The Great Glue Test | What Is The Best Wood Glue | Results
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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Here are the results of the glue test. so what is the best wood glue? the great glue test is here to answer all your woodworking glue questions and create a bunch more questions in their place. here are your answers to what is the best glue for woodworking.
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Old Brown, amzn.to/2IRwN53
315 hide glue, amzn.to/2ISepJk
251 hide glue, amzn.to/2JI50Fz
192 hide glue, amzn.to/2IUjRLJ
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Titebond II, amzn.to/2HxZKng
Titebond III, amzn.to/2IOl1Zp
White wood glue, amzn.to/2GVpfC6
White Elmer's craft glue, amzn.to/2vb9hyh
Super glue and wood Glue, (2P10 Thick and Titebond II)
Cheap Super Glue, amzn.to/2HwMLCe
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2P-10 Thin, amzn.to/2ITSmSF
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2P-10 Gell, amzn.to/2ITSmSF
2P-10 Thin W/Activator, amzn.to/2ITSmSF
2P-10 Thick W/Activator, amzn.to/2ITSmSF
2P-10 Gell W/Activator, amzn.to/2ITSmSF
Gorilla Glue, amzn.to/2Hy9jCL
3M 5200, amzn.to/2vbrsUk
West systems 205 fast, amzn.to/2IQXtmv
West systems 206 Slow, amzn.to/2qwwPI3
east coast resin, amzn.to/2HyaPVf
5-minute epoxy, amzn.to/2EIpWZv
Dap Dynagrip foamboard, amzn.to/2GUCKO7
Barge, amzn.to/2EJzD9L
Thinned barge, amzn.to/2GX10za
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Here is the updated test with 32 more glues added to the list: ua-cam.com/video/JFEPTPTtFsw/v-deo.html
This is a significant contribution for many of us, and I would like to thank you for taking the time (which I am sure was and is still,...considerable), and effort in presenting such a comprehensive review of the many glue options available. Those companies that did well SHOULD be sending you a huge thank you, and enough glue to last you a life time.
LOL thanks man. a couple companies have contacted me wanting to sponsor this, but I thought that might not be a good thing. LOL it would be fun though.
Hey James, this is an important piece of work. Thanks a lot for doing it!
Thanks Rex. It was a ton of fun.
I'm sure you're used to hearing this, buy you and I have VASTLY different ideas of fun.
LOL I don't know what you mean!
Thank you James very much for sharing this incredible project with us! Many blessings to you and I will be waiting for more results!
Thanks Tracy! You and me both.
Awesome .... that is by far the most comprehensive glue test I've seen done ..... great work!
Thanks man. I am looking forward to expanding it and making it bigger.
Wow James this was some test and the results were quite surprising. Thanks for taking the time and giving us some hard stats.
Thanks man. I'm looking forward to doing more tests in the future
Wow, this is so comprehensive! Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Thanks. I'm actually about to start the next series of glues. I want to compare them to some of the lesser used glues as well as glues from overseas.
Fantastic video. Thank you for putting so much time and energy in to this one. The results for Titebond 3 outdoors were surprising and I would've never guessed. Cheers!
Thanks. I am looking forward to the next round.
Now that the children have left the room, let me say how much I appreciate your efforts. The live session will be interesting to watch and I am looking forward to it.
Thanks Dilbert. I had a hard time shortening the video as I wanted to talk about a lot more than I saw in the data that seriously intrigued me. But I am a data Geek! LOL
A Geek who lives off grid, right ?
It's quite the sticky situation Robin.
Great info James, thanks for all your work!
Thanks man! I love the old Batman show. so many good dad jokes!
Most of us appreciate your valuable research. I'm sure 3M and others are looking for you in some dark alley. (lol) Currently I use West 105/205 and Titebond II but will be looking into adding 2P10 next to my single bottle of CA glue. Your results have modified how I'll use these resources in the future. It was a lot of work but greatly appreciated.
thanks Tyler. that means more then you know. there are not a lot of applications where Ca is useful, but where it is in the future I will not feel so bad using it now.
Wow. You did a great job. Putting together a DOE and executing like this is not easy. Thank you for doing it! Now I am going to check out the updated video with more glues added!
Definitely rethinking some things now. Heck of a test James!
thanks man. I love what data can do for people.
Thank you for the big spending that this video required! I thoroughly enjoyed this!
Thanks. I am working on the next one now.
I'm happy to hear that your homemade hide glue worked out so well. The main takeaway from the video solidified some of my current choices. I primarily restore antiques (clocks) and I always use hide glue for the repairs, and with newer pieces or laminations I use regular wood glue (PVA), which seems to have performed fairly well on your tests. I've used 2P-10 at a previous job and I know it's a really good quality glue, but the actual test results were surprising to hear (gap filling and exterior). The thin is mainly good to fill cracks or chips. We used it a lot with the activator when installing crown mouldings and baseboards. Just glue the joint perfectly, then brad nail it in place.
It was a lot of fun to see the if assumptions lived up to reality.
Well done. I appreciate all the effort you put in to this test.
thanks Nate. it was a fun chunk of Data
Might get some 'stuck up' responses from people who get 'unglued' by your tests . But keep right on 'sticking it' to them !
LOL. Thanks man
Thanks so much for this! The entire process has been fun to watch!
thanks Clint. this has been a lot of fun to put together.
Thanks for all your hard work James. That was eye opening!
thanks John. that means a lot.
Thanks for this amazing contribution to the woodworking communitie! Loved your vid! Greetings from Brazil!
thanks Pedro. that means a lot.
This is some valuable information! I'm glad you had the patience and tenacity to see the meticulous tests through because I certainly would have cracked under the pressure 😂
LOL thanks man. I am stubborn if I am nothing else!
Thanks for all the testing. A lot of work must have gone in to this.
I was really looking forward to this video series and you didn't disappoint. I was not surprised with the homemade glue or CA glue. I was surprised with the Titebond though. I have been woodworking for forty years and have great faith in PVA glue or what many across the pond call school glue or white glue and rarely find the need for Yellow glue plus the staining is such a bugger. I don't know, maybe it's as you said in a previous issue is that it really comes down to the quality of the join/joint of which, not all of mine are perfect. PU glue will work, but not as a gap filler. More wood around the joint is best for that LOL. Thanks, James for a great and informative experiment.
thanks Gary. it is always interesting when you get data to compare experience to.
Congratulations on your red carpet, oscar winner, protracted introduction - fantastic. Almost had me in tears...!
James, if ya didn't already know; Popular Woodworking mentioned you / this vid this morn. That's 2 or 3 times now, you da man, the machine the legend.
Lol yup. I'll be doing a blog post for them soon.
heck yeah, thats up there if ya ask me
Extremely interesting James. Questions that need to be asked that would be hard to answer is how it holds up over a long span of years (50+?) for "heirloom pieces of furniture and also the "repair-ability" of the glue after a long period of time. Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together. Was fascinating to see the spreadsheet numbers.
that will be the next test. I will be gluing up a few of the key glues and be testing them every few years and just leave them in the garage for many many cycles of expansion and contraction.
Wood By Wright way to keep us in suspense....Speaking of being inpatient, I'd love to see dry time tests. Like how quick could I pick up and start working after a glue up.
that would be interesting
Well, when we'll have that answer (in 50 years) most of those glue will not be comercially avaiable anyway so are data on this really important ?
The only exception being hide glue of course.
Testing the reversibillity of the glues for repair would tell much more IMHO
Just my 2cts...
that will be an upcoming test. but PVAs have been around for over 100 years, and superglues are here to stay so the data will be well worth it. plus we can get incremental data as i test it every 6 months. probably won't be scheduled to go much longer than 20 years. at that point, you should have a solid idea.
From my view I have a degree in chemistry and physics, and you have done an outstanding job. Well done! You've probably already thought of it, but I could recommend writing this up and submitting it to some of the wood working magazines. This is great information that would get a whole lot of badly needed extra exposure. There are so many adhesives on the market that the average user really has little clue as to how well any of these works. Thanks James. I'm a great fan of yours.
Thanks Dan. I'll be doing a blog post for pop would but I might submit it to one of the magazines. We will see
So basically super glue is super awesome!!! Congratulations on the test James - that is some amount of work.
ya who would have thought. I was blown away by the outcomes. looking forward to doing a long-term test on it.
Great to see the results. I use West Epoxy a lot for boat repair work and the only drawback is that it like many epoxy products it is a little susceptible to UV damage so you do need to cover it with something to provide UV protection. Thanks for doing the test - very interesting
Very true. Adult a plane with West system and you had to be very picky about the paint you used to make sure it would actually block out the UV.
For somebody totally new like myself it was a fascinating piece of research that in all probability has saved me money. Thank you very much indeed.
Thanks. My pleasure!
Excellent work; lots of surprises and interesting data points. This will certainly affect how I use glues in the future. These tests are a great service to woodworkers everywhere, and I hope they get you a ton of new subscribers.
I think it would be neat if in your live feed or some other video you showed footage of some of the actual tests being done. It wouldn't provide any new information that isn't in your raw data, but I think people would enjoy watching the procedure.
thanks Karl. I actually did a live feed of me doing the test earlier this week. but not everyone gets those notifications.
Great job, thanks for putting so much work into this!
thanks Kalen. this was a fun one for me.
Thanks heaps for your video. I found this absolutely invaluable as I was asked to repair a long grain to long grain crack in a mahogany dining table and wanted to know the strength test on the different glues. Amazing keep up the good work!
Thanks. I am working on the next set of tests now. Should be out soon!
I'm watching a glue test at 11pm on a Saturday night and not ever regretting it. Way to go! Looking forward for the long term results of the super glues. Do you expect any difference in shear and pull strengths? I imagine if you glue a board (e.g. a table top) it would see more pull forces than shear forces? Keep it up - liking you channel the more I watch it.
Thanks. I should be starting that test here soon. there really is no wat yo test wood gluing in tension and separate the variables to focusing on the glue, but most all joints the pressure is in shear. it is a rare thing to have a joint in tension. so I am ok with it for now.
good info james thanks for doing the tests
Thnaks Gene. it was my pleasure. this was a fun one!
I've been using TB III as my go to glue for many marine applications (paddles, gunwales on boats, etc etc) and have had good success, and more importantly no failures.... yet.
So It surprises me to hear it failed in the "outdoor weathering" test you did.
Now I have to rethink my construction. I have a great example sitting in my back yard, where I attached an ash gunwale (11 feet long, with a 16.5" bend, so it's under constant strong tension) to a sailboat, with nothing but TB III to hold it in place.
I live in a climate that literally explores randomly wild extremes in temperature and moisture including being the coldest place on the planet from time to time, so I have exhibited a good deal of faith in the product, --- and looking at it in its storage place, having gone through one winter in place... it hasn't seemed to weaken (how could I tell unless it failed?).
Maybe I should add some mechanical fasteners to it (screws) to ensure things stay in place???
Any chance your test was tainted?
The big benefit with 3 over 1 and 2 is that it will re-harden after being wet. But it will still fully soften and water. Most applications though have a mechanical method of holding the board in place. So that it stays where it is until it dries. And even then it would need to be fully soaked. All of these test blocks are only one inch by 3/4 in. So it's very easy for the water to fully absorb into the middle.
5200 is great stuff in the right application. It's not really meant for bonding wood. For waterproofing fittings on a boat it is the best. Also, when using epoxy as a glue you can add wood flour (fine wood dust) and silicone powder to thicken it. It makes an amazing glue and will fill almost any gap.
This is some significant stuff here. I would love to see someone repeat this experiment.
Dfenently. I would love some peer review. I would also like to do a lot more testing personaly.
Well, you certainly worked your way out of that sticky mess. Your marathon skills show. The CA glue results are a surprise for long to long and gap filling, I imagine a bit pricey per square inch. On a “hold for buck” the tried and try PVAs did well except outside. Thanks so much for all your efforts.
thanks Richard. I am interested to try the CAs in the long-term test and also the shock test. we will see.
Wow! Great test! Thanks for doing this and for publishing your data! I just built two patio tables and used Titebond III for the glue up. If I had seen your video before that, I would have used something else. Live and learn!
thanks. Same here. I had two furniture builds fail in the past. I chalked them up to bad construction as they were some of my first. now I may replace the blame.
Wonderful information. Super job!!
Excellent project James, thankyou for sharing.
thanks. my pleasure
Very informative James. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure Corey! this was a fun one!
It’s strange I have been using super glue for ages now and always loved it for my woodwork especially on small fiddly bits but I’ve used it in bigger pieces as well, fantastic test James and your commitment is astonishing!!
Thanks man. I have used it from time to time but always felt bad useing it. Now I can feel a lot better.
Some interesting results. Particularly with the CA glue. I have used it for cracks by squeezing a bit in while sanding. Also have used it to raise the string action on guitar nuts by using it and baking soda to fill the slots and then re filing.
thanks Jim. I am interested to see how it does on the long-term test.
Really useful info. Thanks for your efforts!
My pleasure. I'm looking forward to doing future test
Thank you bro! Great tests.
my pleasure!
Phenomenal work. Thanks
Oddly, the ad that played leading into the video is for Akfix adhesive...Great test James, thanks for doing it.
LOL nice! maybe I should add it to the next test, but it seems to be a thick CA with activator.
I would love to see the top glue picks tested on a more porous wood, such as oak. Great video, thanks!
yup. that test is coming up. in this test, I just wanted to isolate the glue and try not to get wood breakage but further tests are coming.
Fantastic stuff, good job James!
thanks man. it was fun to put together!
I'm amazed by the usefulness of the 2p10. I love it for it's quick hold but didn't think it was giving that kind of performance
as am I. it will be interesting to see how it performs in the long-term test.
Great tests, James!
Thanks man.
Definitely interested in seeing how the construction adhesive performs for those of us without heated shops . It may be ugly and hard to clean up, but it will properly cure in the cold.
That will be very interesting to add to the test. I'm looking forward to those.
Thank you very much on your research the types of glue.
Thanks. I am about to start the next series.
James i have to thank you , my patience was no where near yours to do this test lolll . Now i no witch gloo to take for my projects in the future . The fake one have bean pointed out thanks to your devotion 😉👍🏼🇨🇦
Thanks my pleasure.
This video is just what I was looking for. Love a bit of data rather than just opinion
Thanks. I am about to start the next step.
Surprised to hear that the Titebond II and III are so strong. This is valuable information you have here. Good on you for all the time and effort.
Subscribed!
thanks. I actually just put out the second series of 32 glues if you want to see that here. ua-cam.com/video/JFEPTPTtFsw/v-deo.html
I was kinda waiting for a glue test but I see that is in another video. Will check it out.
here is the updated test with 32 more glues added to the list. ua-cam.com/video/JFEPTPTtFsw/v-deo.html
Great information. I've been using Bob Smith slow cure epoxy and so far I really like it. I was scared of the low price ($14 for 9ozs on ebay) but a lot of good reviews and it hasn't done any different than any other epoxy I have used.
I might have to put it in the next test.
I was surprised a bit at the TiteBond III performance outside. Maybe it would be better under finish, but this is a good word of caution there. Really appreciate your thoroughness. Stick with the great work. I just had to say that.
you and me both, made me look back at a few past projects.
I really appreciate the effort you made in your tests. I would like to hear your thoughts about the ease of use, clean up, and waste factors that would help decide an over all best in class. Id like to hear a discussion about having to use activators and do they affect the wood color, how much gets wasted due to clogging in the applicator i.e. CA glue, or hardening in the container. I personally have never used an entire container of CA glues or Hide glues because off premature hardening or shelf life Issues. Thanks, Alan
ya there are a lot of other parameters I would like to test in the future. this test was just focusing on strength, but there will be other tests in the future.
James I salute you for all your effort and cash on these tests. Your results are fascinating and I’m looking forward to some longevity testing that you mentioned.
Clue tests every 6 months for the next 20 years!? YES, SIR!
I know. That sounds like a lot of fun to me.
Thank you James.
my pleasure Robert!
Great stuff here. Thanks for your time and effort and dollars for our benefit. Were the PVA glues given adequate time to cure prior to outside testing? These are emulsion products and if insufficiently dry they remain soft, which is a problem inside the joint where air exposure and moisture loss can be quite slow. They may have been sticky because they were never fully dry. Any kind of exposure to an alkaline substance may have also affected these glues even when fully cured, with a similar gummy result, so results could be situation-dependent depending on environmental exposures. Also, please consider adding a waterless UF glue to your test group. Powdered UF glues are mixed with water that can cause swelling and grain raising issues that can apply pressures on the joints well beyond those in your test. Like other viewers, would be curious to hear about clamping pressure & glue line thickness as well.
Thanks. I will have two UF glues in the series I am working on right now. yes, all the glues had more than their required cure time before going outside. all of them were applied for at least a week before going to the elements. as to clamping pressure I used the manufacturers suggested pressure with the use of adjustable spring clamps. if the manufacturer did not suggest a pressure I chose 180PSI as that was close to the middle of most glues when using hardwood.
Awesome test, and some very surprising results.
thanks man. it was a fun one to play with!
Great video. Look forward to more future unbiased testing videos!
thanks! I am working on the next one now.
This is an incredible amount of work! Thank you James. If you do anything in the future I'd be curious about how something like Liquid Nails would perform. Also, what was the consistency of the cheap superglue? Since it did well, I assume it was not very thin?
Thanks. Yup the next set will have several construction glues. It was a thick super glue
Thanks man, much appreciated!!
I am working on the next set right now with 32 more glues. It should be out on Wood By Wright How 2 in a few weeks.
Great job James !!
Thanks Robert.
I'm kinda late to the party, but wanted to comment on the marine adhesive. I have not tried it on wood, but it is has phenomenal adhesive properties on most other materials. I used it to attach an ABS box to a Polyethylene surface. It has been exposed to sunlight and weathering for several years without failure. It is rather flexible and takes a couple of days to fully cure. Probably works better in a thick layer and I imagine it would bond well to wood finishes.
Great test--------thanks for the effort
Thanks Tim!
Valuable data! Thank you!
I wonder if the super glue would differ in bond strength on kiln-dry vs greener wood?
In particular, the poor PVA performance is a shocker to me, but I have been using epoxy more often lately.
People are also using super glue online with talcum powder and other fillers to make super hard fill putty. Super stuff!
Again, thanks for your hard work. This is a gift!
Right on. I want to do more tests like that. I have an updated test with 32 more glues.
Awesome video! Very interesting and great info!
Thanks Adam. looking forward to doing more!
great info! wish id of seen this before i used tight bond 3 on a outdoor sign i made
ya me too. I was not expecting that kind of failure.
Look, hundreds if not thousands of people have used TB3 for external projects. Successfully.
Here, the blocks fell off before the actual test. Kinda throws the methodology into question.
Edit: And I don't just mean sheer vs wiggle strength, or fragility or age, or any of the other things people have been saying. At a distance this looks like a glue up problem. When EVERY other test puts PVAc well ahead in long grain joints, you've got to question the data. At least try to explain it.
Very nicely done James! Now that's what I call "sticking" to an experiment & coming up with some "binding" conclusions...... :)
Lol nice. Thanks man.
Very “punny” 😉
That's some awesome effort!
Strength aside, I'm a committed proponent of hide glue as it is right in there with the "right to repair" movement. Thanks to hide glue, I can still repair any antique furniture including (if I ever need to) the furniture made by my great grandfather and there's no other glue that can beat that test!
very true. It is amazing for that and being able to extend the life or the work!
Great work!!! Thanks
thanks Tomas!
Soooo the answer is... GLUE HOLDS? Seriously though this was a great test and the results surprised me. Thanks for doing such a good job. Unless I need something to hold my JD 1025R in the air, I think most of the tried and true glues will do the job, even hide. I view glue like clamp pressure. 99.635% of the time it just needs to do its job, not mush the crap out of something. Long term and weather test long term is the key, and I think you covered or are covering that. As said, 30+ years of PVA is out there.
I really liked this test as now I can show the younger ones, yea I'm older, "see the glue I've been telling you to use works". You can't counter real data.
Glue, between two guys at the Guild is like guns, religion, cars, tractors and screw heads, rarely is there consensus.
Great Job!
LOL so true. good data speeks!
That guy (Terry) and if ya got help with the online spread, HELLYEAH!!!! to them & Bless you, awesomesauce this is by far the best glue test I have ever seen. Thx again James for it all, and will be waiting for more.
Oh ay. this was a fun one. I am looking forward to adding to it in the future!
Thanks for all of the work. In addition to more construction adhesives, maybe also do more outdoor testing.
thanks. that is in the plan. we will see how they do!
Thank you for taking the time to do this. I am sure it got tedious half way through.
thanks. actually if got more and more exciting for me as I got closer to the data. I am looking forward to the next test!
Curious, do you know the exact highest temperature you brought the hide glue up to? Did you calibrate your Hold-Heet?
Very helpful information
My pleasure!
This data is going straight into Minitab as soon as I can. I’d really like to run stats on it.
The superglue surprised me. I’ve seen test results from reliable sources that always had Type III pva’s on top. Type I close behind. Epoxy came in third. I trust your results though, you showed us everything but the assembly. I also like the amount of data that you ran.
I’m expert in gelatin manufacturing (hide glue). It has surprising properties. It’s a lot tougher than anyone gives it credit for. Hot water is its enemy though
Keep up the good work and the great content.
Thanks Joe. I am interested to see how the super glue does on the long-term test. I will be starting that one here soon.
Who knew, CA glue for the win! I'm gonna look through this data and maybe make some charts for myself haha. Awesome work James
Sweet Ben. I thought a few people would appreciate access tot he raw data.
Wood By Wright yea I will definitely be taking a look! I am surprised by the titebond II outside... I carve foam duck decoys and you paint it with titebond II and cover in sawdust to make a hard and strong shell that can sit in the water... maybe I'll have to reconsider my glue! Also, looking for the best glue to laminate the limbs for longbows, hmmmmm
8:44 That's because in the Cyanoacrylate molecule, the acryl groups in the resin rapidly polymerise in the presence of water to form long, strong chains. Meaning when it comes into contact with the moisture in the wood it sets very fast before the end grain can absorb it completely into the wood. Protip: Baking soda causes the super glue to instantly set and it becomes much stronger because it donates carbon atoms to the superglue itself. That's a tip alot of model aircraft hobbyists use, because it gives ALOT of structural support.
Very true!
Hello Mr. Wright, I am 72 years old and when I was a kid in the 1950's, My Dad was a wood boat builder on the coast. they constructed wooden planked Boats up to 90 feet. There was a Glue they used back then put out by Weld Wood that was a Light Brown powder, you mixed with water. It got as hard as Wood Pecker Lips. I can remember one of the men in the shop would glue scraps of wood together , tie a string to it, after it dried, of course, and throw it in the river, where it would stay for up to 2 weeks. Then he would pull it out and attempt to break it with a hammer by hitting it very hard. It would only bust the wood. Never did it come a lose at the glued joint or flat places, where some were glued just on top of another block. I have looked for this and recently found it by ordering it from Walmart. They do not carry it in the Store. I am not sure if it is the same stuff. The picture showed it in a plastic tub, where, when I was a kid, it came in a tin Paint can. Before all the plastic containers. haha You might want to check it out. I have got to glue in a neck on a Gibson guitar and am thinking of ordering this glue for a test. I have had the TiteBonds turn alose on me. I am not happy with Tite Bond glue. Okay, Thank You and I enjoyed your Review,
That one is on my list for the next test. I ahve heard a few good things. I am looking forward to testing it!
There's a lot of good thought in the comments. One thing I wondered, seeing some of the longevity discussion (I won't be here in 50 years to see your final longevity results...) was the performance of some of the more modern glues in Luthier applications. Even more, I'd like to see a test of the effects of various glues on musical tone transmission. Some videos discussing glues out there are clearly put on by the companies making the glue, and that gets a little sticky.
that would be an interesting idea. might have to play with that. thanks!
Well done James. Like you, I think I will stay with PVA for my day to day glue ups. and use CA for quick jobs. It's also economics . If the PVA gives you the strength you need then the cliché fit for purpose. Thanks for the time and trouble.
So true. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the data from future test it will be interesting
Amazing test, well done! would super glue not loose out in a shock test it tends to be a strong but brittle bond when dropped ect.?
I will be doing a shock Test in the future.
Weld bond & Titebonds “multi surface” glue! I just picked up titebonds multisurface thick/quick glue. That stuff rocks! I was gluing up some outside miters for baseboard/recessed paneling 1x and decided 2 corners in let me grab my Collins miter clamps, quick clamps and try out this “clear drying” multi-surface titebond. First off it sets in minutes vs titebond 2 which is about 10 min let’s say. So you don’t have much time to play with it. I glued, miter clamped, brad nailed, then quick clamped to get the miter extra tight. I gave them an hour before I took them to the wall bc I had plenty more to cut/cope. When it came time to glue/nail them to the wall dayyyyyymn! The miters were super solid! Not one opened back up, & I was able to bend the pine & partially the poplar to get them squared & leveled to the rest of the panaling/wall (wavy ass framing!?) I was very glad with the results. I went back around and used the multi-surface to fill in any miters/butts that I didn’t clamp off wall earlier bc it’s so thick. We will see down the road when the house finishes settling/acclimating & then again in a year or so. It’s my friends house so I’ll be able to check my work 😆 another carpenter/woodworker I follow on YT says he has been using Weldbond for many applications & is very impressed! I have to pick a bottle up to check it out & also grab some more fancy CA glues to play with. Dope vid btw! I am one for statistics so this was right on par with how I would of went about the comparison!
Thanks man those are both on my list for the next series which I should be starting here soon.
really nice thank you
My pleasure.
WOW MIND BLOWN 🤯. Thank you James this is quite the eye opener. I’m glad hide glue came back as well as I expected but 2P10 I always used it for just jigs and as I just learned to stabilize certain areas like with Ambrosia Maple. That said the other day I made a quick and dirty D/C hose holder with the 2P10 gel and it’s holding up fine. Awesome job thank you so much, can’t wait till the live show ( Warning you definitely stirring up the pot)!!! We got your back though.
LOL thanks Thom. I am interested to see how CA does on the long-term test. that will be coming up as well as several other tests.
Wood By Wright That’s another I can’t wait to see. Thank you for all of your hard work.
Great test, great contribution to woodworking. Very interesting how the thin 2P-10 is as poor as their thick stuff is great. WRT the West Systems, did you do a post-cure?
thanks man! I did not do a post cure as few woodworkers would be able to or would want to subject the wood to those temperatures. thought it would be fun to see it it would make a difference.
Agreed, it would be interesting, maybe something for the future. Most post-cures are done at very reasonable temps, certainly nothing that will harm wood. 125 degrees F for 8 hours is fine, maybe 140 degrees F. Thanks again, always looking forward to your next video!
Outstanding test James. Thanks for sharing. What's interesting is that the PVA glue was invented about 100 years ago by some German dudes and the formula has been virtually unchanged since then.
thanks. I know I was actually impressed by the cheap Elmer's kids glue. that stuff is seriously good.
Exactly. I tested it unscientifically some years ago with a shear test and was surprised. I thought it would snap but the wood sheared instead. Your Cheap Super Glue test surprised me as well. Who knew? Lol! You may have initiated a run on that stuff by woodworkers at the Dollar Store all by yourself. :)
James, if you end up running more of these tests in the future I would be interested to know how 'Titebond Extend' stacks up to the other Titebonds.
I might add it to the next list.
thank you . i was shocked on the tight bond 3
I know that was really interesting to me
This is the best executed test I’ve seen on UA-cam. Great job. I’d love to know how superglue holds up over time. UV light will kill superglue and I love to know if the glue inside a joint would be safe. Great work!
Thanks man. That is what I was expecting to kill the super glue on the exterior tests as they sat outside for 2 weeks.