Husqvarna 266, 272 and 61's vs. Hard Maple Trees. LOTS of Cookies. Bob's Interpretations :)
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- Did a bunch of cookies. Decide NOT to post times! Why? Because too much is "read" into those things. And I'm curious....can anyone really tell? TO the point they can REALLY say which of the saws performed bast? And what does that mean? Does it matter?
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You are Good People, I enjoy watching the two of you doing what we all would like to be doing. Great way to start the day, along with my morning cup of coffee.
You are so right. The smoothness of the cut and reliability of the saw is so much more important than how many tenths of a second difference there is between them
Unless you cut wood for a living.
@@austindenotter19 do you?
@@MrJoeakd Yep. Nwest Wiscconsin.
2 seconds in a 30 second cut isn't making a difference, production or not. It's a pissing contest
@@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403 correct. Those saws were good enough like how they came of from the factory and they were reliable. Of course pro would buy a pro saw and that would be enough, modified work saws are just a fad and not necessary.
Nothing like a good breakfast before a day of playing with saws!
You guys have all the fun I tell my friends I am in to chainsaws then thay look at me like I just sprouted a extra head then thay ask why? Then it's my turn to stumble for a real reason. I just love it wen you and Bob get together for some saw time.
Yes, it looks like a normal day in the wood for you and Bob - you cutting down trees and Bob cleaning up behind you.
Its funny but of all the saws I own and have built the 2 I use the most are pretty much stock. A mid 90s 044 and a 2014 562xp.
As long as my truck gets filled with firewood thats good enough for me.
Like you I like basically stock saws, too. I don’t punch holes in the muffler, add pop up pistons, drive them to 13,500 etc, just to get a second or two difference in cut speed. If I want that, I grab a bigger saw or sharpen the chain. I may apologize for a chain after I finish cutting but not before I cut the first chip. My chains are sharp as a razor when I start but dirt being what it is finds a way to dull them out.
Ironhorse sent me and I’m glad he did you guys are enjoying a day in the woods with great saws love those ole huskys
I thank you Guys for sharing so much knowledge and experience about powersaws. The value of your discussions is priceless 👌
Always good to see you and Bob again and you gotta love seeing those 200 series saws in action.
Love the old 200 series huskys, thanks for sharing your head full of knowledge, both of you!👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks to your channel and your knowledge I was able to bring a 288xp back to life and use it regularly now.
I've been a subscriber now for a while but it's the first time I've made a comment thanks for your content
I just cannot imagine why your videos would get a thumbs down. Keep up the great work and keep the vids coming.
The people who take it too serious are the ones who live behind a saw 24/7 like my self. Stock will do the job ported does it better if done right!
Haha s Jonsered ! Im getting a 435 from a person down south in Sweden to repair and put some love init funstuff with older machines !
Good Job !
Regards Paul Roger
i been looking at your vids for 2 years good job well done
Walt didn’t see Bob’s 266/in 61 rancher cut cookies. Was looking forward in seeing it in cut. 😔Up North here This wood is hard!! & frozen. Thanks keep them coming !
First time out for that saw and it may have an ignition issue. Made a couple cuts and then it quit. Started up at the end of the day when we were done. Haven't dived back into it yet. I'll bring her back up the next time.
Just got done rebuilding a 266 and I am REALLY liking it so far. Good all around saws. And it doesnt even feel like a mid 60cc saw weight wise. Barley heavier than my 2159 that I have
266 original seems Quick the Pirates one looked slower and the 72 is huge its something about that one . Really nice video !
Great video walt been a sub for a while now. Stopping over from ironhorse's channel great work love the vid's and all the info thanks for sharing.
My saws will hang in with that yankee wood. Live oak is the hardest wood I have ever cut or split. I did cut some hickory that was pretty tough. It’s bark would throw sparks when you hit it with the chain. Not only is live oak tough but heavy, too. I also did most of my cutting in those days with a lot smaller saws than you boys. I used a Poulan 395 with an 18 inch bar and a Poulan 3800 with 20 inch bow. Both were pro saws with steel ball bearings and not that sleazy junk Poulan sells today. I still have my 35 year old Poulan S25DA tree saw. The only one of the “old boys” I still have. I actually traded it, too, but bought it back.
Timber!!! keep the videos coming. I an getting into the Husky L65 and a sach dolmar 112 fun..............
Ok cuttn them flares is overkill now your just makin chips lmao. Love it. Your videos are awsome and there unique with all the reds. I love the reds and the homelites I’m outcast! I have all colors just so I can move about freely in the saw world but I like the reds
bingo btw...efficiency isn't a part of this equation...
Liked that alot, since all my saws are of that era . Mostly.
Look!!!😲😲 out!!! Bobs back!!!!👍👍👍👌👌 mate what a show love it.👍 💪💪👍👍
Sometimes it’s nice whene ya got a whole log load to cut. I got a 670 super with a ported 272 tooend with no gasket and a muffler jobby. So effortless in the big firewood logs. It is convenient that the saw does all the work and does it fast.
Yall have some good taste in saws...keep the videos coming...
Good job Walt is always enjoy watching you
Came over from Ironhorse ,Good Job On Your Videos !!!
Can you put his channel here as a link please? A LOT of common interests right there and he's within driving distance as well..:)
It really made the video for me personally to be bucking and felling at the same time; like teamwork! Also that stick of hard maple looked so delicious, and hard, I think I was actually salivating a little. I don't care about a second or even two, I just want to be out there with a good running, and good sounding saw, know what I mean!?
Nice video, Walter! 👋👋
61's and 2 hundred series saws are the greatest machines of husqvarna! After that the first series of 372's! After that it´s junk!
hey walt ironhorse sent me over looks like a great channel dirt bikes saws trains fab work all the stuff i love subed tc bud
Yankee oak ain’t the same as southern live oak. I never cut them down; I cut up blow Downs and turned them into fire wood. A twenty inch round usually took two of us to get in the truck. Splitting one of these rounds was tough. My maul would usually bounce right off the top. Often I had to light up a saw and cut an inch deep slot in the end and used steel wedges and my sledge to split it. Once you got it split the first time it was easy to turn into firewood. It made great wood for smoking meat. It gave them a great flavor.
Reminds me of the "My Cousin Vinny" movie moment about the "grits"
Nice Saws ! Fire wood ? Oh I get it ... cookies for the cooking fire. 😉👍
At 19:27 you can see the tap come out...caught trying to sneak out of the back door
Walt , I stopped by a shop and the owner was going to scrap a Yugoslav 66 Husky, does alot of what Bob and yourself talk about in this series (200)apply to the 66?
It needs a muffler, oil cap and and a brake band or whole clutch cover . I see alot of A.M. stuff online, but I've never worked on one and was inspired by you guys.
Should
Does it matter? Not to most people, but if you're making hundreds of cuts a day, 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, carrying around a lighter saw that does more work = more money in your pocket with less fatigue. So, yes, that second in a half does matter to some people. It could be the difference between paying the bills and not for some people.
Yeah I've heard pretty much everything...:) AND to all those opinions my perspective is everyone will decide how to spend and rationalize how they invest...and it's all good. Not arguing the merits. Couple of things...I do build tweaked saw for a few, and most are their own one or two man deal, some who "sub contract" to larger operations. They love and use those saws, makes their day go by faster. BUT to the other company's with crews....they want NO part of modded saws. SO there is a message in there for those who can add and subtract. :) And if a few seconds times say thirty trees a day is the difference between paying the bills and not? You are in the wrong line of work. There are a lot of pro's who make a living with a stock saw. Unles you are like my "older" logger guy likes my twisted 372's as he ran 390's and 90cc saws for decades. AND doesn't mix up his day with skidding....others do that. He just cuts. Says my 372's will let him go another few years...so to each there are different priorities. But there are a LOT more firewood types even loggers who skid their own than that last guy I mentioned.
Not gonna lie... I’m kinda jealous of the saws you guys have lol!!
i realy enjoy the outings
Slightly off topic. Have you found any other bars and chain for the JonCutter 5800? I bought for taking down an ash tree. It paid for itself in an hour and a half. I was later cutting up a redwood fence and caught some wire It shsrpened back up but a few extra chains would be nice. I ordered another chain from hulzfarma but shipping is really slow these days. Thanks for sharing these products and your builds. It's been a great way to learn.
not really back with my 372's and old Jonsered's
i wondered if ya'll were gonna find any taps, in this video. lol its been a long time since i've heard ya grumpin 'bout hittin one. lol
Bob, I smoke pork to 165 degrees. My smoker runs at 200-250 and I have found a Boston Butt takes roughly an hour per pound. Normally, I smoke 8# Boston Butts about 8 hours. I use charcoal and chunks of white oak I have chopped up from biscuits/cookies I have cut from white oak. Hickory is fine but it leaves a stronger taste than white oak. I have two milk crates full of white oak chunks on my back deck. Apple is also good but don’t have any apple trees that I could cut down. Make sure any wood chunks you use is fully seasoned and dry.
Some real good info there. I also like to mix in charcoal to keep the smoke from becoming over bearing. Thanks John!
What species of hickory? I only have bitternut here and oh my goodness it is gooooood for smoking, not strong at all and very flavorful. I always wonder if mockernut and/or shagbark are stronger.
My saws do not even know what wood looks like until the have five tanks on them. This give the surfaces a chance to mate a little bit before I use them.
I’ve got an excellent running 87 266se with a 20 inch bar cutting hardwoods in the north east. It’s muffler modded with base gasket delete. Do you think it would run a 24 Buried in hardwood? Figured I’d ask before spending the money. Thank you.
Maybe. My 565 can even with 288 with little sawyer skill and finesse
I care more about how long the saw will last and how much maintenance comes with it
good job !
Ironhorse sent me, gotta new sub here 👍
Talk about a cheap way to build a fire. Try splitting some wood and use it to build a fire.🤩. If you can’t do that, stack some wood and use some kerosene to get it going. I use a chimney to get the charcoal going for my smoker. It only takes some newspaper to get the chimney going. I then cover the charcoal with hickory chunks to use the smoker. I use my 17 inch Blackstone gas griddle to cook breakfast on. Just about every tree I cut down is overkill. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
Nice video! I have a 272 that looks like junk but cuts great and i have a low hour 120si that i like.
Thanks guys enjoy the cutting videos can we have some building videos
Is that white top saw missing the chain brake or do they not have one?
That was in an era where saws came both with and without chain brakes. Wasn't until later they were essentially a mandatory because of liability option
I really enjoy the videos. Me myself I have yet to own a chainsaw I didn't like 😁👍, keep up the good work
I 've seen a few red max saws coming up for sale here in Australia. How good are they ? or are they just running them down in favor of husqvarna saws ?
Good saws, some the Japanese designed & built saws and over here some "Red" Husqvarna's. The old red Jonsered Plastic with a Redmax label.
@@afleetcommand thank you for your reply and advice I 'll have to be selective then. thanks again Michael
What better way to start my day than to watch a video by Afleetcommand because I have no Electricity.
Thank goodness for my 3 burner Commercial Bunn Coffee Pot at least I was able to make my coffee with out going outside and starting a camp fire.
Out of all my saws if I could only choose 2, I would have to take my Husqvarna 55 with a 20" 3/8 .058 bar and chain and don't give me any grief for this one an old Mccollough Mac3200 sporting a 14" 3/8 .058 bar and chain "not lo pro"
Why these? Not because there fast but because there more than powerful enough, can tackle all but the way too big stuff and there light and easy to run and wont leave you feeling like a hundred years old at the end of the day.
Electric is still off and now I'm hungry, think I will go outside and start a camp fire so I can have some Bacon and Eggs.🥞🐖🐓☕👍
Had the same thing the day before at my house. Power out for 5 hours. Wind put a lot of trees down. My road was closed at both ends and I had to park the Jeep and walk the last 1/4 mile home. Finished putting that 266/72 together on the outdoor work table I the sun. Then walked back up the road and drove over to the local pub to watch some football.
Nice video Walt & Bob Look at those conditions for January, no snow ? Buried here in Hilly Wisconsin.. So what about vibration vs 3 hundred series, rubber vs steel spring mounts. Keep warm. Wisconsin Tom
The 300 series has way better anti vibe :) I think the question is for the "Hobby Saw" type does it matter? And the answer is it depends....We spend a day swapping saws around and gabbing about saws so we wouldn't see the difference as much as a guy who runs it 10 hrs straight..efficiently. And really that's the point of this video. For so many of us, while the argument and over analysis is fun, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter as much as a saw just starting easy, running well, and being strong enough. And while for some the speed and power is the hobby, ( I'm guilty from time to time but not ALL the time ) for others it's the tinkering, still others things like brand history. To each his own.
Those conditions are about to end! Single digit temps and snow are on tap for the weekend. Glad we grabbed the nice day when we had the chance.
As usual a very nice and interesting video. But at 8 minutes you forgot to shout timber.
Hey Marty ironhorse sent me great vid
Bob, I think they are worthwhile. I have four of them, now - 660, 360, 361, and 440. The first three are doing fine. The last, I had to rebuild after it ate a circlip. My fault, I think. I hate circlips. I have the piston back on and have cleaned it up ready to reassemble, but it is just to damn cold outside for me to put it back together right now. I think it will be fine. The best saw out of the four is the 360. It has never had a problem of any variety.
Yes those cir clips have that "long" tail, I cut them back to about .050in long in hopes they don't work their way out. I guess I never really had an issue with the 360 kit, I did move it along and the fellow running it hasn't reported any issues. I personally like the 660's best for the kits. Mainly because after learning how to build them and work past the issues as delivered, they have proven to be a solid saw. In my mind a testament to the base design! I never got the 361 right or the blue version. But also haven't spent the time doing the R&D, even the onliine R&D! Moved onto the 372 based kits & clone. They have been carnage with the exception of the g372. But not done yet so not ready to paint that picture. About ready to take a vacation on the 372 based AM stuff and go back to the 361's to see if they can be like the 660's 2.0
afleetcommand my 361 is doing fine, now. I did replace the tank vent on the 360 with a Stihl vent, because you did but it was not bad. I just replaced it out of an over abundance of caution. I like the 360 because it is my lightest 60 cc saw. It has a 20 inch Total bar and LGX chain. The initial carb setting on all the kit saws, suck. I set them to about 1.25 turns out on both jets and tune from there. The carb on my 440 sucks. The choke butterfly likes to stay closed at half choke. I am going to replace it. I will shine up that butterfly plate, later. My 660 is doing fine and cuts like a dream with a 28 inch bar.
afleetcommand someone on utube computed the lateral force the ears on circlip impose to the circlip and it was negligible even at high rpms. A greater problem is the metallurgy and spring tension of the circlip and whether it was bent or damaged during insertion. I also think the groove dimension is also very important. If the circlip is not installed perfectly in the groove it may come out. The critical one is the one on the intake side. After I got the circlips in I take an old wrist pin and insert it in the piston and tap it lightly to insure the circlip is seated as good as it can be.
Ever catch a circlip in the eye? Happened years ago. Fortunately I always have to wear reading glasses now when working on saws, so I'm "protected".
Spike60 fortunately, I wear glasses, too. Thanks to my years in the Corps as a radar maintenance chief and instructor in electronics. Microwave energy has given me cataracts on both eyes. Not to mention hearing loss thanks to big bore electronics😀
I think it is balsa wood.🧑🚀
Soft pine my butt. How about water oaks? Even hickory is harder than maple and ash is soft, which is why they make kitchen matches out of it. Frozen wood can be tough if they have sap in them. The last maple I cut was 24 inches and it did not give me any problem with my H-455 Rancher. Actually, it was soft compared to white oak and hickory. The hickory I was cutting was so hard it threw sparks from the chain and smoked the chain on the 455 pretty quickly. I had to finish cutting it with my 360 and 660. All were running 3/8, .050, 72 chain, except the 660 which ran an 3/8, .050, 84 chain. All LGX chain, sharped before first use.
What is the name of the boots bobs wearing?
no idea really.
Labonville. Good warm boot, still available from them. In their catalog for $269. #24128 I think. They used to have more private labeled boots, but have backed off of that and moved towards the recognizable brand names. Either way, they don't mess around with low grade products. Everything is top quality.
Bob Conyea thank you for responding. I will check em out. Price not an issue... I look for quality. Funny you mentioned that. I’m watching every vid y’all have.
Fun stuff.
Sir. You got a nice nod from Ironhorse.
Dang that looks like fun. Can you adopt me?
them husqvarna from 80-90's are great saws, mine last forever. stock you cant go wrong, why make them cut 2 seconds faster then stand and have a rest. Better to plod on and cut more than rush and have to rest more. Nice vid
Sugar maple otherwise known as rock maple in other places. Funzies
yup...and after a month of freezing.....
Southern Live oak has a density of 1216 kg/m3; maple has a density of 600-750 kg/m3, so you tell me which one is harder. I have cut quite a few maple trees and they are about on par with white oak. I have never cut frozen wood. I try to cut wood when it is a tad warmer. 😀
So it seems....I happen to really enjoy working this time of year out side. Spent several years as a teenager working on the family farm in Alabama. Clearing & Pulling fence line, hay, cutting pulp wood..... Sometimes wonder if the result is now I prefer these climates. Don't have to worry about bugs from October through to May..
BTW we have Oak here as well, about 1/4 of the tree's on my place are Oak. I've been leaving them. Reason the Maples and Ash have been on the menu is first the "Ash Borer" and second taking out many of the "tapped" maples to allow the new growth w/o taps to take over. An investment for my kids.
You could be/probably are right, although we have hickory (bitternut) which is more dense than hard maple and it is easier to cut, unless the bark on a big one has dried out, then the sparks fly, so I think there is something conditional to the properties of the wood in addition to density, probably more than one something.
At 15-16.00 my thoughts exactly--lets cut some wood-throw some chips -put down the stop watch.Yall need to test out a homelite xl-12 with a bow on it!! my favorite..
Hey-I am in South West Georgia-come down cut some pine and hard wood with us--let you try out some bows...
As a teenager earning money to go piss away racing dirt bikes, I use to spend time in Alabama running bow saws. For the pulp wood I was tasked with, they were tough to beat. Unique. And of course that's the point. Every place has their challenges and tools specialized to meet those challenges. BUT if we can have a little fun poking and starting discussion...that's the definition on win..:)
And the more folks who "pile" on the better...:)
Walter, does Bob have his channel? I can't find it anywhere on UA-cam!
Nope, this is where he spends time..:) ( Fortunately 4 me )
Thanks a lot for the answer, Walter! I bought these days many tools from what I saw in your videos, Husqvarna and Stihl, they don't really sell themselves to individuals, but they sold me after all!
You are right, Bob. You never do not know what you are getting from Farmertec. If I bought four deco valves, maybe two of them will work, as intended, otherwise I am holding my finger on the deco valve until it runs. Carbs and pistons are about the same way 50% failure rate. Walt, why don’t you get a metal detector and scan trees for taps, Mark them and cut out the section with taps. It is a lot better than eating up chains.
Have one. Doesn't find those deep ones, mostly just the ones close surface. And those I can see where they are most of the time. Would take a very expensive one to find all the taps. And often I just cut the butt off the tree. A $20 dollar chain once a year or so is better than another $1000 on top of the $500 spent trying the concept, but I figured you knew that right? Just testing?..:)
I understand what you mean John; always wondering if the good stuff to bad stuff ratio is going to make the order worth while. On a side note, what temp do you smoke meat at?
Hey men .you need to get more saws .
I know .i know .i know .
Ha ha ha .
Rrr