Jeep Grand Cherokee - Long Crank Time - P0335
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- This 5.7L Hemi engine is used in many different trucks and the same procedures will apply. A new crank and cam sensor where installed by the owner as well as a new wiring harness pigtail for the crank sensor and it continues to set a crank sensor fault, along with the long crank time symptom.
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Man I just want to thank you I've been following you for ... a long as time lol... I went to an automotive school then worked for several shops started working for chrysler (FCA) since 2012 now I'm the foreman of the dealership I work at I have a very successful career and I can say you were a part of it and your teaching is far superior than any school or dealership training I've been to. To anyone reading this listen to this man . Apply the knowledge and sooner than later it'll pay off.
Thank you so much for this comment. Really feels good to be able to make and impact on other peoples lives. Thanks for sharing a piece of it with me.
The EXACT same thing here, thanks Dann 😂😂😂 just kidding, thanks Paul!
Started a year and a half ago as a career but have been watching you for two years. Now have been educating myself everywhere I find the opportunity but you have been a go to for some of the best training I’ve have gotten. Now I am leaving this as a career and turning it to a hobby. I start with West Virginia state police this upcoming Monday.
But everyone that has found out that I am no longer working for the the shop I worked for and sees the work that I have done with my hobbies offers me a job. A great deal of this is credited to you. The person who made this original comment is absolutely correct you have been a great deal of inspiration to many people and thank you.
Smart guy
Thank you for simplifying things, I always enjoy your videos, I can relate to the explanations you give . God bless you🙏
Great diag & good example of why DIY diag needs to be double checked 👍 When I have to use the blue connectors in this situation I double over the end of the smaller wire to make it fit nice and tight 👍👍
I have done that as well! Great tip, thanks!
Wow, the new Camera Focus is awesome !! In the one Moment it looked like Paul was standing in front of a Standstill Photo, so clear he was in Focus....NICE.
The new camera-video is incredible, hats off to the youngster.
Nice job on the diag Paul, as usual……
Y'all better jump on that Scanner Danner premium, literally changed my life. Even tho I do this for a living I still come just to watch the antics, get some humor, and as always Caleb does his magic with editing which all makes for a good time. Feels like I'm standing in the shop bullshit'n with the guys. Thanks again for the great content and all you've done for me Paul, blessings brother 👊
Thank you Joseph!
Paul messin’ with his bro is always good times. Interesting case study on a crank and or cam sensor and having to go after someone who fired a parts cannon and couldn’t even wire things up correctly.
I can really appreciate the image stabilization and longer lens used for these videos. This was another great teaching experience.
Thanks for these videos! It helps me a lot in the Bahamas 🇧🇸
A good Mechanic every minute of ur time is always worth something
I.M.O you should always post regardless the content, simple fix or not. Someone may always learn something! Plus it's quality content
Thank you my friend.
Definitely a chargeable job, you did Diag and a repair. If the customer had just asked you to check the repair then no diag
I love snap on guided component tests because it give connection views and much more
The moment you turn up is when you start charging the customer, another great lesson
Not doing test drives have gotten me bite! But I learned!🏆
Thanks for sharing SD, what an awesome way to start this week😍
Special thanks to James & Caleb Danner👍
Stay Safe & Blessed Guy's❤
Thank you Salman!
Thanks again. I watch these to refresh my memory. I worked on car for 10 years in the past but not drivability. Mostly brakes , exhaust , front ends and alignments. Shock, struts and the like. Some electrical like starters and alternators , batteries. For the last 22 years I've been working on Airplanes so this doesn't apply, but it helps with my own vehicles as i don't trust today's mechanics to not rip me off or do a good job.
I do a lot of 12v electrical work and those crimpers are probably the best I ever used. Those heat shrink connectors are awesome but take practice to use properly. Use a heat gun if ur not used to using them instead of a torch.
Im in a dodge ram group and a lot of times people have start up problems. I always recommend your videos and explain that the first checks should always be 5v ref, cam and crank signal and to always get a scope of those two signals before even messing with anything else. All thanks to your guidance and BASICS into mechanics! Also, caleb is getting crazy at editing!!
Watching from the Philippines, you're my hero sir. Such an honest vid. Would save for your premium channel.
TEST DRIVING BEFORE REPAIRS IS A BIG HELP, ALSO TAKING PICTURES OF THE BODY BEFORE TOUCHING VEHICLE, ESPECIALLY NEW CONDITION VEHICLES
Paul u the man special everytime a shout out from a Lebanese in Africa u r helping here with me cars that I sell in togo Lomé and just to say the least u have been saving me a lot because here in this country there is no knowledge by Africans with newer models or repairs like this so thank u soooooo much may god bless u man
May God bless you too! Thank you
Hello from Texas. Love your channel and have learned so much from you. Just wanted to point out a few things that may help you or others in the future. Cut zip ties off straight. When they are cut at an angle they are sharp. I don't know how many times I've come into a repair and cussed the sob that cut the zip tie off crooked that made me bleed lol. The other thing is that I always make sure I wash my hand and arms off before entering the customers vehicle. Also blow myself off with and air gun if I'm dusty. I've always tried to leave things the way I received them. Grease, dirt, and finger smudges are a no no for me lol. Keep up the good work and thank you
For sure! I didn't even think about that but you're like the 5th person to tell me! I promise to never do it again 😊
They make step gauge heat shrink butt connector's, white to pink, pink to blue, blue to yellow. They also make them with solder in the center that spreads while you heat the heat shrink.
Manufacturer? Distributor?
Awesome! I've been a tech for 20 years and had no idea they made step down connectors
I use the ones they sell on Amazon. The self sealing ones, heat shrink, solder and the colored glue/sealer. I admit its so easy to twist wires and shrink the self sealers with solder. I feel anything that makes my life easier AND makes a better job AND saves time has got to be the right way to do it. Worth the 5 pennies per connector more.
1:31 i can hardly see the thing! lol! oh, here comes danner to the rescue lol! that intro then transition was absolutely perfect!
Caleb will like to hear this! Thank you
2 hours labour at least. I gave out a few months ago about the quality of a video you took my complaint on board and thankfully didn't take offence. This production is excellent. Thank you.
Was it the jump cuts?
@@ScannerDanner yes that's the one.
We always learn something new from you. Thanks Paul! God bless you
It was a very jury rigged repair for sure. when I saw your readings first thought came to my mind was connector .. but it was barbaric and uncivilized work those folks did. I spare you of what I would want to say in sarcasm. I was in the industry for 45 years and very pleased with the thinking process of this tech. Good job.
Knowledge is power and power does not come free. Good job as always.
Great video! I often get stomped when making wiring repairs when I have to figure out which cavity is which. They need to come up with a clearer way for us to decipher the difference in the location of the connectors, but I guess if it was that easy everyone would be doing it! Thanks for the info brother! Always good to see you guys busy and staying healthy!
Keep at it, it will click for you one day.
@@grigorirasputin996 Thanks man! I say a lot of times I’m gonna be an old man before I understand half of this stuff and I’ve been at it for years. 🤦🏽♂️ But I won’t give up! I try to be better everyday! I learn a lot from these videos him and others I know post!
@@gregjones8501 I've been at it for 9 years. I've had break throughs, slumps, and everything inbetween. We picked a hard job to master but i think that's the draw for guys like us.
@@grigorirasputin996 Couldn’t have said it better myself brother! 👊🏾 Thanks for the pick me up!
Pual as allways thank u
Thank you for helping a brother
I started work as a diagnition in my father work shop working with good scan tool luanch x431 pro v4.0
And a test light and a voltmeter and fuel pressure gauge
And i swear im killing it in the shop because of you
Im planning soon to join sd premium and get yor book
Greeting from libya
That is such great feedback! Thank you so much for sharing! I look forward to hearing more from you along your journey. May God bless your path my friend
Always have that dedication. This is what makes great techs, the willingness to learn and more complex cars come in the shop, it is a challenge for sure since technical information is not all available for newer cars.
The way you reiterated how to protect the technician regarding the misfire code with also the financial side was super rad to me man thanks for genuinely looking out for the learning mechanic and the industry as a whole👌👍
always looking out for the tech and the industry
I learn a he'll of a lot from your vids ,and fixed my fuel pump on a 95 astro that you had a vid on!!
Another great video from the master. Nobody better than you sir
Nice work as always, I appreciate the new rig setup (quality editing and filming) 👏👏
The shop deserves to be paid in full, good work requires pre and post checks/relearn as well as the wiring repair, so that diagnostic charge is a must 👌👍💪 #PayThatManHisMoney 😂
Shop ware system makes it really easy to take notes of those codes. Extremely amazing system
ScannerDanner awesome as always...your zip tie cut off was brutal🤣😂 I had to jab you on that. Flush cut for the next guy.
😂😂 you are so right! I left a nice sharp point for the next guy didn't I?
A tight zip tie can slip a notch or two as things settle into pace. I prefer to leave an extra 1/4 inch in case. It's not like you're going to die falling on a zip tie.
I am a appliance technician and I do the same thing that you mentioned to test the car out before you start working on it. When I go on a service call let's say a stove if the customer mentions the oven does not heat I always check all the burners to make sure that they all light up before I start taking unit apart because if I did not do that and one of the burners were broken beforehand that customer could say there was nothing wrong with it before you worked on it. Love your videos I have a passion for cars I try to go to Lincoln tech to become a technician but decided to take my career path to become a whirlpool certified technician kind of glad it went that way because I love working on vehicles and if I were to do that for a living it probably would have ruined my hobby for cars
Thank you! Awesome to hear from guys in other fields.
100 percent charge for repairs. Guys get Danners book. Great investment for you to be a better technician. I got it and great valuable Information. Thanks for another great one Paul.
Thank you so much Nelson!
100% you should charge for the diagnostic time. It is a business, and if they took the time to learn this stuff they wouldn’t need to take it to you. You did take the time to learn this skill and that has value.
I agree 100% the shop and technician should be paid.In my opinion it does not matter how long it takes both should be paid.It cost both the shop and technician time and money don't want to seem cold but that is life.Great video Paul and Caleb as always.GOD bless.
Right on
WOW!!!!!! The difference in the new camera rig is phenomenal!!!
Paul looks even more buff now, btw.
🤣🤣 thank you!
If one of my son's ever run for President, Caleb will be doing all of the video production. ALL OF IT. 🇺🇸
Love your videos and look back at them often, also have your book. One thing I would say as a shop foreman that I am always telling my guys, please WASH YOUR HANDS before getting into a customer car after your repair. LMAO
Great video , Makes you wonder who's out there doing repairs like this to cause/create a different problem , than customers think they are getting run threw the mill
Nice job and great advice, absolutely a diagnostic and repair charge.
most of my joints i solder bar for ones that request crimp keep up the good work
Solder wiring in a dynamic environment fails..
Best regards from Poland bro👍from Your’s Big diagnostics fan
kick ass video quality upgrade. SD premium is my new years resolution !
looking forward to hearing from you in the comments of the premium videos! Thank you!
My 2014 GC is doing this as well. I’ll have it looked at next month and I’ll be sure to reference this video. I would say my car does this once every 10 or so starts…and the second time I start it up it cranks/fires right away.
Good Evening Sir ScannerDanner take care and have a great day 👍
Tutorial great thank you 👏 👌 👍
📷 man got the eyes for 🎥 , great video
❤ it thank you
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
new camera seems to be working awesome...GREAT PIC QUALITY
You look like a spitting image of the main character from Sons of Anarchy!!! Cheers from Australia. Especially front on! I thought at first: he's a mechanic and an actor.after watching the vid. You definitely look like brothers!!!
I've heard this before lol
Danner..Home run on the shrink butt and crimp tool issue, 100% right on correct. There is a transition butt connector availilbe that comes yellow to blue (12-14 to 16-18) and blue to read ( 16-18- 20 -22). as you found when you heat them the hole tears it self bigger and the compound inside often does not seal. I'm fond of clear nail polish to layer in the hole ( and where you poke holes in wire ) but the sticky black goop works too. ( I just hate working with that stuff). Good video and great wire repair.
Thank you!
It's a pleasure watching you use these tools to aid in understanding issues.
I've learned a lot and one day I hope will no longer have to throw parts at a problem.
Keep watching and you won't! Awesome comment
@@ScannerDanner Hey I was wondering, I've run into an electrical issue that I can't seem to nail down. I have a P0750 on my 2005 Grand Cherokee. Replaced the valve body solenoid pack, tested the physical wiring from the L/R solenoid to the PCM and PCM to transmission control relay, had the PCM itself on a simulator and the driver chip in the TCM is good, all the connections and pins are 100%, refreshed the ground terminals and surfaces, changed the EATX (transmission control) relay, and still this code is presented. Even just knowing what your next line of diagnostics would be would be an immense help, because I am at the end of my rope trying to figure it out. (And just to clarify, I am still saving up for a decent scanner, the one I have now is rudimentary)
@@CHAOSMOVEMENT I'm so sorry, it is hard for me to keep up, especially with follow up comments. I get about a hundred new questions a day, and do my best to answer them and when I do, they just multiply! Anyway, if you still need help, I have created a forum on my website www.scannerdanner.com/forum/post-your-repair-questions-here.html that is free to join, where I have 4 hand picked moderators and over 25k global members who are there to help me help you guys! You will not find a more friendly and helpful forum anywhere. Hope to see you there! Thanks for understanding.
@@ScannerDanner That's totally understandable. I thank you for the personal response.
Did you check the fluid and it’s level?
I think it’s cool you and your brother are close as you are and get to work with each other every day. Seems you two are pretty tight
We really are. We've been through a lot together. Lost our dad when we were just babies and had an abusive step father for many years and during those times, it was me and Danner. He was my rock and I was his. We were and are still so close in large part because of those difficult times. And that is what you see on camera. Nothing staged, just me and my big brother when we are together. I love him so much. Thanks for noticing.
It is a shame that a bad repair is what caused that vehicle to end up coming to you. Now the customer has to pay more money out to fix an issue that should have been fixed the first time if it was done correctly. Well done Danner on showing how to do the job correctly. I always enjoy watching your videos 👌.
Thank you!
Good job Paul. There's something to learn on every one of your videos. FYI: Premium member. Your book and premium videos have meant everything to me.
Thank you James!
Always learn a lot watching your videos -
Hey Paul look into sherco bare terminals. It's a kit of bare terminals and then you buy marine heat shrink in bulk. You get an excellent strong connection and an awesome seal
I used those same Snap On crimpers today on an aftermarket radio installation and experienced the same thing with both ends of the wiring connectors that you had to splice together being different sizes and having to use the un-insulated part of the crimpers since half of the wires were small. I should have doubled over the smaller diameter wire but didn't think of it at the time. Those Snap On crimpers are my favorite.
I love it, I just put that same end on the end of all three of my test lights earlier this week.
Next is gonna be a set that has the stackable banana jacks on there, for sort of a home made load pro
I'd love to see SD do a video on the classic " ever since you fixed this water pump my radio does not work" lol if you know you know
Danner..FYI they make tranistion butt connectors to join different gauge wires together. In your case looked like 14 to 16. They come in shrink style also.
Great information. Your new camera makes the video crystal clear that's awesome as well 👍🏽👍🏽
Outstanding teaching points here Paul.
100% with you on the test drive before and after 👍
i had one years ago and referenced a old video of yours and found the fix
So the problem was the preview person who was working on this vehicle didn’t connect the wires in correctly manner, that’s why it is take to crank to long, thanks master for this class 👍🙏
I have that battery tester from Topdon, without the printer... mine tests battery, starter and alternator in one package. Not a legit load test but a capacitance test for internal resistance, ie CCA capability. Does not evaluate the battery for Ah capacity either.. but is useful for a quick diagnosis.
Hello...this video is very helpful...jeep grand cherokee srt8 2014 long time to crank...and same what happened with jeep in this video....u think the same problem?
About using the blue connector, when I wire from 16-14ga (blue) down to 18-20ga (red). I strip the smaller wires twice as long, twist them tightly then fold them in half (sometimes I squeeze the folded end tight with a pair of needle nose pliers) Doing that almost always allows to get a good crimp on the smaller wires when using the blue connector and you don't risk cutting into the connector from using the uninsulated post of the pliers.
I tear tesa tape everyday. Just did it on top if a fuel pump pigtail yesterday. Its great stuff
Great job as usual , i think there was a recall for that P1521. I had same issue on a 07 ram 5.7L
At 19:40, for protection I always do a full system scan before and after for documentation purposes.
something I should start doing as well. I am guilty of not
Awesome video! Are the locks by passed on the lift? I don’t ever see you release the locks?
The beauty of editing and wasted time in an already long case study. We ALWAYS use the locks!! And have shown it many times, just not every time if that makes sense
Awesome, boys!
Video quality? Outstanding!!
Had a similar one on a ram truck. They put a new engine in it. All new sensors and actually used wire nuts to connect wires. The crank pigtail was smashed. The typical “I do all my own work fella”
when I see wire nuts, I know I am in for something special lol
@@ScannerDanner lol I chuckled and said I can fix it or you can but before we go any further it needs done right.
Dude you just saved my ass! I have an 06 Commander that has this long crank time and now it is also dieing while driving and it may sit 20 minutes and crank it may sit over night and drive okay all day but if nothing else you have given me a start I'm getting the the same codes even the misfire I doubt it's going to be this easy and I don't have the TECH scanning as intently but I really appreciate the insight!!!
Thanks for the comment! It is the knowledge of the workings of the circuit that you just equipped yourself with and you'll be able to adapt the tooling you have. I wish more DIYers would recognize that. Most are intimidated by the scopes and scanners and think I have nothing to offer to those with minimal tooling and nothing could be further from the truth. I'll help you too if you stay in this thread. You have a P0335 consistently setting?
@@ScannerDanner Yes... I used an auto Link al329 I had borrowed.. it also has P0340 I took pictures of the codes before I cleared them
@@hopewilliams6705 focus here on these cam and crank sensor codes for sure! I have other videos on Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep systems that would all have identical hall effect (cam/crank) circuit designs
@@ScannerDanner Thank you so much I will... And I will look up your videos!
Irrelevant the answers on FB, " ever since we wear facemasks, everybody has become a qualified doctor"
relevant is what we learn from your videos :) can get enough of it !!!! 😀😀
Thank you Ruben!
👍🏻😎💯 This comment needs to be pinned to the top! I don't even work on domestics... and have learned so much from this channel! Thank you Danner and much success & good health I'm wishing for you into 2022!
Another fantastic auto Tec video Scanner Danner. Happy New Year.
great video Paul and Caleb and the new camera sure makes your videos awesome on my TV . great to have you back Caleb...you guys keep up the Awesomeness looking forward to more in the coming year
Heck yeah, great comment
Wannna make the Scanner Danner Test Light even better? Make the banana jack a stackable one. They sell ‘‘em on Amazon.
Did you remember to bring that Battery Tester in? you left in on the garbage bin !! 😉
The Hemi we built called for 5W20. For break in we used a 10w30 oil. After ten minutes of running we got the same code for incorrect oil viscosity. Had to do two drain and fills with oil filters before the code went away.
Nice of Chrysler to do that - now when your engine wears out, you can't "bandaid" it with thicker oil to get you down the road. If you live where they test for emissions, you're done. Have to rebuild the engine or junk it. That boils my blood BIG time!!
Glad to see you guys still at it, and healthy and happy as always! I LOL'ed at the stealth sticker operation. Nice sticker, too! Camera looks great - it's a full-blown commercial production here now. No more beginner filming and editing! We all learn as we go, but you guys learn better than most. I've been slacking on your vids, Paul! Sorry about that! Hope all of you had a great Christmas and New Year's! 👍🍻 May our Lord and Savior be with you always.
All good Smitty! We all have different things we do and different patterns of life come our way right? Thanks for the comment and encouragement, you've always been that for me.
Just a suggestion for using a larger than should be crimp connector. Fold the small wire bare end to fill the connector barrel. I have even shortened some of the bare wires and folded the rest in order fill the connector for a tighter crimp. I know this is not the text book scenario for a repair but just look at some of the crap that is factory made and when you are a couple of hundred miles from the shop and somewhere on a lake or on a construction sight in the middle of nowhere and it's already 8:00 at night, you do what you have to do in order to get the job done and get home in time to shower and get back to the shop. You don't see this situation much in the automotive field but in the marine or equipment repair business it is a constant occurrence.
Very good point about the crimper used for the shrink connectors and the resin filled or what I call hot glue. (i don't know what it is but it works) The glue also helps strengthen the connection against strain. I wish I could convince the mechanics and manufacturers in the marine industry about the crimper style and crimp connector style because I see a lot of wiring corrosion do to wrong type connectors and anvil type crimper.
Good job Paul and Caleb.
i have found using a seam ripper to cut the tape works the best
Great vid Paul. Very informative and info that I can keep handy. Thanks for sharing
Nice video Dan like always been seeing you for years, I have a question bud I hope you see it, I have a Snap on modis edge I use, and it struggles to communicate with the cars most of the time now, I’ve talked to an engineer and a couple of buddies they said the dealer ships are now doing something that makes scanners not communicate with the vehicle so everyone can go just to the actual dealership in the near future, I just wanted to know if you’ve had the same issue with the scanners? or which one do you recommend to get? Thanks for all the videos man seriously, am sure they’ve helped a lot of people including me
Dan?
newer systems with the secure gateway modules, you will need update maybe even some hardware on your Modis? Not sure
Haha I have a Topdon battery tester. No complaints with it so far.
great vid, alot of times i use bullet connectors, and slip heat shrink over them, yes hes right crimp too hard, and when you heat the resin, might be a tiny opening for cprrosion to set in,. And NO i never had any bullet connectors with heat shrink ever go bad,yet.
Hi Paul, great job you do always. Pls my ES350 2010 smokes terribly. We've rebuilt (replaced it rings)its engine and replace its oil but those seem not solving the smoking problems.cohld you advise me on what I could do to solve this problem pls
Just come across the channel and got to say great content just subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Glad you found me and I look forward to hearing from you some more
Love your guys stuff! Watch it all the time. I think you’ll get a chuckle out of this too. But at 8:29 when your looking at the connector on and trying to find out which pin is 1-3. I do it too, all of us technicians, electricians, mechanics, millwright (my trade) etc. get so focused on something we miss a little bit of the bigger picture sometimes. But, if you look at the connector your holding in your hand and look at the picture, you can clearly see the clip on top and rounded corners on bottom. And then count your pins where it says 1 on right and 3 on the left. Silly miss, but good reminder to take it all in, and that sometimes if we take a second. It can be easier than we’re making it
I did go by that in the video but never mentioned why I chose the pins I did. It was based on that pic, but I guess I didn't fully trust it. Maybe Caleb cut a critical piece? Yeah we'll blame him 😅
@@ScannerDanner haha. We love the videos! I’m not even in the vehicle/mechanics/auto diagnostics field!
But I’ve gotten to help so many others including myself. And it’s not just automotive but once you understand this. You can pretty much do all 12v system diagnostics! Great great stuff guys! If you ever come to Oregon. Hope I know about it!! Thanks again. Danger family is awesome!
Danner *
Stupid autocorrect
@@dudemiddleton16 lol I knew that. I get danger all the time. Maybe some truth to that?
There should be a set minimum diagnostic time on every repair. You should not charge less for your time because you’ve become better and faster at what you do. You paid your dues at some point and time.
Tessa tape is fantastic!
I loved watching your videos
Absolutely charge diagnostic time.
Agree with SD
Great Video, I have a 2012 Ford F-150 Platinum 5 liter v8, the problem is that the high-speed cooling fan for the engine kicks on when the truck isn't moving after 5 minutes without a/c on, when I turn the a/c on, it kicks on in a minute. We checked the low speed relay and no power is coming in the relay. I've been to a couple shops including the dealer and I still couldn't get a fix. (The obd 2 scanner didn't pick anything up either)