Bro, concerning music, in reality, I am just as in spirituality - Orthodox, no matter the Religion, you get me. Meaning, you know that Music Organically Produced, is actually something as an invisible beat-maker track, which was born within humans from the very start. I think, bruv bruv, that organically, even errors, are sometimes extremely successful, you already know. Jazz? Ask whatever A.I. to "fix" Jazz? BUT A.I. is a helpful tool! You could call Suno somehow Mainstream. They got userbase and database, sir. Udio is lighter and ofcourse, as competition, it offers a variety of functions. And ofcourse the spice part again: IF YOU PERSONALLY, try to fix Jazz with A.I., although an enemy, THEN I DON'T WANT PEACE! I WANT PROBLEM! ALWAYS! AND I will personally call CARL MALONE THE POSTEMAN to deal with you! 🤣😂🤣😂 p.s.: You want your music to be A REAL SAY? PULSE Music -> SUB, BELL, AND DON'T YOU DELAY!
It's the thing that makes me realize we are living in the future. It's 'so much fun' to me. But I think I am very aware of the power of words and it seems like I can use that awareness/power. Magic. On the other hand, the toy seems to make better music than humans just by its own (with almost any words). Maybe it's matching my taste of music so much because of 'the way I am' (dadaism, happenstance, variety...). I'm speaking about Udio. It's such a pleasure to make this journey of extending those 30 more seconds. I wish I had more time for this. The realm of possibilities is so intense, it's like a new childhood. I feel like I'm born for this. I used to want to become a DJ but I started making music but I somehow only made experiments. Now I can find music with no human restricting character imprint and at the same time somehow be the creator of it - in-between DJ and music experiments. Exactly what I want... so far (not knowing what might come soon). It can even do stand-up comedy and somehow understand or mimic all emotions and micro contexts...(?) - somehow more human than (most) human (?)
That's a very strong statement right there family. I wouldnt say I swear to it . I understand it's capabilities and what it can and possibly do. But it's also perception and opinion for alot of folks. The dialog on here is awesome and I love it. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feeling on the subject! 💯💯💯
Suno will win! I don't have any doubt there. I think the labels need to be put in their place, they've controlled the industry way too long. Change is coming, embrace it or don't, but I have no doubt better music will hit the waves because most of the crap that is being produced today is not very good. I see a rise of lyricists / songwriters coming out of the blue and creating some amazing stuff. Either way it won't diminish those that deserve to be heard, if you got good stuff, people will hear it. the cream always rises to the top.
Ok family. I can see and understand why you feel that way and find some value in your comment. I do embrace change and I don't want the companies to make more money off of us but I do want us to all be protected and valued for our creation. In that, we need to find a medium. Appreciate your comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Great dialog! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
this aint it...If these companies win musicians are doomed....Whatever you think the cream of the crop is it will just be copied by a.i. the day it is released. The following week hundreds if not thousands of songs sounding like "the cream of the crop" will be available for prompting
@@bobby4f I have to disagree, not with social media. Current interest in music is trending down. There needs to be a shift and a change to reignite interest in art. A smart MUSICIAN would utilize these platforms to enhance their writing process and hone their craft to make better music; this is a tool just like anything else. And speaking outside the "Musician" aspect, it's a gift for humanity to enhance music in general, but there are limitations, and there WILL ALWAYS be room for people to create unique and great stuff. A song can go viral, yes, and people will listen whether it's AI or not, but there will always be the personality attraction between humans that will always reign supreme, which is something AI will never accomplish. And by the way, it's not copied; that's not how it works. Sure, you can have a chance to have creative overlap, just like the real world, but I'm sure if anything, this will push them to have more safeguards to ensure no one can manipulate the prompts, use copyrighted vocals, and such.
The cream will not come to the top. In fact musicians who have put decades in their craft and played guitar for 15-20 years and piano lovers producing masterpieces now a prompt can do that. We are lowering the greatness of this craft. Music is divine and a bunch of Zeroes and One. It's best left Humans be the only decoders of it.
@@jayded Interesting feedback family...................Thank you for your persepctive on this seriously! Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and channel! Blessings!
Sounds pretty solid. We just have to wait to see who's pockets are bigger, smh lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope you were inspired or motivated in anyway. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
As they should. Creators are tired of worrying about copyright infringement. Let non musicians make their own music! The music industry is afraid. They have too much power.
@@m4sgtjeffy547That a valid point. And seeing that they had that power this could be easy to say that this is a flex of that to gain more control??? Appreciate that outlook and feedback. 💯💯💯
@@m4sydjrI just wanted to thank you for just coming through and really dialoging on the vid and discussing. Thisnis the part I really enjoy in the production community. 💯💯💯
At the end of the day that is what i also think will eventually happen. They will devise a way to make both side profit and all of this would have been for nothing smh. Greatly appreciate your comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motives you family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
That's been since day one and not just in case like this where the community needs representation but we need to have a solidified front for the production community. As always though some be on the everyman for himself, smh.
I keep seeing comments saying the it will go open source which is fine but is that an actual benefit for the community and for us as a while on a broader spectrum? It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the long game. But mostly it will be about more money than anything. Hopefully not but we will see. Appreciate i put and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
That's a good point family. Will be interesting to see if they actually let that happen though. It's gonna be a fight for sure. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope you like the vibe! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@dagga07I think being free wasnt more so the issue but what could be used in that free open source for the community. I value to protect the artist and allow the community to actually have "real" AI generated sources and we go from there. Appreciate and love the input family. 💯💯💯
@@dagga07 yea but if companies aren't allowed to make a profit from it then someone will release it for free. It's like when they shut down Napster and then Lime wire and other download sites started popping up. They couldn't stop it from happening.
Great point family.......didnt even think about that one. And you right they didn't stop it but it did fizzle out though. So we will see how it goes. But definitely and valid point. 💯💯💯
True but the things that are "AI" isn't AI if it's original and have been curated and selected from the jump. Read through some of the comments and you will see what I'm talking about. It's gonna be a long fight for this one but an interesting topic to discuss. Appreciate the input family. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup I may have simplified it a bit. If it's a crime I hope they are very careful so it does not affect artists in a negative way. That we can still sound like other artists and be inspired by their style.
@@jenstornellI do agree with you on that case. I think it's fun like I said in the video to do it for personal uses. When it becomes commercial and starts making money they that different. Imagine your music and lyrics being used and another person is getting paid for your words, voice and music. In that example I agree to protect. But the BIG 3 are using that as a plot twist to say but they want the money honestly. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Agree, I think. I still think we should be able to be inspired by a style for professional work. Else almost all new music are in danger. Everything we do is inspired by something else. But copying stuff like lyrics or samples is something else. For that we have copyright laws in place already. If you get some traffic on this, maybe you can cover the outcome of this when it's over. It's interesting to hear different point of views.
@@jenstornellI totally agree with you on that. I will be making sure to do we this and put up results as they come. The dialog is really good on this topic so I definitely will be updating. Appreciate you and for the dialog on the topic! 💯💯💯
Didn't we all train our ears and minds to appreciate music by listening to other artists? Could any of us have created music that have never heard commercial recordings before? Music has fads that everyone copies, like the twangy pop guitar songs of the 60's, the sax solos of the 80's, the croaky vocals of today (which I can't stand)? Just because AI trains on it, doesn't mean that they're faithfully and unfairly duplicating the beats, melodies, and vocals. All decent artists can expect to have their styles copied by other artists, just don't duplicate the music. Also, keep in mind that comedy or satire is fair use of copyrighted materials. Stuff like Weird Al, and SNL. They do what they do for money, but it's satire, so it's exempt from copyright infringement.
When I discovered Udio, I was fascinated and concerned at the same time. Just for fun I entered a prompt describing how the music that I want should sound like, the instruments, and just out of curiosity the name of my favourite group and the name of the lead singer. Of course Udio complained about the band name and the name of the singer and replaced the names by some other description. So I thought, OK, this doesn't work. But I tried it several times anyway, and some the music I got was quite similar to the group's music I entered the name of. But I thought it might be just coincidence. But after some more tries I got goosebumps: the singing voice I heard from the 30 seconds clip Udio had created did not only sound a bit similar to the real singer's voice. It sounded 100 % like him!! So I used Udio to create a whole song and played it to a mate, who's also a big fan of the group, not telling him, it's AI. I told him a completely made up story of an old track that got lost, and is now newly released. He totally bought it. He even started to guess, when this had been recorded according to the different styles of the real existing albums. Eventually I told him, that it's completely AI. And he was totally baffled. So, this is fascinating as I already said, but it's scary as well. I mean, I totally did this just for fun, just out of curiosity, and of course I have no intentions to make this stuff public, but it shows, that Udio is indeed capable of creating songs, that are more or less indistinguishable from the work of existing artists, even though they say, you can't do that. So, for now I totally understand, that there are legal actions taking place.
It's very funny you mention this because in my review of it and even in the title I mention that it was "scary" lol But totally agree with it that the fun factor is there for sure but when we start to go and use it in a way that can damage, change, or even make money from the artist, then it's another thing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out because of all these factors. I greatly appreciate the very thoughtful comment. Greatly appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative in any way! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
They expected to get sued, everybody in all areas of the digital realm is feeling threatened by AI and acting like a cat in a rabbit trap, its strange nobody cared when the lower classes lost their jobs because of technology, but now the upper class are all upset a computer can do as good or better work than they can so they want to be protected in a way where copywrite is not about copying but anything remotely near is not allowed, Suno and Udio have mountains of cash also so its a no holds barred fight and the line is a very big grey area to establish in law, imagine Winsor art supplies wanting Photoshop banned.
Change will happen. I guess sit just a matter of how much change and at what cost. But definitely interesting to see how this will play out between both parties. Appreciate your thoughtful feedback family. Greatful for you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires or motivated in any way to be creative! Blessings! 💯💯💯
the music ai companies are doomed. the same info that produces great "original" songs is the same data that can be use to generate existing songs....Ppl are recreating existing songs by using the certain prompts and lyrics. it shows clears as day the trained their machine on stolen data aka copy written music
We are gonna see how it all plays out in the end. I really think that it will be regulated on what we can and can't use. You can't get rid of it all together because then they could just make it open source and then that's a whole other beast. But let's see how this plays out. Appreciate the comment and for coming through and the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives to create. Blessings!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
This software ain't going anywhere, This is the same BS when Napster Kazaa, Limewire came on the scene all over again. AI is here to stay so adapt or sink.
I don't think that AI is going anywhere I think they will start to regulate what you can and can't do with the AI when it comes to works from other artist, music, etc. AInis too invested in what we do now to try and cut it out completely. Greatly appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel and for leaving a comment as well! Hope you were inspired or motivated to create! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
It wont be the record companies going after Suno and Udio, theyll definitely want a split of the profit. This will ALL be in Congresses hands. They have the rule of power, not the corporation.
Another interesting view point. I think I the end it is all about greed and who controls the power but let's see if it really benefits the artist protection from.thr companies or will it just be another way of controlling media and making more money. Appreciate the view point and thank you for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
For these cases against AI music to have a chance of success, concrete evidence of an exact replication of someone's voice or music, capturing every minute detail, is necessary. The rise of generative AI has brought to light the inner workings of corporations and the presence of elitism in society. Similar to how generative AI operates in visual art , it utilizes advanced neural networks and machine learning techniques to generate novel concepts by drawing from existing ideas. Understanding the inner workings of these neural networks is crucial rather than allowing complete control to be in the hands of these companies.
Appreciate that input and comment family. Definitely a topic the community is gonna be talking about for sure. Thank so much for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! 💯💯💯
The problem with those two companies is not AI itself but what they use for a reference for generating the music. They use catalog of major artists to generate new music. I don’t consider Splice create as AI I do use it. Now if under copyright law when you fill out a SR form the ask the question is this a derivative work. If somehow a digital mechanical license and statuary rate of co-authorship could be establish this might resolve itself
Thats exactly right and whats crazy is that can we ACTUALLY call is AI generated or just a curated playlist of variety of music. But I totally agree with this staement here. How would it be though when it comes to all that external and internal music generation. Will it be fair to say that we could possibly not have a resolve to this and it could be over???
@@ELLIOT8209I hear you family. But let's me challenge that.......is everything AI created in the sense of Udio and Suno all AI created? Loving the dialog by the way. I believe this is what it's all about! 💯
I think that this is gonna set that straight and we will see how it affects the game and how or what they will allow in the future. I appreciate you man for real. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
Of course this day would come, it's in the land of the lawsuit after all, but that means nothing and its not the end, it's the beginning! there is no stopping this beautiful crazy train now.
My Exquisite Brother! Woooooow, bro! Nice catch, you get me! 😯😯😯 Suno got some mighty many users, right? Wow, AI competition looks like a Tiger cage! Man, who other REALLY reviews what's going on in the Tech World Music-wise, than PULSE Music?!??!?! You know that every comment of mines got some spice to it, hehe, so check the joke section, right: Man, all is good, at least we know, we can kill the Robots with another Robots now! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
brother you just dont know.......so much has changed in the music production game and right now everything is about money. But even in choice selections, AI music, etc it really has shown how and what the company does and will do for that money! Appreciate you coming through and supporting family and for dropping a line. Thanks so much brother! I greatly appreciate that so much! Blessings!
Not sure family. We have to see what happens after all this. Appreciate the question and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Thats a good way to look at it. Would be nice to see if that actually happens and seeing two brands build together for a grater purpose. All in theory sounds awesome. Let's see what happens and how it plays out. Appreciate you coming through dropping a comment and checking out the vid and channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Lawsuit is just a lawsuit. They have to win the suit first. These companies are going to modify what they are doing. Ai is not going anywhere. You'll see...
I love the optimistic outlook family. I don't think it's going anywhere but I do think that they want to make a statement with this for the future companies and developers. We will see how it goes in the end. Appreciate that comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
If AI is not allowed in music production, then it should not be permitted in any music production, DAWs, etc. Because sound is recorded, whether it's by voice or instruments, how many different sounds can be made without them sounding similar? Other than drum beats, I write my lyrics and run a check to make sure they are original. Then, I process the songs through my sound equipment to avoid and bypass AI. I am now using my songs for personal enjoyment or sharing with family or friends.
It's definitely gonna be an interesting outlook for alot of producers that uses AI. I don't think it will be too much on the personal side but more so on the commercial end. The way you do it I don't think it's gonna be an issue but we will see how it happens. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives you to create! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@ScottBradley-gn2rd Thats an outlook that is valid. I have to be home and I have used ChatGPT but to help out with various ideas or things of that nature. I think that is ok. But as far as making money from it is another. I don't think it will go anywhere any time soon but it is always and will always be about control in the end. Appreciate you input and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I guess they just want money but won't stop it because that would get too complicated to make sense in relation to other products and overall AI development. And even if they stop it, it will otherwise break through soon after.
This is why I am interseted in seeing how this will be played out. For the BIG 3 and for us as the production community. Appreciate you coming through and dropping through the the comment and support family! Blessings!
Greetings. If you haven't seen my last comment, I've finally made my decision to what my 2nd DAW of choice is going to be. My 2nd DAW is going to be Cubase 13 Elements. Then later down the line. I'll upgrade to Cubase 13 Artist, If i want to upgrade, It's been a long & winding road for me to choose a 2nd DAW along with Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio. First was Reaper, Then was Cakewalk by Bandlab, THEN was Waveform Free. Those are great Digital Audio Workstations. But none of them are superb as Cubase 13, In my opinion. Easy workflow. Better MIDI editing, Amazing effects, A lightweight & compact 5GB orchestral library, No more dongle, etc. So overall. My decision is clear, Cubase is going to be my 2nd DAW of choice in the foreseeable future. It may be a LONG while to get Cubase 13 Elements, But the wait will be worth it for me to try it out.
WOW family! Welcome to the club! Cubase for life! I believe that this is the best way I think for you to move through and learn the DAW. You will do it eventually, but I am so glad that you came up with your final decision! I know it took a lot to decide. I appreciate you coming back and sharing family! Would love to see and hear what you make with it! Blessings!
I laugh because people forget AI won the last lawsuits. Why? Just as the guys, and two things, one there is no law against anyone or anything being trained on copyrighted materials every musician was trained from what, copyrighted music, next they will use these are still in Beta which they are, this means these are not completed tools,, oh and both just added a method to develop music from your own music or sounds, which shows the courts they are building tools for people to create and when you sign in, on both you are taking responsibility not to reproduce or use materials not your own and they have created blocks when you use a artist name, yes I use these tools and create original music as they are intended for, just because non creative individuals use a tool irresponsibly, should that punish ask the folks who use it like this ua-cam.com/video/WcdydohvXOM/v-deo.html
As the story is progressing it crazy to see what will happen with these companies and how much money they are willing to take from this. Because that's what this is all about. It should be the main focus of the protection for the artist works. But we will see. Greatly appreciate you comment and for coming through and checking out the vid! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I wonder if they can do whatever legally with for example - sampling parts of AI music into your beats. After buying pro plan in suno you have full rights to music you make (and to upload it to streaming platforms) and if you just make a song there it is not even with somebodys exact voice or lirycs, so big companies cant even do anything about it I think. Also the idea with sampling would be very useful for smaller artist who cant afford to clear a sample, so they can just make their own unique one
Good points family. Thanks for point out some of those key elements. Greatly appreciate you coming through and dropping a line on the vid and for checking out the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Blocking AI development is tricky legally. Ban one type, and you'll have to justify not banning others. The real question is: who'll control and profit from future AIs? AI is inevitable, and whoever owns the best ones will likely become wealthy.
That's true. And this is why it's interesting to see how it plays out because you can ban it but you can regulate it and of course that comes with stipulations. But we will see what happens. Definitely will effect the producer community either way. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
So when the exact thing happened in the art world who gave a beep, artists styles can be used instantly, want your work to have Dali flavour no probs… hey I thought this is cool… rethink wondered if my work has been used nar surely not am an unknown artist… wrong 6 of my paintings have been copied into the AI machine… can I do anything about it… hell no… so why the difference with music? I use Udio with my own poetry and feed it my own created beats then it spits out something wild… do I want sound like Drake or any other known artist shit no!
Totally get your point. I believe inspiration comes for a lot of things and that is fine. Their is no crime in being inspired and motivated through different mediums of works. It's when you use it to make money and then taking people originals works and making it your own. That's when I believe its wrong. Hip Hop is a great example of taking works but re creating them. So AI is really no huge difference in that matter but the community I believe wants respect for original works and not just stealing the entire works from an artist. I think that's fair. Great points and thank for taking the time to post that and your feelings behind it. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel as well. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
As somebody who finds AI taking over in some of the artistic fields more depressing than uplifting I welcome this. But I know I am in the minority and that many people are for an AI takeover too.
I guess I'm an old fashioned type of guy. Not that I don't like or not understand change because change is inevitable (Mr Smith voice, lol) But I never really used it in any of my productions so if it's here or not I won't miss it it's gone. I love the fact of being blir to craft and create music from scratch but again I'm old school. This is what I call a microwave generation that's wants everything quick with minimalist work involved. But it's cool to have fun with for me. That's about it. Greatly appreciate this comment family and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Oh man. That's hard right here. You gonna cause some people to not like that statement, lol lol lol But I get your reasoning. I don't use it at all for anything in music but I understand why it has the dislikes. Like I said in the tread previous, I'm old fashioned so I guess this is me too in a way, lol Appreciate the comment family! 💯💯💯
This sounds like a mic drop moment family. Only time will tell if the community and corporations will feel the same of different all together. Appreciate the input and comment. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
It's all good family lol Make sure your notifications are turned on and you should get them then. I appreciate you playing catch up with them all though, lol Seems like you had quite a few huh, lol Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I like sampling and remixing AI, I like using it to practice working on materials for mixing and mastering. Again I support freedom to use technology. I'm not a capitalist though, I think humanism and supporting things that enhance the human experience is the natural law that we should follow. I think that they you know can provide a medium to sue people who who publically release music that is copyrighted but the situation would be better served by using mediums like Content ID to scan produced. They arn't intentionally copying artists as they block artists names from being used for generation of content. I think it is all transformative. I havn't heard anything that was made that was a copy of another song that I have heard before. The content I make is descriptive like instruments genres, and I often will add my own lyrics that I make myself. I consider this essentially more like producing and cowriting. I think there are really two different things going on 1st there is the generation part which I don't think should be considered copyright infringement because it doesn't actually copy the works, there is a fundamental lack of understanding that LLMs don't copy sounds or structures, they copy data structures and reproduce data structures based on training not of one song but many many songs. There does appear to be an issue that the weighting of some words that are more unique such as an artist name which is blocked or a tag that is unique and limited in use that it will be more similar to that artist because there arn't many examples of what is being requested so there is more weight but that is a bit like saying make a song that sounds like this person indirectly through a unique tag they use.. imo this is not the service but rather the prompt engineer who is picking terms that are weighted heavily. With content ID there should be an easier way of embedding the tags used to generate that content a bit like unique tokens for things like online graphics NFTs etc.. Ultimately the intent of the services are transformative use of the whole corpus of music, it just happens that the major labels control a large amount of the access of professional music, and they have created a landscape that makes their artists have a higher weighting in what people can access on major listening platforms. So in a way the labels have engineered the likelyhood that AI will sound like their artists do because they are pushing the artists to have the most awareness. Based on my understanding of how the systems work I wouldn't consider there any intentional copyright infringement, it is all innocent infringement that is accidental where it does occur by a prompt being so restrictive as to pinpoint unique traits. However that is not the intent of the service, they just have no awareness of what prompts will trigger a heavily weighted response. I think perhaps they might tweak the algorythm to have some way of understanding common vs uncommon or rare keywords. Again I don't think the event is malicious at all. However I can sound like another artist with a piano it doesn't make the piano illegal, but if I publish a song I make with that piano that sounds like someone elses protected work then it is a basis for a claim of infringement. Also how has it actually affected the value of artists works have sales dropped. I think that this is a new medium of engaging with music its not really a competing market. Much like writing your own story isn't the same as reading someone elses story they are productive vs receptive mediums. I do think actual publishing or broadcast is something that should be the point so I think songs that are in the "listening" stream. I think it is fair to treat suno or others much like youtube or google that if there is a claim for infringement or a DCMA then this might have a similar DCMA process. I consider a $150,000 per case to be a little ridiculous since the audience is 1 person unless that person shares it but personally I still havn't heard anything I've made that sounds like another song I have heard before and I listen to a lot of music. I don't license to listen to my music although I do pay for some sample services for royalty free use some of which sound a bit like other songs. Its just them trying to shut down something that eats away at their monopoly. And the fact a large chunk of the big labels music sucks, and ai might actually start making music better than their signed artists content which are 90% branding 10% content.
WOW! That's a lot of information to digest at one time family lol lol lol But this is one reason why I love doing these videos to open up discuss and have understanding among the production community. You meantion alot of valid points but it's all up to now this will play out and how much the companies will do to get the results or the lack there of. Thank you so much for coming through taking the time to check out the vid and the channel! Humbled and greatful! Hope the rest of the channel inspires and motives to create in anyway. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Yes thanks for keeping the discussion goings its pretty obvious that most people are aligned against AI but its mostly for selfish reasons not legitimate legal reasons imo.
I'm neutral on this pretty much because I don't use it but I did review it and saw the potential of what it could do for the production community. Just trying to be fair since I don't even use it. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I do believe that family and also that the want to capitalize on the movement. I don't doubt that. But we also need a way to protect the artists that they also use or might go by. I do believe there is a way to meet both but greed rules. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
See I think the thing is that people like things to be instant like grits and don't want to work for the accomplishment and satisfaction of saying they completed something from scratch. I appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motivates to create family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Thats the whole thing. I think it was cool when it was used for personal and not commercial use. What sparked this I think is the track that Merto Boomin did "BBL Drizzy" and because it made some serious numbers things had to get looked at on another level. It had too. And because the BIG 3 numbers are about numbers they wasnt gonna let this slide. Appreciate you as always for the input brother! We gonna see how this goe. i think its over in the commercial sense maybe. But we will see. Blessings!
@@PULSEMusicGroup Well I could kinda see this coming, I pretty sure I was commenting on AI videos that these services where literally cutting and chopping up actual music and or lyrics straight from Spotify, and it was not original content. I'm actually happy to see AI music being slowed or shut down, it was over hyped and should never of been taken seriously. People really believed that these AI was generating original music, which it never was, but thats just My two cents. I appreciate you brother.
Man, I was kinda in the loop a little with that in the thinking it was generating it "own" sound. That's what it supposed to be right, lol But its all good. That's why I love these dialogs and conversations. You guys keep me on my toes, lol 💯💯💯
Only those who know will know. And we wait for the final results. Honestly we almost now what its gonna but still we wait, lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel family! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
nope .... the training of the sounds were not created with copy written material. The greedy record companies just don't want the common musicians to have a slice of their pie...hell the are hard prressed to share with the contracted artist on their lable.
That's not all together true family. It has been number of accounts where either the people or the artist themselves have shared testimony of finding there stuff beimg currated. We will see how these things work out in the end but who knows. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup oh I don’t doubt that at all…the challenge will be proving it in a court of law…and showing how you were damaged by the transgression. Both applications aggressively warn about obvious copyright infringement possibly passing that hot potato instantly to the user.
@@kirbythecomputerguy7610I agree. It's gonna have to come do to what can be proved in a court of law and you know the big boys gonna look for loop holes for sure to try and get the case. Appreciate the dialog family. I'm really interested in seeing how this gonna play out in the end. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Yeah no doubt brother. Gonna be interesting to see how the end of this goes especially for how much money they gonna atru and take from the pot. They snt take out AI but they will try to drain it financially for sure. Appreciate you coming through and supporting man. Always dope when you come through! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I don't think it's good at all because now record companies are suing Suno and Udio, These companies have been training there own Super Computers to make music using Copyright in the end that's competition for Producer's, like we don't always have some kind of issue anyway
That's an interesting point family. All in all it's gonna be about who has the bigger pockets and who can control what when it comes to this AI situation in the music industry. Everything has to do with that I believe. I know AI isn't going anywhere because everyone and their grandmother is using it. But we will see in the end with this and how it goes. Greatly appreciate the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I never have honestly either except for that time I did the video, lol I dont really see the need for me because I'm super creative 24/7 but you know that. It's gonna be crazy seeing how this gonna play out. Appreciate you as always brother. 💯💯💯
You sound like you wasnt even curious brother, lol lol lol I love it! I was the same way when it comes to producing. Like I said in the channel its only because we had to go over it because it was music news.
@@ZomBearzAwww don't say it like that family lol smh. To loss something means I have to have had it in the first place. I never use AI so I am not upset but I am an artist and I understand how this plays out of the community doesn't have protection. There are AI ge seated things in almost everything so it's not about taking out AI for me but about having boundaries of that makes sense. Appreciate the input and coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I don't believe they will shut it down either but they will try to get a piece of the pie for sure! Apprciate you coming through and dropping a comment family! Thanks so much! Blessings!
Meh. The technology is here to stay though. UVR5 will continue to be perfect - if that even makes sense to all of you. I want to make fresh new albums of posthumously dead artists like a new Gerald and Sean Levert or a new Grand Daddy I.U. album! How cool is that?
Oh no doubt that's true. But to the extent of mere admiration or to also pocket your works of that album? I think that's where the issues are. To make money off of those that are no longer here would be fair I think to the estate of those people. And that's were I understand the lawsuit. But as far as doing it for fun, for personal, or even non monitized productions then of course that's awesome! Been a min too by the way. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Not really that cool. It wouldn't actually be you making anything. AI music is more akin to a kid pushing the McNuggets button on a touchscreen kiosk and waiting for the nuggets to be delivered.
@@JSMCPN I would be producing it, not composing it. The fact it already exists means I could never compose it, only manipulate it - technically sampling and re-producing it. Get your discernment of disagreements together. Move around.
@@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY Hardly counts as production either. Your involvement in the overall process, short of marketing, would be practically nil. "Tupperware salesman" is more like it. You place an order for product from the factory, wait for it to arrive, slap your logo on it, and try to get rid of it quickly.
This is one of the reasons why I love to produce and go from scratch. Even if sampling I try to make sure to choo it to oblivion lol But we will see how they play this out. Appreciate as always Ken. Hope all is well with you and you are enjoying the summer so far. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Eso es droga. Solo tenga cuidado al publicarlos en la familia de plataformas. Cuando se comparte entre tu familia y amigos es genial, pero cuando se vuelve rentable y, digamos, explota, entonces tendrás algo en tus manos. No es que vengan por la gente pequeña, pero nunca se sabe. ¡Agradezco el comentario y por pasar y ver el video y el canal! ¡Bendiciones! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Totally understand family. I do however appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Thanks for the comment! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Very true. I just mentioned to another subscriber about how even plugin use AI assistant to help in the creation process. I believe that is fine and nothing is wrong with that. However you do have where people are using artist works, voices, and even their creations and that is not right. But we will see how this plays out because they can't stop it but they will try to get as much money from it as possible IMO. Greatly appreciate the input and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Have you guys used Suno and Udio AI? What are your thoughts about it?
Bro, concerning music, in reality, I am just as in spirituality - Orthodox, no matter the Religion, you get me. Meaning, you know that Music Organically Produced, is actually something as an invisible beat-maker track, which was born within humans from the very start. I think, bruv bruv, that organically, even errors, are sometimes extremely successful, you already know. Jazz? Ask whatever A.I. to "fix" Jazz?
BUT
A.I. is a helpful tool!
You could call Suno somehow Mainstream.
They got userbase and database, sir.
Udio is lighter and ofcourse, as competition, it offers a variety of functions.
And ofcourse the spice part again:
IF YOU PERSONALLY, try to fix Jazz with A.I., although an enemy, THEN I DON'T WANT PEACE! I WANT PROBLEM! ALWAYS! AND I will personally call CARL MALONE THE POSTEMAN to deal with you! 🤣😂🤣😂
p.s.: You want your music to be A REAL SAY?
PULSE Music -> SUB, BELL, AND DON'T YOU DELAY!
It's the thing that makes me realize we are living in the future. It's 'so much fun' to me. But I think I am very aware of the power of words and it seems like I can use that awareness/power. Magic. On the other hand, the toy seems to make better music than humans just by its own (with almost any words). Maybe it's matching my taste of music so much because of 'the way I am' (dadaism, happenstance, variety...). I'm speaking about Udio.
It's such a pleasure to make this journey of extending those 30 more seconds. I wish I had more time for this. The realm of possibilities is so intense, it's like a new childhood.
I feel like I'm born for this. I used to want to become a DJ but I started making music but I somehow only made experiments. Now I can find music with no human restricting character imprint and at the same time somehow be the creator of it - in-between DJ and music experiments. Exactly what I want... so far (not knowing what might come soon). It can even do stand-up comedy and somehow understand or mimic all emotions and micro contexts...(?) - somehow more human than (most) human (?)
Udio is just the closest thing to god that ever existed / currently exists in this world, I swear to Udio.
Appreciate the love brother. Thanks for the support and continuous love! Right back at you! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
That's a very strong statement right there family. I wouldnt say I swear to it . I understand it's capabilities and what it can and possibly do. But it's also perception and opinion for alot of folks. The dialog on here is awesome and I love it. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feeling on the subject! 💯💯💯
Suno will win! I don't have any doubt there. I think the labels need to be put in their place, they've controlled the industry way too long. Change is coming, embrace it or don't, but I have no doubt better music will hit the waves because most of the crap that is being produced today is not very good. I see a rise of lyricists / songwriters coming out of the blue and creating some amazing stuff. Either way it won't diminish those that deserve to be heard, if you got good stuff, people will hear it. the cream always rises to the top.
Ok family. I can see and understand why you feel that way and find some value in your comment. I do embrace change and I don't want the companies to make more money off of us but I do want us to all be protected and valued for our creation. In that, we need to find a medium. Appreciate your comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Great dialog! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
this aint it...If these companies win musicians are doomed....Whatever you think the cream of the crop is it will just be copied by a.i. the day it is released. The following week hundreds if not thousands of songs sounding like "the cream of the crop" will be available for prompting
@@bobby4f I have to disagree, not with social media. Current interest in music is trending down. There needs to be a shift and a change to reignite interest in art. A smart MUSICIAN would utilize these platforms to enhance their writing process and hone their craft to make better music; this is a tool just like anything else. And speaking outside the "Musician" aspect, it's a gift for humanity to enhance music in general, but there are limitations, and there WILL ALWAYS be room for people to create unique and great stuff. A song can go viral, yes, and people will listen whether it's AI or not, but there will always be the personality attraction between humans that will always reign supreme, which is something AI will never accomplish. And by the way, it's not copied; that's not how it works. Sure, you can have a chance to have creative overlap, just like the real world, but I'm sure if anything, this will push them to have more safeguards to ensure no one can manipulate the prompts, use copyrighted vocals, and such.
The cream will not come to the top. In fact musicians who have put decades in their craft and played guitar for 15-20 years and piano lovers producing masterpieces now a prompt can do that. We are lowering the greatness of this craft. Music is divine and a bunch of Zeroes and One. It's best left Humans be the only decoders of it.
@@jayded Interesting feedback family...................Thank you for your persepctive on this seriously! Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and channel! Blessings!
Nothing is going to happen to them. They'll go scott free just like OpenAI and Midjourney did after their own lawsuits.
Sounds pretty solid. We just have to wait to see who's pockets are bigger, smh lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope you were inspired or motivated in anyway. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
As they should. Creators are tired of worrying about copyright infringement. Let non musicians make their own music! The music industry is afraid. They have too much power.
@@m4sgtjeffy547That a valid point. And seeing that they had that power this could be easy to say that this is a flex of that to gain more control??? Appreciate that outlook and feedback. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroupI appreciate the content! 🤘
@@m4sydjrI just wanted to thank you for just coming through and really dialoging on the vid and discussing. Thisnis the part I really enjoy in the production community. 💯💯💯
They won’t get shut down. The labels will make a deal for revenue sharing and take part of the profits.
At the end of the day that is what i also think will eventually happen. They will devise a way to make both side profit and all of this would have been for nothing smh. Greatly appreciate your comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motives you family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
RIAA only represents the labels. The producer community needs it own lobby
That's been since day one and not just in case like this where the community needs representation but we need to have a solidified front for the production community. As always though some be on the everyman for himself, smh.
Once it gets open source and is distributed on the internet the industry will go down.
I keep seeing comments saying the it will go open source which is fine but is that an actual benefit for the community and for us as a while on a broader spectrum? It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the long game. But mostly it will be about more money than anything. Hopefully not but we will see. Appreciate i put and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
If the sites are shut down, the technology becomes free and open source. The cat is out of the bag at this point.
That's a good point family. Will be interesting to see if they actually let that happen though. It's gonna be a fight for sure. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope you like the vibe! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
the technology is already free and open source thats how suno and udio started in the first place.
@@dagga07I think being free wasnt more so the issue but what could be used in that free open source for the community. I value to protect the artist and allow the community to actually have "real" AI generated sources and we go from there. Appreciate and love the input family. 💯💯💯
@@dagga07 yea but if companies aren't allowed to make a profit from it then someone will release it for free. It's like when they shut down Napster and then Lime wire and other download sites started popping up. They couldn't stop it from happening.
Great point family.......didnt even think about that one. And you right they didn't stop it but it did fizzle out though. So we will see how it goes. But definitely and valid point. 💯💯💯
A style can't be copyrighted. A voice can't be copyrighted. Case closed?
True but the things that are "AI" isn't AI if it's original and have been curated and selected from the jump. Read through some of the comments and you will see what I'm talking about. It's gonna be a long fight for this one but an interesting topic to discuss. Appreciate the input family. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup I may have simplified it a bit. If it's a crime I hope they are very careful so it does not affect artists in a negative way. That we can still sound like other artists and be inspired by their style.
@@jenstornellI do agree with you on that case. I think it's fun like I said in the video to do it for personal uses. When it becomes commercial and starts making money they that different. Imagine your music and lyrics being used and another person is getting paid for your words, voice and music. In that example I agree to protect. But the BIG 3 are using that as a plot twist to say but they want the money honestly. 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Agree, I think. I still think we should be able to be inspired by a style for professional work. Else almost all new music are in danger. Everything we do is inspired by something else. But copying stuff like lyrics or samples is something else. For that we have copyright laws in place already.
If you get some traffic on this, maybe you can cover the outcome of this when it's over. It's interesting to hear different point of views.
@@jenstornellI totally agree with you on that. I will be making sure to do we this and put up results as they come. The dialog is really good on this topic so I definitely will be updating. Appreciate you and for the dialog on the topic! 💯💯💯
Didn't we all train our ears and minds to appreciate music by listening to other artists? Could any of us have created music that have never heard commercial recordings before? Music has fads that everyone copies, like the twangy pop guitar songs of the 60's, the sax solos of the 80's, the croaky vocals of today (which I can't stand)? Just because AI trains on it, doesn't mean that they're faithfully and unfairly duplicating the beats, melodies, and vocals. All decent artists can expect to have their styles copied by other artists, just don't duplicate the music. Also, keep in mind that comedy or satire is fair use of copyrighted materials. Stuff like Weird Al, and SNL. They do what they do for money, but it's satire, so it's exempt from copyright infringement.
Appreciate your input and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Greatly appreciate it hat alot. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
When I discovered Udio, I was fascinated and concerned at the same time. Just for fun I entered a prompt describing how the music that I want should sound like, the instruments, and just out of curiosity the name of my favourite group and the name of the lead singer. Of course Udio complained about the band name and the name of the singer and replaced the names by some other description. So I thought, OK, this doesn't work. But I tried it several times anyway, and some the music I got was quite similar to the group's music I entered the name of. But I thought it might be just coincidence.
But after some more tries I got goosebumps: the singing voice I heard from the 30 seconds clip Udio had created did not only sound a bit similar to the real singer's voice. It sounded 100 % like him!! So I used Udio to create a whole song and played it to a mate, who's also a big fan of the group, not telling him, it's AI. I told him a completely made up story of an old track that got lost, and is now newly released. He totally bought it. He even started to guess, when this had been recorded according to the different styles of the real existing albums.
Eventually I told him, that it's completely AI. And he was totally baffled.
So, this is fascinating as I already said, but it's scary as well. I mean, I totally did this just for fun, just out of curiosity, and of course I have no intentions to make this stuff public, but it shows, that Udio is indeed capable of creating songs, that are more or less indistinguishable from the work of existing artists, even though they say, you can't do that.
So, for now I totally understand, that there are legal actions taking place.
It's very funny you mention this because in my review of it and even in the title I mention that it was "scary" lol But totally agree with it that the fun factor is there for sure but when we start to go and use it in a way that can damage, change, or even make money from the artist, then it's another thing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out because of all these factors. I greatly appreciate the very thoughtful comment. Greatly appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motivates you to be creative in any way! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
lets hope suno wins because they are democratising music
In due time family. In due time. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
They expected to get sued, everybody in all areas of the digital realm is feeling threatened by AI and acting like a cat in a rabbit trap, its strange nobody cared when the lower classes lost their jobs because of technology, but now the upper class are all upset a computer can do as good or better work than they can so they want to be protected in a way where copywrite is not about copying but anything remotely near is not allowed, Suno and Udio have mountains of cash also so its a no holds barred fight and the line is a very big grey area to establish in law, imagine Winsor art supplies wanting Photoshop banned.
Change will happen. I guess sit just a matter of how much change and at what cost. But definitely interesting to see how this will play out between both parties. Appreciate your thoughtful feedback family. Greatful for you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires or motivated in any way to be creative! Blessings! 💯💯💯
the music ai companies are doomed. the same info that produces great "original" songs is the same data that can be use to generate existing songs....Ppl are recreating existing songs by using the certain prompts and lyrics. it shows clears as day the trained their machine on stolen data aka copy written music
We are gonna see how it all plays out in the end. I really think that it will be regulated on what we can and can't use. You can't get rid of it all together because then they could just make it open source and then that's a whole other beast. But let's see how this plays out. Appreciate the comment and for coming through and the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives to create. Blessings!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
It' s a thing too big to be closed,they will be always and will develop with time,is the future.
Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Thanks so much for your input. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
This software ain't going anywhere, This is the same BS when Napster Kazaa, Limewire came on the scene all over again. AI is here to stay so adapt or sink.
I don't think that AI is going anywhere I think they will start to regulate what you can and can't do with the AI when it comes to works from other artist, music, etc. AInis too invested in what we do now to try and cut it out completely. Greatly appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel and for leaving a comment as well! Hope you were inspired or motivated to create! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
It wont be the record companies going after Suno and Udio, theyll definitely want a split of the profit.
This will ALL be in Congresses hands. They have the rule of power, not the corporation.
Another interesting view point. I think I the end it is all about greed and who controls the power but let's see if it really benefits the artist protection from.thr companies or will it just be another way of controlling media and making more money. Appreciate the view point and thank you for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
For these cases against AI music to have a chance of success, concrete evidence of an exact replication of someone's voice or music, capturing every minute detail, is necessary. The rise of generative AI has brought to light the inner workings of corporations and the presence of elitism in society. Similar to how generative AI operates in visual art , it utilizes advanced neural networks and machine learning techniques to generate novel concepts by drawing from existing ideas. Understanding the inner workings of these neural networks is crucial rather than allowing complete control to be in the hands of these companies.
Appreciate that input and comment family. Definitely a topic the community is gonna be talking about for sure. Thank so much for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! 💯💯💯
As an experienced person in this music industry please make such videos about AI music usage you are a eyeopener,
Greatly appreciate the feedback fsmily. Thanks so much for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
The problem with those two companies is not AI itself but what they use for a reference for generating the music. They use catalog of major artists to generate new music. I don’t consider Splice create as AI I do use it. Now if under copyright law when you fill out a SR form the ask the question is this a derivative work. If somehow a digital mechanical license and statuary rate of co-authorship could be establish this might resolve itself
Thats exactly right and whats crazy is that can we ACTUALLY call is AI generated or just a curated playlist of variety of music. But I totally agree with this staement here. How would it be though when it comes to all that external and internal music generation. Will it be fair to say that we could possibly not have a resolve to this and it could be over???
@@PULSEMusicGrouphumans also make music based on what they have been listening to. AI is based on our model. The difference is the technology
@@ELLIOT8209I hear you family. But let's me challenge that.......is everything AI created in the sense of Udio and Suno all AI created? Loving the dialog by the way. I believe this is what it's all about! 💯
At the end of day congress needs to pass new law
I think that this is gonna set that straight and we will see how it affects the game and how or what they will allow in the future. I appreciate you man for real. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup look up the documentary how music became free. The RIAA lawsuits don’t always play out like they hope
I know. Only time will tell now and what they do with this. It's definitely gonna be a long drawn out battle for sure. I can believe that. 💯
American government moves so slow...The U.k. already ruled it illegal to train a.i. on copy written material
Of course this day would come, it's in the land of the lawsuit after all, but that means nothing and its not the end, it's the beginning! there is no stopping this beautiful crazy train now.
I hear you family! This is gonna be a battle for sure. Appreciate the comment! Hope to like the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
My Exquisite Brother!
Woooooow, bro! Nice catch, you get me! 😯😯😯
Suno got some mighty many users, right? Wow, AI competition looks like a Tiger cage!
Man, who other REALLY reviews what's going on in the Tech World Music-wise, than PULSE Music?!??!?!
You know that every comment of mines got some spice to it, hehe, so check the joke section, right:
Man, all is good, at least we know, we can kill the Robots with another Robots now! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
brother you just dont know.......so much has changed in the music production game and right now everything is about money. But even in choice selections, AI music, etc it really has shown how and what the company does and will do for that money! Appreciate you coming through and supporting family and for dropping a line. Thanks so much brother! I greatly appreciate that so much! Blessings!
Does this mean the website will be taken down? Or just limited with restrictions ?
Not sure family. We have to see what happens after all this. Appreciate the question and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
The answer? Both companies need to open source there, models, and ASAP… They’ll find another way to monetize.
Thats a good way to look at it. Would be nice to see if that actually happens and seeing two brands build together for a grater purpose. All in theory sounds awesome. Let's see what happens and how it plays out. Appreciate you coming through dropping a comment and checking out the vid and channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Lawsuit is just a lawsuit. They have to win the suit first. These companies are going to modify what they are doing. Ai is not going anywhere. You'll see...
I love the optimistic outlook family. I don't think it's going anywhere but I do think that they want to make a statement with this for the future companies and developers. We will see how it goes in the end. Appreciate that comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
If AI is not allowed in music production, then it should not be permitted in any music production, DAWs, etc. Because sound is recorded, whether it's by voice or instruments, how many different sounds can be made without them sounding similar? Other than drum beats, I write my lyrics and run a check to make sure they are original. Then, I process the songs through my sound equipment to avoid and bypass AI. I am now using my songs for personal enjoyment or sharing with family or friends.
It's definitely gonna be an interesting outlook for alot of producers that uses AI. I don't think it will be too much on the personal side but more so on the commercial end. The way you do it I don't think it's gonna be an issue but we will see how it happens. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives you to create! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Generative AI (chatGPT) should be illegal
@@ScottBradley-gn2rd Thats an outlook that is valid. I have to be home and I have used ChatGPT but to help out with various ideas or things of that nature. I think that is ok. But as far as making money from it is another. I don't think it will go anywhere any time soon but it is always and will always be about control in the end. Appreciate you input and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I guess they just want money but won't stop it because that would get too complicated to make sense in relation to other products and overall AI development. And even if they stop it, it will otherwise break through soon after.
This is why I am interseted in seeing how this will be played out. For the BIG 3 and for us as the production community. Appreciate you coming through and dropping through the the comment and support family! Blessings!
Finally some action!!
We gonna see how it plays out. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Greetings. If you haven't seen my last comment, I've finally made my decision to what my 2nd DAW of choice is going to be.
My 2nd DAW is going to be Cubase 13 Elements.
Then later down the line. I'll upgrade to Cubase 13 Artist, If i want to upgrade, It's been a long & winding road for me to choose a 2nd DAW along with Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio.
First was Reaper, Then was Cakewalk by Bandlab, THEN was Waveform Free.
Those are great Digital Audio Workstations. But none of them are superb as Cubase 13, In my opinion.
Easy workflow. Better MIDI editing, Amazing effects, A lightweight & compact 5GB orchestral library, No more dongle, etc.
So overall. My decision is clear, Cubase is going to be my 2nd DAW of choice in the foreseeable future. It may be a LONG while to get Cubase 13 Elements, But the wait will be worth it for me to try it out.
WOW family! Welcome to the club! Cubase for life! I believe that this is the best way I think for you to move through and learn the DAW. You will do it eventually, but I am so glad that you came up with your final decision! I know it took a lot to decide. I appreciate you coming back and sharing family! Would love to see and hear what you make with it! Blessings!
I laugh because people forget AI won the last lawsuits. Why? Just as the guys, and two things, one there is no law against anyone or anything being trained on copyrighted materials every musician was trained from what, copyrighted music, next they will use these are still in Beta which they are, this means these are not completed tools,, oh and both just added a method to develop music from your own music or sounds, which shows the courts they are building tools for people to create and when you sign in, on both you are taking responsibility not to reproduce or use materials not your own and they have created blocks when you use a artist name, yes I use these tools and create original music as they are intended for, just because non creative individuals use a tool irresponsibly, should that punish ask the folks who use it like this
ua-cam.com/video/WcdydohvXOM/v-deo.html
Appreciate that input family! Only time will tell how this plays out with the BIG 3. Thanks for coming through the channel and sharing! Blessings!
Based on history, they will not ready as what happened with earlier confrontation with napster and co
As the story is progressing it crazy to see what will happen with these companies and how much money they are willing to take from this. Because that's what this is all about. It should be the main focus of the protection for the artist works. But we will see. Greatly appreciate you comment and for coming through and checking out the vid! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I was hoping RIAA was a new AI music generator. I am also looking forward to Eleven Labs’ new service.
Lol no it's not family, lol But good way to start something though, lol 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
I wonder if they can do whatever legally with for example - sampling parts of AI music into your beats. After buying pro plan in suno you have full rights to music you make (and to upload it to streaming platforms) and if you just make a song there it is not even with somebodys exact voice or lirycs, so big companies cant even do anything about it I think. Also the idea with sampling would be very useful for smaller artist who cant afford to clear a sample, so they can just make their own unique one
Good points family. Thanks for point out some of those key elements. Greatly appreciate you coming through and dropping a line on the vid and for checking out the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Blocking AI development is tricky legally. Ban one type, and you'll have to justify not banning others. The real question is: who'll control and profit from future AIs? AI is inevitable, and whoever owns the best ones will likely become wealthy.
That's true. And this is why it's interesting to see how it plays out because you can ban it but you can regulate it and of course that comes with stipulations. But we will see what happens. Definitely will effect the producer community either way. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Hope it inspires and motives you to be creative! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
So when the exact thing happened in the art world who gave a beep, artists styles can be used instantly, want your work to have Dali flavour no probs… hey I thought this is cool… rethink wondered if my work has been used nar surely not am an unknown artist… wrong 6 of my paintings have been copied into the AI machine… can I do anything about it… hell no… so why the difference with music? I use Udio with my own poetry and feed it my own created beats then it spits out something wild… do I want sound like Drake or any other known artist shit no!
Totally get your point. I believe inspiration comes for a lot of things and that is fine. Their is no crime in being inspired and motivated through different mediums of works. It's when you use it to make money and then taking people originals works and making it your own. That's when I believe its wrong. Hip Hop is a great example of taking works but re creating them. So AI is really no huge difference in that matter but the community I believe wants respect for original works and not just stealing the entire works from an artist. I think that's fair. Great points and thank for taking the time to post that and your feelings behind it. Thanks for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel as well. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
TOO.LATE.
Pretty much done huh lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel family. Blessings! 💯💯💯
As somebody who finds AI taking over in some of the artistic fields more depressing than uplifting I welcome this. But I know I am in the minority and that many people are for an AI takeover too.
I guess I'm an old fashioned type of guy. Not that I don't like or not understand change because change is inevitable (Mr Smith voice, lol) But I never really used it in any of my productions so if it's here or not I won't miss it it's gone. I love the fact of being blir to craft and create music from scratch but again I'm old school. This is what I call a microwave generation that's wants everything quick with minimalist work involved. But it's cool to have fun with for me. That's about it. Greatly appreciate this comment family and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I can't stand AI
Oh man. That's hard right here. You gonna cause some people to not like that statement, lol lol lol But I get your reasoning. I don't use it at all for anything in music but I understand why it has the dislikes. Like I said in the tread previous, I'm old fashioned so I guess this is me too in a way, lol Appreciate the comment family! 💯💯💯
The word train is being used in place of steal.
This sounds like a mic drop moment family. Only time will tell if the community and corporations will feel the same of different all together. Appreciate the input and comment. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Idk why UA-cam been hiding it videos from me. I'm glad they're being sued
It's all good family lol Make sure your notifications are turned on and you should get them then. I appreciate you playing catch up with them all though, lol Seems like you had quite a few huh, lol Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I like sampling and remixing AI, I like using it to practice working on materials for mixing and mastering. Again I support freedom to use technology. I'm not a capitalist though, I think humanism and supporting things that enhance the human experience is the natural law that we should follow. I think that they you know can provide a medium to sue people who who publically release music that is copyrighted but the situation would be better served by using mediums like Content ID to scan produced. They arn't intentionally copying artists as they block artists names from being used for generation of content. I think it is all transformative. I havn't heard anything that was made that was a copy of another song that I have heard before. The content I make is descriptive like instruments genres, and I often will add my own lyrics that I make myself. I consider this essentially more like producing and cowriting. I think there are really two different things going on 1st there is the generation part which I don't think should be considered copyright infringement because it doesn't actually copy the works, there is a fundamental lack of understanding that LLMs don't copy sounds or structures, they copy data structures and reproduce data structures based on training not of one song but many many songs. There does appear to be an issue that the weighting of some words that are more unique such as an artist name which is blocked or a tag that is unique and limited in use that it will be more similar to that artist because there arn't many examples of what is being requested so there is more weight but that is a bit like saying make a song that sounds like this person indirectly through a unique tag they use.. imo this is not the service but rather the prompt engineer who is picking terms that are weighted heavily. With content ID there should be an easier way of embedding the tags used to generate that content a bit like unique tokens for things like online graphics NFTs etc.. Ultimately the intent of the services are transformative use of the whole corpus of music, it just happens that the major labels control a large amount of the access of professional music, and they have created a landscape that makes their artists have a higher weighting in what people can access on major listening platforms. So in a way the labels have engineered the likelyhood that AI will sound like their artists do because they are pushing the artists to have the most awareness. Based on my understanding of how the systems work I wouldn't consider there any intentional copyright infringement, it is all innocent infringement that is accidental where it does occur by a prompt being so restrictive as to pinpoint unique traits. However that is not the intent of the service, they just have no awareness of what prompts will trigger a heavily weighted response. I think perhaps they might tweak the algorythm to have some way of understanding common vs uncommon or rare keywords. Again I don't think the event is malicious at all. However I can sound like another artist with a piano it doesn't make the piano illegal, but if I publish a song I make with that piano that sounds like someone elses protected work then it is a basis for a claim of infringement. Also how has it actually affected the value of artists works have sales dropped. I think that this is a new medium of engaging with music its not really a competing market. Much like writing your own story isn't the same as reading someone elses story they are productive vs receptive mediums. I do think actual publishing or broadcast is something that should be the point so I think songs that are in the "listening" stream. I think it is fair to treat suno or others much like youtube or google that if there is a claim for infringement or a DCMA then this might have a similar DCMA process. I consider a $150,000 per case to be a little ridiculous since the audience is 1 person unless that person shares it but personally I still havn't heard anything I've made that sounds like another song I have heard before and I listen to a lot of music. I don't license to listen to my music although I do pay for some sample services for royalty free use some of which sound a bit like other songs. Its just them trying to shut down something that eats away at their monopoly. And the fact a large chunk of the big labels music sucks, and ai might actually start making music better than their signed artists content which are 90% branding 10% content.
WOW! That's a lot of information to digest at one time family lol lol lol But this is one reason why I love doing these videos to open up discuss and have understanding among the production community. You meantion alot of valid points but it's all up to now this will play out and how much the companies will do to get the results or the lack there of. Thank you so much for coming through taking the time to check out the vid and the channel! Humbled and greatful! Hope the rest of the channel inspires and motives to create in anyway. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Yes thanks for keeping the discussion goings its pretty obvious that most people are aligned against AI but its mostly for selfish reasons not legitimate legal reasons imo.
I'm neutral on this pretty much because I don't use it but I did review it and saw the potential of what it could do for the production community. Just trying to be fair since I don't even use it. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
The record labels just want to monopolise AI music generation and make more money.
I do believe that family and also that the want to capitalize on the movement. I don't doubt that. But we also need a way to protect the artists that they also use or might go by. I do believe there is a way to meet both but greed rules. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I'm glad it's back firing. What else do people need to make music
See I think the thing is that people like things to be instant like grits and don't want to work for the accomplishment and satisfaction of saying they completed something from scratch. I appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel. Hope it inspires and motivates to create family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup Blessings it won't make us or break us , producers who love the challenge of making something out of anything 💪🏿💪🏿🙏
I got you family. For sure! 💯💯💯
Nope I haven't use AI but what I see was cool, but I'd never release a tune with Drake on it.
Thats the whole thing. I think it was cool when it was used for personal and not commercial use. What sparked this I think is the track that Merto Boomin did "BBL Drizzy" and because it made some serious numbers things had to get looked at on another level. It had too. And because the BIG 3 numbers are about numbers they wasnt gonna let this slide. Appreciate you as always for the input brother! We gonna see how this goe. i think its over in the commercial sense maybe. But we will see. Blessings!
@@PULSEMusicGroup Well I could kinda see this coming, I pretty sure I was commenting on AI videos that these services where literally cutting and chopping up actual music and or lyrics straight from Spotify, and it was not original content. I'm actually happy to see AI music being slowed or shut down, it was over hyped and should never of been taken seriously. People really believed that these AI was generating original music, which it never was, but thats just My two cents. I appreciate you brother.
Man, I was kinda in the loop a little with that in the thinking it was generating it "own" sound. That's what it supposed to be right, lol But its all good. That's why I love these dialogs and conversations. You guys keep me on my toes, lol 💯💯💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup I think allot of people thought the same.
he who has the gold makes the rules !!!!!!! end of....
Only those who know will know. And we wait for the final results. Honestly we almost now what its gonna but still we wait, lol Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel family! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
nope .... the training of the sounds were not created with copy written material. The greedy record companies just don't want the common musicians to have a slice of their pie...hell the are hard prressed to share with the contracted artist on their lable.
That's not all together true family. It has been number of accounts where either the people or the artist themselves have shared testimony of finding there stuff beimg currated. We will see how these things work out in the end but who knows. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup oh I don’t doubt that at all…the challenge will be proving it in a court of law…and showing how you were damaged by the transgression. Both applications aggressively warn about obvious copyright infringement possibly passing that hot potato instantly to the user.
@@kirbythecomputerguy7610I agree. It's gonna have to come do to what can be proved in a court of law and you know the big boys gonna look for loop holes for sure to try and get the case. Appreciate the dialog family. I'm really interested in seeing how this gonna play out in the end. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Just crazy
Yeah no doubt brother. Gonna be interesting to see how the end of this goes especially for how much money they gonna atru and take from the pot. They snt take out AI but they will try to drain it financially for sure. Appreciate you coming through and supporting man. Always dope when you come through! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup man please. You family now. Expect my presence often. Lmao
Dude you just don't know man. Mad respect for you and your channel as well dude. Fam for life. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Apple, Nvidia, Anthropic Used Thousands of Swiped UA-cam Videos to Train AI.
That's actually interesting 🤔🤔🤔 Gotta check that out. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I don't think it's good at all because now record companies are suing Suno and Udio, These companies have been training there own Super Computers to make music using Copyright in the end that's competition for Producer's, like we don't always have some kind of issue anyway
That's an interesting point family. All in all it's gonna be about who has the bigger pockets and who can control what when it comes to this AI situation in the music industry. Everything has to do with that I believe. I know AI isn't going anywhere because everyone and their grandmother is using it. But we will see in the end with this and how it goes. Greatly appreciate the comment and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup we will see and keep Pushing 💪🏿💪🏿💯🙏🙏
Appreciate that family. Will do!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I don’t use AI
I never have honestly either except for that time I did the video, lol I dont really see the need for me because I'm super creative 24/7 but you know that. It's gonna be crazy seeing how this gonna play out. Appreciate you as always brother. 💯💯💯
You sound like you wasnt even curious brother, lol lol lol I love it! I was the same way when it comes to producing. Like I said in the channel its only because we had to go over it because it was music news.
@@PULSEMusicGroup I was and still curious just didn’t make time
Your loss.
@@ZomBearzAwww don't say it like that family lol smh. To loss something means I have to have had it in the first place. I never use AI so I am not upset but I am an artist and I understand how this plays out of the community doesn't have protection. There are AI ge seated things in almost everything so it's not about taking out AI for me but about having boundaries of that makes sense. Appreciate the input and coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
AI is evolving nobody will shut down.lol
I don't believe they will shut it down either but they will try to get a piece of the pie for sure! Apprciate you coming through and dropping a comment family! Thanks so much! Blessings!
Meh. The technology is here to stay though. UVR5 will continue to be perfect - if that even makes sense to all of you. I want to make fresh new albums of posthumously dead artists like a new Gerald and Sean Levert or a new Grand Daddy I.U. album! How cool is that?
Oh no doubt that's true. But to the extent of mere admiration or to also pocket your works of that album? I think that's where the issues are. To make money off of those that are no longer here would be fair I think to the estate of those people. And that's were I understand the lawsuit. But as far as doing it for fun, for personal, or even non monitized productions then of course that's awesome! Been a min too by the way. Appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
@@PULSEMusicGroup No doubt no doubt fam.
Not really that cool. It wouldn't actually be you making anything. AI music is more akin to a kid pushing the McNuggets button on a touchscreen kiosk and waiting for the nuggets to be delivered.
@@JSMCPN I would be producing it, not composing it. The fact it already exists means I could never compose it, only manipulate it - technically sampling and re-producing it. Get your discernment of disagreements together. Move around.
@@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY Hardly counts as production either. Your involvement in the overall process, short of marketing, would be practically nil. "Tupperware salesman" is more like it. You place an order for product from the factory, wait for it to arrive, slap your logo on it, and try to get rid of it quickly.
There should be some control this. Gotta do the work yourself. I wouldn't use that anyway.
This is one of the reasons why I love to produce and go from scratch. Even if sampling I try to make sure to choo it to oblivion lol But we will see how they play this out. Appreciate as always Ken. Hope all is well with you and you are enjoying the summer so far. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
yo he creado canciones con la voz de sting, jamiroquai, red hot, y alejandro sanz....... esta en mi canal (emi jam).
Eso es droga. Solo tenga cuidado al publicarlos en la familia de plataformas. Cuando se comparte entre tu familia y amigos es genial, pero cuando se vuelve rentable y, digamos, explota, entonces tendrás algo en tus manos. No es que vengan por la gente pequeña, pero nunca se sabe. ¡Agradezco el comentario y por pasar y ver el video y el canal! ¡Bendiciones! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
I don’t agree with you
Totally understand family. I do however appreciate you coming through and checking out the vid and the channel! Thanks for the comment! Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯
Fam, you can use AI to create drum kits. You don't need to sample or pay a designer no mo
Very true. I just mentioned to another subscriber about how even plugin use AI assistant to help in the creation process. I believe that is fine and nothing is wrong with that. However you do have where people are using artist works, voices, and even their creations and that is not right. But we will see how this plays out because they can't stop it but they will try to get as much money from it as possible IMO. Greatly appreciate the input and for coming through and checking out the vid and the channel family. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 💯