SDR1390, Tuono, M1000R, SFV4: torque/suss reliability, epic noise/reliability, best everyday/vibration, epic package/heat - all these bikes have their strengths and weaknesses, but what a great time to be riding with such choice
SC Project exhaust - is that a previous model fitted to the 1390? Don't see a new one listed on SC Projects website for the 1390? Pickup my 1390 in 2 days, trading in my 18 1290 SDR!
Had mine 2 weeks luv it my 5th sdr 567 miles nearly there to unleash the full beast mode 👍🏼thanks ktm luv it the look and that engine 👌🏼 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼fantastic bike
I bought a 2023 1290RR instead. -Engine mostly the same (as the guy said, you don’t feel the difference) -Suspension is better on RR -Chassis the same -Electronics mostly the same. Just can’t set the wheelie height and it doesn’t “sit” into the launch control. -Forged Wheels are better -All carbon -Tech Pack & Track Pack included -Less weight -Lithium battery Costs the same now as a stock 1390. At least where I live.
@@tsarnevitsthe 2023 RR APEX Pro is still better. Only if you invest another 5k for the new aftermarket APEX PRO 8500 Cartridge + Rear suspension they would be better. Stock isn’t.
Love that bike Cant believe I contact SC exhausts just yesterday ,about a slip on for the 1390 and they said they haven't made on for it yet and you have it on
@@arildbjorge thank you not sure why SC email my back say no that the 1290 doesn't fit and said, there working on it to keep checking there website maybe want to charge more for the same pipe
@@ozbiker5311 I have my 1290 AR slip on mounted on my new 1390 as we speak. Exactly the same fitting. Any homologation papers would offcourse not be valid (if its approved for road)
Donovan, you look totally cool on that bike especially when going around corners ! If it’s true that Euro 5 has forced the increase in capacity of the Super Duke it’s an interesting unintended consequence of making engines “cleaner” and one I’m sure that Environmentalists did not intend. Haven’t seen Mat for a while, hope he’s doing okay 🇬🇧
@arildbjorge my 2023 1290 super adventure S starts to wobble at 125 mph. I've seen videos of the previous gen super dukes with the evo suspension do the same thing. Just curious. I'd swap to aprilia for a tuono in a heartbeat but nearest aprilia dealer is 3 hours away.
You know what, you say the same thing everytime KTM launches a new superduke, maybe put the 1290 evo head to head with the new 1390 (1350) evo, see if you can really tell the difference.....
Not just him every channel does the same for the price and the changes won’t be worth it go for the new 1390 that cost a lot more than a 1290 . Hopefully a v4 duke will come in the future then will be worth it to upgrade .
I had the 1290 evo 2023 and rode it 15 000km. I now have the 1390 evo and there is for sure a lot of improvements. Mainly the handling is the most noticeable improvement over the 1290.
Unfortunately, Ktm is passing the reliability testing towards his customers. I would wait a bit before buying any new KTM, especially when their support is non existent and the dealership/service network is not any better. And yes, I'm a KTM owner which had to find out the hard way that KTM don't give a damn about their customers post sale.
Let me guess, you live in the US? The land of dealers know fuck all. Reading forums and facebook groups, I have discovered that 90% of "KTM issues" is down to dealers doesnt know the product theyre selling and people doing their own services poorly or not at all.
I will send you my service history of a brand new KTM Super Adventure S 2022, which stayed in service for.... almost one year... imagine buying a brand new bike and one month later you send it to dealership for fixing, then ride it for several weeks and send it again and again...and KTM not willing to replace the bike or extend the warranty although they clearly didn't have a clue how to fix it or how long will it take. That might change your opinion about all those haters. Lost one year of warranty because KTM don't give a s** about their customers after sales. Any brand can have issues, but the way you treat them as a manufacturer makes all the difference (bot KTM and the dealership ignored)
@brandonstrong6846 It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason). 1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service. 2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested). Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again. 3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times. 4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails. 5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty. The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM. As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
@brandonstrong6846 It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason). 1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service. 2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested). Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again. 3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times. 4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails. 5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty. The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM. As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
@@brandonstrong6846 It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason). 1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service. 2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested). Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again. 3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times. 4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails. 5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty. The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM. As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
@@Unclefactsit is, suspension is much better, engine is better V4 has torque from the low like V2 and runs much longer than V2. Even brakes brembo, but on aprialia they are more sensitive, stoppoe with one finger. Tech is much better, more customizations 😉 Both bikes owned new.
Sorry, I ride KTM and I won't buy a new one. The bike looks like sierra hotel india tango. I would get a Streetfigher or Tuono V4 b4 I even considered another KTM at the moment. The design looks unfinished and the designers were like "that is good enough." The bike looks like it was hammered out on a Friday afternoon by a 4yr old with a pencil and a sketch pad.
Totally disagree. I have a Gen 2 and I get my 1390 this week. It looks totally bad ass. The Aprilia and Ducati may be great on a track but in the road torque is king. And the 1390 is the king of torque. There is no better bike out there.
@@dernst2023atgmailif torque is your only metric then you should go buy a Harley with a Milwaukee 8 on it. There is much more to it than torque. I am sure you are very limited on any experience on say a V4s, the Tuono Factory, BMW's offerings, etc. Yeah lol. You say there is no better bike out there but every tester when they do a shootout disagrees. And I have owned many and I disagree as well. All your assessment tells me is you have limited experience if any with other bikes in the class because if you did you wouldn't say its rhe best bike. That statement in itself is laughable. My 2017 H2 would have taken a King Kong sized dump all over a 1290 or a 1390. Then again so would many bikes I owned, both street as well as track.
@@rivercityrambler7751 lol all garbage. Sure you can go 100 in first gear but that is literally worthless. A sport bike with torque wins all. Harley? Are you stupid? Comparing the 1390 to a harley? lol Get a clue.
SDR1390, Tuono, M1000R, SFV4: torque/suss reliability, epic noise/reliability, best everyday/vibration, epic package/heat - all these bikes have their strengths and weaknesses, but what a great time to be riding with such choice
Superbe vidéo merci
Thanks for the content I was waiting
SC Project exhaust - is that a previous model fitted to the 1390? Don't see a new one listed on SC Projects website for the 1390? Pickup my 1390 in 2 days, trading in my 18 1290 SDR!
Nice bike, good review, better weather, the best roads! Jealousy from a wet and windy UK 💚
Had mine 2 weeks luv it my 5th sdr 567 miles nearly there to unleash the full beast mode 👍🏼thanks ktm luv it the look and that engine 👌🏼 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼fantastic bike
Sold my 2022 SDR Evo to get the M1000R Comp but still itching for this one
1350cc to be precise
Thank you KTM!!!
Superb review of the new SDR . Nothing like
the Beast.
I bought a 2023 1290RR instead.
-Engine mostly the same (as the guy said, you don’t feel the difference)
-Suspension is better on RR
-Chassis the same
-Electronics mostly the same. Just can’t set the wheelie height and it doesn’t “sit” into the launch control.
-Forged Wheels are better
-All carbon
-Tech Pack & Track Pack included
-Less weight
-Lithium battery
Costs the same now as a stock 1390. At least where I live.
The fork and shock are completely new dude...
@@tsarnevitsthe 2023 RR APEX Pro is still better.
Only if you invest another 5k for the new aftermarket APEX PRO 8500 Cartridge + Rear suspension they would be better.
Stock isn’t.
Waiting for this engine to appear in the SAS line, then I have something to upgrade to ;-)
Wow!🆒😎💪
Im still able to hear the review. Can you turn the music even louder please?
Love that bike Cant believe I contact SC exhausts just yesterday ,about a slip on for the 1390 and they said they haven't made on for it yet and you have it on
1290 gen3 ones fits on 1390
@@arildbjorge thank you
not sure why SC email my back say no that the 1290 doesn't fit and said, there working on it to keep checking there website
maybe want to charge more for the same pipe
@@ozbiker5311 I have my 1290 AR slip on mounted on my new 1390 as we speak. Exactly the same fitting. Any homologation papers would offcourse not be valid (if its approved for road)
Donovan, you look totally cool on that bike especially when going around corners !
If it’s true that Euro 5 has forced the increase in capacity of the Super Duke it’s an interesting unintended consequence of making engines “cleaner” and one I’m sure that Environmentalists did not intend.
Haven’t seen Mat for a while, hope he’s doing okay 🇬🇧
It's like KTM built a steel cage to tame that Beast of an Engine..
Top review from a top channel.
Did they fix the issue with the high speed wobble?
No issues with that on my previous bike, 1290 evo 2023. Did 275 km/h on it and dead stable.
@arildbjorge my 2023 1290 super adventure S starts to wobble at 125 mph. I've seen videos of the previous gen super dukes with the evo suspension do the same thing. Just curious. I'd swap to aprilia for a tuono in a heartbeat but nearest aprilia dealer is 3 hours away.
My 2017 has never had that issue.
I had that problem on my 2021 1290. Check the torque of the steering column
You know what, you say the same thing everytime KTM launches a new superduke, maybe put the 1290 evo head to head with the new 1390 (1350) evo, see if you can really tell the difference.....
Not just him every channel does the same for the price and the changes won’t be worth it go for the new 1390 that cost a lot more than a 1290 . Hopefully a v4 duke will come in the future then will be worth it to upgrade .
I had the 1290 evo 2023 and rode it 15 000km. I now have the 1390 evo and there is for sure a lot of improvements. Mainly the handling is the most noticeable improvement over the 1290.
@@salsadurauk Why in Gods name would you want a V4 over the current engine? Less torque and more fuel consumption you are after?
@@arildbjorge V4 sounds better (only with aprilia)
@@grenphelps7455 Yes I agree, but I dont buy my bikes based on sound...
It might be a legend but will it be reliable?
Unfortunately,
Ktm is passing the reliability testing towards his customers. I would wait a bit before buying any new KTM, especially when their support is non existent and the dealership/service network is not any better. And yes, I'm a KTM owner which had to find out the hard way that KTM don't give a damn about their customers post sale.
Let me guess, you live in the US? The land of dealers know fuck all. Reading forums and facebook groups, I have discovered that 90% of "KTM issues" is down to dealers doesnt know the product theyre selling and people doing their own services poorly or not at all.
No, Romania. All the services were done in KTM Service as the bike was new.@@arildbjorge
I think it's more of a dealer issue. My dealer has been excellent.
its 1350 CC, not 1400.
He corrected himself and stated it was actually a 1350cc
Always get the ktm haters, do yourselves a favour and get one.
I will send you my service history of a brand new KTM Super Adventure S 2022, which stayed in service for.... almost one year...
imagine buying a brand new bike and one month later you send it to dealership for fixing, then ride it for several weeks and send it again and again...and KTM not willing to replace the bike or extend the warranty although they clearly didn't have a clue how to fix it or how long will it take.
That might change your opinion about all those haters. Lost one year of warranty because KTM don't give a s** about their customers after sales. Any brand can have issues, but the way you treat them as a manufacturer makes all the difference (bot KTM and the dealership ignored)
@@ionutalexandruradu9873 you comment on all the sdr videos. State what actually happened.
@brandonstrong6846 It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason).
1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service.
2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested).
Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again.
3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times.
4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs
At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails.
5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty.
The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM.
As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
@brandonstrong6846 It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason).
1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service.
2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested).
Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again.
3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times.
4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs
At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails.
5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty.
The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM.
As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
@@brandonstrong6846
It had the misfire issue (Ricardo_Yeep also had a video on his channel but deleted it for some reason).
1. Take 1# I noticed the problem in the first 100 KM. When the bike went to first service interval (1000km) I mention this problem, but it wasn't reproduced by the KTM service.
2. Take 2# Several KMs later after almost crashing into a corner because the bike cut power and then gave it all back, I've sent the bike again to KTM service where they were able to reproduce the problem and tweaked the fuel mapping (as KTM suggested).
Took the bike back, rode it for 50 KMs and the misfire happened again.
3. Take 3# After a week I've send the bike back where the bike had some ignition sensor replaced. Took the bike again, rode it for 400 KMs, in which the problem happened 8 times.
4. Take 4# Back to service... where it had the first flywheel replaced. The problem was still not fixed. The bike had 2000KMs
At this point I tried to reach KTM Austria (via support website, phone, email, social media) and ask for a new bike because it had 3 failed service intervention for the same problem , but KTM didn't bother even to say hi. I reached the Dealership (the dealership is not the same company as the service) and told about the problem, and he told me "don't worry , it will be fixed" and then stopped responding to my calls/emails.
5. Take 5# Back to service again... The bike got a new flywheel again (it stayed almost 3 full months in service this time). Took the bike, rode it for only 100 KMs as it was already crazy cold (middle of November) and the problem seem to be fixed (I cannot be sure 100% until I ride it for more KMs). Then the winter came so could ride, currently I have a broke my leg and cannot test to see if it was indeed fixed....and it has less than 4 months out of the warranty.
The reason I keep writing on all KTM SDR videos is to create awareness about the position of the brand regarding it's customers so that people know what they are getting into in case they get a bad apple from KTM.
As I keep saying, ANY bike can have issues, but the quality of a brand is determined by how the manufacturer/dealer treats those issues. In the end lost one year of warranty, canceled vacations, full insurance and on top of all I cannot even sell the bike because of the service history... Cheers!
If only 1400cc.
It may be fast, but it wouldn't keep up with my XT250.
Dear KTM please redesign the UGLY front end.😅
Owned previous version and said nahhh aprilia tuono is better for the same money ;)
I did the same, hated the missed shifts
except it isn't.
@@Unclefactsit is, suspension is much better, engine is better V4 has torque from the low like V2 and runs much longer than V2. Even brakes brembo, but on aprialia they are more sensitive, stoppoe with one finger. Tech is much better, more customizations 😉
Both bikes owned new.
Umm no it's not, and it's soooooo old. Looks to retro to me
@@Dzinbhudist horsecrap, it's older, everything on it is older tech. gimme a fuckin break
Sorry, I ride KTM and I won't buy a new one. The bike looks like sierra hotel india tango.
I would get a Streetfigher or Tuono V4 b4 I even considered another KTM at the moment.
The design looks unfinished and the designers were like "that is good enough."
The bike looks like it was hammered out on a Friday afternoon by a 4yr old with a pencil and a sketch pad.
I am ex previous KTM owner, go with italians, much better bikes, currently with tuono, ducati seating position is too aggressive.
Totally disagree. I have a Gen 2 and I get my 1390 this week. It looks totally bad ass. The Aprilia and Ducati may be great on a track but in the road torque is king. And the 1390 is the king of torque.
There is no better bike out there.
@@dernst2023atgmailif torque is your only metric then you should go buy a Harley with a Milwaukee 8 on it.
There is much more to it than torque. I am sure you are very limited on any experience on say a V4s, the Tuono Factory, BMW's offerings, etc.
Yeah lol.
You say there is no better bike out there but every tester when they do a shootout disagrees.
And I have owned many and I disagree as well.
All your assessment tells me is you have limited experience if any with other bikes in the class because if you did you wouldn't say its rhe best bike.
That statement in itself is laughable.
My 2017 H2 would have taken a King Kong sized dump all over a 1290 or a 1390.
Then again so would many bikes I owned, both street as well as track.
@@rivercityrambler7751 lol all garbage. Sure you can go 100 in first gear but that is literally worthless. A sport bike with torque wins all. Harley? Are you stupid? Comparing the 1390 to a harley? lol Get a clue.
@@rivercityrambler7751 wow you`re the god of motorcycles🤣.