Spotting The Pathological Liar: 10 Subtle Characteristics
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Have you ever had an experience with a person who always seems mysterious and nothing they say ever comes to fruition?
Well…if so, you might have been dealing with a sociopath, narcissist, or even a pathological liar. This article will discuss 6 important characteristics we should all be aware of with the pathological liar.
In this video, I discuss characteristics of pathological liars and typical disorders that involve pathological lying. I focus on the following characteristics and define them for you:
Habitual/frequent lying that is consistent
Triangulation (which I will discuss further next week)
Listening to respond ONLY
Manipulating you into "playing" roles in their life
Seducing you
Exaggerating things to distract from the truth
Using emotions to control and dominate
Studying you and looking for your weakness
Rehearsing their lines and lies
There are also common characteristics of pathological lying that can be found in the following diagnoses:
-CHILDREN & TEENS:
Oppositional defiant disorder
Conduct disorder
Juvenile Delinquency
-ADULTS:
Borderline Personality Disorder
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Antisocial Personality Disorder "sociopaths" and "psychopaths"
Histrionic personality
To view my article on 6 Subtle Characteristics of Pathological Liars click here: blogs.psychcentral.com/caregi...
Have any of you experienced the "wrath" of a pathological liar?
Sadly, some parents who display emotional detachment may also display pathological traits: ua-cam.com/video/s3Zt-MWvFQ4/v-deo.html
Yes. Unfortunately, I'm just figuring out that they will never admit they've lied. Even when you show them in black and white. They treat you as if you have wronged them (as if you told the lie)and will set out to make you look bad. Now I understand, they try to pull you into an argument, pounce on you and leaving you feel like you're crazy. Thankfully, I'm able to walk away from this person.
The wrath of the pathological liar will do anything to cover themselves. When you see a pattern of lies and then a big one, and when you confront them you are the bad one and the door is closed again. I am really struggling with the lies and manipulation of my daughter atm. Not just with me but the lies she continually tells. The saddest thing for me is knowing what a heavy burden it is for her to carry around, when the truth will set you free. This will never happen as she is being directed by her father, and takes the direction from him. She is 25 now.
I have tried to tell her her lies are like are run away train, nothing but hurt and devastation can come of this. My whole family continually lies to cover themselves.
Hi Clara,
So true! They won't. There are 2 reasons for this. 1. They don't have any connections to reality and lack the ability to decipher truth vs. fiction in their mind. 2. They "play their cards" by not owning the truth and being accountable. Pathological liars, as I discussed in the video, often have personality disorders that complicates the picture even further. Pathological liars don't just lie. They play games, they play vindictive cards, they get over on people, and manipulate others empathy and emotions.
The best option for most people is to walk away, distance themselves, and never forget the MO of the pathological liar.
Thanks for commenting.
Thank you for responding. Yes, I have found your response to be true. It's been a very painful lesson, but it has shown me some things about myself that i need to work on. I'm looking forward to next Wednesday's video.
That "listen to respond" part was my biggest take away from this just cuz recently I was arguing with a "friend" over something and even tho I explained to them Why they shouldn't have done what they did.... She didn't listen, she just gave her response again for the 3rd time to justify her actions.
Similar happened to me, but my friend came back w black eye and was like you was right!!
I was engaged to one for 10 months...Finally things starting getting completely crazy and outrageous...So I fasted and prayed, and that's when God opened my eyes to the truth...Turns out she was married.
Amen. Thank God He did! Would have been a tragedy for you to say the least. Without sight and awareness, we really are "prey" for these personalities.
Thanks for your comment!
Kevin S wow ...smh...these ppl stun the hell out of me.
Sue Ristovska I’m so sorry Sue. Find your source, bring your power back into your body, your heart, your mind, your Life. I’m praying for you to find your way, the healing and recovery you need, and to restore your happiness and freedom Amen
The same exact thing happened to me mine was 16 months and he had been saying his ex wife/kids mom was dying of cancer. They were married she did not have cancer. Disgusting
I’m so sorry you have been victims of these despicable acts! Prayers of healing to you all. A lack of empathy from a person has the ability to sometimes feel as if we are lacking something! A true example where feelings are not facts. Keep healing and God Bless!
I want to learn the power of silence. Smile, nod my head in response to lies. Then go about my business of staying focused on my goals. Life's too short people
If you have to deal with one, the best way is to do just that. Dealing with my ex, I do not get emotionally sucked in anymore. In fact, I see it as just very sad, and try to change the subject any time I can. And I mean that literally. As in, “oh look, something shiny over there”…😂
And triangulation is REAL. . He’s trying to do that to me now and I simply won’t engage
I’m here because of the pathological liar article!! It helped me soooooooo much! Thank you! May God continue to bless you!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
You're welcome and Thank You!😊 Welcome to the channel.
When you have a pathological liar mixed with a narcissist and witness the damage that they do is so exremley painful. Perhaps you could do a video of how to handle this.
Hi Kylie,
That's a great idea! I had that on my radar for next Wednesday. Stay tuned.
Part of being someone that have narcissistic personality disorder is being a pathological liar. That is one of the characteristics of someone that have the disorder.
@@ladennayoung2939very skilled at lying by omission.
Hi Tamara!! Amazing video!! I was a cheerleader in high school in 1987, with a lot of opportunity. However, at seventeen, I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Fast forward to 2022, when I reached out to my narcissistic without a clue of his fury. I forgot not to poke the tiger! My father told me to put my puppy into the shelter. The Vet bullied me by lying about my beautiful dog. He was money hungry. I told him that I paid another kennel $500 for one month of dog boarding. I didn’t realize how neglecting I was to my beautiful, smart, puppy. I stopped sending my narcissistic, pathological father $120 Outback Steak house gift cards. He received a narcissistic injury. When I went to D.C. to visit him for my 50th birthday and showed him pictures of my dog Lilly, I was unaware of the severe danger, my innocent dog was in. My authoritarian father’s wrath was ignited. He called me and said we need to talk about Lilly. He said you can’t take care of her. I have left the family.
I had two types in my past. 1-my grandmother who was manipulative & played both ends against the middle regarding family drama, which she seemed to thrive on. 2-an ex who just lied all day, every day about anything & everything, regardless of the topic.
Listening from the Philippines. That last part is sooo true. Which is why pathological liars also stalk their prey. They are quintessential predators.
My husband lies perpetually. Seems like a lot of work. I’m over it. Definitely a power game.
I would define it as someone who lies when the truth has ZERO consequence.
I know a woman who is literally the definition of a pathological liar. I didn’t spot it at first because her story seemed believable. However overtime the stories grew arms and legs and were just so over detailed and unlikely, it gave me doubts. She would make her life sound so exciting. If you questioned it she would mention something completely unrelated and then reply with a long detailed far fetched response. She is so committed to her own lies that she will actually agree to organise something and everytime the most extraordinary circumstance happens which is used as an excuse.
She truly believes that she’s fooled me 😂 It’s funny being able to see right through it.
I don’t know whether it’s manipulative of me to go along with her manipulation thirst.
Dear Tamara, just want to give you a compliment for your Charisma, your authenticity and overall the way you are and produceyourtutorials!! Love watching your videos, for you just are so natural and agreeable, not like most of youtube girls whose videos are (badly) cut every 10 seconds! Very enjoyable to listen to your speeches! And then, after all of this, you are still competent, professional, intelligent and a wonderful teacher. Im sure you are a good person with a good heart. Sending Much love from Germany:))))
🥰💖 What a sweet comment. Thank you so much. I love what I do and I love what I strongly feel God has called me to do. Connecting with all of you is an honor. Truly.
Many blessings to you!!
Thank you so much for doing this series. I've been dealing with someone like this for about 10 years. This has helped alot in just the first hr of listening, sense I have to deal with this person for life you got a lifetime sub and fan here
😊Thank you! Very glad this is helpful to you. I will bring this topic back up real soon.
You don't have to deal with anyone for life. You can set boundaries and distant yourself from family members as well. You don't have to expose yourself to bad behavior and toxicity from anyone. No matter who that person maybe.
I love your clarity and delivery. Thanks. Just having issues with a new friend who I suspect knows I'm onto his lies and manipulations, and I feel he has laid groudwork with 'my' friends already as I'm warning them
So good! I have seen this video before but always good to get back to it once in a while
Thank you!!
My mother is also a pathological lair, when she is caught out, she invents symptoms of illness. But the hospital can never find a problem, so what happens is that the underlying problem of their so called health issue is now the problem and the issue is never discussed, this is a very huge problem. Have you come across clients who do this, direct the argument then have pretend mental break down so no body can discuss the issue as she is to sick???
Thank you for this!!
You're welcome!!
The way certain people triangulate is not even as obvious in hindsight. I had an admitted vulnerable narcissist, he had quite a good amount of insight that just didn't go far enough. Regardless, his way of triangulating is to complain and describe a horrible person but never say the person is a problem. Then when you say he's just described a problematic person, he would say nothing but sometimes feign some vague responsibility for their overall behavior with little details of how he made them react in such ways. So you'd think oh he's just blaming himself, all the while he's been provoking this person and describing some of their behavior while mixing in his own as well.
Again, invaluable ❤
Thank you!!
Thanks for this content.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
OMG... You are AWESOME!! Thank you so much for your videos! Question though, I only counted & noted 8 characteristics.
Thanks for watching Puro!! 😊You are right. I made a booboo! 🙈
You may like my blog on this topic which lists the appropriate numbers lol: blogs.psychcentral.com/caregivers/2014/09/6-subtle-characteristics-of-the-pathological-liar/.
Very good advice...accurate.
Thank you for watching!
great video, informative and engaging
Thank you Larry. Glad this was helpful
I'm surprised that they can look you in the face and lie, and appear to be telling the truth.
So true. But it's something neurological going on. I may talk about that too this year.
Worst part an u b wantin ta believe they ass 🤦🏾♂️
I don’t like when adults lie to a kid especially their own
Thank you! ❤️
You are welcome!☺
Thanks so much
You're welcome!
🐇 14:39 14:05 14:15 14:00 13:19 (DEFINITION)
🍭 13:28 13:30 13:31 (prey)
🍭 17:14 (bring in ‘new’ lover(s)/poly/quad/tri-“add”/unicorn/swinger/multi-mental illnesses, are multiplying, worsening) 🐇
9:07 9:42 9:52 13:08 13:19 13:23 13:29 13:36 (seductiveness) 14:07 14:38 15:18 17:14 17:22 17:23. 17:25 17:27 (triangulation)
- 4:39 : in narcissism, a narcissist would say or think, something like this: “.....it’s all about me and not your feelings or the triangulated others I secretly and openly involved and I’ll not express my feelings in any way honestly and I’ll keep selfish gaslighting, pathological lying type of agendas going at once for deceptions for me, only, and, it’s all in pure love that I do this, and, you will believe it or I will neglect and abandon you and your family in painful and powerful, emotional and mental ways, night and day, but, subtly, of course, to make you suffer.”
(Sounds like a movie I’ve watched many times.)
- 13:15 : ..., narcissistic TF triangulated to fulfill “the wanted,” toxicly wanted, abusive “be my daughters’ role to let me Father you and her”: “I love you like a daughter” “I love you and the karmic like I’m your father”. 14:39 17:14 17:22 17:23 17:25 17:27
17:48 .....”they (narcissist) listen to RESPOND; not to ‘LISTEN’ TO YOU.” Remember, bcs it’s only a cat toying with a mouse, objectifying of you to them, you are not real to them, and no body else is real, either.
You and every one is an “OBJECT, only.”
- 18:00 18:16 .....”emotionally” invested, you are, but, they are ‘not.’ (MANIPULATOR to lie to you and cheat and whatever else they know they CAN DO to YOU.
Studying their ‘prey,’ “techniques.”
You’re just a game piece to them, not a real deal breathing and feeling (hurting) type person. Which is probably your childhood you’ve had. Hmm, cha ching. Same
Movie.🐇🍭🙏🍭🐇🐇🐇
Great content thank you💓🌈🌈💙🐇💚🙏💛🐲💜🌹🐇🥁❤️
Thank you for doing this! And glad this video was helpful.
How interesting. My mother definitely had traits of a sociopath. My oldest sister definitely falls into the category of a narcissist, I was diagnosed with BPD, and my other sister (who’s behavior led me to this video) fits the description of someone with histrionic personality disorder
another great video
Thank you Tom!
my neighbor is one and she had me fooled for awhile until she slipped up and was caught in a lie.
she then tried to lie to make e excuse. i kinda feel bad for her but have a better idea of what is going on now.
Oh, how I wish I'd seen this a year ago! The wrath of the pathological liar is incredible when experienced by someone already trapped by a severe illness (in my case, cancer) and in a weakened state (chemo brain is a thing, you know). The level of cruelty is phenomenal!
I'm sorry to hear this. Never easy.
I do agree the pathological liar can be very cruel.
@@TherapistTamaraHill Indeed! Your description of the narcissistic liar listening only for ammunition and waiting for a weak moment to pounce is perfect! The control issue does not abide the demands of caregiving, and I believe a deep fear of failing in the role drives the hostility. What an eye-opener after nearly 25 years! Not that signs were not in view, but it's surprising how easily we empaths can make excuses for others to avoid facing reality.
Lying gives them a cheap thrill.
Yes, sometimes that's all it does.
It’s called duper’s delight.
My ex had historian narcistic pathological liar/sociopath! He was a social butterfly but than he acted different when we were alone!
I have and wish I didn’t . Now I have to unwind my poor brain.
I need to learn how to spot defected personalities way sooner .
Book recommendation:
Sam Harris - Lying
It won't disappoint and is a very straightforward and easy to read quickly.
I will check this out too! Thank you
Do they think everyone else thinks like them therefore they think we are lying too?
That's a good question but...no. They actually think the opposite! They think everyone else is "stupid" and doesn't think like them which gives them the right to lie and see if they can get away with it. Sadly, many are good liars because they have "practiced" over time and have succeeded.
Yeah. I get concerned about my son. Because he is 15, and he tend to lie a lot. And will argue with me, and so on and so forth.
Hi, Tamra once these people have been identified and when you have a mixture of narcissist abuse and you have been thrown off the bus because you ask too many questions looking for the truth, 'what do you do?.
Hi Kylie,
Good question and thank you for posting. I would refrain from asking the questions searching for truth because you are giving the narcissistic abuser power. They know you want the truth. They know you don't believe them. Their "little ounce" of power is to keep you confused. If you already have the truth about who they are, you don't need them to confirm anything to you. For example, if this abusive person has become someone in your world who you cannot maintain a relationship with because of threatening behaviors, lack of truth, dishonesty, etc., you already know their MO and don't need confirmation of the "truth." You'll never get it. So I always suggest to my clients to take the bit of truth about their character that you have and stay distant from them. You already know the truth based on their MO.
Hi Tamara thank you so much for your response. Yes this is exactly what they do, unfortunately this time it is my daughter. I am dealing with this on many levels within the family. Can I post the letter to my daughter that i have written but not sent?
Kylie Angelheart Absolutely. You're welcome!
Yes, as long as the letter does not reveal personal details and you are comfortable with doing that.
Take care
Kylie, be glad they left. And thank God for guarding you.
What you do is get ready in court and watch what happens with the bus. Many are now aware of the cruel scams and courts do find them at fault under the rule of law. Trust God and pray them demons off..
What would it be if you lie not to gain anything or to get out of any kind of trouble but to gain sympathy to play the victim but chronically repeatedly and in a completely false manner not an exaggeration but 100% lie is that a compulsive liar or is it something else can anyone please help
Good information. What did this have to do with our immigration policies you mentioned at the beginning of the video though?
Thank you for this information.
I have been studying these issues for quite a while now.
Information is superb, however, I don't know why others have not commented on this particular point,
But it became difficult to actually continue to listen to all this great information because every third or fifth word you say is "um" :"uhh", "like", okay?", "Ahh" "so", "right?"................
If the information is helpful, why pick her apart? I find her to be pleasant to listen to, calming, supportive, positive, classy and professional . I didn’t even notice her interjections mentioned. It just doesn’t make a person feel good. She is only bringing this information to help targets feel validated and good . Just my two cents.
This is a really good video by the way. Thanks for sharing. God bless you and yours in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen and Amen and Amen and Amen.
Thank you so much! Amen indeed.🥰💖 Same to you and yours.
Hi, Im a college student who's doing a research about pathological lying disorder from a literary works. May I contact your email to ask for book references about pathological lying disorder? Ive been searching the book of The Pathological Liar but i cant find one, Thank you so much
Absolutely! contact@anchoredinknowledge.com
I am currently struggling with an 11 year old niece. She has had a rough childhood and both parents have mental health issues and drug use during pregnancy.... I have been one of her responsible adults on and off over the last 7 years. She is one of the best liars I know and I can spot them a mile away. my children went threw lieing phases but traditional parenting behavior management, but my niece didn't learn not to lie like the others, instead she mastered lieing. It has become pathological in nature. She has gone to the extent of creating 'scientific evidence' to prove she is telling the truth. She also sets up situations and then frames others for the situation. ' large puddle of water with nicely staged cup' and sets her brother up. She lives with my mom (Her grandmom) obviously safty issue. goes beyond prank. and she has a so many people snowed... my mom is seeing it because I point it out, and still she can't imagine my niece being so manipulative....
this is her learned nature, her parents taught it. It is built into her core programming. I'm struggling to reach her and help her see what she is doing and get her to stop. I love her dearly despite her lies, but this form of lieing is a whole new problem. I've searched for how to help a pathological lier that is young so that just maybe the future I see her headed for doesn't happen. But the videos aimed at kids treat lieing in a different way,..... and it works.... normally... But pathological liars as children.... HELP PLEASE!!!!
Liars in the lake of fire.
Harsh discipline made me don’t trust my parents , I always went solved my problems alone because I didn’t want them to fake interested and than switch on me angry and beat me up…. I figured all this when I got older , I didn’t even know I was doing this…. So what also I get , I would avoid people who are not supportive of me and others !!! I would even lie to them just to be away! I just don’t like people who sit down and plot of their manipulations of other people mind , like premeditated liars is sick for real, no cure for that!!
They also lie for duping delight, they get off on deceiving someone. They actually do it for fun.
Not all of them. But some certainly do.
Susan,you are correct.Have seen that smirk with 'Dupers delight' many times.They think we are stupid and can't see through their B.S and if they are aware we know the truth, they simply don't care.
What everybody gets wrong is:
Narcissists/psychopaths are a different species of human from empaths.
Just like there are dolphins and sharks. They are entirely different!
So are golden retrievers and rottweilers. Both dogs but entirely different!
So are parrots and raptors. Both birds but entirely different!
I'm a bit confused.
I think most people get that narcissists and psychopaths are different from empaths. They are completely different! They have the thing that narcissists and psychopaths do not have...empathy.
Or perhaps I misunderstood your comment.
What I see that a lot of people get wrong is the difference between narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, and antisocial personality disorder. I might focus on explaining these in a video coming up soon.
Narcissm means no deep inner reflection. Only Ego and Persona. In the worst Case ( IT IS a spectrum). Like a little child with no deep reflection. Immature. What most people learn with puberty lacks. I call IT emotional Intelligence. Like rational Intelligence. You do not see it from the outside Biut you are affected in the Interactions.
Helpful but also makes me sick to my stomach because its creepy.
Trying to redefine my observable reality.
every question i ask, i am accursed of "testing" them..
thanks for this video.
Just ran into one. My mom too.
So hard! Especially when it is your mom.
I think these people are highly ignorant 🤣 and unaware of their behavior, their lying has become habitual, may be it started in childhood in dealing with difficult parents... But now that behavior is subconscious and unaware. As a child , I dealt with difficult people by yelling but never lied because that would degrade me. Yelling doesn't degrade you.
You make some good points!
I would have to disagree, however, with the "highly ignorant" part because for most people who engage in pathological lying, they are not just simply "ignorant." They are incapable. For me, ignorant implies they have the ability to change if they learn the right ways to engage with others. Most pathological liars do not have the capacity to change. They are set in their way, have learned lying works or cloaks themselves well, etc. This is their MO and no form of learning may help them.
Whew yes
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3:50 If someone is lying for no reason whatsoever, no (obvious) reason - basically, the person that lies regularly about insignificant things - they why would there be consequences? Those two things do not seem to jive.
His lies are habitual,consistent, and frequent. He also uses triangulation.
Career liars, that triangle is the worse.
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A narcissist can feel and empathize just fine. However, most patients with sociopathy and all patients with psychopathy will not be able to empathize.
Narcissists can do something insensitive to someone -- and then feel remorse and guilt.
An easy way to remember -- a narcissist is not a psychopath but a psychopath is always narcissistic.
The way I like to put it is that narcissists can "selective empathy." We have to remember, and I wish I would have included that in this older video, humans do not fall neatly into these categories so we can say that these individuals vary on a spectrum of pathology. Everyone is different is what I mean.
My step daughter lies even when unnecessary. I don't understand it.
That's why a lot of people don't understand. Pathological lying is almost like a habit that takes over and there may or may not be a clear reason for why. It's so frustrating to the victims of these people.
Do you have videos about young adults who may be pathological liars? My 19 yo son lies about small things that he shouldn't even try to lie about, he isn't in trouble. (Ex: he says he won $1000 on a lottery but gave it all away to a charity.) There is no reason to be saying what he is saying. He gets no social points with me, or anyone in my home. He did spend the last 2 years living with a narsasistic father. Any thing I can do to help my son? He was on SSDI and still has health insurance.
Hi Amy, I'm sorry I did not see this. I do not. This may be a topic I will revisit in the near future.
I would suggest he get a psychiatric evaluation to determine why he lies. Does he has anxiety and he lies to avoid things? Does he have a personality disorder that causes him to lie and lie time and time again without empathy? He may lie for reasons other than being a pathological liar.
@@TherapistTamaraHill he was on social security disability, but he canceled it when he got a job, now he has no job, and I'm not sure if he can get the disability back, they mentioned something about needing to do a review, I guess that is a test of sorts?
I have been Blessed to discover you, my sister, for the Almighty Lord Has Blessed You Immensely with such a good knowledge on solving problems created by the trouble-makers.
Your advising style is unique and so easy to grasp.
They have solved many of my clarifications.
I am now strictly striving to be peaceful and distancing away from the PLs.
Again and Again, your videos confirm to the many narrations in the Qur'aan and particularly to the below two:
quran.com/6/116
quran.com/43/36-37
Wow, thank you!! Amen to that. I receive that. And I'm so glad that you find these videos helpful. Pathological liars are never easy to deal with and drain us of our life. Prayer is the only weapon against some of these individuals.
My pathological liar believed his own lies
I said why talk to me if you only talk lies
He said why do you care
This is family member
He also listen in to people conversations including the neighbors
He gossip about everyone business
He lived with his mother his whole life and never achieved anything a lazy fool
I hope you can go no contact or have one year on from posting.They are parasites and feed off us one way or the other.They do listen to private conversations and repeatedly gossip/lie/stir up trouble/snoop through our pocessions/back stab etc etc,the list goes on and on.
I’m not sure if he is any of that because I’m very observing person. When we 1st started talking and after he ghosted me I’m glad I got over him for 2 weeks or so because 2 days ago we were talking on the phone for few hours and I purposely asked him questions about things about him that he told me about the first month we were getting to know each other and not even one of his answers is the same. He changes them every time. Don’t know why he’s doing it because we don’t live in the same country, although our countries are not that far from each other. He’s either doing it with everybody or just with every woman. Or only with me for some reason.. maybe to make me fall for him and go to his country.. or just his life is boring and that’s why he makes up all these lies.. no idea but I’m determined to find out because the truth always comes out at some point in life anyways. Nobody can escape from the truth.
No use.. believe me..such people have no motive, they just are this way
My sister fits in these categories, most times I ignore her, so I don't fall in her web of lies.. she does all that you mentioned.. and she can be abusive.. but funny Funny weird thing that changed, she all of a sudden is not as disrespectful, she actually comes of very understanding But then she does try to tear me down and my abilities.. but this new way of hers is kinda scary.. I do not trust her and takes what she says with a grain of salt..
I like that you point out that these individuals can be abusive. I agree. I also see a pattern with pathological liars that the older they get the less lies they tell. There is also the possibility that they become more socially astute and know how to "fake" empathy and understanding in order to "survive." It's difficult to understand why liars lie but it is certainly something we need to talk more about.
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You’re welcome.Love your channel.🙂
Is it possible that entire cultures can take on some of these traits? Just saying....
Yes! It is. I wish there were more research on this topic. I might bring this topic back up and focus on this, granted I can find updated research.
@@TherapistTamaraHill That would be interesting. I am interested in discovering more about the dominate personality traits within Caribbean cultures.
My doctor said that a whole office can be disfunctiomal.
Should I show this to my girlfriend who’s a pathological liar to try to change her?
She lies about anything and everything.
It probably wouldn't work. It really depends on where the lying behaviors are coming from. If she has a personality disorder like narcissism or sociopathy, she won't see herself. If she does not have a personality disorder she might take well to this video.
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When I was a little kid like 5 or 6 I use to lie a lot . I would makeup stories . It was weird . I use to do it all the time. Maybe because I got attention from it? It came so natural to me. Sometimes I would rehearse the lie or Exaggerates the truth. I stopped doing this once I became in adult and started building up myself worth. It took time to fix it for me. Like every-time my mind would start coming up with a story ( lie) I would tell myself no that is not true. Than over time it went away. I'm guessing that doesn't work for adults ?
Have you ever met a person with Dependent Personality Disorder and a pathological liar?
Absolutely. Many. Especially while working in the juvenile legal system 5 years ago. I also know someone very close to me who engages in these behaviors. Very tough.
@@TherapistTamaraHill Do you recommend avoiding them if you can since they won't change?
Absolutely. Many don't have empathy and with no empathy comes betrayal, deception, and sometimes out right murder.
Whew chile😩
RFS
No reason chronic lies omg
At least they are consistent with something, they are consistent with lying at least. Lol. Smh. It is no laughing matter whatsoever, but sometimes you got to keep yourself laughing at times. So you don't get depressed or what have you. Smh.
🤭 well...sometimes that's true depending on the situation.
This is such a incidious behavior to feel the need to deceive anyone as a way for them to do impression management and much stranger is the fact they think it works...imagine being known as an out rightlier..and just imagine all the other traits that go along with it, I saw it in a female covert high score psychopath.. aquantice-ship..I could not get back to any trust at all..which rendered all communication flat to me..I didn't even want face to face contact...way too much..I called her out, she did not respond at all..then eventually called me delusional..which was laughable..that pretty much sealed the deal of Mr realizing I'm not suitable to play any sort of a healthy role in her life what so ever, it's actually very damaging..her impression management skills did certainly manage how I see her..and it is not in a good way at all..mixed with her arrogance and presentation of her Superiorority..difficult to view her in a broken person way..it's my choice and distance is best..I already got to a detached place with her..it's a good idea to just scootch right on past that place to...gone
I have a daughter that is a pathological liar.Daughter"s are to love! But she hates me! And Gaslight me! I just bought her a NEW CAR, paid cash for her. She had me locked up. I put her through college. Put $200. a week in her bank account. And she set me up! She tried to kill her father! And had a man to help her. But I would not go along with the man (daughter"s friend from school) She would not do it alone. She is so dangerous! I can not have her around me for fear of her.
Hell on earth
Overlap between histrionic PD and ADHD? With ADHD people have irregular dopamine levels and will take situations (especially social ones) to the "next level" just to feel the excitement that low dopamine inhibits.
No one ever sympathizes with the liars, the sociopaths, the bad guys. Like we just woke up one day and decided to be what we are with hurting people as our only aim in life.
Very rarely. The reason is because these individuals harm others and do not mind doing so. Everyone is different and there are always exceptions.
@@TherapistTamaraHill exactly. They are the ones bringing pain so doesnt it logically fallow that they are the ones that need to be fixxed?
You would think. But many of these individuals aren't "hurt" people acting out pain. Their makeup is different. Not all but most. That's why meds aren't successful. Characterlogically flawed in most cases. Not all, thankfully.
Good points!
Point is you don't decide to stop hurting others. Doesn't matter whether you chose to be that way or not. No excuse. You know right and wrong and choose to harm. so no, no sympathy. U aren't the victim
I can sympathize with the liar, have done so many times. Yet the ones i know never came to apologize for their lies or changed their ways. Therefor it is needed to leave these individuals behind. Change is not created by sympathizing, consequences are perhaps a better way. Also it is not my responsobility to fix someone else if they do not want to change. I also had to take responsibility for my eating disorder, codependency, depression and lack of selfworth. Staying in connection with those individuals would ruin my own selfworth and selflove so by rejecting the chance to come clean they actually leave me no other option then to leave them. Does this makes sense to you in some way? There are more peoples interest involved here and although i can understand why they lie, with all the safe space and opportunities i provided for them they rather keep up their lies. Thats very unloving and disrespectful and i cannot allow that. But.... to be honest i have overstepped my boundaries with some people when it comes to this subject. My mum for example. Because i understood that her lies came forth from a place of fear of losing me. Same goes for my auntie and my best friend. But right now i actually feel like i have to let my best friend go again and be very strickt with my other family members. Its either my wellbeing or theirs and i cannot allow my wellbeing to suffer because of their toxic traits that they are unwilling to admit or change.
We are like this for a reason - do you think we could be one if things didn’t happen to us? We want to control it, we want to change it, we’re seeking help but all you do is condemn us.
Hi Margaret,
Thanks for sharing your view. It appears you are exhibiting something a lot of pathological liars dont have and that's...empathy. We must keep in mind that everyone is different and some of those who chronically lie doesn't always want to stop.
There is always a bigger thing than what you all judge us with. And I wish all people labeled the way you guys do are bigger than these scars, pain, childhood unwanted experiences, people they had to deal with and etc. we have constant battle with ourselves and I am very sure we all want change and redemption. You can all go ahead and continue saying we are toxic, we are inconvenient, we have to be avoided, we can now go to hell, and list goes on - I wish you all the best. In my case, I’m doing my best to be better one day at a time. Good day!
I’m actually a pathological liar myself and nothing ever happened to me I’ve been lying like that as long as I can remember.
its a shame one think one can seduce someone and actually get the best of them even by lying till a point,i mean are they living in 1800s lmao :D