@Golden Knight Ummmm... Not going to debate the man vs myth, but even atheist scholars believe the man existed. I love watching booger eaters trip on their own bottom lip though, appreciate that 😂🤣
@Golden Knight perhaps you can name a couple, and point us to their research? Since you're such a grace to the IQ pool 😂🤣 And, who said I was religious?
@Golden Knight Robert Eisenman, Bart Ehrman, J.D. Crossan as a few. Dillahunty moderated a debate between Ehrman and Bob price for reference... Reza Aslan even wrote a book on the historical Jesus, and has little stake in Christianity, as he's a Muslim. For good measure, here's dillahunty himself, telling you what the bulk of scholarship thinks on this topic. ua-cam.com/video/9gPlZviMHvc/v-deo.html
In my university there were STEM students with a "I work out at the library" mindset who unironically believed being geeky meant they were incapable of being physically fit. I even saw a guy use his "nerdiness" as justification for being unable to cook anything besides eggs... It's baloney cause the one guy in my university who looked the most like a DBZ character brought to real life was a Physics major.
Physical fitness can improve blood flow to the brain and help with memory generation and retention. You have to cultivate mind, body, and soul. No chair can stand on less than three legs.
physicla fitness literally improves mental performance lol, using all your time points on one skill is retarded, everyone should be fit AND smart, no reason not to
Tbh the psychology behind all this is really fascinating. I myself was into this "I was bullied all the time because I am special/better than others." sort of thing. Of course it is a sad story behind it and quite often the person who gets bullied (initially!) a lot is not even particularly to blame for being bullied. However I learned that *I* *am* indeed to blame for clinging/holding onto this old, bad and cheap coping mechanism. Because it is extremely narcissistic and ego-centric, in short: self-pity. At first it is a coping mechanism to deal with certain amounts of pain through bullying. But when the bullies are long gone, this dysfunctional mechanism is still inside of you and in the very end this mechanism will ruin your life, and not so much the initial experience of being bullied. All this "I will prove something to the world" (from EELS' "Bus Stop Boxer"), all this I will become the next Cuckerberg and so on. Break free from all of this. Self-Improvement. Aim for becoming chad. That is what the bullies alienated you from. But most often this development is still possible for you. It's *not* healthy to stay alienated from your inner-chad side. Being a "nerd" is no accomplishment at all. PS: Your passion for tech is ok. Heck, I just reinstalled my Linux system as of writing this. But do NOT make it the only center of your life and relationships! [my English is not native in any way. hope you still got along reading my comment.]
Nietzsche BTFOd nerds, even the ones that achieved fame and fortune as they may do in todays economy, long before the term even existed. They are cripples in reverse. "And when I came out of my solitude, and for the first time passed over this bridge, then I could not trust mine eyes, but looked again and again, and said at last: “That is an ear! An ear as big as a man!” I looked still more attentively-and actually there did move under the ear something that was pitiably small and poor and slim. And in truth this immense ear was perched on a small thin stalk-the stalk, however, was a man! A person putting a glass to his eyes, could even recognise further a small envious countenance, and also that a bloated soullet dangled at the stalk. The people told me, however, that the big ear was not only a man, but a great man, a genius. But I never believed in the people when they spoke of great men-and I hold to my belief that it was a reversed cripple, who had too little of everything, and too much of one thing." - Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Counterpoint from Nietzsche: “Almost always the books of scholars are somehow oppressive, oppressed: the “specialist” emerges somewhere-his zeal, his seriousness, his fury, his overestimation of the nook in which he sits and spins, his hunched back; every specialist has his hunched back. Every scholarly book also mirrors a soul that has become crooked; every craft makes crooked.…Nothing can be done about that. Let nobody suppose that one could possibly avoid such crippling by some artifice of education. On this earth one pays dearly for every kind of mastery.…For having a specialty one pays by also being the victim of this specialty. But you would have it otherwise-cheaper and fairer and above all more comfortable-isn’t that right, my dear contemporaries. Well then, but in that case you also immediately get something else: instead of the craftsman and master, the “man of letters,” the dexterous, “polydexterous” man of letters who, to be sure, lacks the hunched back-not counting the posture he assumes before you, being the salesman of the spirit and the “carrier” of culture-the man of letters who really is nothing but “represents” almost everything, playing and “substituting” for the expert, and taking it upon himself in all modesty to get himself paid, honored, and celebrated in place of the expert. No, my scholarly friends, I bless you even for your hunched back. And for despising, as I do, the “men of letters” and culture parasites. And for not knowing how to make a business of the spirit. And for having opinions that cannot be translated into financial values. And for not representing anything that you are not. And because your sole aim is to become masters of your craft, with reverence for every kind of mastery and competence, and with uncompromising opposition to everything that is semblance, half-genuine, dressed up, virtuosolike, demagogical, or histrionic in litteris et artibus-to everything that cannot prove to you its unconditional probity in discipline and prior training, [The Gay Science, sec. 366]”
I disagree with him. "Too much of one thing"... I'm pretty sure "too much" is when there's so much of something that it actually impedes you and causes harm. If a man's hyperdeveloped quality not only didn't drag him down, but actually made him great and famous, so much so that people called him "genius", how can it be "too much"? He's a cripple only in the sense that his other qualities are subpar.
This is me. I identified as a nerd through my entire life, but my cope wasn't thinking that I was better than other people, rather that I would simply blossom as a natural Chad later in life. Cue college graduation, my social skills actually degraded and I was at a low point. I decided to change myself and go into software sales to put me in the line of fire of self improvement.
@@kanutaro3426 lol, not that it matters much but since then I'm an Account Executive with a six figure salary with a circle of friends that I met through church. I'm out on the town every Friday night and my next goals are to lose weight and find a girlfriend
Idk for me nerds just mean liking computers or sciency stuff, that doesn't stop me from doing a lot of sport, socializing and trying to be better at everything not necessarily related to computers or science
He talks about a specific kind of nerd ... and if one of those actually stumbles upon this video (because of the clickbait title) - it may lead him to some kind of a self-realisation (which is always good IMO).
@@legitt6093 Yeah i guess, i see what he meant though, like the stereotypical nerd but actually most 'nerd' i know aren't that much like the stereotype even though some are There are also the ones that calls themselves nerds like if they were proud of that and that generally dosen't even mean that they are competant Kinda like 'otakus' that calls themselves as such even though it is suposed to be pejorative ^
@@0M9H4X_Neckbeard I did. And I agree with several of his points. I just found the sentence hilarious after his sermon about how to live your life and his generally condescending attitude towards nerds and gamers, even if it's out of context.
4:04 is the best argument against becoming the type of person Luke is talking about. Everyone should experience lots of different things to improve their individual passions. This is a very helpful video. Kudos.
So here's the problem with nerds. They label themselves incorrectly. This is how I would categorize the meanings of these labels: Geek: A person who's somewhat normal, midrange in social skills, who happens to like a few aspects of technology. I've met a few of these guys: Married, 2 kids, but they love Linux, for example. Nerd: A person who's embraced technologies, and has a harder time with social skills, but not completely devoid of it. These types make up the lack of social skills by having phenomenal technical skills. These are the guys that know everything about everything to do with tech or science. They can usually get jobs relatively easy, since they have a lot of choices due to their knowledge. Dweebs: These are the types that call themselves "Nerds" but really aren't. They have no idea what a capacitor or an inductor is. They have no idea even how to install and configure Linux (or sometimes even Windows is a mystery to them). They don't know what the difference between a CPU or GPU is. They have no idea what E=MC2 is. But what they know inside out, is Star Wars and Dr. Who. They can tell you how old the sarlacc pit is, or how many rivets Luke's lightsaber has. They have zero hope of ever finding a woman, unless they get lucky and find a dweeby one like themselves. You find them all over the place on UA-cam "pop culture" livestreams, calling themselves "Nerds"
So what label would we correct for someone who has an interest in linguistics and spends a lot of time in linguistics. Would that be a geek or nerd or even a dweeb?
@@the-bruh.cum5 I would say it depends on the reason. If someone wants to learn French because it's a cool language, and they want to visit famous French locations and speak fluently to the natives, that's a reasonable goal. If they learn a few words, enough to say "I need to go to the toilet" "I am hungry" "where is the hotel"? = Geek If they take 2-3 months to hammer it out and learn it fluently enough to have conversations = Nerd. Now what about the weebos? They like Japanese because, hey they are seriously into anime and they think Japanese girls are hot. If they learn a few words? = dweeb If they get conversational = still dweeb but also approaching geek If they get very proficient? = Nerd. The reason is still dweeby, but if you can master a hard language like that, props, whatever your reason was. Now there are ultra dweebs that may learn how to speak perfect Klingon, or some esoteric SW dialect. = Dweeeeeb. Putting all that effort into something that will be 100% useless to your real life. Hell if you learn Japanese advanced enough, you have opportunities to make good money and even find that "hot Japanese chick" you want.
@@apreviousseagle836 I mean I'm the type of person to like linguistics As a study maybe get into language learning and I'm also into constructed languages. Klingon is the worst example of a constructed language I'm getting the feeling that constructed languages is dweeby
@@apreviousseagle836 tbh Languages to me is like video games for other people. I guess if they are useless so be it if they are useful I'm fine with that too.
I've specialized myself in computers and technology, probably because of my autism. I never had a reason to. I didn't do it because I "wanted to be different from the normies". I just did it without being aware of it. Ever since I was 4, since touching a computer, I've been specializing in it for no reason. I just did. It's a hobby of mine, and I never had intentions to specialize in order to be better than anyone else. Still, thanks for the message. I will probably continue to be socially awkward, welp.
Same, while for me it's partially brought on by ADHD, I'm not interested in technology because I think it makes me automatically smarter than everyone else, I'm interested because it's what interests me. Naturally grow that interest for awhile and it becomes a hobby, a passion, and perhaps a profession.
Dude this problem is prevelant everywhere and really happens more with those who consider themselves "jocks". I agree as far as the success/smoking weed and anime thing but people in general just put themselves in a bubble. In my experience it is usually less daunting for a nerd to get more athletic than a "jock" to pick up a nerdy skill but that's all relative
Sad to say I used to hang out with such people (like half of my friends were nerds). I did not know, why I do not feel comfortable among them sometimes. Now I know and You have said it laud really nicely.
2 years late, but they aren't. They are actually equal to nerds in regards to hyperspecialization. The nerd feels special for having diligence for what they chose to hyperspecialize in; the normies just wind up hyperspecializing because they are wagecucks.
No matter how good you get at any one thing, someone who knows how to make friends will likely have the tools to catch up to you much faster than you could ever do anything alone.
Luke smith... or anyone reading this comment. Thank you for being 1 out of a couple youtube posters who have helped me from my delusion i have been self aware and wanting to fix myself always but still being deluded i hope to be a real life living person and not an internet person. All the people i would talk to online would keep me on the internet i would ask them... should i go outside today? and they say,,, theres nothing special out there.... dont leave us.... i just realised they dont care for me or themselves aaaa
So true! This world seems to hate strength and competence, especially if you are strong and competent at the same time. Heaven forbid you are also intelligent.
Since when is it a necessary condition that nerds decide to avoid forms of self-improvement outside of a field they are passionate about, and be unable to accept criticism within that field? I can believe people like that exist, but I'm unconvinced that all nerds are like that. And you can still want to be best at something and accept criticism or input that reveals your own lack of knowledge. It takes some humility to do it, but if you really want to be the best, or even just great at it, then you have realise that you have to accept those blows to your ego.
This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm a nerd, I guess. I like music and computer stuff, and spend most of my days learning that stuff. I've been feeling really down on myself thinking I gotta figure out how to balance my passions instead of just enjoying them for how they make me feel good :)
I'd say I'm a nerd. But not nerding out about a specific topic. I just love specialising, optimizing and having fun. Anything I touch I try to master, learn about the details and complex stuff, optimize and customize. It's just fun.
I guess when I started my college career I was basically a swimming nerd by this definition, I didn't know how to do anything else but you bet your ass I was good at swimming. I quickly sobered up and got into more traditionally nerdy subjects like computers, programming and electronics as well as some not so nerdy subjects like business and economics. But that allowed me to have a broad horizon for jobs and I can confidently do my job while running my own business on the side.
So, TL;DW is 'a nerd is a person who specializes in some topic and cant accept criticism in that domain'? I dont think so. Maybe the first portion of the sentence, but there are a LOT of ppl who like to have discussions about the stuff they like(they specialized in), and who like to just talk about that thing. So, interesting video, but nah
Man I gotta say I really appreciate your content. Your channel got me way more into arch because you showed me what you can do with it. This video took me by surprise, but I'm glad you made it as I feel a lot of people, including myself, get to that form of nerd. Linguistics has seemed intriguing after a class this semester. Would you suggest any starting material?
Holy fuck! I had a discussion a few days ago with some IT&C guys and I voiced that I consider nerds are destroying the world because they hyperspecialize in some silly stuff like a damn animal that only knows only one trick. I though I was alone in the world with this opinion.
Some wise points. But I think the advice "be good at everything you touch" isn't realistic for most people. Many (especially those on the spectrum) have quite a limited range of natural interests, and mastering activities that they have zero interest for (not even speaking of ability) would be just too tiring to work. Of course they should develop social skills and physique at least to the average level, so that it doesn't hurt to stand or talk to people. But for jobs and hobbies, I think, a more realistic life advice for these people would be: be good at more that one thing.
I guess the problem with nerds therefore is not that they focus more of their effort on some particular side of their development that on rest, it's that they completely abandon all other sides, hoping that being masters in one thing will compensate their shortcomings in others (which it won't, these shortcomings will keep harming them).
When you were partying, I studied the blade. When you were having premarital sex, I mastered the blockchain. While you wasted your days at the gym in pursuit of vanity, I cultivated inner strength. And now that the world is on fire and the barbarians are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help?
This hits too close to home, but that's ok. I'd like to think I grew out of the need to prove how different I am (aka hipsterism), but eschewing Windows and obsessing about Linux is exactly a way to craft this unique identity. Perhaps many of us have chip on our shoulder and feel the need to prove our intelligence through obscurity. God forbid someone is naturally athletic and smart; then we can't say they're just one-dimensional idiot jocks with no future beyond high school sports. Excellent thoughts, Luke.
Man, that part about the jocks and normies still getting the good jobs hits hard. I actually know people who are absolute shit at programming and got better jobs or got a job sooner than I did because they had connections, while I had to do it based on merit alone.
Specialization is where the money's at. If your making enough, expand your horizons, if your not making enough money, then specialize more or pick a better area to specialize in.
I almost feel like people use the term nerd differently. I do agree with a lot the stuff you talked about even though I consider myself to be a “nerd”. I totally admit that I may exhibit some of the things you state to some extent, but thankfully I do have some drive to improve myself. People should be willing to accept criticism, including myself.
The problem with people like that from my experience is they had nobody to tell them how to not run away or how to try and be strong etc. You arent born with foreknowledge of that stuff. Our parents were either working most of the day or just werent fit to be a parent and know that they have to teach these things to their kids. Im not trying to shift blame or anything im just pointing out a situation that its basically a non-win scenario. And when you learn about all this you are already 30 years old living with your parents and depending on your country and circumstances it may be hard to get out of it.
I really need to good into the weeds with some things, like in terms of skills I have like, a decent slice and everyday it's expanding a bit, but this slice is like an actual slice of the pie and the area only take up a specific region, I gotta try some more stuff thanks Luke
Fair point but why specifically nerds though. I have a lot of knowledge on a lot of topics and love learning about anything and everything. Yet I still call myself a nerd. Because I like a lot of nerd stuff and know a lot about a lot of nerd stuff. Also I dont hate fit people. Hell I think more people (including myself) should workout more. So yeah, the nerds you describe is not the view of nerds that I have or have seen
As a software developer who has spent decades with nerds....this video is pretty spot on. My main issue is a lot of it is "running away". I'm not good at this so...I will run away from it, and at the same time belittle it. "It" can be anything such as... sports, normal socializing, conversation....etc
Breadth over depth and be proud of it! But seriously that's a message that always seemed to make sense to me but I've never heard it celebrated. Another is trying not to be surprised by anything. If a particular event causes cognitive dissonance, try updating the cause and effect model in your mind so you won't be surprised next time. Truly Bayesian Nirvana.
I also often think, it's difficult to talk about normal topics. And when talking about „normal“ topics, I often have a different opinion. Basically I'm only good at talking about programming stuff (linux, hardware, programming languages), science (math, physics), media (videogames, movies), politics, maybe some spiritual stuff, but I'm not sure, what „normal“ people talk about.
I identify as a nerd but not in the zoomers gen sense . For me I'm a nerd in my field and I pride myself on the ability of flexibility compared to some of my peers. Historically nerds have been people who know alot about of alot of stuff. Now days all these pseudointellectuals and pseudo computer nerds roll in claiming they're good at something , where even that thing they are good at , they suck ... If you want to go into the software development world , the first thing you need to learn , is humility . You need to accept there are smarter people , your solutions aren't perfect , and you do whatever it takes to finish a job. Also , people should be really open about learning other things . I don't just pick up software development stuff , alot of times I consume maths and physics related topics outside of my domain . As that also helps me to make decisions . I look at politics and history to always stay informed so I can atleast be proactive about how I approach my daily job rather than reactive . That was alot of siderambling but that's my 2c on nerds in the computing field. Just make sure you learn alot of things , always eager to try out experiences outside of your domain .
I find the idea that a Nerd specializes in one thing interesting. I kind of have a different problem of I am that person who is the jack of all trades master of none type of person
First time heard this thought i always had in my mind clearly expressed. My question is: how to navigate an industry with high nerd density? Change line of work? A primer on nerd managment would be appreciated. Good channel.
very good video, man and, btw, economy and technology change too fast now, so if one wants to stay in a trend he/she has to try out new stuff all the time. certain technologies, industries, jobs go down and others come up. everything changes too fast and too radically, so nerds' approach today becomes even less viable than it used to be p.s. that's difficult not to think of someone as a nerd when one tends to look a particular way:)
This is how doctors in the US are. My mom is from Eastern Europe and she complains that doctors here are less likely to have a solid general knowledge of what makes a person healthy, they're more likely to specialize in some ultra-specific part of the body or some specific approach to medicine, and not be interested in anything else. It seems like the nerd mindset is ruining many professional occupations.
Dude. I think you got scared watching "Revenge of the nerds"
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Now what I don't like about this video is that you make it sound like if people get bullied, they should self improve because there's usually something wrong with them. I don't think that the problems that some nerds have that you mention in this video, are the actual reasons why people get bullied. I have been in a bully-school for some years and it works like a system where you must make your self-esteem dependent on your status. If you are self confident by yourself, have a genuine smile or inner happiness and sometimes are a little cheeky and call out things you don't agree with and - most importantly - don't show interest in giving your self a good name in terms of the system, these are exactly the type of people targeted by bullies. Seperating yourself from others doesn't mean that you look for self-esteem in unhealthy ways like specialisation. It can mean that you are in a unhealthy environment and have your high moral principles that you don't want to violate which is actually good.
In short, do what you love, not what you think will get you attention. Are you into Linux or whatever for love, or because you want to avoid competition by being a big fish in a small pond ? Do you work on this things in your spare time, or only when someone's watching?
The people who are really "nerds" here are the ones (honestly myself included) who are of only marginally over average intelligence, and that claim one stakes isn't so much about egoism, but rather overspecializing in a desperate attempt to be useful in a world where white collar work has died.
Chad Thundercock steals your geeky gf, bicep curls 100 kg on reps, and is a better Unix manager than any nerd.
You’re not chad thundercock. A fictional idea created by retarded people on /r9k/.
the real reason this was filmed in the woods: luke didnt want to be seen dabbing in public.
Thank you for your wisdom, Vladimir Lenin.
"I'm a walrus"
Whoosh
@@Egzvorg *SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY, RRREEEEEEEE!!!!*
The resemblance is uncanny
Brother please stop being a femboy
Chad Adaptability vs the Virgin HyperSpecialization
True shit. It’s how we survived as early hunter-gatherers. It checks out.
Most people rejected his message.
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
This video is an eye opener for me.
@Golden Knight nice bait.
@Golden Knight Ummmm... Not going to debate the man vs myth, but even atheist scholars believe the man existed. I love watching booger eaters trip on their own bottom lip though, appreciate that 😂🤣
@Golden Knight perhaps you can name a couple, and point us to their research? Since you're such a grace to the IQ pool 😂🤣 And, who said I was religious?
@Golden Knight Robert Eisenman, Bart Ehrman, J.D. Crossan as a few. Dillahunty moderated a debate between Ehrman and Bob price for reference... Reza Aslan even wrote a book on the historical Jesus, and has little stake in Christianity, as he's a Muslim.
For good measure, here's dillahunty himself, telling you what the bulk of scholarship thinks on this topic.
ua-cam.com/video/9gPlZviMHvc/v-deo.html
And the angel said, "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!" But lo, he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands.
In my university there were STEM students with a "I work out at the library" mindset who unironically believed being geeky meant they were incapable of being physically fit. I even saw a guy use his "nerdiness" as justification for being unable to cook anything besides eggs...
It's baloney cause the one guy in my university who looked the most like a DBZ character brought to real life was a Physics major.
Physical fitness can improve blood flow to the brain and help with memory generation and retention.
You have to cultivate mind, body, and soul. No chair can stand on less than three legs.
Pretty much the only things we KNOW can make you smarter and help keep your smarts... is nutrition and exercise.
physicla fitness literally improves mental performance lol, using all your time points on one skill is retarded, everyone should be fit AND smart, no reason not to
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@@didacusa3293 Why is it fewer not less?
bald man declares war on otakus
get dem cannons ready, we got a war coming up
Florida man
\*Reads freakonomics once* Be me Economist.
\*Wikipedias Noam Chomsky* Be me Linguist.
\*Watches this video* Be me Chad.
Tbh the psychology behind all this is really fascinating. I myself was into this "I was bullied all the time because I am special/better than others." sort of thing. Of course it is a sad story behind it and quite often the person who gets bullied (initially!) a lot is not even particularly to blame for being bullied. However I learned that *I* *am* indeed to blame for clinging/holding onto this old, bad and cheap coping mechanism. Because it is extremely narcissistic and ego-centric, in short: self-pity. At first it is a coping mechanism to deal with certain amounts of pain through bullying. But when the bullies are long gone, this dysfunctional mechanism is still inside of you and in the very end this mechanism will ruin your life, and not so much the initial experience of being bullied. All this "I will prove something to the world" (from EELS' "Bus Stop Boxer"), all this I will become the next Cuckerberg and so on. Break free from all of this. Self-Improvement. Aim for becoming chad. That is what the bullies alienated you from. But most often this development is still possible for you. It's *not* healthy to stay alienated from your inner-chad side. Being a "nerd" is no accomplishment at all. PS: Your passion for tech is ok. Heck, I just reinstalled my Linux system as of writing this. But do NOT make it the only center of your life and relationships! [my English is not native in any way. hope you still got along reading my comment.]
That dabbing caught me out of guard lmao
I was captain of my Football, Wrestling and Track teams
and I use Arch.
u mad nerds?
American football or normal football?
No because I was captain of sex with your mother
Iron pilled. Is a heroin addict just a nerd who have chosen to specialize in heroin?
D E E P
LMAO
Sounds like you're just against antisocialism, and superiority complexes.
Also all hail the elevator repairmen
Luke is slowly giving me woke pills
I think me too
Imagine seeing one guy talking about nerds in forest while you are collecting blueberries or something.
Holy shit Luke. I almost choked to death with this red pill man. Don't do this ever again.
that dab changed my life
Jesus Christ... That dab genuinely scared me...
Nietzsche BTFOd nerds, even the ones that achieved fame and fortune as they may do in todays economy, long before the term even existed. They are cripples in reverse.
"And when I came out of my solitude, and for the first time passed over this bridge, then I could not trust mine eyes, but looked again and again, and said at last: “That is an ear! An ear as big as a man!” I looked still more attentively-and actually there did move under the ear something that was pitiably small and poor and slim. And in truth this immense ear was perched on a small thin stalk-the stalk, however, was a man! A person putting a glass to his eyes, could even recognise further a small envious countenance, and also that a bloated soullet dangled at the stalk. The people told me, however, that the big ear was not only a man, but a great man, a genius. But I never believed in the people when they spoke of great men-and I hold to my belief that it was a reversed cripple, who had too little of everything, and too much of one thing." - Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Counterpoint from Nietzsche:
“Almost always the books of scholars are somehow oppressive, oppressed: the “specialist” emerges somewhere-his zeal, his seriousness, his fury, his overestimation of the nook in which he sits and spins, his hunched back; every specialist has his hunched back. Every scholarly book also mirrors a soul that has become crooked; every craft makes crooked.…Nothing can be done about that. Let nobody suppose that one could possibly avoid such crippling by some artifice of education. On this earth one pays dearly for every kind of mastery.…For having a specialty one pays by also being the victim of this specialty. But you would have it otherwise-cheaper and fairer and above all more comfortable-isn’t that right, my dear contemporaries. Well then, but in that case you also immediately get something else: instead of the craftsman and master, the “man of letters,” the dexterous, “polydexterous” man of letters who, to be sure, lacks the hunched back-not counting the posture he assumes before you, being the salesman of the spirit and the “carrier” of culture-the man of letters who really is nothing but “represents” almost everything, playing and “substituting” for the expert, and taking it upon himself in all modesty to get himself paid, honored, and celebrated in place of the expert.
No, my scholarly friends, I bless you even for your hunched back. And for despising, as I do, the “men of letters” and culture parasites. And for not knowing how to make a business of the spirit. And for having opinions that cannot be translated into financial values. And for not representing anything that you are not. And because your sole aim is to become masters of your craft, with reverence for every kind of mastery and competence, and with uncompromising opposition to everything that is semblance, half-genuine, dressed up, virtuosolike, demagogical, or histrionic in litteris et artibus-to everything that cannot prove to you its unconditional probity in discipline and prior training, [The Gay Science, sec. 366]”
I disagree with him. "Too much of one thing"... I'm pretty sure "too much" is when there's so much of something that it actually impedes you and causes harm. If a man's hyperdeveloped quality not only didn't drag him down, but actually made him great and famous, so much so that people called him "genius", how can it be "too much"? He's a cripple only in the sense that his other qualities are subpar.
@@htth3152 That's the point.
This is me. I identified as a nerd through my entire life, but my cope wasn't thinking that I was better than other people, rather that I would simply blossom as a natural Chad later in life. Cue college graduation, my social skills actually degraded and I was at a low point. I decided to change myself and go into software sales to put me in the line of fire of self improvement.
So, how did that work out?
Classic "I will improve" UA-cam comment that ends up having no follow-up/update
@@kanutaro3426 lol, not that it matters much but since then I'm an Account Executive with a six figure salary with a circle of friends that I met through church. I'm out on the town every Friday night and my next goals are to lose weight and find a girlfriend
Dang, software sales huh. That's straight up running into a bullet, but also perhaps one of the fastest ways to improve yourself
8:14 - "It's not good to specialize in one particular thing,"
So the Unix philosophy isn't applicable to life? :^)
Machines aren't humans though.
@@TehKorwinMikke And they don't have stdin and stdout...
life is bloated
Art thou a 🤖 designed for only a single purpose?
Idk for me nerds just mean liking computers or sciency stuff, that doesn't stop me from doing a lot of sport, socializing and trying to be better at everything not necessarily related to computers or science
same
He talks about a specific kind of nerd ... and if one of those actually stumbles upon this video (because of the clickbait title) - it may lead him to some kind of a self-realisation (which is always good IMO).
@@legitt6093 Yeah i guess, i see what he meant though, like the stereotypical nerd
but actually most 'nerd' i know aren't that much like the stereotype even though some are
There are also the ones that calls themselves nerds like if they were proud of that and that generally dosen't even mean that they are competant
Kinda like 'otakus' that calls themselves as such even though it is suposed to be pejorative ^
No, that definition is an attempt to normalize the nerd and make his pathological culture more acceptable to the rest of society.
@@person800 Just read my last comment ^
>anon thinks he is chad
This video really made realize how I wasted my life until now being a nerd
did you stop being a nerd?
@@memyself4852 he died in a car accident
@@juliansoto2651 damn, RIP if that's true. Hope he managed to enjoy his remaining time.
@@memyself4852 nah im just kidding, I dont even know him lol but I hope hes ok
@@juliansoto2651 lmao
I'm glad that i realised how stupid i was being a nerd
The Virgin Nerd
The Chad Polymath
this
"Competence is compounding." - Luke Smith, 2018
**pastes into high intelect quote list**
'To be in a good psychological state would be to just not evaluate other people', he says after evaluating other people for 11 minutes. Oo
That's not what he did, maybe you should listen to the sentences he said right after that. 0/10 meme
@@0M9H4X_Neckbeard I did. And I agree with several of his points. I just found the sentence hilarious after his sermon about how to live your life and his generally condescending attitude towards nerds and gamers, even if it's out of context.
Nerds are *not* people
"The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.” - Thucydides
4:04 is the best argument against becoming the type of person Luke is talking about. Everyone should experience lots of different things to improve their individual passions. This is a very helpful video. Kudos.
So here's the problem with nerds. They label themselves incorrectly. This is how I would categorize the meanings of these labels:
Geek: A person who's somewhat normal, midrange in social skills, who happens to like a few aspects of technology. I've met a few of these guys: Married, 2 kids, but they love Linux, for example.
Nerd: A person who's embraced technologies, and has a harder time with social skills, but not completely devoid of it. These types make up the lack of social skills by having phenomenal technical skills. These are the guys that know everything about everything to do with tech or science. They can usually get jobs relatively easy, since they have a lot of choices due to their knowledge.
Dweebs: These are the types that call themselves "Nerds" but really aren't. They have no idea what a capacitor or an inductor is. They have no idea even how to install and configure Linux (or sometimes even Windows is a mystery to them). They don't know what the difference between a CPU or GPU is. They have no idea what E=MC2 is.
But what they know inside out, is Star Wars and Dr. Who. They can tell you how old the sarlacc pit is, or how many rivets Luke's lightsaber has. They have zero hope of ever finding a woman, unless they get lucky and find a dweeby one like themselves. You find them all over the place on UA-cam "pop culture" livestreams, calling themselves "Nerds"
So what label would we correct for someone who has an interest in linguistics and spends a lot of time in linguistics. Would that be a geek or nerd
or even a dweeb?
@@the-bruh.cum5 I would say it depends on the reason.
If someone wants to learn French because it's a cool language, and they want to visit famous French locations and speak fluently to the natives, that's a reasonable goal. If they learn a few words, enough to say "I need to go to the toilet" "I am hungry" "where is the hotel"? = Geek
If they take 2-3 months to hammer it out and learn it fluently enough to have conversations = Nerd.
Now what about the weebos? They like Japanese because, hey they are seriously into anime and they think Japanese girls are hot. If they learn a few words? = dweeb
If they get conversational = still dweeb but also approaching geek
If they get very proficient? = Nerd. The reason is still dweeby, but if you can master a hard language like that, props, whatever your reason was.
Now there are ultra dweebs that may learn how to speak perfect Klingon, or some esoteric SW dialect. = Dweeeeeb. Putting all that effort into something that will be 100% useless to your real life.
Hell if you learn Japanese advanced enough, you have opportunities to make good money and even find that "hot Japanese chick" you want.
@@apreviousseagle836 I mean I'm the type of person to like linguistics
As a study maybe get into language learning and I'm also into constructed languages.
Klingon is the worst example of a constructed language I'm getting the feeling that constructed languages is dweeby
@@the-bruh.cum5 I think the desire to learn languages is a good thing. But to what end? Is there a useful goal at the end of the effort?
@@apreviousseagle836 tbh
Languages to me is like video games for other people. I guess if they are useless so be it if they are useful I'm fine with that too.
So basically you're mad at irl min-maxers.
I've specialized myself in computers and technology, probably because of my autism. I never had a reason to. I didn't do it because I "wanted to be different from the normies". I just did it without being aware of it. Ever since I was 4, since touching a computer, I've been specializing in it for no reason. I just did. It's a hobby of mine, and I never had intentions to specialize in order to be better than anyone else.
Still, thanks for the message. I will probably continue to be socially awkward, welp.
Same, while for me it's partially brought on by ADHD, I'm not interested in technology because I think it makes me automatically smarter than everyone else, I'm interested because it's what interests me. Naturally grow that interest for awhile and it becomes a hobby, a passion, and perhaps a profession.
Dude this problem is prevelant everywhere and really happens more with those who consider themselves "jocks". I agree as far as the success/smoking weed and anime thing but people in general just put themselves in a bubble. In my experience it is usually less daunting for a nerd to get more athletic than a "jock" to pick up a nerdy skill but that's all relative
Sad to say I used to hang out with such people (like half of my friends were nerds). I did not know, why I do not feel comfortable among them sometimes. Now I know and You have said it laud really nicely.
Normies are in no way better. Strive for polymathy.
STOP STEALING VERONICA, LUKE. NERDS RISE UP
Gosh... turns out Luke is C H A D!
its almost like normal people are multi-faceted or something
2 years late, but they aren't. They are actually equal to nerds in regards to hyperspecialization. The nerd feels special for having diligence for what they chose to hyperspecialize in; the normies just wind up hyperspecializing because they are wagecucks.
found this 2 years later and i agree
there is no reason why you can't specialize in everything you touch.
No matter how good you get at any one thing, someone who knows how to make friends will likely have the tools to catch up to you much faster than you could ever do anything alone.
luke smith is coherent terry davis (pbuh)
YOU HIT THEM WITH YOUR CAR, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO
Dude, you've got a shortcut to the latin wikipedia in your vim-based webbrowser.
Stop projecting senpai
:D
How do I escape my autism?
Don't watch this trash.
Be you.
Don't worry.
Try a bit.
Don't watch this trash.
Jango1989 How is he wrong?
Luke smith... or anyone reading this comment. Thank you for being 1 out of a couple youtube posters who have helped me from my delusion i have been self aware and wanting to fix myself always but still being deluded i hope to be a real life living person and not an internet person. All the people i would talk to online would keep me on the internet i would ask them... should i go outside today? and they say,,, theres nothing special out there.... dont leave us.... i just realised they dont care for me or themselves aaaa
So true! This world seems to hate strength and competence, especially if you are strong and competent at the same time. Heaven forbid you are also intelligent.
Since when is it a necessary condition that nerds decide to avoid forms of self-improvement outside of a field they are passionate about, and be unable to accept criticism within that field?
I can believe people like that exist, but I'm unconvinced that all nerds are like that.
And you can still want to be best at something and accept criticism or input that reveals your own lack of knowledge. It takes some humility to do it, but if you really want to be the best, or even just great at it, then you have realise that you have to accept those blows to your ego.
This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm a nerd, I guess. I like music and computer stuff, and spend most of my days learning that stuff. I've been feeling really down on myself thinking I gotta figure out how to balance my passions instead of just enjoying them for how they make me feel good :)
I'd say I'm a nerd. But not nerding out about a specific topic. I just love specialising, optimizing and having fun. Anything I touch I try to master, learn about the details and complex stuff, optimize and customize. It's just fun.
I guess when I started my college career I was basically a swimming nerd by this definition, I didn't know how to do anything else but you bet your ass I was good at swimming. I quickly sobered up and got into more traditionally nerdy subjects like computers, programming and electronics as well as some not so nerdy subjects like business and economics. But that allowed me to have a broad horizon for jobs and I can confidently do my job while running my own business on the side.
So, TL;DW is 'a nerd is a person who specializes in some topic and cant accept criticism in that domain'? I dont think so. Maybe the first portion of the sentence, but there are a LOT of ppl who like to have discussions about the stuff they like(they specialized in), and who like to just talk about that thing. So, interesting video, but nah
Man I gotta say I really appreciate your content. Your channel got me way more into arch because you showed me what you can do with it. This video took me by surprise, but I'm glad you made it as I feel a lot of people, including myself, get to that form of nerd. Linguistics has seemed intriguing after a class this semester. Would you suggest any starting material?
Holy fuck! I had a discussion a few days ago with some IT&C guys and I voiced that I consider nerds are destroying the world because they hyperspecialize in some silly stuff like a damn animal that only knows only one trick. I though I was alone in the world with this opinion.
Some wise points. But I think the advice "be good at everything you touch" isn't realistic for most people. Many (especially those on the spectrum) have quite a limited range of natural interests, and mastering activities that they have zero interest for (not even speaking of ability) would be just too tiring to work. Of course they should develop social skills and physique at least to the average level, so that it doesn't hurt to stand or talk to people. But for jobs and hobbies, I think, a more realistic life advice for these people would be: be good at more that one thing.
I guess the problem with nerds therefore is not that they focus more of their effort on some particular side of their development that on rest, it's that they completely abandon all other sides, hoping that being masters in one thing will compensate their shortcomings in others (which it won't, these shortcomings will keep harming them).
Indeed, nerds (and people in general) should accept flaws in their personality and work on improving them.
When you were partying, I studied the blade.
When you were having premarital sex, I mastered the blockchain.
While you wasted your days at the gym in pursuit of vanity, I cultivated inner strength.
And now that the world is on fire and the barbarians are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help?
This hits too close to home, but that's ok. I'd like to think I grew out of the need to prove how different I am (aka hipsterism), but eschewing Windows and obsessing about Linux is exactly a way to craft this unique identity. Perhaps many of us have chip on our shoulder and feel the need to prove our intelligence through obscurity. God forbid someone is naturally athletic and smart; then we can't say they're just one-dimensional idiot jocks with no future beyond high school sports. Excellent thoughts, Luke.
The Chad Luke VS The Virgin Nerd
"In order to understand why I am against nerds, we need to dive into psychology of nerds" - now that's a pretty nerdy way to approach this 😉
Man, that part about the jocks and normies still getting the good jobs hits hard. I actually know people who are absolute shit at programming and got better jobs or got a job sooner than I did because they had connections, while I had to do it based on merit alone.
Specialization is where the money's at. If your making enough, expand your horizons, if your not making enough money, then specialize more or pick a better area to specialize in.
Specialization, the nerd never stops to rethink, whether his wit flourishes because or despite of it.
I dont usually comment on youtube, but you accuratelly described me, imma try to change smthng
I almost feel like people use the term nerd differently. I do agree with a lot the stuff you talked about even though I consider myself to be a “nerd”. I totally admit that I may exhibit some of the things you state to some extent, but thankfully I do have some drive to improve myself. People should be willing to accept criticism, including myself.
The problem with people like that from my experience is they had nobody to tell them how to not run away or how to try and be strong etc. You arent born with foreknowledge of that stuff. Our parents were either working most of the day or just werent fit to be a parent and know that they have to teach these things to their kids. Im not trying to shift blame or anything im just pointing out a situation that its basically a non-win scenario. And when you learn about all this you are already 30 years old living with your parents and depending on your country and circumstances it may be hard to get out of it.
I really need to good into the weeds with some things, like in terms of skills I have like, a decent slice and everyday it's expanding a bit, but this slice is like an actual slice of the pie and the area only take up a specific region, I gotta try some more stuff thanks Luke
Luke looks like Lenin
"The intelligentsia is not the brain of the nation, it is its faeces." - Lenin
What version of universe is this that Luke dabs on the haters?
*dabs*
Fair point but why specifically nerds though. I have a lot of knowledge on a lot of topics and love learning about anything and everything. Yet I still call myself a nerd. Because I like a lot of nerd stuff and know a lot about a lot of nerd stuff. Also I dont hate fit people. Hell I think more people (including myself) should workout more. So yeah, the nerds you describe is not the view of nerds that I have or have seen
I don't know Luke, it takes one to know one, and you seem to have a lot of info on the topic
Loving this stuff. When's the manifesto coming out my dude
Virgin nerd vs CHAD polymath
This video convinced me to turn on channel notifications for you. Thanks for the great and original content
As a software developer who has spent decades with nerds....this video is pretty spot on.
My main issue is a lot of it is "running away". I'm not good at this so...I will run away from it, and at the same time belittle it.
"It" can be anything such as... sports, normal socializing, conversation....etc
did a nerd hurt you? poor archuser
Some of these hyper specialised people are important to progressing various aspects of humanity... You can still dab on them though.
Mr super human chad, is one of your nosepads pointing forwards all video long?
Breadth over depth and be proud of it! But seriously that's a message that always seemed to make sense to me but I've never heard it celebrated. Another is trying not to be surprised by anything. If a particular event causes cognitive dissonance, try updating the cause and effect model in your mind so you won't be surprised next time. Truly Bayesian Nirvana.
I also often think, it's difficult to talk about normal topics.
And when talking about „normal“ topics, I often have a different opinion.
Basically I'm only good at talking about programming stuff (linux, hardware, programming languages), science (math, physics), media (videogames, movies), politics, maybe some spiritual stuff, but I'm not sure, what „normal“ people talk about.
why are the captions auto generated for Dutch? )))
The Revolt of the Normie Masses
Always go in a conversation with a person assuming they know something you dont know yet.
I identify as a nerd but not in the zoomers gen sense . For me I'm a nerd in my field and I pride myself on the ability of flexibility compared to some of my peers. Historically nerds have been people who know alot about of alot of stuff.
Now days all these pseudointellectuals and pseudo computer nerds roll in claiming they're good at something , where even that thing they are good at , they suck ...
If you want to go into the software development world , the first thing you need to learn , is humility . You need to accept there are smarter people , your solutions aren't perfect , and you do whatever it takes to finish a job. Also , people should be really open about learning other things . I don't just pick up software development stuff , alot of times I consume maths and physics related topics outside of my domain . As that also helps me to make decisions . I look at politics and history to always stay informed so I can atleast be proactive about how I approach my daily job rather than reactive .
That was alot of siderambling but that's my 2c on nerds in the computing field. Just make sure you learn alot of things , always eager to try out experiences outside of your domain .
*glasses teleports on*
I find the idea that a Nerd specializes in one thing interesting. I kind of have a different problem of I am that person who is the jack of all trades master of none type of person
First time heard this thought i always had in my mind clearly expressed. My question is: how to navigate an industry with high nerd density?
Change line of work?
A primer on nerd managment would be appreciated.
Good channel.
Luke "Stuff Like That" Smith
Nerds are more dangerous than jocks.
very good video, man
and, btw, economy and technology change too fast now, so if one wants to stay in a trend he/she has to try out new stuff all the time. certain technologies, industries, jobs go down and others come up. everything changes too fast and too radically, so nerds' approach today becomes even less viable than it used to be
p.s. that's difficult not to think of someone as a nerd when one tends to look a particular way:)
I just got called out and now my soul is now in a perpetual swirly.
This is how doctors in the US are. My mom is from Eastern Europe and she complains that doctors here are less likely to have a solid general knowledge of what makes a person healthy, they're more likely to specialize in some ultra-specific part of the body or some specific approach to medicine, and not be interested in anything else. It seems like the nerd mindset is ruining many professional occupations.
That's because specialists make better salaries in medicine
Thanks, I never really noticed this about myself
"To be a nerd means specialization"
Is that even true? Never heard of that before, nor do I think I'll hear of it again after.
Dude. I think you got scared watching "Revenge of the nerds"
Now what I don't like about this video is that you make it sound like if people get bullied, they should self improve because there's usually something wrong with them. I don't think that the problems that some nerds have that you mention in this video, are the actual reasons why people get bullied. I have been in a bully-school for some years and it works like a system where you must make your self-esteem dependent on your status. If you are self confident by yourself, have a genuine smile or inner happiness and sometimes are a little cheeky and call out things you don't agree with and - most importantly - don't show interest in giving your self a good name in terms of the system, these are exactly the type of people targeted by bullies.
Seperating yourself from others doesn't mean that you look for self-esteem in unhealthy ways like specialisation. It can mean that you are in a unhealthy environment and have your high moral principles that you don't want to violate which is actually good.
In short, do what you love, not what you think will get you attention. Are you into Linux or whatever for love, or because you want to avoid competition by being a big fish in a small pond ? Do you work on this things in your spare time, or only when someone's watching?
You should be on JRE bro :)
This comment deserves more attention
The people who are really "nerds" here are the ones (honestly myself included) who are of only marginally over average intelligence, and that claim one stakes isn't so much about egoism, but rather overspecializing in a desperate attempt to be useful in a world where white collar work has died.
Overspecialize and you breed in weakness.