I gotta say that the rifles atm are in a good spot balance wise, each has upsides and downsides and the default starter(the akm) is the best all-rounder, as it should be.
Every weapon should be better at something then other weapons. That’s why we choose them… to be situational. The Fcar being best in most situations was not ideal, but it was fun.
I am main Famas now, and i found that it actually kill light better than any other ar. Because it can 2 burst and one bullet (without headshot) the light, and the initial 3 burst from full mag is basically zero recoil. Meaning you can easily aim have one burst hit light without making the light notice. AKM and FCAR when i shoot first bullet, the light notice and start dashing away.
I've been playing the FCAR lately after dropping it since season 1. AND I GOTTA SAY it feels pretty good! I'm actually quite enjoying it. I don't know if its "the best" but. Anywho W video man
Really liking the FAMAS over here! I find the burst is great since I tend to tap fire the other ARs anyways. Really good for team firing because the damage bursts can help start (or close out) a fight really well.
God the FCAR used to be LETHAL I loved that high recoil high damage gun small clip I thought it was well balanced. If you missed anything you wouldn't get the kill but now the just made them all so similar I switched to the AK because of the insane mag size. I really want a medium weapon that can do long range like crazy. Like if the famas was barely weaker but had no damage drop off or something. Or a semi auto rifle
The hipfire on the famas needs to be taken into account. It is incredibly accurate when hipfiring, and is one of the main reasons i only really use the famas. It feels really good to ads at range and hipfire when they are even somewhat close to you.
I feel like a burst weapon like FAMAS actually has easier recoil control, because you can rely on every separate burst having sligtly different direction, so you just move your mouse in a short line with each burst
I wish they would implement different reload times for tactical and full reload for the AKM and FCAR. Always rewarding to barely manage a tactical reload.
the situation where the famas shines is at close range hipfire against dash lights, because the hipfire on the famas is better than any weapon currently
Not a fan of burst weapons so I won't comment on Famas but right now I do believe akm is indisputably better than FCAR. In season 1 I was not a big fan for FCAR cuz of low ammo count and used akm as my primary choice(maybe I didn't have the best aim when I started playing the finals so the extra ammo on akm also felt like a huge backup/support). I tried out FCAR in season 2 when it was considered broken and fell in love with it. It rewarded good aim and punished as heavily if you missed your shots. That was it's core identity separating it from akm, high damage low ammo vs lower damage with higher ammo count. After it got the damage nerf and increased ammo count to 25 from 20 it just feels like a worse akm. I won't go over stats but by playing both I don't feel like it's rewarding me for my aim anymore, as I mentioned it just feels like a worse akm. The only reason to use it is if iron sights are unbearable for someone and they absolutely need FCARs sight. I feel it's a bit better in long range because of the sights but tbh not enough to justify using it above akm. I wish it would go back to 20 bullets and more damage but I doubt that'll happen so I guess I'm sticking to akm from now unless Embark actual does some balance around them.
Hard to believe, but I almost think medium's too balanced. Like there isn't enough of a reward to learning burst to pick up the famas, and the scar as a light counterpick doesn't move the needle enough unless im underestimating the importance of the holo sight. The balance is so tight, there isn't room to fenagle an edge, so why have more than one option?
Never liked Fcar tbh. Been using akm till the end of season 2, then swapped to famas. Suprisenly good gun after the buffs but it lacked that 1 point of damage, which was added in season 3. Now this gun is solid choise for all ranges
As a person with bad aim, I was hitting the body with an aim. fcar was a machine made for me... until I got nerf and became a AK with 25 bullets... If I can give the same injury with 36 bullets, why should I use still fcar??? embark to much drinking bro too much...
I do miss how the FCAR used to be balanced tbh, it doesn’t feel very distinct any more. I’d like it if they reduced its mag size back down to 20 but gave it better damage dropoff again, perhaps 1-2 more damage if needed
Well for me famas is the best cus i really love the burst on the famas and it feels solid as compared to akm i will probably take the famas but in some situations and things i will prefer the akm because of the mag capacity and the auto advantage
Need two weapons per class every season (one in the beginning and one in mid season). That's not overkill like CoD (the have like 6+, lol) and some other games but a healthy variety. 3 gadgets per season is okay. They still need to work on balancing those a lot moreso than weapons. This season's weapons in particular were mid to me since I'm not a melee player, I like to shoot things in a FPS edit: rifles and LMGs are pretty much perfect right now when it comes to balancing. You got Lewis with a faster ttk, still a big mag, but harder to control. m60 is weak but you basically have infinite ammo in a mag
How come the TTK differ according to body type? Aren't we dealing the same damage output with the same gun? So shouldn't the highest ttk weapon win every time
@@ggez8079 thats not how ttk works, i can give you a hypothetical that might help. If a weapon does 150 dmg per bullet but shoots at 1 bullet per second And anither gun does 100 dmg per bullet and shoots at 4 bullets per second. The first weapon will kill a light faster because it requires 1 shot, the 2nd will kill light slower but kill heavy faster because within that 1 second u got 4 shots off totalling 400. Fire rate and dmg per bullet matter. Even burst weapons we calculate the delay between burst
I really want to like the famas but for me I don’t really like it unfortunately… I feel like you get outgunned most of the time up close, and I feel like the range is bad which is weird. Ak is the best in season 3 for me.
God the Famas needs a Scope. Iron Sight just holds this weapon back. And tbh, the FCAR DMG should be at least 23 and MAG size back to 20. I get that the FCAR was OP, but 22 DMG is just too low
I don't know what is the best AR on medium, but MP-5 is definitely the best AR in the game. Don't even tell me it's SMG, it's basically AR with smg skin, especially considering damage retention over distance
A good Finals comparison with actual stat lists! I didn't know there was so much wierdness going on with their dry/half reload speeds until now. I think the ARs are in a great spot right now - they are different enough from eachother to be fun and do the 'all rounder' nature of ARs well, but they'll still get beaten by the more situational and less versatile weapons in certain situations. To me, that's exactly how game ARs should be.
Fcar is ez to one clip even when it only had 20 per mag, but i cant aim and kill quick enough on ak... I guess Im just blind😅 (and fcar recoil is actually not that bad, I still one clip max like 35~38m once u get used to the new pattern)
I’m my point of view and experience with these three weapon. Akm; best weapon against a lot of target, firer rate and good damage. Famas; best damage, precision and best to kill faster light player. Fcar; you are just a joke, best weapon for dumb player tried to proof the Fcar still viable, need to kill one target per magazine, the bullet pattern show it “accurate”, but you waste 5 bullets on 25 to shoot a player at 10m and that player take cover and came back to kill you easily. The only good side of this weapon is close range like 5m or less.
I think that those are all too op and some other medium weapons should be buffed. I play the model 1887 (have over 300 hours wi5h it), and i lost way to many times to teams that have a heavy stealing with two healing beams on him. I cant do anything against that with that fire rate (This goes also for the CL 40). There is also the fact that the ak and the fcar are both very forgiving when it comes to fights, If i miss one shot with the model its game over while with an ar, you are shooting multiple rounds a second for like 3 secs, so you have a lot of time to get target aquisition (which is guaranteed damage). Yes you could say that the model is op because it can 2 shot a medium or 3 shot a heavy, but this happens only when you hit perfect shots (which is immposible beyond like 15 m). Both the model and the CL have insanely long reload times while you literally remplace a mag for your ar in a second. Both the model and the cl should be buffed with more damage or an headshot multiplyer in the model's chase. I played some ak, famas and fcar in casual play and i have to say that you guys have it easy. Over the last seasons no change was made to the model while the famas got buff after buff and the ak and fcar stayed mostly the same. The state of medium is just sad. TL;DR: The AK, FCAR and Famas are to op compared to the model and CL, with the model being too unforgiving in fights.
Out of the three I’d say famas is the weakest. Giving it a 0.75x headshot multiplier (maybe same for the light’s burst pistol for consistency) would do wonders
I’m an AK main since Closed Beta. Live by the AK, die by the AK.
bro AK used to be so much better
💯 agree, will not ever break from my AKM
Same but I dont know why they are not adding ak47
Fr💯💯💯
I love the AK and have used it a LOT
2:35 Classic teammate moment 🙄🙄
the worst part is not that he died, but rather he pushed the cashout interrupting the steal lmao.
saw that and came down here
This game is a breath of fresh air right now. Played since open beta and I can't wait for season 4
FAMAS my beloved - hipfire and movement I really like as well as recoil being easier to control seeing that I rarely use guns
it also works really well for surprise high damage, i use it with the dematerialiser to catch people off guard
oncee i started to utilize hipfire more the famas just clicked in my head
@@Kwazii1 it's amazing! I can't stand the constant movement slowdown of the automatic rifles
i agree it is one of the best hip fire guns
@@sirsouping THE best with M11 closely behind it
WAKE UP JUNE, APPOH JUST POSTED 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I gotta say that the rifles atm are in a good spot balance wise, each has upsides and downsides and the default starter(the akm) is the best all-rounder, as it should be.
yeah good job embark!
Every weapon should be better at something then other weapons. That’s why we choose them… to be situational. The Fcar being best in most situations was not ideal, but it was fun.
I am main Famas now, and i found that it actually kill light better than any other ar. Because it can 2 burst and one bullet (without headshot) the light, and the initial 3 burst from full mag is basically zero recoil. Meaning you can easily aim have one burst hit light without making the light notice. AKM and FCAR when i shoot first bullet, the light notice and start dashing away.
I've been playing the FCAR lately after dropping it since season 1. AND I GOTTA SAY it feels pretty good! I'm actually quite enjoying it. I don't know if its "the best" but. Anywho W video man
With all the balancing changes up to this point, I wonder why rate of fire hasn't been touched in order to change the balance of weapons.
The famas is defo my go-to as someone who plays all the classes pretty equally and swaps between a lot of loadouts, its just great in most situations
I have been using famas since it came out and the recent buff has put it into god tier. Anybody who can hit shots should be using the FAMAS
❤️love the finals can't wait for season 4 🎉
Really great video, I bet it took some time and effort to get these comparisons. Keep up the great work! This video made me queue up another game.
Really liking the FAMAS over here! I find the burst is great since I tend to tap fire the other ARs anyways. Really good for team firing because the damage bursts can help start (or close out) a fight really well.
God the FCAR used to be LETHAL I loved that high recoil high damage gun small clip I thought it was well balanced. If you missed anything you wouldn't get the kill but now the just made them all so similar I switched to the AK because of the insane mag size. I really want a medium weapon that can do long range like crazy. Like if the famas was barely weaker but had no damage drop off or something. Or a semi auto rifle
The hipfire on the famas needs to be taken into account. It is incredibly accurate when hipfiring, and is one of the main reasons i only really use the famas. It feels really good to ads at range and hipfire when they are even somewhat close to you.
I feel like a burst weapon like FAMAS actually has easier recoil control, because you can rely on every separate burst having sligtly different direction, so you just move your mouse in a short line with each burst
I wish they would implement different reload times for tactical and full reload for the AKM and FCAR.
Always rewarding to barely manage a tactical reload.
Seems like they've settled on a great balance of the guns! Nice to see
Nice video bro!
I would like to see a comparison of the KS-23 with the SA1216 or a comparison of a sledgehammer, a spear and a flamethrower
i might do a heavy video soon, not sure what i'd compare since theres quite the variety being used this season so it might be a lot of weapons
KS23 is really fun! Destruction is so useful! Hitting your shots feels so good! ☺️
Fcar is also a great hipfire weapon, can make it ez to take out lights that get too close.
the situation where the famas shines is at close range hipfire against dash lights, because the hipfire on the famas is better than any weapon currently
Famas lately has been lots of fun. I used to not like that gun for the finals.
I love burst assault riffles and the famas is my favorite, but I kinda hate the iron sites on famas
if u manage to hit a light with two full bursts with famas and land one headshot out of the 6, you can melt the light so quickly you wont even realize
FAMAS is my go to recently takes some getting used to but it’s a great option if you play your life well
Not a fan of burst weapons so I won't comment on Famas but right now I do believe akm is indisputably better than FCAR. In season 1 I was not a big fan for FCAR cuz of low ammo count and used akm as my primary choice(maybe I didn't have the best aim when I started playing the finals so the extra ammo on akm also felt like a huge backup/support). I tried out FCAR in season 2 when it was considered broken and fell in love with it. It rewarded good aim and punished as heavily if you missed your shots. That was it's core identity separating it from akm, high damage low ammo vs lower damage with higher ammo count. After it got the damage nerf and increased ammo count to 25 from 20 it just feels like a worse akm. I won't go over stats but by playing both I don't feel like it's rewarding me for my aim anymore, as I mentioned it just feels like a worse akm. The only reason to use it is if iron sights are unbearable for someone and they absolutely need FCARs sight. I feel it's a bit better in long range because of the sights but tbh not enough to justify using it above akm. I wish it would go back to 20 bullets and more damage but I doubt that'll happen so I guess I'm sticking to akm from now unless Embark actual does some balance around them.
Hard to believe, but I almost think medium's too balanced. Like there isn't enough of a reward to learning burst to pick up the famas, and the scar as a light counterpick doesn't move the needle enough unless im underestimating the importance of the holo sight. The balance is so tight, there isn't room to fenagle an edge, so why have more than one option?
@@William_Asston so people can use personal preference
The shadow eclipse skin for AK changes the sights a bit, but to be honest i think they're the best iron sights in the game
Eclipse shade*
yeah they do seem nice
you can track so much better with the fcar , they should really add sights to most guns
@@Saucywaffl35 id love a red dot on the famas
Never liked Fcar tbh. Been using akm till the end of season 2, then swapped to famas. Suprisenly good gun after the buffs but it lacked that 1 point of damage, which was added in season 3. Now this gun is solid choise for all ranges
I love the akm. Fcar just doesn't have enough ammo for me and I just cant control burst weapons to save my life
FCAR is imho hard to control. It has such a weird recoil patter for initial burst.
AKM is consistent and FAMAS is awesome if you consistently hit.
Hey I was wondering what u use for your thumbnails. They look so cool
photoshop
@@Appoh nice thank you!
As a person with bad aim, I was hitting the body with an aim. fcar was a machine made for me... until I got nerf and became a AK with 25 bullets... If I can give the same injury with 36 bullets, why should I use still fcar??? embark to much drinking bro too much...
I always switch between them. all 3 are very good and satisfying
When I get the AK to twinkle (already have the FCAR), I'll probably switch to the FAMAS.
I believe the main weapon for Medium build is AKM. Before season 3, Fcar was the goat
I do miss how the FCAR used to be balanced tbh, it doesn’t feel very distinct any more. I’d like it if they reduced its mag size back down to 20 but gave it better damage dropoff again, perhaps 1-2 more damage if needed
Being able to get 2 kills per mag really helps AK's case
Well for me famas is the best cus i really love the burst on the famas and it feels solid as compared to akm i will probably take the famas but in some situations and things i will prefer the akm because of the mag capacity and the auto advantage
I guess I’m gonna start using the famas some more, didn’t know the ttk was so good
Ggs nice steal
I wish I was better with the FCAR, but I’m more of a AKM guy. I also like the famas and it’s good, like it’s real good, but I like the akm
I really like the famas this season, but I switch back and forth with the akm.
honestly same
Why does FAMAS feel so much better than the other two when hip firing?
Revolver main for some reason, but for AR's i prefer the famas
Whichever can kill lights fastest
great video, but where are you get those stats, is it from game or you just test every weapon? im just curios to find similar stats for other weapons
ill add to desc
am i wrong for thinking the AK and FCAR should be faster when tac reloading? Has it always been like that, or did they balance it that way?
@@fishyfinnn i cant remember tbh
APPOH SPEAKS AND I LISTEN
Need two weapons per class every season (one in the beginning and one in mid season). That's not overkill like CoD (the have like 6+, lol) and some other games but a healthy variety. 3 gadgets per season is okay. They still need to work on balancing those a lot moreso than weapons. This season's weapons in particular were mid to me since I'm not a melee player, I like to shoot things in a FPS
edit: rifles and LMGs are pretty much perfect right now when it comes to balancing. You got Lewis with a faster ttk, still a big mag, but harder to control. m60 is weak but you basically have infinite ammo in a mag
How come the TTK differ according to body type? Aren't we dealing the same damage output with the same gun? So shouldn't the highest ttk weapon win every time
@@ggez8079 thats not how ttk works, i can give you a hypothetical that might help.
If a weapon does 150 dmg per bullet but shoots at 1 bullet per second
And anither gun does 100 dmg per bullet and shoots at 4 bullets per second. The first weapon will kill a light faster because it requires 1 shot, the 2nd will kill light slower but kill heavy faster because within that 1 second u got 4 shots off totalling 400. Fire rate and dmg per bullet matter. Even burst weapons we calculate the delay between burst
when i first played the finals, i can't kill anyone until I picked up the famas, I can say that I'm better with it
For me when it comes to long range I'm going with the ak fr
Where can I find an up-to-date excel of all the weapons? 😊
ill add to description
So all 3 are viable, and dont differ that much.
Apohh what is that horn you get when you win a round?
I am level 6 akm yet i like all 3.
Do you have your video settings listed somewhere? I feel like your game looks much more clear than mine
tbh i change them from time to time, i did make a video about my settings a while back though, they are mostly accurate still
Is it possible to compare high ping vs low ping in a 1v1? I feel like I die after going around cover a lot more in season 3. Like 30ms vs 15ms ping
i do not have the tools unfortunately
I really want to like the famas but for me I don’t really like it unfortunately… I feel like you get outgunned most of the time up close, and I feel like the range is bad which is weird. Ak is the best in season 3 for me.
appoh whats ur voltaic rank? ur aim looks pretty good
i dont aim train :p
Thats cool i thought u aim train cuz ur in voltaic server
@@4sked_ yeah i joined a while back and then nrver trained someone told me about them but i dont have time to train between work and content creation
Famas! Because I suck at aiming. Famas hip shoot is amazing!
AK is greater than the fcar right now. AK beats the famas only in hip fire accuracy, where the famas fails me most.
God the Famas needs a Scope. Iron Sight just holds this weapon back.
And tbh, the FCAR DMG should be at least 23 and MAG size back to 20. I get that the FCAR was OP, but 22 DMG is just too low
@@squatingmaster5126 yeah but people still do prefer fcar theres def a decision to be made here which is good
@@Appoh Yeah I agree with that, but I still think the difference should be bigger
Always have been, always will be an AKM Menace!
I don't know what is the best AR on medium, but MP-5 is definitely the best AR in the game.
Don't even tell me it's SMG, it's basically AR with smg skin, especially considering damage retention over distance
its an smg
@@jeffhill1213 light propaganda detected
Tell me you’re a Braindead light main without telling me you’re a braindead light main
Ak is good but kinda a hitmarker machine sometimes
❤ THE FINALS 😎👾
ak forever
i love the famas personally also i disagree with you saying that the iron sights are bad
that's why i said that the sights are really personal preference
A good Finals comparison with actual stat lists! I didn't know there was so much wierdness going on with their dry/half reload speeds until now.
I think the ARs are in a great spot right now - they are different enough from eachother to be fun and do the 'all rounder' nature of ARs well, but they'll still get beaten by the more situational and less versatile weapons in certain situations. To me, that's exactly how game ARs should be.
2:35 💀💀💀
I switch between the fcar and akm but I want to also give the famas a try
Edit: I destroyed everyone in world tour with the famas
Jango.... buddy
AK is my best weapon, and I hate that fact about myself
why? akm is good
Great video. Ty.
Where do you have access to the weapons' precise stats ?
description
@@Appoh Oh thanks, thought it was coming from a website
i live for famas and burst ars in games
No way bro just said light is the weakest class
talking purely from a competitive stand point for the "pro" scene. the MHH comp is still the dominant composition
Medium needs one more auto AR
Scar if u have good aim / ak if u have worse aim
FAMAS gang #1.
FACTS
NICE 👍
Fcar is ez to one clip even when it only had 20 per mag, but i cant aim and kill quick enough on ak... I guess Im just blind😅 (and fcar recoil is actually not that bad, I still one clip max like 35~38m once u get used to the new pattern)
This dude doesn’t like Fcar
I am Wish my aim is like you 😢
Easily FAMAS
BABE NEW APPOH VIDEO DROPPED LET ME TELL YA WHICH AR IS THE BEST ( *She don't careeee* )
Bro made a video about whats best and ended up telling us its all about preference💀💀💀
damn straight
Literally me 7:29
oh well it is, hi!
saying "which AR to use" sounds so wrong.
Niet, rifle is fine.
W
This video made me appreciate the FAMAS even more. Also the way you pronounce it is so odd (Famaz).
i unno i dont pronounce my s's very well i get lazy
Fcar ftw
I’m my point of view and experience with these three weapon.
Akm; best weapon against a lot of target, firer rate and good damage.
Famas; best damage, precision and best to kill faster light player.
Fcar; you are just a joke, best weapon for dumb player tried to proof the Fcar still viable, need to kill one target per magazine, the bullet pattern show it “accurate”, but you waste 5 bullets on 25 to shoot a player at 10m and that player take cover and came back to kill you easily. The only good side of this weapon is close range like 5m or less.
I think that those are all too op and some other medium weapons should be buffed. I play the model 1887 (have over 300 hours wi5h it), and i lost way to many times to teams that have a heavy stealing with two healing beams on him. I cant do anything against that with that fire rate (This goes also for the CL 40). There is also the fact that the ak and the fcar are both very forgiving when it comes to fights, If i miss one shot with the model its game over while with an ar, you are shooting multiple rounds a second for like 3 secs, so you have a lot of time to get target aquisition (which is guaranteed damage). Yes you could say that the model is op because it can 2 shot a medium or 3 shot a heavy, but this happens only when you hit perfect shots (which is immposible beyond like 15 m). Both the model and the CL have insanely long reload times while you literally remplace a mag for your ar in a second. Both the model and the cl should be buffed with more damage or an headshot multiplyer in the model's chase. I played some ak, famas and fcar in casual play and i have to say that you guys have it easy. Over the last seasons no change was made to the model while the famas got buff after buff and the ak and fcar stayed mostly the same. The state of medium is just sad.
TL;DR: The AK, FCAR and Famas are to op compared to the model and CL, with the model being too unforgiving in fights.
lmao
Lol
Out of the three I’d say famas is the weakest. Giving it a 0.75x headshot multiplier (maybe same for the light’s burst pistol for consistency) would do wonders