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Upgrading a 10-year-old laptop. Is it worth it?
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Fujitsu LIFEBOOK LH772 Spec (Before upgrade):
CPU: Intel i5-3230M
GPU: GeForce GT 640M LE
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz
CPU upgrade: Intel i7-3632QM
Can I upgrade laptop CPU? If yes, Is it worth upgrading laptop CPU? To answer these questions, I wasted my time and money so that you don't have to!
00:00 Physical Inspection
01:12 Benchmark: Blender (before upgrade)
01:58 Benchmark: Cinebench (before upgrade)
02:05 Benchmark: 3DMark (before upgrade)
03:01 Game testing: Kenshi (before upgrade)
03:21 Teardown
04:53 CPU upgrade (i7-3632QM)
05:42 Fan cleaning
06:37 Boot-up test after upgrade
06:50 HDMI problem
07:27 Benchmark: Blender (after upgrade)
07:48 Benchmark: 3DMark (after upgrade)
10:22 Game testing: Kenshi (after upgrade)
10:44 Summary
Whether it's worth it or not depends on what you are hoping for.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you switch from an i5-3230m to an i7-3632qm, you're going from 2c/4t to 4c/8t, but you're also lowering the base frequency from 2.6 to 2.2 GHz. The 3632qm is designed to fit into a 35W TDP envelope and has to be clocked lower to meet it. Workloads using 1-4 threads will take a hit. You have to get to five or more threads to benefit. And where gaming is concerned, you're only going as fast as that GPU can benefit from added CPU power in any case.
I actually did something very similar with an HP ProBook 4540s last year, replacing an i5-3210m with an i7-3720qm, a 45W 4c/8t CPU with a 2.6/3.3 speed. The 4540s never shipped with that CPU but is known to be able to handle it. I have a Radeon HD 7650M GPU onboard. However, I am also running Linux and more interested in multithread performance and not gaming. For me, the upgrade was a tremendous success and makes this machine nearly as capable, relative to time and place, as when it was new. If I were running Windows and wanting to game, I wouldn't have done this, especially since the Ivy Bridge CPUs can't run Windows 11 without hacking.
Does Linux have a lot of overhead like Windows does? Thank you 🤓
@@j.lietka9406 If by overhead, you mean system resources, Linux is less demanding than Windows. Linux will use less RAM and CPU cycles than Windows will on the same hardware, and it also supports older CPUs much better than Windows does. You can still run old Core 2 Duos viably on Linux. With an i7-3720qm installed, it positively flies.
The only drawback is that a lot of Windows software cannot be coaxed to run on Linux even with the Wine compatibility layer. If you switch to Linux, you have to be OK with using Linux software at least some of the time. When I switched in 2015, I had been using stuff like VLC, LibreOffice, Firefox and GIMP for years already. Going to Linux was no big deal, because all of those are FOSS software anyway.
@@johncate9541 yes good description! Thank you 🤓
Thank you so much for the information! I am sure other people will also find it useful.
My main usage is running scripts and hosting local services. The gaming part is just for the audience, because I guess it would be more interesting for people to watch game benchmarks rather than script running.
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
I did this with my old Samsung laptop, changed the CPU from an i5 to an i7, added more ram, changed the HDD to SSD and replaced the CD-ROM with a 2TB SSD in a caddy. It's 12-13 years old and I still use it today.
That's why I love upgradable laptops! With a small upgrade, you give it a new life and it can be used for another decade.
Me too
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@miauw100 sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@gunawangunawansantoso4122 Emmm... components such as capacitors, resistors and your motherboard MOSFET need to be checked further by a competent repairman to solve the problem
From 2 to 4 cores, it makes a difference. You could also replace RAM to a 16 GB kit. For browsing the Internet, those old laptops are surprisingly usable. And there are many old video games, which could run on it.
True! After the CPU upgrade alone, the laptop is already quite usable. I will look for RAM kits and upgrade it later too.
@@hardwarerepair200 its a sin to not overclock the gpu
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@Armki sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@gunawangunawansantoso4122 your bios could be corrupted. try flashing an existing bios or a new one
I did a similar upgrade to my 13y old HP laptop recently.
I went from i5 2520m to i7 2860qm, from 8g ram to 16gb, from 640gb hdd to a 480gb ssd, from a Quadro 1000m to a Quadro 2000m, changed keyboard to light, XFI soundcard, bluetooth speakers and bluetooth mouse+keyboard. More or less maxed it out.
What laptop model do you have? I don't know you can upgrade the GPU.
It`s a HP 8560w. Older more expensive HPs and Dell + Alienware and som Asus/Msi used MXM ports.
With the bigger HP 8760w you can have even faster gpus and there are modded bioses out there to support newere gpus like 900m series.
Im thinking about trying it :)
The best upgrade i ever did was on my Alienware M18x in 2012 that had 2x GTX460m 1.5gb sli, upgraded to 2x Radeon 6970m 2gb cf.
@@Bulltazar You could still upgrade GPUs on high end laptops even now. They've stopped using MXM ports, but they use a different type of connection that still allows the laptop to be thin. As for HP 8560w, you're long way from maxing it out GPU wise, I've had GTX 1650 in mine before I decided to upgrade to Zbook G4. There are Quadro options like T1000 in MXM Type A form factor as well. But they do cost money .. I think I got my 1650 for almost $200
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@hardwarerepair200 bud pls tell me about x55v (i3 2328m to i5 3230m)? upgrade? possible?
My T440p came with a dual core i5, i replaced it with a 4700mq quad core with hyperthreading. Now it keeps pace with my older desktop. It gets warm and the battery doesnt last as long, but i knew that going in.
Nah I think you did great with it! I recommend trying to attach an ssd and put the operating system on it. It should speed the computer up a lot.
Thanks for watching and the suggestion!
I upgraded my Acer Aspire 5552 it had a 3 core Phenom 2 N830 I put a AMD Phenom II N970 2.2 GHz 4 core in it as well as more RAM an a SSD drive.
I use it for flashing Eproms and SUSE Linux. I is a nice stand by when my maine Windows PC goes down.
Old laptops are built to last forever!
I love my Fujitsu Lifebook; it was the best priced 'not made in China' laptop I could get for my money. Not bought anything made in China in the last year!
Which model is that? Are you using it for everyday work?
I upgraded an old Laptop with an i5, 8GB of ram and an SSD. That was much better than the old Celeron, 4GB and 5400rpm hard drive. I'd say upgrading is usually worth it if you don't want to game on these.
Which old laptop is this?
It's possible they glued it to prevent third party repairs, ensuring that if you want repair work done, you have to go through the manufacturer. And if it costs money, it puts it in their pockets.
Interesting! I've also heard that the 'glue' could potentially be thermal insulation sponge, strategically placed to prevent air leakage through the slit, thereby optimizing airflow for better CPU cooling.
@hardwarerepair200 That's also a likely explanation. I once did repair and upgrade work on my mom's laptop, and everything from strong adhesives, specialty screws, and stubborn plastic chassis hooks made it difficult just to pry it open, haha.
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@gunawangunawansantoso4122 Could be a multitude of issues, since it won't boot past POST. Could be the CPU gave out, you need to replace your RAM, the motherboard failed (or just needs a cleaning on the CPU, GPU, and RAM sockets) or you need to update your BIOS (if there are any left for a motherboard that old). I suggest trying a BIOS update first if you can. Then see if you can run MemTest86+ on it to find RAM faults. And if all that fails, try reseating the CPU in its socket.
And if that fails, consider getting a new PC. Costly repair work won't be worth much on an old machine.
The GT 640m is way faster than my k600 overclocked
Haswell 4th gen Intel core is ideally the sweetspot for these laptops. i7-4700MQ is a ridiculously fast mobile chip for the age and perfomance per watt is impressive vs desktop i7s from that era.
yep and as long as there is a socket you can even find mutant i7 4980hq cpus with iris graphics that absolutely sing :)
I have an old Lenovo laptop with an i7 4700MQ. It's still surprisingly usable. But I quit using it because it's heavy and has no battery life.
Still keeping it around, why not?
@@amdintelxsniperx if you don't have discrete GPU, then Iris almost doubles the performance, but it is still extremely bad for any real gaming besides very old games and emulation of course. I am honestly surprised that those "mutant" CPUs are cheaper than MX haswell series, having in mind somebody put materials and effort to create BGA-to-LGA adapter ..
@@stzokev my alienware 18 has a 4930mx at 4.4 ghz plus its quadro rtx 4000 it keeps up with everything i throw at it :) im surprised honestly . i do want to get a i7 4980hq mutant cpu but its so hard to find it the l4 cache really helps in games
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
Something to consider if possible for the GPU is using MSI afterbuner to overclock and specially undervolt the GPU, i personally had some luck with the desktop GT 740 back in the day, and squeezed some extra performance without risking anything, the same with some other laptops i had the luck to tinker with, not always possible, but always worth a check.
Something else to consider, is that W10 is quite heavy, specially in these older systems, would recommend a lightweight Linux distro, like Mint or Arch with KDE Plasma, that or roll back to W7, the intended OS for many of these old computers.
Had Fujitsu NH 532 with same GPU GT 640M LE (Kepler 500/900). I modified GPU core and mem to 1000/950 with Nvidia Inspector to get best stable performance.
Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't know Nvidia Inspector. It looks interesting and will definitely give it a try.
Have done this to a old Dell E6430 from the lowest possible i5 to the fastest i7 that works. Also put a samsung ssd in it and a 16GB memory kit. It's no gaming monster but all other tasks are running very well in 2024. And if i game on it i stream the game with Nvidia Geforce Now.
I only do it for the fun of it; just knowing that I've made the device perform as well as it ever could. Only a handful of the ones I have would be able to run Windows 10 decently; and ironically the best one I have is a Elitebook 2560p that has a non replaceable cpu.
One day I'll get to benchmarking games and other software on them.
I have a Fujitsu LifeBook laptop too. Need to get it running so I can use it! Thank you 🤓 my regular laptop is a Toshiba Satellite P875 - S7200. Also has a duo - core i5 but can be upgraded to a Quad core! There is also a bay for a second drive, the HDD could be upgraded to an SSD. The RAM is already at 16GB but could do a little better with a better name brand of RAM. As a kind of hobby I look for electronics in dumpsters and curbside stuff!
Me too, I love searching for electronics in dumpsters. I am very surprised to find fully working consoles, monitors from time to time.
@@hardwarerepair200 my recent find is a PS 3 (found a PS 4 Slim 1TB HDD some time ago) that's the 3rd PS 3 I have found. Wanted to look some yesterday but raining too much
Not a waste of money, not a peice of junk .
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
Whether it's worth it to upgrade the CPU probably depends on the price for which one can get a faster replacement. I was thinking about replacing the CPU in my old Dell Latitude that I use as a secondary PC and reconsidered after seeing that the top range CPU for it was selling used for almost as much as I paid for the laptop.
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
i upgraded an Emachines amd laptop.. it was a 1.6 ghz single core athlon. staying with in the laptops advertised power limit i opted for a athlon 64x2 @ 1.2 ghz.. while slower at 1.2ghz the second core helps it out . and upping it to 4gb ddr2 from its 2gb also helped at least it plays youtube videos now. if only its gpu was modular but no its onboard ati x1200 so its a great little old school lappy.
altho 1 prob is the emachines craptop laptops limitied bios shows the cpu as ???????? lol but cpuz shows its working fine.
now is 2024, im still using my W540 that i bought back then in 2014, with i7 4800MQ, 32GB RAM and 2TB SSD, of course with windows 10 pro, to be honest, this is the best 2700$ that ive spent.
Old laptops are built to last!
my W540 used to heat up instantly. 70c even when playing a FHD youtube video i sold it but that 3K screen was the best thing i ever seen
I'm still rocking a MacBook Pro powered by an i5 3230M and find it fast enough for my coding and music stuff (Ableton Live 11 Lite runs like a charm). I certainly wouldn't game on it, but for ny developer and music workloads it's decent. I certainly recommend an SSD upgrade, makes all the difference in terms of the responsiveness of a machine
Old MacBooks are amazing! You can upgrade your RAM and SSD easily. New MacBooks become useless when your SSD dies, which is ridiculous to me.
Is it worth replacing the CPU? No
What can you do? Add maximum memory as supported by motherboard and an SSD then the laptop will be as good as it will ever be.
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
Worth it? Maybe not. But, It's fun isn't it? Recently I was upgrading my Thinkpad T430, and had a lot of fun that day.
Agreed!
I know why they glued the case together.
it is good the upgrade..only not for gaming..the gt 640m is not a gaming gpu..for web browsing..youtube etc its usable
That's sad to know...
I just set world records for the 3770K in time spy @4,298 and fire strike @12,133 this morning! I was honestly just trying to stress test my 4.7ghz OC, but I guess I must have done something right!
Oh yes, the GT 640... in this case it's the absolute worst GT 640 LE. There's very little that can save it.
Older games work of course but anything after around 2015 is pretty painful.
I have a similar age Lenovo idea pad with an A8 4500m cpu, faster compatible cpus cost what my ‘piece of junk’ would to buy. It’s only my old machine which I kept as it runs a lot of older games with ease
Older laptops are really built to last!
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
Could have swapped the ram to higher capacity and speed and ssd?!
That's true! Will upgrade it further when I have the chance!
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
@@gunawangunawansantoso4122 give it a dishwasher wash then use CIF cream then hair dry straight away after rinse in normal water or medical alcohol if you have boiler room keep heated there over night forget thermal paste use thermal pads rather trust me ! Dish washer at 70 degrees for 2.30hours !
Damn Small Linux or one of the Puppy distro's..
10 years old? its not old I have 15 years old hp elitebook 6930p laptop it doesnt have i numbers on the processor
Older electronics are indeed built to last. Now, companies sell expensive disposable tops with irremovable SSD (staring at Apple...)
Always make bios update before hardware upgrades!! Then investigate what is the highest cpu and ram that this MB support,then install SSD and the laptop will live second life.
Where are you buy this cpu please reply
eBay
i guess finding a laptop with i7 8th gen in the trash and 8gb ram is still usable lol
Let’s see if it run cs2 with low settings
sir can i ask question? my old pc i5 gen 3 and motherboard digital alliance and GTX 750 ti(already re thermal paste cause GPU artifacts and never happen again) has keep alive for 6 year old and now my old pc every 1 weeks no signal after show bios cant boot to windows i trying remove cmos battery for 5 minutes and it normal again.but after 1 weeks it keep happen and happen again do you why know?? note: i replace cmos battery with new and my house electricity every day normal even i use UPS for unexpected power outage
where is the part 4 of ps3 ?? i need in my desk now🥲
I am still trying to find a suitable place to setup my equipment. PS3 requires a larger setup and more space.
Currently, I can only find shared space to do simple repair.
The storage medium isn’t a hdd it’s a fucking ssd
Please I MUUUST see more ps3 mobo baking
I am slowly buying back my equipment. I moved to a place where the voltage is different, and all my previous equipment are unusable :(
Just because it's Japanese it's worth it.
Made in Japan = good stuff
Thing is... Windows is screwing us over trying to make you throw them in the landfill... Real planet friendly Microsoft... Going to lose windows 10 support and windows 11 wont work on these. Ive got it installed on a 4th gen but 24h2 will attempt to stop it... Nope I wont let it. If one day my computers will not boot im calling a lawyer. Maybe we should all start something.... I mean my god my Alienware 6th gen is amazing to this day, but they want it in the landfill and make us buy new... Im in no way throwing away a 1800$ dollar laptop when new... Get a life Microsoft....
The i7 runs hotter and you are having throttling issues.
That's indeed one of my concerns. I have been wondering if the i7 version of this laptop has a better heat sink than the i5 version.
But the i7 version the laptop is quite difficult to find these days, so I can't confirm it.
not to hate but you sound like a evil villain and i don't know why
Hahaha, cool to know that I have an evil villain accent. :D
Pointless upgrade anyway.
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@@hardwarerepair200 thanks sir this video helped me
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