Dating in Korea, Hongdae F***boys, Tinder (feat. Sean Solo) | Korean Pizza Club | EP.5
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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🎤 Host: David Kim @justdavid_92
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Dating in Korea can be wild OR charming. It's either a K-drama or f***boy horror show. We hear the stories of actual foreigners in Korea with their dating experiences on/offline. Also popular Twitch streamer Sean Solo joins us to chip in his opinions about dating issues!
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:43 Have you dated in Korea
06:37 Sonja’s bad exp.
08:53 Cultural differences
10:33 Clubbing
13:30 Spicy food
14:35 Skinship speed
23:01 K-f***boys
24:12 Foreign girls easy?
28:32 Avoid Hongdae / Hongdae boys
30:40 Guys not honest
32:20 Who should pay on 1st date
40:25 Why K-f***boys so infamous
42:30 Should I date on Tinder?
48:05 F***boy or Kdrama boy
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You should invite Korean fuck boys to your show…….at least the ones who admit being one…likely will never happen, but you never know. 😂
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@@rachelsshorts can you give the two guys host Instagram ?
Thank you for having me David… and yes because i stream i am so accustomed to facing the camera while speaking. Next time ill just be in David’s face the whole time.
🤣🤣🤣 thank you for coming Sean
Kkkkk but you did good 😅😊
I just loved your input on David's show, so I subscribed to your channel.I only subscribed to people who give out educational advise or talk talk sense👌
but you did good ❤ i just thought it was because of the headphones like you were trying to hear the others clearly that's why you're so focused 😂
It's okay, I find it hard to make eye contact with people. People are too quick to judge or think something is weird because they expect us all to be the same. I think you did well
Sean look likes he would date himself
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😂😂😂 I thought the same
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I love how Sean NEVER looked at the others faces. Thats so funny. Moreover I really like listening to his voice, it sounds so pleasant.
Yeah, I picked up on that very quickly. I don’t know why it bothered me.
Bothered me too. Why didn’t look at them?
yeah it came off arrogant to me especially when hhe started speaking idk why but the vibe i got from him was just off
His voice is very pleasant. IDK if its the mic but it sounds really good.
I think he did look at least once, but maybe the reason he tried his best NOT to look is because someone told him "look at the camera", and he just did as told. ;)
sometimes people with social anxeity do that too. but that is me just speculating. It can also b. e related to how he processes his thoughts. but he is looking at the camera sometimes so i dunno
That’s so funny that Korean guys think us foreigners are easy. But I actually think Korean boys are easy. It just takes someone having a different hair color for them to pull their pants down
Men are easy in general yes.
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Lol men are easy period
Because they’re wanting that to begin with…lol…those women are exactly doing what those Korean boys want
Hahahaahhahaahahhaahahhahahaha 😂
Sean's voice is so pleasant to listen to omg... He sounds so composed and intelligent when he speaks 😩
Sean could literally do audiobooks with his voice. 😩😭
I met my Korean boyfriend in kind of unconventional way...I'm super introverted so I hate going to clubs lol...and I'm not someone who can handle casual sexual/romantic relationships because I'm sensitive and get emotionally attached easily (know thyself). I joined a pen pal app, found him as a language exchange partner, and we were able to grow a friendship while writing each other long-form letters for a few months before realizing we had romantic feelings for each other. We started sending each other snail-mail letters and packages. 6 months later he was able to come visit me in the U.S. for the first time, and I'm planning to come visit Korea in a month! Learning about him and his life, growing closer over a longer period of time, and falling in love has been the most rewarding experience of my life.
There are ways you can put yourself "out there" while avoiding the hellscape that is modern-day dating/hookup apps and skeevy people and f*ckboys at clubs!
That's lovely...what was the site
I would like to know the name of the site too please!
I've been trying to find something like that. pen pals would be great. I'm not really for the romantic part, but I remember when we had pen pals back in school. it was fun. what did you use?
Oh poor you…wish you the best tho but be ready just incase
Oh what was the app?? I’m trying to improve my French and would love to have a pen pal!
Sean is a vibe... He's giving off a serious, reserved, chill vibe, yet also kind and good listening.
David is so sweet lol I like that gentle, respectful, Christian boy vibe. Never change David lol Also I agree with Sean. When the guy pays there is some type of exchange (not like a hook up, but just more input in other areas).
I like Sean. First time to see him and he is such a team player in a conversation. He listens and understands quality in discussion.
But he will never look you in the eye during these deep conversations 😂
@@inquisitvem6723 because he was so into the conversation you know😄
My Vietnamese American friend visited Korea for a month. A good looking guy too. A Russian gal saw him at a bar and they started talking…as soon as he told her that he wasn’t Korean, she friend zoned him.😂
vietnamese american are smart sweet caring and work hard for their goals and girlfriends and family
@@virginiaperez-baez2445 agree…too bad he wasn’t Korean though. The foreign women in Korea are seeking Korean men only. 😂
Good god, how pathetic
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some topic ideas:
-relationships with korean parents, their expectations, how they feel about non-traditional careers
-finances in kr, how people view saving/investing/getting loans, how do ppl pay for college/grad school, how ppl can afford houses/weddings, how the stock market is set up
-how foreigners establish new businesses in kr
-k-drama vs. reality
-college life e.g. traditions, dorm life, getting into grad school vs. undergrad
Anna and Sean has such potential to be regulars on this :D
Anna seems to be into Sean 😅
@@raquelfigueroa5539 how?
Complementing him every chance she gets. Nothing wrong with that though.
Bro wtf, anna has a boyfriend already lol.
I agree with David No meeting guys on social media it’s very dangerous.
Great episode David, thank you 🙏 Loved seeing Sonia again, she was my favourite on Ramyeon and Chill. Anna was awesome, and Sean was fantastic too - I really liked the vibe. Looking forward to the next episode - you are almost at 10k!!
a boyfriend not wanting you to go to the movies alone with another guy is not a red flag...
I was thinking the same !
I think it depends on the situation, I can imagine situations in which that's a reasonable want
@@essennagerryin which situations do you from your point of view think it wouldn't be odd?
@@grownsimba8120 maybe, just maybe some kindergarten friends (like loong time pals)? but then I do not see why not to bring a boyfriend if he wants to hangout...
They will say everything that a Korean man does is a red flag. I don't know their personal beliefs but the way this show was going is just for the sake of trashing Korean men.
I totally understand why women ask Sean for relationship advice. He is polite, soft spoken and trying to be honest. Of course he is calculate his answers and created this good boy image deliberately.
polite and soft spoken? i am watching a different video
He seem to be the serious type, which is good for long term relation I suppose.
@@loveyourself6986 You're obviously watching a different video. He is VERY polite, and his voice is soothing and gentle.
Thank you again for the invitation David :) had an amazing time debating with you guys
I LOVED THIS EPISODE!!! I feel like there are so still so many misconceptions and assumptions about dating, love life, and romance in korea and this episode was just the tip of the iceberg! We definitely need a part 2!!! ❤❤❤
great episode. love how all the panelists have different views and bring up interesting points and perspectives. but Sean come on not everyone has a face as beautiful as yours😂
This panel vibes REALLY well! Hope to see everyone back 💜💖
I’m in Korea right now, staying in Hongdae and I just got here a couple of days ago and already feel this vibe from the guys here😅
On point, as always! With respect to foreign women being considered easy, as a Latina myself, I found the stereotypes other countries have on foreigners, specially certain nationalities, very problematic whenever I go abroad. I guess the best would be for people just to understand that each person is different and you should get to know the person before making any assumptions… that’s what I try to do at least.
I’m discovering your podcast and I subscribed right away! I love this type of videos. I’m following Sean streams on Twitch and it feels weird to see him almost shy haha Also, thank you Ana for representing France so well!
I love this topic. I really like the stories of the cast . 😍 More dating topics in the future please. 🥰
Would definitely love to see more of these, I loved the chemistry and the different backgrounds that led to interesting discussions. Everyone has such a cool vibe with valuable input and with good mentality. 🙏🏼 Get them back asap!
Can we have a part 2? This is such an interesting topic
It's so sick that in Korea dating is perceived as an investment. My Korean friend has been single for years because he said he can't afford dating until he finds a job and is financially stable.
20:08 no offense but this is the mature and adult response. Sometimes you need to just ask for what you want. People talk about Koreans being more conservative but a woman relying on signals and nonverbal communication is pretty conservative too. In the same way men miss out on women for failing to ask them out, women are gonna miss out on men because they think he should just "get" the signal.
I felt some of the comments were a bit back and forth too. It's too all assuming when there's diversity of thought and mostly under rep of introverts
True. Why are they expecting he makes the move every time and even saying « I lost interest » like what? That’s weird🥴 they are extremely shy from my experience they don’t speak feelings as much and for those people that’s different from sex. So if they commit to see you 6 -7 times they have an interest
I love Sean on this podcast! His voice is so nice❤ and he has such good points! We want him back another time.
Watched several of your videos now, loving your show... and as others mentioned, the vibe for this panel was awesome. Balanced and chill! I love Sean's very thoughtful and considerate attitude too from the male perspective. Both women were lovely! What Ana said about the time and cost women invest in the dates, yessss!
ngl this channel deserves wayyyyyy more subscribers...rooting for the Pizza Club to reach atleast 100k!!!
ive seen your content before with some youtube videos and shorts, but this is my first time listening to the podcast. good production quality and quality of conversation. great job!
Great episode and loved the different views! Yes to part 2,3 4 and more 😊
I met my Korean bf on tinder a year ago. The difference might be that he's from the countryside and had never dated a foreigner. This to me gives him some kind of innocence that you won't find in those guys in Hongdae. I don't live in Seoul and neither does my bf and I made a point of only messaging guys in KOREAN. The problem is when you use English your pool of potential suitors is a lot smaller and a lot of these guys who are good at English and good looking are well aware of these facts and so they can play with foreign girls. SO my advice would be to stay away from the obvious "good at English, well acquainted with the foreign community" guys. I visited Hongdae at night recently (for the first and probably last time) and saw a whole group of foreign girls standing around this one Korean guy... would you do this in your country? Think about it! this is how you give men egos girls!
"I am a conservative, Christian, virgin boy, so obviously I don't have sex". Congrats, dear David, for having the courage to reveal this publicly. In West you could be laughed at if you say publicly something like this...
I am also a Christian woman, I am in my 30s, I am European, I am highly educated (Ph.D.) and I am virgin. There is nothing wrong with that, it is about personal values. My boyfriend accepts it and agrees with it. And I have a lot of friends (both males and females) who are virgins in their 20s and 30s or who got married as virgins (not all of them are religious people).
Respect❤
That statement was a flex and I loved it.. I wish I can also say that but I am no longer a virgin.
Big respect😮
I'm a muslim over 30 and I've never dated nor had any sexual relationships with men and I was amazed by what you said!
considering I'm as atheist as they come (and from pretty much the least religious country in the world) and a lesbian, this comment surprisingly resonates with me a lot. I've only had one sexual partner, have always prioritized education (working as a university lecturer since I was 20) and am nearly 30 now. I think it's bizarre that not wanting to sleep around with every other person and innately feeling like that would be immoral, gross and wrong for you personally is only associated with being religious. morals exist independently from religions and aren't necessarily based on patriarchal prejudices against women etc. I just think it is sexist and unfair of hetero men to expect chastity of women if they don't follow the same rules. it is insane to me that virginity is considered more shameful these days than changing bedmates like socks.
personally, I wouldn't want to date a woman who's had many partners, especially male ones. it doesn't mean I'm "sl*tshaming" anyone, I just know that we aren't compatible in terms of values, relationship ideals, how serious we are about dating, and of course sexuality. not wanting to date someone incompatible isn't prejudice, it's common sense. I have tried being more open-minded and dated the serial dater types of women and they've always led me on and betrayed me so not making that mistake again. similarly, I don't expect someone who wants a partner with p0rn star level experience to date me either. it's just about compatibility after all.
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic because I have watched him on both Kelsey's channel and DKDK tv and on both channels he has talked about sleeping with multiple women, some even on the first date.....
great episode! super like this panel and the back and forths! looking forward to the next ❤
this was a really good and informative episode. I'm a few days late getting to it but definitely would like to see this. I've not been watching David long, but from what I can tell, there is nothing that I haven't enjoyed of his content so far. I love and enjoy your shows! please keep the content coming...
I'd happily watch the 4 of you in a conversation again! So smooth and soothing voices with the + of different but almost similar perspectives. Hopefully another episodes comes by soon with you guys.
Ohh i like how Anna & Sean présented their different point of view & perspectives ! Great épisode !
David you’re great 💜
Great discussion. There is so much to unpack from the discussion that I do hope there is another part to this discussion. What are women looking for in a boyfriend is it the same criteria for a non Korean boyfriend or is it the K-drama tropes, it is from one extreme to the other. Unrealistic expectations seems to be the pick of the day. So another episode to delve a little deeper would be great. At least for me. Good job David and guests. Already read Sean’s comment about why he continued facing forward, I truly enjoyed his dry wit.
Love the podcast and guests, and the premise of the show as a whole. Different people with different opinions. The show will definitely keep growing!
Good mix of personalities with your guests on this episode. I feel like there was some kind of "elephant" in the room but I have no idea what it was. Maybe I am looking to much into that aspect of the this episode but
I enjoyed the topics and a bit more about what the perceptions are. ;)
I love this line up ❤
thank you for coming ana, sonja and sean 😊
This was such an awesome episode . Waiting for next episode
i love the dynamic of this panel, y'all balance each other out really well! 🤗would love to have a friend group like this when i come to sk to just hang out & talk with!!
also this discussion was so entertaining & equally as insightful! would love to see you guys back for a part 2 & maybe even 3 😆
I very much enjoyed this episode! Everyone’s insights and experiences were great to listen to and learn from.
David, I'm loving your Korea Pizza Club! And this episode was lots of fun, and informative. Everyone on your panel was really smart and honest.
Dude, this is great show. Well done David.
Informative and great content! Keep up the good work!
Yes I want to see this topic more 😊
Really enjoyed the panel of todays episode also
There are some western people that do their dates the way David does. There are those who do take it slow. They wait till the second or third date before they even hold hands. There are many places in America that have their dating, the same way that David was explaining his.
I enjoyed this segment so true to what I heard also love Shawn soft speculative comments on the issues he was very thoughtful
i really liked this episode. non judgemental, even when you highly disagree with each other. loved it. wouldn't mind pt 2
Another great episode! Keep up the great work David! You shine as the leader of the pizza club 😁 Where did Sean get the name Gregory from still wondering 😂 Hi Ana and my girl Sonja, love how you tell it like it is 😂
I spent 4 hours hangout with this guy. He was a friend of my friend. Before meeting we spoke for 2 months occasionally and one day he invited me for dinner. He paid for it. Then I took him to a Cafe for coffee and dessert I paid for it.
I told him I had a great time and told him upfront that we shouldn't meet again. We have different vision and views about life so I don't want to waste his time and my time. A week later he asked me out again to try a new restaurant but I declined the offer.
I loved the video, please do a part 2
Sean is so composed and his arguments are on point! He has to come back! As a French woman I relate to Anna so much hahaha! Conclusion : just don't go to Hongdae!
❤ 😂 this panel of guests were quite enjoyable to listen to.
I look forward to seeing everyone again. I stayed up late to watch, and it was too short. It was a great episode. Thanks David
I love these girls the way they think and their attitude. I really like Sonja since Ramyun and Chill. Anna is the type of girl I want to friends with too! And that guy should be Radio DJ of MBC! his voice is smooth🫠
David I respect you for being a virgin. Such a breath of fresh air
He‘s joking.. I’ve been watching other videos of him on different channels
I really like this channel and the panels have been great. I know people think Sean is acting weird but he was spitting facts most if not all of the time especially about the desperation that can be found sometimes at the club. Guys can be real thirsty, like desert thirsty. Keep the great videos going.
This was a really good conversation to listen to. Thanks!
My boy sean! Mr ethereal!
Just here handing out wisdom nuggets 😊😊 y’all are fantastic. Great stuff
Hochun, I really enjoy watching your full video. I laughed so hard with tears in my eyes. You're funny and you made my day , so thank you. I'm going to watch the video again 🤭🤭🤪🤪
Really enjoyed it! 🤩😅
The best pannel ever!!! Loved everyone comments and point of view
Fun episode, as always
Absolutely communication is key in any relationship/ friendship in any dating situation
Would love to have another episode with Sean! I feel like he's a bit reserved and didn't get as much of a chance to speak!
Many good conversations and nice group. Thank you.
I usually respect and enjoy your panel humility, spontaneity and authenticity across the board.
Sean did a great job I love the way he speak ❤
I love these guests, could listen for hours ❤
I'm glad to finally see people who didn't just immediately say "Tinder is trash and you can never meet anybody on there" I fell into a lot of negativity after I met an fboy ex on there and was constantly consuming media that said using Tinder in Korea will never work. Proud to say I have been with my amazing boyfriend for almost two years and we met on Tinder! We are both not the usual type of people that use Tinder and it's seriously all about luck and timing. Good luck to everybody trying to date in Korea!
Wow, that was very educational, guys and gals, as for what to have in mind when dating and also very interesting as a social phenomenon. Thank you for your service to the community haha
Reall enjoyed this episode very intersting. PART TWO PLEASE
I like how David is confident of his identity as conservative Christian!✨ and I like how others respected that. I am also conservative women and it’s not like I am not romantic or don’t like guys, but I don’t want to date for fun and only want to have a serious relationship that leads to marriage 🌸 so if I date I don’t want fast skinship , I want to take things slow☺️ so I really understand David’s view of relationships and it’s very beautiful ✨
communication is key in every friendship, relationship
Great job guys
Great show🎉
Oooh a new episode!
Another amazing episode! :D @Sean, spot on at 28:30 ish!
Sean killing it 💯 ASIAN BATMAN!
Love seeing Sonja on the pod! Her vibe is so chill!
Sean killing it!
This was interesting. Thank you
Ok, in Europe you can date for 6 months without becoming an official couple, but in those 6 months you would probably get to hold hands, kiss, and if people are open do even more or go all the way.
I know couples that got into a relationship very fast and some that were dating/ platonic for 4 months... before anything happened.
You can't generalize a whole dating culture to a whole continent with different counntries with very different cultures. It's not the case at all for my country
@@sekaitherborn3618 That is why I did not generalize at all, I said "In Europe, you can do this", but I saw fast dating and slow dating as well. So I was saying exactly that there is not only one way, it depends on people and what they prefer.
@@shamkand Well, you could also say that for Latin America, the US, Canada and some places in Maghreb too, but those places have a huge diversity in dating sultures. I am generaly against making statements for a whole continent since generalizes too much or end up being a void statement. But yeah, I get it, maybe you wanted to talk about the diversity of situations.
@@sekaitherborn3618 I only said Europe because I only lived in multiple countries in Europe and I don't know about America (I did not experience it).
They were saying that in Korea there is a "Korean type of dating" that people know about and asked if there is something similar in other places, so I wanted to say in Europe I did not notice a thing that everyone is doing and is specific only to a country. I noticed that depending on the person it can go both ways.
@@shamkand Yes, but it is not specific to Europe, to me it is too broad of a statement to really mean something. Don't worry, I understood what you meant, I was talking about a preference of mine in terms of cultural commentary.
I’m Bolivian and did not expect that shoutout haha 😅
Who this is a breath of fresh air. I really like David by himself and with different guest !!
Sean 1%er
You did great!!!! ❤❤
I'm curious to how this conversation would mesh with the other one about how involved the parents get in their child's dating/marriage in Korea. How much conflict does it normally cause, does it affect how serious a Korean person is willing to get with a foreign partner, are the "rules" different for this scenario especially if marriage is on the table, etc.
Honestly, as far as the first date and who pays, I feel like who ever invites the other should pay. If the girl asks the guy, she should pay.
This is basically a roundabout way to say men should pay since men still do the vast majority of asking.
SEAN THE BEST EVER YAYAYAYA🦇🦇🦇🦇
I was reading Ana's handle and was like "Oh her name is Itsana, it's sooo pretty 😍" and then I realized that "it's ana" after I read sean's 🤦♀️
Great show. Love all the guests. It is quite funny that even the foreigners you get on have quite conservative ideas at times.
this was the best group yet
Great conversation!!! Sean was like a professor at uni dissecting the individual problems 😂😂 Looking forward to more episodes! Great concept, David!