DMT, the Objectivity of Numbers, Arguments About Race and IQ, and Jew hatred - Peter Boghossian
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Peter Boghossian is a Founding Faculty advisor at the University of Austin and the Executive Director of National Progress Alliance. His most recent book is How to Have Impossible Conversations, and his writing can be found in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, Time Magazine, National Review, and elsewhere. His work is centered on bringing the tools of professional philosophers to a wide variety of contexts to help people think through what seem to be intractable problems.
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Thanks for having me on your show. I had a great time!
hell yeah! you rule bro
Next time maybe we can have Noam and friends walk on chalk lines so we actually know whether they; strongly agree, agree, are neutral, disagree, or strongly disagree. It’s not clear where they stand otherwise. Love ya Pete!
I appreciate you so much Mr. Boghossian. Thank you.
Hearing you talking about DMT is like my two UA-cam universes colliding. Looking forward to hearing you talking more about it soon Peter!
Peter, when you’re talking about fixing cognitive decline, how do you do it? Do you have any resources you can point me towards?
Please have Peter back one day! I feel like you guys could have gone on forever.
Thank you, Noam.
@33:29- “…what you don’t want is a society that has lots of resentments…” - Noam Dworman 🎯 (Excellent episode. Thank you!)
Brilliant episode and channel. I found you from Destiny and have been completely hooked since.
Love Peter, great interviewers. Subscribed
hell yeah! this rules!!!!!
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Loved the dgf honesty in this conversation.
~ Hi. Thanks for this.
The time scale of space is impossible to really envisage. Discovering the earth's entire history alone is already way more than we can grok. Imagine owning the jewel of eternity and then saying to someone " I'd like to try a different one ". We just don't know what we've got , etc.
Great discussion guys! When it comes to equality of opportunity(this is extremely hard to achieve) ) and equality of outcome(how?) it’s a pretty depressing subject. It just seems like a wide disparity is always going to exist due to multiple factors. Currently the amount of homes without fathers is only growing and that’s definitely not good . The public school system is beyond broken as well . With AI advancements increasing daily that certainly isn’t going to help either
Oh AI isn't going to help? Well done solving that one while the best intellects in the world waste their time trying to work it out 😁
I've pondered on the view of expertise. I think that what defines an expert to a degree is the status others give them through perceived recognition of skills. With that in mind, would someone who is little known but highly skilled be considered an expert? When does an expert become an expert? Is the overriding factor being highly skilled or being well known and possibly popular? I realise it could be both, but at what level?
I could be an expert at rebuilding 70's BMW motorcycles and be known by maybe 20 people and still be a world expert. I'm not at all but that's a good example
Can you reveal what Boghossian told you about maintaining your mental sharpness? Is one of the side effects becoming wholly unlikable?
Haha probably so. I think Patrice O'Neal was a good example of that.
Let's gooooooo
The clip is showing the feast of incompetent bureucracts while Empire is crumbling all around them
4:37 Maybe Peter's friend watched Avatar one too many times?
Is it still cheating if it’s another species?
It’s funny how quickly this UA-cam channel has grown. Even a lowly comedy club owner like Noam can become a famous UA-camr. 😂
I really enjoy this show. I'm glad it exists.
Look at how many children of immigrants successful despite the parents didn’t have money and the kids went to public schools. We also need more choice schools.
So the question remains: what are the immigrant students doing that American students aren’t? I think work ethic is obviously a big factor and that’s very hard to improve when people live in terrible areas, don’t have fathers and a mother that doesn’t know how to steer them forward . If the kid is highly intelligent he might take to it better but for the average kid that doesn’t like doing homework?
Periel is the Producer/ butt of the jokes.
Terence McKenna talked often about the machine elves.😊
20:27 the example I think he is about to go into, is the one of Cephalus.
Never mind lol
Also… is someone putting away cutlery and glassware in the background or just eating food off of a plate or something?
Noam can talk with the smartest people in the world and still be a complete jackass. I'm not sure why he has people on who think different than him if he is never willing to change his mind about anything.
Keep in mind he’s 60 years old and his mindset and views are now hardened like concrete. Once someone hits middle age their views are largely set
What position are you referring to?
@@brianmeen2158And such people should still have a voice about things. If we can't stand to hear people with different views talk....oh wait...this is the present unfortunate reality.
34:43 to 35:20 - Equal opportunity and anti-evidence.
I would start with getting rid of teachers unions and lay off old bad teachers!
Denying inherent differences between “the races” is really quite similar to traditional Creationism. It is in direct opposition to the theory of evolution. If humans have existed on different continents in different environments for thousands of years then there will inevitably be important differences between them
Actually, why don't we just go back to Herbert Spencer or even Madison Grant and scientific racism? This essentialist division of humans into 'racial differences in intelligence' is straight-up Fascism.
@@scythermantis Whether there are identifiable differences between ancestral population groups (or races) is an objective question. Has nothing to do with fascism - which is a system of government. Modern genetic science would actually perturb someone like Grant because it suggests that ashkenazi jews and east asians are naturally cleverer (on average) than Europeans.
There is NO argument about race an IQ. There IS only studies that clearly demonstrate a correlation between race and IQ.
Noam, please, dude, cant you see the ones tearing down the posters are the SAME ones who are protesting??
Some are.
The real "motte and bailey" aspect of Kamala's analogy for equality vs equity is that she switches between individual circumstance consideration and group based accommodations. Her analogy breaks down if you replace the two individuals, where one has a starting advantage over the other, with two groups where one group has a net advantage on average but there is a lot of crossover among the individuals of each group. Race based "equity" like affirmative action would be the opposite of what she claims it is because it doesn't look at an individual's particular circumstances, but instead provides benefits based on immutable racial characteristics.
23:58 Who is this Plato guy🤧
Noam, I think your charitable interpretation of Bernstein is correct - or at least it's better to err on the side of charity, here. Peter mentioned requiring more datapoints to come to such a conclusion, but to me the opposite seems more the case. We should require more data to condemn than we do to give people a pass.
Oh, and as for psychedelics, I wouldn't recommend DMT as your first foray, even though the short length might be appealing to you. Normally I'd recommend mescaline, but that can last for 10-12 hours, so mushrooms really are your best bet. I'm sure you can sequester four hours. :0)
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Fairness... What if... There wasn't enough food for everyone but a group decided to give the food to the children and the adults chose to be hungry? Is that still fairness? Seems like there is a long term objective like... Doing what's best for the long term success of the group. Maybe caring for the young or weak can be boiled to fairness, it's not obvious to me though. Maybe I'm just wrong thinking rationing resources in favor of children is justice.
Jfc, Noam, that was far more than just a GLITCH! WTAF?
He made some very strong statements that went totally unchallenged. Every single teaching institution is now based on one book. And they have all abandoned the search for truth?
Odd that he didn’t mention his writing partners name. The absolute nutbag James Lindsay I suspect.
Yeah that's what's lacking in those guy's theory of wokism. That magic books caused a mind virus.
Peter is making the mistake of going way too hard against the woke .. he is coming off as ideologically captured himself to a large degree. He needs to acknowledge that woke has indeed done a few good things but he just acts like the world is ending due to it and that’s just hysterical.
I'm fully anti woke and don't fault that, but his theory of wokism, magic books creating a mind virus is lacking as an explanation.
Is Peter an unusually good intellectual and it’s just coincidence that they cancelled him? or have many academics of a slightly lesser nature (less brilliant, or perhaps just less well-spoken) been cancelled and people didn’t notice? I think the latter, and the losses to our collective conversation have been immense. DEI ‘anti-racism’ has to stop, it’s so misguided. Some people feel it is fundamentally, but even if you agree with its goals, many people are trying to warn that it leads to regressive behaviors, aka it INCREASES racism and discrimination. and people are not listening.
Segregating under any whim is cruel.
Who’s being naïve, Kay?
It doesn’t follow that morality is objective simply because we can rationally derive moral principles. Obviously one can have a set of moral principles that is entirely subjective and coherent. The burden for the moral realist is to show that there are stance independent moral facts, and simply deriving coherent moral principles doesn’t get that done. Even if every person on earth had the same set of moral principles, that only means those principles are universal, not objective. Peter is a philosopher and knows better. I don’t know what he’s trying to convey with this view of morality but it’s very weak.
Good lord; the whole melodramatized "I went back in time and saw a mandala and inhabited a body and saw elves and had sex with blue aliens" made it impossible to take this guy seriously in the first couple minutes...
I agree with you that I hate listening to people talk about trips like this but dmt actually kind of is like he describes. It’s just impossible to explain the experience and not sound like a lunatic. Just to be clear, as much as I love psychedelic experiences I absolutely don’t attribute anything “spiritual” or woo-woo to it, it’s just a whacky cool experience and a testament to how cool chemistry and biology are.
Try some dmt and see how serious it is.
My issue with calling Trump “divisive” is that the media is the institution pushing that. If they treated him differently than maybe he would not be as divisive. Just think about if they gave the honesty scrutiny to Biden in the same way they do Trump. Would Biden then be divisive? In my opinion, the media is the culprit here. If they just treated both sides equally then maybe we would be less divided.
It's silly to make this an either/or situation. It's obvious that the media is divisive and it's obvious that Trump is divisive.
@@michaelfavata2720 I agree but Trump is not uniquely divisive is my point. Acting like he is anymore divisive than any other politician is the problem.
@MidWestCon Trump is absolutely uniquely divisive. Sure, in an era of negative polarization every president will get a lot of venom directed at them from the other side but Trump brought it on himself in a way no other president has come even close to. Even if you're pro Trump you should be able to own and acknowledge this criticism of him.
@@michaelfavata2720 I am not pro anyone. I don’t have strong views towards any politicians. I used to be so anti-trump though. As a gay man I thought he was gonna take all gay rights away. He was never going to do anything close to that but the media and NGOs pushed that. I’m not saying he isn’t divisive but just not as much as people have been told.
@@MidWestCon I mean remember just in the lead up to the election the grab em by the pussy comments? The fighting with the khan family? The "I like my war heroes not captured" comment about McCain? Appointing the justices that would overturn Roe v Wade? Threatening north Korea with nuclear Armageddon on Twitter? Obama had a scandal over wearing a tan suit. Biden has a scandal over looking at his watch during a soldier's funeral. I think it just was a crazier time.
Lol this guy is such a grifter. "YOU HAVE TO FIX YOUR MEMORY IMMEDIATELY".
Thus is just embarrassing. A person normally associates 'great comedian' when the comedy celllar is brought up. yuck
Who is the woman who contributes nothing?
Noam, when are you going to admit you were wrong, and Finkelstein was right, on the question of Israel starving the Palestinians?