I was playing with game improvements and I as a player wasn’t getting better. My friend told me to get the jpx tour if I as a player want to get better. I made the switch my score dropped but now after 1 year playing these irons, I can divot, draw, and cut!!! Also the distances for jpx tour are with 10 yards ……..EVERYTIME! Now I’m playing golf. These clubs will let you know when you miss! Make the change! Thanks again for the video! 🎉❤
I’ve had them both I’m a mizuno fan but the p7mc when middled really does feel like butter. The little bit of extra perimeter weighting does help on off centre strikes. The 921 tour will be better if you play middle to toe on the face.
A good friend of mine told me if a golfer can manipulate the swing mechanics for a desired shot he potentially has more shots in the bag eg high low fade draw spin off that's a golfer who has ball flight control.
Each company has their craft. Driver: Ping / Taylormade Wood: All manufacturers Driving Iron: Taylormade / Srixon Irons: Mizuno Wedges: Titleist and Cleveland Putter: Titleist
I have been subscribed for about three years, and the last few weeks you seem to be swinging better than ever - longer and more consistent. Have you been getting in more practice due to the Covid 19 shutdown? Also, I seem to recall you mentioning an exercise program. As to these clubs, the TM P7MC wins in the looks department, but the extra spin with the Mizuno may help on firmer greens.
I play MP 18 blades at this moment and played MP irons before because nothing felt like a Mizuno iron but that new P7MC could make it in the 2021 bag. Very soft feeling, great feedback and easy to control/ work the ball. But I also noticed on the course with the demo iron that the flight was very high. Maybe a problem with windy conditions....but will test another shaft to try lowering the flight. at this moment the 921 Tour demo iron in the bag and also easy to control/work the ball, great feedback and of course soft feel but a little lower flight. Had also the same experience with distance. The P7MC seems to be longer. No hurry deciding because season is almost over and estimated delivery on Taylormade P7MC is 6-8 weeks (at that time it is Winter). Good comparison and just as you I could easily play both👍🏽
Question is who is forging the heads for Taylor Made? Endo is doing Callaway and Srixon and of course their in house brand Epon and many other Japanese domestic market clubs. I think Endo makes the softest feeling forged irons available.
@@xxthadeucexx you’re missing the point. What I mean is since when 34 degree 7 iron ( players version) started carrying 190+ (TM in this test) as previously only low lofted (29-31 degree) flew that much with wider sole e.g.
For some reason he hits the ball a lot further than others who test these irons on UA-cam with trackman or a quad and who have the same swing speed, ball speed, launch angle, smash etc. So I don’t understand why. I swing at 88-90 7 iron and I do not carry it close to 190 and it’s stronger than 34 degrees 🤣
I tested both these. I really wanted to like the TM bc they just look soooo nice (I prefer them over the 921 bc the 919 looked better imo) BUT hated the feel of the TM. They felt wayyyy too clicky and that's why I regretfully still like the feel and feedback of the 921 bc i really wanted to change it up but they're the gold standard for a reason. If you test them and can't feel or think they are the same then maybe get your hands checked. lol Cannot stress how different they feel and it just comes down to if you want a harder clickier iron or a softer thumpier iron. 🤘🏽
@@jordancalanchini6119 Hi Jordan! I’m currently a 2hcp trending back down studying to be an instructor. I currently play mp20’s MB’s 4-9 then vokeys from 46, 51.5, 55.75, & 60. If you’re single digits you’ll have NO problem with the P7MC. They’re easy to hit and I feel provide more feedback than the actual MB. If u are wary of your longer irons then combo-ing 4, 5, maybe 6 in the 770 and the rest MC. Only advice is have a hit with the 770’s first bc they were really hot for me when I tested em and u might want them bent weaker to bridge the gaps. Hope this helps. 🤙🏽
@@MichaelNewtonGolf They are the same size, have the same offset, and almost identical lofts (most are identical, only a few are .5 degrees stronger). Given that, I think the comparison would be interesting, ie. forged cavity back vs forged foam filled from the same manufacturer. Thank you for your reply. I am a subscriber to your channel and watch all of your videos.
I've got the 919 Tours and was wondering the same thing. I have to say though, that the black line thing on the back is not as nice as the plain look of the 919s. And if you're playing the 919s you know how ridiculously wonderful they are to hit... so would you really change for roughtly the same thing... that looks worse? ;)
You really can only test that scientifically with a robot. He's making micro movements adjusting the face angle and not able to hit it exactly the same each time.
@@jaredvotaw8610 I think a lot of stuff feels similar on most shots - especially bad ones. But a perfect flushed 8 iron with an MP64...I dunno I've never felt anything like that. Granted I've never hit the p7mb, but I have hit the old tour preferred MBs. I was at the range 2 nights ago with my buddy and he has the Nike Vapor blades or whatever they are. Flushed shots feel nice, but it's just not the same. I think the sound might have a bit to do with how we perceive feel. I think the Mizuno crowd, which I'm a part of, is a bit of a cultish like following. I mean there's no question the irons perform. I talk smack on people for being brand washed on TM for drivers (I play SIM atm 😂), but really, many of us Mizuno guys are brand washed when it comes to irons.
@@Brooks_Cupcake As a 5 HC you're right. I don't always hit the sweet spot. What's your GHIN#? Let me know and I'll tell you how often you hit the center of the face lol.
@@Brooks_Cupcake Anyone playing club level tournament golf has a GHIN and anyone can look that up at www.ghin.com/. You sir are an internet poser who probably can't break 80 on your best day lol.
@@Brooks_Cupcake The grint what? Why don't you just write it on a napkin and show a picture of that? You need to stop posing son. Does your mom know you've been using her laptop? Turn it off now!
Your machine is juiced. There is no way its carrying 190 on that swing speed. On a past video, you compared the 919 Tour vs the Srixon 785. Distance was 165 and 169 respectively. Spin was 7100 and 6500.
Which.... really means the Taylormade P7MC is a better iron to him because he's British and the British are Mizuno fans because their pros play them. If he says he's on the fence, you can adjust that to what he really thinks is the P7MC is better but he'll never say it! Cheers! ;)
The mizuno feel is overrated these days. Certainly the pxg gen 3s are much better in feel - I would even say in performance too. Be interesting how the compare now to the likes also of apex pro cf21. Indeed I tested the p7mc and they felt and looked much my p760s which I preferred also to the mizuno.
I was playing with game improvements and I as a player wasn’t getting better. My friend told me to get the jpx tour if I as a player want to get better. I made the switch my score dropped but now after 1 year playing these irons, I can divot, draw, and cut!!! Also the distances for jpx tour are with 10 yards ……..EVERYTIME! Now I’m playing golf.
These clubs will let you know when you miss! Make the change! Thanks again for the video! 🎉❤
2 favorite irons out right now, perfect size with all the feel but don’t give you anxiety in the mid/longer irons
I'm not really looking for distance in my 7 iron, so I'd take the more consistent dispersion and spin of the 921.
Great comparison. I have the 921 on order, but didn't get a chance to hit the p7mc's. This really put my mind at ease. Thanks!
What accounts for the large difference in spin in similarly constructed heads?
Tour 921 vs ZX7 please
I’ve had them both I’m a mizuno fan but the p7mc when middled really does feel like butter. The little bit of extra perimeter weighting does help on off centre strikes. The 921 tour will be better if you play middle to toe on the face.
Jpx921 all day for me
A good friend of mine told me if a golfer can manipulate the swing mechanics for a desired shot he potentially has more shots in the bag eg high low fade draw spin off that's a golfer who has ball flight control.
Each company has their craft.
Driver: Ping / Taylormade
Wood: All manufacturers
Driving Iron: Taylormade / Srixon
Irons: Mizuno
Wedges: Titleist and Cleveland
Putter: Titleist
I have been subscribed for about three years, and the last few weeks you seem to be swinging better than ever - longer and more consistent. Have you been getting in more practice due to the Covid 19 shutdown? Also, I seem to recall you mentioning an exercise program. As to these clubs, the TM P7MC wins in the looks department, but the extra spin with the Mizuno may help on firmer greens.
I play MP 18 blades at this moment and played MP irons before because nothing felt like a Mizuno iron but that new P7MC could make it in the 2021 bag. Very soft feeling, great feedback and easy to control/ work the ball. But I also noticed on the course with the demo iron that the flight was very high. Maybe a problem with windy conditions....but will test another shaft to try lowering the flight. at this moment the 921 Tour demo iron in the bag and also easy to control/work the ball, great feedback and of course soft feel but a little lower flight. Had also the same experience with distance. The P7MC seems to be longer. No hurry deciding because season is almost over and estimated delivery on Taylormade P7MC is 6-8 weeks (at that time it is Winter). Good comparison and just as you I could easily play both👍🏽
Thanks Mike! Been looking for just this video!
The perfect comparison I was looking for. Cheers!
Surely it must depend on the steel being used high carbon low carbon, results in the steels hardness which in turn may feel hard or soft.
Tried the MC and MB. Loved the looks, loved the feel, got a set of MB's coming in the mail, .
Congrats! 👍
Michael - would love to see your Wilson Staff blades up against the TM P-7MB’s. Any chance?
Can we get a P7MC vs T100 comparison?
👍
@Eric King 7-MC all day on feel and looks, numbers were very similar from my testing on Trackman.
You hit the P7 MC’s very well in your review video and this one Mike
Question is who is forging the heads for Taylor Made? Endo is doing Callaway and Srixon and of course their in house brand Epon and many other Japanese domestic market clubs. I think Endo makes the softest feeling forged irons available.
So srixon and callaway irons has softer feeling than the rest of brands?
@@lacabala31 Endo forged Irons in my experience .... but a cast iron with a marshmallow of a golf ball could also "feel" soft so YMMV,
@@lacabala31 Not all Callaway Irons are forged by Endo so do your homework
great comparison video Mike
Mizuno every time.
How is he getting 190 carry with very similar ball speed, height, and spin as earlier videos with P7MC where he was closer to 178 carry?
I was thinking same thing
Same question...my clubhead speed, launch, spin, smash are similar with a 7 iron, but my normalized carry is closer to 168-172
Its all in the shaft .. the question is which one is it
A bit confusing to be honest - how can the players iron suddenly carry 190+ yards? I feel these must be lofted lower than 34 degrees don’t you think?🧐
Considering Mike is 6'5", 190 is not crazy. Chris Ryan plays his 7 iron at 185. It's the indian not the arrow.
@@xxthadeucexx you’re missing the point. What I mean is since when 34 degree 7 iron ( players version) started carrying 190+ (TM in this test) as previously only low lofted (29-31 degree) flew that much with wider sole e.g.
He’s swinging good today. Or he has his launch monitor set to a really high elevation.
How do pros hit over 190 y with 34 degrees of loft really? I can barely hit mine 155y lol. Amazing.
For some reason he hits the ball a lot further than others who test these irons on UA-cam with trackman or a quad and who have the same swing speed, ball speed, launch angle, smash etc. So I don’t understand why. I swing at 88-90 7 iron and I do not carry it close to 190 and it’s stronger than 34 degrees 🤣
I tested both these. I really wanted to like the TM bc they just look soooo nice (I prefer them over the 921 bc the 919 looked better imo) BUT hated the feel of the TM. They felt wayyyy too clicky and that's why I regretfully still like the feel and feedback of the 921 bc i really wanted to change it up but they're the gold standard for a reason. If you test them and can't feel or think they are the same then maybe get your hands checked. lol Cannot stress how different they feel and it just comes down to if you want a harder clickier iron or a softer thumpier iron. 🤘🏽
whats your handicap and how forgiving did you find the p7mc? looking in to some for me as an 8hc, maybe a combo with p770
@@jordancalanchini6119 Hi Jordan! I’m currently a 2hcp trending back down studying to be an instructor. I currently play mp20’s MB’s 4-9 then vokeys from 46, 51.5, 55.75, & 60.
If you’re single digits you’ll have NO problem with the P7MC. They’re easy to hit and I feel provide more feedback than the actual MB. If u are wary of your longer irons then combo-ing 4, 5, maybe 6 in the 770 and the rest MC. Only advice is have a hit with the 770’s first bc they were really hot for me when I tested em and u might want them bent weaker to bridge the gaps. Hope this helps. 🤙🏽
Why are you focusing on numbers when you're talking about feel? I don't get it.
Please compare the current P770 vs the previous P770.
Sorry don’t have the old 770 available.....two completely different irons tho...
@@MichaelNewtonGolf They are the same size, have the same offset, and almost identical lofts (most are identical, only a few are .5 degrees stronger). Given that, I think the comparison would be interesting, ie. forged cavity back vs forged foam filled from the same manufacturer. Thank you for your reply. I am a subscriber to your channel and watch all of your videos.
Enjoy your videos, thanks! Are the JPX 921 tours worth the upgrade from 919 tours in your opinion?
I personally prefer the 921 tour shape and look against the 900 tour
919*
I've got the 919 Tours and was wondering the same thing. I have to say though, that the black line thing on the back is not as nice as the plain look of the 919s. And if you're playing the 919s you know how ridiculously wonderful they are to hit... so would you really change for roughtly the same thing... that looks worse? ;)
I have both...The 921 has a slightly thinner topline and less offset which I prefer...
Michael, r u gaming the Ping Blueprints? If so, you like?
Mizuno all DAY!!!!!
Mizuno's 🔥🔥🔥
The Mizuno wins on dispersion and consistency.
You really can only test that scientifically with a robot. He's making micro movements adjusting the face angle and not able to hit it exactly the same each time.
These are fitting heads tho isn’t this more of a test of which companies fitting cart components feel best?
There is no way that Taylormade😤 thing feels like my Mizuno...
🙂 just kidding good review.. not kidding but just joking around...lol
Regarding the metallurgy, The Originator, Mizuno or The Imitator, TaylorMade (2000 lb press blah, blah)? Mizuno all day long.
Mizuno > everything else. Always.
Except Titleist but I am with you!
I don’t understand how people pick up such a difference between feel of forged clubs, mp20 and p7mb feel identical to me!
@@jaredvotaw8610 I think a lot of stuff feels similar on most shots - especially bad ones. But a perfect flushed 8 iron with an MP64...I dunno I've never felt anything like that. Granted I've never hit the p7mb, but I have hit the old tour preferred MBs. I was at the range 2 nights ago with my buddy and he has the Nike Vapor blades or whatever they are. Flushed shots feel nice, but it's just not the same. I think the sound might have a bit to do with how we perceive feel. I think the Mizuno crowd, which I'm a part of, is a bit of a cultish like following. I mean there's no question the irons perform. I talk smack on people for being brand washed on TM for drivers (I play SIM atm 😂), but really, many of us Mizuno guys are brand washed when it comes to irons.
@@nv00021 especially compared to taylormade trash
Try a srixon
Mizuno feel has been beaten a while ago. Miura has them beat
P7MC all day !!!!
I've hit them both. I thought the 770 was far better feeling than either.
I agree but the 921 Tour was still better feel than the P7MC. Sadly I hit both in cold weather, any miss hit and they feel really hard in that!
@@Brooks_Cupcake As a 5 HC you're right. I don't always hit the sweet spot. What's your GHIN#? Let me know and I'll tell you how often you hit the center of the face lol.
@@Brooks_Cupcake What is your GHIN#? Anyone can post any HC they want.
@@Brooks_Cupcake Anyone playing club level tournament golf has a GHIN and anyone can look that up at www.ghin.com/. You sir are an internet poser who probably can't break 80 on your best day lol.
@@Brooks_Cupcake The grint what? Why don't you just write it on a napkin and show a picture of that? You need to stop posing son. Does your mom know you've been using her laptop? Turn it off now!
Your machine is juiced. There is no way its carrying 190 on that swing speed. On a past video, you compared the 919 Tour vs the Srixon 785. Distance was 165 and 169 respectively. Spin was 7100 and 6500.
Mizuno Koolaid mmmmm
Which.... really means the Taylormade P7MC is a better iron to him because he's British and the British are Mizuno fans because their pros play them. If he says he's on the fence, you can adjust that to what he really thinks is the P7MC is better but he'll never say it! Cheers! ;)
The mizuno feel is overrated these days. Certainly the pxg gen 3s are much better in feel - I would even say in performance too. Be interesting how the compare now to the likes also of apex pro cf21. Indeed I tested the p7mc and they felt and looked much my p760s which I preferred also to the mizuno.
The grooves on the back of the Taylormade were a mistake. Ruins the look of the head for me, personally.
Short answer, no. Long answer, fuck no.
Mb...
Chinese Taylormade Garbage feel better than Mizuno ???? HAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA Pretty funny like your 200 yard seven iron shots Bro ...
Crazy how there’s humans like the look of the mizuno 🤢