Mercedes W163..ML320.350.430.500..722 6 .also Chrysler ,transmission fluid replacement
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2018
- Mercedes W163..ML320.350.430.500..722 6 transmission fluid replacement. This also applies to Chrysler vehicles using the Mercedes NAG 1 transmission
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Cheers Fupabox, changed out the fluid in my 100k mile ML 270 CDI today. Could have been the original fluid although it was a yellow / black colour definately the original filter and gasket though. It took about 3.75 litres to replace what I emptied out. Car runs a lot smoother, had been having issues with torque converter slipping when accelerating in 4/5 gears. it's not perfect but a huge improvement. Thanks for your guide, it certainly gave me the motivation to get the job done. All the best, Mark.
The drain and measure method works every time and I’ve been using that method for years and never had a problem when refilling the transmission.
Love your videos. And attitude! Thanks. Aloha
I am so happy you made this video, I have been trying to decide if i should do a fluid change. Everybody keeps giving me mixed answers, Yes its a good idea or no it will make the transmission start slipping. I think they assume when i say change fluid they seem to think i want to flush the system but i want to do it the same way you did it. Just drain the pan & replace what came out with a new filter.
Just did mine your video helped me out a lot! Thank you
Hi fupabox, you have to watch for your transmission now, I changed oil & filter on a 98 E320 with 180k km that had original fluid in it and in 3 days had the filter plugged, So if you hear a whistling sound don't panic just drop the pan and change the filter. I had to do it 3 times until the transmission oil got cleared from all the crap in it, first time when it happened took the valve body apart, but didn't find anything in it, i guess the filter does what it supposed to do.
Also watch for RPM fluctuation, i still didn't figure out what it was, i had the rpm going up and down +/-100 rpm on low throttle (i suspected the throttle body or the TC lock-up clutch), but eventually it cured itself.
Looks like new fluid washed all the deposits in the TC and around the transmission case.
Good luck with this car.
thanks for the heads up
Thanks for the awesome advice. Just pointed me in a good direction as to what might be making the noise in my moms car, not a merc but the transmission makes a whistling/ high pitch whine when under a bit of load.
More of a problem if the fluid looks very dirty and hasn't ever been changed. youre just mixing really thin (new) fluid with thick cruddy (old) oil, which is a bad idea and can cause your transmission to slip
MaxLife is a wonderful ATF, I use it in everything. The 722.4 actually seems to like it as well. But you'll see people debate it's "specification" for 722.6s on forums until the cows come home. It works very well in the 722.6. At least Mercedes still gave you a dipstick tube, with the newer cars (from any manufacturer) the lab coats, IR thermometers, bubble levels, etc come into play.
yeah people debate it for sure .. A Benz specialist I completely trust , says it is what he uses ..so that's good enough for me . The whole temperature/fluid volume difference is why I decided to do it this way . If the new and old fluids are the same temp, and as long as the level was good after a long drive the night before..then the only thing needed is to measure .. worked perfectly..no thermometer lol .No labcoat either :)
This was perfect thanks ✨
You’re welcome 😊
Thank you.i learned something.
Glad it was helpful!
i have a 1998 ml320 bought it as a project for my son and i for his first car your videos have been more than helpful when working on this truck thank you for your time and efforts when i first got the truck i did this procedure and changed the fluid filter and gasket. my transmission fluid is still very dark again after less than two thousand miles im not experiencing any shift problems my question is how do you like the valvoline maxlife for your ml any issues and should i do a drain and fill a few more times until the fluid looks normal or should i leave it be and do you think i need to change out the filter again
Just did this job today, encountered the same issue with the drain bolt being stripped and torqued to an absurd amount. Believe it or not, I managed to break it loose using a cheap Black and Decker screw extractor set, #5 bit. Totally didn't expect it to work but it was between that and dropping the pan full of fluid, new bolt in and all good now.
excellent... dropping the pan with the fluid in sux.
Hey there FB. Gettin any decent weather yet? Anyway I want to change the oil seal on the final drive(differential) on the 97 C230. The manual says it is too complex and requires it to be taken apart but from what I can see u take off the flex plate mark and unscrew the main diff nut then pry out the seal and replace it. Being extremely careful to put the nut back where it was. Then Advance site says that the diff flange must be replaced new bolts ect. I replaced the front crankshaft seal no problem there so is there a big deal or is it easier than shown to be? Maybe time for new flex plates anyway TY
I have a 2004 ML320 so basically when adding Transmission fluid just fill fluid in the tube in back of engine? I was thinking you had to pump transmission fluid underneath into pan but I like the fact just pour transmission fluid down the tube in the engine. 😊
When changing transmission fluid on this model you should also change out the 13 pin adapter.
Spooky, I'm about to for this to my C320 lol
Good vid.... Next time replace the drain bolt :) and didnt know u were in Ontario ... Hehe
yeah, I figured I'd order one and do another fluid swap..the old fluid kinda brown, and I just found my pan magnet on my workbench...DOH ! ..lol. So once the new bolt comes .it's off again .
Nice video. The mercedes w124 aut needs to flush the torque converter...
Dear fupabox thanks for all your video. I have many code with my 1998 ml320 w163: abs codes c1100 lf wheel speed sensor, c1410 high pressure return pump, c1010 and c1012 voltage supply circuit 87 high\low, c1314 voltage supply solenoid valves. do you know if I can fix this codes? Thanks again.
sorry for my poor English. alex
You looked like me under my car lol I have a 2000 ML320 and the gasket is leaking. The last time I did this I paid $18.00 a qt for transmission fluid .... What kind of fluid will work? ANYONE! I'm also concerned if I mix synthetic with what is in there now. Will this cause problems? Tks!
Hello
I have a car Mercedes CLK320.
Model 1999
I want to know where the fuel buoy is in the tank
Ty
Question. Just a regular old oil change on our ml430 tonight. The oil filter holder thing broke into 2 pieces, well actually 3 the cap is separated too, the bottom shaft part I just left in there for now and changed the filter and other o rings and put it back, good to drive for a bit until I can replace the whole assembly?
honestly not sure on that one ..it may not be doing much filtering but there will be new oil in the engine. I would be worried about a piece separating and blocking the oil draindown to the sump
fupabox I'm just gonna send it and hope for the best. I will replace it very, very soon, but it made a clean break in 2
Hi Fupa ! Saludos desde Argentina ! Thank you as always for the content and help ! Im gonna do this on my 722.6(c280 w202 m112). So right now i discovered the atf is low by checking it with an DIY oil dipstick. If i emty the pan, the filter and let it drain just like you did. It would be right saying that if i put the same amount of atf that you put in the transmission gonna work for me? Lets say i take out 3,2Lts.. shuold i go right to 3,8Lts(you put 4Lts) and start using the car to messure at right temperature? Im gonna have to use Valvoline MaxFife for this trans. Hope the mixing of this with wathever my trans atf have inside dont fuck it up jajaa You are like a mercedes heaven beautiful gift. Thanks a lot.
It's best to measure the amount that comes out .. It can be different depending on the temperature outside. Just make sure the new and old fluid are the same temperature, and you will be fine . After replacing the same amount that came out , drive 10 minutes and check level. Likely need to add a tiny bit. I've done it this way for the last 2 years , and it's always needed a bit more added once measured after the warm up. Odd
If I remember correctly I had to buy a transmission dipstick for my 07 Dodge Charger
Hey there must be colder than it is here now! Heres a question....if you had a 97 C230 Merc with 201k and a possible heater core leak which product would you use to see if you could stop it without tearing the dash out ect. LOL
blue devil head gasket and cooling system sealer.
PS: The Torx screws for the oil pan is a T30.
Good afternoon brother. I'm so happy you made this video. I did not know I could use the Valvoline Max life. Is it the same for the 2002 ml320? It's a coincidence that I was just looking into buying the febi trans fluid. Also I was thinking, maybe to try and get that bolt off for next time you can buy a very cheap torx socket and JB weld it to the bolt and try to take it off that way. Thanks again brother.
Yup Maxlife fine for the 2002 ml ..I bet the jb weld would work..good idea :)
fupabox no problem :) it just came to me.
fupabox I heard there is an additive that can be added to the trans fluid on the ml is that a good idea? I guess it suppose to keep the trans running cooler.
Yeah, I'd expected you'd use a screw extractor so that you'd have a easier and cleaner job next time.
But the pan removal is also a solution.
fupabox awesome thanks. That's why I ask you, you are the man :)
some people told me to not change the transmission fluid on my 2001 ml320.
it has 220miles on it and i guess that counts as high millage car? as far as i know no one changed the gear oil on this car yet.
it's been a few months that i started to notice some shfting problems from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5.
i added 1.1qt gear fluid few days ago but didn't really had any impact. please give me some advice
It's a tough call .as to whether changing at that mileage is a good or bad idea . I wouldn't do a flush , but a drain ,filter and refill I doubt would hurt.
@@fupabox thanks for the fast reply man..
i was kinda thinking the same thing, to just change the filter and maybe only 4.5qt oil
I just want to drain and change the transmission filter on my w163 ML320, but kinda lost for the parts in my local store here. Is 722.6 filter and that gasket fit all from w203, w210,w211 etc that have 722.6? Or there's slight difference that won't fit in my w163?
all the same . In a pinch you can get the parts from any chrysler dealer as well ..they used the NAG 1 tranny in a ton of vehicles
@@fupabox aah thank youu !! Now I'm sure i can get that filter
What's the deal with the same same fluid what difference does it make ?
fupabox, I saw a short vid on removal of the long upper dash wood on a w202. I have a '95 C220 and just replaced the engine harness, so I guess I'm married to It now, ha. I cant find the short or partial you did on the that piece. Do remember what the video was or a date. you've done a lot f them, help again please.
i haven't done a vid on the upper dash wood strip, but I can tell you its held on with screws from under the dash .. You remove by popping the right passenger side end (3-4 inches from the end ) out toward you about 1/2 inch or so .don't pull too hard... use a plastic trim tool or popsicle stick to wedge the end out ..there is a toothed stud that pops into a hole at that right end .. .. then slide the whole strip towards the right and it should come out straight back towards you
Hi. I have a 2000model ml320 and want to change the transmission oil. How many liters oil i need to put? Someone says 6 Someone 7 Someone 5?
If you do it as shown in the video , you just drain the fluid ...measure the amount drained ,and put the same amount back in .. No more than 5 litres since a few will remain in the torque converter
Colonel Box why Mercedes does not recommend flushing the torque converter oil as well?
I was told by a dealer mechanic that it was unnecessary as long as you changed the fluid once in awhile ,you would be getting 70% new fluid every time . In a transmission designed to be filled for life , the 60-70% replacement was more than adequate .
how many newtons?
I have a 1998 Mercedes Benz ML320 it cranks up stays on for about 3 seconds and turns off can you tell me what's wrong with my Mercedes Benz
Sounds like the Key isn't being recognized by the computer any longer . You can give this a try .
Key out of ignition , remove negative ,then positive battery cables (in that order ) then take the 2 disconnected cables and hold the ends touching each other for 1 minute ( be sure not to touch the battery posts with the metal cable ends while doing this )
After the one minute hook up the positive cable only to the battery ...insert the key into the ignition with out turning it . just insert it and close all doors (make sure theyre unlocked so you can get back in ) then hook up the negative cable to the battery. The car should recognize the key now . Fingers crossed . Let me know if it works
Dear fupabox, love your videos. 68yr old lady from nz. Can you help? I want to renter the car radio code (which I have). But ages ago my dog ate all the radio station buttons along the bottom. I'm having difficulty entering the numbers! Pencil won't work. And .. what buttons do I push afterwards if I get to enter the code anyway. :-) 1997 Mercedes 200. Becker radio. Thanks! Sue
Susanne M.E. Sullivan
Hi .. the button with the cover removed should have some slits at the bottom edge that you can push into with a paperclip. when you turn the car on and press the power button on the radio "code " will appear on the screen .. enter the numbers with the paperclip.. as you press them the # you pused will appear on screen ..when all #s entered and showing on screen press the scan "sc" button
fupabox ok Thanks! I'll try. The button is a round thing rather than slit. I tried to put a photo in this reply but it won't let me copy from clipboard. Get back to u soon.THANKS! I wonder what time it is where you are. It's nearly 1pm Easter Monday in New Zealand.
Susanne M.E. Sullivan
Yes that's correct.. depending on who made the radio it is either a slit or a round hole..Alpine I think made the other..(looked exactly the same outside , but slightly different inside ) Happy Easter.. 9pm Easter Sunday here in Eastern Canada
fupabox ah You're Canadian!
I'll have a go. Found a paperclip at last. 😊🐇🐣
Hi fupabox. No luck. A couremix1ple of times got the first number in. But that was with a pencil and it didnt 'take' the other numbers. I took the front part out and cleaned the circuit board etc gently. Cleaned the 10 button holes etc w alcohol stuff. Paperclips or small screwdrivers etc. Nothing works. :-( i might have to take the whole radio out, remove the button on little used feature like bass/treble and use that. What do you think? I havent got the right tool to take radio out but i guess i could buy one at superauto or somewhere. Thanks for your help. Hope youve got a good life over there. Your vids are great.
This is why I hate torx screws and bolts.
Por favor el video en castellano
What kind of atf do you use?
shell 134 or valvoline maxlife . both compatible with the NAG 1 transmission
drain bolt is actually a 5mm allen not torque
some are torx some allen head . Depends on whether someone has replaced the drain bolt with an aftermarket . I've seen both . This one was stripped out if I recall
Real life lol
Mercedes indeed insist on flushing the transmission. Changing the way this video instructs may f'up the electric plate when refill flushes the dirt from turbine and drops in on top of it. Good luck, though!
No dealer or Benz specialist I have consulted recommends a flush .. they all say drain and fill
Good day , Awful sound in the cabin, please could you tell me it is a gearbox or it is convertor or something else? it happens when I press the gas pedal, the sound is heard when the RPM reaches 2000 and above, it happens in motion and when the car is standing, the sound is not sure but it seems come from selector zone, the gearbox switch gears normally, no errors , level oil is ok, please tell me what could be? car is Mercedes w203 C200CDI year2007, automatic gearbox 722.6
Thank you.
link with sound: ua-cam.com/video/V-yFA8dDvg4/v-deo.html
unfortunately it could be a lot of things. engine mounts ,transmission mounts , driveshaft hanger bearing , loose exhaust manifold or broken exhaust hanger . Plus many other things are possible.
@@fupabox thank you for your reply.
Your video footage hurts the eyes, might help if you turn your phone on its side makes for way better video content, It is only a suggestion mate.
Do you think you repeated yourself enough times? I can understand repeating yourself once, Once. But not 3-4-5 times. Good video, just work on your speaking.
Coolant looks wrong colour to me..