That was really quite exciting as well as informative, Emanuel. The high level of realism that the PMDG model demonstrates can only be truly appreciated by someone with your level of experience.
Sorry for the resolution once again, UA-cam showed the video as fully processed. It should become HD soon. Next time I will crosscheck it before running out of my house to catch my real flight 😂
Another great video! Interesting what you mention about the elevator trimming going on during the approach. That explains the out of trim condition I was experiencing when taking over manually during practice. I knew there had to be a reason and i had been using dual command. It’s pretty cool how so much has been included in this sim aircraft.
For a moment there, I felt nervous not seeing the runway lights as the plane approached the runway!😅 Thank you for this great tutorial, my go to for learning PMDGs B737s
You are churning out incredible videos! I love your channel! I'd also love to have a video going over autopilot logic/modes in detail. Especially for high-workload times like the approach, I want to better understand what the autopilot is "thinking." Even if it's a series on individual modes (like on video solely on N1 mode, etc.) That would be sweet!
@@A330Driver Fabtastic. There's a channel I follow for FlyByWire A32NX tutorials that does videos on individual small systems and scenarios - like, "when would we land Flaps 3 instead of Flaps Full?" Or an entire 30 minute video on the Packs lol. I love that stuff, it's easily digestible and gives me a much better understanding of the aircraft in my simulator than just takeoff, landing, and flight tutorials.
Wow... Autoland always freaks me out a bit. I'm a control freak so letting the computer take over and land is very stressful for me. I always want to disconnect the autopilot and fly the ILS manually. You made it look very easy. I guess it's stressing at first until you do it a bunch of times so it begins to feel more natural because there is so much going on in such a short time. Nicely done Captain.
Same for us in real life, it's nicer to have direct controls than having to monitor the computer, basically waiting for it to mess up (which it then never does, at least not yet in my career).
You got the indications right there on the ILS, the ND Approach mode really mainly serves to declutter the display. Most useful during manual flight but also not needed and rarely used there.
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I learned how to do autolandings on the 787, so I was very confused when I did a cat III in the 737-900 and didn't see "LAND 3" appear, but had the plane flare and come down for one of the gentlest landings I've experienced. I could have sworn I did something wrong due to "SINGLE CH" being the only text that appeared lol.
Another great video, had the autopilot disconnect on me at 50ft, couldn’t recall what the winds were but like you said, it had so much noise up trim that, the only option is to fly the missed approach
Thank you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge in these very valuable videos. I almost feel like I could be a copilot...In another 5 years...
Wanted to say thank you for all your videos! Haven’t made it through them all yet - but yesterday had the most perfect automated flight where everything worked! Flight plan discontinuities easy to fix - vnav worked flawlessly and put me in a great stable approach state - so could focus on setup and not rushing the descent ! Was able to control vref speed using auto throttle and and it landed me perfectly! With out autopilot disconnecting on me as it has in past! Now on to the “go around video”!! One quick question where is my Togo button? :) thank you again for everything!
All very good but the PMDG aircraft are very sensitive. Recently on a flight from KDAL to KLGA, after setting the aircraft up meticulously, after an hour or so got a low fuel warning. The fuel was calculated and loaded before flight. So after the low fuel warning I loaded a little more fuel in flight ( a no-no of course). Every warning light and system started to flash and would not clear, but it continued to fly the route. At the time decent was required it was inop. It seems like the smallest out of sequence change and the aircraft is toast.
I appreciate these tutorials. Unfortunately for me autoland rarely works. Before anyone pops off, I do hand fly the aircraft in on approaches from 3 - 5 miles out. However, I thought it would be cool to check out the autoland feature. I'm finding out it's not so cool. To test autoland out I've flown the same flight plan 3 times, Wichita, KS to Denver Intl using the NIIXX3 STAR and 34R approach, and 1 out of 3 times the 2nd autopilot engaged. The other two times one CMD light goes out, and the other comes on. Keep in mind this is arming APP mode before intercepting the localizer and attempting to engage the second autopilot, exactly as your tutorial explains. Both Nav radios set to same ILS frequency and active, and course set correctly for localizer on both sides. With those poor results I've been trying to use autoland, just to see if I'm having the same issues while doing flights for my virtual airline. I am. Autoland only works about a third of the time for me. Not sure if this is a me thing or if this feature is buggy but I'm doing the steps EXACTLY as you, and others have described.
Which fmc shows when you arm approach? Make sure it shows LOC and GS, not FAC and GP. Tip fit shows the latter then you are probably too far out when you arm approach. You need stable reception of the loc and gs before arming app mode.
@@A330Driver Verified everything that you said should be happening is happening. I went through my settings and had autoland in Fail Operational mode. I switched to Fail Passive mode, flew the same route mentioned above twice, and everything is working exactly as it should. Figure that one out :-) Thanks for your response and taking the time to do all these tutorials. You have no idea how much these videos really help the average simmer.
What's the etiquette on lowering flaps as soon as you are below the maximum speed vs. waiting until much slower? I noticed on this approach you get quite slow before you started extending them at all. And where does the choice to extend the gear add in to that?
I don't see any problems with extending the flaps once you're below thier max speeds for the sim. When I fly the 737 in MSFS I usually configure at 10nm just because I'm not as confident with it, so I tend to set flaps as the speed passes thier max. I also set gear at no later than 5nm, but no greater than 10 just because that's how I've learned from MSFS and the tutorials with IRL pilots as an average, this is also why my configure habits are the way they are. When you set gear you'll have more drag so you'll get slightly slower if that helps you determine where that fits into all this.
So i tried that Autoland and it didn't work, when i pressed approach and than the other CMD for the 2nd autopilot button it would just turn off the first button for autopilot that was on to off as if it was just switching to autopilot B instead of A , so i couldn't get both autopilot A and B to stay on what is the problem here?? and yes i was using the PMDG BBJ
You need to make sure you are on the localiser and glide slope. You should see a dotted line on the instrument with the waypoints and purple lines. Once you are on that dotted line, you should see a purple diamond on the bottom of the instrument with the altitude. Once you see that, press the VorLoc button. Once you are established on the localiser, wait untill you see the glideslope indicator and THEN press approach
I wish there vere better rain effects (wiping effect) on the windows. Wanna see water collect at the side of the wiper and being flushed away...you know what I mean.. =) Great tutorial!! =)
Thank you for sharing. Were you using hardware to adjust the MCP SPEED dial? I could see it moving but no cursor and wondered how in MCP SPEED mode, your speed was adjusting?
Thank you for this! I had inadvertently realized it would take you to the ground during a low visibility landing such as you had ! And wow put me down straight and better landing I have ever done for a jetliner lol! I realize tho if u are going to take control sooner be careful not to pitch up anymore than needed as you state the autoland comes in already with a slight nose up pitch to prep for an go around and u can sink quickly!! One question how do u engage quickly the go around that is covered by the 2nd autopilot? Do u switch off cmd A? Then put manually put in speed and gear and flaps up? Thank you kindly!!!
Nice landing... no mention of FMC settings though... if not done right, no autolanding... I am still trying to get it to work, gleaning what I can from Google.
@@A330Driver I hadn't set the approach ref... hoping that's it, also the runway length and slope on the HGS on the pedestal, hoping this sorts it, I'm about to find out :)
I was under the impression that the planes with Auto-Land systems, prepared and configured EVYERTHING! I mean, the speed, the Slats, the flaps, the gear, the lights, you know, "everything to do with landing". It seems to me that if the Auto-Land system isn't configuring anything but the alignment and glide slope, then why not just use a standard ILS approach (and just one AP system setup)? Granted, a standard ILS system cuts out at about 200 feet AGL and then the pilot needs to take it from there, but really, at that point, the plane is committed to touch down anyway. The touch down is just a matter of maintaining the present decent rate and flaring. The pilot may have to make some adjustments for ground effect, but that's all part of the landing that is expected. I'm just surprised that the Auto-Land required all those 'hands-on transactions', most of which are also typically required in a standard ILS. But then, I'm not 100% sure that I understood much of what you said because, (among other things), I'm not familiar with the plane and didn't know where some of the instruments you mentioned were located. In my attempt to find them and still keep up with you, I may have missed details that you mentioned, (in fact, I'm sure I did), and so, it's possible that you were not manually handling the flap, slats, & gear adjustments, though it seemed that you were. But I did see you adjusting the speed manually, as opposed to setting some sort of "Min/Max" Landing speed instrument setting (something that I would have expected in an Auto-Land aircraft instrumentation). Anyway, the tutorial wasn't all that clear to me, but that doesn't mean it wasn't clear to anyone else. I'm just disappointed that it wasn't near as automated as I thought. FWIW, Thanks, Rich
Super video. Tho I’ve learned on another sim how to auto land, I still prefer to hand fly the last 1,000. Needless to say, I did learn more from you. One problem I’m having is with the landing gear. After positive rate, I flip the gear up but the plane still has the gear out when I do an exterior look. Also, I can’t get it in the off position despite doing the unlocking two second click. Then, when I’m set to land, the gear won’t come out when commanded. When it finally decides to give me three green, only two show and the nose gear is not extended. After flipping the gear lever several times fast, it finally does making my landing a hair raising experience lol! Maybe I have a buggy file or is it me? Anyway, thanks again for your work (and help this time around!). Cheers
I can't seem to get it to work, I've got both nav radios tuned to the ILS and I arm the VOR/LOC and APP buttons on the MCP, but as soon as I try to engage the CMD B, CMD A turns off and stays in single channel mode.
Why are there some airport runways' ILS that won't engage both sutopilots for autoland? I set both Nav radios to the ILS frequency and synchronise both MCP courses using the ILS plates provided through my full Navigraph subscription. However, at some airports, if I engage both autopilots one turns itself off. If I engage the other, the other one turns off. This makes an autoland impossible. Is this to do with the runway's ILS category limitation or to do with a PMDG FMC specific setting? Having said that, the same aircraft with the same exact settings will maintain both autopilots engaged at a different airport, therefore, to me, this seems to have something to do with the runway ILS in question rather than my FMC autoland setting. For example, a full autoland will be accomplished at, say, EKCH ILS rwy 22L but not at (to memory) TFFR ILS "Y" 12 because one of the autopilots will always extinguish no matter what I do. I also don't fully understand what "FAIL PASS" (or vice versa) means. I have every one of my PMDG aircraft FMC setting to ""FAIL PASS" which allows autoland at most, but not all, airport ILS equipped runways regardless of their CAT I, II or III designation per the charts. FYI, I'm a retired USNavy Aviator qualified in T28, T45 Goshawk, A4, A6, EA6, A7, F4 and F14. I retired shortly before the F/A 18 Hornet/Super Hornets replaced much of the Navy's older aircraft fleet. The majority of my hours were flown in the A6, EA6 and A7. I was fortunate enough to fly the TF/A 18 Hornet (with instructor in the rear) a few times before I retired and wish I were just 5 years younger because flying that aircraft was such an exhilarating experience - I can only dream of what flying the Super Hornet would have been like. Such is life! Anyway, could you kindly explain why I'm experiencing this autoland situation? Thanks in advance 👍
About the DME mismatch for this particular approach. Maybe the difference is due to the DME antenna being placed at the end of the runway…? Just thinking.
No, it's simply a bug with MSFS. The DMEs are simply incorrectly placed at many airports. Unfortunate, but that's how the sim is. The appraoch chart would tell you if the DME would not read zero over the threshold.
@737NGDriver | A330 Driver For the autoland, did you retard the thrust levers or does the auto throttle take care of that? Also, what is the latest point by which the auto pilot and the auto throttle should be disconnected?
Thanks for sharing! One issue I’m having is I can’t get both autopilots to engage (when I select B with A engaged it’ll toggle and vice versa). This is in approach mode; any suggestions?
@@A330Driver Why does it require both? I learned that back on the 737 for FSX but I never really thought about why both course and NAVs need to be set...or both APs need to be on for that matter. In case one fails it doesn't trust the other one?
Dumb question, so you have to switch your knob from baro to radio for autoland to work? Where in the sim brief, would I see what the radio number to choose?
Autoland works independent of the minimum setting, however for CAT II and III approaches (which is where autolands are usually done) a radio minimums is used by law.
How to configure 737 to start directly at final. When i try, there is no oil pressure, obviously and hence no engine power. Even when i refill the fuel, oil etc, nothing. Any help here?
Save a flight in final, then load that flight. The engines might need some seconds to stabilize after loading the flight due to the custom engine model but overall it should work quite fine. That's exactly the method I used to create all these videos.
Hi can I have a question? I bought 737-800 and I’m using airbus tca setup. After landing when i turn reverse thrust to full I can see on engine thrust display that its on 110 and the aircraft stop like in few seconds.😢 Do somebody know what to do?
Hello there! I noticed the speed adjusted automatically when u put in flaps - is that something you setup in the Approach page in the FMC? Thank you !! I think I’ve been configuring too soon and the plane is struggling to hold that pitch - seems everything can happen within 7 miles of runway ! Thanks !
This is a late question but I must be missing something. Everytime I enable the 2nd AP on ILS approach, it automatically disables itse'f 2 secs later. I ensure I was on Fail Op and the backup instrumentation was digital. Why does it disable itself?
@@A330Driver I set up everything as instructed in the video. Both NAV frequencies set. Both Courses set. FMC approach page with Vrefs set. APP armed and established on the localizer and glideslope. I press AP B and both are lit for a moment but then AP A extinguishes and B assumes command. I press AP A again and both lit but then B extinguishes and A assumes control. I can't keep both lit. So I am missing something coming into KSJC on 30L. Something is not showing in your video that I am missing or it went over my head.
Thanks very much for all your great 737 videos, it's highly appreciated! One question though, after an ILS or Autopilot landing, at what moment exactly do you switch off the AP and AT? Directly after touchdown? If I understand it right, the auto throttle is not needed until touchdown, is that correct?
Hello. Thanks for your work. I am expacting / missing a LAND 3 message on the pfd. I think I got that in P3d / Fsx I also see that in other youtube video's. What the story with this? Ty.
Adjusted my cockpit so that i have the reset.recall button. Tested again and got my Land 3 indication. And as you mentioned the ac followed centerline after landing. Great! Next test combined with the hud and closing with adding weather. :-)
Why does the glideslope drift away upwards when you cross the threshold and trigger a glideslope warning? That doesn't happen in real life does it? I have the same issue when landing manually. I think I'm on profile but then I get the warning. I never had this in other sims.
No, as long as the operating minimums are adhered to operations will continue. Sure enough there will be delays, but not because they'd shut the airport down, but simply because in such bad visibility conditions there needs to be greater distances between aircraft and thus the maximum amount of traffic an airport can handle will be decreased.
… and never regretted not having bought that “HIGHLY IMMERSIVE” 21:9 one ?? 🤪 I’m currently trying to decide. Got the impression from your videos that 16:9 allows you a better view of the instruments of an airliner. For just vfr cruising in a Piper over an Africa savanna 16:9 might be fine..
Hello there again ! Thanks for all the great content - one question - during todays flight for some reason I could not get both autopilot cmd A and cmd b to stay on simultaneously- when I turn on cmd b it would disengage cmd a and vice versa - I had both flight directors on and.Both Navs tuned as well… anything that would cause this? Maybe model 737 of livery I selected so panel was different from before when it worked for me ? Thank you!!
@@A330Driver sorry when I clicked on cmd b during final they both stayed on! So that’s good…But then about 300 out ft they both disconnected- wonder if it didn’t like my airspeed it would automatically disconnect autopilot? Thanks !
Hi Emmanuel! Excellent videos. I found just this video out of focus throughout. No problems with other videos. Is this your recording problem or my PC?
It's UA-cam that took too long to process the video. It showed me it was finished so I released it before I went to work. Just check back in a few hours and it should be in HD.
Another superb video! Thank you! I was doing a flight today and got a hydraulic overheat indication on the overhead. Everything looked normal and so I landed at my destination and then when the plane was in the turnaround phase the indication stopped. Should I have diverted
You should have done the hydraulic overheat non normal checklist which would have given you futher instruction. If a failure makes a diversion necessary the QRH will tell you. The normal course of action, unless the situation demands otherwise, is to continue to the destination.
I'm still having a hard time figuring out how to make the plane follow the programmed route. I turn on autopilot and LNAV VNAV but it still just flies in a straight line and never follows the course programmed in the FMC
@@A330Driver No but I will. For whatever reason I've really been struggling with this plane. Does this work at all with routing in the flight sim route planner? Or do you need to do everything in the FMC and fly VFR?
@@sgtstedanko7186 You need to program the route in the FMC. The MSFS flight planner is unreliable and does not produce valid routes. However, if you enter a route from the MSFS planner into the FMC the airplane should still be able to follow it.
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can never get auto land to engage. When I switch on the second auto pilot all it does is switch and the first auto pilot goes out. I'm ready to give up on it.
@@A330Driver Yes my ILS is armed, I fly it to the runway. I lock onto the ILS no problem and fly the LOC and GS to the runway. The APP works fine. So I'm not sure what you mean when you say my ILS is not armed. I can fly the ILS, I just can't arm both auto pilots to use the auto land. I must be missing something, everything else on auto pilot works fine. I can fly without it but the feature is there so it would be nice to be able to use it. P.S. Your videos are great and have taught me a lot. The only thing I couldn't get to work like you explained was the auto land.
@@A330Driver I guess my follow up question would be would the autopilot allow a dangerous rate of decent to “catch up” to the glide slope or would there just come a point where the computer would give up and you have to fly the approach again?
@@A330Driver is the nav 1 used only by CMD1 and nav2 used only by CMD2? because in CAT III ur supposed to turn on both autopilots so I was wandering if they get the date from the same nav system or separate?
@@A330Driver it was, I find it happens a lot more with the asobo handcrafted airports like KLAX than with the generic ones. Payware scenery has been fine as far as my testing goes.
@@ZholikOW yeah, the accuracy of those "handcrafted" airports can nicely be seen in Frankfurts taxilines... they look like someone was totally drunk when drawing them. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is the case with the approach procedures.
It shows you that only a single autopilot is currently controlling the airplane. It changes to CMD when the pitch monitor confidence test is completed and the second autopilot engages.
@@A330Driver the visibility and ceiling, what did you put in the sim to get the solid IFR to the ground. I have a hard time getting it that soupy, and when I do it changes so rapidly I can’t be sure it’ll be that way when I cross the threshold. Thank you BTW for all your great info and videos!
@@A330Driver I only had the ils tuned on the captain side. Also my nose steering isn’t animated and neither is the rudder pedals. Is that my install or on pmdgs side
Yeah MSFS is a limited simulator, it's a toy, it's for entertainment NOT simulator, it's not a Full Certified Simulator, like P3D, where P3D is a licensed full rated simulator you can actually log Simulator Hours On that and it would be accepted by the FAA as real Simulator hours, Unlike MSFS, you can not, the FAA would laugh at you if you.. If you really want the True Experience of PMDG aircraft, get it for PD3 V6 you will notice 100% difference in Realism.. Besides MSFS has had nothing but BUGS from day one , now over 4 years later they still have some of the same BUGS as they did in Day one, and when they fix a Bug 2 or 3 more pops up from the fix LOL Also their Support Forums is a JOKE.. they got Un-professional moderators who ban people who just simply question the moderators, and label the BAN reason as too Combative.. it's all corrupt there.. P3D is way better...
@@A330Driver i have P3D v4 and it worked better than MSFS.. on their website it does say they are licensed as a Valid Simulator and can be used to log in Actual Simulator Time. This is for Students according to them any way.
Had to go to work on a rather tight schedule, youtube told me the video finished processing and so I released it. Didn't check if it actually finished beforehand. I should have done though... then I would have seen that it was actually not finished. Sorry.
Theres something wrong in your audio track. The words are extremely sharp with buzzsaw sounds in every word. I am sorry that I am not able to watch any of your videos.
That was really quite exciting as well as informative, Emanuel. The high level of realism that the PMDG model demonstrates can only be truly appreciated by someone with your level of experience.
Sorry for the resolution once again, UA-cam showed the video as fully processed. It should become HD soon.
Next time I will crosscheck it before running out of my house to catch my real flight 😂
Another great video! Interesting what you mention about the elevator trimming going on during the approach. That explains the out of trim condition I was experiencing when taking over manually during practice. I knew there had to be a reason and i had been using dual command. It’s pretty cool how so much has been included in this sim aircraft.
For a moment there, I felt nervous not seeing the runway lights as the plane approached the runway!😅
Thank you for this great tutorial, my go to for learning PMDGs B737s
You are churning out incredible videos! I love your channel! I'd also love to have a video going over autopilot logic/modes in detail. Especially for high-workload times like the approach, I want to better understand what the autopilot is "thinking." Even if it's a series on individual modes (like on video solely on N1 mode, etc.) That would be sweet!
That's actually a very good idea, I added it to my list for future videos.
@@A330Driver Fabtastic. There's a channel I follow for FlyByWire A32NX tutorials that does videos on individual small systems and scenarios - like, "when would we land Flaps 3 instead of Flaps Full?" Or an entire 30 minute video on the Packs lol. I love that stuff, it's easily digestible and gives me a much better understanding of the aircraft in my simulator than just takeoff, landing, and flight tutorials.
@@asagraf7276 what's the channel?
Wow... Autoland always freaks me out a bit. I'm a control freak so letting the computer take over and land is very stressful for me. I always want to disconnect the autopilot and fly the ILS manually. You made it look very easy. I guess it's stressing at first until you do it a bunch of times so it begins to feel more natural because there is so much going on in such a short time. Nicely done Captain.
Same for us in real life, it's nicer to have direct controls than having to monitor the computer, basically waiting for it to mess up (which it then never does, at least not yet in my career).
What I learned was not having to switch the ND from Map to the Approach interesting thanks for the info on difference in Auto land modes.
You got the indications right there on the ILS, the ND Approach mode really mainly serves to declutter the display. Most useful during manual flight but also not needed and rarely used there.
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I learned how to do autolandings on the 787, so I was very confused when I did a cat III in the 737-900 and didn't see "LAND 3" appear, but had the plane flare and come down for one of the gentlest landings I've experienced. I could have sworn I did something wrong due to "SINGLE CH" being the only text that appeared lol.
Thank you sir! Your ears must have been burning because I was searching for this topic this morning :)
Another great video, had the autopilot disconnect on me at 50ft, couldn’t recall what the winds were but like you said, it had so much noise up trim that, the only option is to fly the missed approach
Thank you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge in these very valuable videos. I almost feel like I could be a copilot...In another 5 years...
What a well documented video, huge thanks for these out on you tube.
Glad you like them!
I am pleased to confirm that my previously mentioned issues of the engine sound at low N1 speeds, seems only to be in your videos.
Sweet landing, thanks for the tips.
Wanted to say thank you for all your videos! Haven’t made it through them all yet - but yesterday had the most perfect automated flight where everything worked! Flight plan discontinuities easy to fix - vnav worked flawlessly and put me in a great stable approach state - so could focus on setup and not rushing the descent ! Was able to control vref speed using auto throttle and and it landed me perfectly! With out autopilot disconnecting on me as it has in past! Now on to the “go around video”!! One quick question where is my Togo button? :) thank you again for everything!
Great tutorial! Thank you for sharing your experience! Safe flying!
All very good but the PMDG aircraft are very sensitive. Recently on a flight from KDAL to KLGA, after setting the aircraft up meticulously, after an hour or so got a low fuel warning. The fuel was calculated and loaded before flight. So after the low fuel warning I loaded a little more fuel in flight ( a no-no of course). Every warning light and system started to flash and would not clear, but it continued to fly the route. At the time decent was required it was inop. It seems like the smallest out of sequence change and the aircraft is toast.
Good work. Very fast corrections. Wonderful!
Thank you very much.
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I appreciate these tutorials. Unfortunately for me autoland rarely works. Before anyone pops off, I do hand fly the aircraft in on approaches from 3 - 5 miles out. However, I thought it would be cool to check out the autoland feature. I'm finding out it's not so cool. To test autoland out I've flown the same flight plan 3 times, Wichita, KS to Denver Intl using the NIIXX3 STAR and 34R approach, and 1 out of 3 times the 2nd autopilot engaged. The other two times one CMD light goes out, and the other comes on. Keep in mind this is arming APP mode before intercepting the localizer and attempting to engage the second autopilot, exactly as your tutorial explains. Both Nav radios set to same ILS frequency and active, and course set correctly for localizer on both sides.
With those poor results I've been trying to use autoland, just to see if I'm having the same issues while doing flights for my virtual airline. I am. Autoland only works about a third of the time for me.
Not sure if this is a me thing or if this feature is buggy but I'm doing the steps EXACTLY as you, and others have described.
Which fmc shows when you arm approach? Make sure it shows LOC and GS, not FAC and GP.
Tip fit shows the latter then you are probably too far out when you arm approach.
You need stable reception of the loc and gs before arming app mode.
@@A330Driver Verified everything that you said should be happening is happening. I went through my settings and had autoland in Fail Operational mode. I switched to Fail Passive mode, flew the same route mentioned above twice, and everything is working exactly as it should. Figure that one out :-) Thanks for your response and taking the time to do all these tutorials. You have no idea how much these videos really help the average simmer.
Great demonstration and tutorial. Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge.
Many thank's again , I'll try thank's to your video and all your very good explanations
What's the etiquette on lowering flaps as soon as you are below the maximum speed vs. waiting until much slower? I noticed on this approach you get quite slow before you started extending them at all. And where does the choice to extend the gear add in to that?
I don't see any problems with extending the flaps once you're below thier max speeds for the sim. When I fly the 737 in MSFS I usually configure at 10nm just because I'm not as confident with it, so I tend to set flaps as the speed passes thier max. I also set gear at no later than 5nm, but no greater than 10 just because that's how I've learned from MSFS and the tutorials with IRL pilots as an average, this is also why my configure habits are the way they are.
When you set gear you'll have more drag so you'll get slightly slower if that helps you determine where that fits into all this.
Incredible content, glad we finally have such high-level software for MSFS. Any plans for a classic circle to land at a Greek island? 👍🏽
yep, definitely coming!
So i tried that Autoland and it didn't work, when i pressed approach and than the other CMD for the 2nd autopilot button it would just turn off the first button for autopilot that was on to off as if it was just switching to autopilot B instead of A , so i couldn't get both autopilot A and B to stay on what is the problem here?? and yes i was using the PMDG BBJ
You need to make sure you are on the localiser and glide slope. You should see a dotted line on the instrument with the waypoints and purple lines. Once you are on that dotted line, you should see a purple diamond on the bottom of the instrument with the altitude. Once you see that, press the VorLoc button. Once you are established on the localiser, wait untill you see the glideslope indicator and THEN press approach
I wish there vere better rain effects (wiping effect) on the windows. Wanna see water collect at the side of the wiper and being flushed away...you know what I mean.. =) Great tutorial!! =)
Thank you for sharing. Were you using hardware to adjust the MCP SPEED dial? I could see it moving but no cursor and wondered how in MCP SPEED mode, your speed was adjusting?
Thank you Emmanuel. One question : is autoland also available on Rnav/Lnav type approaches ? Thank you. Jean-michel, France
This guy is amaizing!!
Thank you for this! I had inadvertently realized it would take you to the ground during a low visibility landing such as you had ! And wow put me down straight and better landing I have ever done for a jetliner lol! I realize tho if u are going to take control sooner be careful not to pitch up anymore than needed as you state the autoland comes in already with a slight nose up pitch to prep for an go around and u can sink quickly!! One question how do u engage quickly the go around that is covered by the 2nd autopilot? Do u switch off cmd A? Then put manually put in speed and gear and flaps up? Thank you kindly!!!
Hi and thank you for your kind words:
For the dual channel go around simply press the TOGA button. The AP is going to do everything else by its own.
Nice landing... no mention of FMC settings though... if not done right, no autolanding... I am still trying to get it to work, gleaning what I can from Google.
You don't need any FMC settings for an autoland.
The autoland is a pure raw data mode.
@@A330Driver I hadn't set the approach ref... hoping that's it, also the runway length and slope on the HGS on the pedestal, hoping this sorts it, I'm about to find out :)
When I click the second Autopilot it turns off automatically after a few seconds. what might I be doing wrong?
I was under the impression that the planes with Auto-Land systems, prepared and configured EVYERTHING! I mean, the speed, the Slats, the flaps, the gear, the lights, you know, "everything to do with landing". It seems to me that if the Auto-Land system isn't configuring anything but the alignment and glide slope, then why not just use a standard ILS approach (and just one AP system setup)?
Granted, a standard ILS system cuts out at about 200 feet AGL and then the pilot needs to take it from there, but really, at that point, the plane is committed to touch down anyway. The touch down is just a matter of maintaining the present decent rate and flaring. The pilot may have to make some adjustments for ground effect, but that's all part of the landing that is expected.
I'm just surprised that the Auto-Land required all those 'hands-on transactions', most of which are also typically required in a standard ILS. But then, I'm not 100% sure that I understood much of what you said because, (among other things), I'm not familiar with the plane and didn't know where some of the instruments you mentioned were located.
In my attempt to find them and still keep up with you, I may have missed details that you mentioned, (in fact, I'm sure I did), and so, it's possible that you were not manually handling the flap, slats, & gear adjustments, though it seemed that you were.
But I did see you adjusting the speed manually, as opposed to setting some sort of "Min/Max" Landing speed instrument setting (something that I would have expected in an Auto-Land aircraft instrumentation). Anyway, the tutorial wasn't all that clear to me, but that doesn't mean it wasn't clear to anyone else. I'm just disappointed that it wasn't near as automated as I thought.
FWIW,
Thanks,
Rich
Super video. Tho I’ve learned on another sim how to auto land, I still prefer to hand fly the last 1,000. Needless to say, I did learn more from you. One problem I’m having is with the landing gear. After positive rate, I flip the gear up but the plane still has the gear out when I do an exterior look. Also, I can’t get it in the off position despite doing the unlocking two second click. Then, when I’m set to land, the gear won’t come out when commanded. When it finally decides to give me three green, only two show and the nose gear is not extended. After flipping the gear lever several times fast, it finally does making my landing a hair raising experience lol! Maybe I have a buggy file or is it me? Anyway, thanks again for your work (and help this time around!). Cheers
Don't use a joystick gear lever, simply use button control. MSFS currently got some issues with three position gear levers like the one of the 737.
@@A330Driver whoa thanks! I’ll assign a button on my yoke then.
@@FlightSims Check out Simhanger's vid. Works aok on the Bravo.
I can't seem to get it to work, I've got both nav radios tuned to the ILS and I arm the VOR/LOC and APP buttons on the MCP, but as soon as I try to engage the CMD B, CMD A turns off and stays in single channel mode.
Hello what are those green circles on the navigation display, I know how to set it up but I don’t know what are they for
Many very good tutorials Thanks for that. Also interesting would be realistic flight pattern training with the PMDG Boeing as in real life !
I cannot connect both autopilots , when I try to connect B with A engaged the A disengaged , and the same with b
I have a question I arm approach and click the second AP button but then it disengages AP1 what causes this?
Why are there some airport runways' ILS that won't engage both sutopilots for autoland?
I set both Nav radios to the ILS frequency and synchronise both MCP courses using the ILS plates provided through my full Navigraph subscription. However, at some airports, if I engage both autopilots one turns itself off. If I engage the other, the other one turns off. This makes an autoland impossible. Is this to do with the runway's ILS category limitation or to do with a PMDG FMC specific setting? Having said that, the same aircraft with the same exact settings will maintain both autopilots engaged at a different airport, therefore, to me, this seems to have something to do with the runway ILS in question rather than my FMC autoland setting. For example, a full autoland will be accomplished at, say, EKCH ILS rwy 22L but not at (to memory) TFFR ILS "Y" 12 because one of the autopilots will always extinguish no matter what I do.
I also don't fully understand what "FAIL PASS" (or vice versa) means. I have every one of my PMDG aircraft FMC setting to ""FAIL PASS" which allows autoland at most, but not all, airport ILS equipped runways regardless of their CAT I, II or III designation per the charts. FYI,
I'm a retired USNavy Aviator qualified in T28, T45 Goshawk, A4, A6, EA6, A7, F4 and F14. I retired shortly before the F/A 18 Hornet/Super Hornets replaced much of the Navy's older aircraft fleet. The majority of my hours were flown in the A6, EA6 and A7. I was fortunate enough to fly the TF/A 18 Hornet (with instructor in the rear) a few times before I retired and wish I were just 5 years younger because flying that aircraft was such an exhilarating experience - I can only dream of what flying the Super Hornet would have been like. Such is life!
Anyway, could you kindly explain why I'm experiencing this autoland situation? Thanks in advance 👍
You need the frequencies, courses, minimums and the correct identifiers on the PFD, then it will work.
Can you do this using vref and auto throttle?
About the DME mismatch for this particular approach. Maybe the difference is due to the DME antenna being placed at the end of the runway…? Just thinking.
No, it's simply a bug with MSFS. The DMEs are simply incorrectly placed at many airports. Unfortunate, but that's how the sim is. The appraoch chart would tell you if the DME would not read zero over the threshold.
the sound of rain is from msfs or any addons? great video!
@737NGDriver | A330 Driver For the autoland, did you retard the thrust levers or does the auto throttle take care of that? Also, what is the latest point by which the auto pilot and the auto throttle should be disconnected?
Thanks for sharing! One issue I’m having is I can’t get both autopilots to engage (when I select B with A engaged it’ll toggle and vice versa). This is in approach mode; any suggestions?
did u set nav 1 and 2 on the same ils frequency?
No - will try that thanks!
Exactly as Arvidje pointed out. Also make sure both course selectors are set to the approach course.
@@A330Driver Why does it require both? I learned that back on the 737 for FSX but I never really thought about why both course and NAVs need to be set...or both APs need to be on for that matter. In case one fails it doesn't trust the other one?
Thanks guys - that took care of it!
Dumb question, so you have to switch your knob from baro to radio for autoland to work? Where in the sim brief, would I see what the radio number to choose?
Autoland works independent of the minimum setting, however for CAT II and III approaches (which is where autolands are usually done) a radio minimums is used by law.
At 9:19min… ‘localiser alive’, how can you tell, ‘ checking the displays I don’t see anything indicated
Look at the while diamond on the PFD below the ADI. That's your localizer.
@@A330Driver Thank you very much!
How to configure 737 to start directly at final. When i try, there is no oil pressure, obviously and hence no engine power. Even when i refill the fuel, oil etc, nothing. Any help here?
Save a flight in final, then load that flight. The engines might need some seconds to stabilize after loading the flight due to the custom engine model but overall it should work quite fine. That's exactly the method I used to create all these videos.
@@A330Driver when you say save, you mean save in msfs or save as a config in the 737?
Hi can I have a question? I bought 737-800 and I’m using airbus tca setup. After landing when i turn reverse thrust to full I can see on engine thrust display that its on 110 and the aircraft stop like in few seconds.😢 Do somebody know what to do?
I have seen this a few times with some users, but don't remember the fix. Try searching the PMDG forums.
Hello there! I noticed the speed adjusted automatically when u put in flaps - is that something you setup in the Approach page in the FMC? Thank you !! I think I’ve been configuring too soon and the plane is struggling to hold that pitch - seems everything can happen within 7 miles of runway ! Thanks !
That's not automatically set! You have to adjust the speed manually according the flaps as shown in green numbers on the speed-tape!
whenever I attempt an autoland the aircraft is always quite high above the glideslope and lands far down the runway how would I fix this?
Never had that in first place, While only as perfect as MSFS enables an autoland to be it surely wouldn't land "far down the runway".
Would this work the same in a 777
This is a late question but I must be missing something. Everytime I enable the 2nd AP on ILS approach, it automatically disables itse'f 2 secs later. I ensure I was on Fail Op and the backup instrumentation was digital. Why does it disable itself?
Both frequencies and courses set correctly? GS and LOC armed or active?
@@A330Driver I set up everything as instructed in the video. Both NAV frequencies set. Both Courses set. FMC approach page with Vrefs set. APP armed and established on the localizer and glideslope. I press AP B and both are lit for a moment but then AP A extinguishes and B assumes command. I press AP A again and both lit but then B extinguishes and A assumes control. I can't keep both lit. So I am missing something coming into KSJC on 30L. Something is not showing in your video that I am missing or it went over my head.
What is the autopilot crosswind limit during the landing ?
Thanks very much for all your great 737 videos, it's highly appreciated! One question though, after an ILS or Autopilot landing, at what moment exactly do you switch off the AP and AT? Directly
after touchdown? If I understand it right, the auto throttle is not needed until touchdown, is that correct?
Switch them off right on touchdown.
The AT should be used during an autoland, if it is available.
Hello. Thanks for your work.
I am expacting / missing a LAND 3 message on the pfd. I think I got that in P3d / Fsx I also see that in other youtube video's.
What the story with this? Ty.
Only the Fail Operational aircraft have it. The Fail Passive ones don't.
Adjusted my cockpit so that i have the reset.recall button. Tested again and got my Land 3 indication. And as you mentioned the ac followed centerline after landing. Great!
Next test combined with the hud and closing with adding weather. :-)
Why does the glideslope drift away upwards when you cross the threshold and trigger a glideslope warning? That doesn't happen in real life does it? I have the same issue when landing manually. I think I'm on profile but then I get the warning. I never had this in other sims.
It’s an MSFS bug that got introduced with SU9.
@@A330Driver Oh okay yeah I knew I never saw it before the PMDG released. So annoying. How did this go unnoticed during the beta?
Just curious in real life with the flog this thick wouldnt all flights be delayed until it cleared up?
No, as long as the operating minimums are adhered to operations will continue.
Sure enough there will be delays, but not because they'd shut the airport down, but simply because in such bad visibility conditions there needs to be greater distances between aircraft and thus the maximum amount of traffic an airport can handle will be decreased.
Thank you!
Wonderful tutorial!!!
May I ask, which monitor you use? 16:9 or 21:9?
Hi, I'm using a 16:9 monitor. An LG 43UD79-B 107.98 cm (42.51 Inch) UHD 4K IPS Monitor to be exact.
@@A330Driver Thank you!
… and never regretted not having bought that “HIGHLY IMMERSIVE” 21:9 one ?? 🤪
I’m currently trying to decide.
Got the impression from your videos that 16:9 allows you a better view of the instruments of an airliner.
For just vfr cruising in a Piper over an Africa savanna 16:9 might be fine..
Hello there again ! Thanks for all the great content - one question - during todays flight for some reason I could not get both autopilot cmd A and cmd b to stay on simultaneously- when I turn on cmd b it would disengage cmd a and vice versa - I had both flight directors on and.Both Navs tuned as well… anything that would cause this? Maybe model 737 of livery I selected so panel was different from before when it worked for me ? Thank you!!
Did you have the ILS frequency and course selected on both sides? If not they won't engage.
@@A330Driver sorry when I clicked on cmd b during final they both stayed on! So that’s good…But then about 300 out ft they both disconnected- wonder if it didn’t like my airspeed it would automatically disconnect autopilot? Thanks !
Hi Emmanuel!
Excellent videos. I found just this video out of focus throughout. No problems with other videos. Is this your recording problem or my PC?
It's UA-cam that took too long to process the video. It showed me it was finished so I released it before I went to work. Just check back in a few hours and it should be in HD.
@@A330Driver It is already back in sharp focus. Many thanks.
Another superb video! Thank you! I was doing a flight today and got a hydraulic overheat indication on the overhead. Everything looked normal and so I landed at my destination and then when the plane was in the turnaround phase the indication stopped. Should I have diverted
You should have done the hydraulic overheat non normal checklist which would have given you futher instruction. If a failure makes a diversion necessary the QRH will tell you.
The normal course of action, unless the situation demands otherwise, is to continue to the destination.
@@A330Driver Thank you I’ve saved a copy of the QRH - just says to switch off the affected side 👍
I'm still having a hard time figuring out how to make the plane follow the programmed route. I turn on autopilot and LNAV VNAV but it still just flies in a straight line and never follows the course programmed in the FMC
Have you watched my tutorial series?
@@A330Driver No but I will. For whatever reason I've really been struggling with this plane. Does this work at all with routing in the flight sim route planner? Or do you need to do everything in the FMC and fly VFR?
@@sgtstedanko7186 You need to program the route in the FMC. The MSFS flight planner is unreliable and does not produce valid routes. However, if you enter a route from the MSFS planner into the FMC the airplane should still be able to follow it.
Love your videos...but too blurry today. No HD available?
Best,
Barty
Its still too new...takes time to render the full quality version - check back later.
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can never get auto land to engage. When I switch on the second auto pilot all it does is switch and the first auto pilot goes out. I'm ready to give up on it.
Your ILS is not armed.
@@A330Driver
Yes my ILS is armed, I fly it to the runway. I lock onto the ILS no problem and fly the LOC and GS to the runway. The APP works fine. So I'm not sure what you mean when you say my ILS is not armed. I can fly the ILS, I just can't arm both auto pilots to use the auto land. I must be missing something, everything else on auto pilot works fine. I can fly without it but the feature is there so it would be nice to be able to use it.
P.S. Your videos are great and have taught me a lot. The only thing I couldn't get to work like you explained was the auto land.
@@A330Driver
I got the second auto pilot to engage and was able to use the auto land. Thanx for the tip bud. Cheers!
Not sure what I do wrong, but when I try to arm CMD B, it just switches over from CMD A.
APP armed and correct FMA indicated (VOR/LOC and GS in white)?
In real life, if you heard “sink rate” during short final in an autoland configuration, would you go around?
Absolutely
@@A330Driver I guess my follow up question would be would the autopilot allow a dangerous rate of decent to “catch up” to the glide slope or would there just come a point where the computer would give up and you have to fly the approach again?
Emi - have you used a preset for the weather in this video, or was it live weather ?
I based it on the default overcast scenario, but lowered the cloud ceiling all the way to the ground and set maximum precipitation and humidity.
How far from the airport should I start descending from cruise?
See the descend tutorial, everything's explained in there.
I have heard a 737 can autoland on a single engine with flaps 15 as long as the APU is running. Is this true?
No, both engines are required
Only a fail operational 737, which is rare , is able to autoland on one engine, but boeing only approves flaps 30 for this situation.
Thank you ! Are you supposed to put ILS freq on both nav 1 and 2 ? Can’t wait for the go around part now :)
Yes you need it on both radios
@@A330Driver is the nav 1 used only by CMD1 and nav2 used only by CMD2?
because in CAT III ur supposed to turn on both autopilots so I was wandering if they get the date from the same nav system or separate?
Hi is it mandatory to engage cmd B before catching the GS or you can still engage it after ?
You can engage it after capturing the GS, but I'd highly recommend to engage it as early as possible (so right after APP is armed).
Not sure if anyone else has had this but sometimes the aircraft isn't aligned with the runway or ils isn't aligned with the centerline
Have you checked the charts to see if the localizer may be offset? Is it a CAT III approved runway?
@@A330Driver it was, I find it happens a lot more with the asobo handcrafted airports like KLAX than with the generic ones. Payware scenery has been fine as far as my testing goes.
@@ZholikOW yeah, the accuracy of those "handcrafted" airports can nicely be seen in Frankfurts taxilines... they look like someone was totally drunk when drawing them. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is the case with the approach procedures.
Wow, that actually looked scary! What does the single CH on the PFD mean?
Mean Single Channel, is showed in PDF when AP is operating in single channel A or B during APP ILS.
It shows you that only a single autopilot is currently controlling the airplane. It changes to CMD when the pitch monitor confidence test is completed and the second autopilot engages.
Will this work with the -800?
Yes
What settings for zero zero?
What do you mean with zero zero?
@@A330Driver the visibility and ceiling, what did you put in the sim to get the solid IFR to the ground. I have a hard time getting it that soupy, and when I do it changes so rapidly I can’t be sure it’ll be that way when I cross the threshold. Thank you BTW for all your great info and videos!
When I hit cmd b it flashes and disconnects
ILS Freq and course set on both radios?
@@A330Driver I only had the ils tuned on the captain side. Also my nose steering isn’t animated and neither is the rudder pedals. Is that my install or on pmdgs side
@@A330Driver update. I have both navs and courses tuned to the ils. The cmd will change over and the f/o gets primary controls
Weather conditions were bad.
Close to the minimum you can do indeed!
Slammed it down hard though
Autoland is meant to be safe, not smooth.
Yeah MSFS is a limited simulator, it's a toy, it's for entertainment NOT simulator, it's not a Full Certified Simulator, like P3D, where P3D is a licensed full rated simulator you can actually log Simulator Hours On that and it would be accepted by the FAA as real Simulator hours, Unlike MSFS, you can not, the FAA would laugh at you if you..
If you really want the True Experience of PMDG aircraft, get it for PD3 V6 you will notice 100% difference in Realism..
Besides MSFS has had nothing but BUGS from day one , now over 4 years later they still have some of the same BUGS as they did in Day one, and when they fix a Bug 2 or 3 more pops up from the fix LOL
Also their Support Forums is a JOKE.. they got Un-professional moderators who ban people who just simply question the moderators, and label the BAN reason as too Combative..
it's all corrupt there..
P3D is way better...
P3D is not licensed for anything and sucks big time as well 😅😂
@@A330Driver i have P3D v4 and it worked better than MSFS.. on their website it does say they are licensed as a Valid Simulator and can be used to log in Actual Simulator Time.
This is for Students according to them any way.
360p???
Had to go to work on a rather tight schedule, youtube told me the video finished processing and so I released it. Didn't check if it actually finished beforehand. I should have done though... then I would have seen that it was actually not finished. Sorry.
Theres something wrong in your audio track. The words are extremely sharp with buzzsaw sounds in every word. I am sorry that I am not able to watch any of your videos.
My 737 identifies as an f-14.
And mine as an Apache Attack Helicopter
I tried arming the second autopilot in Approach all it did was disconnect my first autopilot and wouldn't engage both. Any ideas of what I'm missing?
Courses and frequencies set on both sides?
@@A330Driver yes