How Muslims DISTORT This Bible Verse!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Did you hear the one about the Quran claiming the New Testament actually predicted the arrival of Muhammad? It might sound like a stretch, but it's a belief held by many Muslims. In this video, we dive into the Bible verses that supposedly point to Muhammad in the New Testament particularly in John 16 and show why this argument should not be used by Muslim apologists.
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But the Bible does predict Muhammad. It has declared “beware of false prophets, who come to you in the garments of sheep, yet are, inwardly, ravenous wolves”
Matthew 7:15-20
Edit: how did I comment 2 days ago!?
Edit 2: now it’s saying I commented 3 days ago, which I did, but the video had not come out yet
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Galatians Cap. 1 | NIV-EN
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
@aplicativodabiblia
😂😂😂 You hit the head of the nail spot on!
Literally what Mohammed says.. an angel came from heaven and told him a different gospel preached by the apostles or Christ 😂
How'd you comment 2 days ago
What's funny is that Ibn Ishaq who wrote the oldest biography of Muhammed uses this verse to claim it's Muhammed. Which then would actually prove they referenced the Gospel of John as the Injil. So why appeal to the gospel if it isn't the Injil and the gospel was corrupted? When did the Gospel get corrupted then? They were using this verse to link it to Muhammed after his death? So, whether the Gospels were corrupted before his life, during or after, it still proves that Allah confirmed a corrupted book in the Quran and Muhammed and scholars referenced and appealed to corrupted Gospels. It's clear that this notion that the TEXT was corrupted wasn't a belief back then. It's a newer conspiracy theory out of desperation. Christians are the people of the book. We have to abide by our book. The Quran even says so.
So...Allah basically created Christianity for us and let his words be corrupted and helped create the largest religion in the world instead of Islam during that time?
These people have nothing left to stand on.
You hit the nail on the head
The workaround for them is that some parts were corrupted whilst some parts were uncorrupted.
Therefore the parts which seem to agree with their claims are uncorrupted, whilst the others are corrupted.
Abdul logic. 😂 😂 😂
@@valkyrie3493 they can't escape the circle!⭕⭕
@@valkyrie3493 that's so obviously just moving the goal posts, like it's obvious that they twist the narrative beyond recognition to fit their view.
@@valkyrie3493you can’t just make claims with no evidence. The burden of proof is on them to prove that the gospels were corrupted.
Muslims when giving an example of an alleged prophecy of Mo: "Quote-mine the parts that you can make align with Islam and say the rest that happens to contradict must be fake."
Unfortunately that's also what 90% of discussions between Catholics, Protestants, and Eastern Orthodox devolve into as well.
@@derrickbonsellNo Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodox believe any part of the Bible is false or miscopied or corrupted.
As someone whos living in a country with 85% of the whole population and has close families/friends who are Muslim, your series has been very helpful. Im praying for my country's revival as well as my family and friends. Keep doing God's work! You dont know how much this meant for us 😭🔥
God bless you, stay strong in your faith in Christ.
Muslim critics like Ahmed Deedat, Sheikh Uthman, Paul Williams (Blogging Theology) & Muhammad Hijab: The Gospels are late and anonymous so they're unreliable!
Also those same Muslims: This prophecy in one of these books fits the description of my [false] prophet the best!
"you seeeeee?"
Also, who wrote the Quran... anonymous as well. XD
@@wandering_circles7487technically no. They claim to have a “chain of custody”. Unfortunately for them, that chain leads to a proven judicial charge of plagiarism and theft that at least one of the authors was found guilty of. “Studies in Early Hadith Literature” by M. M. Azami, pg 128 line 82
The biography and hadiths were written 130 - 300 years after Muhammad
Prophet muhhahamd companion wrote it down Abu bakr ordered people to write it down@@wandering_circles7487
The "It's me, ya boi" bit got a hearty chuckle out of me.
✝️ the crusades never ended our weapons are not swords but the internet. We must keep preaching the gospel brothers!
perhaps we should try swords. Worked well for mus lim conquest.
The Word.
You can not make someone a Christian using a Sword. @@guillermoelnino
@@A-man-in-the-box our sword is the word of God
Preach, brother!
The prophet muhammed was predicted in Maatthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves."
@@cheeseinhaler14 Muhammad wasn't a prophet
@@user-xc2gg1oj1cOh, Muslims are getting delulu then. They consider him a prophet ffs.
The Quran tells Muslims that Islam is only true if Mohamad is in the Injeel, and the Muslims have no choice but to go find him, so they go to John, thereby showing to everyone that John is the Injeel, and therefore Quran is false.
It's an eternal dilemma for them. 😂 😂 😂
It is true that the Bible talks about the coming of Mo, is right there where it's says that will come false prophets that will preach other gospels and we shouldn't listen to them because they are the antichrist.
Prophet muhhahamd is not in the injeel 😂😂😂
@@Faithexplorer4376 Correct 👍 which means Quran is wrong 😂
@@timd3895 the Qur'an never states Muhammad is in the injeel 😂😂😂
We have very very early sources about Christians worshipping Jesus. When was the gospel corrupted? It seems like it was corrupted the second it came out to them
Can you explain more?
@@MacacoMoninheiro The gospel manuscripts before Islam already declared Jesus' divinity, people worshipping him, his message and purpose. The manuscript's during Muhammed's life said the same thing. The manuscripts after his life said the same thing. The point is, "When did they get corrupted?"
Their excuse is that the Gospels aren't the injil. Which they can't prove because they can't produce the Injil they claim is lost. Christians are the people of the book. We have to abide by our book. The Quran even says so. They have no argument to get out of this. The Quran confirms the Gospels we have. Which means if they're corrupted, Allah confirmed corrupted books and Allah basically created Christianity for us to follow corrupted scripture and create the largest religion in the world. (Torah/Gospel)
@@ThePrimusCrusaderTo make it worse for them, it also says that Allah strengthened the true followers to make them achieve victory. And among the “victors” was Paul, who they claim “created” Christianity.
@@ThePrimusCrusaderto add a small note to your response, the verses that affirm Christians to look to our Gospel also refers to it in the PRESENT tense, not past or future, implying that the Gospel was still around in the false prophet’s time. And since as you so accurately pointed out there is no proof of an “original”, the valid assumption is that it refers to the ones we have today. This is furthered by the fact that the false prophet couldn’t read and fact-check his own claims to make sure he wasn’t contradicting himself.
@@MacacoMoninheiro Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus from the first century writes in Antiquities 18:3:3
Roman historian Tacitus who lived from the first century to very early second (56 AD to 120 AD) writes about the crucifixion in Annals book 15 chapter 44.
Pliny the Younger, a Roman governor from Asia Minor claims that Jesus was worshipped as God, being from the first century to early second as well in the 10th book and 96th letter from Epistulae.
Pagan author Lucian of Samosata says Christians worship Jesus while mocking them in The Passing of Peregrinus.
There is much more and I can pull up the direct quotes, this is just a taste.
The fact that I s l a m clearly doesn't have a clue who the Holy Spirit is, is enough to expose it as f a k e...
I think I'll take the word of somebody who lived a perfect life over the one who married a 9 year old.
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Who’s the Muslim that pissed off Testify? 😭😭 Dropping 4 absolute gem videos destroying Islamic arguments. Keep it up, I love the content! 👏🙏🏽✝️
And I refuted all the claims on all of them
@@Faithexplorer4376please. Your mewling has done nothing. Your refutes all have fallen flat
@@Faithexplorer4376 debate christian prince bro just call him on his youtube channel and debate bro dont run away bro
@Faithexplorer4376 They are deaf to your word, you will find no listeners here. Do not waste your breath, our time on the world is better spent otherwise.
@@danielromani2964 sure mate they haven't even come back with a refutation also this guy showed me hilali khan recitation and I proved it's not good and no tafisr says it only his there's not response from him mate the only thing that is only happening is just your likes
Not Joseph Smith copying Muhammad's homework 😂
I keep saying that same thing! Joseph smith saw it worked for Muhammad and was like “let’s do the same thing but even crazier”
You should do a Mormon series next
I'm considering it. Might be later on but I'd love to do one
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@@TestifyApologetics do a series on the Jews as well, their probably the closest faith to ours
@@TestifyApologetics I think that there too many of those videos. Try Hinduism & Sikhism. I could use help there.
@@aihebhoriahelen895
Brother, Christianity is literally the fulfillment of Judaism. Although modern Judaism (Rabbinic Judaism) is now very much far fetched from the ones Israelites adhere to.
When i read the Quran, it had a note with the parakletos = periklutos argument in it. It had me rolling, most entertaining part of that boring book.
And little side note, it is a very similar argument to the "mahmad (precious or tresure or something like that in Hebrew) sound like Mohamed, therefore he is mentioned by name in the Bible" Lol.
I'm mentioned in the Bible by name. I must be True prophet too!
@@timd3895 the argument is terrible, but, my bad, I haven't represented it fairly. They use it in a specifc song od Song of Songs that "describe Mohamed". Ispiring philosophy has a live where he talks about this with David Wood and a scholar of Hebrew if you want to know more.
@@DC-zz7fm I know I'm being sarcastic lol they use the same song that they mock as "porn" but then they say it's about Mohamad 😂
@@timd3895Well, he *was* a porn star, so they could be on to something. 😂 😂 😂
@@DC-zz7fm I saw the Hussein vs Dr. Michael Brown debate. Mohamad got demolished 🏗️
This is a classic verse. Just show them the comforter will glorify who? And comforter will dwell in all of us?
thAt iS coRrUpteD
Very little in Islam is true. The more you know, the less you are inclined to seek Islam. Certainly not a faith built upon facts and truth.
This is so true, as it exactly what happened to me. The more I try to learn about it the more I realise how stupid and illogical it is.
Real fact 🎉
Between you and Cliffe Knechtle, I’m learning a lot. Keep the videos coming
The disciples also did not live 550 more years to see Muhammad, so he could not have told them anything.
There not on about the disciples living 500 years ago in isa time Muslim means submit to god
@@Faithexplorer4376 This doesn't seem to solve the problem of the disciples of Jesus not meeting Muhammad as promised by Jesus. He surely was talking to them, not to Arabs from the 6th or 7th century.
@@andrew_ortega89 it's not promised by jesus
@@Faithexplorer4376 Of course it is not, if we see it was said about Holy Spirit. However, if we assume that it was said about Muhammad and not the Spirit, then we have the problem I'm talking about.
Youre enjoying all the fighting lol
Islam is false. Their scripture has been corrupted 😮😂
At least the different Bible editions have only grammatical and synonym changes. The core message is the same. The Quran editions change entire sentences and context. It’s funny to see the hypocrisy when they claim the Gospels were corrupted. 😂
@@danielromani2964 That's your fantasy.
How do you explain the fact that we can get the year of conquest of eastern rome (the only part that was left) by muslims from daniel 7 with relatively low assumptions (compared to the precise result)?
In daniel 7, it mentions that the fourth beast (rome since it came after babylon, medopersia and macedonain greece) had ten horns when the little one came. Three horns earlier to the little one fell before it. Either it means there would have been 13 but because of 3 falling before the little one, there were 10 when the little one came. Or it means there were 10 including the fallen. In any case, the candidates are domitian (11th roman emperor) and hadrian (14th). Another indication for hadrian as opposed to domitian is he seems to be an antitype of little horn of the 3rd empire (antichous iv) as both went against the Most High by putting abomination in His holy ground.
It also says from the little one, the holy people would be at his hand (rome's control) for time, times and half time until the dominion goes to the hand of saints of the Most High. In daniel 12, we see the same phrase time, times and half time (whether it is a related prophecy or different I don't know but I am only concerned about the meaning of this unit of time in danielic angelic language) used for either 1290 days (i.e. years in danielic biblical language) or 1335. But the apparent meaning is 1335 since daniel wanted to know the end and angel told blessed are those who wait for that long with 1290 being a milestone of some sort.
I recently got introduced to your channel and cliffe who relate bible to history
All this time I believed the message and righteousness in the bible was enough to convert an atheist but the videos you both post really opened my eyes and how loving God is
Like the bible has such in depth details
I never thought of before which can put every argument of the devil to the grave
Glad to have people like you to bring back the faith of people who were shook by the devil's arguments and questions
Helping out people who want evidence to believe
Can you please pretty please do a video on how there are no contradictions in the Bible? ❤✝️☦️
Muhammad is clearly predicted by St. Paul in Galatians I 8... Let him be Anathema
the bible does predict muhammad.
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
the greek word for desert in verse 26 means this according to the strongs concordance: the desert, to the east and south of Palestine;
what's to the east and south of palestine? mekka?
I remember when Jesus rise from the dead, the elders and priests told the guards and a lot of people to spread makeup stories to disprove Jesus' rising (Matt28:11-15). I believe when Islam said Jesus didn't die, they actually believed this gossip and without fact checking, they just write the gossip into the Qur'an lmao. But I can't be true tho, they said Qur'an was given to Mohammad by the angels themselves 😮😮😮 so this too is predicted by the Bible 😂
@@meedesu999read the verse they told them to tell them that they are jesus disciples and then came during the night and stole him away 😂😂
Ya I read it that they know that Jesus wasn’t in the tomb. They told the soldiers to lie to the people and the governor say face. So you’re saying that lies spread through the Jews telling them about Muhammad?
@@user-on9ie2lm1y read what meedesu said fool he or she said. To make up stories but the verse is on about them talking about Jesus tomb making stories there not what he's in about
There is a scholarly paper that describes the history of this argument. UA-cam would eat a link but the title of the paper is :
The History of the Idea of a Literal Connection between the Words " Ahmad " and " Paraclete " in the Qur'an and the Gospel of John
So you can search for it.
Short version : The idea that the gospel was changed is actually a 19th century rationalization.
The original reason was that the people who originally started the rumor couldn't read Greek, but they could read Aramaic (which is very similar to Arabic). Some Aramaic versions left it untranslated, causing the Muslims to assume it must have had some secret meaning. Some other translations gave an Aramaic translation, which happens to sound vaguely like Mohammed. They put it together and concluded that the secret meaning was actually Mohammed all along. No corruption of Greek required - just ignorance and confirmation bias.
Muslims are so into mysticism aren't they?
Thanks, ill have to look it ul! Do you know of any papers on when the Muslim accusations of biblical corruption began?
It is clear Jesus Christ is God and the only way to Salvation. God bless.
It's weird because when they find something in the bible that points towards Islam they always talk about it but when we have another verse showing that Jesus was God they say "nO tHaTs cOrRuPtEd"
To be fair John did prophesy Muhammed (as well as many other prophets and teachers) but it was in a different book. 1 John 4 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God"
Muhammed was deceived (according to his own words) by a spirit not of God (so a demon most likely) that Jesus Christ was not of God but just a prophet and teacher, and therefore all of Islam was foretold and warned about. Galatians 1:8 also predicted many false religions like Islam would come when he again warns people like Muhammed to not be deceived by demons saying that if even an angel (as Muhammed claimed visited him) came and spoke any other gospel than to let them be accursed.
There is one prophecy of Muhammed in the Bible I could attest. Muhammed was said to be of Ishmael according to Islamic tradition. Let's see what the Bible foretells:
"The angel of YHWH proceeded: “Behold, you have conceived and will bear a son. And you shall name him *Ishmael* , for YHWH has heard your cry of affliction. He will be *a wild donkey of a man* , and his hand will be *against everyone* , and everyone’s hand against him; he will live in *hostility toward all his [Abrahamic] brothers* ” - Genesis 16:11-12
Might not be what kind of prophecy one wants to hear, but hey there you go, descendant of Ishmael... a wild donkey of man who fights the other descendants of Abraham (Jews and Christians).
I like your videos a lot and obviously like the polemics/apologetics against Islam, but I highly recommend you also just keep on doing Gospel apologetics content! There seem to be so, so many anti Islam channels recently (which again, it's fine), but it was actually your videos about the reliability of the Gospels that made me return to the faith. Praise God!
This is just a series. I'm doing a series on authorship and then contradictions soon. There's no way this channel is going to be taken over to responding to Islam. I also plan on responding to Mormonism and other heretical groups at some point, but again, those would only be short series.
@@TestifyApologetics are you Catholic?
@@TestifyApologetics I second the above comment. Your content on Islam is good, but it was your content celebrating scripture and highlighting history that drew me to your channel. Also looking forward to the videos discussing heresies because they don't get properly examined a lot.
@@StyliansPerpsective nothing wrong with anti Islam when many MUSLIM themselves show anti Christian tendencies, like calling Salafis following "tritauhid"
@@yohanneslong1970 You must be referring to the Sunni, then. The same madzhab known for it's ummah calling Muslims from other madzhab like Sufi, Syiah, etc as "not real Muslims."
The context doesn’t make sense for the comforter to be a person, especially for it to refer to a person who live over 5 centuries away from the events in question. Unlike Arabic, in which indicators which indicate vowel sounds were introduced after the Quran was supposedly written, New Testament Greek uses letters for vowels. Muslims have always been grasping at straws to find their prophet prophesied by Jesus and by the Old Testament prophets.
I respect what your doing spreading truith on subjects people dont like to talk about im definitely subbing
Thank you for creating this video! I hope many Muslims see this video and realize the problems with this argument and become more open to accepting Christ.
Can you do det 18:18? Muslims claim its a prophecy of Muhammad and not Jesus
I might
Just tell them to read verse 15 where it specifies the prophet will be an israelite
@@TestifyApologeticsI noticed there's this comical coincidence where Manichaeans (followers of Mani - some Persian guy from 3rd century who claimed to be "the last and final prophet", way earlier than Muhammad who also claimed to "be the seal of all prophets") attributed the same John 16: 12-14 verse you're talking about here to Mani. They even went far as calling Mani as some kind of incarnation of Holy Spirit or some sort.
@@Frazier16 tell them to continue reading to Deut 34. Same book define what "a prophet like Moses" means.
“And there has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face, none like him for all the signs and the wonders that the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, and for all the mighty power and all the great deeds of terror that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.”
Deuteronomy 34:10-12
He will need to know God face to face, do signs and wonders. Moh did none of those things
@@moosa86 it is a faithful translation. Brethren is usually used in the English. Brethren identifies Jews. Not some distant supposed pagan "cousin", practicing a non-Jewish religion a half millennia and a thousand kilometers away speaking a new foreign language. The prophet in Deut 18 would be a Jew practicing the Jewish religion. All that rules out Moh
Let them use these verses, it backfires on them and lets them commit shirk without them knowing, they don’t know the difference between anouncing a prophet and sending a prophet, Allah sent the prophets in Islam, if Jesus sent Muhammad in John 15, it means he is Allah.
Hold up... did you just portray prophet Mohammad as a wojak 1:43. Muslims really hated when Atheist did this so watch out bro
Keep the islam videos coming!
Have any of y’all seen any YT shorts about Muslim Homer?
Like the animated Homer from the Simpsons show?
I might have to put my Patrick voice on to debate this false teacher 🤔
"The Bible is corrupted. It is not reliable!"
*quotes and distorts Bible verses to suit and affirm whatever narrative they want to push
Before you do a video on how the Quran affirms the Gospel, you should look into the silly but quickly growing argument that Allah affirmed a book called “Injil,” not the NT.
Thats an even worse argument
@@shroomitechromee There are no bad arguments when you start off assuming the Quran is the word of “Allah”
Islam implodes at the slightest application of logic.
Been a fan for a long time really enjoying these Islam arguments!
By quoting John, they just affirmed that Jesus is God’s son, and God. Both are damnable heresies. Moreover, by saying the Spirit of Truth is Muhammad, they just affirmed that Jesus sent Muhammad, making Jesus God! No way around it!
4:00 If you’re dog can say that then it probably is the smartest dog 😂
1:21 he proceeds from the Father.
Muhammad doesn't proceed from the Father, right ?
I haven't heard a Filioque confession and schism over the orocession of Muhammad.
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Would you please leave 10 seconds of silence at the end of your video, so that we can press pause, and see which 2 videos are recommended? I usually play your videos as part of a playlist, and UA-cam quickly jumps over to the next video. Also, I lime to scroll down to the comments before moving on. 10 seconds would help.
Jesus also states in John 16:7 that HE will send the Parakletos TO THE DISCIPLES.
Did Jesus send Muhammad as a prophet?
If we look at Muhammad’s *Fruits* or his actions-aka murder, r*pe, theft, adultery, owning slaves, and marrying a 9 year old, do you think Jesus would want that?
No, he told us to love one another as he loved us, not to kill those who don’t believe-not to steal or to bribe those who don’t believe-not to r*pe children or r*pe married women-not to enslave unbelievers and have your way with them
Jesus told us that false prophets will come and you would know them by their *Fruits* (actions) and I know that Muhammad is truly a false teacher
God bless 🗣️✝️
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 no he sent the holy spirt to help the disciples after he went back to heaven. Not a guy in a cave 500 years later
@@user-on9ie2lm1y evidence
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Allahs word never changes so there the bible is right
Is the word ecclecias or ex-caleo (call-out)the same as "para-kletes"? The concept of consecration of the host during the.mass.
The entire islamic worldview is confusing. On one hand, they say Jesus was a prophet who predicted Mohammed. On the other, they say Jesus wasnt crucified or resurrected. But Jesus predicted those things in the Gospels they reference. So one out of two things is true: Jesus is a false prophet, therefore his predictions of Mohammed were bogus. OR, Jesus was crucified, is the Son of God, thus nullifying the entire Quran. Is the Quran wrong about Jesus being a prophet, or is the Quran wrong about Jesus being crucified and resurrected?
St John of Damascus who lived in the late 600s and early 700s, writes about four books of quran, two of which are not in the modern day quran. Ifnyou read his works on early islam and how it displaced his family and property, he debunks islam fairly easily using known stories of the day and just thrashing muhammad left and right with orthodox teachings showing it was all made-up and ppl then knew it.
Every denomination of every faith seem to twist their texts here and there to suit some narrative.
Depiction of prophet as a coomer is so accurate xD
This guy is an actual Gigachad
Without lies islam dies !
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All of this is true - especially that we have not just scraps but entire complete Bibles that predate Mohammed by hundreds of years, which show no evidence of alteration, and which are geographically diverse.
There is one problem though. Christianity also has a long history of plucking verses out of context to use as prophecies. Isaiah 7:14, 9:6 and especially Matthew 2:23 (where he has to make a wordplay on the original, not even a direct quote) are obvious examples.
Doing this sort of thing wasn't really rare in Jewish tradition either. The literal meaning, the hinted interpretation, the meaning gained by rabbinic interpretation, and finally the hidden meaning. Jews call this "Pardes." (Whether this was a widespread Jewish tradition in the first century is uncertain. Philo was doing it - that guy again - but I've argued at length that he only influenced Christianity and was mostly independent of orthodox Judaism. So ideally there would be independent evidence of other Jews doing this).
So, unfortunately, as a whole most prophecy tends to be kind of squishy and Muslims can't really be faulted for doing this.
Of course there are much clearer prophecies of Jesus as well...
Where did they get thier patriarchs BTW? 🤔
When you're in a commiting shirk challenge but you opponent is a Muslim
Jesus loves you! He died on the cross for you. Please don’t take chances with your soul.
Romans 10:9 KJV
Yes, the Bible predicted Mohammad and Islam. We were warned about the false prophet and the false gospel
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The Bible exposed Jesus the FA_LSE messiah exp0sed by God so that the Is-ra-elit-e nation rightly re-je-ct-ed him.
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De-uter-ono-my 21 verse 23
Um twisting the scriptures to make the Holy Spirit into Muhammad is technically calling the Holy Spirit a devil or non existent and that's barking up a dangerous tree for sure that's the great comforter and I get a little offended by that because the Holy Spirit really has gone to bat for me and comforted me in troubled times and have faith that since he comforted me in small bad times the big bad ones He'll do as well amen
Sounds reasonable. Now let's do Isaiah 53 and Jesus in the same manner. You say that "Parakletos" isn't open to interpretation since in an earlier verse in John 14 Parakletos is clearly identified as the Holy Spirit. Now let's look at the "servant" in Isaiah 53. Is this servant clearly identified in any earlier verse in Isaiah? Yes, it does specifically identify this servant in Isaiah 49:3 saying "He said to me, 'You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will display my splendor.'" Does this mean the servant can't refer to anyone else? No, I think all Christians would agree the term "servant" appears to be used to refer to individuals as well, and would specifically say that at least some of the time when talking about the servant it is referring to Jesus. So if it is possible for a term to be used to refer to one thing in one verse, and another in another, how does the fact that "Parakletos" is used in an earlier verse in John to most likely refer to the Holy Spirit demonstrate that it can't be referring to Muhammad in another? In fact, in 1 John 2:1 the term "Parakletos" is specifically used to refer to Jesus instead, so we have clear evidence this term is not limited to refer only to a single entity. As such, the argument of "this term was used to refer to a different entity in a different verse and therefore can't mean Muhammad in this verse" doesn't appear very compelling when applying the same standards.
Next you point out that there are verses with Jesus referring to God as Father, which would be seen as essentially a form of heresy in Islam. Similarly though, I've never seen a good Christian explanation for what Isaiah 53:11 is referring to in saying that "by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many", or the alternate possible translation "Out of his anguish he shall see, he shall find satisfaction through his knowledge". I'm aware of the POSSIBLE apologetics, but they appear to me to be ad hoc rationalizations to make the data fit with the preferred conclusion rather than the most likely intended meaning. And with either translation, it sounds like the work of Christ is in some way effective through knowledge, which sounds a lot like what many Christians would call gnostic heresies. And indeed has been used as a proof text by gnostics like the Ebionites. Obviously there are apologetics as to why this is not what is meant that I'm sure you could bring up. I notice, however, you did not bring up many of the other typical Islamic apologetics for why Jesus would call God father, and chose to focus a huge amount of time instead on refuting what I would say is probably the weakest and most obviously wrong apologetic of "the text is corrupted".
I've seen Muslims say that it is not shirk specifically to refer to God as father, but that it should be avoided because it can result in thinking of God as an earthly father rather than as his true nature of absolute Lord and Creator of all. And that shirk is specifically about the INTENTION of thinking about God in terms of an actual father in a way that does not correctly acknowledge his absolute authority being different from an earthly father. Since shirk is about intention, and we can't see Jesus' intention from these verses, it would be impossible to demonstrate that Jesus committed shirk. I've also seen the explanation that this is commanded because Muslims are not to imitate Christians per Muhammad in At-Tirmithi, and calling God "father" would be an imitation of Christians. So it's not like Muslims have completely contradictory ideas that have no possible apologetics that could ever be given, while Christianity has only completely clear references to Jesus without any theological difficulties that ever need to be explained.
Now I do agree that it appears that the author of the verse in John almost certainly did not intend what they had written to be a prediction about Muhammad. I would just say that applying the exact same kind of standards to Isaiah 53, it appears that the author of those verses almost certainly did not originally intend them to be understood as a prophecy of a future Messiah, much less specifically about Jesus. Another important point here that didn't really fit in my comparison to your argument, but still seems very important to me, is the frequent use of past tense in Isaiah 53; he WAS despised, he WAS wounded for our transgressions, he WAS oppressed, etc. And even more telling, how it then SWITCHES to future tense to say that he WILL find satisfaction through his knowledge, he WILL be allotted a portion with the great. Obviously people can make apologetics about this being "prophetic past tense" for the first part, or some such explanation. But a plain reading of the text seems to obviously point to this being a person/people that HAD experienced suffering at the time of writing and then WOULD be vindicated/used by God to achieve the salvation of Israel/other nations. And that absolutely appears to be how the verse was read by its original audience and later generations before Jesus as well. To make this a prophecy you have to say that although the original author and audience did not understand that was what the verses meant, that is how God actually intended them to be understood after they were fulfilled. Always a bad sign when you have to retroject events that occur back into a prophecy after the fact in order to understand it "correctly". And Muslims could make this exact same sort of move with respect to John 16:13, along with the apologetics referenced above.
Mohammed's Quran is hardly any comfort.
This is quite the video to look into. I must say, the video does a good job of explaining its points in an easy to understand way. But, This video has some flaws that I hope to explain this comment (A lot of them are just the video arguing with itself). I myself may not 100% agree with the verse of John 16 as evidence to Muhammed (sAw), I do think this video brings up some bad defenses.
The argument that the video brought up at 3:59 is not really a valid one. Claiming the argument is circular because the video put down a stupid conclusion does not mean that Muslims have no point here. This is just the video arguing with itself.
At 4:10 the video brings up a point that there is no evidence to show that John 14-16 was altered. The video tries to prove this by saying that "every scrap of textual evidence we have shows that Jesus here is calling God his father" but proceeds to not show a single example of "every scrap".
At 4:50 the video tries to prove that Jesus called God HIS father, by showing examples of Jesus calling God THE father. I am sure there are probably other ways the video could try to prove that Jesus called God his father, this was definitely not one of the better ones.
At 5:27 the video goes on to say that Paul was legitimate in what he says about Jesus' godhood because he was around the apostles and elders. The main issue with this is that there is no way to prove the trinity was the original thought. This is because of where the idea was officiated, and that is the First Council of Nicaea. Held in 325, the council was put together by Constantine I to try to get facts together about Jesus and the Bible. There were to opposing views about the trinity, and those were of Arius and Alexander. Arius preached that the trinity was not real, and that God was 1 with no equals, while Alexander preached of the trinity. Alexander brought to the council local bishops from Libya, his country of origin. The issue with that is it can lead us to assume there is cultural bias with who the bishops would agree with, and that of course was Alexander. Arius refused to change his beliefs, and so Alexander excommunicated and exiled both Arius and his followers (That doesn't sound corrupt at all!). And thus the idea of the trinity was formed. This leaves us at the point where you cannot really prove whether the Bible included ideas of a trinity originally, because in doing so, you would need a Bible from the year 300. The modern Bible has been revised and edited by King James, so no, it is not the same one. Paul very well could have been legitimate, but we can't prove what he originally wrote/said about the trinity.
I definitely do not think that this verse was the best verse to prove Muhammed (sAw) in the Bible, but this video did not have the best accuracies so far. Video was easy to follow though. If you read through this whole comment, thank you for your time.
@@therandom3523
For the last 10000000000000 Milion times, THE COUNCIL OF NICAEA DIDN’T CREATE THE BIBLE!
What? 😂😂😂 Arius preached the trinity. He was Just saying that Jesus is just the son of God, not God
All Christians before the council of Nicaea, BELIEVED IN THE TRINITY! Like saint ignatius (idk if a wrote it correctly) Know the apostle John. And used the Gospel in Liturgy 😂
@@Police_Be_Upon_Muhammad If Jesus is not God, then by definition that is not the trinity. The trinity means that Jesus, the father, and the holy spirit are different, but the same (making up God).
Also your second comment makes no sense. You tried to prove all Christians believed in the the trinity before the council of Nicaea by saying Saint Ignatius knew John the apostle. That can't be, Ignatius was born in the 15th century.
Please try to get your facts straight, and respond correctly. If you think you can get me in a "gotcha" try to disprove the rest of my comment.
By the way, your account name is meant to disrespect Muslims and Muhammed (sAw), but that is not very Christian of you. Jesus teaches to love thy neighbor as thyself, so unless you hate yourself, be a good Christian and respect others.
@@therandom3523you do realize he specifically said Arius he's not stating his personal belief not the Christian belief either you're intentionally disingenuous or can't read
To say Muhammad was the last and only prophet to come after Jesus is laughable. Montanus, Mani, Joseph Smith Jr, Baháʼu'lláh are just a few that come to mind. (Were they false prophets? Of course. But all CLAIMED to be prophets of God.)
0:30 quran doesnt say they changed the writings. it says they altered the meaning. its easy to see when all the verses with the word "yuharrifune" (changing) read together. you should definitly make a video about quran affirming the books of the past. and you should show all those verses that uses the word "yuharrifune" in the video.
Jesus Christ is Lord
man can you please stop using that hat lol
it has nothing to do with Islam instead it's a hat mostly worn by a group of kurds and we have a great number of christans
would appreciate it greatly if you used another wojak 🙏🏻
1 hour early
See 16:102 in Koran. The HS is the source
@@mehmettekoglu-dr7tf the spirit in Mohamad wasn't the holy spirit, it was what we call a demon. He was demon possesd.
Trust me bro
@@TestifyApologetics i tested the Spirit. My conclusion is that it is come to comfort believers and offer salvation to the gentiles... Yet they've changed this last Scripture.
@@monsieurcharcutier4490 Sura 68 deals with the claim he was demonized. Wisdom from djin never feels clean. You can discern it (i hope)
What kind of holy spirit doesn't know his own nature? The jews asked him about the holy spirit in surah al kahf and his response (as allegedly given by jibreel the holy spirit) was, "it's nature is known only to my lord".
You'd think that jibreel would at least have been able to identity himself.
😂 😂 😂
lol after watching this i am an even better muslim and i thank God for my religion and my prophet and my book which is the truth
Willfully choosing isn't ignorance
If this video helped you share it with your friends 😜
@@timd3895 It did and we can all sit and laugh together at the sheer stupidity of it lmaoo
@@AliAbbas-eb9cb great share it 👍
Using the same critical mindedness, why not investigate the way NT authors stretched the meaning of OT?
He has actually
Quran’s Mohamed is Jesus. Those verses predict the coming of Jesus. For example, it says that Mohammed’s followers are like a plant that grows. That’s a verse from the gospels.
what do the Bible say about lgbtqa
Abomination
@@bran_brini_bron you’d wouldn’t like what Islam, Judaism, and any other mainstream religion says about lgbt either
Muhamed is prophesied in the new testament about as well as Jesus was prophesied in the old.
Where?
Dude, this is the same way that Christians swear Jesus is the messiah because of the old testament, but jews deny this using the same scriptures.
You're not going to change much, except give bias-- if you wish to refute Islam, tell people to read the Quran and see what their opinions on it are.
There is a pretty massive difference here. There actually is a Messiah in the old testament, things Christians can actually interpret as being about Jesus. There is no later prophet in the bible, so Muslims have to completely fabricate things out of thin air
Except Christians don’t claim the Tanakh is corrupted like Islam does. If we read the Koran it says in (7:157)&(61:6) to look into both the Torah and Injeel to find Muhammad, yet Jews and Christians deny he’s in there.
The New Testament easily connects to the Old Testament. It quotes it quite often. I’ve also seen many Jews convert when being confronted with evidence that Jesus is the messiah.
I see three instances of mental gymnastics.
@@allaware1971I only see one 😂
‘Achmed’ is supposed to be found BY NAME. Not merely by actions or inferences. It isn’t = Therefore ISLAM is FALSE.
Do not twister
As a muslim, i never need the bible to comfirm Muhammad (saw) 😅. I guess, the dawah teams are tired of Christians demonizing islam, so they tried to holyfied islam by using the bible. 😁
No we don't believe New Testament we talked about the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him you have the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him no the Quran not talk about the New Testament you have today
There is no Gospel of Jesus, only the Gospel. That's where you get the term 'injeel' from :P
Muslims and Christians both need read aramaic gospel
Sorry but im a christian but i have doubts about the story of adam and eve. I dont really understand it because theres scientific evidence of homo sapiens/early humans. In the bible theres adam and eve. So could someone pls explain to me on why adam and eve was the true first humans? Thank you.
Inspiring Philosophy has done a a lot of videos on this, you should check out his on evolution
If the Bible is still valid why is it not in its original language and why has it been revised mutiple times. Normally this wouldnt be a authentic and human intervention has made it obselete :) It's that simple, ofc iam talking to bunch of christian fanatics here who wont use their brains and will just yap this comment without even doing research on his own religion but ill let the truth comes to you because the quran has proven that people like you can change and be guided on God's destined path, which is through Islam☺
It is still in its original language you can find the Hebrew and Greek versions easily. In fact most Christian’s like to refer to them to get a deeper meaning.
If you think the revised English translation is something that Christians should be questioning.. please do not place Christianity at the same low level where Islam is. The Bible is still in it's original languages.. Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.
Unlike the Quran.. there are like 32+ Arabic Quran that is no exactly the same with eachother. The Quran that was standardazied in 1924 and was again revised in the 1980s. Despite all that revision, muslims still cannot get an accurate English translation of the Quran. 😂
It’s actually still in its original language. The original Greek manuscripts are online and you can read them. Translations. They’re translations, they alter words with the same meaning. On the Bible app you can actually pull up different versions and COMPARE THEM they say the same thing 😭.
God destined path that was created 600 years after the original 👏👏 and completely contradicts everything that came before it. Yess let’s follow it 👏👏
The Quran has been corrupted. Islam is false, and so is the false prophet. Jesus is King
Jesus was predicting the coming of another man like him.
Give me the verse that says "man" 😏
@@timd3895 was Jesus a man? Was Jesus The Parakletos? Is the word parakletos masculine? john 14:16, 26, john 15:26, and John 16:77-13 all these verses referred to The Parakletos as a he, him, whom.
@@ElParacletoPodcast Person is not the same as man. Can you think of any persons who are not men?
@@ElParacletoPodcast I ♥️ how earlier you said "it is Christians who distort the Bible" but here you are saying the Helper is "man" just because the words "he" are used. By that logic you just proved God and his angels are "men" too. Nice job. At least you would never distort the Bible, so that's good 😏
@@timd3895 well, I asked you, is Jesus a man, and you didn’t answer.
jesus in bible ' greatest command to worship OUR lord the one god only ' muslims obey jesus greatest command. christians do not... they want the wide road/free salvation of church if they worship trinity god
He claims to be this God though, several times...
@@brick839 does he really ?
@@aaronmusa234 John 8:58 "Truly, Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am"
John 14:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the father except through me"
@@brick839 centuries before Jesus. the pagan god mithras said ' I am the way. truth. life ' Jesus plagiarizing from a pagan roman god not very comforting. muslim 2002
@@aaronmusa234 Those words do not appear in the Mithraic Traditions. And those are myths, unlike the gospels, which are historical accounts of Jesus.
Who sent Jesus to earth,Testify
Take a wild guess
Bro what happened did your friend left you for Islam or something ? Because you are trying to much to destroy Islam it’s almost like you want revenge at someone
what a dumb thing to say
You clearly dont do research. Injeel and Bible arent the same. Injeel is the word of Allah just like Quran. It isnt the word of some people. Sadly we dont have Injeel with us anymore it is gone because of Romans. Bible and Injeel being the same is a big misconception between Muslims and that is why people try to find some verses and use them to their advantage without knowing a thing about the verse in Bible.
The point is the hypocrisy. If you're going to appeal to one part of the gospel, and reject others, then that's illogical.
Surah 6:115 and 18:27 state that no one can change Allah's words, yet Allah couldn't preserve the Injeel and yet Muhammad also says in the 7th century you will find me in the Injeel, books that they have. There is no mystery books floating around that the Romans corrupted or disappeared we have the manuscripts and we know what books the followers of Jesus wrote and used.
@@TestifyApologetics We dont say Injeel was corrupted we say it was lost. If it wasnt lost where is it then?
@@litigioussociety4249 I dont appeal to a Gospel by saying this what you talking about?
Also we know there is also truth in Bible. That it was corrupted doesnt mean every single verse is corrupted. But what you say about appealing to one Gospel already has nothing to do with my comment.
@@KuzeyAkkaya-sb2nk The point of the video was to address Muslims who cite one scripture as prophecying Jesus, yet discounting the rest of that book, which also states that Jesus is divine, was crucified, and rose from the dead. If a Muslim wants to be consistent, they should either reject all of the gospel of John as a source for their theology, or accept it as theology.
Islam is the truth. Try to prove otherwise
@@paincrayonsyt6962 he.. he just did though?
There’s nothing debatable about the changes made to the Bible. It’s fact. 0:42
@@RocXiety585 source trust me bro
Based on what evidence?
@@jayfenny7461 based on the footnotes at the bottom of the pages in my study bible. Verses have been altered, added and taken out.
@@RocXiety585 so you are basing the fact that a text has changed on the fact that its description gets updated in your specific copy of the book. How you logicing that one
@@jayfenny7461 omits. Changed. Altered. Or added. It’s not a software update. It’s blatant alterations. There is no justification for that. Divinely inspired, man made and altered. Both statements can be true. However once something is altered by the hands of man, it’s no longer in its original state. Yes some changes can drastically alter the meaning of the texts. This is why Christianity breeds so much confusion. It’s a “mystery” religion. A mystery that was forced upon the entire world by the Roman Catholic empire.