TALGO Gauge Change Facility in Action
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2007
- S-130 of Renfe passes thru the gauge change facility in Rado. This clip demonstrates how a high speed train changes from the old broad gauge tracks (1668 mm) to the new standard gauge high speed tracks (1435 mm). With the gauge change there is also a change of the catenary system from 3000 V DC to 25'000 V AC. The train was built by Talgo in co-operation with Bombardier.
Talgo gauge change system:
Each wheel is sitting on a stub axle with two bearings, which can be moved sideways. The bearings are hold in position with spring locking pins. The gauge change facility consist of various guide rails, which have the function to pull the locking pins, move the wheel bearings and release the locking pins so that they can settle with spring force in their position. Technically the gauge change could be performed up to speeds of 60 km/h, but the mechanical wear would be much higher. The system is rather robust, only winter time with snow and ice can be a problem. This system is only suitable for relatively light vehicles like passenger trains. The maximal load per wheel can not be higher than 8.75 metric tons (17 tons per axle).
other gauge change systems:
There are gauge change systems for loaded freight trains used between Europe standard gauge and broad gauge used in the area of the former Soviet Union. This systems are called SUW 2000 and Rafil.
SUW 2000: www.schaeffler.com/remotemedie...
Rafil V:
images.slideplayer.hu/7/195984...
There is a gauge change system to change between 1'000 mm and 1'435 mm. It was developed by Prose in Switzerland and will be used on the Golden Express Route. The track is called EV09. See here: www.schienenfahrzeugtagung.at/...
Japan uses gauge change systems between 1'064 mm and 1'435 mm. See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_C... - Авто та транспорт
Beauty of Mechanical Engineering... People has no idea about how much brain we have in such technique...
This System is also used on tje Polish - Belarus border with the Berlín to Moscow train
I love this son....talgo is great
Esto es tecnología española 100% enhorabuena a Talgo!!!
¡Excepcional documento!
Very Excellent Engineering 👍👍
Viva la INGENIERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> France uses 1435mm standard gauge, while the Spanish system uses 1668mm gauge
.... on the *old* lines while the new high speed lines are also 1435 mm !
The gauge change is inside Spain and changes from 1668 mm to 1435 mm.
RailRide It's entering at 1668mm and leaving at 1435mm (if you look just at the end of the video there's a sign with 25000V 3000V on it - the 3000V (Iberian gauge, 1668mm) is crossed through)
Genial! Que bueno!
We need this system to do Paris Madrid and to probably short the time of the Moscow express despite it is currently suspended.
Paris-Madrid: the system was used many years for the Elypsos night train, but they give up once the high-speed trains started. Also RZD bought Talgo trains for the destination Moskau-Berlin
Se utiliza justamente agua para que cuando la rueda queda en el aire pueda "resbalar" con esa fina capa de agua.
Si lo es puedes mirar en otros vídeos, además cuando lo cojo a veces me acerco a la ventanilla y veo en la otra vía que está llena de agua... tanto es así que ya no utilizo crema para afeitar puesto que en este caso el agua de la ducha me lubrica la piel y hace que sea menos dolorosa la cuchilla al afeitarme.
0:00､警笛が東京モノレールだ！！
スゴいですよね～幅の違いとの共通車両の台車って～作るのにも設計的に苦労しますからね｡
日本にも有りまして､JR九州で新八代駅付近の連絡線に軌間可変装置として､設置されてますからね｡コレまでデッドセクションや軌間可変関連が廃止された新下関駅ですね｡
No, it cant with this system. The difference would be 435 mm instead of 233 mm. For the change from 1435 to 1000 is an other system developed by the Prose company in Switzerland. I cant post links but Google for 'Gauge-Changing Bogie - EV 09 Prose'.
fantastic. and all at about 20Kmh? 'mazin'
@Indipuk Actually since 1968 there hasn't been any failures with this system!
@djcocum Sí, es agua nada más. ¡Increíble pero cierto!
Kudos then.
@Indipuk The Spanish system is broad gauge (5'6"). The rest of the continental rail network is standard gauge. These trains could in fact run through to Finland and the 5' gauge network. Very interesting.
All but your SUW 2000 links are dead. Excellent vid, by the way.
Es agua el liquido utilizado, para que cuando la rueda queda en el aire la parte del bogie pueda así resbalar hasta que la rueda se coloque en el ancho adecuado.
Why do they spray water on the axels??
Thw water is sprayed on the auxiliary rails under the axle box support to minimize friction while the wheel discs on the stub axles are moved into the new position by shifting the two stub axle boxes.
okay...could someone explain to me what exactly is happening in this facility?
guage change
All I'm getting is "Sorry, this video is no longer available"
To the owner, is this video still available?
What is the gauge entering and exiting this facility? The light coming from the far end made it hard to determine if the train was going from standard to wide or wide to standard.
one is 1668mm the other 1435mm
Official speed by changing gauge is 15 km/h on Talgo documents.
that would depend more on the train. if there is enough allowance for the wheels to slip into 1000m, why not :)
Haa sahi kha ek bam right
Es agua seguro? No sera alguna clase de liquido lubricante?
思った以上に速く通過できるんですな。
しかも機関車込みで。
鎌鎌線もこれになるんでしょうかね。
Interesting, but can it change from 1,435m to 1,000m?
Btw, nice video!!!
技術的には、毎時60キロも可能ですが、機械的摩耗はその後非常に大きいです。（Google翻訳で翻訳された）
They aren't supposed to run 100mph through the gauge changer. It's at a reduced speed obviously! Seems to me like they work great like rail switches do.
I would think they would need to go slower
は、速っ・・・！！！
Doesnt look too safe. How often does trains need to change their wheels and bogies?
It's a very reliable technology, used at the French Spanish border. Since the talgo is a light weight rain, the wheels and bogies usually last longer than in other high speed vehicles.
No, not really the Talgo system is unsuitable for this large gauge difference. There are other systems like Prose EV09 which can do this.
Why so much complications and risk.convert all the lines in to SG.
Good idea if you're going to pay for it. Gauge changing technology is much cheaper than gauge conversion on the infrastructure side.
@@peettheengineer In the long run gauge conversion is beneficial. including making and maintaining different rolling stocks.
In India all the MG/NG lines(except mountain rlys) were converted to BG and also electrified...
Alvia cambiava scartamento appena dopo Barcellona,nel lontano 2007(io feci Barcelona-Madrid);2 anni dopo la stazione sants di Barcelona aveva 2 scartamenti.Oggi il TGV fa Paris-Narbonne-Figueras Vilafant-Barcelona e Madrid-Toulouse---meglio il Talgo Milano/Zurich-Barcelona,"Sud Express" Paris-Lisboa/Porto/Vigo anni 80/90
¡Viva Talgo! It's just sad that the Spanish government did not give Talgo more opportunities. Maybe Talgo was less inclined to be kind to politicians... and you know what I mean.
Good engineering, mankind can do all sorts of engineering, but, Would be easier if Spain modernized and went to standard gauge, like the rest of the world is doing!
If you give them some money, they will do that immediately.
No. 1668 mm standard gauge is safer than 1435 mm narrow gauge, compensating centrifugal forces around bends better and thus increasing safety. There's nothing inherently modern about 1435 mm, in fact it's a historical mistake that some countries insist on perpetuating because they aren't willing to spend money to broaden their archaic gauge to something more sensible in this day and age, like 1668 mm. Neither is something that "the rest of the world is doing". As a matter of fact, Spain, the leading country when it comes to high speed railways, has gone back to 1668 mm even for high speed lines; the two newest ones inaugurated these past couple of years are appropiately built to 1668 mm standards. The older 1435 mm network will foreseeably remain as it is due to the high cost of modernising it to 1668 mm, but eventually those lines will need to be updated too and it's a guarantee the gauge will be fixed while they're at it. There's a reason all Spanish high speed trains will be dual gauge with 1668 mm as the default by then, so they can keep operating seamlessly when the narrow gauge mistake is corrected in the old high speed network.