Pavarotti Masterclass - Chi bel sogno di Doretta

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  • @williammelvin
    @williammelvin 2 роки тому +16

    I know nothing about the technicalities, but it is beautiful to watch a Maestro at work.
    Thank you. This is what UA-cam is about. 🙏

  • @shirleyrombough8173
    @shirleyrombough8173 5 років тому +46

    The perfect voice teacher is the one who produces such wonderful sounds himself: none other than the wonderful Luciano Pavarotti. This soprano is really talented herself.

    • @ransomcoates546
      @ransomcoates546 3 роки тому +7

      Not at all true. The greatest singers are notoriously poor teachers of technique. Coaching, yes, but what makes them extraordinary singers is something granted by God/Nature, and they hardly ever understand it themselves, much less communicate it to students.

  • @carnivalwrestler
    @carnivalwrestler 11 років тому +76

    "The top is there -- beautiful -- don't worry." Wouldn't you like to hear Pavarotti tell you that?!! But great advice about holding back. Makes the contrast to the high note much richer.

  • @catothecensor
    @catothecensor 4 роки тому +79

    Big Luciano nailing a soprano part in falsetto, omg he could do anything with his incredible voice and actor skills.

    • @65NART
      @65NART 4 роки тому +3

      Actor skills? Beautiful Opera singer yes. Actor? No.

    • @catothecensor
      @catothecensor 4 роки тому +6

      @@65NART actually he was one of the best opera singer in terms of actor skills. His Duke of Mantua for example, will be forever the highest standard in Rigoletto.

    • @catothecensor
      @catothecensor 4 роки тому +4

      @@65NART and honestly, where did you saw him live? Opera, theatre and date please: let me check critic reviews of what you saw - if any.

    • @pugh.joseph
      @pugh.joseph 3 роки тому +2

      when did he use falsetto?

    • @catothecensor
      @catothecensor 3 роки тому +2

      @@pugh.joseph 3:57 - 4:07 falsetto imitating soprano, and then humming same again as tenore

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc Рік тому +5

    What a wonderful time we have lived in to be able to see and hear something completely magical like this, I was melting as she sang that final try, what a beautiful woman and a voice like an angel

  • @melaD333
    @melaD333 3 роки тому +10

    What a master storyteller he was! Watching him teach others now I know why everyone I watch him I’m so mesmerized…

  • @34bx
    @34bx 4 роки тому +53

    03:56 his voice is just😍😍 I can't, I wish there was a complete version sung by him

  • @davidwhyberd7612
    @davidwhyberd7612 4 роки тому +50

    I was taught Bel Canto and my teacher said " imagine the consonants like pegs on a clothes line. Sing through the consonants but always maintain the legato line". Also, if you are coming to the part that is important and forte, sing mezzo piano, or mezzo forte, at most, beforehand to highlight it; and let the music breath, using a little rubato which gives the shape to the legato line. It is what the maestro is saying and what I was taught.

    • @featherelfstrom8405
      @featherelfstrom8405 3 роки тому

      Yep. Not many people care about the consonants, as long as you've got your vowels right :-)

    • @shells500tutubo
      @shells500tutubo 7 місяців тому

      @@featherelfstrom8405 If you want to understand the lyrics in any language other than Italian, the consonants are important.

  • @boredcrab2
    @boredcrab2 10 років тому +293

    could you imagine how scared these performers must be? it's like if you had to recite your poetry for shakespeare

    • @mga2899
      @mga2899 6 років тому +17

      Recalling a Perlman class in Moscow. First thing he told an aspiring musician was that she was holding her violin wrong. Showed her a new position and told her to play. Good luck with that.

    • @baritonebynight
      @baritonebynight 5 років тому +16

      Not as scary as you might think. I had the fortune of singing for a famous singer once who was such a good teacher and was so kind that I forgot to be scared and simply worked on the music. For moment we were just two artists in search of a common goal. Its amazing how human and approachable the folks at the top of the classical world can be.

    • @joshuacloverland5043
      @joshuacloverland5043 5 років тому

      mwaddisfilms Not, for Vergil!

    • @joaov.m.oliveira9903
      @joaov.m.oliveira9903 4 роки тому +4

      I've always thought of Shakespeare as a kind, laughing and benevolent country guy with enough self-irony so to not be so rigorous towards others.

    • @alcelaya1365
      @alcelaya1365 4 роки тому +5

      Supposedly, Lou Holtz, former football coach at Notre Dame and Arkansas came over to watch his new freshman kicker at practice. The kid proceeded to shank several kicks off of the uprights. "Coach, it makes me nervous when you watch me" said the kicker. Holtz replied "Well, son. I hate to tell you this but I plan on being at every game this season so you need to get used to it."

  • @Lederius18
    @Lederius18 7 років тому +30

    Wow her top notes were incredible. So clear and full of color.

  • @yajnagaurangadas1599
    @yajnagaurangadas1599 Рік тому +1

    How beautiful and gracious this woman and Luciano
    ...just missing him

  • @johnhwalker
    @johnhwalker 7 років тому +18

    Very insightful and useful comments from Maestro Pavarotti. The difference between competence and truly great singing.

  • @joanlembo7845
    @joanlembo7845 3 роки тому +5

    He is just so wonderful, amazing and brilliant. I just love him. ❤️

  • @angelwr08
    @angelwr08 3 роки тому +7

    Mother of god, he is an epic real magister vocal coach.

  • @herwigcoryn6197
    @herwigcoryn6197 11 місяців тому

    Total genius. I played with maestro in the 90ties. Being impressed is saying poca cosa. He is such a music "beast". He knows exactly what to do

  • @puccinislarondine
    @puccinislarondine 11 років тому +51

    At 6:20 part of what I think the Maestro is saying is that you sing on the vowel. Poco piu largo - a little longer - meaning that you have to get to the vowel (still respecting and relishing the consonants) because that is the part you sustain on. This is part of the basis of legato singing and bel canto. He gave very good masterclasses and good instruction. I miss him. :)

    • @rachele83
      @rachele83 3 роки тому

      Actually, I think he just wanted to say to keep the first vowel a bit longer

  • @overthetip
    @overthetip 4 роки тому +70

    I love how he throws in some Italian here and there LOL

    • @fezzik7619
      @fezzik7619 4 роки тому +11

      It’s a common thing for ESL. Spanish speakers do it as well. It’s good conversational practice actually. If you don’t know a word in English, substitute your native word and keep going. It’s likely the native English speaker will understand you from the context of the entire sentence

    • @annac6778
      @annac6778 4 роки тому +3

      The singer Cristina is italian. He's keeping most of it in english for the audience, but for the benefit of the singer he's saying in italian some words that are untranslatable in english and immediately clear to her in italian

    • @overthetip
      @overthetip 4 роки тому

      @@annac6778 she's not Italian. She doesn't look nor sound Italian, plus her name is Christine Radman, not an Italian name.

    • @ruthrogers808
      @ruthrogers808 3 роки тому

      Maestro Amazing!!

    • @ruthrogers808
      @ruthrogers808 3 роки тому +2

      Every sound he utters is beautiful and from the 💕🇮🇹❤️😘🕊Heart.

  • @marianneluban3347
    @marianneluban3347 8 років тому +11

    Divine voice. Can really float the tone.

  • @AVMamfortas
    @AVMamfortas 6 місяців тому

    That was Fabulous. Powerful. Emotional.

  • @34bx
    @34bx 4 роки тому +6

    It is true what his mother said to him... something in my chest moves everytime I hear him sing😍😍

  • @TeachUBusiness
    @TeachUBusiness 4 роки тому +7

    Man, he is exactly right on---she gets better each time. A LOT better.

  • @joesoy9185
    @joesoy9185 4 роки тому +11

    Considering the circumstances, this young lady coped magnificently. This situation is far more foreboding than any live performance. Any critics on here should get up and do it, or simply shut up!!

  • @johnblasiak607
    @johnblasiak607 5 років тому +18

    Pavarotti really knows his art and to top it off he is compassionate If it’s true he couldn’t read music it’s more important and true that he lives and understands the music as an example a person can speak a language beautifully but not be able to write it
    Only thing that’s important is conveying to the listener the message

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten 5 років тому +1

      John Blasiak makes it even the more impressive, remember vangelis? He is had the same issue l, he developed an own system only he can use and “read” to make his music. His net worth is 245million, he makes about 27k a day.. all that without reading music really

  • @brunaazzurra
    @brunaazzurra 5 років тому +1

    splendida Master class di Luciano Pavarotti... suggerimenti sottili, sulla esecuzione ::: scappata.... di questo giovane soprano. che alla fine apprende ed esegue con morbidezza e senza correre questo dolcissimo brano . bravissimo Luciano

    • @saverioorlando
      @saverioorlando 2 роки тому

      la fissazione della big voice porta a strillare senza senso,ascoltate la Montsy

  • @BirdOfParadise777
    @BirdOfParadise777 11 років тому +20

    Oh God... how I miss him! :(

  • @elainepurcell2343
    @elainepurcell2343 8 місяців тому +1

    John Wustman at the piano!

  • @Adam-dv2je
    @Adam-dv2je 4 роки тому +5

    Her Music is so beautiful

  • @thelouisfanclub
    @thelouisfanclub 9 років тому +11

    beautiful singer beautiful man
    rip

  • @ChelseaJanzen
    @ChelseaJanzen 12 років тому +3

    AHH fabulous. Working on this aria now and loved his advice!!

  • @DominicR-y5d
    @DominicR-y5d 7 місяців тому

    Pavarotti-so impressive!

  • @doriep
    @doriep 9 років тому +11

    Wow. Such excellent instruction. I do not understand the technicalities of this art, but as an audience/listener, I understand which parts of the piece I hold my breath to hear. I love how he instructed her to "buttare" the phrase leading up to the first anticipation point. One of my favourite pieces all time, doesn't hurt that my name is in the title ;)

    • @pugh.joseph
      @pugh.joseph 3 роки тому

      lol

    • @bk818
      @bk818 2 роки тому

      exactly beautiful doretta

  • @johnclawed
    @johnclawed 4 роки тому +14

    I used to watch this show on TV back when PBS was worth watching. Now it's just the dullest documentaries, financial advisors, and lectures on the medicinal benefits of enemas.

  • @mga2899
    @mga2899 4 роки тому +11

    In a hundred years they will say the name Pavarotti before Caruso.

  • @ДжонМирошниченко-у3д

    Вот она,художественная правка Паваротти.Детали,которые ускользнули от заслуженной певицы и,возможно,её педагога.Великолепный голос,нечего сказать.

  • @MrTanorus
    @MrTanorus 8 років тому +4

    absolutely beautiful top.

  • @jangleeerika687
    @jangleeerika687 5 років тому +7

    I think i need that 8:10 voice be my ringtone.. How could his voice sounds mesmerizing even when he make some chicken sound... Damn..

  • @VocalEdgeTV
    @VocalEdgeTV 12 років тому +4

    Thanks for posting!

  • @albertohinojosa1314
    @albertohinojosa1314 9 років тому +28

    9:12 dat face, though

  • @claudemabanzo2267
    @claudemabanzo2267 4 роки тому +2

    Magnifique

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet Рік тому

    7:47 here ...always reminds me of spoken word piece I wrote, with 747 inbedded in prose ...most popular piece/video on UA-cam, long ago

  • @vindre7
    @vindre7 4 роки тому +2

    Bravo Madame.

  • @lorenzomarco1113
    @lorenzomarco1113 9 років тому +21

    "Buttiamola" = let's just throw it out without any thinking

  • @infrantasi
    @infrantasi 11 років тому +21

    It's a pretty voice, not very distinctive, but she looks like she just walked off the set of "Laverne and Shirley"! Pavarotti is a great teacher though!

  • @ruthwhite6627
    @ruthwhite6627 9 років тому +3

    i liked this very much

  • @vanizebrown961
    @vanizebrown961 3 роки тому +1

    Que maravilhosos!!!!

  • @AnaLuiza-rl9ee
    @AnaLuiza-rl9ee 3 роки тому

    Quanta pressão psicológica e emocional.... cantar na presença do eterno Maestro é para poucos.

  • @thomasglorioso8769
    @thomasglorioso8769 6 років тому +5

    There's A LOT of promise there, but I'm hearing a shouty sound. It's a good piece for her and with further coaching, she'll be a hit! I agree with everything Pavorotti was trying to accomplish with her.

  • @wewper
    @wewper 3 роки тому +9

    All Pavarotti was trying to teach her was legato-a simple concept, the bedrock of good opera singing, but nonetheless difficult to achieve. Either she wasn't getting it or was so caught up in her sound she refused to get it. At one point, she thought she could do what Pavarotti was asking for by extending note values. A shame, since she has such a beautiful voice.

  • @meirwise1107
    @meirwise1107 4 роки тому +3

    Callas also gave Masterclasses. I'm sure how the students managed to sing a note!

  • @georgemosarm1345
    @georgemosarm1345 3 роки тому +10

    Beautiful Beautifil voice! Such a sweet sound but she doesn't use her chest voice though! Only head sound, if coordinatied chest and head voice she would hit the top!
    Very musical lady

  • @nickc3514
    @nickc3514 6 років тому +6

    i really like her voice. how come there's no other video of her ?

    • @johnpickford4222
      @johnpickford4222 4 роки тому +3

      nick c: So many singers, so little interest in classical music and opera today.

    • @MeiLan-h6u
      @MeiLan-h6u 10 місяців тому

      What’s her name?

    • @stefisolari117
      @stefisolari117 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MeiLan-h6uChristine radman

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze 11 років тому +5

    Hai ragione. Magda canta "CHI il bel sogno di Doretta potè indovinar..." Il Maestro Pavarotti si sbaglia. In inglese, "WHO can guess Doretta's beautiful dream..." Saluti da Firenze.

  • @Dr.DivaMa
    @Dr.DivaMa 11 років тому +17

    This aria should be sung in this way there's no need to over dramatize, it is a lyric thing....

  • @alejandroquintero3924
    @alejandroquintero3924 2 роки тому +1

    you most be very good to stand and sing next to pavarotti

  • @aarenmarchi
    @aarenmarchi 11 років тому +20

    the audience looks so bored. I would have been taking notes lol

  • @mijcummi
    @mijcummi 11 років тому +6

    It's definitely Chi'il bel sogno...with a Chi. They're both incorrect, the soprano is correct.

  • @tigerleis9802
    @tigerleis9802 8 років тому +3

    minuto 9.10 impresionante 😢😊😍

    • @doriep
      @doriep 7 років тому +1

      Tiger Leis davvero

  • @LMSILVIA
    @LMSILVIA 2 роки тому +1

    A woman like that and i would do the dishes every day...

    • @RonWylie-gk5lc
      @RonWylie-gk5lc Рік тому

      Yes indeed and I would do the vacuuming also

  • @javieralejandrogutierrezfa8882

    Wish year was this

  • @S-dd7kd
    @S-dd7kd 2 місяці тому

    ピアニストの気の使い方が勉強になります。空気読むプロやわ。

  • @LaSopRAWna
    @LaSopRAWna 5 років тому +13

    I sense way too much resonance coming out of the mouth. It's a more broadway "legit" placement, and therefore, it's producing a shrill and harsh tone. It might be good for a Disney movie musical. For this aria and Puccini, I sense she needs to place the voice "up and over", higher and further back - what i mean is, allow it to resonate in the pharyngeal resonating cavity - not sure if i'm saying it right but i know what i mean. i loved what Pav said about simpler more legato phrasing and binding the consonants to each other. seems so easy but takes real skill. When he talked about using the diaphragm, i wish we had ex-ray vision into his gut. I guess one knows it when they feel the connection finally, they say it is like a leaning, appoggio, support. it's a struggle for me often to maintain connection to my body. He didn't seem too pleased with her lack of restraint and tenderness on the high notes. She seemed to misunderstand about not having to worry about them, feeling proud of herself. He reiterated 'Less, like nothing..."throw them away..."' She approached them with all guns blazing, bruising his tender heart. I think it's the wrong aria. If she has super high notes, she'd make a good queen of the night as it's not a pretty voice, but penetrating and irritating. In the end, i think he probably sensed that was all he could do with her in the time given. Seems to me to be the wrong aria to showcase her specific comfort zone. Not sure if what i'm saying is correct or not, but it's my sense of the situation. I'd love feedback.

    • @sparkleparty5947
      @sparkleparty5947 4 роки тому +3

      glad you said this all because it voiced my thoughts exactly

    • @featherelfstrom8405
      @featherelfstrom8405 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. She's too bombastic. Okay, we get it, you can hit the notes when you're loud. But can you still do it quietly and introspectively?

  • @ruthrogers808
    @ruthrogers808 3 роки тому

    Only thumb up for Maestro Pavarotti!That’s enough.

  • @Taehan_Kim_1
    @Taehan_Kim_1 Рік тому

    ❤❤

  • @victormora5880
    @victormora5880 3 роки тому +1

    Search this song from Monserrat caballe soprano

    • @featherelfstrom8405
      @featherelfstrom8405 3 роки тому

      I love Monserrat for her technical ability, but Renee Fleming (or any other 'darker' soprano) sounds better, to me.

  • @brianshoman1723
    @brianshoman1723 4 роки тому

    Was that Francis Ford Coppola in the audience? I don't know.

  • @jorgemunoz3545
    @jorgemunoz3545 6 місяців тому

    Ella escogió el Aria equivocada.

  • @operamystic
    @operamystic 11 років тому +4

    I thought the title was Chi il bel sognno di Doretta.......

    • @Lorraine_Pagan_Parks
      @Lorraine_Pagan_Parks 4 роки тому +2

      It is! Canzone di Doretta is another name it's known as. You are correct, though :)

  • @GoldenEagle469
    @GoldenEagle469 6 років тому

    Good enough

  • @bellinicallas
    @bellinicallas 4 роки тому +1

    Si sembra a Sara Scudieri. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @voraciousreader3341
    @voraciousreader3341 16 днів тому

    Who is this singer and where is she now? She had her beautiful upper register almost there-she had the ‘chiaro,’ but not much of the ‘scuro’-but her vowels didn’t track. She seemed to periodically ‘grab’ above her Adam’s apple, and this made her come on and off her diaphragm/support within the phrases. The fact that she’s not identified in the description suggests that she didn’t go on to have a top career; the fact that I dk who she is doesn’t necessarily mean much, but it is suggestive.

  • @rramosbroccetti
    @rramosbroccetti 5 років тому +33

    Her voice is so highhhhhh... She should be singing a more soubrette or coloratura repertoire... not heavy repertoire... :)

  • @JoeLupariello
    @JoeLupariello 9 років тому +2

    What is the expression Pavarotti say at 8:00- "Buttiamo ???"

    • @Mr.TorqueTalk
      @Mr.TorqueTalk 9 років тому +3

      +Joe Lupariello Buttiamo la fraseli

    • @doriep
      @doriep 7 років тому +1

      He's saying "butta" "throw it out". don't pay too much attention to this part, just get it out like no big deal ... that way you can surprise the listener with the next part which is the high point of the piece - to infuse as much emotion for the listener as possible. What a delicate piece of guidance.

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому +1

      Buttiamola lì. It translates as ‘Throw it out there’ ( without thinking )

  • @MezzoMamma1
    @MezzoMamma1 11 років тому +9

    She looks like she is singing in a musical instead of an opera. She does not have her soul into. There is no bitter sweet remembrance to her interpretation,

  • @draganatanasov2503
    @draganatanasov2503 11 років тому +1

    Absolutely correct, but if you mean that it's chi phonetically then you're incorrect. It is rather a phonetical Ki.

  • @Gregoire2009
    @Gregoire2009 7 років тому +8

    I think Pavarotti sung it better as a tenor.

    • @gayoperadude63
      @gayoperadude63 5 років тому +2

      In the context of the opera, Ruggiero sings this melody first followed by the Soprano

  • @borregalesandres
    @borregalesandres 2 роки тому

    Who is she?

  • @I_Am_Midnight-i
    @I_Am_Midnight-i 4 роки тому

    She sings with a lot of tongue root tension, I guess that's one of the dangers in opera when you're told to lower the larynx all the time.

  • @michaelcaliplip8908
    @michaelcaliplip8908 8 років тому

    what is her name ?

    • @acacia-bloom
      @acacia-bloom 6 років тому +1

      Everybody has obviously forgotten LOL

  • @BangkokVoiceCoach
    @BangkokVoiceCoach 2 роки тому

    This is so funny. He just waves a pencil around. Pavarotti was no teacher (it is generally acknowledged) but he was some singer!!!

    • @raymondgood6555
      @raymondgood6555 Рік тому +2

      I completely disagree with your evaluation of Pavarotti’s teaching ability!!!!!

    • @adenthestudiorat
      @adenthestudiorat 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@raymondgood6555me too, totally. I am no classical singer, but I took classical lessons as integration when I studied jazz singing at the Royal Conservatoire in the Netherlands. Well, I was able to get a much better dynamic and sound by only watching all these short videos over and over, by hearing pavarotti talking about legato, messa di voce, covering, passaggio, expression, than in 6 months of classes (and my teacher was not a rookie, rest assured). This man knew what he was doing and knew how to express it to others, very clearly. God knows what he could have done of a promising student.

  • @anne-louiseluccarini4530
    @anne-louiseluccarini4530 Рік тому

    Chi il bel sogno. Not "il bel sogno". She's correct, but he's not a soprano so we'll forgive him.

  • @ВалерийБорисов-п1р
    @ВалерийБорисов-п1р 3 роки тому +2

    Мелко, задрано, передний звук. Не кругло.

  • @4cortesy
    @4cortesy 11 років тому +1

    Just to point out that the title is "IL" bel sogno di Doretta and not "CHI". The soprano sings in a way that seems she's saying "Chi" but even Pavarotti and the pianist, later on, say "IL". By the way, I love these Masterclasses where you see how much technique and interpretation is involved when singing the Opera.

  • @irinadz
    @irinadz 3 роки тому

    A bit annoying sound lucking chest

  • @VoiceVirtuoso
    @VoiceVirtuoso 9 років тому +12

    she sounded a hot mess, but he's a good instructor.

    • @aykcroid
      @aykcroid 9 років тому +1

      +VoiceVirtuoso If he's a good instructor, then it's because he's had good fortune to have had good teachers himself. Arrigo Pola was his singing teacher.

    • @evamakri6985
      @evamakri6985 9 років тому +6

      Do you really think this is what a hot mess sounds like, (especially in the face of a student)? Oh, come on!! You cannot deny that listening to her made you feel utterly relaxed, that you did not sense your throat straining (which would indicate that hers was) even for a single moment! Airiness and normality in the sound is perhaps the most pivotal aspect of singing. Unfortunately, though, very frequently it is mistakenly taken for granted even by the most famous singers...

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому

      @@aykcroid not only Arrigo Pola. He and Freni both also studied with Ettore Campogalliani,

  • @christinec.6685
    @christinec.6685 3 роки тому +1

    Completely wrong aria for her. What the heck?

  • @lestermatos2989
    @lestermatos2989 11 місяців тому

    She is too aggressive

  • @Sotzume
    @Sotzume Рік тому

    A lovely voice but with absolutely no musicianship...how does that happen? Pavarotti tried but to no avail.

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet Рік тому

    Everything God made ...frauds want to destroy ...this is why Reckoning is going to be, a mess ...putting it mildly 🐑

  • @infoanalysis
    @infoanalysis 6 років тому +2

    what a pain in the A%$ he is, I would go nuts! But if you want to make it in that thin space I guess you have to go to the slightest details.

    • @flav2689
      @flav2689 3 роки тому +7

      What do you mean a pain in the a%s? He was giving really good advice, only to help her.

  • @倪崧原-m4l
    @倪崧原-m4l 4 місяці тому

    ExceIlent!