I am a student pilot, I only had 1.5 hrs for cross country night flight, plus a little extra time to clean up, when my flight school closed shop and sold off all planes but the Arrow. So I had always planned to get my complex endorsement, at some point. Well it looks like that point is now. I will be transitioning from a Warrior to the Arrow for my practical. I normally would be much more intimidated by this, but my instructor has done a great job on the training. Not cocky, just safely confident I can get it done with his help. Thank the Lord I haven't lost my CFI yet, fingers crossed. Just 3 - 5 hours to go. May need more for the complex endorsement. This video is a huge help, thank you!!!
I know this video is 5 years old, but I start my complex training in an arrow II next weekend. This was extremely helpful to help me chair fly before getting in the actual plane
I love how Arrow is the same as Warrior - engine performance instruments are hidden in a way that the meaningful part of the scale is completely obstructed from view.
Great job, as usual, you and Otto have a very professional demeanor in the cockpit. I think you'll find that the most critical aspect in moving up to more complex airplanes is not so much the gear, prop, etc. but the increased speed... which means you have to learn to anticipate what's going to happen a little quicker that before, and the faster the airplane the greater the need for planning ahead. Keep up the good work!
When I first transitioned to an arrow I couldn’t believe how quick the traffic pattern went by, and how difficult it was to stay ahead of the airplane. Now it seems so natural.
Holy crap you’d never flown complex before this?? I can’t believe it, my first flight in Piper arrow was definitely nothing like yours, it seems like it came so easy for you. Good for you! Happy flying !!
Awesome stuff. I've been watching some of the videos on your channel for a little while now as i'm now flying the arrow. I heard you on the mic one day at Deland while I was at KPCM since they share a freq. I fly though Polk State College at KLAL and our provider is sunrise. Pretty cool to have discovered your content and be in the air with you shortly after. Safe flying.
Thanks for the video. I was looking at the Piper Arrow POH, and saw the explanation of the gear warning/autoextension system. I was curious about some of the aspects of it, so I went looking for Piper Arrow videos. This was great. The gear-transition light is visible both when you retract the gear on takeoff and when you extend it for the slow flight. The red warning light is visible when you're slowing down for the slow flight. I gather you locked out the auto-gear-extension before the slow flight sequence? Otherwise it would have just extended the gear as you slowed down, right?
gevmage The auto extension in this arrow actually doesn't work. Maintenance placarded it out. But with it working yes in that situation it would auto extend. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm actually learning to fly in a Piper Lance II (pa32) so complex is basically all I know haha. (Flew a Cherokee archer II some when I was like 13 so I suppose that's not entirely true😂) It always amazes me how much the drag increases when you lower the gear on final.... Good video btw!
Nice production here. One suggestion: rather than give us the pre-commentary on the drive to the airport, why not use the exact same time at the end of the video and tell us about how you're feeling and what you thought about the lesson. As the viewer is watching, whether experienced or not, we are forming opinions. It would be nice to hear your opinion as well
Did you notice a lot more torque on takeoff, and in climb as well? I am transitioning to a Dakota after flying Cherokee 160s and an Archer II. I'm curious as to how the Arrow compares to the Eagle.Great video!
Quite a big difference between the arrow and the eagle definitely.. Noticed I had to use a lot more right rudder on takeoff.. In flight though I thought it was talkative my similar to the eagle!
Very informative video, nice step up from the warrior. I would rather own and fly the warrior. Wonder if the heavy gear mechanism up front makes it nose heavy plus the bigger motor upfront. PAX in the back would also help.
It's the heavy nose gear that makes it so heavy. It's really hard work to taxi haha. Thanks for the kind words! The warrior certainly is easier to fly!
Good job,Was the door not latched?I noticed some light coming thru , This video a plus since I will be doing the checkout in an arrow as well for my Commericial.I own a Piper Cherokee so hopefully the transition wont be too difficult,
Loved watching this! I can't fly for real unfortunately but I use X-Plane and the vFlyteAir Piper Arrow, which looks and performs surprisingly close to this one!
Hey I know that arrow. I fly out of DeLand aviation myself. I'll be flying that arrow in a short time. I'm just finishing up the instrument rating and gonna move up to the arrow and multi real soon.
Another great vid Lewis!! 👍🏻 Out of interest, how long have you been over in the States? What took you there, and have you done all/most of your flying there? Keep 'em coming lad! ✈️👏🏼
Hey mate.. Been over here for 10 years now and I've done all my flying over here. My mum and dad bought a holiday home here in 2000, and we started coming here a lot and in the end decided to live here!
Anna Myous Great question.. Before starting my training and even during training, I always used a flight simulator. It helped me immensely and I would encourage anybody to use one
When cycling the prop 3 times on run-up, what you'd expect as oil pressure ? Thanks (edit: just heard from Felipe "look at the oil pressure ... there's a drop"
hey lewis Gabe again I am working on Instrument raiting right now and working on getting the written down. I was wondering if you had any advice on studying for it and what you recommend to do to study for it?
Hey Gabe.. I really like the Gleim Written Exam Guide.. I'm currently going through the flight instructor ones. For every rating they have served me really well. I would suggest getting that and the ASA Oral Exam guide. As you go through the Gleim, go through the ASA on the side so you can learn fully what the Gleim doesn't tell you, because although there is a lot of information in the Gleim, it is a study guide, not a stand alone study book. You will notice that a lot of questions that come up on the test, are in the book, so you will be familiar when you get to the test!
Go with Lewis' advice but then enroll in an instrument "boot camp", approximately $400 for two days on the weekend, you'll be well prepared for written test. Take test 2-3 days after boot camp. During those 2 to 3 days, take the online test from your Boot Camp provider and when you score 3 consecutive tests with more than 85%, you will know you are ready for the real thing. I was struggling with homestudy until The CFII I clued me in to the above method and it made things so damn easy!
Josh Bascii I started in a warrior, moved to Cessna, then back to warrior, then arrow. Flying the arrow is like flying a heavy warrior if that makes sense
Try a PA-32 if you want to talk about heavy rudder pedals lol. You probably have by now though. Learning how to trim out in the pattern, especially final, in the PA-32 has definitely made me a better, smoother, more consistent pilot. Trim is of the upmost importance.
I'm completely against mounting anything (cameras) on windows of airplanes. An aircraft two miles away is just a speck that can easily hide behind a GoPro. VFR means see and avoid. If you can't see it, you can't avoid it.
so one little switch to bring the gear up????? makes it complex???? i dont get it. all you got to do is remember to hit the switch to bring them down when landing! monkey can do that....no?
Retractable gear, retract and detract-able flaps, and the ability to control your propeller pitch is what defines a complex aircraft, it's not just the retractable gear.
Nice video. I actually delivered this particular Arrow (5347F) to a customer at CRG way back in 1999, I'm glad to see she is still flying. Thanks!
I am a student pilot, I only had 1.5 hrs for cross country night flight, plus a little extra time to clean up, when my flight school closed shop and sold off all planes but the Arrow. So I had always planned to get my complex endorsement, at some point. Well it looks like that point is now. I will be transitioning from a Warrior to the Arrow for my practical. I normally would be much more intimidated by this, but my instructor has done a great job on the training. Not cocky, just safely confident I can get it done with his help. Thank the Lord I haven't lost my CFI yet, fingers crossed. Just 3 - 5 hours to go. May need more for the complex endorsement. This video is a huge help, thank you!!!
I know this video is 5 years old, but I start my complex training in an arrow II next weekend. This was extremely helpful to help me chair fly before getting in the actual plane
I spent a lot of time flying an Arrow. Loved that plane.
Good practical demo on "why" a constant-speed propeller is cycled multiple times before flight. Great flying!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Top latch of door was not secured
I love how Arrow is the same as Warrior - engine performance instruments are hidden in a way that the meaningful part of the scale is completely obstructed from view.
Great job, as usual, you and Otto have a very professional demeanor in the cockpit. I think you'll find that the most critical aspect in moving up to more complex airplanes is not so much the gear, prop, etc. but the increased speed... which means you have to learn to anticipate what's going to happen a little quicker that before, and the faster the airplane the greater the need for planning ahead.
Keep up the good work!
You make a really good point. The speed will mean more planning to stay ahead of the aircraft. Thanks for watching and giving me your input!
When I first transitioned to an arrow I couldn’t believe how quick the traffic pattern went by, and how difficult it was to stay ahead of the airplane. Now it seems so natural.
Holy crap you’d never flown complex before this?? I can’t believe it, my first flight in Piper arrow was definitely nothing like yours, it seems like it came so easy for you. Good for you! Happy flying !!
The airplane I learned in and did my initial checkride in was a Piper Arrow. Loved that plane!
UA-cam suggested this just now! It's cool seeing you as a student. You're very confident!
Dee Anna haha.. the good old days!
love ❤ and support from india 🇮🇳
Awesome stuff. I've been watching some of the videos on your channel for a little while now as i'm now flying the arrow. I heard you on the mic one day at Deland while I was at KPCM since they share a freq. I fly though Polk State College at KLAL and our provider is sunrise. Pretty cool to have discovered your content and be in the air with you shortly after. Safe flying.
Ross Crichlow Oh cool man! It’s always good to hear from fellow pilots that I share the skies with!
What a beauty! The only complex I've flown is a C182RG, but I just like the arrow better, such a graceful and quick plane! Another great video man!
I can't compare it to anything else because I've only flown the Arrow, but it is really nice to fly. It's very heavy, but easy to control!
I seen a pilot add full props on descent and banking and we excelerated to 170kts quick.
Really great job! It's hard to believe this is your first time flying a complex aircraft. Well done!
Thanks Robert! Appreciate the compliment!
What does everyone mean by ‘complex’?
@@AviMus82 I know I'm late, but a complex aircraft includes a retractable gear, adjustable flaps, and a controllable pitch-propeller.
Hey man love the videos. I fly at Flysmart now and an instructor told me about your channel, love the vids
Nice job I'm doing my single engine commercial on the arrow
It's a great aircraft.. I've had a lot of fun flying it
Very Nice I just bought my first airplane last week, It’s a Piper Cherokee 140
Really enjoyed this, can't wait to fly a complex type!
Thanks Ben! Yea it's been a good transition.. Quite different!
very nice is like a heavy warrior II. good job
Like a brick with wings!
I owned a Arrow 200 for years great aeroplane
Nice dude. I got my PPL in the Piper Archer. I miss flying that plane! :)
Thanks for the video.
I was looking at the Piper Arrow POH, and saw the explanation of the gear warning/autoextension system. I was curious about some of the aspects of it, so I went looking for Piper Arrow videos.
This was great. The gear-transition light is visible both when you retract the gear on takeoff and when you extend it for the slow flight. The red warning light is visible when you're slowing down for the slow flight. I gather you locked out the auto-gear-extension before the slow flight sequence? Otherwise it would have just extended the gear as you slowed down, right?
gevmage The auto extension in this arrow actually doesn't work. Maintenance placarded it out. But with it working yes in that situation it would auto extend. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm actually learning to fly in a Piper Lance II (pa32) so complex is basically all I know haha. (Flew a Cherokee archer II some when I was like 13 so I suppose that's not entirely true😂)
It always amazes me how much the drag increases when you lower the gear on final....
Good video btw!
I'm flying an arrow III for my commercial rating. I really liked the video. Where did you get the checklist? I like it better than mine.
Nice production here. One suggestion: rather than give us the pre-commentary on the drive to the airport, why not use the exact same time at the end of the video and tell us about how you're feeling and what you thought about the lesson. As the viewer is watching, whether experienced or not, we are forming opinions. It would be nice to hear your opinion as well
Very nice idea, and I thought about doing it, I even recorded a little bit, however it didn't come out to a presentable standard. In future though!
Great video!! Know why they call it Deland? Because it's near Desea!
Nice video mate - look forward to the next one!
Did you notice a lot more torque on takeoff, and in climb as well? I am transitioning to a Dakota after flying Cherokee 160s and an Archer II. I'm curious as to how the Arrow compares to the Eagle.Great video!
Quite a big difference between the arrow and the eagle definitely.. Noticed I had to use a lot more right rudder on takeoff.. In flight though I thought it was talkative my similar to the eagle!
quickly as possible please, i'm waiting... thanks... haha... nice video as always!
Quickly as possible! Go go go!
I flew an early Diamond Katana with the 90 horse Rotax and a constant speed prop - not a complex, but not entirely simple either.
The prop really adds a lot more to the workload!
Very informative video, nice step up from the warrior. I would rather own and fly the warrior. Wonder if the heavy gear mechanism up front makes it nose heavy plus the bigger motor upfront. PAX in the back would also help.
It's the heavy nose gear that makes it so heavy. It's really hard work to taxi haha. Thanks for the kind words! The warrior certainly is easier to fly!
+LewDix Aviation well you could also say the Warrior is extremely light on the front end… Take your pick :-)
Good job,Was the door not latched?I noticed some light coming thru , This video a plus since I will be doing the checkout in an arrow as well for my Commericial.I own a Piper Cherokee so hopefully the transition wont be too difficult,
Loved watching this! I can't fly for real unfortunately but I use X-Plane and the vFlyteAir Piper Arrow, which looks and performs surprisingly close to this one!
Hey I know that arrow. I fly out of DeLand aviation myself. I'll be flying that arrow in a short time. I'm just finishing up the instrument rating and gonna move up to the arrow and multi real soon.
Awsome video man! I really learned from this video 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi mate, could you give details on overall costing for flight school please?
awesome I start on the arrow tomorrow!
Another great vid Lewis!! 👍🏻 Out of interest, how long have you been over in the States? What took you there, and have you done all/most of your flying there? Keep 'em coming lad! ✈️👏🏼
Hey mate.. Been over here for 10 years now and I've done all my flying over here. My mum and dad bought a holiday home here in 2000, and we started coming here a lot and in the end decided to live here!
Good flying well done
Wow ! I live in Kissimmee. Can I go to the airport and watch the planes take off ?
Well Done !! Nice panel !!
I'll start taking classes at FlySmart pretty soon! Great flight, LewDix, maybe you'll be my instructor :)
Nice job, well done!
Good job man. What are you working on now? CFI???
Thanks man..Affirmative.. Nearly done with it
How do you feel about computer flight simulators preparing you for some of the things you will see in the actual cockpit?
Anna Myous Great question.. Before starting my training and even during training, I always used a flight simulator. It helped me immensely and I would encourage anybody to use one
Talent Acquisition I say use it to master checklist and procedures, not for the actual flight.
When cycling the prop 3 times on run-up, what you'd expect as oil pressure ? Thanks (edit: just heard from Felipe "look at the oil pressure ... there's a drop"
Massimiliano Chiani yep you look for a drop and then a rise as you put the prop control forward again
@@LewDixAviation Thanks, I just bought a similar plane and I need to ferry it so I appreciate your videos
One quick question: how/why are you in FL? Are there visa issues to doing your training out there?
hey lewis Gabe again I am working on Instrument raiting right now and working on getting the written down. I was wondering if you had any advice on studying for it and what you recommend to do to study for it?
Hey Gabe.. I really like the Gleim Written Exam Guide.. I'm currently going through the flight instructor ones. For every rating they have served me really well. I would suggest getting that and the ASA Oral Exam guide. As you go through the Gleim, go through the ASA on the side so you can learn fully what the Gleim doesn't tell you, because although there is a lot of information in the Gleim, it is a study guide, not a stand alone study book. You will notice that a lot of questions that come up on the test, are in the book, so you will be familiar when you get to the test!
Go with Lewis' advice but then enroll in an instrument "boot camp", approximately $400 for two days on the weekend, you'll be well prepared for written test. Take test 2-3 days after boot camp. During those 2 to 3 days, take the online test from your Boot Camp provider and when you score 3 consecutive tests with more than 85%, you will know you are ready for the real thing. I was struggling with homestudy until The CFII I clued me in to the above method and it made things so damn easy!
what did you fly before the arrow? I learned in a warrior, and have been looking at getting my complex next.
Josh Bascii I started in a warrior, moved to Cessna, then back to warrior, then arrow. Flying the arrow is like flying a heavy warrior if that makes sense
Try a PA-32 if you want to talk about heavy rudder pedals lol. You probably have by now though.
Learning how to trim out in the pattern, especially final, in the PA-32 has definitely made me a better, smoother, more consistent pilot. Trim is of the upmost importance.
...and now he’s in Airline school! 👍✈️✈️✈️✈️
... and now he's done with school.
and now hes an airline pilot
Doesn’t look like the door was latched properly I can see sunlight through the gap
Didn’t you go out of business?🧐
I'm completely against mounting anything (cameras) on windows of airplanes. An aircraft two miles away is just a speck that can easily hide behind a GoPro. VFR means see and avoid. If you can't see it, you can't avoid it.
Never had trouble seeing traffic in the 6 years I’ve been recording flights. Not 1 issue with them.
KDED!!! That’s my Home base
why does the cockpit ook like a cessna
Great video and nice to hear a bit of Lancashire rather than the usual American!!
Music is too loud bro
so one little switch to bring the gear up????? makes it complex???? i dont get it. all you got to do is remember to hit the switch to bring them down when landing! monkey can do that....no?
Retractable gear, retract and detract-able flaps, and the ability to control your propeller pitch is what defines a complex aircraft, it's not just the retractable gear.
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It is very distracting to have this way too loud music mixed into the video. I finally gave up viewing, .....a waste of my time.