@@gyangting we are in a music channel so we are talking about music, i do not want anyone to lose their job, i think machines (long time ago) and now Ai should pay taxes (their owners corp) so we the people who need to eat and all this human things can live and do arts by getting granted a basic income from government paid by these greedy corporations
@@gyangting If you had machines doing things for you ,then there would be no need for money nor jobs. Do you like breaking your back, just so you can pay taxes to the people that do not care bout you?
I am a music producer myself and I can say with certainty that all music producers are inspired by other music. And that in the broadest sense of the word. Anyone who says he doesn't is lying. So why can't a computer do the same? There are relatively few people who make money making music compared to the number of people who make music. 99% have never made money making music, but they put a lot of time into it. Perhaps professional music makers are a bit spoiled, because they get money for pursuing a hobby while others do the same without getting any money for it. And maybe the others do it even better. When you do something for money, you have to accept that the world is constantly changing and maybe at some point what you do is no longer so important. That happens in every industry. I would say adapt and move on.
I agree honestly. And this is coming from someone that lives for music concerts with *real* people. AI, is really no different as an instrument to make music with. People that so vehemently hate it are the ones that stand to lose financially from it. I feel that is disingenuous because why should a certain group of people come ahead financially while others are denied a way to express themselves. I know this argument can be spun backwards, but there is not much stopping you from still making music if you already possess traditional music skills. The same cannot be said for those that have to use AI to make music.
First ChatGPT came for the copywriters, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a copywriter. Then MidJourney came for the graphic designers, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a graphic designer. Then Udio came for the musicians, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a musician. Then AI came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
Want a sci-fi about the shit that'll happen when GenAI gets our brainwaves? Check out my novel Above Dark Waters. I played with it and it was scary (Some examples on my channel). It was the first time something was 'catchy'. MJ was cool, and ChatGPT kind of bland, but the songs here caught a share of my mind.
What will it mean? Only acoustic instruments played in real time by human musicians? What about multitracking? What is "real singing" and where's the line on that - multiple takes, punch-ins, EQ sweetening, autotune? What about synths? Synths with sequencers? Professional recording engineer, or a basement musician using an AI mixing tool? It's not going to be as it was.
No it won't. People couldn't care less how something is made. They will choose the product that best suits their needs regardless of how it's made or who made it.
Authenticity is dying. Everything is becoming a cheap imitation. Soon I will have a replicant for a wife, listening to AI music, eating a lab grown burger.
I've been a music producer all my life, I've released many many records and I think you should just embrace it. There's no way we're going back, this is just the start. Onwards.
I started writing songs not long ago and SUNO brought my stories to life. But I am not in any way pretending to be a musician, or an artist. I just don't have the gift and the knowledge that you have. Real musicians are needed, and I am sure that after the initial fad, customers will learn the difference between truly custom and randomly generated. Keep it up man, and please do not give up because that's the only true death of music as we know it. Respect.
I am a musician, and AI is helping me a lot. Now I have an infinite amount of original music to cover and play live, without worrying about copyrights. And instead of singing songs about broken hearts and gangsta rap, I can sing cover songs about whatever I want.
I'm a graphic designer and webprogrammer for 20 years. My biggest hobbie is music. My world is actually turned upside down. It's pretty wild to process. Implemented a lot of AI into my workflow, it makes stuff easier now but I know their are so many people that will be affected by this. The biggest thing is that it gives me a huge feeling of disrespect to ... hard to explain ... mankind. It's like washing away all the conciseness, the admiration for real art. I guess you know my I mean. I need stop writing and talk to Chat GPT about my crazy thoughts ... Wish you the best!
I think it feels like that becasue of the initial influx of "garbage content" not becasue AI is bad but more becasue people are literally trying to produce "digital waste" that no one really enjoys. But that's like social media being filled with shiitposters. The quality of the content is dependant on the one producing it.
Give ME a FN Break!!!!!!!!!! ALL the Holier than thoug "Artists"! YOU use sysnthesizers, DAWs. computer generated intruments from guitars to drums and MORE when YOU create your songs! YOU do NOT create songs totally devoid of help from Computers and the AI is just an extension of that. BOTTOM line is that it will mean MORE people can become song writers writing their own lyrics who do not know how to play an instrument or pay for their own band. And for live bands it means they now have an OVER abundance of songs that they can sing live by making deals with the song writers. The Genie is out of the bottle and it cannot be put back in. AI will enhance artists and not kill them!
Coders are becoming obsolete also now. Amazon just laid off hundred of its coders. Ai code generators can produce about the code about 50-75% of the way now and its only getting better every year. We will still always need people to oversee it but far less than before.
As a game developer I know it won't be long until they do the same with games. Guess I will have to just settle with making what I want to make regardless of AI.
Exactly @lennysmileyface and let me just say that you may even find AI useful to you and help you make what you want to make. There's certain things AI can do that you might not have thought of. You can always use AI to iterate out ideas - and pick out parts you like, and then reproduce and integrate them into your gamem music using your traditional workflow. the most important thing about art and music is that the artist is able to translate their imagination into reality and make what they want to hear or say what they want to say. Whether or not society rewards that with money should have no bearing over what you make - or else you are no longer making your own art - you're simply creating a commodity chosen by market forces which inevitably alienates you from your work and makes you disinterested and not put soul into it. It's better when people make art because they wanted to make it not because it's what someone else is willing to pay for - in that case its not your own art its the customers' art that you're just being directed to make for them.
@@fast_harmonic_psychedelic Yeah I definitely agree. I have a vision for the game I want to make. If it made money it would be nice but if not at least I made something.
agreed i have some same mindset. im interested in doing everything. when i first decided to try to learn how to use google colab it was surprising going from thinking i would never be able to program anything to knowing python just because i was forced to learn it in order to train a marxist GPT-2. then dalle and clip came out and some early art generators and i just adapted to it so fast.. at this point i feel like I can do anything. Any problem i have or code i dont know how to write i can just ask bing or chatgpt to write that part of the code and it always works. nothing is out of my reach. Soon I'm going to figure out how to get AI to control the python terminal in blender and see what it can do.. Im also making psytrance by hand in the daw, making animated psychedelic music videos that react to the psytrance, and also making AI music singing About me making music videos and making psytrance lol. or making ai music about the pharmacy i go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when i got there and her telling me to send it to her and gave me her personal number lol.. Its not a threat to me -- its just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that i can somehow monetize AI music. Why should i make money on something i put no effort or time into? The way i see it- AI music should not be commercialized, people should just make AI music to make the music - not to get some cash reward .. i just enjoy hearing the music that didnt exist.. I wanted a song that sang by two singers male and female, the female in english the male in russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair , she loves him but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. she says his hypersonic speed is her creed. Lol This would NEVER EXIST if i didnt create it with AI but now it does exist and some day someone will find it as funny as i do, and we'll listen to it while hanging out and have laughs over it .. What else is there besides moments like this lol.. what is this "industry" and "careers" i hear so much about - sounds like a real dream lol. The comments in this video look like true happiness lol... Capitalism destroys everything good but you dont need to slave art to the service of capitalism, instead you should slave capitalism to the service of art like I do :P @@lennysmileyface
Agreed, I share a similar mindset. I’m interested in doing everything. When I first decided to learn how to use Google Colab, it was surprising to go from thinking I would never be able to program anything to knowing Python, just because I was forced to learn it to train a Marxist GPT-2. Then DALL-E and CLIP came out, along with some early art generators, and I adapted to them so fast. At this point, I feel like I can do anything. Any problem I have or code I don’t know how to write, I can just ask Bing or ChatGPT to write that part of the code, and it always works. Nothing is out of my reach. Soon, I’m going to figure out how to get AI to control the Python terminal in Blender and see what it can do. I’m also making psytrance by hand in the DAW, creating animated psychedelic music videos using AI that react to the psytrance and create something like a dmt trip, and even making AI music singing about me making music videos and making psytrance. like all of this is just because it was cool and i wanted to make it and do it my way. Or making AI music about the pharmacy I go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when I got there, and her telling me to send it to her and giving me her personal number. It’s not a threat to me-it’s just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that I can somehow monetize AI music. Why should I make money on something I put no effort or time into? The way I see it, AI music should not be commercialized; people should just make AI music for the sake of the music, not to get some cash reward. I just enjoy hearing the music that didn’t exist before. I wanted a song sung by two singers, male and female, the female in English, the male in Russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair. She loves him, but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. She says his hypersonic speed is her creed. This would NEVER EXIST if I didn’t create it with AI, but now it does exist, and someday someone will find it as amusing as I do, and we’ll listen to it while hanging out and have a good time over it. What else is there besides moments like this? What is this “industry” and “careers” I hear so much about - sounds like a real dream. The comments in this video look like true happiness… Capitalism destroys everything good, but you don’t need to enslave art to the service of capitalism; instead, you should enslave capitalism to the service of art, like I do. 😄
Ça change rien pour les artistes de talent si ils sont capables de reproduire sur scène avec des musiciens parce que de nos jours les maisons disques vous signent plus vous laisse seul à tout faire un studio d'enregistrement ça coûte minimum 100000€ Et une heure d'enregistrement c'est 50 € ,................... Pour finir un morceau il faut plusieurs jours .......
@@e.and.f I'm studying electric guitar. For me, AI is great only about vst amp plugins, because is cheap than buy all good real amps, cabinets and pedals.
This is disruptive technology. The legal challenges have just begun and if the holders of rights win, it will just go underground for a while or mutate into another approach. I have embraced it as a way to get my lyrics out using AI as a writing partner. I don't see a way to stop it or hold it back. While I use it there is negative gravity associated with it. However, as a improvisational composer, I play my unique brand of live music and send it out to UA-cam as well and I think for those who can play live, there is always going to be an audience and a market. The next development will be virtual performers and that is already emerging at Mureka where you can have a singer mouth your song on your video. Soon a whole virtual band will be an option. But they are not going on tour or playing live at the local venue. It is complex and there is a lot not to like about the virtual compositions. On the other hand with producers using computer generated (sliced and diced) music segments and autotune the vocals we were always headed in this direction. These services have jumped the shark but I do not see them going away anytime soon. Music is an important part of being human. If we have a good listening experience, we do not (usually) question the source, although that is what is coming, no doubt. Thanks for your passionate critique. But as I wrote in one of my lyrics (Go With the Flow) "You might as well try to hold back the ocean"..... I have lived through several disruptive technologies in my 80 years - semiconductors, LSI, computers, personal computers, WWW, on line services, smart phones and more. This is one of them. We will have to deal with it. All those revolutions seem to speed things up, this will do the same. I think it is another "adapt or be irrelevant" .... do we still have pocket calculators? Hardware becomes an App. Welcome to the revolution!
@@razorgarf Like most, you haven't recalibrated your futurizing neurons for the age of AI. Crank the "exponentially" knob up a level or two, and you'll hit the correct two to three months prediction
Is it going to replace my lovely park walks , is it going to replace my amazing swim moments , is it going to replace my taste for the best food ? Is it going to replace my joy to see a live band at a festival ? Is it going to replace my quality time with my loved ones ? How exactly is AI gonna replace all that in my live ? I guess it is not ! Not at all !
My problem is the attitude that these "artists" have regarding their particular medium, whether it's visual art, music, or anything else the AI is now intruding on, they take this elitist standpoint as if they are the sole purveyors and gatekeepers of creativity. I've been using AI for well over a year now, and the stuff that I produce visually, even the few things that I produced using Suno, I enjoy immensely. The thing these artists forget, is that not everybody is a highly educated or well experienced artist that enjoys the subtleties and nuances of whatever art medium there enjoying at the moment. These elitist attitude artists need to realize that 99.99% of the population just wants to hear a good song that makes him feel good, or see a pretty picture that they can say "hey that's cool". Once these artists get off their soapbox, and start embracing this new tool, they'll be able to produce things that the regular lay person will not be able to.
Not everyone can play instruments or sing. And not everyone can afford to pay for training or buy nice instruments. But there are lots of regular Joes and Janes out there who can write beautiful lyrics or wonderfully express themselves in words. But the music industry is so monopolized and structured in a way- that lyricists- unless well connected, won't ever have the opportunity to ever see their words made into song. This is where Ai comes in! And it's beautiful and fantastic!! Musicians are complaining- but they too, are taking advantage of this. I've heard of several local musicians who write their own lyrics- then feed them to Suno, and Suno gives them a blueprint of how to create and perform their next new songs. So musicians will benefit 1000X more from music-generating ais like Suno, then a regular Joe. Because they can actually go out and record it, perform it for their fans, and immediately profit from it. A regular Joe like me can feed Suno some lyrics and Suno can return the most beautiful song in the world, but what am I going to do with it? I have no music connections, no one knows who I am, and even if I were to stream the song to a distribution service, same thing, I have no name, no nothing! It won't be a threat to these musicians who are crying foul. THEY are and will be the biggest benefactors of these AI music generators. For the rest of us, at least we can enjoy our own lyrics put to music on a CD- and maybe pass along to family and friends. Just like musicians as they were growing up, listening and getting inspired by all of the musicians and music before them- a lot of them and their music sound just like other musicians and their music- but it's okay, right? All the Ai did was listen to the musicians and the music out there, and then got its inspiration (so to speak) just like any artist has done too, but then AI does is much better job than them in creating music off of that inspiration (so to speak). And this is what they don't like! Too much greed in the music industry!
You mean, into video generative AI software that is already in developement and will pop out within weeks/months. AI will soon (very, very soon) replace EVERY single creative aspect of humanity. We're talking about 8bn plumbers, picker-packers and bus drivers because we will end up exclusively with physical jobs available.
It will still take talented human minds to choose the best of the AI clip generations and put them together properly. If nobody is trained to play an instrument at an early age or trained in music theory, these minds will not exist.
Make better movies? If people can make a more intersting film in a few minutes on their laptop, then I'd rather watch that. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
A lot of musicians lost their jobs when recording music was invented. Movie theaters used to have live musicians. AI was inevitably going to happen as long as technology kept advancing.
Yes and people needs to adapt. It is only bad for the people who can't adapt but for people who are using this technology its good. Unfortunately with this kind of technology everyone can now create their own music. So if you are trying to fight this kind of technology and you are a musician, then you are against everyone now. Because that is the real sense of all this complains... musicians do not want other people to be capable of creating their own music because if everyone can do it then who needs them right??
Yeah I feel like a vacation I have been on an emotional roller coaster for a little while it feels like I have a difficult to understand emotion with AI I love how interesting and mind-blowing this technology is but I feel like it hits my ego kind of makes me feel useless I know I'm going to still create music because I love creating music it's just I won't have it as a job probably anymore hopefully I start getting a universal paycheck and that means we all get paid vacation and then we get to do whatever we want in our free time which I'm still going to make music and ambience and I'm still going to make films and other projects I don't think AI is going to change my objectives it might make my goals easier to achieve as well maybe we'll even have human-based platforms and museums and art appreciation for human art and it will all be funded by AI
If only. It's back to regular jobs for us all, making some asshole boss or capitalist rich. After all, in their eyes, that's what humans are there for.
it's unstoppable, every job, no matter whether musician, artist, doctor, police, scholar, accountant or programmer, everyone will be replaced by AI. In other words, everyone on this planet will lose their job, or at least their current job sooner or later. That's not a problem of AI or technology, it's a problem of capitalism and social policies.
Although capitalism has its downsides (Human Greed) it also bought the price of guitars and music equipment down through mass production and private enterprise. The pop music industry from rock to hip hop was not birthed under communist regimes and it’s improbable that it ever could.
y'all need to quit fuckin doom saying... literally nothing an AI can do with music is going to be better than one a human can do, they simply don't have the means. Not to mention AI in it's current form is wildly unsustainable, it's gonna slow down and eventually not even be worried about
Thank you for this. I can't tell you how powerfully this hit me. I am a retired software engineer (not AI) and a lifelong violin and guitar player. And recently mandolin. I have enjoyed recording with DAW's for many years, including a lot of work with both external and plugin synthesizers. I had been thinking of re-tooling up and looking to make a modest supplement to my income as a producer via mostly digital tools. I agree, this is now out the window. I may still play in the digital recording world, but I will spend most or my time playing instruments in various groups, sometimes in a show situation. but mostly amateur -- in the original sense of the word -- jams with friends. Passion is still there, but any idea of financial reward is now reckoned out. Listening to you felt like listening to part of my own brain, so thanks again and good luck.
I completely disagree, it is one of the best tools in history, and it will make a million things easier for everyone. Oh and it's something that's not going to stop, so either you adapt or you get angry at the world for something you can't control. The technology is incredible and fascinating, what is being achieved is historic, and it will benefit humanity, it is already doing so. As soon as you start to see what has happened throughout history, it has always been the same, when the camera was created the realism painters thought they were running out of work, however there have never been more realism painters in the world that today, and thanks to TECHNOLOGY, they can become known throughout the world without having to have money, all that is required is talent. If an AI can replace what you do, what you do probably isn't that unique. The music that I have made (mostly hip hop beats) can be made perfectly by an AI, I did not try to revolutionize anything or create anything new, and that inspires me to start breaking the barriers of what I did, of the standard, and innovate by about what exists. This is an incredible opportunity.
People already flood the net with AI generated videos and music. Recording a song from beginning to end may take many hours and AI can spit it in seconds. And it can also "draw inspiration" from everything on internet. I am not optimistic about it. And one day some AI platform will accuse me in copy right infringement just like Facebook does from time to time. They may block 🚫 our music because it sounds like one of the billions of songs AI will generate.
The music industry has been doing this for decades. They get all the money from the musicians work and creativity while the artist receives peanuts. So same story different decade.
indeed its just the final step, more obvious, of the same thing, and it won't kill music, art, creativity, it will just help to see the real artists shining among an ocean of automated mass-quick-consumption content!
The difference is that the music industry cannot copyright AI generated music, thus you can use it for any purpose without worry. The issue is that the music industry may generate AI music and NOT tell the public that it is AI generated, then sue YOU for using that AI generated music under these false pretenses....
@@THE_HMRC The first point you made is one of the most important in all of this debate. Say AI comes up with a "hit". Then everyone and their brother can remix, re-publish, perform as, make memes from, etc etc. AI art becomes part of the community common and enriches us all. As to the second part, there must be some kind of semi-obfuscated watermarking required for the use of these tools. That will surely come and these companies already know how to do that and some are advocating for it, as they must and some have already, ethically. And even if that didn't happen, onus is on them to prove they didn't use AI to produce the track. I guess they could hire actors to pose as the artist in question in court - then it becomes very fun to cross-examine their methods and level of talent. 🧠 think on, amigos.
Hello Paul, thank you very much for this video. In my opinion, the chord progressions and arrangements created by SUNO and UDIO are already far above the level of many, many amateur home recording colleagues, including the semi-professionals. There is a sell-off of the last bit of creativity going on. It may be a "great toy" for everyone, even for my six-year-old granddaughter, for example, but the situation for music producers is likely to get worse in the future. I think it is increasingly unlikely that you will be able to earn a fair living with your own music at some point. For those who only do it as a hobby anyway and whose songs more or less just end up in a drawer, it doesn't really matter. Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant. Conclusion: total sell-off of music, for just a few cents per song.
"Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant." It may be irrelevant for you, but certainly not for them. There are people who don't see art purely as a business.
As a hobbyist music producer I still see great value and joy in making music. Nobody cares about my tracks and likely never will, but I enjoy creating way more than just pressing a button That said, try creating something specific. I actually just spent about an hour with Suno and made several great options. But you can use it creatively: eg find the right genre, find good lyrics (create your own), make sketches. I can actually see it as a great sketchpad before committing to a song and doing exactly what you want manually. It would be interesting if Ableton for example had it integrated and was producing actual tracks with full plugin settings and later allowing to tweak. That would be next level. Perhaps they are working on it :)
@@arseniharkunou tools will become available with these services for professionals to output stems, upload their own content and vocals to 'transform'. Probably at extra cost. Nothing is free in life and expecting to hold a music career indefinitely is delusional.
Did drummers stop playing drums when drum machine was invented? Do people pay to see two computers play chess?People are in team Human and will always prefer human made over computer made. Perfect is boring. If AI makes those producers to stop making music who make it only for money, then i think there is nothing wrong with it. Rest of us continues as always. Peace!
@@digidope The drum machines didn't replace drummers argument is a crass and silly, since all drum machines did is provide another tool for musicians to create a rhythm track. As such, a whole new aesthetic was created that while, it intersected with previous forms, could never adequately replace them. Also, one needs skill to use a drum machine to the degree that someone like Aphex Twin would. AI doesn't just replace a part of music production/creation, it takes over the whole process and does away with the need for skilled practioners of the craft entirely. This is completely different to replacing or in some cases augmenting a certain part of a piece using technology.
@@musicpatrickmusic what were the big words he used? Invented? Or was it Prefer? I keep reading his short paragraph and I cannot fathom which word you could've possibly defined as "big". Oh shit... did I just use a big word?
I’m an illustrator. Midjourney came for me last year and took several jobs out from under me and everyone told me, “adapt”. We’re all meant to scrub toilets while the machines do all our creative and leisure activities.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MILLIONS OF MACHINIST CRATSMEN MECHANICS WENT THROUGH OVER LAST 40 YEARS HERE AND THIS GUY WANTS PITY BECAUSE NOW THE MACHINE HAS CIME FOR MEDIOCRE TUNE DIDDLERS WHAT WHY DO YOU THINK THE RUST BELT IS IN THE MIDWEST IF YOU THINK THIS GUY WHINES WAIT TILL WE NO LONGER NEED THE LAWYERS
100% agree with you. Artists, composers, producers, all of us who dedicate ourselves to art, are literally dead (professionally and economically speaking). And in reality, the fault is not the AI, it is society itself that does not care about the artists, it only wants the product, fast, simple and cheap. We are facing the chronicle of a death foretold. Sorry for my English. Greetings from Spain.
We are fine in my opinion. People can adapt to technology. Orchestral music became less productive when computers took over music, but music itself didn't die. We made a new art form
21:15 Where are the protests? Illustrators and photographers have been protesting since 2022, there's a class action lawsuit going on that has FINALLY been greenlit despite stability and midjourney pleading for dismissal, the data poisoning tools are being developed as well as detection tools to recognize AI generated imagery. The problem though is that this whole time everyone's been ignoring this issue and happily supporting Midjourney and the likes of it because suddenly they were able to get album covers, book covers, t-shirts designs etc for the price of cheap sibscription. Some would say the time to protest has already passed, people have voted with their wallets directly supporting companies that are now developing AIs to replace them. Meanwhile, I'm trying to stay optimistic and seeing more and more groups of people being impacted by this I'm hoping we'll collectively start rejecting anything that was made with generative AI making it unprofitable for anyone to release products made with AI so that human creation and art can continue to thrive. PS. I feel like we illustrators were at the same place that musicians are today two years ago when Midjourney dropped. So yeah, two years and I'm proud to let you know that many of us are still working. I'm still drawing full-time, I even began experiencing an interest in my traditional drawings. Sure, some people lost clients, but I'm hearing of plenty of artists getting even more jobs because clients are starting to look for something that "doesn't look so much AI-ish". So perhaps it's not all doom and gloom, I think this mainly impacts the stock markets where you don't need anything specific or unique. PS2. Greetings from Warsaw :)
If you want to stop things using AI. You wont have social media even UA-cam, probably the new phones too or any smart devices... because guess what they are all using AI. So I suggest you to stop using anything that uses AI. So why are you here on youtube? UA-cam has taken a big percentage of entertainment industry from other mediums, don't you know that? Me? I love youtube and I plan to just adapt with the changes. Be true to yourself you just complain on the things that affects you.
@3102nzain I think you're misunderstanding a bit, no one says boycott all AI, this is just about generative AI. There are AIs being used to speed up science and medical research, to help us understand animal communication better, pretty sure no sane person would be against that.
@@ArucardPL Bro the video is about AI stealing humans work from them specifically about music generating AI... so why just focus on music generating AI right? My point is all AI's work can be done by humans but thousand times faster. And I think you said AI is being use to speed up research to help us, right? Music generating AI is speeding up making music for everyone too. Do you see the similarity?Before youtube, only film makers, actors etc can make their own shows... now everyone is capable to make their own content, their own show, their own films. You know what, youtube uses AI too. Do you know how much percentage is affected by youtube on other entertainment mediums, like TV, radio etc? It is big bro. Everyone is trying to adapt bro not just the music creators. Also many people will benefit from this AI generating tools because they can now create their own music. Before music creators can monopolize the music industry because some people can't create their own music. Probably because they do not have the money to buy instruments, do not have the tools to create good music. But now it is a lot cheaper to make. We are now capable to express how we feel by making our own music and listen to the music we created. Example me I love listening to the music and songs that I created by using this AI tools. It makes me remember my childhood and my experiences in life. Isn't it a good AI technology to have? Taking it away means I have no choice but to listen to other people's music. Should I just wait for a good song to be created, the kind that speaks to me? Or create one myself?
Let's think about this for a moment, a musician comes along and writes a new song and that song has a fresh and different style, so a new genre is born. This genre takes off say like house or techno did, next thing you know 1000's of other musicians are writing tracks using similar sounds and beats. Are these musicians plagiarising the guy that came up with the new genre? Just to be clear, I run a small recording studio and write my own music in my down time. If AI and the androids to come that it will be installed in are writing tracks for commercials, corporate video's etc it will leave the real musicians time to write what they want. I know that I would be much happier writing my own personal tracks than composing some cheesy track for a pizza commercial. While AI is proving that it can do more and more things a human can let's not forget it will also be cleaning toilets , working down a mine shaft, emptying our garbage bins and waiting on us hand and foot. So ultimately we will have more time to do what we enjoy, yes it will take a lot of jobs but the decision making and the main creativity will be left to humans and we will have more time for these activities. If I load up Chat GPT on my computer and stare at it for a week it will do absolutely nothing, but if I give it the right prompt or ask it the right question it can do wonders. The only problem I see with it is the fact that it can be abused by the wrong people and this is what really needs to be regulated and prevented by incorporating the appropriate safety measures within the software. Man was never meant to fly....... Just saying. It's another tool to speed up productivity, I have played with these music models myself and they have impressed the hell out of me as to how good they sound BUT generate 10 or 20 songs using the same prompt and you will start to hear a mass produced flavor to the songs, most of the good tracks that make it to the charts have something unique about them that makes them interesting. Yes there are some that just ride a wave of the genre but if that is what some people want to listen to that's fine too. As mentioned, drum machines and synthesisers were considered evil by traditional musicians back in the late 70's and beyond, now they are totally acceptable when writing and recording tracks. It's an interesting time with the introduction of AI at the moment and one that I know will go down in history as a major turning point in our development as a species. I embrace it and look forward to the things that are to come, both musical and otherwise. I hope you got value out of my 2 cents worth and no this was not an AI generated response 🙂 Write something new and interesting and they will listen to it!
I’m old as dirt and have a hard time listening to a lot of modern music because almost every track reminds me of something I listened to 20-30 years ago. Let’s see if AI can create a new CCR or Bob Dylan .
The "stolen" argument is a bit slippery. Everybody, since the beginning of humanity, is stealing ideas from others, and nobody ever complained. A simple example. The renaissance was "invented" in Italy and was a completely different style in arts and architecture from the existing medieval style. Everybody saw it revolutionary and better and copied it. It rapidly spread all over Europe. The ancient Romans "copied" the Greek temples style, developed it further and created an architectural style that it is still copied and used today, everywhere in the world. Would you say that all the government buildings in Washington DC (neoclassical style, modeled after the buildings of ancient Rome of 2000 years ago) are a plagiarism and a steal of intellectual property?
Okay, you criticize AI, that's possible. I was worried about it too, but now that I'm working on it I'm starting to like it too. I have always been busy with lyrics, but I don't sing and I don't play an instrument. AI now gives me the opportunity to bring my texts to life. But even if you are so angry with AI, what are all those computers and equipment doing in your studio? Doesn't that make your music sound better? It's a kind of hardware AI. Everything a person invents and makes is to make things easier for people, think about that.
TL;DR - The cream will rise to the top. People that can write music but can't sing can now create music. Came from a generational musical family from Motown. I've seen things come, go and stay. Live sessions musicians, synthesized sounds, auto-tune, then fruity loops. It's okay. Music isn't everyone's thing. It takes me at least 3 hours to make a good song with Suno or Udio. It takes me less than that in a studio.
@@reno419rockstar I spend a couple of days in Udio churning out tracks attempting to guide it towards full length songs. Right now it is so unpredictable it is hard work to get any output that fits my ideal of how the song should progress (from beginning to end). I kinda gave up. It is very unfriendly towards those who want more creative control over it's paramaters and output. Hopefully that will improve with time though. I want to be able to output stems, upload my own works to 'transform'. Use my own vocals etc.
@@Mopantsu The things you want will all happen, probably sooner than you think, and hopefully there will be GPU based tools that run locally too. The people who stand to lose the most from new AI music tools like suno and udio aren't the composers, they're companies like Reason Studios, Ableton and Image line. Those companies will be forced to adapt or die, much like how Adobe was forced to add AI powered autofill to photoshop, or be left in the dust by image generators. Right now these web services are just toys, but t hey are very nice toys, and very solid proof of concept for a better suite of actual tools. It's really only just beginning.
I think so too. I also think soon it will be obvious what is AI and what is not. It’s just a hype for a while and it’ll go back to the background and being used as a tool. Which it is
I feel like all music makers should band together, make a joint fund and withdraw all human made music behind a paywall. They can all get fucked with their AI machines. No computer is bigger than the Source of our creativity. This was a super satisfying video to watch - thanks for making it!
Interesting topic. I just wanna get opinion, This is the situation. Jack is an artist. Famous one. He performed Live concert with thousand people watching. One fanatic named Kyle recorded one of the song into his iphone. after concert , Kyle was really inspired by Jack music style. He watch the video he recorded at concert again and again and practice try to learn the same music style. After few years of practice he managed to become pro and finally made his own album (not copying Jack) rather inspired version which he added with other style he learn all the years past. When interview by forbes, a question forwared to kyle, who inspired you? then Kyle says well its Jack from the live concert fews years back. See this is valid case in music industry. Now suno ai (Generative ai) actually seems using the same model, however it can do it just in 5 seconds with super cheap. Just because it can learn and produce faster, it become threat to all artist in the world? Just becuase real artist cant keep up with the same speed, suddenly it become threat and should have a motion to against it? Remember not only music industry lost their job, programmers, content creator, journalist many more face the same fate. Why their voice not being heard? because they are normal people that doesnt show up on screen. while artist have the position to influence much more audiences. To put it in simple terms, artist think that they are so special and the rest of the people with their job being threaten by Ai should adapt but NOT Artist. Just a humble opinion.
Life will definitely be more convenient with AI. Live music will not be replaced by AI anytime soon. So musicians will be doing exactly what they’re doing.
It's true, I compose songs, make no money. I wrote lyrics and gave them to suno with two 1 word promts. Funk Female. and it made a great Funk song. 2 words. just 2.
AI music is a soulless product with no talent. I'd never listen to it. I like stuff because it was made by people. Allows you to connect more etc. The product you created was crap in my opinion.
As an author, I understand the challenge of increasing competition. But just as writers continue despite the influx of new books, musicians must also adapt. Many people don't want to create-they want to consume. Readers read, listeners listen, and viewers watch. Now, there’s more content than ever, and entertainment's rapid pace has caught up with musicians. This isn't new. Other industries have faced similar disruptions, often aided by AI. Musicians have benefited from these changes, even as other jobs were lost. The key is adapting, just as those before you did by utilizing new technologies. Real artists will always be in demand, especially for live performances. AI-generated music, which cannot be copyrighted, offers new opportunities. Artists can cover and publish more content without legal issues. The need for traditional setups-bands, studios, producers-diminishes. This evolution raises the question: what are we losing versus what are we gaining? For me as a writer, AI means more competition. But competition isn't new; it’s a constant for indie authors and small bands alike. What's exciting is the ability to create books, images, and music with minimal experience in these other fields. AI empowers us to produce and market our work affordably, expanding our creative reach. Consumers benefit from this explosion of creativity, gaining more choices in entertainment. While anyone can create with AI, the demand for genuine artistry remains. Live performances, in particular, gain value. Artists can use AI to enhance their work, breaking through previous limitations. Personally, I’ve used AI to write lyrics, produce music, and create visuals for my characters-things that were financially out of reach before. AI tools have enabled me to bring my artistic vision to life affordably. This accessibility has opened doors for many who couldn’t afford traditional artistic resources. AI-created images using tools like MidJourney offer unique character depictions that aren’t possible with stock photos or hired models. This exclusivity was unattainable before AI. I empathize with the challenges artists face today. Accept the reality and use AI to your advantage. There's always a new niche waiting to be discovered. Embrace AI to enhance your artistry and outperform the competition. Adapt and thrive, as creatives have done with every technological advancement. Let's seize this opportunity and evolve together.
Well put, I agree. Live performances is where the money in the music industry is going to go. Ai can't stage dove into a crowd or cry during a moving performance. That's where the artistry of music will live on forever.
Not only stock music. When artists aren't creating as much music, the instrument manufacturers are going to slowly scale back producing new hardware instruments, as well as vsts. Demand will go down. Unfortunately the general public ear doesn't care if it's AI they're listening to or a human.
@@musicpatrickmusic The companies investing in these solutions will do everithing in their power to make it as inconvenient as possible to listen to human made music. Just like streaming and before digital downloads slowly killed album sales, AI Music will kill human made music because humans want things fast, cheap and convenient and companies with huge budgeds are standing at the gates ready to offer these solutions.
Native instruments pianos taking 250Gb disk space for all the piano samples is not the peak of technology though. Pianoteq is more advanced in a way, but even they haven't gone for machine learning yet.
I just made a djent, death metal, jazz piano, funk, quartet song on Suno, which turned out to be so much more interesting and creative than the bland insipid crap I hear on the radio these days. I see it as nothing more than a tool for my musical arsenal.
Well you got the point there my friend. You made your own song using AI and creators like this one on the video doesn't want that to happen. Because if everyone can make their own song, then he can't make money anymore selling his own song. Making songs won't be profitable anymore for him. Because AI can make songs cheaper and faster and more personalized to your liking and he can't compete with that. But he will realized that he just needs to accept it and adapt. He cant do anything to stop it.
it just another tool, every music creator can use to make music. don't freak out so much. People said the same thing when the drum computer came out, then when Daws became a thing, and still people play instruments. don't freak out so much. be glad u have these tools that can speed up work flow.
Let's face it, music was already dead. It was in total decline, something to see the music that is heard today. Full of mediocre artists lining their pockets with shitty music. I am not going to cry for a music industry that preferred money to the mercy of mediocrity. Without a doubt, a tool was needed that would put music on a new level.
I basically think the same, I quitted producing mainstream music in the late nineties because of mediocrity. At that time, already, there wasn't space for original ideas. Of course, all the musicians who make their living producing mediocre, standard, commercial stuff, are going to loose a good chunk of their revenues. I'm sorry for them, but this is an occupation issue, that has nothing to do with art. I welcome AI, because of its infinite spitting in our faces the mediocrity of "our" modern pop music. This will force us to reconsider, re-think pop music itself. Moreover, I've never listened to an AI generated piece that really moved my neurons. Pure generative AI music cannot be considered art in any way, in my opinion.
@@LATQueens When Napster hit in 2000, the only way musicians could make money was touring and concerts. I never figured out why the music after that went all suck @ss all the way to today.
@ricktheexplorer I agree with you. But don't forget, most artists from back in the day would tell you that they made most of their money from touring and shows anyway. Record labels would consistently pay artists pennies on the dollar for each album sold.
The AI isn't stealing the music, it's stealing the profession of being a musician, and it's doing it by being better at it. It's awful, but there's no law against it. It might not even be immoral, in the wider view. Someone on twitter said - AI was supposed to do the tedious stuff for creative people, not the creative stuff for tedious people.
Well how did AI learn? One day I received 120 euros from pond5 . They had sold my entire catalog with them for Ai learning. And I m stuck legally because I had to opt out,but I didn't know... (i dont read all emails...). That is theft. 120 euros for years of production!
@@ekeys6897 That's sounds like a really sleazy policy from that company (I know nothing about them), and I'm sure they have some fine print somewhere that you agreed to, but that doesn't make what they did any less sleazy. What they essentially did was allow an AI to extract insights from your music as part of its training. Sure, it's not copyright infringement and they paid you for it, but there was no negotiation, no immediate consent. It's probably legal, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. Analogies are difficult and imperfect in this context, but I used to teach at a film school. What happened to you would be similar to my old film school bundling up my previous lectures and PowerPoint slides and using them to train people without telling me, relying on the fine print in my contact to do it. Sure, they send me a payment, but it would still be weird (for the record, they'd never do that). It seems like all human endeavour is rapidly becoming nothing more than training data for our future AI servants... Or our future AI overlords...
@@peacefulman2196 Well, it depends how they got the music and what they did with the music after they got it. Simply downloading music is rarely illegal, though it may have been in violation of the terms they agreed to when they accessed the music. Was the music streamed to a file or recorded from a streaming service? Or did the AI simply "listen" to it via streaming? Was the music taken from a downloading service? CDs? Free-to-air radio? We just don't know. If they broke the terms of whatever conditions they agreed to when accessing the music, then I guess they can be sued (IANAL), but that's not typically a criminal matter. It's not against the law to breach most contracts, but it's often very unwise. One possible exception is if they decrypted encrypted music in the USA - which might be illegal under the US DMCA, but if they did it outside of US jusristiction, even that doesn't apply (IANAL). I predict two things - 1. if it's legal for a human to do it (listen to a bunch of music and then create new works inspired by them) then it's surely legal for softrware to do it. 2. By the time these cases work their way through the various courts of several nations, the music industry (and several other industries) might have already adapted, or shrunk, or mostly vanished. I'm not saying that's a good thing.
the massive attack stlye music sounds nothing like massive attack nor trip hop in general, it has far too uplifting tone to it. Scary developments nonetheless.
For calculators they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!".... for smartphones they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!"... AI is here and what? 😛
Is music created by humans also a kind of copying? Why does a musician believe that when they come up with an idea, it is 100% their own creation? Perhaps somewhere in the depths of their mind, a melody heard 10, 20 or 30years ago resurfaces, and the musician develops it further. But is this development truly "their own creation," or is it also an unintentional act of copying? There are many videos on UA-cam revealing that some very popular hits turn out to be skillful unintentional (or intentional) copies. Why is AI treated differently? Why is it criticized? Many people who lack the financial or time resources can become music creators thanks to AI. Yes, giving AI a prompt and expecting it to produce a hit would be naïve. But it is equally naïve to think that everything created by humans is good and high-quality. The fact is that a large portion of today's human-created music is garbage. It lacks words, message, and melody. With AI, you can input your own words and vision. Result is not 100% AI made... You don’t need to pay for a studio, musicians, or singers to become a music creator. Yes, the music industry will be totally reshaped in the next 5-10 years. Many will lose their jobs, but the same is happening in other AI-related fields. When using tools like Suno or Udio, does anyone truly think a great song can be created with a single prompt? No, it can’t. It takes 10-30 or more iterations, extensions, and refinements to produce something resembling music. Creating AI-generated music is similar to human songwriting: most of it is garbage, but there are also gems and pearls. Behind those pearls, however, are people with a good ear, strong musical intuition, and a solid understanding of music. Both humans and AI create good music and bad music alike. Music studios will lose their significance as this transformation indeed, will lose clients, and it’s sad, but that’s the way it’s going. And not just in the field of music-AI is here to stay. Should we hinder progress just to preserve the financial income of a certain group of people? We could, but we don’t have to. AI will make many aspects of the music industry better because the people behind AI-those who guide its music generation-include a broader range of individuals with quality visions. These people extend far beyond the traditionally exclusive "circles of musicians." With AI, access to creativity becomes democratized. It’s not limited to those who have the money, connections, or technical resources to produce music. Instead, a wider range of voices and perspectives can emerge. While this transformation might disrupt traditional roles and jobs, it will also lead to a richer, more diverse musical landscape. AI doesn't diminish creativity-it amplifies it by allowing more people to express their ideas and innovate. This is the natural course of technological advancement, and it’s our role to adapt, embrace new possibilities, and find a balance where human talent and AI-generated creativity coexist and thrive.
AI is a lazy, soulless, talentless product. Music was turning into a joke before AI came along. It becoming post- postmodern amalgamations of stuff you've heard before. Songs likely becoming popular due to the familiarity these songs have, and is basically a musical con-trick. Now AI going to turn it into a complete farce. It's a travesty. It relies on stupid people falling for the illusion of it being genuine music too. The future of music is not good..
@@PEGGLORE I'm a musician, producer, singer/songwriter and A.I is helping me out big time. I can now control it to be able to add my own chords, tell it what instrumental I want to use, and even upload my voice for A.I to use it as lead vocals and backing vocals. Granted, that took me to study pdf about SUNO that goes into details about how to do that, including progressions for any instrument, and for structure of song. The idea that " just bang some words in prompt button," aand lazy bewilders me. Sure some will do that but for musicians, singers who can write songs these are tools if you know how to use them to speed up your process to put your songs together without live band. You now can do that by adding your chords, progression, and I don't even have to say what genre cause it knows chrods and progression and tune I uploaded as audio with the voice. I don't know how some using it but it sure looks like I am doing it differently. I'm using my chords, my progression ideas, my lyrics, my voice and it's like having a live band and..I get it down fast, ready to show live band of musicians I am hiring.
@@TheMediaMachine It's annoying. Whatever comment I said here has gone, so don't know what I said. Well yh, go for it I suppose. I'm unique in the sense that I don't care for any new music that's made anyway. It's all some sort of mish-mash amalgamation of things that have already been done to become a bit of a nonsense joke. Nothing particularly compelling to make you excited about music is getting made anymore imo. I'd not be listening to any new music, if there was no AI anyway. AI is just speeding up the process of bringing more of the regurgitated crap more quickly I suppose . It's a shame all the really special, visionary bands and people may become forgotten, lost to time and not recognised by most people I think. I'm like I am with all of this because about 20 yrs ago I wrote a university dissertation about my own concept of Post-Postmodernism in music, which I predicted will become a thing soon, where we'll run out of ideas, and just imitate the past and amalgamate, and music will become a joke. Ever since writing that, I totally noticed it happening. I totally called it yrs before it happened. AI is now the next stage then, and was to be expected maybe, so whole thing is obviously pissing me off though. Hey, listen to the album Joe Meek - I Hear a New World. That album is a total visionary masterpiece, hardly known by anyone. Techniques used must've been off the planet stuff for that time. It's over 65 yrs old. Suppose you could run some of the sounds created through AI, and see what it comes up with from it. Maybe that would be interesting and want to hear what it's like. It may be very different to the other AI stuff. It will still never be as good and pure as what he did though. Shame he'd not really be recognised in the future. Just imitators doing it lazily with AI. When stuff like that exists, who really cares about the future of music? Not me..
So I spent a lot of time with both Udio and Suno and my current conclusion is that they are great and fun entertainment tools, but still a far cry from replacing actual art and artists. They'll probably get there but as it stands they are just audio toys.
He covered that. Look at the progress from the last generation within the last year or two. It will continue to get better. It's already very close to "real" music to the untrained ear.
@@runvnc208 I see what you mean and I agree. It's a really fun tool that can put out catchy stuff. However, when it comes to competing with actual musicians and singers, it's a matter of how customizable or rather 'controllable' it is. These bots aren't doing hot in that front. In fact, I believe the reason their output is this good is because AI has almost full creative control over the process. That's why the results are quite random no matter how good you get at prompting. To get there, they will need another technical leap, as well as overcoming some legal battles. They could and probably will get in time though.
"a far cry from replacing actual art and artists." I'm not sure. It's hard to replace Prince, Stevie Wonder or Radiohead, but 90% of the music on the radio is mediocre music with artists who cant sing using autotune, music made on DAW (computer). For example the "BBL Drizzy" beat is made from a sample from an AI motown style song, it's allmover the internet and people love it. This stuff as been around for barely few month, in 2 years it's over. You can have an Adele, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Bubble AI song as good as the original (with an artist that will never die or loose his voice, scary)
The problem is y'all always forget the exponential nature of AI. If you keep throwing more compute cycles and feed it a bigger dataset the model of Udio or Suno keeps getting better and better with each training iteration. Like the trajectory is pretty much settled. AI right now is pretty much solved and right now the scaling of making the model better is not a fundamental math problem but an engineering problem. And engineering problem can be easily fixed by having capital
Thank you for making a real video. There's so many people who are lying to themselves saying that this is somehow going to be great for music, they're delusional because they can't accept the reality.
Part of this relentless boosterism comes from the fact that AI is probably the only part fo the stock market that isn't spiralling into financial oblivion.
Should making music be limited to only people who can physically make sounds on an instrument and those who understand music theory? Because AI has given the layperson the ability to write and create songs. Truly talented artist and songwriters will always be more popular than AI, but now music is accessible to everyone. I have a hard time seeing why that is bad.
@@TheTacticalBat You telling just nonsence. If you want produce music, you need give it time and hard work. You also need have inner feeling that you express into final product - a song. But you simply isnt able to transform inner feeling or even hearing whole song inside in you.. with cheap text prompt. This concept of being prompt artist is just satanic illusion that controls you. Yes after you hear that prompt transformed into some random song, you brain will give you lot of dopamine bursts so you will feel like god. Avoid such cheap illusion and try to live true life.
If a non musician make music with ai it means he is generating music and not making it . Because a non musician can never make music . The ai can . The point is , if someone would like to make music , he has to put the effort and learn how to do it , instead of becoming a “ prompter “ lol
This was both fascinating, and scary at the same time. The moment that AI took over the arts (music, painting, poetry, photography, etc), we lost our humanity. 😢
@@axonathan Is it though? Based on sampling of some of the recent AI tools out there, it’s not hyperbole at all in my opinion. Everything he mentioned is factually true.
I dunno, I just made a couple nice songs that mainstream artists would never make. Singing about topics the mainstream audience/arttists are too scared to talk about or listen to.
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Making speeches, pictures, music, all that is nothing but clownish entertainment. I will not be impressed with AI until it comes up with a hair growing remedy that actually works. That would be a REAL revolution!
A great song will always be a great song!! If AI is actually lucky enough to create a great song, that actually resonates with the human heart and soul --it will be just that, PURE LUCK!! This is a great entertainment and a lot of fun, but the next step is actually to create DAW's and other workflow machines that take our chord progressions, words , and aspirations to new human heights. Humans write for humans---some will consume this "fast food" but most ears will hunger for the REAL thing. Just my humble opinion. Cheers to ALL the human creators out there!! Long live human endeavor!!!
Anyone who thinks we are screwed oviously overreacted before thinking of COPYRIGHT LAWS. I myself have done MANY copyrights as well as USPTO trademarks over the past 15 years. If anyone thought about the copyrights of AI materials here in the US, they would know that NO copyrights are possible UNLESS the resulting AI-made product has been touched by a human hand. This goes for image generation as well. I think it is time to BREATHE and think of how this will make the music industry BETTER. For starters, Hip-Hop is absolutely horrible today, but I know the heart of it was originally SAMPLING, which kind of slowed down a lot, due to lawsuits. This has the power to allow the sound to be changed there without anyone actual records being involved. That also means that artists and producers in that industry need to get creative. How about the new guy just starting out on the guitar? He can generate tracks to play to as he defines his style. I still think that people are still going to be producers and people are still going to play their instruments. It would be horrible to think that concerts would stop being a thing and people will just be cheering for the DJ who just hits play on a bunch of AI music at a music fest. By the end of the day, I still think we will still support REAL artists, but I also think that those who afraid of the tech will be the ones left behind.
This is the new music revolution all over again, now the public can make/create their own music without being forced by the radio and labels. It's a new golden age where we can forge our own music for the better.
Scary indeed, but this is no different than anything else at all! There are many examples for that: Working/performing/studio musicians were already replaced with sample libraries. That's just one example. Bands and ensembles were replaced either by DJs or one man band arranger keyboards that can also be used for recording purposes. This is hardly shocking at this point! In fact, what makes anybody thing there won't be an AI model that can accept much more musical input from a user as a prompt. Say, the user puts: Make a pop ballad in the key of Fm, use the following chord progression, repeat the chorus twice and modulate to the key of such and such.. and so on! What makes anyone think this type of tech is not going to be available next Monday?
The difference is that one was people replacing other people and evolving. This is something else. It's removing the human from the equation entirely (except for the few who profit from it). But you are correct that capitalism has essentially been driving real art into oblivion for some time. That was already hard to find in this kind of economy. But the new economy is entirely of a different scale. It's more like techno feudalism and we all just became the peasants and the slaves
@@MattAngiono But not really. Companies have hired people and developed various technologies that ultimately eliminated many jobs altogether. Many of those positions don't even exist anymore. This applies to both the music and film industries, which I have been a part of as a professional musician for the past 30 years. Some key positions have been reduced to just ONE person doing multiple tasks. This is simply an evolution of how things began to change in a particular direction. The only thing that has changed is the rate at which these changes are evolving. This is absolutely new!
@@lgbtqarchives well, the rate means A LOT! In the past, with the turn over, there was time to find other forms of income for most people and the amount of unemployment was relatively stable (though it certainly didn't feel that way to those displaced). I'm not saying it was good then. I think capitalism has been terrible for people. But there have still been people keeping the economy going and fitting into the cracks. This new displacement is going to be so huge that that illusion is about to be shattered. For people paying attention, it already has been, as with the creator of this video. This economy can no longer function in the way it has for hundreds of years. But we haven't yet figured out how to give people an opportunity to make a living when there aren't jobs. I'm fine with having less workers, but without another way to survive and provide for a family, this is going to be very disruptive. In the end, it can be a good thing, but that requires a whole new type of economy and value system. The issue is that big tech already realizes this and has some horrific plans to deal with the situation. They have already built techno feudalism and intend to only make it worse. They own everything... We own nothing, but somehow are "happy"?!? Sounds like they are also going to have to brainwash us
If I take the perspective of a client - there is no reason to hire a musician anymore to compose music for my video or film - especially on small budget productions.
If you ever worked with a client, then you should know that they usually don’t know what they really want and can’t describe it accurately. They still need someone who would understand their gibberish and get them the results that would suite the project.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф so true. But for my short films I cannot afford to hire a musician and pay properly because I do not have the funds. Luckily now I can use AI and luckily I know what I want. If I had the funds though I would still hire a very good musician, but good quality is still expensive (and it should be). I am doubtful that AI will become better than outstanding musicians but who knows, maybe it will. The future will tell...
@@НикаК-ъ4фYes and that is where musical prompt engineers come in. Also your client can now have 50 different versions to choose from by the end of the week.
I'm an EDM producer and use Udio as the main tool to produce all my music. My last track took me 4 days of work to create. 90% of the time was spent inside Udio, where I had to ask Udio to make around 1000 music clips before the 4-minute track was completed to my liking, and that's my art, my creativity right there, unlimited by technical stuff and unlimited by my lack of vocal/singing capabilities. AI frees me from having to know technical things about how to program instruments, notes, accords, scales, mixing, etc. Still, I need to write the lyrics and pick and choose the AI-generated music clips based on my musical taste, what I hear, and my idea of what makes a hit song. I spend 90% of the time being creative with Udio AI and 10% doing the arrangement and mastering inside the DAW. With AI, my creativity is no longer limited by my technical skills, and it's fantastic. I'm a much happier and better musical producer now that I can do a complete EMD track with female vocals and not depend on others. I no longer rely on singers or rappers and get to keep 100% of the royalties.
@@JaviermpgomI don't care what people think; as far as I know, I'm already an artist/creator when I'm writing the lyrics. So, by definition, I'm a composer, and if that was all I did, I would, by law, be entitled to 50% of all royalties of any musical project I co-work. The rest of the musical work I do is mostly about having the taste to pick the AI-generated music clips that make me feel the emotions I'm looking for. What I care about is the final output. I could do all musical work by hand and release some crap-sounding music without AI because it would take 10 years to learn all the technical stuff. I would have to spend another 10 years learning how to sing and another 10 years becoming a musician and playing all the instruments I use without a computer. It is impossible in this lifetime, and who in their right mind would be requiring all this from themselves to satisfy some third party's opinion of what makes an artist? And after all this 30-year learning process, I would be paid $0,005 per stream... What a joke! So, in your opinion, to be a creator or artist, one must do it all without using technology? Dude, all music producers use technology, starting with a computer, a DAW, plugins, etc... We are in 2024 and not in the 19th century. Most newer versions of musical plugins incorporate some AI to assist in writing the notes, mixing, and mastering. But hey, it's your choice if you prefer doing your art like a caveman in the Stone Age doing paintings on the cavern wall.
@@ellonzi I can see your point. Techonlogy envolves and the way of making music changes with time. Personally, I use most of the things you mentioned: daw´s, plugins... However, I think that the line must be drawn somewhere, and for me, that is IA. Also, you say you´re entitled to 50% of the royalties of the music you make. However, what does that mean in a world where ANYONE can make pretty much the same thing you do? I think your (and everyone´s) creations will have no value, as good music will lose its ´scarcity´´ and, therefore, become meaningless. I just accept I will probably never write a book, create a tv show or become a photographer. That is fine, that is what makes me admire the people that can do such things and truly enjoy their work.The day when everyone can do them will be a sad day, at least for me.
@@Javiermpgom Music lost its scarcity years ago before AI existed. It all started when DAWs, plugins, and Autotune became household items anyone could download for free on pirate websites. And also thanks to all the free UA-cam tutorials... Also, Spotify has been paying artists pennies for years... Anyone can access the same tools, but the output will continue to differ. AI will spit out different things depending on your input; for example, the lyrics you input influence the sound because the AI tool matches the notes to the sound of the words and the mood you're after... Also, making music is only 10% of the work... The other 90% of the work required to be successful involves marketing, content creation, networking, etc... So yes, AI and access to technology are helping many more people do this 10% of the work (the fun part), but don't forget there is the other 90% of boring work that most people don't do. The ones that do these 90% very well are the ones that will succeed. As an ex-record label owner, I have worked with many artists; most are lazy and don't do the tedious work. They want to make music and have somebody else do the boring stuff, and they fail.
@@Javiermpgom Let's remember that making music is only 10% of the work necessary to be successful in music. Only some are willing to do the other 90% of the tedious work with marketing/promotion, content creation, networking, etc. Also, music lost its "scarcity" long before AI was invented, thanks to easy access to DAWs, plugins (through pirate websites), tutorials, etc... Spotify has been paying us pennies for years.
What’s gonna happen is that performing artists are gonna get paid more. Real artist will be paid more. Music is still an art form we’re humans express themselves creatively. Who maybe hurt will be engineers and some genres of music. We’ll see how this happens. I am happy I am singer and producer and I try to mix my songs as best as I can. We’re all are gonna have to step up lyrically and musically. The unorthodox will be the style that gets all the attention. Now I see why the Screen Actors Guild went on strike as a part to stop them from using AI to write scripts for movies. This is sad
No cause there will be more musician's competing for those live gigs pushing the price down. In the world of AI branding is everything, maybe you can sell a t-shirt
I disagree. Spotify killed the music industry with the introduction of $0.003 per stream. You just can't split that 5 ways very easily, and this is why when you look at the top 40 "bands" nowadays, you'll only see maybe 1 or two actual bands. Most of them are individual artists. AI just makes it easier for individual artists to continue to create music without having to split $0.003 5 ways. You can upload the parts of the music that you know (lyrics, guitar, etc.) and the AI will create the rest. If you're a singer, you can split the stems in AI and get just the instrumental track and use a DAW to mix in your vocals. AI is a great boon to artists. Is it also a threat? Sure, but that's true of all jobs. AI is eventually going to replace all jobs. That doesn't mean that jobs will disappear, it just means that people will do what they want because they want to rather than because they have to. It also enables people to do things that they otherwise couldn't. For instance, I'm a songwriter, and I play the guitar, but I can't hold a tune to save my life. With AI, I can make a full song production and it sounds great.
I bit of a naive point of view. Because when you lose your job due to the rise of AI you have no money. It's as simple as that. No money, no live. No gear. Studies said that AI will have a huge impact on the job market in general. We'll see how society will deal with that.
@@xtra9996 the concept of economy and work are going to change drastically over the next couple of decades. What does it mean to work or earn a wage in a world where AI does most of the labor? They are already considering programs like Universal Basic Income (UBI) and other systems to handle that eventuality. Think Star Trek. That's the kind of world we're headed towards. I personally think there will still be jobs, but you likely won't get paid to do them. In the near term, I see a lot of disruption and the government will have to do things like government funded scholarships to help people reposition themselves. There's also going to be the problem of mortgages. Those people displaced will still be on the hook for a home that they will likely not be able to afford with their new lower paying position. I imagine the government is going to have to have some kind of relief program.
@@BruceWayne15325 So when (almost) nobody get paid for their job, where does the basic income for all came from? One important pilar of the economic cycle is income. It's the base of everything. I think you are a bit to optimistic. People are lazy, when there's no need to get up early in the morning they won't do. With your jobs-for-nothing idea the whole economy would brake almost instantly.
@@xtra9996 work and production won't go away. It will just be AI that does the vast majority of it. The income will come from machine labor. This is no different than the industrial revolution, where factories made the vast majority of goods instead of individuals. The big difference here is that the machines will only need babysitting by humans. I don't think jobs are going to go away completely. I think that AI is going to level the playground and make virtually anyone able to do any job. This will cause salaries to drop drastically until there's an averaging across the board. The wealth gap will increase as the low and middle classes get smashed into one.
@@BruceWayne15325 Income generated by machine labor? But machines don't buy stuff, they don't travel, they don't need food, they don't pay taxes(!). So the whole sector of generating income by work will go down the drain. And when the vast majority of ppl don't have a job because they don't need one or because there aren't any they don't have the money to buy goods. They might be able to satisfy their basic needs, not more. A UBI has to be earned first. And for this model of income you need a huge amount of money to be distributed. In the end it's like a Perpetuum Mobile, it can't work, at least not in our capitalistic world. My admittedly pessimistic prediction: AI and industry automation / robotics will destroy a lot of jobs, including those in the creative domain which will lead to a rise of poverty. Here I agree with you: the middle class will drop down to the lower class. And then, somewhere in the feature, they will be riots when the society / the politicians are unable to develop a post-work social and economical model. The question is if there's enough pressure from the society to force the governments to take action. And here again, i'm pessimistic. What will happen is the development of a police and surveillance state to oppress the poor. We can already see it's beginning.
What might help is if the AI developers made the AI to output Chord symbols with the lyrics and MIDI tracks along with the MP3's so that one could use the AI to get a first cut and then edit the MIDI to personalize it much the same way that many use ChatGPT to write a first draft.
@@RonLWilson then play the rest by ear lol 😂. this is where being a good producer comes in. or use melodyne to get the midi of the audio file. or scalar
... but they won't make any money. That was not an issue for me as a production music musician because the money became secondary when I saw how little money it brought in and moved to something else. I just thought of it as a token of appreciation once I saw no possible future ahead. But some people rely on it and that's already started ending for many of them. I give it a year at the most before stock music becomes obsolete and music sync licensing starts its down hill slide. Music consumers don't care how the music is made and Ai is both cheaper for them and faster to produce while the quality these days is basically the same as a whole.
They can take all the shortcuts they want, from what I learned with 20+ years of musicology is that they always get exposed at some point and fall. Sure it’s gonna shake the actual shit show that is the popish music industry lately, but even for compagnies that are gonna use it people are gonna feel it and slowly stop caring. Music has always been circling, I’d argue that the human side of things is gonna come back stronger than before at some point. Another thing for sure we ve been seeing the effect of boycotts lately, latest exemple is the dumb move of waves that nearly cost them everything, lots of us won’t even care for products that are related to this. The scenarists are already struggling for a couple of years because of ia, especially for streaming platforms the result? A desert of lame cinematography that is costing them billions, I mean last year has to be the worst in terms of cinematographic excitement. But nothing surprising there, I’m a composer and I already knew 10years ago that it was collapsing, they use premade patterns in movies for years now, which means composers have really narrow corridor to navigate mark my words it will circle back to experience and human touch. As for the masses that will be caught in the robotic brain dead agenda of the big corporations it is what it is, but if you expected to make money from this crowd it was on you to begin with and I mean no disrespect we are all learning here. I don’t know what you maestros will do, but for me? I’m gonna keep one hand on the ai train and the other on learning as many skills as I possibly can I wish you guys the best from the bottom of my heart cause I know it’s gonna be a rough ride but if we communicate and stick together we ll create our own network, bakers or traders that will suddenly decide to pretend to be a pop star thanks to suno or whatever will be a little joke on the side cheers 🍻
After seeing this video, I started using Udio and here are some songs I produced with it my words: www.youtube.com/@magnifico372/videos ua-cam.com/video/-nv3TM2zaVI/v-deo.html Udio's words: ua-cam.com/video/XMLjVK03wOo/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/zjxLDsKvZEY/v-deo.html with a poem by Baudelaire: ua-cam.com/video/CF3sPTgMSmM/v-deo.html
Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI: Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html Dark music of my composition: ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html My orchestration of existing songs: ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
@@FoliaSound Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI: Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html Dark music of my composition: ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html My orchestration of existing songs: ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
@@Llamazalt Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI: Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html Dark music of my composition: ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html My orchestration of existing songs: ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
What gives you the right to “steal” from Bach, Mahler, and all the composers who came before you while others cannot? I prefer human made music but don’t try to claim that you own the right to imitate and learn from history, style, and genre. Everyone, including those who develop AI, has the right.
It’s also pretty selfish how he says he felt nothing when chat gpt and midjourney took over the world but now that sink has arrived he expects protests? It was a good video but wow this guy is seems way too entitled.
I’ve been saying this for years now & posted about it. People are only starting to understand it now more. I’m a multi-instrumentalist, composer/producer, pro artist dj, general designer, artist, 3D modelling etc. Since lockdowns etc my work & gigs has been in trouble & now it’s just f**ked while I’ve been on benefits unable to get work. My Music Library work I’ve been doing for many years also f**ked! This is people’s heart & soul, it effects their mental health! Nice Chomsky quote later in the video bro. I’m starting a campaign to raise awareness, also I will be trying to arrange a appointment with a member of parliament(MP) to discuss all this serious concerns! It’s OUR LIFE AND OUR JOBS! Gonna be the ghost of Frank Zappa fighting against this bs as best I can even if I think it’s a lost cause! Too many idiots out there that will be using this already & other A.I art platforms! F**k all this shit man! You’ve said a lot of things I say! No one protests but everyone else does! No one cares about the arts in general! Very sad! 60% of jobs will not be safe from A.I & Humanoids by next year! The matrix literally awakened already the past few years! We are under attack in so many ways in life! Kurwa mac! There are also some pop artists trying to take legal action for copyrights. Anyway I understand & relate with your frustrations with it all as I deal with it too. Things not looking good with the WHO Worldwide Pandemic Treaty, the push of H5N1 virus again & possible G5 Geomagnetic storm forecasted for 2025 which could cause grid system failure with blackout. Lawlessness implemented in the cities & organised chaos. It’s just so f**ked! Orwell’s hell! Rage against this sh*tty machine! This is the industrialisation of the cyber world! Their NWO!
Thanks for the reply, I meant to say I agree with everything you wrote and I think you made a compelling case however the second last paragraph substantially dilutes your argument by tying it to other problems I feel unnecessarily.
@@miezeken hey man, yes sure I can see where you would see that but that’s ultimately the point. I’m torn between wanting to take action but understand also the other impending dooms we face as a people more then just A.I threat and our lives/jobs. It’s quite a layered cake of issues up head, the WHO global pandemic treaty, H5N1 avian variant being pushed again currently or Disease X talks, the forecast for a super solar flare(G5) by 2025 which could cause grid system failure, cyber slavery, Great Depression part 2 etc. hope that puts it into focus man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
You know what can't be replaced by AI? Live performances and 1 to 1 teaching. Instead of obsessing about being replaced: adapt, struggle, survive. Automation is something that is going to affect us all, and has been changing the world for 200+ years. All the laborers when replaced simply moved on to other work. Art has always been a niche, and maybe it just is not becoming sustanable to be "just an artist" anymore like it's not super sustainable being a blacksmith, but it does require lots of skill. I'm not going to tell you i have a solution, I'm just saying it's a problem that the regular working class HAS BEEN dealing with. Good luck.
Don't be so sure. Sooner than you can realize, AI will learn on music stars and easily replace them with robots which will have uncanny identical appearance - robotic clones. And, one by one, such cloned artists will 'disappear' but few will care as their masterful ai robot clone will be performing in their places, and this is how many former pop stars of yore will also be replicated, with the angle they will be immortalized forever. Do not under estimate the ability to entirely replicate humanity; it is a matter of the tech getting to each point of development, and greed will push many to keep along such threatening paths. The issue is that people think too highly of themselves, and do not realize our vulnerabilities. Yes, every person is unique, but that uniqueness, in the right hands, can be studied and eventually realistically duplicated - bio-ai it will be, as in biological ai, that will replace lives musicians, making their corporate human owners initially very wealthy, as the bio-ai are pennies on the dollars compared to the normal costs of human music performers. There will even be some individual unique ai personalities who will captivate the world with live performances, we really are on the brink of extinction.
@@viviangendernalikI don't know if they'll ever be able to properly "capture" the human essence. They can replicate it to a very high degree, but as far as I can tell, I don't think they'll ever REALLY think like us.
I am a music hobbyist and a beginner, but its still very demotivating knowing, that everything that I am learning right now and I am spending huge amount of my free time doing so, is getting less and less valuable because I can already generate better tracks then I am able to make. I am graphic designer by proffesion though and the exact same is happening in that field. Basically every damn creative thing is endangered because of that. Weird times.
Karma is happening, the coders that created this abomination are themselves being replaced by AI as we speak. On a positive note, musicians were really peed off yeas ago when DJs took most of their work, but there is still work out there even now. Learn to sing or play an instrument really, really well. You'll have a unique style, and AI can't compete with that.
@@ladas3509 there is exactly the same amount of musicianship that every cover band has. The only difference is that, instead of covering a song from the Beatles, Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, I can cover an AI song with lyrics I wrote.
@@lavillenouvelleSorry i am not trying to bash your creative process and this might be my biased view. But, if you are using AI to generate music and then simply recreating it from its output, I dont see that as artistry. The beauty (even I dont really listen to them) of cover bands is band mates being able to play their instruments and playing it live etc. The coordinated effort of different people playing together. Or revivals when the original band is no more. Creating something new while letting a machine create it for you is neither original work or cover band, its a weird thing in between. This is just my opinion though, do whatever you want. If you like it, who am I, a random person person in the internet telling you something. Good luck.
AI and Music: A Dream Come True for Lyricists?” Since middle school, I’ve been writing song lyrics. Unfortunately, I lack the ability to compose music or play any instruments. Growing up in a financially challenged family, I couldn’t afford music lessons. Now, with an autoimmune disease that has stiffened my joints, learning to play an instrument seems even more daunting. I don’t have the means to hire a singer or produce music to accompany my lyrics. However, discovering AI tools that allow me to add my lyrics, specify a genre, and create a song structure feels like a dream come true. But is it fair for me to publish this music? The video you mentioned raises valid points. I empathize with musicians who’ve dedicated their lives to mastering the craft, only to face competition from AI-generated music. Used correctly, AI could be a powerful tool without undermining hardworking artists. Still, I share your concern about music becoming cheap and ubiquitous. On the other hand, hearing my lyrics come to life is exhilarating-I did write them, after all. While I grapple with the ethical implications, I appreciate the possibilities AI offers. Perhaps striking a balance between human creativity and technological assistance is the key.
I'm an indie author, but this is how I'm using AI..I wanted to make a soundtrack for my book, but there is no way I can afford several bands and studio time for them to put music to my lyrics. However, now I am able to write my soundtrack and have that as a boost for my novel. It has allowed me to bring life to my words in ways that previously were not possible. It isn't taking away a musicians job because I couldn't afford them in the first place, but it is allowing for musical stories that wouldn't have existed to now be fully realized.
Why are you complaining? If you create "stock music", what gives you the right to complain about someone who creates stock music faster and BETTER than you? People with expertise using the tools available in any period will always win over people who don't adapt. This is the story of "progress". Writing on a papyrus was better than writing on a stone with chisels and hammers, ink and feathers sharpened with a knife writing on paper was better than writing on a papyrus, printing was better than writing and making knowledge available to more people, and so on. Chinese engineers figured out thousands of years how to kill people better with gunpowder, then after many iterations the atom bomb was the best thing we had to kill millions with one shot, and on and on goes the parade of "progress". AI is just the next tool. If Mozart and Bach were alive today and had access to AI, they would use AI in a microsecond to flood the zone with 1000x more wonderful music than they have created by themselves in their whole lives. The Beatles would have generated 1000 wonderful records instead of 10 wonderful records. Mozart and Bach and the Beatles would TRAIN the AI to understand and replicate their genius, not hate it. AI will not replace you (the general you, not you specifically, perhaps). But people who master AI will definitely replace people who don't master AI.
if non-AI music stops then the development of music also ends pretty soon, when you feedback the AI generated music into the AI, the algorithms will start to breakdown as they become increasingly generic... I guess they will try to compensate for that through randomisation and some sort of threshold values... but it will go round and round on itself forever... if they aren't able to tell which music was AI generated or 'pre-AI' then they may have some historical cut-off point and choose to ignore new music after a certain date, that could then exclude 'real music' from getting fed into the algorithms in the future... we're in for an interesting ride. But generally, I think you are correct, simply because so much generic music will be generated now, that it will swamp the internet it's going to be really tough for human producers unless they are also performing as a live act.
But why should non-AI music disappear? Even in the worst-case scenario, when all the crooks who make 'art' for money stop doing it, there will still be real artists who create for self-expression.
Exactly, the AI algorithms will become so censored and diluted, all AI music will begin to sound like a hybrid soup of Bach, Abba, and Taylor Swift. Happy little pop songs with subliminal messages. Meanwhile, I'll summon the spirits with an organic broth of horrorscope deepcreep psytrance
@Mopantsu UDIO is crappy as well, it even ruins lyrics from time to time (while singing), especially if it’s not in English then it become more common. You all saying about how fast it progress, but you just lack the knowledge. Computers making music exist for decades, it’s just wasn’t as affordable to masses as it is now. So no hype and that’s why you’ve probably never heard about it. I know about it since 2016, but David Bowie used it in one of his song in 1995, and the first known music composed with computer generation based on learning other’s works was in 1957 iirc, it was a piece for a string quartet.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф For now - yes. But look at how image generators progressed in just 3 years. I'm not saying that it will replace all artists, but certainly most of them will not be able to do it for a living anymore.
@user-vy9ll3jl3v I made a song on Udio called "My Best Friend's Dad," and it sounds like a real country song. Go listen to it. It sounds pretty real to me. It's published on the site.
At some point there will be riots. Social unrest, people on the street, etc. This will probably not help much, but this is when you will know that our lifes are never going to be the same. We will switch to different things. We will have completely new materials on our disposal. We will be more directed towards other people. We will regain connection that we have lost within the last 20 years. We are disconnected from one another. Social media will not replace direct interactions. We will be working on other things than we are working on right now. But one thing will not change. There always will be that person with an instrument, sitting with other people and making their life better. I can not see how this is going to change. We have had our chance to have our 5 minutes on a global stage, but those 5 minutes came to an end. Unfortunately. Sure, some people will still be doing music and others will be listening to it. But not on a current scale. This could have been predicted. More and more people were gaining access to advanced music tools. The better tools of this kind we had, the more automated the whole process could become. However we did not expect to suddenly face a tool that only requires us to provide a title or a story... but it happened.
I was quite disappointed to see many smaller artists I follow completely cut illustrators out of their life without a second thought to save time and money. It was like they showed no empathy for those who were drowning, but didn't recognize they're on the same sinking boat.
@someoneacomputer1905 you gotta be a pro at "how can I make myself the victim here" mental gymnastics if you somehow read my original comment and thought I was implying that... so eh... no obviously not? I was saying that some people have 0 morals and don't care about anyone but themselves but will suddenly cry wolf now that they are no longer safe and pretend they always had a hard stance against ai media. Screw those people.
This is the same argument that is made every single time a new technology breaks through. From the folks that lost their jobs as book scribes, to the horse carriage makers, to the to orators that lost their jobs to the AM/FM radio, to the bank tellers who lost their jobs to ATMs. New technology is just another part of life.
I think music is just going to evolve. When music went digital, classical music evolved into jazz and jazz evolved into pop and rock. So no more I IV VI V progressions and new styles will need to emerge.
Purpose of art is to you evolve into more advanced artist and not cutting the angles. How you became master if everything is done by you just click your mouse? Feeling, listening, imagining and everything is gonna be fd up. We gonna be caveman again.
I hear they said before people will not be losing jobs only people who do not know how to take advantage from AI will lose their jobs. People who cant adapt are the ones who will be left behind always. Also if we are saying that AI is stealing from humans work.. how about before we just do all things manually like writing with lettering that takes a lot of time but now we have fonts that you can just press and you can choose any type of lettering you want. Before people need to send messengers to send messages to other people that are really far away. Now we can send messages in just a couple of seconds saving us a lot of time using mobile phones and computers. You see advancement in technology will always make our lives easier and again people who can't adapt will be the ones who will suffer the most.
No offense intended, but this arguments are ill-considered at best or cultural Darwinism at worst. Of course there's technical progress for the benefit of us all, such as Google Translator, which helps me translate this text from German into English. Or tools for minimally invasive surgical interventions. Or washing machines that operate according to energy-saving standards ... Quote: "Advancement in technology will always make our lives easier." Oh, really!? Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's OK. Maybe some people only notice this when they look down the barrel of a pump gun. But by then it's usually already too late. Saludos 🙏
@@mk-gt5we I respect your opinion. But for me AI or technology doesn't steal his job.. AI doesn't have any motive to steal his job.. People do. I am stealing his job, probably his neighbor is stealing his job because now we are capable of doing what he does. And we are trying to learn how this AI is working so we can take benefits from it. It doesn't mean people who are learning how to make music through AI are bad people but of course we can make it faster than the people who doesn't. Also does it mean we should stop using AI because we feel bad for the people who can't use it or refuse using it. By all means no. You see I think this is how it works they pre-program all musical genres and beats and since AI knows how to speak and understand words they can basically communicate to the user. Think of it as like print on demand but now its Music on demand. Before I don't have any means to listen to my own music that has my feelings and own words on it. But now I can make it personalized. I even made a song for my grandma and nephew. On the topic of technology can make our life easier. I understand that it is not always but I just try to see things on the positive. But its true you can always see negative even on positive things. Its all about perspective and intentions.
@@3102nzain I agree with you: "AI or technology doesn't steal its job ... People do." But AI is the tool that people use to steal the jobs. It's never the tools, it's always the users. Therefor “Advancement in technology will always make our lives easier” isn't true. “Advancement in technology" has no moral, ethical or whatsoever value in and of itself. Technology only acquires this value through its use by humans. And you certainly don't deny the fact that technological progress has so far primarily served military goals, exploitation and/or personal enrichment. It's usually not important what this means for the other side, as long as one's own advantage can be secured. Empathy or a sense of justice are not usually characteristics of “advancement in technology”. Nor is respect for intellectual property or physical integrity. As a musician, I'm happy that technology allows me to realize my art, make it audible and preserve it. But allowing myself to be sucked dry by empty algorithm structures in order to fill their inspiration- and creativity-free pool with emotionless "waste" (because they cannot recognize anything other than the surface and packaging of my art) is very reminiscent of Columbus and the Conquistadors. And all of this just so that a few unscrupulous, antisocial start-ups can line their pockets at my expense - disgusting, but unfortunately human! That's what you are defending with your arguments - whether you want to or not. Nevertheless: Have a nice day and don't be replaced anytime soon by an AI that copies and messes up your creativity and your job. Saludos 🙏
@@mk-gt5we As I said Ai or advancement in technology is not bad its the people that is the one who uses them... depends on their intention is bad. I am not sure how you see that this start up companies are taking your creative work.. as me myself has no real clue on how they really work... we can just assume things here.. as you can see each song has a genre where they belong and I think the AI or their system can produce many beats that belongs to each genre not necessarily created by you (How can you be sure that it copies you really). I can't say to much with technicalities I am not an expert though. In a much simple words I think AI can mass produce different music for each genre because its a computer so before you can make those beats and music they are already in their system. And they are just mix and matching those beats. The only thing that I want to say is technology is just technology and it depends on how people uses it, that is how it turns bad. My hands can be a tool for doing good and bad things the same for any technology. Music generating AI is not replacing people... its the people who uses those apps are replacing people who doesn't use AI apps. It also doesn't mean I am not creative. Because compared to other people who just generate songs from random prompts btw the songs they created are crappy believe me.. I tried that when I was just starting before... but now I do make my own lyrics my problem is I don't have a good voice and I dont have a studio to create my own music. But now even poor people like me without musical instruments and a studio can create music with my own feelings and words in it. Also if you really think the songs generated by the AI is stolen from your own creativity feel free to sue that person. Again this apps are created to help people but feel free to file a complain to any person that will abuse these tools.
@@mk-gt5we can you provide any example of a song or music that you created that has been stolen or copied by these apps for you to think that you have been robbed by this AI music generating apps. Because I really want to understand why people are hating this AI tools. Btw my main source of income is apartment rental... I am safe from AI for now I think and currently making songs is helping me fight my depression also I am sharing the songs to my family... but I am also planning to make money out of it in the future.
That dubstep song at 8:06 sounds very inspired from Pendulum. I think it sort of derives it's references from that artist for this particular generation. Interesting.
as an artist im glad AI is here to compete, people just been making cheap quick buck "art" instead of actually putting effort and love in their works. AI will force artists to be creative again and this is great.
@@markozivanovic117 there shouldnt be a law cuz whos a bad artist and dont put actual care wont be able to profit, but whos good they will profit cuz AI cant do what they do. i know its harsh to not care abt peoples incomes, but i care more abt art and culture and who ruins that dont deserve money.
@@msscott22 i support cuz only artists that put meaning into their arts will survive from this, only the original and good ones. the end of this thing people call as art but is all just easy money will be good for art itself, the generic "arts" are bad but AI will force people out of this since it mostly just know how to do the most common stuff since is all dependent on the size of the training data about a certain subject. so this is why im a supporter.
@@jktech2117 I get your viewpoint, but this tech is going to ruin everything. If you think we have garbage now, just wait, we're gonna have garbage a million fold.
Great video. The impact on musicians will be huge but what about on the music industry in a whole. With this I mean the software developers of plugins, synths (hard and software). If the musicians earn less money they have less money to spend on musical equipment. Do we see less companies or will there be plugins developed by AI?
We already opened the devil's dor, the question is was it worth it. think of the military uses or corn. I warned about it years ago, dont fuck with the devil. AI is a new devil and we created it
@@ewr34certxwertwer agree 100 percent, im an old skool, but this is the future, and we must see it as a tool, a challenge...not as some dangerous monster...regards
If you write the lyrics, you are classified as a composer and, by law, are entitled to 50% of the music royalties. But thanks to AI, you can now do the musical work too (the beat) and get the remaining 50% of the royalties. This ends all the arguments some people are making that by using AI to create music, you are not an artist or creator. Those few lines of text you put on a notepad are all you need to entitle yourself an artist, even though AI creates all sounds, including the vocals. In addition, you are also writing the AI prompts, which adds even more of your influence to the final output. It's as if you hired a musician to do the beat, and he has to follow your instructions. In that case, you would have to pay him between 25% and 50% of the royalties depending on if he's also doing the arrangement, mixing, mastering, etc, but since your musician is the AI, you just pay the subscription to use the AI tool and to keep 100% of the royalties to yourself, you just have to make the arrangement and mastering yourself, which is relatively easy to do with any DAW and a mastering plugin such as Ozone 11. Got it?
Mainstream doesn’t care about your passion or dedication to music. They want another puppet wearing a huge mouse head playing plastic bangers full of drops, made by another ghost producer. This time the ghost producer will be AI…
@@miriumsonos5277 True, but you did reference a mouse head. Could have just said some random mask/head piece. Then you could have been referencing anyone from Deadmau5 to Daft Punk.
Every song made with AI is a song that people enjoy, be it as a joke or because someone who isn't a musical genius has written honest lyrics or any other reason. Any musician who opposed the existence of AI music opposed the very essence of music: that people enjoy it. What I hear in the final chapter of this video, the part about "oh no, these AI's are stealing stuff and replicate it, YOU have been robbed!" is a man who just realized that all this time, he was making money because he was gatekeeping the process of music production. What exactly is it, then, that was stolen from you? Hm? Was it your audio equipment? Was it the sales you've already made with your music? Was it the potential sales you could've made in the future? Was it the song itself? How? Is it not on your hard drive anymore? Has the data been physically removed? "It replicates it!" - and so does anyone who sings along to your songs or covers it. Your intellectual property cannot be stolen because it isn't a scarce resource. If I just draw a random wave pattern in Audacity, and create a sound that way, and that sound ends up being the exact copy of a song someone has produced, I have not stolen anything, I have, by mere accident, created something, with my own labor, using my own property and nothing has happened to the other person. "Intellectual property" is, by definition, a restriction on what other people can do with their own property. let's say I'm an author and i live in a remote village, and by sheer accident, I write an exact copy of Harry potter. 100% identical. But nobody in the village, not even I myself, knows that some british woman wrote the same book years prior. In fact, it could be that your music is already violating the "intellectual property" of some alien on another planet. Face it, gatekeepers, copyright, IP and all the other legal tools you use will fall apart with the AI revolution. AI music will not make musicians, but it will get people MORE music to consume, more art to consume, more of the things they want. The existence of the final product, the piece of music, piece of art, video game or book is what matters, not who has created it. AI will bring more stuff for us to consume, and that is a good thing.
So u think it s okay for machine to take over humans own songs ? If u dont get royalties anymore, then artist and musicians will no longer live. Hes saying that AI is learning to make songs, which means writers/composers soon doesnt have a job. If they dont get royalties.
Hehe, no one is going to have this gold rush forever. Most of the AI community goes for the free stuff because many of us think about it as democratizing access and tools to make creative things. You also can't copyright AI made works. People making things will be sharing and showing stuff because they like what they made. IE what art is supposed to be, priceless. The amount of new generators that come out are a dime a dozen. And every company does the same thing. They offer a lot for free, they get a lot of traction, they start removing the stuff that was free and putting up a pay wall. It continues to get worse, people complain, a new company does the same thing and it goes down the line. Some people pay for a subscription, but most aren't worth it and you can find plenty of people talking about how it isn't. AI is going to be free (as much as anything can be. A bigger thing will be getting people with good computer rigs or subsidizing them so they do have access. Not unlike how internet is near ubiquitous now to modern life to exist and function in society.). Which is the point, accessibility to an incredible tool to make things. Especially when it's going to start taking the jobs people thought it would take first. I get the freak out over losing jobs, that's an understandable one given the world we live in. But I am really annoyed by all artistic communities claiming that it takes away the integrity of art. They're upset about not making money. And whether that's because they need to eat or because the won't be able to buy another car or house, the reasoning is the same. Fear. Art is expression through a tool. That tool doesn't matter. Be it duct taping a banana to a wall or a kid making a stick figure drawing of their family or someone giving a prompt and an AI or commissioner making the product.
Hello, it doesn't have to be bad, you can take advantage of it to be more creative...the technological world changes and one must change with it, adapt or be obsolete. 😮😮
i think it was Picasso who said, "All artists copy, but great artists steal".
I want the iA to clean, cook, build... and people to do arts, and the f****ng market is doing the opposite...
Well said!
😞so true..
So you wanted cleaners, cooks and builders to lose their jobs, but you did not want it to happen to you.... Interesting...
@@gyangting we are in a music channel so we are talking about music, i do not want anyone to lose their job, i think machines (long time ago) and now Ai should pay taxes (their owners corp) so we the people who need to eat and all this human things can live and do arts by getting granted a basic income from government paid by these greedy corporations
@@gyangting If you had machines doing things for you ,then there would be no need for money nor jobs. Do you like breaking your back, just so you can pay taxes to the people that do not care bout you?
I am a music producer myself and I can say with certainty that all music producers are inspired by other music. And that in the broadest sense of the word. Anyone who says he doesn't is lying. So why can't a computer do the same?
There are relatively few people who make money making music compared to the number of people who make music. 99% have never made money making music, but they put a lot of time into it. Perhaps professional music makers are a bit spoiled, because they get money for pursuing a hobby while others do the same without getting any money for it. And maybe the others do it even better. When you do something for money, you have to accept that the world is constantly changing and maybe at some point what you do is no longer so important. That happens in every industry. I would say adapt and move on.
100% agree with you
I agree honestly. And this is coming from someone that lives for music concerts with *real* people. AI, is really no different as an instrument to make music with. People that so vehemently hate it are the ones that stand to lose financially from it. I feel that is disingenuous because why should a certain group of people come ahead financially while others are denied a way to express themselves. I know this argument can be spun backwards, but there is not much stopping you from still making music if you already possess traditional music skills. The same cannot be said for those that have to use AI to make music.
First ChatGPT came for the copywriters, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a copywriter.
Then MidJourney came for the graphic designers, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a graphic designer.
Then Udio came for the musicians, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a musician.
Then AI came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
Want a sci-fi about the shit that'll happen when GenAI gets our brainwaves? Check out my novel Above Dark Waters.
I played with it and it was scary (Some examples on my channel). It was the first time something was 'catchy'. MJ was cool, and ChatGPT kind of bland, but the songs here caught a share of my mind.
Oh and continently forget the Mathematicians and book keepers who faced this back in 1970!
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That was made with AI
Well said. I get what you’re saying.
The tag "Made by human" will become a quality.
What will it mean? Only acoustic instruments played in real time by human musicians? What about multitracking? What is "real singing" and where's the line on that - multiple takes, punch-ins, EQ sweetening, autotune? What about synths? Synths with sequencers? Professional recording engineer, or a basement musician using an AI mixing tool?
It's not going to be as it was.
How to proof it?
No it won't. People couldn't care less how something is made. They will choose the product that best suits their needs regardless of how it's made or who made it.
YES!!! FINALLY!
@@velly027Live performance?
If you're talented, and you got an artistic vision, and your parents don't work in the industry, then these programs can actually benefit you.
Authenticity is dying. Everything is becoming a cheap imitation. Soon I will have a replicant for a wife, listening to AI music, eating a lab grown burger.
:(((
I mean I'm fine with lab grown meat if it means the animal is still alive and lots of animals won't be in pain
@@HelamanGileles riches vont manger ta part ne t’inquiète pas.
@@HelamanGileyou're a 🤡
Simulation & simulacra
I've been a music producer all my life, I've released many many records and I think you should just embrace it. There's no way we're going back, this is just the start. Onwards.
I started writing songs not long ago and SUNO brought my stories to life. But I am not in any way pretending to be a musician, or an artist. I just don't have the gift and the knowledge that you have. Real musicians are needed, and I am sure that after the initial fad, customers will learn the difference between truly custom and randomly generated. Keep it up man, and please do not give up because that's the only true death of music as we know it. Respect.
I am a musician, and AI is helping me a lot. Now I have an infinite amount of original music to cover and play live, without worrying about copyrights. And instead of singing songs about broken hearts and gangsta rap, I can sing cover songs about whatever I want.
I'm a graphic designer and webprogrammer for 20 years. My biggest hobbie is music. My world is actually turned upside down. It's pretty wild to process. Implemented a lot of AI into my workflow, it makes stuff easier now but I know their are so many people that will be affected by this. The biggest thing is that it gives me a huge feeling of disrespect to ... hard to explain ... mankind. It's like washing away all the conciseness, the admiration for real art. I guess you know my I mean. I need stop writing and talk to Chat GPT about my crazy thoughts ... Wish you the best!
I think it feels like that becasue of the initial influx of "garbage content" not becasue AI is bad but more becasue people are literally trying to produce "digital waste" that no one really enjoys. But that's like social media being filled with shiitposters. The quality of the content is dependant on the one producing it.
Give ME a FN Break!!!!!!!!!! ALL the Holier than thoug "Artists"! YOU use sysnthesizers, DAWs. computer generated intruments from guitars to drums and MORE when YOU create your songs! YOU do NOT create songs totally devoid of help from Computers and the AI is just an extension of that. BOTTOM line is that it will mean MORE people can become song writers writing their own lyrics who do not know how to play an instrument or pay for their own band. And for live bands it means they now have an OVER abundance of songs that they can sing live by making deals with the song writers. The Genie is out of the bottle and it cannot be put back in. AI will enhance artists and not kill them!
Coders are becoming obsolete also now. Amazon just laid off hundred of its coders. Ai code generators can produce about the code about 50-75% of the way now and its only getting better every year. We will still always need people to oversee it but far less than before.
@@ElBamfo Lots of ok and subpar content.
You should not compare to waste the work of a professional designer! @@ElBamfo
As a game developer I know it won't be long until they do the same with games. Guess I will have to just settle with making what I want to make regardless of AI.
Same with 'Good music' also I can play live and earn!!!!
Exactly @lennysmileyface and let me just say that you may even find AI useful to you and help you make what you want to make. There's certain things AI can do that you might not have thought of. You can always use AI to iterate out ideas - and pick out parts you like, and then reproduce and integrate them into your gamem music using your traditional workflow. the most important thing about art and music is that the artist is able to translate their imagination into reality and make what they want to hear or say what they want to say. Whether or not society rewards that with money should have no bearing over what you make - or else you are no longer making your own art - you're simply creating a commodity chosen by market forces which inevitably alienates you from your work and makes you disinterested and not put soul into it.
It's better when people make art because they wanted to make it not because it's what someone else is willing to pay for - in that case its not your own art its the customers' art that you're just being directed to make for them.
@@fast_harmonic_psychedelic Yeah I definitely agree. I have a vision for the game I want to make. If it made money it would be nice but if not at least I made something.
agreed i have some same mindset. im interested in doing everything. when i first decided to try to learn how to use google colab it was surprising going from thinking i would never be able to program anything to knowing python just because i was forced to learn it in order to train a marxist GPT-2. then dalle and clip came out and some early art generators and i just adapted to it so fast.. at this point i feel like I can do anything. Any problem i have or code i dont know how to write i can just ask bing or chatgpt to write that part of the code and it always works. nothing is out of my reach. Soon I'm going to figure out how to get AI to control the python terminal in blender and see what it can do.. Im also making psytrance by hand in the daw, making animated psychedelic music videos that react to the psytrance, and also making AI music singing About me making music videos and making psytrance lol. or making ai music about the pharmacy i go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when i got there and her telling me to send it to her and gave me her personal number lol.. Its not a threat to me -- its just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that i can somehow monetize AI music. Why should i make money on something i put no effort or time into? The way i see it- AI music should not be commercialized, people should just make AI music to make the music - not to get some cash reward .. i just enjoy hearing the music that didnt exist..
I wanted a song that sang by two singers male and female, the female in english the male in russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair , she loves him but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. she says his hypersonic speed is her creed. Lol
This would NEVER EXIST if i didnt create it with AI but now it does exist and some day someone will find it as funny as i do, and we'll listen to it while hanging out and have laughs over it ..
What else is there besides moments like this lol.. what is this "industry" and "careers" i hear so much about - sounds like a real dream lol. The comments in this video look like true happiness lol...
Capitalism destroys everything good but you dont need to slave art to the service of capitalism, instead you should slave capitalism to the service of art like I do :P
@@lennysmileyface
Agreed, I share a similar mindset. I’m interested in doing everything. When I first decided to learn how to use Google Colab, it was surprising to go from thinking I would never be able to program anything to knowing Python, just because I was forced to learn it to train a Marxist GPT-2. Then DALL-E and CLIP came out, along with some early art generators, and I adapted to them so fast. At this point, I feel like I can do anything. Any problem I have or code I don’t know how to write, I can just ask Bing or ChatGPT to write that part of the code, and it always works. Nothing is out of my reach. Soon, I’m going to figure out how to get AI to control the Python terminal in Blender and see what it can do.
I’m also making psytrance by hand in the DAW, creating animated psychedelic music videos using AI that react to the psytrance and create something like a dmt trip, and even making AI music singing about me making music videos and making psytrance. like all of this is just because it was cool and i wanted to make it and do it my way.
Or making AI music about the pharmacy I go to being super reliable and fast - at the red light on my way to the pharmacy, then showing the pharmacist the song when I got there, and her telling me to send it to her and giving me her personal number. It’s not a threat to me-it’s just fun and usually funny to make. I have no illusions that I can somehow monetize AI music. Why should I make money on something I put no effort or time into? The way I see it, AI music should not be commercialized; people should just make AI music for the sake of the music, not to get some cash reward. I just enjoy hearing the music that didn’t exist before.
I wanted a song sung by two singers, male and female, the female in English, the male in Russian, both are hypersonic missiles in a love affair. She loves him, but he explains that his trajectory is set in stone and cannot be altered. She says his hypersonic speed is her creed.
This would NEVER EXIST if I didn’t create it with AI, but now it does exist, and someday someone will find it as amusing as I do, and we’ll listen to it while hanging out and have a good time over it.
What else is there besides moments like this? What is this “industry” and “careers” I hear so much about - sounds like a real dream. The comments in this video look like true happiness…
Capitalism destroys everything good, but you don’t need to enslave art to the service of capitalism; instead, you should enslave capitalism to the service of art, like I do. 😄
I remember in the 80s when sequencers and drum machines were the new object of concern. This is light years beyond that.
It´s not comparable because a drum machine has to be programmed by the musician.
AI came to fuck this up
AI is here...we are done.
And the exact same "arguments" used back then are being used now by the anti-AI crowd
Ça change rien pour les artistes de talent si ils sont capables de reproduire sur scène avec des musiciens parce que de nos jours les maisons disques vous signent plus vous laisse seul à tout faire
un studio d'enregistrement ça coûte minimum 100000€
Et une heure d'enregistrement c'est 50 €
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Pour finir un morceau il faut plusieurs jours
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Today, mainstream music is bad. AI will replicate it.
That's great and SO true, but not always.
Sad thing is it's already working. It's already as good if not better than half the soulless mass produced garbage.
@@e.and.f I'm studying electric guitar. For me, AI is great only about vst amp plugins, because is cheap than buy all good real amps, cabinets and pedals.
This is disruptive technology. The legal challenges have just begun and if the holders of rights win, it will just go underground for a while or mutate into another approach. I have embraced it as a way to get my lyrics out using AI as a writing partner. I don't see a way to stop it or hold it back. While I use it there is negative gravity associated with it. However, as a improvisational composer, I play my unique brand of live music and send it out to UA-cam as well and I think for those who can play live, there is always going to be an audience and a market. The next development will be virtual performers and that is already emerging at Mureka where you can have a singer mouth your song on your video. Soon a whole virtual band will be an option. But they are not going on tour or playing live at the local venue. It is complex and there is a lot not to like about the virtual compositions. On the other hand with producers using computer generated (sliced and diced) music segments and autotune the vocals we were always headed in this direction. These services have jumped the shark but I do not see them going away anytime soon. Music is an important part of being human. If we have a good listening experience, we do not (usually) question the source, although that is what is coming, no doubt. Thanks for your passionate critique. But as I wrote in one of my lyrics (Go With the Flow) "You might as well try to hold back the ocean"..... I have lived through several disruptive technologies in my 80 years - semiconductors, LSI, computers, personal computers, WWW, on line services, smart phones and more. This is one of them. We will have to deal with it. All those revolutions seem to speed things up, this will do the same. I think it is another "adapt or be irrelevant" .... do we still have pocket calculators? Hardware becomes an App. Welcome to the revolution!
Damn, it happened so fast. I thought it will take a few more years and now everything is f**ked already! 😢
The audio quality itself is still not there but give a year or two :/
@@razorgarfYou can drop the AI songs into AI mastering programs like LANDR and boom, quality is way better in minutes
it's moving super quickly. 6 months ago half this stuff wasn't even a thing
@@razorgarf Like most, you haven't recalibrated your futurizing neurons for the age of AI. Crank the "exponentially" knob up a level or two, and you'll hit the correct two to three months prediction
@@ItWasntAPhase People often mix up mastering with mixing.
Can LANDR improve the quality of the stem tracks too?
no worries folks, AI is going to replace everyone eventually. the world as we know it is going to change in ways no one can even imagine
That's what I think too. But sometimes I really doubt the billionaires will give up their lifestyles to make a better world with AGI and ASI
Is it going to replace my lovely park walks , is it going to replace my amazing swim moments , is it going to replace my taste for the best food ? Is it going to replace my joy to see a live band at a festival ? Is it going to replace my quality time with my loved ones ? How exactly is AI gonna replace all that in my live ? I guess it is not ! Not at all !
@@elmentor8919Well said. At the moment AI commentary is all about hype and panic harvesting for clicks and views
AI will not replace you, but someone using AI will
@@elmentor8919 obviously I'm referring to work. Cringe comment
My problem is the attitude that these "artists" have regarding their particular medium, whether it's visual art, music, or anything else the AI is now intruding on, they take this elitist standpoint as if they are the sole purveyors and gatekeepers of creativity. I've been using AI for well over a year now, and the stuff that I produce visually, even the few things that I produced using Suno, I enjoy immensely. The thing these artists forget, is that not everybody is a highly educated or well experienced artist that enjoys the subtleties and nuances of whatever art medium there enjoying at the moment. These elitist attitude artists need to realize that 99.99% of the population just wants to hear a good song that makes him feel good, or see a pretty picture that they can say "hey that's cool". Once these artists get off their soapbox, and start embracing this new tool, they'll be able to produce things that the regular lay person will not be able to.
Not everyone can play instruments or sing. And not everyone can afford to pay for training or buy nice instruments. But there are lots of regular Joes and Janes out there who can write beautiful lyrics or wonderfully express themselves in words. But the music industry is so monopolized and structured in a way- that lyricists- unless well connected, won't ever have the opportunity to ever see their words made into song. This is where Ai comes in! And it's beautiful and fantastic!! Musicians are complaining- but they too, are taking advantage of this. I've heard of several local musicians who write their own lyrics- then feed them to Suno, and Suno gives them a blueprint of how to create and perform their next new songs. So musicians will benefit 1000X more from music-generating ais like Suno, then a regular Joe. Because they can actually go out and record it, perform it for their fans, and immediately profit from it. A regular Joe like me can feed Suno some lyrics and Suno can return the most beautiful song in the world, but what am I going to do with it? I have no music connections, no one knows who I am, and even if I were to stream the song to a distribution service, same thing, I have no name, no nothing! It won't be a threat to these musicians who are crying foul. THEY are and will be the biggest benefactors of these AI music generators. For the rest of us, at least we can enjoy our own lyrics put to music on a CD- and maybe pass along to family and friends. Just like musicians as they were growing up, listening and getting inspired by all of the musicians and music before them- a lot of them and their music sound just like other musicians and their music- but it's okay, right? All the Ai did was listen to the musicians and the music out there, and then got its inspiration (so to speak) just like any artist has done too, but then AI does is much better job than them in creating music off of that inspiration (so to speak). And this is what they don't like! Too much greed in the music industry!
Not just stock musicians - very very soon, film composers need not apply. This software can be integrated straight into video editing software.
You mean, into video generative AI software that is already in developement and will pop out within weeks/months. AI will soon (very, very soon) replace EVERY single creative aspect of humanity. We're talking about 8bn plumbers, picker-packers and bus drivers because we will end up exclusively with physical jobs available.
to be honest Hans Zimmer and his 9,000 imitators already killed films scores.
It will still take talented human minds to choose the best of the AI clip generations and put them together properly. If nobody is trained to play an instrument at an early age or trained in music theory, these minds will not exist.
@@EdgeO419 truth
Make better movies? If people can make a more intersting film in a few minutes on their laptop, then I'd rather watch that. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
A lot of musicians lost their jobs when recording music was invented. Movie theaters used to have live musicians. AI was inevitably going to happen as long as technology kept advancing.
Yes and people needs to adapt. It is only bad for the people who can't adapt but for people who are using this technology its good. Unfortunately with this kind of technology everyone can now create their own music. So if you are trying to fight this kind of technology and you are a musician, then you are against everyone now. Because that is the real sense of all this complains... musicians do not want other people to be capable of creating their own music because if everyone can do it then who needs them right??
Time to go to nature where we alla belong. Don’t forget your drums. 🪘😉🏝️🥥
Yeah I feel like a vacation I have been on an emotional roller coaster for a little while it feels like I have a difficult to understand emotion with AI I love how interesting and mind-blowing this technology is but I feel like it hits my ego kind of makes me feel useless I know I'm going to still create music because I love creating music it's just I won't have it as a job probably anymore hopefully I start getting a universal paycheck and that means we all get paid vacation and then we get to do whatever we want in our free time which I'm still going to make music and ambience and I'm still going to make films and other projects I don't think AI is going to change my objectives it might make my goals easier to achieve as well maybe we'll even have human-based platforms and museums and art appreciation for human art and it will all be funded by AI
If only. It's back to regular jobs for us all, making some asshole boss or capitalist rich. After all, in their eyes, that's what humans are there for.
yeah i actually do that sometime with friends .
10 billion people into the nature? That will end up bad... for nature....
it's unstoppable, every job, no matter whether musician, artist, doctor, police, scholar, accountant or programmer, everyone will be replaced by AI. In other words, everyone on this planet will lose their job, or at least their current job sooner or later. That's not a problem of AI or technology, it's a problem of capitalism and social policies.
Until the solar storm appeared.
I fear something of the same, but somewhere along that path there will be chaos, riots and something will change in some way.
Although capitalism has its downsides (Human Greed) it also bought the price of guitars and music equipment down through mass production and private enterprise. The pop music industry from rock to hip hop was not birthed under communist regimes and it’s improbable that it ever could.
y'all need to quit fuckin doom saying... literally nothing an AI can do with music is going to be better than one a human can do, they simply don't have the means. Not to mention AI in it's current form is wildly unsustainable, it's gonna slow down and eventually not even be worried about
@@richardkrispell7904 Yes, communism only brings misery to the world.capitalism brings both progress and some problems.
Thank you for this. I can't tell you how powerfully this hit me. I am a retired software engineer (not AI) and a lifelong violin and guitar player. And recently mandolin. I have enjoyed recording with DAW's for many years, including a lot of work with both external and plugin synthesizers. I had been thinking of re-tooling up and looking to make a modest supplement to my income as a producer via mostly digital tools. I agree, this is now out the window. I may still play in the digital recording world, but I will spend most or my time playing instruments in various groups, sometimes in a show situation. but mostly amateur -- in the original sense of the word -- jams with friends. Passion is still there, but any idea of financial reward is now reckoned out.
Listening to you felt like listening to part of my own brain, so thanks again and good luck.
I completely disagree, it is one of the best tools in history, and it will make a million things easier for everyone. Oh and it's something that's not going to stop, so either you adapt or you get angry at the world for something you can't control. The technology is incredible and fascinating, what is being achieved is historic, and it will benefit humanity, it is already doing so.
As soon as you start to see what has happened throughout history, it has always been the same, when the camera was created the realism painters thought they were running out of work, however there have never been more realism painters in the world that today, and thanks to TECHNOLOGY, they can become known throughout the world without having to have money, all that is required is talent.
If an AI can replace what you do, what you do probably isn't that unique. The music that I have made (mostly hip hop beats) can be made perfectly by an AI, I did not try to revolutionize anything or create anything new, and that inspires me to start breaking the barriers of what I did, of the standard, and innovate by about what exists. This is an incredible opportunity.
People already flood the net with AI generated videos and music. Recording a song from beginning to end may take many hours and AI can spit it in seconds. And it can also "draw inspiration" from everything on internet. I am not optimistic about it. And one day some AI platform will accuse me in copy right infringement just like Facebook does from time to time. They may block 🚫 our music because it sounds like one of the billions of songs AI will generate.
The music industry has been doing this for decades. They get all the money from the musicians work and creativity while the artist receives peanuts. So same story different decade.
They are crying foul, because getting ripped off is not as much fun as ripping someone else off.. it's the end of an era. Good riddance I say...
indeed its just the final step, more obvious, of the same thing, and it won't kill music, art, creativity, it will just help to see the real artists shining among an ocean of automated mass-quick-consumption content!
The difference is that the music industry cannot copyright AI generated music, thus you can use it for any purpose without worry. The issue is that the music industry may generate AI music and NOT tell the public that it is AI generated, then sue YOU for using that AI generated music under these false pretenses....
@@THE_HMRC The first point you made is one of the most important in all of this debate. Say AI comes up with a "hit". Then everyone and their brother can remix, re-publish, perform as, make memes from, etc etc. AI art becomes part of the community common and enriches us all. As to the second part, there must be some kind of semi-obfuscated watermarking required for the use of these tools. That will surely come and these companies already know how to do that and some are advocating for it, as they must and some have already, ethically. And even if that didn't happen, onus is on them to prove they didn't use AI to produce the track. I guess they could hire actors to pose as the artist in question in court - then it becomes very fun to cross-examine their methods and level of talent. 🧠 think on, amigos.
Hello Paul, thank you very much for this video. In my opinion, the chord progressions and arrangements created by SUNO and UDIO are already far above the level of many, many amateur home recording colleagues, including the semi-professionals. There is a sell-off of the last bit of creativity going on. It may be a "great toy" for everyone, even for my six-year-old granddaughter, for example, but the situation for music producers is likely to get worse in the future. I think it is increasingly unlikely that you will be able to earn a fair living with your own music at some point. For those who only do it as a hobby anyway and whose songs more or less just end up in a drawer, it doesn't really matter. Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant. Conclusion: total sell-off of music, for just a few cents per song.
"Whether they continue to put together their own songs or just press a button and have complete songs created automatically is actually completely irrelevant." It may be irrelevant for you, but certainly not for them. There are people who don't see art purely as a business.
As a hobbyist music producer I still see great value and joy in making music. Nobody cares about my tracks and likely never will, but I enjoy creating way more than just pressing a button
That said, try creating something specific. I actually just spent about an hour with Suno and made several great options. But you can use it creatively: eg find the right genre, find good lyrics (create your own), make sketches. I can actually see it as a great sketchpad before committing to a song and doing exactly what you want manually.
It would be interesting if Ableton for example had it integrated and was producing actual tracks with full plugin settings and later allowing to tweak. That would be next level. Perhaps they are working on it :)
@@arseniharkunou tools will become available with these services for professionals to output stems, upload their own content and vocals to 'transform'. Probably at extra cost. Nothing is free in life and expecting to hold a music career indefinitely is delusional.
agree
You’ve never spent one minute of your life learning an instrument
This was already coming a mile away
The AI just fast tracked the death of music making process
Did drummers stop playing drums when drum machine was invented? Do people pay to see two computers play chess?People are in team Human and will always prefer human made over computer made. Perfect is boring. If AI makes those producers to stop making music who make it only for money, then i think there is nothing wrong with it. Rest of us continues as always. Peace!
@@digidopeyou are thick. Don't pretend to have a PHD in philosophy with your big words and bald predictions
@@musicpatrickmusic It is what it is. We will never stop making music and playing it live.
@@digidope The drum machines didn't replace drummers argument is a crass and silly, since all drum machines did is provide another tool for musicians to create a rhythm track. As such, a whole new aesthetic was created that while, it intersected with previous forms, could never adequately replace them. Also, one needs skill to use a drum machine to the degree that someone like Aphex Twin would. AI doesn't just replace a part of music production/creation, it takes over the whole process and does away with the need for skilled practioners of the craft entirely. This is completely different to replacing or in some cases augmenting a certain part of a piece using technology.
@@musicpatrickmusic what were the big words he used? Invented? Or was it Prefer? I keep reading his short paragraph and I cannot fathom which word you could've possibly defined as "big". Oh shit... did I just use a big word?
Hate all you want.... a beautiful prompt yields beautiful results. I treat it like any collaboration. I have no shame....I'll beat the ai by offering
I’m an illustrator. Midjourney came for me last year and took several jobs out from under me and everyone told me, “adapt”.
We’re all meant to scrub toilets while the machines do all our creative and leisure activities.
a man that scrubs toilets is more important than a lazy musician
@@EthanWombat13-om1en that toilet scrubber definitely positively impacts more people
@@GeahkBurchill Well, AI first created the replacement of musicians and creators, but it still hasn't been able to replace a bathroom cleaner.
People don't care until it's their own livelihood threatened.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MILLIONS OF MACHINIST CRATSMEN MECHANICS WENT THROUGH OVER LAST 40 YEARS HERE AND THIS GUY WANTS PITY BECAUSE NOW THE MACHINE HAS CIME FOR MEDIOCRE TUNE DIDDLERS WHAT WHY DO YOU THINK THE RUST BELT IS IN THE MIDWEST IF YOU THINK THIS GUY WHINES WAIT TILL WE NO LONGER NEED THE LAWYERS
100% agree with you. Artists, composers, producers, all of us who dedicate ourselves to art, are literally dead (professionally and economically speaking).
And in reality, the fault is not the AI, it is society itself that does not care about the artists, it only wants the product, fast, simple and cheap.
We are facing the chronicle of a death foretold.
Sorry for my English.
Greetings from Spain.
Greetings, man, and let's keep just making music!
Nah, live music will be forever.
Don't worry.
Gen-Z in particuar doesn't give a fuck about authenticity.
We are fine in my opinion.
People can adapt to technology.
Orchestral music became less productive when computers took over music, but music itself didn't die. We made a new art form
Jokes on AI, I was already not making any money from my music!
21:15 Where are the protests? Illustrators and photographers have been protesting since 2022, there's a class action lawsuit going on that has FINALLY been greenlit despite stability and midjourney pleading for dismissal, the data poisoning tools are being developed as well as detection tools to recognize AI generated imagery. The problem though is that this whole time everyone's been ignoring this issue and happily supporting Midjourney and the likes of it because suddenly they were able to get album covers, book covers, t-shirts designs etc for the price of cheap sibscription. Some would say the time to protest has already passed, people have voted with their wallets directly supporting companies that are now developing AIs to replace them. Meanwhile, I'm trying to stay optimistic and seeing more and more groups of people being impacted by this I'm hoping we'll collectively start rejecting anything that was made with generative AI making it unprofitable for anyone to release products made with AI so that human creation and art can continue to thrive.
PS. I feel like we illustrators were at the same place that musicians are today two years ago when Midjourney dropped. So yeah, two years and I'm proud to let you know that many of us are still working. I'm still drawing full-time, I even began experiencing an interest in my traditional drawings. Sure, some people lost clients, but I'm hearing of plenty of artists getting even more jobs because clients are starting to look for something that "doesn't look so much AI-ish". So perhaps it's not all doom and gloom, I think this mainly impacts the stock markets where you don't need anything specific or unique.
PS2. Greetings from Warsaw :)
If you want to stop things using AI. You wont have social media even UA-cam, probably the new phones too or any smart devices... because guess what they are all using AI. So I suggest you to stop using anything that uses AI. So why are you here on youtube? UA-cam has taken a big percentage of entertainment industry from other mediums, don't you know that? Me? I love youtube and I plan to just adapt with the changes. Be true to yourself you just complain on the things that affects you.
@3102nzain I think you're misunderstanding a bit, no one says boycott all AI, this is just about generative AI. There are AIs being used to speed up science and medical research, to help us understand animal communication better, pretty sure no sane person would be against that.
@@ArucardPL Bro the video is about AI stealing humans work from them specifically about music generating AI... so why just focus on music generating AI right? My point is all AI's work can be done by humans but thousand times faster. And I think you said AI is being use to speed up research to help us, right? Music generating AI is speeding up making music for everyone too. Do you see the similarity?Before youtube, only film makers, actors etc can make their own shows... now everyone is capable to make their own content, their own show, their own films. You know what, youtube uses AI too. Do you know how much percentage is affected by youtube on other entertainment mediums, like TV, radio etc? It is big bro. Everyone is trying to adapt bro not just the music creators. Also many people will benefit from this AI generating tools because they can now create their own music. Before music creators can monopolize the music industry because some people can't create their own music. Probably because they do not have the money to buy instruments, do not have the tools to create good music. But now it is a lot cheaper to make. We are now capable to express how we feel by making our own music and listen to the music we created. Example me I love listening to the music and songs that I created by using this AI tools. It makes me remember my childhood and my experiences in life. Isn't it a good AI technology to have? Taking it away means I have no choice but to listen to other people's music. Should I just wait for a good song to be created, the kind that speaks to me? Or create one myself?
Let's think about this for a moment, a musician comes along and writes a new song and that song has a fresh and different style, so a new genre is born.
This genre takes off say like house or techno did, next thing you know 1000's of other musicians are writing tracks using similar sounds and beats.
Are these musicians plagiarising the guy that came up with the new genre?
Just to be clear, I run a small recording studio and write my own music in my down time.
If AI and the androids to come that it will be installed in are writing tracks for commercials, corporate video's etc it will leave the real musicians time to write what they want. I know that I would be much happier writing my own personal tracks than composing some cheesy track for a pizza commercial.
While AI is proving that it can do more and more things a human can let's not forget it will also be cleaning toilets , working down a mine shaft, emptying our garbage bins and waiting on us hand and foot.
So ultimately we will have more time to do what we enjoy, yes it will take a lot of jobs but the decision making and the main creativity will be left to humans and we will have more time for these activities.
If I load up Chat GPT on my computer and stare at it for a week it will do absolutely nothing, but if I give it the right prompt or ask it the right question it can do wonders.
The only problem I see with it is the fact that it can be abused by the wrong people and this is what really needs to be regulated and prevented by incorporating the appropriate safety measures within the software.
Man was never meant to fly....... Just saying.
It's another tool to speed up productivity, I have played with these music models myself and they have impressed the hell out of me as to how good they sound BUT generate 10 or 20 songs using the same prompt and you will start to hear a mass produced flavor to the songs, most of the good tracks that make it to the charts have something unique about them that makes them interesting. Yes there are some that just ride a wave of the genre but if that is what some people want to listen to that's fine too.
As mentioned, drum machines and synthesisers were considered evil by traditional musicians back in the late 70's and beyond, now they are totally acceptable when writing and recording tracks.
It's an interesting time with the introduction of AI at the moment and one that I know will go down in history as a major turning point in our development as a species.
I embrace it and look forward to the things that are to come, both musical and otherwise.
I hope you got value out of my 2 cents worth and no this was not an AI generated response 🙂
Write something new and interesting and they will listen to it!
I’m old as dirt and have a hard time listening to a lot of modern music because almost every track reminds me of something I listened to 20-30 years ago. Let’s see if AI can create a new CCR or Bob Dylan .
The "stolen" argument is a bit slippery. Everybody, since the beginning of humanity, is stealing ideas from others, and nobody ever complained. A simple example. The renaissance was "invented" in Italy and was a completely different style in arts and architecture from the existing medieval style. Everybody saw it revolutionary and better and copied it. It rapidly spread all over Europe.
The ancient Romans "copied" the Greek temples style, developed it further and created an architectural style that it is still copied and used today, everywhere in the world. Would you say that all the government buildings in Washington DC (neoclassical style, modeled after the buildings of ancient Rome of 2000 years ago) are a plagiarism and a steal of intellectual property?
Okay, you criticize AI, that's possible. I was worried about it too, but now that I'm working on it I'm starting to like it too. I have always been busy with lyrics, but I don't sing and I don't play an instrument. AI now gives me the opportunity to bring my texts to life.
But even if you are so angry with AI, what are all those computers and equipment doing in your studio? Doesn't that make your music sound better? It's a kind of hardware AI.
Everything a person invents and makes is to make things easier for people, think about that.
Wow. As a conservatory-trained musician and composer for over 40 years this is just...(no words), but there will still be live performing.
Live music doesn't pay enough to leave my house for
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TL;DR - The cream will rise to the top. People that can write music but can't sing can now create music.
Came from a generational musical family from Motown. I've seen things come, go and stay. Live sessions musicians, synthesized sounds, auto-tune, then fruity loops. It's okay. Music isn't everyone's thing. It takes me at least 3 hours to make a good song with Suno or Udio. It takes me less than that in a studio.
@@reno419rockstar I spend a couple of days in Udio churning out tracks attempting to guide it towards full length songs. Right now it is so unpredictable it is hard work to get any output that fits my ideal of how the song should progress (from beginning to end). I kinda gave up. It is very unfriendly towards those who want more creative control over it's paramaters and output. Hopefully that will improve with time though. I want to be able to output stems, upload my own works to 'transform'. Use my own vocals etc.
@@Mopantsu The things you want will all happen, probably sooner than you think, and hopefully there will be GPU based tools that run locally too. The people who stand to lose the most from new AI music tools like suno and udio aren't the composers, they're companies like Reason Studios, Ableton and Image line. Those companies will be forced to adapt or die, much like how Adobe was forced to add AI powered autofill to photoshop, or be left in the dust by image generators. Right now these web services are just toys, but t hey are very nice toys, and very solid proof of concept for a better suite of actual tools. It's really only just beginning.
Real AUTHENTICITY is going to be HYPERVALUABLE. We will grit our teeth and show them what REAL humans are made of. Excellent video.
I think so too. I also think soon it will be obvious what is AI and what is not. It’s just a hype for a while and it’ll go back to the background and being used as a tool. Which it is
It is and always will be
I don't think so 😢
I feel like all music makers should band together, make a joint fund and withdraw all human made music behind a paywall. They can all get fucked with their AI machines. No computer is bigger than the Source of our creativity. This was a super satisfying video to watch - thanks for making it!
Humans are flesh . And flesh is weak.
Interesting topic. I just wanna get opinion, This is the situation. Jack is an artist. Famous one. He performed Live concert with thousand people watching. One fanatic named Kyle recorded one of the song into his iphone. after concert , Kyle was really inspired by Jack music style. He watch the video he recorded at concert again and again and practice try to learn the same music style. After few years of practice he managed to become pro and finally made his own album (not copying Jack) rather inspired version which he added with other style he learn all the years past. When interview by forbes, a question forwared to kyle, who inspired you? then Kyle says well its Jack from the live concert fews years back. See this is valid case in music industry.
Now suno ai (Generative ai) actually seems using the same model, however it can do it just in 5 seconds with super cheap. Just because it can learn and produce faster, it become threat to all artist in the world? Just becuase real artist cant keep up with the same speed, suddenly it become threat and should have a motion to against it?
Remember not only music industry lost their job, programmers, content creator, journalist many more face the same fate. Why their voice not being heard? because they are normal people that doesnt show up on screen. while artist have the position to influence much more audiences. To put it in simple terms, artist think that they are so special and the rest of the people with their job being threaten by Ai should adapt but NOT Artist.
Just a humble opinion.
Yes and many paid "musicians" have been shameless early adopters of tech and producing corporate junk content for years with zero issues.
Life will definitely be more convenient with AI. Live music will not be replaced by AI anytime soon. So musicians will be doing exactly what they’re doing.
It's true, I compose songs, make no money. I wrote lyrics and gave them to suno with two 1 word promts. Funk Female. and it made a great Funk song. 2 words. just 2.
AI music is a soulless product with no talent. I'd never listen to it. I like stuff because it was made by people. Allows you to connect more etc. The product you created was crap in my opinion.
As an author, I understand the challenge of increasing competition. But just as writers continue despite the influx of new books, musicians must also adapt. Many people don't want to create-they want to consume. Readers read, listeners listen, and viewers watch. Now, there’s more content than ever, and entertainment's rapid pace has caught up with musicians.
This isn't new. Other industries have faced similar disruptions, often aided by AI. Musicians have benefited from these changes, even as other jobs were lost. The key is adapting, just as those before you did by utilizing new technologies.
Real artists will always be in demand, especially for live performances. AI-generated music, which cannot be copyrighted, offers new opportunities. Artists can cover and publish more content without legal issues. The need for traditional setups-bands, studios, producers-diminishes. This evolution raises the question: what are we losing versus what are we gaining?
For me as a writer, AI means more competition. But competition isn't new; it’s a constant for indie authors and small bands alike. What's exciting is the ability to create books, images, and music with minimal experience in these other fields. AI empowers us to produce and market our work affordably, expanding our creative reach.
Consumers benefit from this explosion of creativity, gaining more choices in entertainment. While anyone can create with AI, the demand for genuine artistry remains. Live performances, in particular, gain value. Artists can use AI to enhance their work, breaking through previous limitations.
Personally, I’ve used AI to write lyrics, produce music, and create visuals for my characters-things that were financially out of reach before. AI tools have enabled me to bring my artistic vision to life affordably. This accessibility has opened doors for many who couldn’t afford traditional artistic resources.
AI-created images using tools like MidJourney offer unique character depictions that aren’t possible with stock photos or hired models. This exclusivity was unattainable before AI.
I empathize with the challenges artists face today. Accept the reality and use AI to your advantage. There's always a new niche waiting to be discovered. Embrace AI to enhance your artistry and outperform the competition. Adapt and thrive, as creatives have done with every technological advancement. Let's seize this opportunity and evolve together.
Well put, I agree. Live performances is where the money in the music industry is going to go. Ai can't stage dove into a crowd or cry during a moving performance. That's where the artistry of music will live on forever.
Not only stock music. When artists aren't creating as much music, the instrument manufacturers are going to slowly scale back producing new hardware instruments, as well as vsts. Demand will go down. Unfortunately the general public ear doesn't care if it's AI they're listening to or a human.
Well, they always can still go and listen to human music. It's not like it's going to take them more effort to do so
@@musicpatrickmusic The companies investing in these solutions will do everithing in their power to make it as inconvenient as possible to listen to human made music.
Just like streaming and before digital downloads slowly killed album sales, AI Music will kill human made music because humans want things fast, cheap and convenient and companies with huge budgeds are standing at the gates ready to offer these solutions.
At some point not too far away, we won't be able to tell either.
What?! 😂 Playing an Instrument is still fun. 😃 Despite if there is AI music or not.
Native instruments pianos taking 250Gb disk space for all the piano samples is not the peak of technology though. Pianoteq is more advanced in a way, but even they haven't gone for machine learning yet.
I just made a djent, death metal, jazz piano, funk, quartet song on Suno, which turned out to be so much more interesting and creative than the bland insipid crap I hear on the radio these days.
I see it as nothing more than a tool for my musical arsenal.
Well you got the point there my friend. You made your own song using AI and creators like this one on the video doesn't want that to happen. Because if everyone can make their own song, then he can't make money anymore selling his own song. Making songs won't be profitable anymore for him. Because AI can make songs cheaper and faster and more personalized to your liking and he can't compete with that. But he will realized that he just needs to accept it and adapt. He cant do anything to stop it.
it just another tool, every music creator can use to make music. don't freak out so much. People said the same thing when the drum computer came out, then when Daws became a thing, and still people play instruments. don't freak out so much. be glad u have these tools that can speed up work flow.
True, AI may indeed take away from some of us, but it gives to many more, so essentially it's a good investment for the world.
Let's face it, music was already dead. It was in total decline, something to see the music that is heard today. Full of mediocre artists lining their pockets with shitty music. I am not going to cry for a music industry that preferred money to the mercy of mediocrity. Without a doubt, a tool was needed that would put music on a new level.
I agree. Music had been stagnant for the last 30 years now. Therefore, I don't feel bad for the music industry as much.
I basically think the same, I quitted producing mainstream music in the late nineties because of mediocrity.
At that time, already, there wasn't space for original ideas.
Of course, all the musicians who make their living producing mediocre, standard, commercial stuff, are going to loose a good chunk of their revenues.
I'm sorry for them, but this is an occupation issue, that has nothing to do with art.
I welcome AI, because of its infinite spitting in our faces the mediocrity of "our" modern pop music. This will force us to reconsider, re-think pop music itself.
Moreover, I've never listened to an AI generated piece that really moved my neurons. Pure generative AI music cannot be considered art in any way, in my opinion.
I completely agree my friend
@@LATQueens When Napster hit in 2000, the only way musicians could make money was touring and concerts. I never figured out why the music after that went all suck @ss all the way to today.
@ricktheexplorer I agree with you. But don't forget, most artists from back in the day would tell you that they made most of their money from touring and shows anyway. Record labels would consistently pay artists pennies on the dollar for each album sold.
The AI isn't stealing the music, it's stealing the profession of being a musician, and it's doing it by being better at it. It's awful, but there's no law against it. It might not even be immoral, in the wider view.
Someone on twitter said - AI was supposed to do the tedious stuff for creative people, not the creative stuff for tedious people.
Well how did AI learn? One day I received 120 euros from pond5 . They had sold my entire catalog with them for Ai learning. And I m stuck legally because I had to opt out,but I didn't know... (i dont read all emails...). That is theft. 120 euros for years of production!
@@ekeys6897 That's sounds like a really sleazy policy from that company (I know nothing about them), and I'm sure they have some fine print somewhere that you agreed to, but that doesn't make what they did any less sleazy. What they essentially did was allow an AI to extract insights from your music as part of its training. Sure, it's not copyright infringement and they paid you for it, but there was no negotiation, no immediate consent. It's probably legal, but that doesn't mean we have to like it.
Analogies are difficult and imperfect in this context, but I used to teach at a film school. What happened to you would be similar to my old film school bundling up my previous lectures and PowerPoint slides and using them to train people without telling me, relying on the fine print in my contact to do it. Sure, they send me a payment, but it would still be weird (for the record, they'd never do that).
It seems like all human endeavour is rapidly becoming nothing more than training data for our future AI servants... Or our future AI overlords...
yes, unfortunately i just think that the way music is created is going to change and ai assistance to create will become the norm.
Before using music in their software called AI, they need to download music which is illegal.
@@peacefulman2196 Well, it depends how they got the music and what they did with the music after they got it. Simply downloading music is rarely illegal, though it may have been in violation of the terms they agreed to when they accessed the music. Was the music streamed to a file or recorded from a streaming service? Or did the AI simply "listen" to it via streaming? Was the music taken from a downloading service? CDs? Free-to-air radio? We just don't know. If they broke the terms of whatever conditions they agreed to when accessing the music, then I guess they can be sued (IANAL), but that's not typically a criminal matter. It's not against the law to breach most contracts, but it's often very unwise.
One possible exception is if they decrypted encrypted music in the USA - which might be illegal under the US DMCA, but if they did it outside of US jusristiction, even that doesn't apply (IANAL).
I predict two things - 1. if it's legal for a human to do it (listen to a bunch of music and then create new works inspired by them) then it's surely legal for softrware to do it. 2. By the time these cases work their way through the various courts of several nations, the music industry (and several other industries) might have already adapted, or shrunk, or mostly vanished. I'm not saying that's a good thing.
the massive attack stlye music sounds nothing like massive attack nor trip hop in general, it has far too uplifting tone to it. Scary developments nonetheless.
Agree 100%
if you try that prompt a few times it'll get it eventually
For calculators they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!".... for smartphones they said, "We're F*ED and it's really BAD!"... AI is here and what? 😛
That's a bit naive, don't you think? This doesn't compare at all.
Is music created by humans also a kind of copying? Why does a musician believe that when they come up with an idea, it is 100% their own creation? Perhaps somewhere in the depths of their mind, a melody heard 10, 20 or 30years ago resurfaces, and the musician develops it further. But is this development truly "their own creation," or is it also an unintentional act of copying?
There are many videos on UA-cam revealing that some very popular hits turn out to be skillful unintentional (or intentional) copies. Why is AI treated differently? Why is it criticized? Many people who lack the financial or time resources can become music creators thanks to AI. Yes, giving AI a prompt and expecting it to produce a hit would be naïve. But it is equally naïve to think that everything created by humans is good and high-quality.
The fact is that a large portion of today's human-created music is garbage. It lacks words, message, and melody. With AI, you can input your own words and vision. Result is not 100% AI made... You don’t need to pay for a studio, musicians, or singers to become a music creator. Yes, the music industry will be totally reshaped in the next 5-10 years. Many will lose their jobs, but the same is happening in other AI-related fields.
When using tools like Suno or Udio, does anyone truly think a great song can be created with a single prompt? No, it can’t. It takes 10-30 or more iterations, extensions, and refinements to produce something resembling music. Creating AI-generated music is similar to human songwriting: most of it is garbage, but there are also gems and pearls. Behind those pearls, however, are people with a good ear, strong musical intuition, and a solid understanding of music.
Both humans and AI create good music and bad music alike. Music studios will lose their significance as this transformation indeed, will lose clients, and it’s sad, but that’s the way it’s going. And not just in the field of music-AI is here to stay. Should we hinder progress just to preserve the financial income of a certain group of people? We could, but we don’t have to.
AI will make many aspects of the music industry better because the people behind AI-those who guide its music generation-include a broader range of individuals with quality visions. These people extend far beyond the traditionally exclusive "circles of musicians."
With AI, access to creativity becomes democratized. It’s not limited to those who have the money, connections, or technical resources to produce music. Instead, a wider range of voices and perspectives can emerge. While this transformation might disrupt traditional roles and jobs, it will also lead to a richer, more diverse musical landscape.
AI doesn't diminish creativity-it amplifies it by allowing more people to express their ideas and innovate. This is the natural course of technological advancement, and it’s our role to adapt, embrace new possibilities, and find a balance where human talent and AI-generated creativity coexist and thrive.
AI is a lazy, soulless, talentless product. Music was turning into a joke before AI came along. It becoming post- postmodern amalgamations of stuff you've heard before. Songs likely becoming popular due to the familiarity these songs have, and is basically a musical con-trick. Now AI going to turn it into a complete farce. It's a travesty. It relies on stupid people falling for the illusion of it being genuine music too. The future of music is not good..
@@PEGGLORE I'm a musician, producer, singer/songwriter and A.I is helping me out big time. I can now control it to be able to add my own chords, tell it what instrumental I want to use, and even upload my voice for A.I to use it as lead vocals and backing vocals. Granted, that took me to study pdf about SUNO that goes into details about how to do that, including progressions for any instrument, and for structure of song.
The idea that " just bang some words in prompt button," aand lazy bewilders me.
Sure some will do that but for musicians, singers who can write songs these are tools if you know how to use them to speed up your process to put your songs together without live band. You now can do that by adding your chords, progression, and I don't even have to say what genre cause it knows chrods and progression and tune I uploaded as audio with the voice. I don't know how some using it but it sure looks like I am doing it differently. I'm using my chords, my progression ideas, my lyrics, my voice and it's like having a live band and..I get it down fast, ready to show live band of musicians I am hiring.
@@TheMediaMachine It's annoying. Whatever comment I said here has gone, so don't know what I said. Well yh, go for it I suppose. I'm unique in the sense that I don't care for any new music that's made anyway. It's all some sort of mish-mash amalgamation of things that have already been done to become a bit of a nonsense joke. Nothing particularly compelling to make you excited about music is getting made anymore imo. I'd not be listening to any new music, if there was no AI anyway. AI is just speeding up the process of bringing more of the regurgitated crap more quickly I suppose . It's a shame all the really special, visionary bands and people may become forgotten, lost to time and not recognised by most people I think.
I'm like I am with all of this because about 20 yrs ago I wrote a university dissertation about my own concept of Post-Postmodernism in music, which I predicted will become a thing soon, where we'll run out of ideas, and just imitate the past and amalgamate, and music will become a joke. Ever since writing that, I totally noticed it happening. I totally called it yrs before it happened. AI is now the next stage then, and was to be expected maybe, so whole thing is obviously pissing me off though.
Hey, listen to the album Joe Meek - I Hear a New World. That album is a total visionary masterpiece, hardly known by anyone. Techniques used must've been off the planet stuff for that time. It's over 65 yrs old. Suppose you could run some of the sounds created through AI, and see what it comes up with from it. Maybe that would be interesting and want to hear what it's like. It may be very different to the other AI stuff. It will still never be as good and pure as what he did though. Shame he'd not really be recognised in the future. Just imitators doing it lazily with AI. When stuff like that exists, who really cares about the future of music? Not me..
So I spent a lot of time with both Udio and Suno and my current conclusion is that they are great and fun entertainment tools, but still a far cry from replacing actual art and artists. They'll probably get there but as it stands they are just audio toys.
That I wouldn't waste time listening to AI elevator music versus the musical greats from the past. AI now is not competitive to me!
He covered that. Look at the progress from the last generation within the last year or two. It will continue to get better. It's already very close to "real" music to the untrained ear.
@@runvnc208 I see what you mean and I agree. It's a really fun tool that can put out catchy stuff.
However, when it comes to competing with actual musicians and singers, it's a matter of how customizable or rather 'controllable' it is.
These bots aren't doing hot in that front. In fact, I believe the reason their output is this good is because AI has almost full creative control over the process.
That's why the results are quite random no matter how good you get at prompting.
To get there, they will need another technical leap, as well as overcoming some legal battles. They could and probably will get in time though.
"a far cry from replacing actual art and artists." I'm not sure. It's hard to replace Prince, Stevie Wonder or Radiohead, but 90% of the music on the radio is mediocre music with artists who cant sing using autotune, music made on DAW (computer). For example the "BBL Drizzy" beat is made from a sample from an AI motown style song, it's allmover the internet and people love it. This stuff as been around for barely few month, in 2 years it's over. You can have an Adele, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Bubble AI song as good as the original (with an artist that will never die or loose his voice, scary)
The problem is y'all always forget the exponential nature of AI. If you keep throwing more compute cycles and feed it a bigger dataset the model of Udio or Suno keeps getting better and better with each training iteration. Like the trajectory is pretty much settled. AI right now is pretty much solved and right now the scaling of making the model better is not a fundamental math problem but an engineering problem. And engineering problem can be easily fixed by having capital
Thank you for making a real video. There's so many people who are lying to themselves saying that this is somehow going to be great for music, they're delusional because they can't accept the reality.
Part of this relentless boosterism comes from the fact that AI is probably the only part fo the stock market that isn't spiralling into financial oblivion.
Should making music be limited to only people who can physically make sounds on an instrument and those who understand music theory? Because AI has given the layperson the ability to write and create songs. Truly talented artist and songwriters will always be more popular than AI, but now music is accessible to everyone. I have a hard time seeing why that is bad.
@@TheTacticalBat You telling just nonsence.
If you want produce music, you need give it time and hard work. You also need have inner feeling that you express into final product - a song.
But you simply isnt able to transform inner feeling or even hearing whole song inside in you.. with cheap text prompt. This concept of being prompt artist is just satanic illusion that controls you.
Yes after you hear that prompt transformed into some random song, you brain will give you lot of dopamine bursts so you will feel like god.
Avoid such cheap illusion and try to live true life.
If a non musician make music with ai it means he is generating music and not making it . Because a non musician can never make music . The ai can . The point is , if someone would like to make music , he has to put the effort and learn how to do it , instead of becoming a “ prompter “ lol
This was both fascinating, and scary at the same time. The moment that AI took over the arts (music, painting, poetry, photography, etc), we lost our humanity. 😢
I wanted AI to do my laundry and clean my house allow me to be more time to be creative not the other way around
@@djjdinidaho that's exactly it !
Hyperbole bs
@@axonathan Is it though? Based on sampling of some of the recent AI tools out there, it’s not hyperbole at all in my opinion. Everything he mentioned is factually true.
@@djjdinidahoeverything is upside down in this world
I dunno, I just made a couple nice songs that mainstream artists would never make. Singing about topics the mainstream audience/arttists are too scared to talk about or listen to.
Making speeches, pictures, music, all that is nothing but clownish entertainment. I will not be impressed with AI until it comes up with a hair growing remedy that actually works. That would be a REAL revolution!
A great song will always be a great song!! If AI is actually lucky enough to create a great song, that actually resonates with the human heart and soul --it will be just that, PURE LUCK!! This is a great entertainment and a lot of fun, but the next step is actually to create DAW's and other workflow machines that take our chord progressions, words , and aspirations to new human heights. Humans write for humans---some will consume this "fast food" but most ears will hunger for the REAL thing.
Just my humble opinion. Cheers to ALL the human creators out there!! Long live human endeavor!!!
Anyone who thinks we are screwed oviously overreacted before thinking of COPYRIGHT LAWS. I myself have done MANY copyrights as well as USPTO trademarks over the past 15 years. If anyone thought about the copyrights of AI materials here in the US, they would know that NO copyrights are possible UNLESS the resulting AI-made product has been touched by a human hand. This goes for image generation as well. I think it is time to BREATHE and think of how this will make the music industry BETTER. For starters, Hip-Hop is absolutely horrible today, but I know the heart of it was originally SAMPLING, which kind of slowed down a lot, due to lawsuits. This has the power to allow the sound to be changed there without anyone actual records being involved. That also means that artists and producers in that industry need to get creative. How about the new guy just starting out on the guitar? He can generate tracks to play to as he defines his style. I still think that people are still going to be producers and people are still going to play their instruments. It would be horrible to think that concerts would stop being a thing and people will just be cheering for the DJ who just hits play on a bunch of AI music at a music fest. By the end of the day, I still think we will still support REAL artists, but I also think that those who afraid of the tech will be the ones left behind.
Adopt or die. There are tons of ways for real musicians to integrate AI into their music.
This is the new music revolution all over again, now the public can make/create their own music without being forced by the radio and labels. It's a new golden age where we can forge our own music for the better.
@@HarryClipzFilmz You mean talentless people putting more crappy music into the ocean of crap.
@@msscott22 You're just mad because AI is better than you at making music.
@@mikehawk1441 It's better than you too.
Scary indeed, but this is no different than anything else at all! There are many examples for that: Working/performing/studio musicians were already replaced with sample libraries. That's just one example. Bands and ensembles were replaced either by DJs or one man band arranger keyboards that can also be used for recording purposes. This is hardly shocking at this point! In fact, what makes anybody thing there won't be an AI model that can accept much more musical input from a user as a prompt. Say, the user puts: Make a pop ballad in the key of Fm, use the following chord progression, repeat the chorus twice and modulate to the key of such and such.. and so on! What makes anyone think this type of tech is not going to be available next Monday?
The difference is that one was people replacing other people and evolving.
This is something else.
It's removing the human from the equation entirely (except for the few who profit from it).
But you are correct that capitalism has essentially been driving real art into oblivion for some time.
That was already hard to find in this kind of economy.
But the new economy is entirely of a different scale.
It's more like techno feudalism and we all just became the peasants and the slaves
@@MattAngiono But not really. Companies have hired people and developed various technologies that ultimately eliminated many jobs altogether. Many of those positions don't even exist anymore. This applies to both the music and film industries, which I have been a part of as a professional musician for the past 30 years. Some key positions have been reduced to just ONE person doing multiple tasks. This is simply an evolution of how things began to change in a particular direction. The only thing that has changed is the rate at which these changes are evolving. This is absolutely new!
@@lgbtqarchives well, the rate means A LOT!
In the past, with the turn over, there was time to find other forms of income for most people and the amount of unemployment was relatively stable (though it certainly didn't feel that way to those displaced).
I'm not saying it was good then.
I think capitalism has been terrible for people.
But there have still been people keeping the economy going and fitting into the cracks.
This new displacement is going to be so huge that that illusion is about to be shattered.
For people paying attention, it already has been, as with the creator of this video.
This economy can no longer function in the way it has for hundreds of years.
But we haven't yet figured out how to give people an opportunity to make a living when there aren't jobs.
I'm fine with having less workers, but without another way to survive and provide for a family, this is going to be very disruptive.
In the end, it can be a good thing, but that requires a whole new type of economy and value system.
The issue is that big tech already realizes this and has some horrific plans to deal with the situation.
They have already built techno feudalism and intend to only make it worse.
They own everything...
We own nothing, but somehow are "happy"?!?
Sounds like they are also going to have to brainwash us
AI won't just be the music industry it will be in every industry
This is the next step in synthesisers. Genie is out of the bottle now, no putting it back in.
If I take the perspective of a client - there is no reason to hire a musician anymore to compose music for my video or film - especially on small budget productions.
If you ever worked with a client, then you should know that they usually don’t know what they really want and can’t describe it accurately. They still need someone who would understand their gibberish and get them the results that would suite the project.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф so true. But for my short films I cannot afford to hire a musician and pay properly because I do not have the funds. Luckily now I can use AI and luckily I know what I want. If I had the funds though I would still hire a very good musician, but good quality is still expensive (and it should be). I am doubtful that AI will become better than outstanding musicians but who knows, maybe it will. The future will tell...
@@НикаК-ъ4фYes and that is where musical prompt engineers come in. Also your client can now have 50 different versions to choose from by the end of the week.
I'm an EDM producer and use Udio as the main tool to produce all my music. My last track took me 4 days of work to create. 90% of the time was spent inside Udio, where I had to ask Udio to make around 1000 music clips before the 4-minute track was completed to my liking, and that's my art, my creativity right there, unlimited by technical stuff and unlimited by my lack of vocal/singing capabilities. AI frees me from having to know technical things about how to program instruments, notes, accords, scales, mixing, etc. Still, I need to write the lyrics and pick and choose the AI-generated music clips based on my musical taste, what I hear, and my idea of what makes a hit song. I spend 90% of the time being creative with Udio AI and 10% doing the arrangement and mastering inside the DAW. With AI, my creativity is no longer limited by my technical skills, and it's fantastic. I'm a much happier and better musical producer now that I can do a complete EMD track with female vocals and not depend on others. I no longer rely on singers or rappers and get to keep 100% of the royalties.
you will never be a musician, an artist or a creator
@@JaviermpgomI don't care what people think; as far as I know, I'm already an artist/creator when I'm writing the lyrics. So, by definition, I'm a composer, and if that was all I did, I would, by law, be entitled to 50% of all royalties of any musical project I co-work. The rest of the musical work I do is mostly about having the taste to pick the AI-generated music clips that make me feel the emotions I'm looking for. What I care about is the final output. I could do all musical work by hand and release some crap-sounding music without AI because it would take 10 years to learn all the technical stuff. I would have to spend another 10 years learning how to sing and another 10 years becoming a musician and playing all the instruments I use without a computer. It is impossible in this lifetime, and who in their right mind would be requiring all this from themselves to satisfy some third party's opinion of what makes an artist? And after all this 30-year learning process, I would be paid $0,005 per stream... What a joke! So, in your opinion, to be a creator or artist, one must do it all without using technology? Dude, all music producers use technology, starting with a computer, a DAW, plugins, etc... We are in 2024 and not in the 19th century. Most newer versions of musical plugins incorporate some AI to assist in writing the notes, mixing, and mastering. But hey, it's your choice if you prefer doing your art like a caveman in the Stone Age doing paintings on the cavern wall.
@@ellonzi I can see your point. Techonlogy envolves and the way of making music changes with time. Personally, I use most of the things you mentioned: daw´s, plugins... However, I think that the line must be drawn somewhere, and for me, that is IA.
Also, you say you´re entitled to 50% of the royalties of the music you make. However, what does that mean in a world where ANYONE can make pretty much the same thing you do? I think your (and everyone´s) creations will have no value, as good music will lose its ´scarcity´´ and, therefore, become meaningless.
I just accept I will probably never write a book, create a tv show or become a photographer. That is fine, that is what makes me admire the people that can do such things and truly enjoy their work.The day when everyone can do them will be a sad day, at least for me.
@@Javiermpgom Music lost its scarcity years ago before AI existed. It all started when DAWs, plugins, and Autotune became household items anyone could download for free on pirate websites. And also thanks to all the free UA-cam tutorials... Also, Spotify has been paying artists pennies for years... Anyone can access the same tools, but the output will continue to differ. AI will spit out different things depending on your input; for example, the lyrics you input influence the sound because the AI tool matches the notes to the sound of the words and the mood you're after... Also, making music is only 10% of the work... The other 90% of the work required to be successful involves marketing, content creation, networking, etc... So yes, AI and access to technology are helping many more people do this 10% of the work (the fun part), but don't forget there is the other 90% of boring work that most people don't do. The ones that do these 90% very well are the ones that will succeed. As an ex-record label owner, I have worked with many artists; most are lazy and don't do the tedious work. They want to make music and have somebody else do the boring stuff, and they fail.
@@Javiermpgom Let's remember that making music is only 10% of the work necessary to be successful in music. Only some are willing to do the other 90% of the tedious work with marketing/promotion, content creation, networking, etc. Also, music lost its "scarcity" long before AI was invented, thanks to easy access to DAWs, plugins (through pirate websites), tutorials, etc... Spotify has been paying us pennies for years.
What’s gonna happen is that performing artists are gonna get paid more. Real artist will be paid more. Music is still an art form we’re humans express themselves creatively. Who maybe hurt will be engineers and some genres of music. We’ll see how this happens. I am happy I am singer and producer and I try to mix my songs as best as I can. We’re all are gonna have to step up lyrically and musically. The unorthodox will be the style that gets all the attention. Now I see why the Screen Actors Guild went on strike as a part to stop them from using AI to write scripts for movies. This is sad
возможно пора бить уже тревогу композиторам, аранжировщикам, продюсерам, микс и мастеринг инженерам....
No cause there will be more musician's competing for those live gigs pushing the price down. In the world of AI branding is everything, maybe you can sell a t-shirt
It's already reached a price I can't afford to pay.
Very easy to play by ear no need for midi tracks , if a musicien can’t figure out 4 chords he better go doing something else
I disagree. Spotify killed the music industry with the introduction of $0.003 per stream. You just can't split that 5 ways very easily, and this is why when you look at the top 40 "bands" nowadays, you'll only see maybe 1 or two actual bands. Most of them are individual artists. AI just makes it easier for individual artists to continue to create music without having to split $0.003 5 ways.
You can upload the parts of the music that you know (lyrics, guitar, etc.) and the AI will create the rest. If you're a singer, you can split the stems in AI and get just the instrumental track and use a DAW to mix in your vocals. AI is a great boon to artists. Is it also a threat? Sure, but that's true of all jobs. AI is eventually going to replace all jobs.
That doesn't mean that jobs will disappear, it just means that people will do what they want because they want to rather than because they have to. It also enables people to do things that they otherwise couldn't. For instance, I'm a songwriter, and I play the guitar, but I can't hold a tune to save my life. With AI, I can make a full song production and it sounds great.
I bit of a naive point of view. Because when you lose your job due to the rise of AI you have no money. It's as simple as that. No money, no live. No gear. Studies said that AI will have a huge impact on the job market in general. We'll see how society will deal with that.
@@xtra9996 the concept of economy and work are going to change drastically over the next couple of decades. What does it mean to work or earn a wage in a world where AI does most of the labor? They are already considering programs like Universal Basic Income (UBI) and other systems to handle that eventuality. Think Star Trek. That's the kind of world we're headed towards. I personally think there will still be jobs, but you likely won't get paid to do them. In the near term, I see a lot of disruption and the government will have to do things like government funded scholarships to help people reposition themselves. There's also going to be the problem of mortgages. Those people displaced will still be on the hook for a home that they will likely not be able to afford with their new lower paying position. I imagine the government is going to have to have some kind of relief program.
@@BruceWayne15325 So when (almost) nobody get paid for their job, where does the basic income for all came from? One important pilar of the economic cycle is income. It's the base of everything. I think you are a bit to optimistic. People are lazy, when there's no need to get up early in the morning they won't do. With your jobs-for-nothing idea the whole economy would brake almost instantly.
@@xtra9996 work and production won't go away. It will just be AI that does the vast majority of it. The income will come from machine labor. This is no different than the industrial revolution, where factories made the vast majority of goods instead of individuals. The big difference here is that the machines will only need babysitting by humans. I don't think jobs are going to go away completely. I think that AI is going to level the playground and make virtually anyone able to do any job. This will cause salaries to drop drastically until there's an averaging across the board. The wealth gap will increase as the low and middle classes get smashed into one.
@@BruceWayne15325 Income generated by machine labor? But machines don't buy stuff, they don't travel, they don't need food, they don't pay taxes(!). So the whole sector of generating income by work will go down the drain. And when the vast majority of ppl don't have a job because they don't need one or because there aren't any they don't have the money to buy goods. They might be able to satisfy their basic needs, not more. A UBI has to be earned first. And for this model of income you need a huge amount of money to be distributed. In the end it's like a Perpetuum Mobile, it can't work, at least not in our capitalistic world.
My admittedly pessimistic prediction: AI and industry automation / robotics will destroy a lot of jobs, including those in the creative domain which will lead to a rise of poverty. Here I agree with you: the middle class will drop down to the lower class. And then, somewhere in the feature, they will be riots when the society / the politicians are unable to develop a post-work social and economical model. The question is if there's enough pressure from the society to force the governments to take action. And here again, i'm pessimistic. What will happen is the development of a police and surveillance state to oppress the poor. We can already see it's beginning.
The same thing was saying in the industrial revolution... Change, everything is change
What might help is if the AI developers made the AI to output Chord symbols with the lyrics and MIDI tracks along with the MP3's so that one could use the AI to get a first cut and then edit the MIDI to personalize it much the same way that many use ChatGPT to write a first draft.
already
use a stem splitter. they output midi.
@@olabassey3142 Yes, I have done that but the results are a bit iffy.
@@RonLWilson then play the rest by ear lol 😂. this is where being a good producer comes in. or use melodyne to get the midi of the audio file. or scalar
@@olabassey3142 Yes, I have done that, but that those have limitations and extra steps to the workflow as well.
This is overkill. There will always be real artists and musicians. It’s just a new set of tools that will be absorbed by the creative ones.
Well, I would have said: "we don't know yet", but perhaps, you are the special one 😈😤
How many real artists there are gonna be if they won't be able to make money?
... but they won't make any money. That was not an issue for me as a production music musician because the money became secondary when I saw how little money it brought in and moved to something else. I just thought of it as a token of appreciation once I saw no possible future ahead. But some people rely on it and that's already started ending for many of them. I give it a year at the most before stock music becomes obsolete and music sync licensing starts its down hill slide. Music consumers don't care how the music is made and Ai is both cheaper for them and faster to produce while the quality these days is basically the same as a whole.
They can take all the shortcuts they want, from what I learned with 20+ years of musicology is that they always get exposed at some point and fall. Sure it’s gonna shake the actual shit show that is the popish music industry lately, but even for compagnies that are gonna use it people are gonna feel it and slowly stop caring. Music has always been circling, I’d argue that the human side of things is gonna come back stronger than before at some point. Another thing for sure we ve been seeing the effect of boycotts lately, latest exemple is the dumb move of waves that nearly cost them everything, lots of us won’t even care for products that are related to this. The scenarists are already struggling for a couple of years because of ia, especially for streaming platforms the result? A desert of lame cinematography that is costing them billions, I mean last year has to be the worst in terms of cinematographic excitement. But nothing surprising there, I’m a composer and I already knew 10years ago that it was collapsing, they use premade patterns in movies for years now, which means composers have really narrow corridor to navigate mark my words it will circle back to experience and human touch. As for the masses that will be caught in the robotic brain dead agenda of the big corporations it is what it is, but if you expected to make money from this crowd it was on you to begin with and I mean no disrespect we are all learning here. I don’t know what you maestros will do, but for me? I’m gonna keep one hand on the ai train and the other on learning as many skills as I possibly can I wish you guys the best from the bottom of my heart cause I know it’s gonna be a rough ride but if we communicate and stick together we ll create our own network, bakers or traders that will suddenly decide to pretend to be a pop star thanks to suno or whatever will be a little joke on the side cheers 🍻
After seeing this video, I started using Udio and here are some songs I produced with it
my words:
www.youtube.com/@magnifico372/videos
ua-cam.com/video/-nv3TM2zaVI/v-deo.html
Udio's words:
ua-cam.com/video/XMLjVK03wOo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/zjxLDsKvZEY/v-deo.html
with a poem by Baudelaire:
ua-cam.com/video/CF3sPTgMSmM/v-deo.html
I'm sorry to say, but you didn't "produce" anything. You just "generated" stuff at best.
you produced absolutely nothing
Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI:
Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html
My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html
Dark music of my composition:
ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html
My orchestration of existing songs:
ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html
You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
@@FoliaSound Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI:
Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html
My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html
Dark music of my composition:
ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html
My orchestration of existing songs:
ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html
You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
@@Llamazalt Personally, I was clear: I showed the videos where the lyrics were mine, those where I chose a poem that had not yet been sung before and those where I simply wrote the prompt . And if the writing of prompts was not in itself a production, there would be no technicians or even prompt engineers. And if you think that I moved towards artificial intelligence because I am incapable of producing music, well think again because here are pieces that I composed even before the advent or at least the democratization of music. 'AI:
Lyrics by Jean de La Fontaine (17th century), my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/vTGNmuYebgM/v-deo.html
My lyrics, my melody, my harmonization and my distribution
ua-cam.com/video/qwT4w5S8wZk/v-deo.html
Dark music of my composition:
ua-cam.com/video/QHf8aMyFk-8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/RT_2GdDLeX0/v-deo.html
My orchestration of existing songs:
ua-cam.com/video/athN39pLVx0/v-deo.html
You can scan my channel and maybe you can find "PRODUCTIONS"
What gives you the right to “steal” from Bach, Mahler, and all the composers who came before you while others cannot?
I prefer human made music but don’t try to claim that you own the right to imitate and learn from history, style, and genre.
Everyone, including those who develop AI, has the right.
It’s also pretty selfish how he says he felt nothing when chat gpt and midjourney took over the world but now that sink has arrived he expects protests?
It was a good video but wow this guy is seems way too entitled.
I’ve been saying this for years now & posted about it. People are only starting to understand it now more. I’m a multi-instrumentalist, composer/producer, pro artist dj, general designer, artist, 3D modelling etc. Since lockdowns etc my work & gigs has been in trouble & now it’s just f**ked while I’ve been on benefits unable to get work. My Music Library work I’ve been doing for many years also f**ked! This is people’s heart & soul, it effects their mental health!
Nice Chomsky quote later in the video bro. I’m starting a campaign to raise awareness, also I will be trying to arrange a appointment with a member of parliament(MP) to discuss all this serious concerns! It’s OUR LIFE AND OUR JOBS! Gonna be the ghost of Frank Zappa fighting against this bs as best I can even if I think it’s a lost cause!
Too many idiots out there that will be using this already & other A.I art platforms! F**k all this shit man! You’ve said a lot of things I say! No one protests but everyone else does! No one cares about the arts in general! Very sad! 60% of jobs will not be safe from A.I & Humanoids by next year! The matrix literally awakened already the past few years! We are under attack in so many ways in life! Kurwa mac!
There are also some pop artists trying to take legal action for copyrights.
Anyway I understand & relate with your frustrations with it all as I deal with it too. Things not looking good with the WHO Worldwide Pandemic Treaty, the push of H5N1 virus again & possible G5 Geomagnetic storm forecasted for 2025 which could cause grid system failure with blackout. Lawlessness implemented in the cities & organised chaos. It’s just so f**ked!
Orwell’s hell! Rage against this sh*tty machine! This is the industrialisation of the cyber world! Their NWO!
Great points except you lost me in the last 2 paragraphs
@@miezeken what do you not understand & I’ll try to elaborate on it man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Thanks for the reply, I meant to say I agree with everything you wrote and I think you made a compelling case however the second last paragraph substantially dilutes your argument by tying it to other problems I feel unnecessarily.
@@miezeken hey man, yes sure I can see where you would see that but that’s ultimately the point. I’m torn between wanting to take action but understand also the other impending dooms we face as a people more then just A.I threat and our lives/jobs. It’s quite a layered cake of issues up head, the WHO global pandemic treaty, H5N1 avian variant being pushed again currently or Disease X talks, the forecast for a super solar flare(G5) by 2025 which could cause grid system failure, cyber slavery, Great Depression part 2 etc. hope that puts it into focus man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
You know what can't be replaced by AI? Live performances and 1 to 1 teaching. Instead of obsessing about being replaced: adapt, struggle, survive. Automation is something that is going to affect us all, and has been changing the world for 200+ years. All the laborers when replaced simply moved on to other work. Art has always been a niche, and maybe it just is not becoming sustanable to be "just an artist" anymore like it's not super sustainable being a blacksmith, but it does require lots of skill. I'm not going to tell you i have a solution, I'm just saying it's a problem that the regular working class HAS BEEN dealing with. Good luck.
Don't be so sure. Sooner than you can realize, AI will learn on music stars and easily replace them with robots which will have uncanny identical appearance - robotic clones. And, one by one, such cloned artists will 'disappear' but few will care as their masterful ai robot clone will be performing in their places, and this is how many former pop stars of yore will also be replicated, with the angle they will be immortalized forever. Do not under estimate the ability to entirely replicate humanity; it is a matter of the tech getting to each point of development, and greed will push many to keep along such threatening paths. The issue is that people think too highly of themselves, and do not realize our vulnerabilities. Yes, every person is unique, but that uniqueness, in the right hands, can be studied and eventually realistically duplicated - bio-ai it will be, as in biological ai, that will replace lives musicians, making their corporate human owners initially very wealthy, as the bio-ai are pennies on the dollars compared to the normal costs of human music performers. There will even be some individual unique ai personalities who will captivate the world with live performances, we really are on the brink of extinction.
@@viviangendernalikI don't know if they'll ever be able to properly "capture" the human essence. They can replicate it to a very high degree, but as far as I can tell, I don't think they'll ever REALLY think like us.
I am a music hobbyist and a beginner, but its still very demotivating knowing, that everything that I am learning right now and I am spending huge amount of my free time doing so, is getting less and less valuable because I can already generate better tracks then I am able to make. I am graphic designer by proffesion though and the exact same is happening in that field. Basically every damn creative thing is endangered because of that. Weird times.
Karma is happening, the coders that created this abomination are themselves being replaced by AI as we speak. On a positive note, musicians were really peed off yeas ago when DJs took most of their work, but there is still work out there even now. Learn to sing or play an instrument really, really well. You'll have a unique style, and AI can't compete with that.
As a musician, I find AI amazing. Now I can create AI tracks, cover them, and have an infinite amount of songs to play live.
@@lavillenouvelle Is this irony or are you for real? There's no musicianship in doing that
@@ladas3509 there is exactly the same amount of musicianship that every cover band has.
The only difference is that, instead of covering a song from the Beatles, Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, I can cover an AI song with lyrics I wrote.
@@lavillenouvelleSorry i am not trying to bash your creative process and this might be my biased view. But, if you are using AI to generate music and then simply recreating it from its output, I dont see that as artistry. The beauty (even I dont really listen to them) of cover bands is band mates being able to play their instruments and playing it live etc. The coordinated effort of different people playing together. Or revivals when the original band is no more. Creating something new while letting a machine create it for you is neither original work or cover band, its a weird thing in between.
This is just my opinion though, do whatever you want. If you like it, who am I, a random person person in the internet telling you something. Good luck.
AI and Music: A Dream Come True for Lyricists?”
Since middle school, I’ve been writing song lyrics. Unfortunately, I lack the ability to compose music or play any instruments. Growing up in a financially challenged family, I couldn’t afford music lessons. Now, with an autoimmune disease that has stiffened my joints, learning to play an instrument seems even more daunting.
I don’t have the means to hire a singer or produce music to accompany my lyrics. However, discovering AI tools that allow me to add my lyrics, specify a genre, and create a song structure feels like a dream come true. But is it fair for me to publish this music?
The video you mentioned raises valid points. I empathize with musicians who’ve dedicated their lives to mastering the craft, only to face competition from AI-generated music. Used correctly, AI could be a powerful tool without undermining hardworking artists. Still, I share your concern about music becoming cheap and ubiquitous.
On the other hand, hearing my lyrics come to life is exhilarating-I did write them, after all. While I grapple with the ethical implications, I appreciate the possibilities AI offers. Perhaps striking a balance between human creativity and technological assistance is the key.
As a lyricist and songwriter, I think you made a most valid observation and commentary here.
Thank you for your response.@@GeecheeLionsJourney
I'm an indie author, but this is how I'm using AI..I wanted to make a soundtrack for my book, but there is no way I can afford several bands and studio time for them to put music to my lyrics. However, now I am able to write my soundtrack and have that as a boost for my novel. It has allowed me to bring life to my words in ways that previously were not possible. It isn't taking away a musicians job because I couldn't afford them in the first place, but it is allowing for musical stories that wouldn't have existed to now be fully realized.
Why are you complaining? If you create "stock music", what gives you the right to complain about someone who creates stock music faster and BETTER than you?
People with expertise using the tools available in any period will always win over people who don't adapt. This is the story of "progress". Writing on a papyrus was better than writing on a stone with chisels and hammers, ink and feathers sharpened with a knife writing on paper was better than writing on a papyrus, printing was better than writing and making knowledge available to more people, and so on. Chinese engineers figured out thousands of years how to kill people better with gunpowder, then after many iterations the atom bomb was the best thing we had to kill millions with one shot, and on and on goes the parade of "progress".
AI is just the next tool. If Mozart and Bach were alive today and had access to AI, they would use AI in a microsecond to flood the zone with 1000x more wonderful music than they have created by themselves in their whole lives. The Beatles would have generated 1000 wonderful records instead of 10 wonderful records. Mozart and Bach and the Beatles would TRAIN the AI to understand and replicate their genius, not hate it.
AI will not replace you (the general you, not you specifically, perhaps). But people who master AI will definitely replace people who don't master AI.
if non-AI music stops then the development of music also ends pretty soon, when you feedback the AI generated music into the AI, the algorithms will start to breakdown as they become increasingly generic... I guess they will try to compensate for that through randomisation and some sort of threshold values... but it will go round and round on itself forever... if they aren't able to tell which music was AI generated or 'pre-AI' then they may have some historical cut-off point and choose to ignore new music after a certain date, that could then exclude 'real music' from getting fed into the algorithms in the future... we're in for an interesting ride. But generally, I think you are correct, simply because so much generic music will be generated now, that it will swamp the internet it's going to be really tough for human producers unless they are also performing as a live act.
It's called Model Collapse and it happens very quickly.
As opposed to the non generic Taylor Swift songs topping the charts right now? The horror.
But why should non-AI music disappear?
Even in the worst-case scenario, when all the crooks who make 'art' for money stop doing it, there will still be real artists who create for self-expression.
Exactly, the AI algorithms will become so censored and diluted, all AI music will begin to sound like a hybrid soup of Bach, Abba, and Taylor Swift. Happy little pop songs with subliminal messages. Meanwhile, I'll summon the spirits with an organic broth of horrorscope deepcreep psytrance
you're wrong, supervised training models can be trained to generate new experimental content with simple like/dislike buttons
There is now an Ai that can Master a music creation for you in minutes with zero skills. It’s called LANDR. Works really well
That looks like a caveman tool compared to this.
Suno AI sucks, the way people talk about it made it seem flawless, the sound sucks, the songs suck, i'm sure it'll get better, but this is not good.
Go listen to some Udio tracks and it is only on it's first beta test run. Technology is moving faster than you might believe.
@Mopantsu UDIO is crappy as well, it even ruins lyrics from time to time (while singing), especially if it’s not in English then it become more common.
You all saying about how fast it progress, but you just lack the knowledge. Computers making music exist for decades, it’s just wasn’t as affordable to masses as it is now. So no hype and that’s why you’ve probably never heard about it. I know about it since 2016, but David Bowie used it in one of his song in 1995, and the first known music composed with computer generation based on learning other’s works was in 1957 iirc, it was a piece for a string quartet.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф For now - yes. But look at how image generators progressed in just 3 years. I'm not saying that it will replace all artists, but certainly most of them will not be able to do it for a living anymore.
suno sucks
@user-vy9ll3jl3v I made a song on Udio called "My Best Friend's Dad," and it sounds like a real country song. Go listen to it. It sounds pretty real to me. It's published on the site.
Artists will always be better than computers. Use it to make your work better.
At some point there will be riots. Social unrest, people on the street, etc. This will probably not help much, but this is when you will know that our lifes are never going to be the same. We will switch to different things. We will have completely new materials on our disposal. We will be more directed towards other people. We will regain connection that we have lost within the last 20 years. We are disconnected from one another. Social media will not replace direct interactions. We will be working on other things than we are working on right now. But one thing will not change. There always will be that person with an instrument, sitting with other people and making their life better. I can not see how this is going to change. We have had our chance to have our 5 minutes on a global stage, but those 5 minutes came to an end. Unfortunately. Sure, some people will still be doing music and others will be listening to it. But not on a current scale. This could have been predicted. More and more people were gaining access to advanced music tools. The better tools of this kind we had, the more automated the whole process could become. However we did not expect to suddenly face a tool that only requires us to provide a title or a story... but it happened.
It's really funny how all these artists were fine with ai generated album art and music videos, but now... well
I was quite disappointed to see many smaller artists I follow completely cut illustrators out of their life without a second thought to save time and money. It was like they showed no empathy for those who were drowning, but didn't recognize they're on the same sinking boat.
. i'm fine with AI gen music. music has always been over saturated . but yeah these ppl are hypocrites
and what about the musicians that still cared about visual artists ? Do they deserve to see their life, carrier, mind, passion terminated ? :)
@someoneacomputer1905 you gotta be a pro at "how can I make myself the victim here" mental gymnastics if you somehow read my original comment and thought I was implying that... so eh... no obviously not?
I was saying that some people have 0 morals and don't care about anyone but themselves but will suddenly cry wolf now that they are no longer safe and pretend they always had a hard stance against ai media. Screw those people.
This is the same argument that is made every single time a new technology breaks through. From the folks that lost their jobs as book scribes, to the horse carriage makers, to the to orators that lost their jobs to the AM/FM radio, to the bank tellers who lost their jobs to ATMs. New technology is just another part of life.
I think music is just going to evolve. When music went digital, classical music evolved into jazz and jazz evolved into pop and rock. So no more I IV VI V progressions and new styles will need to emerge.
and 1 day later u will have update of ai with this style. u have great brain, buddy. great logic!
Purpose of art is to you evolve into more advanced artist and not cutting the angles. How you became master if everything is done by you just click your mouse?
Feeling, listening, imagining and everything is gonna be fd up. We gonna be caveman again.
Creativity will die until we merge with ai and then together we revolutionize creativity itself.
I hear they said before people will not be losing jobs only people who do not know how to take advantage from AI will lose their jobs. People who cant adapt are the ones who will be left behind always. Also if we are saying that AI is stealing from humans work.. how about before we just do all things manually like writing with lettering that takes a lot of time but now we have fonts that you can just press and you can choose any type of lettering you want. Before people need to send messengers to send messages to other people that are really far away. Now we can send messages in just a couple of seconds saving us a lot of time using mobile phones and computers. You see advancement in technology will always make our lives easier and again people who can't adapt will be the ones who will suffer the most.
No offense intended, but this arguments are ill-considered at best or cultural Darwinism at worst. Of course there's technical progress for the benefit of us all, such as Google Translator, which helps me translate this text from German into English. Or tools for minimally invasive surgical interventions. Or washing machines that operate according to energy-saving standards ... Quote: "Advancement in technology will always make our lives easier." Oh, really!? Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's OK. Maybe some people only notice this when they look down the barrel of a pump gun. But by then it's usually already too late. Saludos 🙏
@@mk-gt5we I respect your opinion. But for me AI or technology doesn't steal his job.. AI doesn't have any motive to steal his job.. People do. I am stealing his job, probably his neighbor is stealing his job because now we are capable of doing what he does. And we are trying to learn how this AI is working so we can take benefits from it. It doesn't mean people who are learning how to make music through AI are bad people but of course we can make it faster than the people who doesn't. Also does it mean we should stop using AI because we feel bad for the people who can't use it or refuse using it. By all means no. You see I think this is how it works they pre-program all musical genres and beats and since AI knows how to speak and understand words they can basically communicate to the user. Think of it as like print on demand but now its Music on demand. Before I don't have any means to listen to my own music that has my feelings and own words on it. But now I can make it personalized. I even made a song for my grandma and nephew. On the topic of technology can make our life easier. I understand that it is not always but I just try to see things on the positive. But its true you can always see negative even on positive things. Its all about perspective and intentions.
@@3102nzain I agree with you: "AI or technology doesn't steal its job ... People do." But AI is the tool that people use to steal the jobs. It's never the tools, it's always the users. Therefor “Advancement in technology will always make our lives easier” isn't true. “Advancement in technology" has no moral, ethical or whatsoever value in and of itself. Technology only acquires this value through its use by humans. And you certainly don't deny the fact that technological progress has so far primarily served military goals, exploitation and/or personal enrichment. It's usually not important what this means for the other side, as long as one's own advantage can be secured. Empathy or a sense of justice are not usually characteristics of “advancement in technology”. Nor is respect for intellectual property or physical integrity. As a musician, I'm happy that technology allows me to realize my art, make it audible and preserve it. But allowing myself to be sucked dry by empty algorithm structures in order to fill their inspiration- and creativity-free pool with emotionless "waste" (because they cannot recognize anything other than the surface and packaging of my art) is very reminiscent of Columbus and the Conquistadors. And all of this just so that a few unscrupulous, antisocial start-ups can line their pockets at my expense - disgusting, but unfortunately human! That's what you are defending with your arguments - whether you want to or not. Nevertheless: Have a nice day and don't be replaced anytime soon by an AI that copies and messes up your creativity and your job. Saludos 🙏
@@mk-gt5we As I said Ai or advancement in technology is not bad its the people that is the one who uses them... depends on their intention is bad. I am not sure how you see that this start up companies are taking your creative work.. as me myself has no real clue on how they really work... we can just assume things here.. as you can see each song has a genre where they belong and I think the AI or their system can produce many beats that belongs to each genre not necessarily created by you (How can you be sure that it copies you really). I can't say to much with technicalities I am not an expert though. In a much simple words I think AI can mass produce different music for each genre because its a computer so before you can make those beats and music they are already in their system. And they are just mix and matching those beats. The only thing that I want to say is technology is just technology and it depends on how people uses it, that is how it turns bad. My hands can be a tool for doing good and bad things the same for any technology. Music generating AI is not replacing people... its the people who uses those apps are replacing people who doesn't use AI apps. It also doesn't mean I am not creative. Because compared to other people who just generate songs from random prompts btw the songs they created are crappy believe me.. I tried that when I was just starting before... but now I do make my own lyrics my problem is I don't have a good voice and I dont have a studio to create my own music. But now even poor people like me without musical instruments and a studio can create music with my own feelings and words in it. Also if you really think the songs generated by the AI is stolen from your own creativity feel free to sue that person. Again this apps are created to help people but feel free to file a complain to any person that will abuse these tools.
@@mk-gt5we can you provide any example of a song or music that you created that has been stolen or copied by these apps for you to think that you have been robbed by this AI music generating apps. Because I really want to understand why people are hating this AI tools. Btw my main source of income is apartment rental... I am safe from AI for now I think and currently making songs is helping me fight my depression also I am sharing the songs to my family... but I am also planning to make money out of it in the future.
That dubstep song at 8:06 sounds very inspired from Pendulum. I think it sort of derives it's references from that artist for this particular generation. Interesting.
as an artist im glad AI is here to compete, people just been making cheap quick buck "art" instead of actually putting effort and love in their works.
AI will force artists to be creative again and this is great.
I thought about this. We could get more authentic Composers and Musicians out of this. But there should be a law banning AI from Creative Arts.
@@markozivanovic117 there shouldnt be a law cuz whos a bad artist and dont put actual care wont be able to profit, but whos good they will profit cuz AI cant do what they do.
i know its harsh to not care abt peoples incomes, but i care more abt art and culture and who ruins that dont deserve money.
@@jktech2117 If you cared about art and culture you wouldn't support this.
@@msscott22 i support cuz only artists that put meaning into their arts will survive from this, only the original and good ones.
the end of this thing people call as art but is all just easy money will be good for art itself, the generic "arts" are bad but AI will force people out of this since it mostly just know how to do the most common stuff since is all dependent on the size of the training data about a certain subject.
so this is why im a supporter.
@@jktech2117 I get your viewpoint, but this tech is going to ruin everything. If you think we have garbage now, just wait, we're gonna have garbage a million fold.
Great video. The impact on musicians will be huge but what about on the music industry in a whole. With this I mean the software developers of plugins, synths (hard and software). If the musicians earn less money they have less money to spend on musical equipment. Do we see less companies or will there be plugins developed by AI?
6:34 man that voice is so bad though. Hurts my ears.
AI ain’t stressed about it.
We already opened the devil's dor, the question is was it worth it. think of the military uses or corn. I warned about it years ago, dont fuck with the devil. AI is a new devil and we created it
More like a Gollum, but generally agree.
this is really sad, but these kind of innovations are unstoppable. You must face the fact that making music the traditional way is over.
OVER
Yes, it is. I still believe that real artists and passionates will do music in traditional manner, because they just love the process. Count me in!
@@FoliaSound I hate this AI crap too, but we NEED to adapt. There's no other chance
@@ewr34certxwertwer agree 100 percent, im an old skool, but this is the future, and we must see it as a tool, a challenge...not as some dangerous monster...regards
@@FoliaSound im sure that there will be always real artists and producers, some things will never change, robots will never have a ,,soul,,
@@djerikfox I am sorry to disagree. I've been hearing AI generated songs that no one would know they are "non human"
I have lots of vaseline Im used to being screwed
:(((
Yuck.
@@seanrobinson6407 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry but this is not AI, what it does is copy songs that have been fed into and modify the separate stems to create new songs.
If you write the lyrics, you are classified as a composer and, by law, are entitled to 50% of the music royalties. But thanks to AI, you can now do the musical work too (the beat) and get the remaining 50% of the royalties. This ends all the arguments some people are making that by using AI to create music, you are not an artist or creator. Those few lines of text you put on a notepad are all you need to entitle yourself an artist, even though AI creates all sounds, including the vocals. In addition, you are also writing the AI prompts, which adds even more of your influence to the final output. It's as if you hired a musician to do the beat, and he has to follow your instructions. In that case, you would have to pay him between 25% and 50% of the royalties depending on if he's also doing the arrangement, mixing, mastering, etc, but since your musician is the AI, you just pay the subscription to use the AI tool and to keep 100% of the royalties to yourself, you just have to make the arrangement and mastering yourself, which is relatively easy to do with any DAW and a mastering plugin such as Ozone 11. Got it?
WOW you'll be the next bob Dylan then i guess
Mainstream doesn’t care about your passion or dedication to music. They want another puppet wearing a huge mouse head playing plastic bangers full of drops, made by another ghost producer.
This time the ghost producer will be AI…
I see your point, but I think deadmau5 is writing all his music
Bro solid point, but don't shit on deadmau5, he's the last person that should be accused of not being original or creative
Guys it’s just a metaphor. I haven’t mention anyones names.
@@miriumsonos5277 True, but you did reference a mouse head. Could have just said some random mask/head piece. Then you could have been referencing anyone from Deadmau5 to Daft Punk.
Every song made with AI is a song that people enjoy, be it as a joke or because someone who isn't a musical genius has written honest lyrics or any other reason.
Any musician who opposed the existence of AI music opposed the very essence of music: that people enjoy it.
What I hear in the final chapter of this video, the part about "oh no, these AI's are stealing stuff and replicate it, YOU have been robbed!" is a man who just realized that all this time, he was making money because he was gatekeeping the process of music production.
What exactly is it, then, that was stolen from you? Hm?
Was it your audio equipment?
Was it the sales you've already made with your music?
Was it the potential sales you could've made in the future?
Was it the song itself? How? Is it not on your hard drive anymore? Has the data been physically removed?
"It replicates it!" - and so does anyone who sings along to your songs or covers it.
Your intellectual property cannot be stolen because it isn't a scarce resource. If I just draw a random wave pattern in Audacity, and create a sound that way, and that sound ends up being the exact copy of a song someone has produced, I have not stolen anything, I have, by mere accident, created something, with my own labor, using my own property and nothing has happened to the other person. "Intellectual property" is, by definition, a restriction on what other people can do with their own property. let's say I'm an author and i live in a remote village, and by sheer accident, I write an exact copy of Harry potter. 100% identical. But nobody in the village, not even I myself, knows that some british woman wrote the same book years prior.
In fact, it could be that your music is already violating the "intellectual property" of some alien on another planet.
Face it, gatekeepers, copyright, IP and all the other legal tools you use will fall apart with the AI revolution. AI music will not make musicians, but it will get people MORE music to consume, more art to consume, more of the things they want. The existence of the final product, the piece of music, piece of art, video game or book is what matters, not who has created it. AI will bring more stuff for us to consume, and that is a good thing.
So u think it s okay for machine to take over humans own songs ? If u dont get royalties anymore, then artist and musicians will no longer live.
Hes saying that AI is learning to make songs, which means writers/composers soon doesnt have a job. If they dont get royalties.
For you its emotional, for them its mathematics and cold logic. and they get rich on it without feeling anything at all...
That's exactly wah I said at the end of the vid :)
It's a tool that literally everyone can benefit from if they just take a step back from their egos for a few moments.
Hehe, no one is going to have this gold rush forever. Most of the AI community goes for the free stuff because many of us think about it as democratizing access and tools to make creative things. You also can't copyright AI made works. People making things will be sharing and showing stuff because they like what they made. IE what art is supposed to be, priceless.
The amount of new generators that come out are a dime a dozen. And every company does the same thing. They offer a lot for free, they get a lot of traction, they start removing the stuff that was free and putting up a pay wall. It continues to get worse, people complain, a new company does the same thing and it goes down the line. Some people pay for a subscription, but most aren't worth it and you can find plenty of people talking about how it isn't.
AI is going to be free (as much as anything can be. A bigger thing will be getting people with good computer rigs or subsidizing them so they do have access. Not unlike how internet is near ubiquitous now to modern life to exist and function in society.). Which is the point, accessibility to an incredible tool to make things. Especially when it's going to start taking the jobs people thought it would take first.
I get the freak out over losing jobs, that's an understandable one given the world we live in. But I am really annoyed by all artistic communities claiming that it takes away the integrity of art. They're upset about not making money. And whether that's because they need to eat or because the won't be able to buy another car or house, the reasoning is the same. Fear.
Art is expression through a tool. That tool doesn't matter. Be it duct taping a banana to a wall or a kid making a stick figure drawing of their family or someone giving a prompt and an AI or commissioner making the product.
I gotta say Suno is pretty awesome, I spent the whole day listening to a joke song I made. Who says artist have the monopoly on Art? Everything goes.
Hello, it doesn't have to be bad, you can take advantage of it to be more creative...the technological world changes and one must change with it, adapt or be obsolete. 😮😮