THE BEST Z790 Motherboad 2024 😱👑
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I swear I was half way through some tech video and saw Frame Chasers dropped a video…. I clicked off that shit so quick to watch actual helpful content…. Much love from Detroit !
yeah man i can't watch GN any more, 5000 different testing metrics that are completely useless
@@gozutheDJ did you see the new efficency per watt or whatever bullsht xD once channels get big, they go down hard
@@SilkMilkJilk Once Steve went out and started his Rocky tour of thumping channels in the nose, he's sounded like Rocky ever since.....
@@SilkMilkJilk im honestly fine with it as an interesting metric the problem is people are brainwashed into prioritizing dumb shit like that
i still don't understand why we can't have a nice budget friendly 2 dimm board that's not an ITX. either way you rock.
Because it would be a wasted opportunity for mainboard manufacturers to cash in hard on people this channel is build around : hardware ocds.
@@NoName-st6zc Actually you misspelled Itx idiots.
It’s because the mainstream see’s 2 dimms as a budget feature. “Where are my 4 slots”. Large tech reviews even say this in their reviews for budget boards.
trueee i remember while selling my AMD trash i had b650m hdv and people were like "it's 2 dimm bro you should reduce the price because of that"@@FrameChasers
@@FrameChasers Have you got any reports of performance issues with larger memory A-die dimms?
I already feel your motivation and energy boosted after meeting these many tech people at CES. Keep going man, tech youtube won't be the same
I just wanna say thank you, with your videos I got this mobo, and tcreate 6800 ram and pushed them to 7168 with a 13600k. And I’m sure they can go further. You’re the man!
@6:26 Ive had a suspicion that the uneven cooling of the motherboard (back vs front) causes instability. If a contact frame makes that big a difference, think about what board flexing would cause, even at tiny scales.
The master x is 450, a price class (or two) below the Apex Encore, which actually more directly competes with a similarly priced Gigabyte Tachyon (also a 2 dim mobo with some things stripped out here or there).
I'm so glad I came across your video today. I was just about to buy the ASUS Z790 Dark Hero on Amazon, you saved my pockets. I'm going over to your Discord Channel and your Website for now on. I'm not a computer guy but I want to get the best out DCS WORLD FLIGHT SIM.
Almost 30K brev!! Leggggooo
@framechasers would you recommend z790 apex silver at this point? At a goodish price? Or go for this board
Refreshed boards are one of my favorite things to follow, thank you!
Best intro in a long time
Does it have coil whine? And the one in the affiliate link is not the one in the video.
How does this board compare to Aorus Pro X w wifi7?
I've been getting good results with the TGroup-TCreate memory kit you recommended on a refresh MSI Tomahawk motherboard. I still have a lot of testing to do but so far so good! :)
My non refresh Tomahawk does 7400 but that's only on a few beta bios versions. On the latest official bios it's a wash, one reboot fully stable and the next one it isn't. I'm very curious about the refresh board, I'd be guess it can do 7600/7800.
The only problem with Gigabyte is no 8x 8x pcie slot bus width. If you need it you already know.
That could be a pro as well, because now you can use two slots and not take away lanes from the GPU
Are those advertised clocks only with one dimm?
Nice video. Will look go for thus mobo
So what mobo should i buy for that new i9 fireball i should never bought
I watched the intro 20 times now !!😂😂
Excellent job.
Pretty cool. A decent way to get XMP bros in with less trepidation on if a decent value MB that can run their 7200 sticks...aside form the CPU, and if someone wants to learn to FAFO, there's some room there.
grab a 8000-rated kit that has a good 7200 profile, I say
Is DDR5 A-Die similar to DDR4 B-die in that I just want to grab the cheapest (affiliate linked) T-Force Delta kit and they can all be tuned up to 7800 (with enough FAFO/patience) or is it better to grab the 7800/8000 and start from there?
The 7200’s I link on my website are the same bin as 8000’s, it’s similar to Bdie yes
Der8auer has a video up with the $1300 extreme or whatever its called, he only gets 7800 stable as well.
I wonder though which of the 4-DIMM boards performs best with all 4 slots populated? Purely a curiosity because you really need to have crazy ram capacity needs before that’s necessary with DDR5.
I'm running all 4 dimms with ddr5 5600 MHz but maxing @ 4800 MHz
curiously HWinfo also counts the seconds 2 by 2 in this review. (happens to a friend with a new apex encore).
I got a similar board (B650 Aorus Elite AX) for $30, and definitely, when I get the chance, I'll catch this mobo too, hopefully soon, to move my primary system to Intel.
Have Questions about asus z790 prime a wifi have 7200 ram but keep crashes need help what might what the timing be
hey my friend cheers from Brazil i love your channel. my english is broken but i can understand you cause you have good diction. Tip of advice, when you speak a bit slow and without slangs is so muhc easier to everyone out the to understand. God bless you
please do a vid on the whole igpu/quicksink thing please. so confusing. so if i want a motherboard for gaming/streaming and video editing it has to igpu something or another?. lol. what board is that then?, what cant i get?. my heads gone!.
Amazing valuable content as always!
I got the master x and got the exact same result, 8000 unstable but 7800 was just fine!
When had one before 14th gen, tREFI was bugged and couldn't be changed. Is this still the case? If so, the best 4 DIMM might go to the Nova for a better OC.
@@stevog893have you tried to change trefix9 timing? 1 trefix9 is 1024 trefi.
does the master x crash on 8000 when playing ??
I'm planning to order this board for a new build (Hyte Y70 and I9-14900K on it's way) with 32G G.Skill Trident DDR5-8000. Since 8000 seems iffy at best, does one select the same clock speed / voltage for 7800 in the XMP Booster settings? I'm seriously lacking knowledge in this department, so anyone's two cents is appreciated!
how many Xs was that? i counted like 6
what app is he using to test ram?
Nice atleast a normal pricing board :D does it also have an ai oc like you talked about with the guy from asus about? will you do a video with the ai oc of an asus board? would be very interesting
Another banger great video
Would it be safe to say Gigabyte Z790 AORUS PRO X could do atleast 7800 then ? it’s the white option from gigabyte.
7800 is not safe to say at all per se. 7600 is. That is assuming you test ycruncher VT3, HCI MemTestPro, TM5 etc... and not only one app. If you're only relying on Karhu solely then 7800 os feasible.
Hello @FrameChasers. How about the Asus Strix Z790-E Gaming? Did you tried that motherboard? What's your opinion about it? Thank you!
Great info. Just picked up an open box version for $186 on amazon. I'll sell my z790 tomahawk for not much less on ebay once I swap them out and start playing.
I did same but bought new for 250$ and swaping my trash tomahawk that cant do 6800 🤮 on 14900k and 7400 kit
I don't know if I got lucky but i'm running my tomahawk with 14900k (microcenter combo) @ 7200xmp. But then again, I only did prime 95 for a half hour stability testing.At 7400 I get an error after 5 minutes of prime95. @@Tpecep
Well, I returned my aorus x and reinstalled my tomahawk. My aorus had trouble running 7000 while my tomahawk can run 7000 stable with tight timings.@@Tpecep
check out the msi m power 2 dimm 199usd just announced
Thought this was already talked about at CES regarding 8000 / 8200MHz and why the QVL list shows 8200 and most of us can't get it stable. The performance gain you get from this is marginally small, as was also discussed. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Its only for 1 stick in qvl. Watch better, 2 sticks are 7800 if not mistaken
The king is apex!
WILL THIS BOARD SUPPORT (2x16GB) 7800MHz PC5-62400 CL38 A-DIE PAPERWORK SAY 7600 MAX ?
I would say the best would be the Z790 Taichi, recently got one and was debating betwen Taichi and the Aorus Elite .... Very happy so far.
So what are you able to get with it compare to this 7800
those ram heatsinks..😍
Do you know where I can get it?
I'm sure he'll announce it on his channel when they're ready so subscribe to get the notification!@@Supra__24
they are bitspower ddr5 ram covers @@Supra__24
Leila 🐈video at the end for the W💪🥰👍!
Thanks to for the supporters making these tests possible 👍💪!
great video
The Elite Pro Dark Extreme
What's the maximum we can get stable with 192GBs and what motherboard and kits are great for that?
Im curious of this as well. I'm more of a workstation guy than a gamer but I like speed and memory capacity.
Reliably? 4400. 5200 with a bit of fafo on a not dogshit board.
Only decent kit I've found is the low profile teamgroup hynix m-die 6800 kit. I tried a bunch and those were the best out of the box. Or put your own heatsinks on as that will be a good bit better. Price is steadily creeping up on memory and nand so buy it now if you need it. Running 4 of those sticks at 5600 with a 120mm fan. Took considerable fafo on a ebay $160 asus z790 strix-e board. Current uptime: 22 days, memory usage 72%. No slow downs, corruption, crashes, weird hickups, passes karhu 24 hours, y-cruncher 24 hours, runs jvm parsing containers no issues (unbelievably memory sensitive) etc... Probably never going to update bios as that will 100% drop the speed to 5200 or lower from what others have observed on this board. Quad rank is super super heavy on the IMC and notoriously hard to drive stable at any meaningfully high frequency. I have seen people able to do 6000 so that's probably the tippy top you can hit. 6000 is probably the "8400" for quad rank.
Have to say though, the jump from 128gb to 192gb was bigger than anticipated. Can't really cap it unless I go out of my way to do so compared to 128gb. But that'll change in about 3 years. Gotta love modern software.
@@LiveType That's great, thanks for sharing. I'm looking at buying the team group 6800 ones myself, but if I buy this generation, it looks like I'll be disappointed even if I limit it to 96GBs. Just going by a comment I saw on pcpartpicker, someone couldn't even get 6800 MHz to work.
hey my friend cheers from Brazil i love your channel. my english is broken but i can understand you cause you have good diction. Tip of advice, when you speak a bit slow and without slangs is so muhc easier to everyone out the to understand. God bless you
Im about to put together a 14700kf + rtx 4070 + asrock nova wifi z790. But im in doubt about the ryzen 78003d. ppl keep me telling its better. but i dont know about the 1% lows. can you please give some advice on this.
Thanks for the video is Z790 AORUS MASTER X can do 8000 xmp or 7800 xmp
XXX !!! I bought an AsRock Nova and It Rocks !!!! Thanks for the info !
Nova is cool but this board is 250$
This is cheaper and does 7800
@@mateoharmiss5830 I bought my Asrock Nova at 312 euro. Now the price reached 400 euros. It selling a lot cause is a good mb.
So this is quad with only to sticks of ram. In other words you are not using all 4 slots?
Half tempted to send back my apex that just got delivered and get this and save 400 bucks.
if so, manybe get the pro X for about hundred more ($350) and at least have some nice features here or there. Go ghetto fabulous and not just ghetto kek
Can someone send me the link of those ram heatsinks pls!!!! 😊
Which one is the best Asus rog strix z790 e wifi 2 or gigabyte aorus z790 Elite X wifi 7 ?
Stay away from ASUS. Gamer Nexus recent vid on rog ally proves it and do yourself a favor and not buy ASUS products.
I got it for my brothers build and it passed 7600 karhu and ycruncher vt3 without fafo. Just set 1.4 on q and imc.
The Elite Pro features
Brooo those frame chaser heat sinks on the ram are sexy af…. I’m guessing they actually work too?
They are Bitspower heatsinks
Would a 12900 K be OK for a 3090 TI I’m running a 5800X at the moment which is holding me back.
I have my other 5800 3-D which needs to be sold and I have a good motherboard for that so it would basically be a trade because I’d get the same money for both
Yes a 12900K with decent memory will completely utilise a 3090 Ti, a 12900K will even push a 4090 to the max in almost all game titles.
@@micb3rd appreciated, I think the DDR4 is really holding that card back. Not that I’m pushing it hard but simply changing back to the 5800X and doing minor bios tweaks the 3090 Ti boosts a bit higher now cause of the higher clock speed on the CPU. With the 5800X3D who cares about the higher L3 cache when they handicapped it slowing down the clock speed with it never being able to hit the advertised 4.5Ghz boost without doing a -30 in PBO even with it running at 50-55c.
Dunno how AMD thinks they had the best gaming cpu when the most important part is single core performance on a “gaming cpu”
Based on telemetry from over 100,000 test runs, 99.99 % of errors detected with RAM Test show up within 24 hours. Less than 1 % chance of seeing errors after 6 hours.
Why karhu is 10$? If only it costed like 5$ bro 😢 And how license on it works? If I do clean windows install etc?
@@Tpecep It's 50 % off now. For personal non-commercial use the license is simple: pay once, use forever. You can reinstall Windows and change parts.
Test that Asrock Mini itx that support ddr5 8000
I’ve tested every single itx board, those results are in the discord only
amazing. great content. very impressed. gigabyte really pulled a rabbit out of their ass cheeks with this one. up until now i thought asrock was going to keep the crown for the 4 dimms but gigabyte really has the knockout blow with this one, the killer being only $249. 249 and you get 7800 as long as you have decent IMC, what a steal. Jufes always finds the Gems that render the rest of the market obsolete. i remember when he proved a 13600k with some good DDR4 B-die rendered the entire AM5 platform obsolete. crazy
My only issue is Gigabyte has been cheaping out on resistors and capacitors since late 2019 to current, they still make a great product, but the amount of RMA"s on everything of theirs has been out of control with the cheap resistors and caps... Like the board is awesome but I would not want to trust it as my daily, I would rather have an APEX or Rog Strix Z790-E"yes I know 7200mhz cl34 is a given and 7400-7600mhz is the max then its all IMC luck past that on the E's still better than the Maximus hero/dark hero/Extreme and Formula best 4 dimm memory lead layout board asus has"
Sir what motherboard do you recommend for i9 14900K processor?
MSI Z790 Edge, maybe the Dark Hero, but Asus needs to earn trust back.
Guy on one of the 7800xt reviews, on another channel; was bragging about what a new 7800xt was going to be like overclocking. He then compared it to his 6900xt that he IS getting 2500mhz on a 1.13V yada yada. 7800xt is going to be shipped Feb 2nd. Should be a good live stream when he figures it all out.
Imagine his surprise, he better not use any benchmarking tools.....
My man
Bought this board, cant do 7400 xmp with 14900, VST error in 5 sec. Sad
Is that 14900 non-K? Board itself got 8 layers pcb and fixed topology, capable of doing 2x16 A-die at 7200 ball park
Jufes does thi mobo 7800 mhz with xmp enabled and no custom voltages? Or did you adjust voltage self to get 7800 stable??
Can i buy this thing set it to 7800mhz xmp enabled and ready to go?
Custom voltages, get 7200 in the description for XMP
@@FrameChasersthank you my man. Is it possible to get the custom voltages in the discord? 🤔
It’s different for every CPU / Board my man, you have to tune it. I only help people in the $100 tier in my discord with voltages. It takes too long to validate to help everyone
@@FrameChasers if your interested in growing the channel and getting more customers then just a suggestion:
Make a video sharing your settings on something that’s 4-5 years old so people can then set their stuff and see real results.
Validates your credibility and competence by throwing a bone to the community once in a while. Not saying to give your hard work away for free but one video like I suggested may get you 20-30 paying customers since they can see that you’re legit.
With all the scammers out there I think it would help out quite a bit but of course some other clown will take that tune and call it their own.
Think of it as a free sample but again it’s your gig, just trying to help.
Do you have a channel more successful than mine?
I have the aurous extreme z790 and it crashes all the time. Im replacing it :/
Big W for Gigabyte
i'm even kinda okay with them claiming 8266 if you can say it's "almost stable" at 8000. i'd have preferred the claim to be 8000, but the acceptable level is very close to the claim (i am pretending they claimed 8200 rather than 8266 but w/e). usually the actual result is nowhere near the claim, ergo i think it's worth some points when the actual result is able to be pretty close to the claim.
I’m here for algo fuel and cats 🐈
Any news about evga z790 kingpin bios update 😢
I told everyone to get rid of their EVGA products more than a year ago
@@FrameChasers omg , so what should i do , evga not released any bios updates for intel 14th 🥹🥹
Ok people i don't know anything about PC's but im gonna build a monster PC (with help). Now i know im gonna get a 4090 from Asus and Intel i7 BUT im stuck at choosing an motherboard Z790 ATX. First i wanted the Asus Dark Hero because everyone was saying its the best on the market and it looks crazy but now i hear that there are alot of unhappy customers and even that the motherboard going up in flames. I want to play the heaviest games on the highest settings without troubles which motherboard do you guys recommend??? Again i don't know nothing about it im a console gamer.
Join the discord if you have questions
Hey why don't you check the “z790 aorus master x”?
Who’s going to pay for it
@@FrameChasershell yeah baby, made his mouth shut up 🔥🔥
Daymn! This cheapo gigabyte even has a vr vout sensor built it. It already has a seal of approval from bz, I really wish it had a post code. Still a perfect mobo though.
Gigabyte = coil whine, in some cases quite extreme. I had top respect before for Gigabyte before, actually considdred them top dog, but had to return a x790 UD AX here in Germany. I will never buy Gigabyte. Asus as well, never ever. Asrock, maybe MSI, sticking with those currently. Cheers
Great videos FrameChasers!
Jufes bro it says single stick of ram they run on 8266 look better :)
Gigabyte boards are always surprising. It's what's their best at. I like how he's always surprised about Gigabyte boards. If you forget gpus and psus gigabyte is a greater board supply.
Was this 2 dimms in a 4 dimm board? Or was it, all 4 slots populated?
2 Dimms on a 4 slot mainboard. Don't ever expect 4x4 ever to get anywhere close to this.
@mlw636 I ask because I run 64gbs (4x16gb) at 7200mhz with the msi z790 Ace, with 2 dimms i can only get 7400mhz, it is weird. I could go buy a 2 dimm board that I know will do 8000mhz but I would really like to be able to find a 4 dimm board that could do 8000 with 2 dimms and 7600mhz or higher with 4. i am always on the lookout for reasonably priced upgrade. That gigabyte board is around a third of the price of the Ace.
@@danielabbott9312 you found something good ?
@styloxcrypto no but I was able to get my up to 7400 and 2 dimm up 7600mhz by lowering the power profile for the cpu from unlimited to 320watts and 390amps and gained a massive amount of stability for the cpu and that allowed me to push my Ram further
Wait a sec, we dont review 4 dimm motherboards for max 4 dimm stability?😅
I love you ❤
keep calling out the BS ill keep watching
lol that means you probably going to try to push it higher then 8200 😁
cute kitty
When is quad channel becoming mainstream???
Hell yeah
gigglebyte
mem speed does not mean faster framerate = why this does not matter essentially
Run your board at 2133 then.
There's a diminishing return at some point? Yes, but to say that faster memory doesn't equal more frames, that's just misinformation or lack of knowledge about the topic.
Frame Chasers: Yo from Sweden, love your content. Since im a noob though; The link in your description on the MB takes me to a Gigabyte Aorus Elite X Wifi7 not the X AX but maybe it’s more or less the same MB? (Maybe a bit retarded)
When will these companies realize that naming something Nova is not great for the Spanish-speaking market since it means “no go”.
guyyyyys pleeasseee someone explain what is fafo 😭😭😭😭😭😭
F*** around and find out
Of course it's an Aorus Elite.
Good kitty
I cannot trust gigabyte as a company after blaming customers for cracked GPU, blowing up PSU and crappy monitors from them. Sorry, but they lost my respect as a company even if they are able to beat APEX boards in 2 years from now
And they still haven't apologized for it as far as I know
Aorus isn't gigabyte aorus warranty is excellent in my experience
@@harrywilson7980it is…. I don’t trust them 1 bit even if they are not labeled (same brand)
Our rule around here is all vendors will screw you over equally, assume you never have a warranty passed your return period after purchase
@@FrameChasersyeah, but still. I wouldn’t be surprised if their cheap selection of PCB or cheap quality I’ve observed over the years is on this board too
8200mt/s cpu is not that good, i have seen 8400 and 8600mt/s memtest stable screenshots
Less than 20% 14900s can do that. Mine does 8500 but it is also 110 sp what would put it as a golden samole since he average is 97 or so. The best known 14900 is 122 sp binned by asus and can post 9000+ but that is a almost one of a kind. So 8200 is on the 20 upper percentile
@@Solrac-Siulare you talking about MC Sp or ? Because i havent seen any above 91, and the 100+ ones are from boards that havent been updated with BIOS
Memtest stable is easy, has to be 24 hours of karhu or I don’t care
@@FrameChasers facts. Karhu is the only program that has caught errors that others didnt. For me.
@@FrameChasers yes it is stable on karhu for more than 24 hours., but you have to keep in mind that mine was not a cpu purchased from a retail store, it was already binned and it did cost me more than the usual price . The mc that someone was asking is 89
I get 7600 solid on a Strix-e wifi about to try team group 7800 see if I can get 8000 let you know if it happens
Validate with 24 hours of karhu
@@FrameChasersyour comment is funny after watching your video from CES of RAM overclocking
Do what you want, but that’s how we validate in our community
Okay third comment for the algorithms….. but this board surprised the F out of me!
Meanwhile, my 14900K and z790 apex encore cant post XMP on my 8000 mhz 48 gb gskill kit lol. Must have a shit MC
Gskill has went downhill over the years. After DDR5 hit, gskill has been dropped like a rock. They are like the base Corsair ram, great for xmp, don't gamble on much more.
@@kramnull8962 Unfortunately, I don't even get XMP out of them with my CPU. I believe my limiting factor is how well my memory controller plays with stock XMP voltages. Porblem is (mine in particular) 4090 has really weird display issues after I have to CMOS reset and doesn't work with my monitor and I have to connect it to my old Sony Bravia to get display. Makes FAFO a pain in the ass.
You hear it in video that this particular CPU in the test can do 8200 on other setups.
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