What if Jet Fighters Never Existed?

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @prius_power
    @prius_power Рік тому +422

    This is such a cool idea, you should totally make this a series

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil Рік тому +72

    Appearance wise, it reminds me of the SNCASO SO.8000 Narval. A French piston plane. But it had the same general layout, with even the counter rotating props. I really like the look of that aeroplane. And I quite like the look of this one too.

    • @orcabeast8006
      @orcabeast8006 Рік тому +3

      That’s what I was thinking too! The resemblance is uncanny! Love the design ofc

  • @seapickles5762
    @seapickles5762 Рік тому +204

    I want to see a MiG-21 recreated with this type of turboprop arrangement. I think it would look hilariously cursed

    • @thelethalpredator672
      @thelethalpredator672 Рік тому +24

      What about a f14 with turbo prop. I tried that on simpleplanes and it didn't work well lol. Mostly cause I wad trying to make a it ww1/early ww2 themed with wing sweep so yeah..

    • @object_333
      @object_333 Рік тому +9

      Do 335 noises

    • @Aviator224
      @Aviator224 8 місяців тому

      I did a turboprop f-14 in KSP once and it worked surprisingly well

  • @pux0rb
    @pux0rb Рік тому +75

    This has a pretty cool design philosophy behind it. I could see it being made in an alternate version of real life where jet engines just didn't work right. It also has a really striking silhouette.

  • @Thiefwriter
    @Thiefwriter Рік тому +153

    You're my absolute favorite niche-interest youtuber at the moment - The quality of your voiceover combined with the meditative build of the craft is an excellent combo. Keep doing your thing ❤

  • @pasttenseofdraw5791
    @pasttenseofdraw5791 Рік тому +25

    its goofy but its the perfect kind of goofy that allows for some brilliant ideas and designs that can be truly memorable - a series would be great

  • @chickenthelittle
    @chickenthelittle Рік тому +38

    You should really make this a series it would be so fun

  • @bardo13
    @bardo13 Рік тому +33

    Definitely want this as a series. I know flyout doesn't have this capability yet, but what if helicopters were developed before fixed wing aircraft?

  • @1lop1234
    @1lop1234 Рік тому +13

    Love the alt history series idea! Maybe companies with varying design doctrines like focusing on heavier planes, faster planes or manuverable planes for dogfighting?

  • @itsdokko2990
    @itsdokko2990 Рік тому +15

    i'm a huge fan of creating alternate worlds. if you decide to proceed with that idea, you've got my whole attention there. hell, i might join later to the party

  • @Hunter-ww9rd
    @Hunter-ww9rd Рік тому +14

    Great idea for a series! You could do this as well for classes. Modern heavy fighters, hydroplanes and flying fortress type bombers.

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 Рік тому +5

      We can not only make this a series but an entire aviation genre.

  • @1Kaisermerlin
    @1Kaisermerlin Рік тому +5

    I absolutely feel the same about turbo props being interesting and would make a fun fictional niche. Really wanna see it in gaming.

  • @ItsACamellia
    @ItsACamellia Рік тому +72

    definitely interested in seeing this as a series, always preferred the late WW2 and early cold war era aircraft.
    EDIT: regarding the ejection seat, I don't think it would be unlikely that even at its size the aircraft could have an ejection seat, the He-162 had an early ejection seat and that was very small, and the Do-335 had even great issues with tail and prop placement (solved by the same method as you, Explosives in both the rear prop hub and vertical stabilizer that blew them clear)

  • @Cyberboi
    @Cyberboi Рік тому +5

    I love it! It's like a modernized SO.8000, would be nice to see more

  • @greatgianttomato3753
    @greatgianttomato3753 Рік тому +4

    Yeah this is really cool please make this a series, seeing multiple countries, all with unique designs would be amazing

  • @buck4826
    @buck4826 Рік тому +8

    Love the series idea. Something like a jet/rocket powered P38 would be cool.

  • @monika-Chr
    @monika-Chr Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love alternate history / lore serieses with this kind of stuff! As a dungeon and dragons DM, this kind of story telling is the backbone of so many of my campaigns. Seeing something like this, where certain countries have their own design principles and schools of thought, naming conventions, and aircraft development where jet engines never really caught on would be simply incredible. Very much so hoping that idea comes to fruition!

    • @monika-Chr
      @monika-Chr Рік тому +1

      Like just thinking about the repercussions of that, I imagine IR based sensors and weapons would be less useful given the colder visible operating temperatures and Radar / TV based sensor suites would be much more prevalent.

  • @lemanbest7356
    @lemanbest7356 Рік тому +2

    I think this is a sick concept I love it, and can not wait to see what your amazing mind can come up with. Keep up the good work :D

  • @judet2992
    @judet2992 Рік тому +2

    This thing is sick! Love it!

  • @jorjorwell1984
    @jorjorwell1984 Рік тому +1

    Gotta say this is probably my favorite looking plane you’ve made

  • @terencyowens9491
    @terencyowens9491 Рік тому +1

    This is interesting. Even just modding 1940"s -1950's era warbirds, you have a lot of material to play with.

  • @rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778
    @rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 Рік тому +2

    Would love to see reimagined jet fighters, with their jets replaced with turbo props, but the same basic frame and fuselage

  • @fenrisforgeaustralia
    @fenrisforgeaustralia Рік тому +1

    I love the idea of an alt series. This aircraft reminds me a little bit of the A1 Skyraider. Keep up the great content mate, can't wait for more.

  • @Jude_M
    @Jude_M Рік тому +9

    Have you ever thought about making a video about what you think air travel will be like in the future. I would like to see your take on a futuristic airliner.

  • @Milchreismitschoko2
    @Milchreismitschoko2 Рік тому +3

    Great Channel! I found you a couple of days ago and watched all your videos. Your builds and testings are very nice and entertaining. Keep it up!

  • @FirepithLol
    @FirepithLol Рік тому +2

    You sir, are everything I love. Alternate History, space, storytelling and hypothetical technology. I WANT IT ALL ! ! ! Keep making content good sir. Also Messier 82 is a pretty galaxy I agree :-)

  • @RobertMock-pu9yx
    @RobertMock-pu9yx Рік тому +2

    It kind of resembles a De Havilland Vampire/Venom, but with a turboprop engine. I like it.

  • @loading...5879
    @loading...5879 Рік тому +2

    That introduction scene of the plane looks like a War Thunder trailer. Beautiful work as always! Keep it up, I love your content!

  • @frumpkin9282
    @frumpkin9282 Рік тому +6

    Would love to see all the potential layouts for 'modern' prop fighters.

  • @solarflare623
    @solarflare623 Рік тому +2

    Yes! I would love to see this turn into a series!

  • @simonghesquiere6728
    @simonghesquiere6728 Рік тому +2

    hyped by this concept and the possibility of a serie

  • @mr.pinstripe7171
    @mr.pinstripe7171 Рік тому +1

    This was a pretty cool idea and honestly I would like to see you develop the world further

  • @Alte.Kameraden
    @Alte.Kameraden Рік тому +2

    There were a few turbo props which could go super fast. Though I remember one was so loud that it would cause ground crews to vomit because the tips of the propellers would break the sound barrier so it was like a constant none stop sonic boom.

    • @pleaseenteranamelol711
      @pleaseenteranamelol711 Рік тому +1

      Yes, the thundershriek. The torque of the turbine engines was so strong that it was pitching to the left constantly, as the plane essentially attempted to rotate around the driveshaft. Loudest plane in history.
      I wonder if they could have used the deafening loudness as a weapon? If it had such awful effects on people to begin with, surely it could have been made to be even louder and more powerful. Imagine a collection of enemy soldiers being suddenly buzzed by 3 or 4 of these things at once.

  • @skyekid1
    @skyekid1 Рік тому +2

    This is my new favorite video, the idea and concept is amazing, I guess great minds think by of arguments(of alternated histories)! This was an amazing plane by far as it looks like a P-50* (if I didn't forget the name and mistake a plane*) The video was entertaining! Nice work!

  • @nathanielhinz4946
    @nathanielhinz4946 Рік тому +2

    Such a cool dieselpunk concept! Definitely please do more about it.

  • @demariultraastra864
    @demariultraastra864 Рік тому +2

    I gotta say that’s a pretty sweet looking design, really works strangely well with the loads of weapons on it

  • @josiahrodriguez8020
    @josiahrodriguez8020 Рік тому +1

    This might be my massive SAAB bias but this looks a lot like the SAAB 21 but with a Prop-Fan. Absolutely love it, reminds me of some of the CAPSTONE projects i see from the Aero track seniors at my school.

  • @Bananas6439
    @Bananas6439 Рік тому +2

    This guy explains so good and yet only has 11k subs he deserves more

  • @megan00b8
    @megan00b8 Рік тому +1

    Oh don't be silly, we absolutely adore your rants about stuff while the timelapse is playing. On that note, dunno what editing software you're using, but you could record the audio before you make the timelapse so that you can talk about whatever you want to.
    PS: please consider making a BSG Raider, I want to see what that flying horseshoe can do.

  • @jpase
    @jpase Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see this as a longer series!

  • @bookshpan
    @bookshpan Рік тому +1

    I love this idea, you should make a series of it imo

  • @paxxweidert5408
    @paxxweidert5408 Рік тому +1

    Please do more videos like this! Side note, the plane looks a lot like one I drew a while back, its cool to see something like it in 3D!

  • @bobolam7342
    @bobolam7342 Рік тому +1

    I love alternate history. I think it would be pretty cool to see how different technologies such as stealth (ducted fan shroud around props?!??), supersonics and ARAAMs work out with different these design philosophies.

  • @jkerman5113
    @jkerman5113 7 місяців тому +1

    Talking about fictional company lore sounds awesome. I like reading wikipedia etc about all the company and political reasons behind, say, the MiG-15 and its engine. It would be so fun to have a fictional aerospace company that doesn't just develop aircraft, but has a whole universe of politics and shenanigans to go along with it.

  • @flapperofwar7445
    @flapperofwar7445 Рік тому +1

    That sounds like an awesome idea for a series!

  • @Pathfinder118
    @Pathfinder118 4 місяці тому

    One concept that could be interesting for this universe is the development of Moto-jets, where the compression and turbine flow is powered by a piston engine, this in this universe could produce a 'jet' aircraft as the sort of inbetween for conventional jets as they become a new technology, perhaps they could just never develop a good compressor and so thats why no one ever made good jets, so a piston engine allowed them better rotation and compression, and so the heavier twin design became somewhat common, I could also see the planes shutting off their props and engaging rocket boosters to intercept and then switching back on the props for engagement, making multi engine designs common in the setting.
    The combos and ideas could be limitless, im loving this.

  • @REAL-BIG-HAM
    @REAL-BIG-HAM Рік тому +1

    I think that Rotodyne style aircraft would be a very interesting concept for this alternate history series

  • @clockworkgiant9070
    @clockworkgiant9070 Рік тому +1

    I am a sucker for alt history, especially alt history aviation. Crimson skies was my first introduction to video games after all.

  • @nolanpeters5462
    @nolanpeters5462 Рік тому

    This is basically why I want this game. please continue this as a series

  • @borisbishoff2505
    @borisbishoff2505 Рік тому +1

    I love the alt history stuff! Can't wait to see what you come up with next

  • @megamango3216
    @megamango3216 Рік тому

    I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!

  • @maxbennett5412
    @maxbennett5412 Рік тому +1

    5:20
    Maybe to allow the turboprop to be in front they would put the radar and other equipment inside sing mounted pods on the end or bottom of the wing?
    Oh yea and if you are thinking of cold war turboprops the Thunderscreech is a good example of why propeller planes trying to go beyond the speed of sound are a bad idea.

  • @vaughnrow208
    @vaughnrow208 Рік тому +1

    This would make an amazing series

  • @SuperHahaha1313
    @SuperHahaha1313 Рік тому

    100% I’d binge this series. Please do it!!!

  • @grooverchan1600
    @grooverchan1600 Рік тому +1

    Love this concept

  • @levidotson6610
    @levidotson6610 Рік тому +3

    I love Thai concept, and would absolutely love to see this turn into a series

  • @safeish57
    @safeish57 Рік тому +2

    awesome video! cant wait to see how aircraft will develop without jet engines

  • @RadiantCataclysm
    @RadiantCataclysm Рік тому

    This would be an incredibly entertaining and creative series. Definitely continue with this.

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Рік тому +1

    I think this creates an alternate reality where rocket fighters also likely exist. We might even see a Bell XF-1 or something. Turboprops have serious difficulty getting close to the speed of sound and actually exceeding it becomes wildly inefficient. Yet at moderate speeds they can loiter much longer than rocket-powered aircraft. There might even be hypersonic glide interceptors.

  • @Admre
    @Admre Рік тому

    I didn’t expect your account to post so many videos when I first subscribed, but I’m enjoying them all👍

  • @khoaa2451
    @khoaa2451 Рік тому

    Please make this a series, love this stuff :)

  • @quill901
    @quill901 Рік тому

    i know its a semi old vid rn, but id love to see this as a series, seems like a really cool idea!!

  • @cegicreator2476
    @cegicreator2476 Рік тому

    I love in depth alternative history and I can't wait to see more of this series

  • @ShinShinMiao01
    @ShinShinMiao01 Рік тому +2

    Nice video idea! It'll be amazing to explore the "possible" tech trees in our world lol

  • @APerson-fj6yx
    @APerson-fj6yx Рік тому +3

    Maybe make a super YB-35? Way bigger and faster, with stealth capabilities

  • @AndrewKellner-sv3tb
    @AndrewKellner-sv3tb Рік тому +3

    He always makes great vids

  • @Konym
    @Konym Рік тому

    Absolutely love the upload schedule. Flyout is great!

  • @Joshua_Moore1917
    @Joshua_Moore1917 Рік тому

    This is an awesome idea, and I'm all the way down for this being a series.

  • @levidotson6610
    @levidotson6610 Рік тому +5

    I’d love to see an interpretation of a high speed biplane in this style

    • @enderjed2523
      @enderjed2523 Рік тому +1

      Why not the complete inverse, a jet powered biplane? (Monoplanes never being invented)

    • @levidotson6610
      @levidotson6610 Рік тому

      @@enderjed2523 I love it

    • @enderjed2523
      @enderjed2523 Рік тому

      @@levidotson6610 If the Fairey Swordfish could do ridiculous things with a 690hp piston engine, imagine what it could pull off with a jet strapped to it.

    • @tslaughter3804
      @tslaughter3804 Рік тому

      @@enderjed2523it would really need some pretty strong wings and then again it would limit the speed greatly but I would love to see something like that

  • @kaiserepsilon4011
    @kaiserepsilon4011 Рік тому

    This is almost exactly like a scenario I have for a world I'm building.
    I hope to see more of it.

  • @DimentiaGaming
    @DimentiaGaming Рік тому +2

    This aircraft closely resembles the Swedish J21

  • @alfredocas1415
    @alfredocas1415 Рік тому

    i absolutly love that you almost build the mwari from paramount group, you have the same mind as their engineers, nice

  • @rfak7696
    @rfak7696 6 місяців тому

    This is really cool. I always wante to see how late WW2 superprops with more modern sensors and armament.
    Please, turn this into a series

  • @stormy_in_vr640
    @stormy_in_vr640 Рік тому

    I'd love this as a series, it was a great watch!

  • @colinslye4814
    @colinslye4814 Рік тому

    just found your channel today if you dont make this a series ill never be back. In all seriousness though amazing videos keep up the good work (and please make this a series)

  • @yep5624
    @yep5624 Рік тому

    Really like the idea of following a series on your channel

  • @rebelchileantuna6180
    @rebelchileantuna6180 Рік тому

    holy shit this was amazingly good to watch, i really hope to see more of this

  • @_The_LunchBox_
    @_The_LunchBox_ Рік тому +1

    Ideas like this are why I want this game. I just wanna make a bunch of cool (float)planes.

  • @brucetonkin2882
    @brucetonkin2882 Рік тому

    Please never stop with the rambling voice overs Messier. They make the videos informative and are just as enjoyable as the builds (for me at least)

  • @rjds1800
    @rjds1800 Рік тому

    I really want to get my hands on Fly Out to try out ideas and create designs that never made it off the drawing board or what-might-have-been.
    I'm looking forward to seeing multiplayer matches where you could have air racers or dog fighters that has one rule you must use a fictional design or you designed it yourself.
    Now that would be interesting!

  • @rulingmoss5599
    @rulingmoss5599 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if in a world where jets had never existed, if supersonic props could ever be possible, no ones ever tried it with newer technology due to how impractical and noisy it would be, but I often wonder if it is in fact theoretically possible if someone dumped obscene amounts of money and effort into it. I know the thunderscreech was supposed to achieve that but I cant quite count it since it also had a jet assisting it.

    • @eddiesmith7867
      @eddiesmith7867 Рік тому

      If you're still wondering the fastest NA racing props these days are going 550+ mph on level flight. A combat ready supersonic NA prop plane would've never been possible in their prime sadly

  • @cliffy4418
    @cliffy4418 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see you recreate the aircraft from the game crimson skies, Was kind of an alt history fully based around aviation. Loved that as a kid

  • @captainstroon1555
    @captainstroon1555 Рік тому

    This turboprop timeline looks very interesting. It's basically mechanical speculative evolution and I'm all here for it. What I'm especially interested to see would be this alt-hist world's version of the XF-84H Thunderscreech and a 5th gen fighter turboprop equivalent.

  • @dougroberts3840
    @dougroberts3840 Рік тому +1

    This is cool, awesome looking plane, as I do not have Flyout, I was wondering if you'd take the German Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow), put turbo props front and rear, and modernize it a little while maintaining it so that one can still see it's clearly a Do 335. Thanks

  • @obamabinladenblair1509
    @obamabinladenblair1509 Рік тому +1

    This is a really cool series. Do you think, when the game comes out, we could download these planes?

  • @jackmurray1466
    @jackmurray1466 Рік тому

    this plane is gorgeous, kinda feels like a sea venom but ive always loved the look of props over fans

  • @cornholioshintern273
    @cornholioshintern273 Рік тому

    Pls make this a series it is super interesteting

  • @strigoi_guhlqueen8355
    @strigoi_guhlqueen8355 Рік тому +5

    Would love to see a stealth bomber in this style

  • @Armymac
    @Armymac Рік тому

    I love this. Can't wait to see the next one!

  • @TheGrace020
    @TheGrace020 Рік тому

    Anything you do is epic and i will watch! Love it 😼

  • @snaeb-ps3bd
    @snaeb-ps3bd Рік тому

    This would actually be epic, maybe we could have some kind of new technology based around propellors

  • @tmg8486
    @tmg8486 Рік тому

    It reminds me a whole lot of like french SO.8000 Narwhal which I love as well. As always, the plane's turned out pretty great

  • @EhmedCousCous
    @EhmedCousCous Рік тому

    Really enjoyed this! Now you gotta make a supersonic one!

  • @thereoc
    @thereoc Рік тому

    These explanations are phenomenal

  • @TheMonkeymasher
    @TheMonkeymasher Рік тому +1

    Would love to see you build some high altitude aircraft, maybe starting at things along the li Ed of the bell X1 and working up to something like an sr71. Would be cool to see if you could launch one from another aircraft like the x15

  • @Kat_Underscore
    @Kat_Underscore Рік тому

    would love a series of this

  • @definitelynotafish2162
    @definitelynotafish2162 Рік тому +1

    May I introduce the thunder screech

  • @Louis_Roper
    @Louis_Roper Рік тому +3

    I love these videos!!!

  • @TerranSpacePolice
    @TerranSpacePolice Рік тому

    reminds me of the anime 'sky crawlers'. i dont remember ever seeing any jet aircraft in that show (though i could be wrong) and you mentioning companies brought that right back.

  • @waterconsultant10
    @waterconsultant10 Рік тому

    Turbo Prop World idea: I really like this world building idea. What if there was also a systemic reason for turbo prop domination? You mention that it combines the best of both worlds - speed and efficiency. Maybe in your world fossil fuels are rarer or difficult to access - like beneath the sea floor - and/or nations are so far apart that jets just consume too much fuel to make sense for regular use (your map in another video had many islands/continents separated by a lot of water).