‼️The latest NEC TOKIN fix for PS3 YLOD 1002 ⚠️
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- This is not a fix for all YLOD. It fixes only syscon error 1001 or 1002.
PS3 Tantalizer @ripfelix3020
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Official PDF NEC TOKIN
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PS3 Overclock
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• HOW TO Diagnose a faul...
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PSHome project
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BGM by Backing Track
"Neon Nights", "Binary Sunrise", "Future Tomorrow", "Levelcap", and "Vercetti Forever"
• Midnight Racer
2024年最新のPS3の修理方法
00:00 Intro
02:13 Teardown
04:22 Syscon
05:44 NEC TOKIN removal
07:23 PS3 Tantalizer
09:49 Soldering
10:56 Testing
12:53 PSHome extraction
13:44 Final Remarks - Навчання та стиль
Since Premiere has ended, the chat is no longer accessible. Let me post my reply here.
@Toni For CELL side, if the TOKIN goes bad, you are likely to see 1001 in the syscon.
But be careful, 1001 can be also due to forced shutdown.
Sometimes on a console with weak CELL TOKINs just shutting it down normally will sometimes cause 1001s too
1001 is also a general unexpected shutdown error, if it has another error its probably not related at all.
my brother in Christ you could have simply replaced the connectors to plug in the CMOS battery
Guy can microsolder these resistors onto the tiny PCB but he can't cut and join two wires??
@@Agretsometimes you can just lift the tabs and remove the pins to insert into the other connector.
@@perkulant4629 true, even easier.
Excellent YT posting. I've repaired numerous PS3/PS4 consoles. Howver, I've never replaced the PS3 TOKIN's yet on the YLOD (SYSCON 1001/1002) units I have - this is a great replacement. Thanks for showing the PS3 Tantalizer installation.
Good job, I have been watching you for awhile...I have been in this rabbit hole for years..I have over 20 a01 and eo1's...I have been following ripfelix, squeep, the computer Booter and your videos for years...I have a Booter Franky with ripfelix tatilizers....but still love trying to save these wonderful machines....I recommend anybody start with the cheaper dead ps3's before risking a A01..thanks J
Indeed. My first repair attempt was on a CECHP. And I messed up the TOKIN replacement.
Better try the first repair attempt on the console you don't care about as a practice.
my American ps3 CECHA01, with backward compatibility with ps2 (COK - 001) was a total pain in the soul to fix the YLOD, until I noticed it was the "3034 syscon" issue, well, I guess I will have comission to do a full reballing for the RSX Graphic Synthesizer processor, because I am afraid to do such complex soldering... 😂😂😂
I fixed 3034 by pouring liquid flux to all sides under the BGA until it flooded. Then blowing the hot air under the board until all the flux dried. It's my first time doing this and I'm very happy with the result.
Patience is the key, that must have taken long. Many ppl screw up by going too hot too fast while performing this fix. 👍🏽
This is why i'm subscribed! Good content!!!
Welcome aboard!
@@hardwarerepair200 I hope you'll find some cheap PS4s with wlod or blod it would be a great content for us the viewers to watch and good for you when you fix them to flip them, keep making awesome content tho! 🙌🏻
Excellent video many thanks for your time and effort from vini
Thank you for watching!
amazing video 👍Long live PS3!
Excellent work
"Oh come on, do your thing!"
We all know PS3 is good at YLOD lol
Too low on empediance
@@hardwarerepair200 Hi friend. How much $$ can you sell me a PS3 Fat console, already repaired, with shipping to Miami? Tell me and I'll buy one from you with everything complete. I await your response ☺️ Great video.
I was randomly recommended this video and got jumpscared by my own video thumbnail. Glad to see people are using my overclocking guide.
Thank you for making the overclocking guide. I learned a lot new things!
It’s funny looking back at how a lot of folks blamed NEC Tokins (even though like any capacitor, they do indeed go bad and it will depend on the syscon logs) and insisted that replacing the caps would always fix YLOD.
its not normal for capacitors to have such a short lifespan.. unless they are of terrible quality
This was magnificent!
Thanks for watching!
If you want really satisfying for hot air soldering, get some solder paste. You just put it on the pads, stick the components on, and then carefully apply hot air.
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are experienced in soldering so why did you not swapped port on cmos battery to the old one?
Very useful video for repairs!
Nice selection of music btw, what are yhey called?
Good taste! I have been using the music from Backing Track
backingtrack.gg/
More specifically, "Neon Nights", "Binary Sunrise", "Future Tomorrow", "Levelcap", and "Vercetti Forever".
They are all from the album called "SynthRock Expansion Pack: Part 1"
Here's the album
music.ua-cam.com/video/FVp8z_Eus4U/v-deo.html
Nice work bro. Can u make a video on how to get error code on earlier ps3 That have mullion chip i think your explaining is very clear
It's the same process you need a ttl reader
Hi, is there any chance you coud tell me what model of hot air station you used when you removed the rsx on your older videos ? 🙂 thanks for youe videos, it is nice to see someone making progress without spending thousands on expensive bga rework stations
Sorry for the late reply. The hot air station is YIHUA 959D, it is indeed a cheap one.
For BGA rework, you also need a bottom heater. I use Puhui T8280 as my bottom heater.
Another great video bud, keep it up!
Thanks for the visit!
Hi, I recently came across your channel and found it very helpful/enjoyable to watch. I’ve been collecting PS3 games for half a year now (acquired almost 70 now) and always used a superslim to play them. Recently I came across an offer I couldn’t pass up. I’ve bought myself a CECHC03 which was supposed to work flawlessly and it costed me only 100$ with a bunch of accessories. Unfortunately I have to admit I’ve been scammed. The console powers up normally (doesn’t have any GLOD or YLOD), but it freezes upon opening any digitally owned game and doesn’t read any of my discs. I have seen that this topic was covered on ifixit but there is no definite answers. The Cell and RSX don’t get very hot but the PSU does and after about 5min. its fan spins up to 100% and is deafeningly loud. The console is in rough condition and it’s been tampered with many times by the previous owners. I’ve lost contact with the seller as he wouldn’t admit to the console fault. Any idea of what could be at fault?
When it freezes, do you see any artifacts on the graphics? You case seems to be difficult to troubleshoot, but I would guess the RSX is dying and you probably need to replace it with a 65 or 40nm one
@@hardwarerepair200 No, it’s just a black screen… but after doing a bunch of troubleshooting I found out something interesting. In summary the console works when I switch its output to any resolution besides 1080p. When in 1080p the console freezes upon opening any app/game. When in 720p for ex. the console reads games and opens the digitally owned ones normally. To me it seams like a failing RSX, but I’m unfortunately incapable of any BGA rework. I will stick to the lower resolutions for now and try to do a delid of the RSX (I’m to scared to do the cell for now).
@mammal1173
I would also say that it is a defective RSX. Or it is in its last breaths. I have a Ps3 C04 which like yours started to have problems at 1080p. Then at some point it stopped outputting a picture and when I reset the picture HDMI was dead and I got a broken picture via the other video connection.
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to solder that well but it was still educational.
I am not good at soldering either. I started only 2 years ago.
Can you make a video of PS3 (fat) with a new non-PS3 power supply? maybe SFX or HDPlex GaN. If you ever make this mod or a conversion like this one make a video!
I was under the impression that the YLOD issue is not the TOKINs. It's the RSX failing because of bad underfill underneath the die of the RSX causing solder bump failure, and that it needs to be replaced, and that this 'fix' is not repair, and that ultimately every single 'fat' PS3 model is a ticking timebomb with a bad 90nm RSX chip that wil have to be frankensteined into either the 65nm or 40nm RSX from the Slim model.
you can get YLOD from 1001 and 1002 syscon error, there are a few things besides rsx failure that can throw YLOD
The guy in the video said it correctly, also Felix mentioned it in his video that the RSX failing code is 3034, 1002 is usually the tokins
Not all fat models have the 90nm chip my cechl01 has the 65nm chip in it from the factory only the first revisions of the fat model have that 90nm chip in it so any cecha01 I forget the other model but yeah cechl01 and forward have the 65nm or 40nm chip in them
You’re right about HL having 65nm but those models don’t have hardware BC which is what the OP really meant
Both the TOKINs and the RSX have the chance to fail in early models. It's just which component fails first. Eventually, we might need to replace both.
thx for video the 2R5TPE470M9 its good too?
Tantalum capacitors are heat-sensitive. Too much heat can cause them to pop, or you can simply reduce their lifespan.
12:05 What about resoldering the old connector to the new battery
Remember that a particular error in syscon can be a fault in multiple PS3 components and potentially good NEC tokin will be replaced for no reason
That's indeed true! It's like a doctor diagnosing a patient. Even the same symptom could be due to different diseases.
Eventually they will go bad. This NECs were problematic back then in other electronics. Toshibas were notorious for failing due to this caps.
Wish I had the equipment to fix my old fat backwards compatible PS3 YLOD RLOD
You can directly soldering capacitors on the motherboard and do not need small one, they are on a chip if self
Thank you for sharing! But I also want to bridge the positive terminals easily.
So a tantalizer board is the perfect solution.
You should buy the little usb type-c hot plate, works great
For PS3, we need a large hot plate.
Cool you found playstation home
Power supply can do yellow light of death also... 👏
Those nec token adhesive are no joke. I just got under it and ripped it off from the middle.
What tool do you use?
@@hardwarerepair200 just some surface cutters and an exacto knife to get in there a bit.
Interesting.
Holy cow
i got error 1002 by accidentally knocked one of those tiny resistors or caps between the memory and rsx trying to delid. no error 3+++ on syscon diag.
i know the console was working before that 'big mistake' because i have been using the tantalums for both cpu and rsx for 2 years. i am newbie in measuring whether current and voltages are correct for ps3.
weirdly enough, after that one tiny thing knocked off. it can still turn on but no display and for 30 seconds then ylod. cpu is very warm and rsx a little
i have posted this on subreddit but received no response other than 'buy a new one'
1002 indicates that the RSX is not getting the power it is supposed to receive. So it makes sense that you get 1002 after knocking off components near the RSX.
Don't measure capacitors with a multimeter, it rarely goes well. Use an LCR. You can get a cheap LCR T4 (clone of German Mikrocontrollerforum's open source Transistortester) it works just fine, or any of the related devices. It's one of my most useful tools in electronics repair, it really does a lot.
I don't think ripfelx will introduce any further significant changes to the Tantalizer, and you don't need aluminium electrolytic capacitors there since it's specified for modern polymer tantalum.
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought multimemter is capable of measuring many things.
Low temp solder also helps with removal
Had the same idea or use a high powered soldering iron that can output 450c at the tip and use circular blade Dremel to cut the tokin in smaller strip so it be manageable to take apart
@@neddy1287 i would be worried about ripping off the traces if you apply too much heat too long lol
Indeed it happened to me in my very first attempt removing the NEC TOKIN.
I set the hot air to 450C and it ended up ripping off the traces together with the NEC TOKIN.
10:17 Hello,
Please where to buy NEC/TOKIN purple card after YLOD repair? Like eBay or Aliexpress? Feel free to both links...
Thank you
Here you go!
oshpark.com/profiles/RIP-Felix
Believe it or not I came up with the pcb idea a few years back I'm surprised it came out recently
I am also surprised by how active the PS3 community is!
@@hardwarerepair200 Yeah on psx-place site that where I mentioned about the pcb idea
@@hardwarerepair200 Yeah I mentioned the idea of the pcb in the psx place site
psx place is a very informative website! Most of the PS3 knowledge I have came from there.
you almost win every aspect in this project, but you lose only with small cmos battery connector😅
I just replied to your old video "Dealing with ylod in 2024" from like a year ago. Any chance you could check out my comments and explain a little for me?
I've just never encountered a circuit like that in my hobbyist repairs. I'm not a newbie in electronics repairs themselves (the work), but im well below a newbie in diagnostics and understanding more complex circuitry like logic.
If you are interested in the circuit, you can check this video.
He's basically explaining the circuit you see in my video.
ua-cam.com/video/BcJ6UdDx1vg/v-deo.html
Hey I have a ps2 and I found that has no video no sound . And there's tantalum caps under the gpu do you think that I'd my problem because I took em off and tested the mf. And there supposed to be 220mf and its reading most of them 290-300!?
The value seems normal. A working cap should have a higher reading than the supposed value.
So 300 is perfectly normal for a 220 cap.
Have you checked if the PS2 is phat or slim. As for no video or sound is usually a broken AV port or no power to the board. As you weren't clear on the information
Any chance anyone havs an idea about this-
I can insert disc, it spins it doesnt read. .
I replaced laser drive, but exact same issue. So how can i find out how to find the issue. Is it a connection problem or something else. ? I also replaced the motherboard because the previous board was unrepairable. This is where i started getting issues with disc drive. Did i get another faulty board? :/ .. I know its not much of an explaination but maybe someone here will know.
on the ps3 fat it is common for it to show ylod when running the game at the same time as playing music
If you check the syscon, you should be able to know what is causing it.
This is going to be a game changer if we can buy them premade
Computer Booter did.
You can check out his ebay
www.ebay.com/str/computerbooter916
@@hardwarerepair200 Have a direct link to the product this is just the front end store
www.ebay.com/itm/255733429246?itmmeta=01HYHDQ5MSKEJ1VEB0KBF806F4&hash=item3b8ae673fe:g:mLwAAOSwp2RlnvkH
Wait, so all this time I was scraping lacquer like a total idiot? 😂😂😂
I miss 5 years ago when I thought that capacitor problems only affected ancient hardware from 30 years ago. It seems like all retro hardware is going to be rare in the future, because most people will see YLOD and just trash their PS3.
i still got MY PS3 has YLOD 60GB still got the original box
i also got a n64 with the original box too
Are you planing to fix it and give it a second life?
I thought it was more than just the NEC tokens on old PS3's and the YLOD is also due to the same problems that microsoft had with the 360's GPUs in Xenon and Zephyr motherboards.
It sucks the hardware was faulty from the word go because the PS3 and 360 were without a doubt the last best generation of console gaming. Gaming stopped being exciting once the PS4 / Xbox One era came out and modern gaming feels like a soulless money grab with forced social engineering from investment firm consultants and microtransactions under the guise of gacha boxes..
Just like when a person gets sick, it's never due only one single disease.
When a console fails, it's never due to only one component.
Both require diagnosis to pinpoint the exact issue.
Hi guys I have a Ps3 that is behaving strangely. It has GLOD. However, when I remove the hard disk it becomes a YLOD. Well, I thought it might be a defective RSX. Nevertheless, I read out the Syscon and surprisingly it did not give me the expected error code 3034 but 1001 and 1002. Can a GLOD really be caused by defective NEC/Tokins or are the 1001 and 1002 caused by a defective RSX?
Bad rsx 3034 is the first clue most people replace the caps as well
But as I said, I don`t get a 3034, only 1001 and 1002.
Hii can anyone help me with that I have a ps3 slim when I started it's beeps 3 time and shut down and red led blink in 5th time I started it starts normal and I play GTA 5 for hours without any issues but when I play call of duty modern warfare 2 it work then doing 3 beeps and red led blink again and I don't have
temperature issue why? Also can I see the error syscon through the ps3 when it work or I need to soldiering RX and TX Also can I use Arduino uno or ESP32 to see the error code please help?
The 3 beeps during a shut down for the slim usually something minor. Do a safe mode and rebuild the hard drive and if you have access to a 2.5 adaptor and check for physical bad sectors using a paid software called HD Sentinel as well hard drive health check as a failing hard drive can cause problems to the PS3 like slow loading, crashing during games and the list goes on
Please please donate your home cache to other playstation home revival groups like splicewaves home headquarters, Destination home is close source and haven’t updated their cache repo for years now.
Oh, I didn't know there are other revival groups.
Thank you for letting me know, I will donate to all the groups I know then!
The soldering is very tantalizing
Better to install boards for tantals.
How many times have you cut yourself holding your finger so close to the knife 😭😭
Been doing a fair amount of research getting ready to buy a ps3 phat that is completely backwards compatible, I've watched a few of your videos now so thank you for the education. Have you gone over the Frankenstein mod or have a good video recommendation from anyone else? Everything I've seen is a little... Jank
Thanks
I saw a new video about Frankenstein mod which is quite good
ua-cam.com/video/c9I4aTqgMVA/v-deo.htmlsi=yGCU5DmIqaIhcVzU
is there any ps3 model which doesn't have these problems?
CECH-21xx and onwards no longer have them.
Slim/Super Slim.
Starting from model CECH2100 and onwards, it becomes very robust.
If only there's a way to buy those tantalizers in Philippines
Can't you order from oshpark? It seems they ship to everywhere.
You can just get the Gerber files from there and get any manufacturer of your choice manufacture them for you.
Excellent
New life for those backward consoles
Saving dead consoles has become my hobby now!
Kinda gay that this isn't open source, but at the very least I gotta give him props, they do what literally no other proprietary board maker for systems ever does: let you have the files so you can print them yourself. That alone kinda redeems it for me but the price is what makes it based.
It's always "nah you gotta get it from me :))" then 6 months later they're out of stock and never coming back.
$2 is for 3 boards. So each board is only $0.66.
But I guess small order PCB printing is always more expensive than large order.
Bro forgot to type ps3 on the title
Thank you for pointing it out! I have added it to the title.
@@hardwarerepair200 you're welcome brother
Hell yea dude dump that data ;p
Hasn't it been demomstrated already that replacing the caps does not fix ylod and rather it's an nvidia manufacturing process defect on some revisions or am I confusing two different issues ?
Thats the 3034 error
If its a 1001 or 1002 its usually the caps
It all depends on the syscon history. That's why always check syscon before attempting any fix.
Ylod is general hardware fault. Hence why you see he checked the syscon log to have a clearer idea of what is going on
To clearify, the most recent Tantalizer revision needs to be trimmed. You need to cut off the outer edge down the middle of the slots, so that you have a plated edge to wick solder to.
It's just designed to make soldering to the motherboard easier. To avoid using hot air, which can stress the BGA and cause a solder ball to crack. As you can see removing the old tokins can be difficult, so it's important to learn how to do it without using heat.
The capacitors I linked to were just an example, so you can refrence the right specification. You should shop around for a better price and to find ones that are in stock.
Thank you for making the Tantalizer which makes our life easier!
At 10:40, I also realized that I need to outer edge. I will do it better next time!
Thank you for the comment, I wish I could pin this. But it is under a reply and can't be pinned.