@@Crimsonfresno nope. The 3080 10Gb is Like one of the best value GPU from previous generation. If you want to buy it used search for the 12Gb model or just jump to 3080 ti
Love Watch market at US. Thats Sick. You cant get anything Like that here. But Hightech? I so often Sell my MacBook Pro at the us. Because our at the Eu on graymarket so much less 😅
I got the 3600x paired with my MSI b450 gaming pro carbon AC and a 1660 super. It's the first PC I've built after having a crappy optiplex with a 1050ti. I'm very happy with my build
I was literally just running a 3600 with a 3080. Just upgraded to a 7800x3d, but it was running wonderfully. I mainly upgraded because the board had no bluetooth and a usb type C port, and only 1 m.2 ssd slot. Performance wise, I was perfectly fine.
i mean that's subjective. i have a r5 5500 and rx 580 and I'm only upgrading the 580 to a 5700xt because no driver support and I want to do some xenia emulation. for example, a lot of people I know only play stuff like Minecraft so that setup is more than they would ever need.
Guys are so obsessed with the bottleneck thing, you'll have a bottlleneck for a while after you upgrade the gpu but once done yyou just upgrade the cpu and then you're set
Yeah, bottleneck is a big deal only for new build, when you want the best perf for your buck. So not overpaying for a GPU or CPU that you won't be able to use at full peak because of a bad pairing. If you are planning a CPU upgrade in 1 or 2 years, a bottleneck GPU is desirable. It will be ready for your next upgrade. Just adjust your settings accordingly in the meantime.
@@marie-franceFortinNo yeah! I agree completely: for FIRST builds, no bottlenecks (or maybe even one small bottleneck if it's an insane value proposition 👀), but in this case if they upgraded to a 6700xt or higher, they're gonna swap the motherboard eventually and will have a higher range there! I'll admit it's a more budget conscious option and not perfectly ideal but still. By adjusting for bottlenecks, you're basically restricting the system to... whatever the motherboard socket/platform has? Makes some sense, but not enough tbh.
@@socrguy123 you have to know what's a CPU job and what's a GPU job and ask more of the GPU and less of the CPU so that the CPU keep up. You have to go into the details of your game settings and not just set it to "low" or "high". I've been upgrading from one bottleneck type to the other without issues for years. For example if you have a CPU bottleneck you want the resolution as high as possible so that each frame the CPU calculated takes as much time possible for the GPU to render, high texture but low poly, stuff like that. The goal is that, since the GPU is faster, it is not waiting for the CPU to catch up because it has more things to do.
@@marie-franceFortin yea, but that's either not always possible, or not always clear in the settings. Some gpus are just too much for certain cpus, and not every game has the same CPU/GPU demands. CSGO for example is pretty much always leaning more on CPU than GPU
I have a 4070Ti with my Ryzen 5 3600. I'm still pulling over 100 FPS on AAA games at 1440p with it. I'll replace it when I make the jump to AM5 in maybe 2 years.
So good to hear the ryzen 5 3600 still have some good years on it, I got one when building my computer and I've been living in constant fear that it will have to be my next upgrade
I would highly recommend thinking IF you want to make a CPU upgrade soon (aka, this year) as well or not. If the answer is yes, I would even consider 7800xt(or nv 4070 non ti), as that's as far as best CPU for your board can take you. then go back one step at the time, until you are happy with the price. I would not go for 3060 as that's a bit too close gen to gen, so for good value for money, you might need to go +1 over. 3060 is about twice as fast as 1060, but 7800xt is 3x1060. my recommendation is to not rush it, check loads on both cpu and gpu as you use it, MAYBE even you want 2x2TB ssd instead, as they are literally half price compared to 2020
For me as right now, I just updated my CPU abit but still on 32 DDR3 ram and 3 storage devices right now I need a better GPU, I been using a 1060 6 GB for awhile now but I can replace that at some point
I'd upgrade the GPU first. If you haven't upgraded from a 3600 yet, then your next CPU upgrade should be a full CPU/motherboard/ram upgrade. The time to upgrade the CPU on that socket has passed, unless you already had a GPU which your 3600 was holding back. But you don't have that, you actually need the GPU upgrade.
id recommend going a even higher gpu then upgrading cpu later. if you go to a 3060 then you upgrade your cpu later your gpu will be your bottleneck. i always go by pick the gpu u think u need then go at least one higher. just my opinion.
Hey dude, I just built my first ever pc build with a 5800x and a 1080, looking to upgrade my Gpu from the used market in the future. Do you have any good options with a performance boost which is noticeable?
Idk for me personally i always have a bottleneck because whenever i have the money to upgrade, its like a year later, so i do like to keep a little headroom, maybe like 10%. Idk maybe i do it so that my next upgrade feels better than it really is, but i think your gpu or cpu being better than the other is fine, but having a ryzen 7 3700x with a 1050ti was crazy while i was saving up for a 30 series when the 40s came out
When I was looking a couple weeks ago I couldn't find any. Kept seeing them recommended just a couple months ago, but I'm guessing everywhere sold all their inventory around December/January. Though tbh everything seems to have gone up quite a bit the last few months. LTT had a budget build with used parts last week that must've been shot in December, the GPU prices especially are just all out of whack right now.
Wait up to 7600 XT??? I love the longevity of my build 🤩🤩 Also as someone has the 5700 xt and 3600 combo, i promise you it is an AMAZING combo! Granted a do have to tweak settings in the newer/newest games she still runs like a beast
I have a Ryzen 9 3900x that's sitting on my shelf that was getting at the time at 120 fps in MW2 with RTX 3080 10gb. It's still a good cpu just wanted to upgrade, i ended up swapping to a 7800XT too
My brother just have the same PC with R5 3600, but he had a really thight budget back at the time and the only thing he could afford for his PC was a gt 1030, and he make fine for a while but he began to play more demanding games, and i told him that he could still upgrade his GPU, and i help him got an RX 7600 and i got him a second stick of RAM cuz he was on a single stick of 8 GB of RAM, so yeah he was struggling for sure but now he can play without problems but he still have to remplace his SSD for an NVME one, he still using a 2.5 Sata and is already like 5 years old so is kinda broken right now.
Thats why i love Ryzen CPU's so much. Having a Ryzen 7 5800X, when i upgraded my PC and thinking my GTX1080 8GB was totally enough. It served me for over 6 years now. This time i Upgraded to a RTX4070Super as i wanted to play more on 1440p Monitors. It works like bliss and some games even run easily on 120hz+ Even though there could be a potential 10% Bottleneck via the Bottleneck check in GPU heavy tasks. It works totally fine :)
I got a R5 5600x and a mobo in a bundle for $340 and I am super happy with it, but I’m not so thrilled with my 3060. A better GPU is pricey but I’m gonna have to do it
everyone always forgets about the 6650xt which, at least in my experience in the usa, is often cheaper than the 6600xt and outperforms the 3060 and 5700xt, but if the 6600xt is cheaper its only 1 or 2 percent difference so going with it is fine
My RTX2080 is the bottleneck when i upgraded from a 3900X to a 5800X3D, the 1% is much improved however so it's smoother but fps hasn't changed a whole lot. I upgraded my Processor first because I still not decided what to do with the graphics card, a 7900 GRE or a 4070 super. Might even wait for the next gen graphics cards as the present gen is not really impressing me, yet the 8GB VRAM is kind of hurting in games like moded Fallout 4 or moded mechwarrior 5 let alone new games and that 12GB VRAM on the 4070 makes me think that won't have much life left in it either. Yet the 7900 GRE would make more sense but then ai have a 1st gen Gsync monitor and will lose adaptive sync since it's not compatible with Freesync. Damn walled eco systems.
I had the same results, I went from a r5 3600 to a new AM5 7800x3d and still paired with the same GPU RX 5700 I'm still playing on 1080p 144hz, there's games like wow or last epoch where it doubled or even tripled my FPS Almost every other game didn't gain that much but it's noticably buttery smooth now with very stable 0.1-1% lows
Had 3600x and a 3060ti. Not bottoenecked so far. Did upgrade to the 5800x3d which is a really solid boost in performance but thats they way i thought would be the smartest.
I may be wrong but idk if your idea of upgrading is correct. What about when the user needs to upgrade his cpu? Does he pick the 3600x so he doesnt create "bottleneck"? I think you should do a bit of an overkill upgrade to be able to upgrade further for your next one.
I would call myself knowledgeable about computers what hardware gives you what performance but why not ask anyways as its fun to hear what people would recommend. I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700X and a Vega 64. What GPU would be a suitable replacement for my Vega?
This processor is great: value, performance, compatible with PCIe 4.0 and 6 cores and up to 3200mhz RAM. Great mix with B550 cheap mobo and gpu you want to carry on a future build.
Got a 4070 running with a r5 3600. It's bottle necking but running games smoothly at decently high fps. I'm changing it for a 5800x3d but if I didn't have the money I would be fine with the 3600 for a couple more years probably
Not sure but I'd say go with a koorui 165hz 1ms gaming monitor think it's about 130$ I got 2 of them for my set up I had then about a year now and they work perfectly
I would honestly just sell the parts and build a new PC, AMD is good value when buying used parts, however that goes the other way, too. Nvidia GPU's are higher prices on the used market, so if you want to upgrade later or want the DLSS features, go for Nvidia.
I have the 5600g with a GTX 1650, beast of cpu!!! Of course that in the future the next upgrade is the gpu, the cpu? I think that processor could hold easly 7 to 8 years max (before you mention me about about the half cache loss compared to the non g version, considerate that until the 12th to 13th gen of intel procesors their cache never go up to 16 mb) so there is no concern in that part (of course , 32 mb of cache beats up 16 mb but meehh, i could survive)
Upgrade your GPU. You should upgrade to something like a 3060, 3060ti, 5700xt,6600xt. These are good GPUs which are quite cheap on the second hand market.
Another thing to consider is if you can only upgrade one, but you can upgrade hard, getting a bottlenecked GPU means you don’t need to upgrade it again when you can afford a new CPU. Otherwise you risk getting a new cpu and going oh crap now the GPU is bottlenecking it.
Question: i want to game, but i also want to future proof (as much as one reasonably can, anyway). I have a tight budget, a hard $600 max. Would it be better to build a budget gaming rig on an am4 platform with solid older pieces from aliexpress and fb marketplace, or should i make a brand new am5 build with a ryzen 5 8600g, 32gigs of ddr5 ram at 6k mhz, and play using integrated graphics til i can afford a higher end gpu with at least 12gb ram? For reference: the most graphic heavy game i want to play is Baldur's Gate 3. Outside of that, I'm predominantly a 2D gamer that usually plays survival horror, rpgs, tower defense and metroidvanias.
People are always so scared of bottlenecks. Just upgrade as far as you can with your money and then later upgrade what's bottlenecking you. It's not going to kill you when you use a R5 3600 paired with a 4070ti. At worst you won't max out your gpu, but often it'll still make a difference. I've seen people rock 3080's on that cpu and they said it was fine. It's not an art form to find the perfect pairing, just get what you want.
Hi ZTT, I discovered you recently and I had a question for my pc: I have an I5 11400 LGA1200, and no gpu (at the time I build the pc I played only minecraft). Which gpu should I buy? I have a really Low budget btw, like 150-170€, as I want to save up for a monitor. If not, my Friend wanted to sell me his 4050 for 300€, used since November. Is it a good deal? Thank you and love your content ❤❤❤
@@emperorpaulpatine7590 I'd mostly recommend getting a used gpu for the same price it will be most likely around 30% faster maybe try to find an rx 6800
i have each of these parts and lord do they run so well 100 frames on rust with high settings and 240 constant on Fortnite with performance mode on and most games like siege and valorant or cs i get well over 240
I’d upgrade both the ryzen 5 probably yields good frame rate averages but in anything newer than those 1% lows at gonna be notice able. And the is long in the tooth now so i’d grab anything from the 3060 and it’s AMD equivalent
Still not problem with 1440p cards, rtx 3070 and rx 6700 xt/rx 7700xt (but not in 1920x1080 fullhd, in this resolution maybe have a bit bottleneck) I use ryzen 5 3600 xt cpu with rx 6750 xt in 2560x1080, 60Hz (compare to ryzen 5 5600x the newer have lower thermal product for ~Double price )
I got a 7800xt with a 3600x atm and its pretty bad i am working towards a 7700x build just got a few months of saving to go first only got the 7800 for the new rig just wanted to get the most expensive parts first starting with that since i could use it as is rn
I have buyed a R5 2600 a long time ago(smh like 2020) and this thing still can beat any game in 1080p in combo with 3060. I have thinked about upgrading to R5 5600, but, i think i'm still good with this one. Just will save money for a better GPU. Btw, this CPU was originally on "H" chipset motherboard with RX 570 as GPU, with only 8 gigs of RAM at 2666 MHZ. Currently my whole PC got changed, from case to motherboard, to the best ofc. Kinda crazy to realize that its literally the second PC where it used. My full specs if someone interested: Motherboard: B450m DS3H v2 RAM: 16 gigs at 32000 mhz GPU: RTX 3060 by MSI, OC Ventus if i remembered it correctly. SSD: Samsung 980 PRO for 1 TB. PS: Deepcool for 650 watt.
@@zehanplayz1 It was a gift from my cousin. It was paired with a different processor earlier (which stopped working) so I had to severely downgrade. The 6650 isn't in my pc rn since the case has 0 airflow and can only house a 400 watt power supply
R5 3600 is the G.O.A.T
Intel pentium is the G.O.A.T
you mean G.H.O.S.T ?
R5 3600 is great but R5 5600 is the Goat
@@atharvaarmy9921 3600 is the OG G.O.A.T
nah r5 5600 is the G.O.A.T.
I stil remember when steve try the ryzen 5 3600 X 3080 10GB😂.
Was it bad? I skipped the 30 series
@@Crimsonfresno nope. The 3080 10Gb is Like one of the best value GPU from previous generation. If you want to buy it used search for the 12Gb model or just jump to 3080 ti
You missed out by skipping the 30 series
all depends on what gpu you were on at the time
R5 4500 beats the i3 10th gen😅
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Intel messed up on decreasing the size of the transistor for so long. Every budget to even the most high end Intel cpu is literally 10nm
@@Yeaittstrue, amd is on 5nm tech and intels on double that 💀
Ok, I have and 13. gen i3 and it cost … 89€, so 99$
New.
Love Watch market at US. Thats Sick. You cant get anything Like that here.
But Hightech? I so often Sell my MacBook Pro at the us. Because our at the Eu on graymarket so much less 😅
I got the 3600x paired with my MSI b450 gaming pro carbon AC and a 1660 super. It's the first PC I've built after having a crappy optiplex with a 1050ti. I'm very happy with my build
A 5 3600 should be able to take up to a 3080 level graphics card. Recommending a 5700xt to a 5 3600 is insane to me
I was literally just running a 3600 with a 3080. Just upgraded to a 7800x3d, but it was running wonderfully. I mainly upgraded because the board had no bluetooth and a usb type C port, and only 1 m.2 ssd slot. Performance wise, I was perfectly fine.
i mean that's subjective. i have a r5 5500 and rx 580 and I'm only upgrading the 580 to a 5700xt because no driver support and I want to do some xenia emulation. for example, a lot of people I know only play stuff like Minecraft so that setup is more than they would ever need.
Guys are so obsessed with the bottleneck thing, you'll have a bottlleneck for a while after you upgrade the gpu but once done yyou just upgrade the cpu and then you're set
Yea, but a CPU bottleneck is worse. The CPU being the bottleneck leads to stuttering, at least in my experience
Yeah, bottleneck is a big deal only for new build, when you want the best perf for your buck. So not overpaying for a GPU or CPU that you won't be able to use at full peak because of a bad pairing.
If you are planning a CPU upgrade in 1 or 2 years, a bottleneck GPU is desirable. It will be ready for your next upgrade. Just adjust your settings accordingly in the meantime.
@@marie-franceFortinNo yeah! I agree completely: for FIRST builds, no bottlenecks (or maybe even one small bottleneck if it's an insane value proposition 👀), but in this case if they upgraded to a 6700xt or higher, they're gonna swap the motherboard eventually and will have a higher range there! I'll admit it's a more budget conscious option and not perfectly ideal but still.
By adjusting for bottlenecks, you're basically restricting the system to... whatever the motherboard socket/platform has? Makes some sense, but not enough tbh.
@@socrguy123 you have to know what's a CPU job and what's a GPU job and ask more of the GPU and less of the CPU so that the CPU keep up. You have to go into the details of your game settings and not just set it to "low" or "high". I've been upgrading from one bottleneck type to the other without issues for years.
For example if you have a CPU bottleneck you want the resolution as high as possible so that each frame the CPU calculated takes as much time possible for the GPU to render, high texture but low poly, stuff like that. The goal is that, since the GPU is faster, it is not waiting for the CPU to catch up because it has more things to do.
@@marie-franceFortin yea, but that's either not always possible, or not always clear in the settings. Some gpus are just too much for certain cpus, and not every game has the same CPU/GPU demands. CSGO for example is pretty much always leaning more on CPU than GPU
My R5 3600 and RX 6600XT is still working flawlessly
How much did ur build cost?
mines with 5700xt cost 600 cad@@EpicAnimations_Official
I have a 4070Ti with my Ryzen 5 3600. I'm still pulling over 100 FPS on AAA games at 1440p with it. I'll replace it when I make the jump to AM5 in maybe 2 years.
Damnnnn didn’t think it had that much power
Is it overclocked?
@@cl4y I actually undervolted since my setup has great cooling... it ended up overclocking by itself and I never go over 84 C at full load
@@riverferguson2868 on 1440p it doesnt have to handle a lot of load as it is shifted to the gpu instead
So good to hear the ryzen 5 3600 still have some good years on it, I got one when building my computer and I've been living in constant fear that it will have to be my next upgrade
That CPU is a beast dude! Upgrade the GPU of course!
yes
Me rocking an old i7 6850k:
Been rocking an R5 3600 with a 3060 for a while now. Still going strong💪.
I would highly recommend thinking IF you want to make a CPU upgrade soon (aka, this year) as well or not.
If the answer is yes, I would even consider 7800xt(or nv 4070 non ti), as that's as far as best CPU for your board can take you.
then go back one step at the time, until you are happy with the price.
I would not go for 3060 as that's a bit too close gen to gen, so for good value for money, you might need to go +1 over.
3060 is about twice as fast as 1060, but 7800xt is 3x1060.
my recommendation is to not rush it, check loads on both cpu and gpu as you use it, MAYBE even you want 2x2TB ssd instead, as they are literally half price compared to 2020
For me as right now, I just updated my CPU abit but still on 32 DDR3 ram and 3 storage devices right now I need a better GPU, I been using a 1060 6 GB for awhile now but I can replace that at some point
Thats what i was about to say!
"Depending on the motherboard" aight I'ma take credit for that one
I have a 5-3600 and an rtx 3060, it’s a boss of a rig and I’ve had no issues but a power supply
Which power supply do you use?
I got a 3600 with a 6700XT runs fine
Same
I wanna try this but with a R5 1600af what do you think (?
@@CrossPoison315 the 1600af doesnt pair well with the 6700xt, pair it with a 1660 super or a 2060 super
@@rtx3060g6 I'm already using it with an 1660ti
If I get the 6700xt is obviously thinking of upgrading also the CPU as soon as I can
@@CrossPoison315 Are you gpu bottlenecked when you play games?
This is exactly my build. Thanks!!
I’m in the exact same spot rn and I’m trying to upgrade, this helped so much
I'd upgrade the GPU first. If you haven't upgraded from a 3600 yet, then your next CPU upgrade should be a full CPU/motherboard/ram upgrade. The time to upgrade the CPU on that socket has passed, unless you already had a GPU which your 3600 was holding back. But you don't have that, you actually need the GPU upgrade.
Solid call but I’d say a monitor is the best thing if you can hold out until q4/q1. New cards are coming.
I have a 5 3600 x 3060 combo and it works so well
id recommend going a even higher gpu then upgrading cpu later. if you go to a 3060 then you upgrade your cpu later your gpu will be your bottleneck. i always go by pick the gpu u think u need then go at least one higher. just my opinion.
I wish I had a higher budget when I had upgraded, but it was hard to beat a $300 Xeon workstation with a W-2135, 900W PSU, and a used GTX 1070 OC.
Hey dude, I just built my first ever pc build with a 5800x and a 1080, looking to upgrade my Gpu from the used market in the future. Do you have any good options with a performance boost which is noticeable?
Idk for me personally i always have a bottleneck because whenever i have the money to upgrade, its like a year later, so i do like to keep a little headroom, maybe like 10%. Idk maybe i do it so that my next upgrade feels better than it really is, but i think your gpu or cpu being better than the other is fine, but having a ryzen 7 3700x with a 1050ti was crazy while i was saving up for a 30 series when the 40s came out
GPU always first, until the CPU is fully utilized👍😉
Thanks! I have the exact same situation so I’ll do that after I get more storage (only 250g rn)
Running on a R5 3600 with a 3070Ti and they pair really good.
Also the rx 6700xt. But I don't know if they still have it in stock
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When I was looking a couple weeks ago I couldn't find any. Kept seeing them recommended just a couple months ago, but I'm guessing everywhere sold all their inventory around December/January.
Though tbh everything seems to have gone up quite a bit the last few months. LTT had a budget build with used parts last week that must've been shot in December, the GPU prices especially are just all out of whack right now.
What gpu and cpu combo would you recommend for a $1700 build? I am coming from a gtx 1650 and an i7-9700k laptop 💀
RX 7800XT and Ryzen 5 7600 (x), maybe even a 7900xt if you can fit it in the budget but definitely get a cpu on am5
1700 build, you have a lot of headroom, if it is possible go for 7900 GRE and any 7th gen X3D chip
7600x and 4070 super or 7900 GRE
If optimized right and you don't want all white, 7600x with either a 4080 super or 7900xtx is a doable
probably a 7800xt or a 4070 super paired with a Ryzen 5 7600x or intel i7 13900k if you go with a cheaper GPU
Wait up to 7600 XT??? I love the longevity of my build 🤩🤩
Also as someone has the 5700 xt and 3600 combo, i promise you it is an AMAZING combo! Granted a do have to tweak settings in the newer/newest games she still runs like a beast
By summer I will get my first pc. Already have a 170hz 1440p 27in monitor and have around 800-1200euros of budget.
My 1600af is just starting to feel a bit sluggish after 4 years
I have a Ryzen 9 3900x that's sitting on my shelf that was getting at the time at 120 fps in MW2 with RTX 3080 10gb. It's still a good cpu just wanted to upgrade, i ended up swapping to a 7800XT too
My brother just have the same PC with R5 3600, but he had a really thight budget back at the time and the only thing he could afford for his PC was a gt 1030, and he make fine for a while but he began to play more demanding games, and i told him that he could still upgrade his GPU, and i help him got an RX 7600 and i got him a second stick of RAM cuz he was on a single stick of 8 GB of RAM, so yeah he was struggling for sure but now he can play without problems but he still have to remplace his SSD for an NVME one, he still using a 2.5 Sata and is already like 5 years old so is kinda broken right now.
Thats why i love Ryzen CPU's so much. Having a Ryzen 7 5800X, when i upgraded my PC and thinking my GTX1080 8GB was totally enough. It served me for over 6 years now. This time i Upgraded to a RTX4070Super as i wanted to play more on 1440p Monitors. It works like bliss and some games even run easily on 120hz+ Even though there could be a potential 10% Bottleneck via the Bottleneck check in GPU heavy tasks. It works totally fine :)
I got a R5 5600x and a mobo in a bundle for $340 and I am super happy with it, but I’m not so thrilled with my 3060. A better GPU is pricey but I’m gonna have to do it
Hi Zach I have a 650 dollar gpu budget do you have any recommendations or should O save up more I have a 12400 and no other possible bottlenecks
About that, I have a I5 9400f and i have gtz 1660 super. I was thinking about the new graphic card and is rtx 3060 a good idea?
Listen Zach, we all use bottleneck calculator. We just don't admit we use bottleneck calculator
"Bottleneck" has got to be the PC buzzword of the year. You will always have a bottleneck in gaming.
everyone always forgets about the 6650xt which, at least in my experience in the usa, is often cheaper than the 6600xt and outperforms the 3060 and 5700xt, but if the 6600xt is cheaper its only 1 or 2 percent difference so going with it is fine
What are your best tips when building an aesthetic pc?
Yo i got bullied in school for showing love to you and your videos
My Brother still uses an i7 4790K and games just fine
3600 and a 5700tx literally what I am rocking
My RTX2080 is the bottleneck when i upgraded from a 3900X to a 5800X3D, the 1% is much improved however so it's smoother but fps hasn't changed a whole lot. I upgraded my Processor first because I still not decided what to do with the graphics card, a 7900 GRE or a 4070 super.
Might even wait for the next gen graphics cards as the present gen is not really impressing me, yet the 8GB VRAM is kind of hurting in games like moded Fallout 4 or moded mechwarrior 5 let alone new games and that 12GB VRAM on the 4070 makes me think that won't have much life left in it either. Yet the 7900 GRE would make more sense but then ai have a 1st gen Gsync monitor and will lose adaptive sync since it's not compatible with Freesync.
Damn walled eco systems.
I had the same results, I went from a r5 3600 to a new AM5 7800x3d and still paired with the same GPU RX 5700
I'm still playing on 1080p 144hz, there's games like wow or last epoch where it doubled or even tripled my FPS
Almost every other game didn't gain that much but it's noticably buttery smooth now with very stable 0.1-1% lows
You can put a 3060 ti with it and I would say probably nothing higher.
I have" ryzen 5 7600" Pc but in past i don't have budget to buy GPU
So i have 250$ so suggest me GPU please bro BTW big fan keep it up
Had 3600x and a 3060ti. Not bottoenecked so far. Did upgrade to the 5800x3d which is a really solid boost in performance but thats they way i thought would be the smartest.
I may be wrong but idk if your idea of upgrading is correct. What about when the user needs to upgrade his cpu? Does he pick the 3600x so he doesnt create "bottleneck"? I think you should do a bit of an overkill upgrade to be able to upgrade further for your next one.
id go with the rtx 4070 twin fan OC
I would call myself knowledgeable about computers what hardware gives you what performance but why not ask anyways as its fun to hear what people would recommend. I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700X and a Vega 64. What GPU would be a suitable replacement for my Vega?
The RX 6800 or 7700XT are great value and would be around the max i would use with that CPU
A neighbour gave me his pc a year ago, and I want to upgrade it. The specs are 6650xt and cpu AMD RYZEN 5 4500.
Also, these two have a big bottleneck.
How do they exactly have a huge bottleneck?
4500 with 6650XT don't have a huge bottleneck.
there's no "big" bottleneck they work perfectly fine
This processor is great: value, performance, compatible with PCIe 4.0 and 6 cores and up to 3200mhz RAM.
Great mix with B550 cheap mobo and gpu you want to carry on a future build.
Got a 4070 running with a r5 3600. It's bottle necking but running games smoothly at decently high fps. I'm changing it for a 5800x3d but if I didn't have the money I would be fine with the 3600 for a couple more years probably
hey Zack, give me a good 1300-1400 PC Build, without a case, since I have on already.
Hi Zach! Wonder if you could find a 144-165Hz HDR 1080p monitor which is available in India? I cant seem to find one after hours of searching.
Not sure but I'd say go with a koorui 165hz 1ms gaming monitor think it's about 130$ I got 2 of them for my set up I had then about a year now and they work perfectly
@@That_Stage2STI i was wanting to go for that monitor but sadly it's unavailable on Amazon India and i don't want high delivery charges
I would honestly just sell the parts and build a new PC, AMD is good value when buying used parts, however that goes the other way, too. Nvidia GPU's are higher prices on the used market, so if you want to upgrade later or want the DLSS features, go for Nvidia.
Tbh I'm looking for a R5 3600 to pair with my RX580 that I got for 30 bucks at a liquidation store, that way I'm set to up either one as time goes by.
Day 8 of asking Zach to talk about gaming laptops and their temperatures/fans control, especially the Lenovo legion 5 series
Zach, what gpu and cpu do you recommend for a 1000$ based gaming pc?
Nice vid
Good advice
I had a 3600 paired with a 6650 and I loved it
I have the 5600g with a GTX 1650, beast of cpu!!! Of course that in the future the next upgrade is the gpu, the cpu? I think that processor could hold easly 7 to 8 years max (before you mention me about about the half cache loss compared to the non g version, considerate that until the 12th to 13th gen of intel procesors their cache never go up to 16 mb) so there is no concern in that part (of course , 32 mb of cache beats up 16 mb but meehh, i could survive)
Upgrade your GPU. You should upgrade to something like a 3060, 3060ti, 5700xt,6600xt. These are good GPUs which are quite cheap on the second hand market.
@@ExplosiveGeek not in My country but thanks!! To put the Piggy wallet and sabe some money jajajajaja
Luv u bro
5700xt is still costing 350USD in Brazil
idk i have the sapphire 5700xt and started to have fps issues in newer games so changed for the 7800xt
What should I upgrade? My Rtx 3070 or my Ryzen 7 5800X?
Thank you for your awesome videos!
Another thing to consider is if you can only upgrade one, but you can upgrade hard, getting a bottlenecked GPU means you don’t need to upgrade it again when you can afford a new CPU. Otherwise you risk getting a new cpu and going oh crap now the GPU is bottlenecking it.
Bro's got a 3600? I have a R7 1700x paired with a RTX 2060s. Beat that!
Damn the background
I have i5 12400f and I brought rx 6700 xt to upgrade from gtx 1660 ti is it a good upgrade or not
You are jumping from like 1080p medium settings 60 fps to 1440p ultra settings 70-90 FPS so yes
I mean in AAA games
Yes that is a great upgrade
3600 is really good for its age and can even support a 3080
Got a 3600X. It's sick
what is the best pc specs for a 200$ budget
Question: i want to game, but i also want to future proof (as much as one reasonably can, anyway).
I have a tight budget, a hard $600 max.
Would it be better to build a budget gaming rig on an am4 platform with solid older pieces from aliexpress and fb marketplace, or should i make a brand new am5 build with a ryzen 5 8600g, 32gigs of ddr5 ram at 6k mhz, and play using integrated graphics til i can afford a higher end gpu with at least 12gb ram?
For reference: the most graphic heavy game i want to play is Baldur's Gate 3. Outside of that, I'm predominantly a 2D gamer that usually plays survival horror, rpgs, tower defense and metroidvanias.
People are always so scared of bottlenecks. Just upgrade as far as you can with your money and then later upgrade what's bottlenecking you. It's not going to kill you when you use a R5 3600 paired with a 4070ti. At worst you won't max out your gpu, but often it'll still make a difference. I've seen people rock 3080's on that cpu and they said it was fine. It's not an art form to find the perfect pairing, just get what you want.
I have a 2600 with a 4070 and it’s not a great experience at all .. can barely run Fortnite at low settings lol
Im still running a ryzen 1700 and rtx 2070 super, runs fine but cs2 doesnt like my old ass cpu for some reason, although im running it at 2560x1440p
For productive work like rendering and 3d. What gpu do you recommend? I like AMD but everyone says it sucks for productivity
Exactly what I will recommend
Hey ztt what should I upgrade first, my intel 3310 or my RTX 5000 QUADRO
Hi ZTT, I discovered you recently and I had a question for my pc: I have an I5 11400 LGA1200, and no gpu (at the time I build the pc I played only minecraft). Which gpu should I buy? I have a really Low budget btw, like 150-170€, as I want to save up for a monitor. If not, my Friend wanted to sell me his 4050 for 300€, used since November. Is it a good deal?
Thank you and love your content ❤❤❤
4050 doesn't exist there is only a laptop version
@@dumbrobot6049 4060 my bad thx bro
@@emperorpaulpatine7590 I'd mostly recommend getting a used gpu for the same price it will be most likely around 30% faster maybe try to find an rx 6800
@@emperorpaulpatine7590 Because in my country, a used rx 6800 can be found for cheaper than a brand new 4060
Any graphics card can bottleneck that chip (ryzen 3600) depends. Maybe I want to do raytracing in 4k :P
Hi, I want to buy a gaming laptop because I don't have space for a gaming pc. Is Asus Rog Strix G16 16 a good choice for a budget around 2500 cad?
Rx 6700xt pure performance pc. Who wants, like the comment!
i have each of these parts and lord do they run so well 100 frames on rust with high settings and 240 constant on Fortnite with performance mode on and most games like siege and valorant or cs i get well over 240
“120-140” listings price 145 plus tax and shipping😂
I’d upgrade both the ryzen 5 probably yields good frame rate averages but in anything newer than those 1% lows at gonna be notice able. And the is long in the tooth now so i’d grab anything from the 3060 and it’s AMD equivalent
Still not problem with 1440p cards, rtx 3070 and rx 6700 xt/rx 7700xt (but not in 1920x1080 fullhd, in this resolution maybe have a bit bottleneck)
I use ryzen 5 3600 xt cpu with rx 6750 xt in 2560x1080, 60Hz
(compare to ryzen 5 5600x the newer have lower thermal product for ~Double price )
Meanwhile me who is still on FM2+ 😂😂
How do you set up being able to see all the stats of computer in real time 😅
I have GTX1650 with R5 2600 what should i apgrade
I got a 7800xt with a 3600x atm and its pretty bad i am working towards a 7700x build just got a few months of saving to go first only got the 7800 for the new rig just wanted to get the most expensive parts first starting with that since i could use it as is rn
Ztt for no reason in a random speach:
I recommend Rx 5700xt 🙃
(That gpu is so good tho)
I have buyed a R5 2600 a long time ago(smh like 2020) and this thing still can beat any game in 1080p in combo with 3060.
I have thinked about upgrading to R5 5600, but, i think i'm still good with this one. Just will save money for a better GPU.
Btw, this CPU was originally on "H" chipset motherboard with RX 570 as GPU, with only 8 gigs of RAM at 2666 MHZ.
Currently my whole PC got changed, from case to motherboard, to the best ofc. Kinda crazy to realize that its literally the second PC where it used.
My full specs if someone interested:
Motherboard: B450m DS3H v2
RAM: 16 gigs at 32000 mhz
GPU: RTX 3060 by MSI, OC Ventus if i remembered it correctly.
SSD: Samsung 980 PRO for 1 TB.
PS: Deepcool for 650 watt.
I run a r5 3600 with a rtx 3600. still works fine with most modern games.. on 1080p ^^
I would have upgraded to 5800x with the 6700xt i found on used market
Ive got a rx 6650 xt, funny thing is I'm stuck with a i3 3220 so ive been saving up to buy the 3600, its a great processor!
I3 with a f**king 6650? You must be crazy bro
@@zehanplayz1 It was a gift from my cousin. It was paired with a different processor earlier (which stopped working) so I had to severely downgrade.
The 6650 isn't in my pc rn since the case has 0 airflow and can only house a 400 watt power supply
CPUs are always in stocks, so GPU usually gets upgraded first. Now, to watch the content.