How cruise ships got so big
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2023
- Today’s cruise ships are several times as big as the Titanic.
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Cruise ships are freaking big. They’re the biggest passenger vessels humans have ever built. In size and appearance, they look nothing like almost any other boat. So how did they get that way?
The predecessor of today’s cruise ships was the ocean liner: big, beautiful ships that sailed across the Atlantic. But ocean liners had a totally different purpose from cruise ships: They were for transportation. Everything about them was designed to facilitate an ocean voyage from one continent to another.
But air travel changed that. Planes eliminated the main reason to take a ship somewhere, and ocean liner business plummeted. So the industry pivoted and began selling a ship as the destination itself. The cruise ship was born. But the ocean liners, built for a voyage, weren’t ideal for the purposes of a cruise, and over the next few decades, the cruise ship began its evolution. And it has culminated in the behemoths we see today.
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You can check out some of Peter Knego's own videos on cruises here: / @midshipcinema
Transport Revolutions: Moving People and Freight Without Oil: www.google.com/books/edition/...
Deck plans for ships like the MSC Meraviglia: www.cruisemapper.com/deckplan...
More on the history of ocean liners and the S.S. France, later renamed S.S. Norway: www.classicliners.net/SSNORWAY...
Queen of the Fleet by Jay Clarke: www.washingtonpost.com/archiv...
More information on the difference between ocean liners and cruise ships:
cruise.blog/difference-betwee...
www.marineinsight.com/naval-a...
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Not gonna lie, I can't wait for another "Titanic" catastrophe. "She was unsinkable!" "We don't need lifeboats for EVERYBODY." "Nobody could have foreseen such a tragedy." "It was a freak accident, nobody is at fault."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ugh, I hate cruises. Talk about how they pollute, talk about how the overwhelm small towns...
@@tuanoful ++++++
Hi there, my name is Grant and I am an architectural designer based in Washington Dc, and graduate scholar from Penn State University. My research is focused on ocean liners and architecture and the roll ocean liners played in inspiring the primary architectural philosophy of modernism. I wanted to point out that the graphic shown at 3:30 shows the Titanic and a quoted speed of 30 knots when the Titanic's top speed was actually 23 knots. A more appropriate graphic would have been of the RMS Queen Mary which had a cruising speed of 28.5 knots and top speed of 32 knots. On another note, the impact that ocean liners had on modern architecture, and particularly the architect Le Corbusier, is actually very interesting and would make for a great video. For example, mid century public housing is largely based on a design ideology derived from the ocean liner!
The displacement (tonnage) of a ship has nothing to do with internal volume.
Cruise ships are nice but kinda miss the romanticism and sense of adventure that come with ocean liners though. Preferably without icebergs or U-boats along the way.
What about a U-boat ocean liner? 😆
If you’re ever near LA, highly recommend touring the queen mary.
You can take cruise on smaller ships to more exotic “Exploration cruise” if you want that
Or without Tornadoes 🌀or Bad Conditions or 🌊Tsunamis
White privilege. Icebergs and U-boats should have been a humbling experience but greedy people never learn. Can't wait for the next 'titanic' catastrophe that cleanses the world of human garbage.
You almost got through the whole video without referencing Titanic once! Good effort.
The video would have drowned
Oceangate oceangate oceangate
They literally did though when they referenced the movie.
@@yeshummingbird That's why he said almost
@@yeshummingbird That's not what litterally means. 😢😭 I need to just let go . I know.
Don’t get me wrong, I love oceangoing and even cruise ships - once had a wonderful trip on the then-largest ship in the world, Oasis of the Seas - but there’s something…wasteful about them, like the feeling you get when you order a desert at a restaurant when you’re already fit to burst.
So much luxury and opulence crammed into a vessel that consumes so much just to stay afloat, all to be one day decommissioned instead of just placing all of that ashore where it might last. It might have been justified if these ships were actually taking you somewhere, but those days seem long over.
There could well come a time that ships like these become comfortable but slow alternatives to planes, and their inherent weight makes them more amenable to battery power.
Electric cruises could be a real game changer for everyone, and you don't need to decommission old ships to do it. Retrofitting is nothing new.
No, almost all ships are scrapped or sunk. Take examples of Navy Ships. Many Super-Dreadnoughts that survived World War 2 were replaced by Battleships, which means that the dreadnoughts were scrapped. Soon, battleships were scrapped.
What you just described is exactly how I feel about capitalism as our current global economic system...
Well done! ✊️
I usually only get desert at a restaurant if I'm feeling ill. My grandma always said it helps soak up all the nasty stuff.
@@TheAmericanAmericanthat's true, it's basically everything, not just cruises
hey Vox, can you compare emissions from cruise ships, liners and all that to other modes of travel ? I do not have the expertise to do this myself
Second this!
Third this!
You're just too lazy. You have access to the internet, the cumulative knowledge of all mankind. A grade school kid could do a project just sourcing Wikipedia.
According to an analysis, one individual on a typical cruise ship emits roughly 421.43kg of CO² per day. Alternatively, one individual staying in a high-end hotel, using carbon-heavy transportation and choosing higher carbon activities emits "just" 81.33 kg of CO² per day.
So yeah. It's pretty bad.
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I recently read a story that a cruise ship in the Netherlands is currently housing refugees. It’s docked in or near Rotterdam and is used as a refugee housing. Very useful way to provide shelter for those in need of it if you ask me
they even use those river cruise ships for housing
Yes! More cruise ships should be used for housing
Hoever the refugees like it so much that they refuse to move into available houses while the common dutch civilian has 0 possibillity to buy or rent a house.
Yeah the UK is trying to do that, but not with a cruise ship. It’s more like a floating prison.
Straight up. Since they're boats you can also take them to where housing is needed (hypothetically). Pretty interesting
Notice how they never made the mistake of saying it is unsinkable
Some researchers had found that they never claimed Titanic was unsinkable until after it sinked.
Fun fact the titanic was never called unsinkable
@@grahamkight9111
They never called it unsinkable until after it sank.
Whatever floats your boat ;-)
@@grahamkight9111 It was called unsinkable by the media but not by the White Star Line.
Me and me family went for a cruise on board the Sea Diamond in 2007. Two weeks after our trip, the Sea Diamond sank on 4/5/2007. We were honestly shocked that the ship we just sailed on was now under the sea. We were considering going on an Italian cruise in 2012, but the sinking of the Costa Concordia changed our minds.
Wow
Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice as they say. Go for that Italian cruise. It has been 12 years or so since them.
As someone who doesn’t like being around screaming kids when I’m on vacation, taking a cruise was quite possibly the worst thing I ever did.
They have adult only cruise ships 😁
It's all about timeing
Try Holland America.
You went on the wrong cruise line and/or the wrong time.
That’s silly lol there’s many many adult only cruise lines and adult only spaces
No mention of the huge environmental impact? 509 tonnes of sulphur oxides were emitted by the 218 cruise vessels sailing in Europe last year.
Vox don’t want to mess with their bottom line
And how much from planes?
Very disappointing. This was just an ad for cruise ships. Vox is so hypocritical
@@timotheataeShips owned by the Carnival Corporation emit 10 more sulfur dioxide than all European cars.
Airplanes are obviously terrible for the environment, but at least they provide a necessary function.
I love humanity
Sarcasm
I'm a bit sad that the ocean liner has come and gone. Although having nowhere near the amenities and comforts of a modern cruise ship and largely obsolete, there is something amazing about the graceful curves and sleek profile of an ocean liner, as opposed to the inelegant, almost absurd looks of today's condominiums at sea.
I love cruising, but I feel like it is a wasteful, ethically dubious industry which may not survive the privations of climate change and cutbacks. With flying suffering similar challenges, I do wonder if ocean liners may have a chance to shine once again- but I'm not holding my breath.
I like the idea of ocean liners, the QM2 is bucket list material. Contrary to how Vox portrays things though, there are still many ships that regularly embark passengers for trans-oceanic journeys. Typically, these craft are freight ships (container ships) that have 6-12 cabins for non-crew passengers, rather than being a dedicated passenger vessel. It's not exactly the same as travelling by ocean liner, but very much a different experience from being on a floating mall that essentially drives around in a circle at sea.
There are still a lot of "ocean liner" You can go from Japan to South Korea by ships. China to Japan by ships. In Indonesia they combine ocean liner with vehicle carrier. This video too focused of Western market. Ocean liner still alive and well..
@@falsch4761 I think the distinction there is that most of those trips are day trips, not requiring cabins for passengers. Usually in the west we'd call those ferries rather than ocean liners. Ferries and car RORO vessels are still passenger transport though, that's true.
@@falsch4761 Japan to Korea or China is hardly a trans-oceanic trip. More like a ferry than an ocean liner.
@@falsch4761 Yes, I am aware of carferries and cruiseferries- they are popular not just in Asia but in the Baltic, I've seen them before and they are quite cool. Nevertheless, an Ocean Liner does not just cross small straits or inland seas but do vast transoceanic crossings at dizzying speed- SS United States' top speed was 38.32 knots, or 70 km/hr.
Interesting. Ive never been on a big cruise ship myself, but in Scandinavia where I'm from we do have a lot of ferries on long overnight journeys that are about the same size as smaller cruise ships. Heck one of the ships on my nearest route, the Pearl Seaways (built in 1989) from Copenhagen to Oslo, did have a brief stint as a cruise liner sailing out of Hong Kong and Singapore around the turn of the millenium before being converted back into a car ferry as originally designed.
Still while these trips have a very practical purpose, they're also incredibly popular for "minicruises". Ferry companies like DFDS have figured out they can fit their ships out with restaurants, night clubs, arcades and a small pool, and sell round trip tickets, so one can get on in Copenhagen, spend the night onboard, wake up in Oslo, explore the city for a few hours, and then travel back to Copenhagen. These minicruises have become incredibly popular, especially with how much more affordable such short trips are compared to a full cruise for a week or even just half a week.
Yes, that sounds nice. Then you don't have to travel at night and sleep terribly, or spend the money on another night at a hotel, just to leave the next morning.
@@Iudicatio Yeah. Honestly though if you want quick travel through the night, then night trains are better, since you can also leave later and arrive earlier, but the night train between Copenhagen and Oslo was discontinued over 20 years ago, and political discussions to revive it have gone nowhere.
@@drdewott9154 I don't know if the night trains in Scandinavia are better, but when I mentioned sleeping terribly I also meant the trains in Germany. There are no sleeping cars and it's the same as sleeping in the car or the bus.
Here, on the other side of the world, it's not even an overnight ferry but BC ferries now has a Vacations portion including hotels for trips. We do have an overnight route, but it's 16h.
There's a limit to ships before it loses its sparkle. Keep in mind, you're on a ship that, at max capacity, serves well over 5000 people; amenities don't expand or shrink with demand; they're static. If all those 5000+ people want to eat at the same time, there will be lines, wait times for tables, and slow service. If all those 5000+ people want to be out in the sun, you're likely to not find any space at all. Getting on or off the ship is a pain.
Bigger is not necessarily better.
And that's not even taking into account the amount of fuel needed to move that floating city or all the wasted food (oh yes...many passengers are notorious for leaving half-eaten meals on their plates).
I disagree. I went 3 times on a cruise ships and even tho it can get crowded at the pool there is still so many things to do that it is hardly noticable there is so many ppl on the boat. As they said there are like 5-9 restaurants on the boat and one of them is open 24/7. Also not to mention there are sport fields,gym,casino,caffes....
This is why I prefer Celebrity, HAL, or Disney (at least when our kids go). Those lines generally operate smaller to mid size ships
I’m loving this series, it’s so well put together. Thank you! ❤🎉
Omg EmmaCruises! Your videos are so entertaining 😊
Thank you so much for making the difference between "liners" and "cruise" ships. Nothing makes my historical ocean liner loving heart hurt than hearing the Titanic called a "cruise" ship.
What is a 'crusie' ship?
@@gerry343 the video told you.
@@the4tierbridge CRUSIE ?
@@gerry343 oh.
Oops
As a nerd who loves ocean liners (especially the Titanic, as you can probably infer by my username..), this also hurts just a little bit inside.
Its amazing how big both ships and planes have gotten over the decades as populations have gone way up. Amazing how they can stay in the air or in this case the water.
you might not realise it so much, but technology still advances in even these well-established areas :)
And I think we've fallen back into the mindset that a ship will never sink, just because they are bigger and more modern.
Look at the one 'opening' in 2024. How everyone can safely evacuate a ship of that size is beyond me.
@@theinternetbutler lots of lifeboats
@@besthomepage5145 There is never enough life boats on any ship, because not everyone will survive anyway.
@@V3ntilator There are never enough lifeboats because lifeboats have requirements as to where they can be mounted on the sides of a ship and that they need to be able to be lowered from deck height to the ocean. That said, maritime law requires cruise ships to be able to accommodate 75% of it's passengers into lifeboats, with the crew and the remaining passengers to be evacuated into rafts.
Rafts are smaller, can be folded up when not in use and then deployed en masse directly into the water where they can be accessed via chutes.
This channel mastered narrating stories in a way that makes you feel you uncover the mystery yourself .. Thank you Vox👏👏👏
I thought the idea of a cruise "ship" was to experience the ocean. If all your doing is malls, spas, buffets and gambling then why not just go to Vegas.
Same with ocean liners, maybe both of them isolates from the "ocean experience".
Hard to generalize because there's a lot of different types of cruises, both in terms of ships and destinations. If you can understand the appeal of a resort vacation though, then understand the appeal of a resort where you wake up in a different location every day, and also understand the appeal of being out on the ocean, then you can understand the appeal of a cruise.
Besides that, cruises tend to be really affordable vacations if you want them to be (unless you're solo). They're also very simple to plan, all you really need to plan out is how to get to the ship and what you're doing for excursions, since food/lodging/transportation is all otherwise included in the fare. The huge megaships have a very diverse set of activities so they can be really well suited for families, Royal Caribbean's Icon is very clearly targeting that market. There's some other situational advantages, for example since I live around NYC a cruise is a vacation I can take public transportation to.
Exactly.
There is a bit of a shift in design philosophy now where the public spaces are trying to bring the ocean in a bit. Big tall windows and atriums that actually show the ocean etc. I mean if you’re going to be on the ship for 7 or 14 days, there is genuinely only so long one can look at the ocean and do nothing else.
Not all cruise ships are Vegas at sea. Mostly that's NCL (the 'Norway' is rolling over in its watery grave) and Carnival and its subsidiary, Costa, and its copy, MSC. Tacky, tacky, tacky. As well as 'Norway', I've been on Celebrity and Princess ships; they're comfortable and elegant, without letting you forget you're at sea. No malls. No water parks. No mini-golf or go-carts.
I love this series! Well done on the series so far 👏🏽
Love the history of the ocean liner being a mode of transport, but also love the modern cruise ships being a destination in themselves! Can't wait to go on Queen Mary 2 this September, followed by Symphony of the Seas a few months after!
absolutely in love with the Design, Explained series!!!!
My family went on cruises in the Mediterranean and they were some of my best childhood memories. While the ships themselves were great with good entertainment and food, the big draw for us was the day trips to different European cities such as Rome, Nice, Pisa, Naples, and Barcelona. We got to see all the sites in those cities during the day, which is much more convenient and cost-effective than planning several world-spanning vacations in Europe to different countries. I can't imagine how boring it would be to just cruise across the Atlantic for a week or visit another Caribbean beach every day. Cruise ships can still be about the destination, just with a new destination every day!
It’s very relaxing! I’m doing an English Isles cruise in 2025 to switch up from the Caribbean.
Finally a new video from you. They are rarer than Christmas presents. Nice job as always. Please , show up more often :)
This was cool to learn about! Thanks for researching, compiling, and presenting the history of cruise ships :D
I love the design centered videos from Vox! Please keep them coming!
Nicely done !!! Great footage of some vintage ships. Europa 66 and Liberte. Well done.
Just an FYI for anyone that sees this, Meraviglia might be the largest ship to dock in NYC but that’s because the docks can’t support the much bigger ships that instead dock in New Jersey, like Oasis of the Seas.
this was brilliantly explained thank you so much!
'There's no bow where Jack and Rose can say I'm The King of the World'
Or whatever
"It is the... sorry, *she*-"
Amazing boat reference
I want to hear more about port restrictions. I've heard some rumbling that some big ships won't be able to get under the Lions Gate Bridge to Vancouver in the future. I bet there are all kinds of interesting facts about port specifics that have changed geography, demographics, and industries like cruise ships.
Ocean liner: built to plough the rough ocean, keep up with ocean traffic schedule, and got the elegance.
Cruise ship: Giant, towering, blocky, floating apartment for pleasure cruises.
CMIIW
Queen Mary 2 being a cruise ship hiding in plain sight
@@user-bd3ds4ev5fEh, I wouldn’t say that… it does have a more cruise ship-ish superstructure but that’s about it really
@@urotaion9879 all her routes are cruises pretty much. The Atlantic crossing is also. What person would take qm2 Atlantic crossing to actually get where they need to go
@@user-bd3ds4ev5f fair point
@@user-bd3ds4ev5f Qm2 is actually completely different she’s engineered and built totally different then a regular cruise ship.
This was so well made!
always interesting topics from Vox!!!
I think what I’m getting is that there’s definitely a nostalgia for more glamorous times but with that comes its own challenges.
Does anyone else think this series is way too short? I'm loving all the transportation series but it's way to short in scope. This video should've been twice as long!
Powerful yet subtle concluding graph
I’ve been on 4 large cruise ships and I love them. There is just so much to do on them and you get really good value out of it. Transportation, unlimited food, entertainment, and housing all for one price (which can be less than $100 dollars per person per day).
that's so basic
great information, thx
I went on Harmony of the seas in May and I LOVED IT. It was a great vacation!
The next time you look in the mirror know that the face of evil is staring back at you.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 Good, I hope I become the worst person on the planet after my 19th cruise in December!
The background music of this video is unreasonably delightful & cheery and I am completely here for it!! 😄
I love the look of the old time ocean liners!
concise, interesting, great video thanks!
As the comments have said, be interesting to see the environmental impact a cruise ship has vs a similarly sized inner city neighbourhood with good public transport.
How would a hotel that sales to multiple countries be possible to compare to a public transport network? People aren’t moving to a cruise ship, and a city can’t sail around on vacation.
Huge environmental impact. These ships dumps a lot of grey water into the ocean.
HMMMM! Logical progression. And festinating lore. Carry on Number 1. 😁😁👍👍
great vid
i love the design, explained series
This was lovely.
I was just on that boat a few weeks ago. I wonder when they filmed the footage for this video
Mind I’ve been on a cruise ship during a storm, the waves were coming half way up the ship and they had to close the deck, you still barely felt a thing inside the ship.
I love Ocean liners! They had an elegant feel and look to them.
Took my first cruise this past weekend and now I’m all in on research and the history of boats
When my dad was a kid he sailed on all the liners. He said his favorites were the French line and Italian Line because of the food was just the best. He liked Cunard but wasn’t his favorite. I’ve sailed on the QE2 and QM2 and they are truly the last true liners. Dinner you have to wear a jacket in the restaurant and it does have a lot of amenities but not like the cruise ships. It’s not as flashy and is an enjoyable experience
They should make boats look different and unique! I heard someone, I think his name was Stockton? was doing similar innovation with submarines. I’m sure he’s doing great!
As someone who's fascinated by Ocean Liners of the last two centuries, this is my favorite vox video.
to be fair, ocean liners sound a lot better than cruise ship
Ok but can we please get ocean liners back? Like instead of catching a plane; I would like the next most efficient option to cross oceans without spending unnecessarily long on board. Like give me a floating office for the week so I can spend the weekend in Europe or whatever
A took a cruise to Alaska once. By far the most interesting part was going ashore to various towns and natural attractions, like visiting a glacier. Don't get me wrong, the ship was nice but any good hotel at a resort will provide the same things.
Yeah, for sure. The main benefit is trying multiple places. The flip side of that is if you really like a place, you can’t stay long enough 😂 It’s all swings and roundabouts
@@VicodinElmo That's true. Most port visits are a day at most, usually half of that.
Not really. Do hotels provide complimentary food all day? Are there shows and entertainment? Does the hotel take you to different places almost every day? That's just to name a few.
i love the black pearl
at least in the Baltic Sea cruiseferries are a very popular way to travel and cruises on them are also taken for leisure, although the ships are not quite as big as the cruise ships in the video. as ferries they transport cars as well and this includes a lot of trucks transporting freight. Finland especially is basically like an island in the Baltic Sea in relation to Central Europe.
I hope ocean liners will always stay around. It's nice to have the option if you don't like flying 😂
Nice video
I've done many travels alone, or for work or together with my wife, arranged all by myself or ourselves, since i am not a fan of mass tourism. One holiday though we did take a cruise in the Arabian gulf because i wsnted to show my wife the middle east after i had been there many times for work. And to avoid having to do several difficult border crissings by car (into and out of KSA for example) we decided that the only viable way to do that holiday was a cruise.
And much to my surprise i actually really loved it. It was so much fun to be on that ship. And it was actually quite possible to avoid the masses if we wanted to. Plus the stops in the several cities where we stopped to explore them really helped to be away from the masses of the ship for a bit.
So i would definitely do another cruise holiday one day.
I’ve been on 32 cruises now i absolutely love them best vacation money can buy!! And RC’s Voyager, Freedom and Oasis class ships are amazing!!
My family took the SS France (3:53) from NYC to Southampton in June of 1970. I was pretty small but remember some very specific parts. Taking an escalator down into the dining room and seeing the chandelier come into view as we descended. And a huge playground - or at least it seemed huge to a kid!
Good video.
This is a surprisingly decent video. The thumbnail could use some work, though.
Didn’t expect to see you here :)
I was on the SS Norway when she was in Bergen in the beginning of the 80s. It was an open day and an event. Sadly I was 5-6 and don't remember more. Nowadays Bergen is one of the largest cruise ports in Norway, maybe in Europe and the open days are long gone (I was on MSC Grandiosa (also christened by my name sister (whom I have seen live at another engagement) two years after Meraviglia) last fall and it was BIG! From my cabin almost at the front to the buffet, it took 6-7 minutes.)
What is that dreamy sound all the way at the end. I love it!
the beginnings of a stoke
@@toolbaggers Thanks!! :)
One thing that I don't think many people know is that even during the turn of the 20th century, the idea was already a thing. There were a few extremely small (about the size of a tender) purpose built cruise ships which were focused on luxury and leisure rather than speed and utility.
I absolutely love the Queen Elizabeth two. It was a wonderful way to travel. And I really hope that whenever this ship retires that they will replace it with another ocean liner.
That's capable of 600 more people onboard than Picard's Enterprise.
YTMND: 🎶 Captain Jean Luc Picard of the USS enterprise. 🎶
I so love cruise ships even tho i've never been in one
Cruise liners line of thinking is amazing. “Why go somewhere far away when you can leave and come right back?”
That’s called travel
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Here in Vancouver, Royal Caribbean deploys the 20-year-old Radiance-class ships (90,000 GT) on Alaska itineraries. Quantum-class ships (168,000 GT) sail out of Seattle because they can't fit under the Lions Gate Bridge.
However, the Radiance-class has an abundance of floor to ceiling windows so guests can view the majestic scenery of the Last Frontier, and can fit into smaller ports and fjords, as well as get closer to glaciers.
The Quantum-class takes too many notes from the Oasis- and Icon-class. No windows in public areas of the ship, and the interior is like a Vegas outlet mall. If I wanted that, I can get that on land.
The biggest cruise ship to come to Vancouver is the Norwegian Bliss, and it can only do so at low tide.
I’m glad to see this comment. I love the Radiance-class ships. Not only do they have so much focus outward on the ocean, they are aesthetically pleasing.
@@skycaptain3344 My dad used to drive limos so during Alaska season, he used to transport cruisers from their hotels or YVR, to the cruise ports at Canada Place or Ballantyne Pier. Whenever we were at Canada Place in the summer, he would point out the cruise ships to me. I remember the distinctive logos of Holland America, Princess and Celebrity ships, plus the Legend, Rhapsody, and Radiance of the Seas. I was too young to remember Sun Viking or Viking Serenade, though.
If I were to go on a cruise the RMS Queen Mary 2 would be top of the list, it's that old grand luxury you can't really find anymore that just I feel exemplifies the meaning of "Travelling at Sea" yk?
Got to see the Queen Mary 2 personally at Laem Chabang port in Thailand. Our ship is handymax in size and is way smaller than the Queen Mary 2.
Excelente vídeo
i’ve been on the meraviglia haha
Fascinating
Rms Aquitania is such a beautiful ship
ahhh , my ship!!! The Norway - worked on her the summer of '90 (13 weeks) - love that ship!!!
I sailed on the Norway in ‘89. Beautiful ship.
great vidio
I've been on the msc Meraviglia! Its was cool
This is the best summary of the differences between an ocean liner and a cruise ship I've ever encountered.
Sadly, this is the way the world goes. We don't build movie palaces anymore, we build cineplexes. We don't build castles, we build condos. It's sad to see the ocean liner going extinct, when the Queen Mary 2 is retired, I'm sure there won't be another. But these were all built for different eras. Time marches forward for better or worse.
Great music.
good knowledge
A floating amusement park with 4999 strangers for weeks in the middle of the ocean. I'm good, thanks
Well you can just ignore the 5000 other passengers, can't you?
All it takes is one Italian captain to sink one.
Funny how with everything there is to a modern cruise ship, the only one I'd want to sail on these days is the Queen Mary 2.
+1 on that
Yeah! I am an American citizen but live in Europe and I would love to travel back to the US that way one time.
First ride the train to Southampton. I have taken the train from where I live to Scotland before and it was a lot of fun.
And then ride Amtrak in the states if it's possible. I did it before and it was nice also, but it was 10 years ago and I've heard it's gotten worse since then.
Ocean liner fans explaining how qm2 is better than any other cruise ship (she is just a cruise ship with a black hull)
@@user-bd3ds4ev5f she is built like a ocean liner not a cruise ship, more old fashioned, faster can can go through the sea better
@@user-bd3ds4ev5f QM2 is definitely not just a cruise ship with a black hull. She is literally constructed and engineered differently, she can handle worse weather than cruise ships can and she can outrun them in a race as well.
I did it few times and I suggest everyone try it. It is an _experience_ . I'd do it again for artic or as a "sampler" for other countries. Mostly I prefer Island/destination hopping however a cruise ship is safer in accommodation, food, entertainment and security. The comedians and theatrical shows are very good. Day time events are fun. TIP: plan you excursions yourself in advance (cruise lines overcharge, also bring alcohol if you drink and room-service the mixers if needed) Also, regardless of "DECK", midship is the best compromise for smooth vs quite ride.
More people mean lower quality of life. This applies to large cruise ships. Imagine how much 7000 passengers degrade a port experience.
I honestly cannot think of a better way to ruin my vacation than to take a cruise ship.
Every single deep water port in Europe has been taken over and destroyed by these monstrosities and the evil people who use them.
Right ? if i wanted to stay in an overcrowded shopping mall, i'd just stay home ...
@@benjaminbouaoune4466 And being stuck with at sea with the type of person who would WANT to go on a cruise? Perish the thought.
These types of comments are always below every video on cruise ships. If you don’t like it, don’t go. They are nonetheless impressive feats of engineering and operation.
@@skycaptain3344 It’s not exactly like I commented on a video review of “Dad’s cruises 2003-2004”. And you’re right, they are impressive feats of engineering. Too bad those minds aren’t being put to better use.
Also, the reason why you see those comments on every video is because cruise ships are a blight on the planet. They are horrible, horrible monstrosities that attract the same kind of people that want visit Sandals Resort and visit Applebees on their way home.
Could not pay me to set foot on one of those floating malls/ petri dishes. Also passenger liners of 100 years ago were more akin to a cross ocean flight than a cruse. Ocean liners go A to B where as cruse ships wander around.
Cruise ships really are like the starships depicted in Star Trek!
Cruising has actually been around since the early 20th century; though, the ships were liners (and smaller vessels; not the flagships) occasionally chartered by a tour company. The first purpose-built cruise ship was RMS 'Caronia', owned by Cunard and put into service in 1949. (It could also be reconfigured into a two-class liner. But, it spent almost the entirety of its life as a cruise ship, doing annual world cruises.) The French Line then designed SS 'France', the line's new flagship in 1960, to be dual-purpose liner/cruise ship, and Cunard did the same with RMS 'Queen Elizabeth 2', which started sailing in 1969. Cunard tried sending RMS 'Queen Mary' and RMS 'Queen Elizabeth' on cruises; but, those ships just weren't fit for the tropics; they were trans-Atlantic liners through and through.
As mentioined above, 'France' had already been built to function part-time as a cruise ship. So, Norwegian Cruise Line didn't have to take out any barriers between classes when they converted the ship to 'Norway' in 1978-80; they just had to leave the sliding panels and retractable baffles between first and tourist class permanently open. Also, the superstructure is what's above the hull, not "above the deck" (every level is a deck), and, a missing detail about funnels (not "smokestacks"; these are ships, not factories) is that they didn't stay tall on top of taller superstructures because the ships still have to fit under certain bridges. So, as the top decks got higher and higer, but, the undersides of those bridges didn't, the funnels got more and more squat. Also also, while superstructures did get wider as ships became wider, what you show in your diagram is the superstructure getting longer, eating up the fo'c'sle.
I sailed on the 'Norway' twice. It was a fantastic ship and the mid-century modern design that could still be found in certain rooms and stair towers was so quirky and, yet, elegant. The double-height WIndward Dining Room--with it's black, starry-lit dome over a truncated cylinder of gold anodized aluminum, the wide staircase you had to descend to enter, and Jean Mandaroux's continuous mural, _Les plaisirs de la vie_, painted on 17 laquered panels running around all four walls--was the best room aboard; followed closely by the two-storey Club International, with those Neptune statues draped in garlands of real, jagged pink crystal. I've been on a couple of cruises since, with Celebrity and Princess, and, while those ships were fitted-out tastefully, none matched the 'Norway'. Maybe RMS 'Queen Mary 2' might. But, I haven't sailed on her... Yet.
QE2’s dimensions (963 feet long by 105 feet wide) were just enough so that she could traverse the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal. Her predecessors were too large to do either.
@@CJODell12 The two preceeding "queens", yes. 'Caronia; could easily fit through the canal, though.
@@bayousbambino427That’s what I meant. Caronia was built almost exclusively for cruising not transatlantic crossings.
Personally like sailing on cunard because of their reputation over the years and surviving the great depression
ENOUGH!!! My ship sails in the Morning! I wonder what's for Dinner....
I only disagree with that statement about: How we miss the old timey ships interior design styles and that people in the future will say they miss the designs from the 2020's. (I disagree. I think we are in a era that desperately needs reinvigorated creativity and passion to it's design and approach)