28 MPG...kinda
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Hydrogen prices are high. Currently the price for a full tank of hydrogen is around $180/per tank, which gets you around 300 to 320 miles. So how do you even get close to $0.28/mile when you are paying triple that? Well you have to account for the $15,000 fuel card that you get when you buy this car. So find out how long you can drive before you hit an average of $0.28/mile.
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This car is truly a burden
I wonder how it would compare _if_ you used $2 / kg? As Hysata claims: "Our technology will enable hydrogen production of below US$1.50/kg per kilogram by the mid-2020s". Thanks for your updates!
The author forgets to mention that a used certified Mirai costs 1/3 the cost of the Lexus. It's not just fuel cost which, if that stays the same, Toyota and all the rest have made a major miscalculation.
can you try to interview an FCV engineer on the channel sometime? would be lit
I get 250-270 max fill up every time and it’s over 180$ to fill up
430 miles here with eco and AC ❤ I’m happy !
Really so driving conservative does make a difference?
Average US driver 14,000 miles per year, at 320 miles per $180.00 fill up card will last 2 years
After 2 years you spent $11,000 per year. $0.78 per mile total cost of ownership.
When the fuel card runs out, park car at Toyota dealer with keys and walk away as residual value has to be close to $0.
360-365 on Eco - AC not on - 275-289 with AC on most of the time ...
what if we played bumper cars with it
just energy?
my 2023 bolt euv costs me $6 to go 100 miles.
like you that's a rounded estimate, not exact science estimate since weather plays on these things.
that's a nice day with no heat or just ventilation at most running.
and keeping more at 105 kmh instead of 110kmh.
even with the card, those numbers would scare me that i'll have to be paying that soon, or get rid of the car.
imagine that's a factor in the depreciation.
How much does it cost if need to replace hydrogen tanks or fuel cell and how many years do they last
The fuel cell stack is ~$37k, they're designed to last ~150-200k miles. No idea on the tanks... Maybe 10-12yrs?
I've seen a person hit 200k miles with the original engine, and he only replaced the suspension and the brakes. The tank needs a replacement after 15 years.
I have a 2012 chevy malibu 2 4l. I getting 28.6 mpg.😊
My EV costs 2-3 cents a mile.
dumb question - can you just buy your own hydrogen from an industrial supplier
Gotta have a way to store it and pump it... Not feasible
it's the filling part that's the issue. you can actually even make your own hydrogen with some water and electricity if you feel inclined. even with some stuff you might even have laying around your house.
it's storing high pressure hydrogen and transferring it to the car where things get tricky.
To just pick out one example, because hydrogen is the element that just doesn't play by anybody else's rules, it can actually warm up when it expands.
enough warming and it gets hot. hot hydrogen would be two legs of the fire triangle. if you don't like explosions, this should be avoided.
so the solution is to fill the tank a little and check to see what condition the gas is in before proceeding. sometime that means waiting a bit before continuing to fill the tank.
if you were just to open the valve and let the two tanks equalize, assuming things didn't immediately break due to the sudden change in pressure, the high heat increase would create a very dangerous situation.
I'm of the belief this can be addressed, and may even be talking with others to see what can be done about this, but for now it's so dangerous to fill a hydrogen car yourself (without a special station) that I would heavily discourage you from trying.
now if you had a low pressure FCEV scooter/e-bike go nuts. but those don't exist yet, as far as I know.
Just sell it and chalk it up to lesson learned. Never be the first to invest in new tech. Is a big risk just so you can have bragging rights on your block.
The ES is Avalon length.
Better compare a battery EV with a H2 EV and not a gasoline car.