How To Troubleshoot a Mower That Stopped Running,
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2021
- the owner changed a drive belt then it ran for 20 feet then died, he then brought it to a local small engine shop. they tried for 3 weeks and now its my turn, lets try and figure what happened to this small garden tractor,
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Hey Mustie thanks for all you do - I have learned so much by watching your channel. I've made close to $20,000 in the last three years flipping lawn equipment and when I get stuck on an issue there is almost always a video you have done that has covered it. I also appreciate that your channel is so simple. No music, no intro/outro, no yelling and over excited tone. Just me and you in the garage.
thank you sir
Thanks mustie 1 for the Wednesday video! allways enjoy and learn alot from you !
I totally concur, I am so tired of intro/outros, people telling me to sub and thumbs, and ring that bell. It reminds me of canned laughter and the applause lights on, like it had a control switch, on stupid TV shows. And some of those UA-cam celebs with millions of views are more like infomercials like flex seal. Teryl, Donnyboy, the motor chick, the beer buy, and other small motor geeks are kewl, but Derick rules.
@@umajunkcollector that's hilarious if you put captions on it says stuff exactly like that. Like applause when he's cranking engine and all kinds of weird things he's not saying it's very strange.
@@blindmelonlemonjello - The best captioning I enjoy is when an engine is running the caption says [music playing].
i ended up at the, "ER" I wasn't prepared for another "Mustie 1" episode so soon. Doc says, I'm having too much anxiety due to all the trouble-shooting that was included in this mid-week brain cell burn out...I told him, this is how i wanna die, too many back-back "Mustie 1" adventures, txs for sharing
You remind me of the best mechanic I ever knew. He had power plant and airframe licenses for the US and the UK (while in the Air Force). I was in his auto repair shop and he fixed a car by replacing a bad relay. He had the car finished and then he started cutting the bad relay apart. I asked him why he was doing that. His reply was he wanted to see if the relay went bad or if something external cooked the relay. He wanted to be sure he fixed the issue, not a symptom of another problem
My hat's off to you sir. I have watched so many videos on repairs, NONE come close to yours. You explain everything so we and your patience and persistence, WOW. You are up there on the top for me.
Never apologize for troubleshooting without a manual! It’s a lost art and we diehard fans love you doing it.
It's nice knowing exactly what wire does what and how each system works...but it's not realistic unless you work on the same exact thing every day. I try to learn from him, just have to know the BASICS and the different systems the machines have is invaluable to diagnosing lol. Classic Mustie fix.
New drivebelt had the wrong voltage rating.
Say it ain’t so! I think you sir just made everyone’s week! So much to learn in this video thanks to you.
I seen it pop up on my phone and almost didnt make it outside to get my garbage took to the street...LOL
@@SuperFastmover🤣🤣🤣
*Doubletake* "Hang on, it's not Sunday already"!
DAMN Spoiler alert... lol jk
@@jacksomb1 thought the week flew by and missed the weekend lol
Love this video, not often you run across someone as knowledgeable as you are that still gets stumped and shows every frustrating minute of the process of going thru the system from one end to the other.
Everyone else: It's a lost cause! To the landfill!
Mustie1: hold my beer
I love your videos, and how awesome you are as a person for sharing your knowledge with us. I remember watching your videos for the first time and learning how to strip and clean/diagnose a carb. A blizzard took out power some time later and I was able to get 2 neighbors generators running purely from what I learned from you. So, thank you!
It's projects like this that give the most satisfaction once completed.
The backyard Bandit puts the service centre to shame.
Ehhh usally the other way around...
The service channel charges by the hour, there comes a point it's not economically viable to do it there
@@samuraidriver4x4 I completely understand you there, I recently repaired a chainsaw which the service centre said was beyond economical repair, why? Because it took 4 hours disassembling and re assembling the saw to replace a £5 part.
@@Herbybandit I try to buy equipment for cheap, work on it for 4 hours and flip it for let's say 150 bucks profit.
To bad there are no yard sales and free piles where I live
Still plenty of stuff on the online marketplaces for cheap although people think stuff is more expensive then its worth
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For us amatoors, your troubleshooting really teaches us a lot. When there's a new Mustie vid, class is in session. Thank you!!
@@garymallard4699 I enjoy the methodology. I don't understand all those safety features yet. What mistakes were made, so I can learn. Thank you
@@garymallard4699 he likes to figure it out on his own before he looks it up.hes like me lol
@@garymallard4699 he mentioned in the video he does it this way to better the troubleshooting skills. Guess you missed that.
@@garymallard4699 if you don’t like it, why watch?
@@garymallard4699 bud I follow instructions and everything geez lmao
Mr. Mustie. Thank you. You are definitely one of the calmest, most competent people in America. That you share both your knowledge and your process for fixing things makes you infectious in the most positive of ways. You're helping a lot of people not just in fixing motors and old machinery, but in HOW to think about solving problems.
You, sir, are a national treasure.
Wow, thank you
Older I get, the more patient I am and spend more time investigating issues, tracing wiring and finding problems instead of throwing cheap parts at things. Nice to see you showing people that it doesn’t take fancy tools or all the skill in the world, just patience
Blimey! Mid week video from mustie!!
Glad you are back on top form! 🇬🇧
You're ability to figure out how things work and the amount of background knowledge that makes it possible is a national treasure sir. :) am i exaggerating? Consider the view count and spread possibility of his skills.
The ability to fault find is the mark of a good technician. A lot of repair shops don't like it because it can be time consuming as you found out and they can't charge for that, much more profitable to fix known/obvious faults. Many thanks for the upload.
Love every show you make! You make fixing stuff fun!! Love your eagerness to dive in and show us what is really going on with every repair ! You are a true gift to UA-cam and us normal every day folks! Thanks DUDE!!!! Mustie Rocks !!!!! I am addicted to your shows Thanks again bud!
A midweek Mustie video is always appreciated.
I googled "Handy" and that lift is definitely not what came up lol. Great vid!
Don't forget to clear your browser history 😉
Handy industry
"Handy Lift" should do it.
This was really well done. There's really nothing worse that trying to troubleshoot a problem after someone else has been messing around and screwing things up.
Most of that was logic, but the really impressive part, that I think many of us would not have figured out, where those 2 switches that were flipped positions.
THAT seems to have been the main issue (or one of).
Great video and thanks for inviting us along for the ride. here's a lot to be said for 'Going back to first-principles' when establishing a knowledge-base. I really enjoy the thought process, and sometimes find myself shouting out where I would go next! LOL
In this episode, Mustie1, now the purveyor of mid-week madness, solves the quintessential riddle of the riding lawnmower by effortlessly evoking electrons from recalcitrant relays to score a successful start to win again. Well done!
Many of us would simply bypass all that safety stuff, and run directly to essential circuits. I suspected the starter relay at first, easy to check. But all that safety ctap can drive you nuts, just chuck it, and make it like the 50s. What's next, OBD2 computer controlled? I van see it now, Moustie1 connecting his OBD2 screen scanner to a connector under the steering wheel to check a garden tractor for errors? With all this climate change bullcrap, they'll be pushing ElecTraks like GE made. Will this electric tractor start?
@@umajunkcollector as a mechanic, he can't legally bypass any safety equipment, except for testing purposes.
@@umajunkcollector "With all this climate change bullcrap". Go say that to Californians... They'll appreciate it ! 🤣🤣🤣
@@umajunkcollector Funny you should mention the ElecTrak. I just acquired one of those - an E15. It is in pretty rough shape but being an electronics engineer of a very practical sort I expect I can get it going again. The ElecTraks actually had quite a few interlocks, relays and circuit boards full of electronics so indeed, you could have a "failure to start" due to safety system issues.
Over the last few years I have introduced maybe a dozen or so of my friends to your channel.
Your masterclass in diagnostics in this video is one of the main reasons for that.
Makes me wish I had a garage too.
Man, this was gold! Thanks for the in-depth look at the mower. It's the times we get our asses handed to us, on cases like this, where we learn and grow by leaps and bounds. Only if you can avoid the urge to give up.
I love watching your shows, brings me back to my days with my father working on his garage sale and flea market finds. Thank you for all you do. Take care and may God bless you. You are much calmer than I am when working on cars and broken equipment, thank you for your good example!
This video makes me thankful that both of my tractor’s are from the early 1950’s.
Good, thorough, deductive diagnostics! Always fun to watch. Frustrated ME at one point so I admire you for getting past it!
Fascinating troubleshooting and knowledge of the on-board safety systems. A brilliantly enjoyable 'teardown and fix' adventure. Thanks for filming your excellent work and posting it on UA-cam. All the best to you!
Musty, thanks for allowing those of us with the will and knowledge to do repairs vicariously through you.
In my case, age and infirmaries has diminished my activities.
So thanks for what you do for us.
Some folks just don’t get why is costs what it does to have repairs done.
Keep tinkering on video!
It still puzzles me as to why people feel they have to "Dislike" a video! What is not to like? A great channel and an interesting gentleman! Keep it up Mustie1!!
People dislike videos hoping to train the algorithm so it does not recommend content to them like that. Then there's people that just don't like content creators for whatever reason. HTH
It was all the people who worked on it and couldn't figure out the problem(s).
They call em assholes. 😆
youtube has fixxed it for you, now no channels get dislikes and everybodys a winner...every video is great all hail the masters they know best
@@AndrewBrowner you should have seen what they all did on Jan 6th for the live streams. Comments and chat all disabled. Let's go Brandon!
A Bonus with a midweek Mustie!! That was an interesting Wednesday. Greetings from Cheshire Uk
I love how this content is SO fun to watch even if you're not into fixing things.
That was a great mystery we all diagnosed along with you. Wiring is always an elusive emeny! Cheers 🇨🇦
With so many "safety" switches, one can safely stay on the couch and avoid mowing the grass. ; )
I’m all for mower safeties but geez that thing was over complicated. Two switches cancelling each other out plus a third one up top, relays, a bulb that has to work for the circuit to complete?!?! Just wow.
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@@artemartem1134 All those safety devices remind me of the pleasure that you can get from bureaucracy.
@@markschattefor6997 Safety switches? Mechanical and electrical bureaucracy and red tape. "Common sense" has died out.
I just loved seeing your thinking process of actually looking at it element per element of the main system.
I love watching these troubleshootin’ videos! I do this stuff day in - day out but it’s so enjoyable watching someone else do it for some reason!
Just watching this one should earn a person 1 college credit toward a degree in engineering.
As it turns out, I’m remotely working with a friend on a headlight wiring issue so your timing was perfect.
I am a retired physician. I love your channel. You amaze me with your problem solving skills. Then you go above and beyond doing an autopsy on that PTO switch! You truly never stop challenging yourself and seek more knowledge.
I inherited a 30 year old JD lawn tractor and after watching you work on so many gas run machines I have learned how to fix a few things myself. So far no electrical problems like this case.
Just think about how much carbon you saved by resurrecting this mower! It is sort of ironic that all the screwed up safety shut offs almost put this in the scrap heap!
Better than any "who dunnit?" I almost hope for trouble with one of my small engines to try all I've learned. Thanks Mustie!!
Love the way you work through things so methodically, an never get flustered and always get the job done,👍👏👏
Very well done - this was fun to watch the process and see you test and eliminate things that might be the issue. You can really see your experience coming through - thanks for sharing!
Great video!! You are the guys that we actually need at the small engine places.....
Absolutely, I hate doing electrical chasing when someone brings something in that needs it.
A special Wednesday with Mustie1 love it! This one was a little tricky!
This was probably the best video you have made so far. A step by step approach to figuring out what and why and why not. What you discovered might not be appropriate for any one else’s issues but that is irrelevant. The process shown here is what is remarkable. Thanks.
Rock star. That is perseverance. Way to go Mustie. Thanks for having us along.
Once again I thank you for your teaching videos. Now when I'm presented with a problem I just ask myself "What would Musti1 do?". Your calm and methodical approach to problem solving has helped me more often than I can tell you. Kind regards, Al
You are the absolute greatest. You have helped me out so many times on equipment I have. Even when going behind some other people,you still prevail. Just went through the same on a free John Deere mower. I think the owner was his own worst enemy! Good health to you and your family.
I appreciate your way of repairing what ever comes your way. My reading and writing are not much and this is how I learn as well hands on and watching others first. Thank you Ted.
I love listening to the Rain Fall outside while you're working on the tractor. Nice day to be inside working in a warm shop
Wow. A really great in depth show !! I love this guy's methods ..well done mustie 👍
Really impressive knowledge of electrical systems and issues. I learn from that but I will never be a natural like you are. That's ok cozz I know I am an assembler person. Really glad you found the issue: making many people happy again. Thanks for this great midweek video! Appreciate it a lot!
Greetings from Jakarta Indonesia 🇮🇩
Started watching your videos over Covid for 6 weeks last year, and I'm back at work and have seen almost all of your videos and certainly watch all new videos. Thank you for your content!
We don't deserve you Mustie. Thanks again for a very informative video. I subscribed years ago when you were at 35K. I have NEVER missed a video.
Damn, the suspense. I knew you’d get it Mustie!
I particularly like how you almost always do an autopsy of machines or component that couldn't be fixed ie the pto switch, thanks for another entertaining educational video
FINALLY, an opponent worthy of challenging Mustie’s expertise ❗️ I enjoyed watching you take on the challenge 👍
In the U.K. I had my lawnmower at six ( some called ) service centres ,none could fix it . A friend said a engineer in north Scotland was the best in the business ( by far) phoned him , but it on the bus parcel service . I phoned the guy three days later and he said “the mowers repaired and but on the bus back” , 4 years on and it’s still going strong . The guys the small tool and mower wizard and I’ve used him to fix a few petrol and electrical tools and it’s a excellent and not expensive service by someone that knows his stuff.
Very interesting to follow your diagnosis. Sure it would have been much faster to trace back the crank wire back to the ignition switch to see where the issue is, but your approach taught us a whole lot more about those tractors and their components.
Fantastic Video!! The more I see you take equipment apart, figure them out, fix, then reassemble the more confident I get when tackling home and vehicle repairs. Save some money as well as the satisfying feeling I get repairing something I never thought I would ever be capable of doing
What a treat, a mid week mustie1 video. I love the troubleshooting video. Great video as always and great hanging out in the garage.
I have had a ropey old week here in the U.K. Absolutely wiped out. Fired up UA-cam for the first time in days and, lo and behold, there’s a midweek Mustie. Like a man finding an oasis in the desert.
Top work. Thank you.
Great video, thanks. On behalf of all the people who are forced at gun point to trace and fix wiring issues your systematic and logical approach is greatly appreciated
Hey Mustie, I've owned my own small engine shop for 5 years now. I really love watching your videos for years now. I've had that exact same mower come in with the same issue and it also turned out to be those wires reversed. Took me 3 hours to figure it out... keep up the great videos... looking forward to the next one... God bless...
Thanks for bringing us along Mustie!
This is my new favorite Mustie1 video. I love the debugging and troubleshooting. Had me at the edge of my seat. Thank You!
Awesome to have midweek Mustie video. Now gonna grab my brew and enjoy this one 👍😁
I know I’ve watched you go through the elimination process many times however it never gets old, I wonder why that is besides the simple fact that I find it fascinating!
Excellent video... Really a great follow of true troubleshooting verses firing the parts cannon at problems. Thank you Mustie!
Thanks for letting us hang around at the shop today...
Whenever I work on anything like this, I use the "WWMD" method! I sometimes cheat a bit, and use a wiring diagram... but I'm no Mustie! Thanks for posting!
Have to say, you are relentless and your determination to get something working, and the detail and lengths you go to, is amazing, hands down fairplay to you, love the video mustie👌👍
I always learn something new from your posting! You’re one of three in UA-cam channels that I follow and motivates me in doing my chores around the house, and with that “THANK YOU”. 🍻
Great journey. Thanks for taking us along.
Outstanding diagnostic video. Putting this one with many others of Mustie1's work in the saved file.
Had the same problem with the PTO switch on my Cub Cadet. New switch was $70. so eliminated the bad switch and wired in a relay and a toggle for the PTO.
These little tractors can give you fits sometimes! Good video. Always good to learn something new. And patience definitely pays! 👍🇺🇸❤️
Simple. Quality. Video. thanks mustie! you are the last of the non advertised, humble, and charming UA-cam tinkerers with nothing to gain but a laugh. I hope we can crack open your shop door and join you in fixin' old junk for years to come.
It's amazing what a nights sleep and the next day can do to the thought process. This was a good one. I work on Wheelhorse tractors all the time and own 7 of them. Most of mine are the older before Toro versions and much easier to work on. I have stayed away from those newer versions for just the reasons you showed in this video. I learned a lot watching this video, you the man and have the patience of a Saint!
I have eleven at the moment, bought for the right price. They have doubled or tripled on ask prices as of late
That Toro is very similar to my 1995 Sears garden tractor. The biggest difference is I have a manual transmission, but I'd bet most of the rest of the parts would interchange.
I have 3 WH
C-120 manual
C-141 auto
And one of those black hoods, automatic
Both automatics have hydraulic deck lift
@@lwilton I've been thinking that there are A LOT more videos generally about people working on old, salvage equipment. It's pretty obvious to me that we're heading quickly into times where human-energy, the kind that goes in to fixing, repairing, salvaging, rebuilding, etc., is of more value than the 'consumer-energy' of buying a new one and throwing out the old one. I welcome this trend!
The description reminds me a bit f the time I worked at Xerox building copy machines at the production line. 5 engineers from 3 different countries were standing at a machine they designed and didn't understand why it failed. As I walked by one engineer asked me if I knew what the issue was. I reached into the machine (pushed a gear pulley in the right spot), walked away and left them wondering what I just did. 😂
Don’t worry about any confusion, I’m just glad to be watching you working on something. Learning some great techniques. The videos are top notch.
I don't have a mower, or even a lawn to mow, and I just watched a guy troubleshoot a mower for almost an hour.
Fascinating.
Mustie is the man. If he can't fix it, nobody can! 👍
Taryl can!!
I learn so much from watching your vids. Thanks, Mustie!
Excellent diagnostic work, I would've looked at a similar tractor that was working and figured it out that way. I applaud your skills, it's a lost art.
Well done. Excellent diagnosis. The double brake interlock feels to be overly complicated.
A lot of connections were loose. Makes me wonder if the original problem was just a loose connection.
Dave.
Either a loose screw in the driver, or the nut behind the wheel. 😀
My theory is flaky PTO switch lead to other making a mes of it. The rest of stuff looks to have been human error trying to find the problem.
Electrical problems are always the hardest to track down. I think in this case, looking up a wiring diagram or the manual would have been helpful to save some time in troubleshooting. Obviously it is useful to understand the troubleshooting process but I'm guessing most people just want to get things running again ASAP. Thanks for the video and love seeing you diagnose small engines
A schemy helps, but doesn't determine failed switches, relays, or bad wiring. Like here, everything ""looked"" OK, but a probe or DMM in experienced skilled hands can really get the job done. Two other guys may have used schematics, but failed to find the fault. First rule to troubleshoot electric problems is to check for good connections and contacts, like fuses, wiring, and switches. But all that safety crap can be tricky, like here.
@ MrBigNoze You obviously either didnt watch the whole vid or pay attention, or both...as in other vids Mustie makes it quite clear using manuals etc takes the troubleshooting out of it, and thats what its all about, thats what makes these vids what they are ...using his own skills to find the problem...use a manual and the vids will be a few mins long and boring..
I believe toro has service manuals available on their website
I never cease to be amazed at the talent and patience of this man.
Great job! Always learning watching you,thanks.
Really enjoying your videos. As someone who repairs things for a living, I always take an interest in how you solve issues. I have one suggestion though; your meter has the ability to put out a chime when you meter out switches. If you hit the DC/AC button until the last symbol beside the button appears on the display, it will activate that feature. I use all the time when I don't have the ability to look at the screen.
Wow, what a treat. A Mustie video on Wednesday and I’m first to comment! Thanks!
I was first, rookie.
@@bontronblock
To comment?
You know it
A man has got to know his limitations and you are the king of pointing out mine. I would have spent an hour getting frustrated and then had a lawn tractor bonfire!
What treat! Thanks for sharing! I so needed a pick me upper today!
Why is this on a yogscast christmas songs playlist? XD
All those safety gizmos make me want to hold onto my Snapper Simplicity for a few more years. The fewer things to go wrong, the better. Unfortunately, if I fall off it the thing will just keep on driving until it hits something.
That's just one more reason why I get so much enjoyment watching your videos... Especially the follow up and tear parts, it sets you apart!!! 😉
Definitely see how a wiring diagram would have helped in this one. I think sometimes showing us one and seeing the benefits of using the diagram would help, but enjoyed the process. Thanks for all you do.
Thanks Mustie for making mid week doldrums bearable till Sunday.Glad to see you back at the top of your game.Much respect from Ray's"that's close enough garage"...🔨
This is a different type of Christmas song. Especially from the Yogscast. I'll take it though
It was definitely a bold choice to go for a 50+ minute long song this year, especially one without an instrumental or much in the way of melody. That being said, I think the Yogscast clearly knew what they wanted to go for and they executed it perfectly. Hats off to you for spreading Christmas cheer once again, Yogscast team!
Much love to you Mustie! Between my grandfather, my father, and other inspirations like yourself, Derek at VGG, JYD, SmallEngine Saloon, and Restored; I would not have automotive/ lawn and farm mechanic hobbies.
I have rebuilt and restored several riders; including my 68' Massey-Ferguson MF10 ( Named Mustie after you ), and my 91' Snapper 1550LX ( Raider ) after my Grandfather's WWII U.S. Army unit.
Always a pleasure to watch you getter done! Ty
Love your troubleshooting abilities, I am pretty good but have learned a lot. Also love your ability to problem solve and come up with viable repair options. Thank you!