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Ill give you some actual constructive critisism (because I like your vids), I understand the need for stretching your videos out for max watch time but you do too much describing (mentioning your opinion and communities within the same couple sentences, you reinforce your opinions a lot too) and not enough hard hitting points to justify the extra talk. Example, your shaman intro, felt like it took 2 mins to get to the updates and changes.
@ivanmeza7089 this wasn’t a class changes video, this was a video based on How the class did season 1 Some changes How they ended in the season How they look heading into season 2 based on all 3 specs But thank you for the critique
@@TheComebackKidsill admit I did click on it thinking it was a tldr about class changes in the upcoming patch. I'll take it back a little and say this video does what's its intended to do then. I love the nuances because I don't play enough anymore to know what the changes imply, so i dont mind the extra commentary, but I think I will stand by my "shaman intro" example though, bit wordy is all! Keep at it tho, there's probably more and more dudes like me who listen to wow stuff more than they actually get time to play it 😅
As someone who's been a Shadow Priest main for many years, I feel myself drifting more and more away from it. With the amount of mobility required in the new raid, I'm not very excited for it to be honest. Which is really sad in my opinion because this is THE Void and Shadow expansion. I'm really sad they're not doing more for it with Shadow Priest.
This video is pretty in-line with what I’m hearing. Fire Mage, Destro Lock, BM Hunter, Ele Sham, Aug all looking like the best DPS. It’s 100% a ranged season if you look at the dungeon design. Crazy amount of melee punishing mechanics where you have to move out, lose uptime, etc. BM Hunter will shine. This season has a huge amount of movement even for ranged too.
PLaying a meta spec, or being top damage sucks. Because then nothing you do is special and no one cares. You play a bastard spec and still top or get close? people praise you and you are rewarded!!
Great to see Arcane is getting much attentions from devs right now, the changes are not fully perfect for the community because of Leydinker talent-path are still too expensive, but yeah, we'll se what happen in the next change. go LIT ARCANE!
You forgot about Fury warrior, we got nerfs after nerfs during whole season 1, ended up bottom dps in raid and mediocre at best in m+. Season 2 changes are looking grim as well
Playing Warrior without a premade is just suicide. Least utility out of any class which is always bad in pugs cause you can do little to save or impact a key. It’s a fun class but it’s just cringe how blizzard loads some classes toolkits but leaves warrior as a damage monkey.
Do I have this right? All the classes that are currently rocking the charts are getting even more updates to make them even better? Meanwhile locks and others just keep getting pooped on. Got it.
I’ve been playing it for roughly a week, destro is performing solid 100%, doesn’t mean the class as a whole isn’t severely lacking and feels outdated Just my opinion
I think you are really off when it comes to warlocks. Destro is killer in late season and looking to be even more beast in 11.1 acording to PTR right now. Yes Alliction needs some love, but you are dooming an entire class just because one spec is meh... Come on :D
Tierlist and other winners/losers lists a few weeks before the patch actually comes out are so useless because we have like still a few weeks of changes and number tuning going on...
"its only ptr changes will come. the patch just came out wait until mythic tuning. they've been so busy with tuning the raid wait til 11.5. sorry they're focusing so much on 12.0 maybe wait until 12.0 ptr, they'll fix it"
i love that blizzards fix to talent issues are adding and subtracting little sub talents instead of just changing the spells ... LOL. when you cant fix the problem, want to create more problems dont fix whats not working ...
Hey guys I haven't played in 10+ years. They can't recover my druid so I decided to have fun and made a mage. Something different. What's a good spec for the war within. Right now I'm Fire
Pack leader changes are largely garbage and still not exciting. The generic beasts are just tied to your kill command... Wow.. It was actually in a better state for survival before the changes because of the free raptor/mongoose and the reductions to butchery.
i mean like you r highlighting arcane mage cause of the new talents, did you know that they r useless because intution is "nether precision" just with a other name and arcane rebound is not playable cause u need to waste 2 talent points? Btw Intuition is bugged right now, it decreases the damage of arcane barrage instead of increasing.
@@MikeyJ28 yes but i mean u understand what iam about to say? Its too early and the things mentioned and i mentioned just one little thing about arcane...are like pretty useless
The problem with classes are videos like this.. as an original player the game was better when every week some guy looking for clicks and views didn’t make some opinion based video that lazy players flock to and basically copy. Congratulations on being part of killing the originality of the game. You create all these cry babies who get on hands and knees begging blizzard to make all these changes.
tbh u have no idea what ur talking about when it comes to arcane. They have completley destroyed the specc and it seems like its going to be none competeable in m+ again. They were good first weeks but thats it. New talents? they shattered the 2-target cleave with that talent and leydrinker is never going to be played cause its blocked with the 2 talent node that gives more mastery.
It sucks that demon hunter feels like a spec, not a class. Its boring man its the same, its just meh. Shadow priest has been forgotten for years. The spec has so much potential but they keep ignoring it. Fury warrior is so meh to play you spam skills everything feels basically the same. even Arms, they feel like meh
Not trying to be rude...but are you out of content to do ?? Because why make a video like this when the 11.1 patch is still on PTR and going through balance as we speak. So this video is very very premature to have been made.
It’s a few weeks away, they just dropped two major class change updates Yes content is low on retail for season one for obvious, but 11.1 is coming soon, I’m excited for it, and so is everyone
@TheComebackKids Don't get me wrong, I am super excited as well. But these kinds of videos are a little deceiving. You already got FOTM Andy's waiting to play the top class while shitting on the other classes that aren't. Maybe it is just me, but these seem to lead people in certain directions like sheep. Not trying to bust your balls. I think you have others that do that. I normally love your videos. It is just these kinds make me...🤮
What a silly question to ask haha. Yes, everyone is out of content because it’s the end of the season and there’s nothing to talk about other than PTR stuff.
I would put Unholy DK up there. It’s doing what it always does and snowballs into becoming stronger as an expansion progresses and content gets harder. It’s one of the few specs that has a bunch of viable and unique builds to play depending on if you’re raiding, doing high keys or low keys.
I love sod to death buddy, but literally the time investment for views are 10000000% dead TBC is coming so I’ll be there, but I’m loving the shit out of war within Those devs on sod are wack
I would at least come back when the new raid and dungeon goes to the live servers. That will get a lot of attention since there’s nothing else going on in WoW for a while.
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Gotta love shaman getting buffs, while there are classes suffering.
Let’s go blizz!
Probably because Metzen is actually playing the game lmfao
@HEEHEEBOII metzens main is actually a Paladin
It's quite a departure consider the previous two decades.
@ that makes sense. maybe he plays a tank that's why prot was killing it in season 1.
Tww = the shaman expansion
Warlock discord foaming at the mouth
I swear this guy just spews nonsense.
What do you think is nonsense?
lol 😂
Ill give you some actual constructive critisism (because I like your vids), I understand the need for stretching your videos out for max watch time but you do too much describing (mentioning your opinion and communities within the same couple sentences, you reinforce your opinions a lot too) and not enough hard hitting points to justify the extra talk. Example, your shaman intro, felt like it took 2 mins to get to the updates and changes.
@ivanmeza7089 this wasn’t a class changes video, this was a video based on
How the class did season 1
Some changes
How they ended in the season
How they look heading into season 2 based on all 3 specs
But thank you for the critique
@@TheComebackKidsill admit I did click on it thinking it was a tldr about class changes in the upcoming patch. I'll take it back a little and say this video does what's its intended to do then. I love the nuances because I don't play enough anymore to know what the changes imply, so i dont mind the extra commentary, but I think I will stand by my "shaman intro" example though, bit wordy is all! Keep at it tho, there's probably more and more dudes like me who listen to wow stuff more than they actually get time to play it 😅
As someone who's been a Shadow Priest main for many years, I feel myself drifting more and more away from it. With the amount of mobility required in the new raid, I'm not very excited for it to be honest. Which is really sad in my opinion because this is THE Void and Shadow expansion. I'm really sad they're not doing more for it with Shadow Priest.
I feel the same. It sort of crazy that the big bad is a shadow priest and it's just another expansion where we sit bottom of the charts
God I wish they would update frost dk so it can get rid of so much RNG. Worst Single Target scaling in the game. At least it has cleave...
Do a shot every time he says “I’m going to be honest”, you will end up wasted
I’m gonna be real
@ lol, there you go, now we stay sober❤️
This video is pretty in-line with what I’m hearing. Fire Mage, Destro Lock, BM Hunter, Ele Sham, Aug all looking like the best DPS. It’s 100% a ranged season if you look at the dungeon design. Crazy amount of melee punishing mechanics where you have to move out, lose uptime, etc. BM Hunter will shine. This season has a huge amount of movement even for ranged too.
Shamans topppin every catagory and still getting buffs, clownworld. Meanwhile playing Demo, maybe I'm the clown.
PLaying a meta spec, or being top damage sucks.
Because then nothing you do is special and no one cares.
You play a bastard spec and still top or get close? people praise you and you are rewarded!!
Great to see Arcane is getting much attentions from devs right now, the changes are not fully perfect for the community because of Leydinker talent-path are still too expensive, but yeah, we'll se what happen in the next change. go LIT ARCANE!
Really wish death knights would get more single target dps buffs :(
Really hope they do Outlaw rogue right, everything you said was spot on.
Remove malefic rapture
problem with this list is that by the time the exp. actually comes out so many "adjustments" will be made this list will be all different
SV looking juicy, that tier set bonus going to be pretty powerful for ST and AOE!
You forgot about Fury warrior, we got nerfs after nerfs during whole season 1, ended up bottom dps in raid and mediocre at best in m+. Season 2 changes are looking grim as well
fury is looking bad in s2?
@christianprevost8455 They buffed and reverted the buff today, hopefully they do something otherwise fury will be mediocre
@@BreackTheHeat sad i wanted to play warrior
Playing Warrior without a premade is just suicide. Least utility out of any class which is always bad in pugs cause you can do little to save or impact a key. It’s a fun class but it’s just cringe how blizzard loads some classes toolkits but leaves warrior as a damage monkey.
@TopicxWoW It would have been fine being a damage monkey if it was doing any. My 620 ilvl ret is doing the same overall as my 640 full bis fury
I love how DK isnt even mentioned and their 2 dps specs are bottom 4 with no raid buff. No one even bats an eye.
Outlaw is losing two baseline pvp talents,sub is losing shadowy duel
I main Havoc, no matter what they do with it.
I dont know how ppl change their mains. Its called MAIN for a reason.
Some people have that spec that they play no matter what, others like to float around. My brother only plays shadow really.
Do I have this right? All the classes that are currently rocking the charts are getting even more updates to make them even better? Meanwhile locks and others just keep getting pooped on. Got it.
Caveat for Loser #3: Balance is popping off.
Saving grace of the class
Destro and demo are absolutely broken strong on ptr right now. So I don’t think you need to be worried. Destro prob meta in m+ in S2
I REALLY HATE THAT SHAMAN ANCESTRAL FORM or what is shit is...
Have you played the PTR? Or done any research at all? Destro Warlock is miles ahead of any other DPS in M+ lol
I’ve been playing it for roughly a week, destro is performing solid 100%, doesn’t mean the class as a whole isn’t severely lacking and feels outdated
Just my opinion
Well, that was something, haha.
I think you are really off when it comes to warlocks. Destro is killer in late season and looking to be even more beast in 11.1 acording to PTR right now. Yes Alliction needs some love, but you are dooming an entire class just because one spec is meh... Come on :D
Afflictions tier set is AWFULLLLL right now, and they nerfed demo (11.1)
Factor looks good
How a warlock is a loser. Destro looks insane in the PTR.
but at dh they buff the eye beam per another 100%... i dont think dh will be loser
the mage discord isnt exacly hyped around the new changes lol
Mages are literally never happy
@@desmondaqora1167 Because they're dumb. We had a good thing going on in Beta and every single patch since, they've been going backwards.
How we can have access to the ptr servers ?
Gotta download it on the battle.net launcher
@TheComebackKids yes I did it but its written that all served are closed
Hey Comeback are you going to play Hardcore ?
I was playing it, it’s cool but not something I would play too seriously
great, i run an afflic lock, feral druid, and shadow priest ... looking like more crap for season 2
Tierlist and other winners/losers lists a few weeks before the patch actually comes out are so useless because we have like still a few weeks of changes and number tuning going on...
Well maybe so but if that’s the case we will make a different video.
"its only ptr changes will come. the patch just came out wait until mythic tuning. they've been so busy with tuning the raid wait til 11.5. sorry they're focusing so much on 12.0 maybe wait until 12.0 ptr, they'll fix it"
i love that blizzards fix to talent issues are adding and subtracting little sub talents instead of just changing the spells ... LOL. when you cant fix the problem, want to create more problems dont fix whats not working ...
Someone plese tell me where warriors are winning?
Hey guys I haven't played in 10+ years. They can't recover my druid so I decided to have fun and made a mage. Something different. What's a good spec for the war within. Right now I'm Fire
Fire is a solid spec!
@@TheComebackKids Cool thanks. frost fire or sunfury?
Destro was looking good until they nerfed our CDF proc from 12 bolts to 6! Meanwhile ench got buffs?! blizz can go to hell
overpowered tier set ???? 24% dps buff overall its insane for tier set
Pack leader changes are largely garbage and still not exciting. The generic beasts are just tied to your kill command... Wow.. It was actually in a better state for survival before the changes because of the free raptor/mongoose and the reductions to butchery.
Factor isnt doing 50% off first box even with the code 298 marked to 195
I’ll check this right now with them, thank you buddy
i dont get it ...still like 4-6 weeks until the patch hits live and you r telling us who are the winner/loosers?
i mean like you r highlighting arcane mage cause of the new talents, did you know that they r useless because intution is "nether precision" just with a other name and arcane rebound is not playable cause u need to waste 2 talent points? Btw Intuition is bugged right now, it decreases the damage of arcane barrage instead of increasing.
We have class changes and set bonuses.
@@MikeyJ28 yes but i mean u understand what iam about to say? Its too early and the things mentioned and i mentioned just one little thing about arcane...are like pretty useless
The problem with classes are videos like this.. as an original player the game was better when every week some guy looking for clicks and views didn’t make some opinion based video that lazy players flock to and basically copy.
Congratulations on being part of killing the originality of the game. You create all these cry babies who get on hands and knees begging blizzard to make all these changes.
Thanks for the opinion man, it holds allot of weight.
tbh u have no idea what ur talking about when it comes to arcane. They have completley destroyed the specc and it seems like its going to be none competeable in m+ again. They were good first weeks but thats it. New talents? they shattered the 2-target cleave with that talent and leydrinker is never going to be played cause its blocked with the 2 talent node that gives more mastery.
It sucks that demon hunter feels like a spec, not a class. Its boring man its the same, its just meh.
Shadow priest has been forgotten for years. The spec has so much potential but they keep ignoring it.
Fury warrior is so meh to play you spam skills everything feels basically the same. even Arms, they feel like meh
I liked this video fuck the nerds saying negative shit. Keep doing your thing, man!
Not trying to be rude...but are you out of content to do ?? Because why make a video like this when the 11.1 patch is still on PTR and going through balance as we speak. So this video is very very premature to have been made.
It’s a few weeks away, they just dropped two major class change updates
Yes content is low on retail for season one for obvious, but 11.1 is coming soon, I’m excited for it, and so is everyone
@TheComebackKids Don't get me wrong, I am super excited as well. But these kinds of videos are a little deceiving. You already got FOTM Andy's waiting to play the top class while shitting on the other classes that aren't. Maybe it is just me, but these seem to lead people in certain directions like sheep. Not trying to bust your balls. I think you have others that do that. I normally love your videos. It is just these kinds make me...🤮
What a silly question to ask haha. Yes, everyone is out of content because it’s the end of the season and there’s nothing to talk about other than PTR stuff.
@MikeyJ28 Hence the silly video. I get it now. Moving along to another video.
@ Imagine being childish and petty enough to complain about free wow information. Hilarious
I would put Unholy DK up there. It’s doing what it always does and snowballs into becoming stronger as an expansion progresses and content gets harder.
It’s one of the few specs that has a bunch of viable and unique builds to play depending on if you’re raiding, doing high keys or low keys.
meeeeehhhhh.... the guardian druid imo would be in a winner tree... but thats my 2 cents and no..,. i dont even main or play one.
Warlock and druid in losers sińce they get insane tiersets which boost them highly to great perfo😂
This guy is delusional
Warlock main here and im canceling sub next season xd
Yikessss
Likely same here
nah man Season 2 destro gonna pump
@@hanye9989 but im an affliction lover ;(
Come back to SOD man, its so good now. You are such a good content creator and would thrive making SOD videos again.
I love sod to death buddy, but literally the time investment for views are 10000000% dead
TBC is coming so I’ll be there, but I’m loving the shit out of war within
Those devs on sod are wack
@@TheComebackKids Gotcha, I would say they listen to feedback and make changes based on it pretty well tbh. Do you still play SOD at all?
I would at least come back when the new raid and dungeon goes to the live servers. That will get a lot of attention since there’s nothing else going on in WoW for a while.
shadow got 4 reworks during dragonflight thats why they aren't being changed
Shadow feels really good right now imo
Just finished the video, you lost yourself a subscriber, you are so far off with almost every take lol
I’d 1000% love to hear your thoughts and why I’m wrong lol. Please by all means go crazy I’d love a good read
This game went downhill after wrath ended......
Wrath was great, but it isn’t even the best expansion.
Cool? Why are you still watching videos on wow then?
I think you bruised a nerve on some people...LoL
lol why are you watching a video about retail then?