The Mont Tremblant bit is being cut out. I saw one layout, so put it in. Turns out daddy Stroll had other ideas. Good thing the edit function is an thing.
Although not an F1 circuit, but I'd like to mention Willow Springs being relatively famous for not changing the layout since it got paved in 1954 (apart from extending the pit lane before the 80s)
Isn't it the one of the oldest layouts in the world as well as the oldest layout in the US still in use after Pau (France) which hasn't changed since 1935
It was also just paved IIRC the literal layout of oiled dirt was the same. I used to live on the US Air Force base nearby. Was so cool to live 20 minutes from such a historic track. Nascar hosted their season opener there once
Mugello is still the same as it was built in 1974, except maybe for the pits. However, I think they had to change a ton of things surrounding the track after riders Otello Buscherini and Paolo Tordi died in accidents during the 1976 Grand Prix of Nations (which is known nowadays as the Italian Motorcycle Grand Prix).
There are also 2 tracks in France. First one is Lédenon which didn't change since its opening in 1973 and still hosts championships like FFSA GT4 and French F4. Second one is Pau-Arnos, opened in 1986, host of f.e. WTCR last year. Honorable mention goes to Tor Poznań in Poland, opened in 1977, where the only change was adding karting layout which will be host of ACCR Formula 4 Championship this year.
Mosport layout hasnt changed but it was widened around 2000 as well as the pit exit and entrance changed. I agree that it hasnt "changed" but there is too much to qualify
I thought Moss corner was originally a hairpin and it wasn't separated into two corners until later on, but I guess that change in design was made before the track was actually built.
@@nathanstroud2223 I believe it was originally conceived to be a hairpin, but Sterling Moss suggested the double apex corner instead, so the corner was built as it is today. The planned hairpin was never part of the track.
@@CrazyHades5516 Fair points all around, Rob. For me, I figured it was the racing layout itself that would qualify. That said, even the paved runoff at T2 has changed the character of the track where T2 is much quicker and the approach to T3 can be chaotic. Cheers!
Ahvenisto in Finland, if I remember correctly it uses the same layout since its foundation in 1967. Now it's mainly used for low profile or local racing series, but in the 70s and 80s hosted various international venues with high profile drivers, and some rounds of the European Rallycross Championship. Just because well, I fell in love with the virtual version for Assetto Corsa :)
I would definitely consider taking this series to niche F1 tracks that are still in use like the Circuit Du Charade in France (as hilarious as that would be). Ferrari's Fiorano facility as a multi-car race track would also be fascinating.
RE: Gilles Villeneuve I take my road bike there several times per year. I worked there one summer. I know that place pretty well. Looking at footage of Villeneuve’s win in Montréal is something I recommend, you’ll recognize most of the circuit. Last year, I decided I’d try and see what remained of the old pit lane. There are still bits of tarmac here and there, but you’d never guess it was once a pit lane. I’m teaching myself how to create a track in Blender so I can race the original layout. I went as far as to find high resolution drawings from the time. Sadly and surprisingly, none exists for AC… and I’m hoping against all odds that it’ll be part of Automobilista 2’s historic DLC. The changes are rather minor, but it’s the circuit with the most F1 races outside Europe.
You're correct in that the Adelaide short layout has changed (turn 8) but the V8s have always run on the short circuit from 1999-2020 and I assume for the revival later this year (wasn't run last year as the very recently deposed state government axed it, new government voted in Saturday almost immediately reinstated it). The race in 2000 that used the long layout was the ALMS Race of a Thousand Years which was a one off but did feature the R8 Audis.
Technically speaking, Lime Rock Park hasn't changed since 1957, although one could argue that only its Road Course layout stayed the same, since it had the Uphill chicane and the West Bend added to it, as optional layout elements.
@@johnshark5219 it’s a great track for anyone starting out in sim racing. Easy to learn but endlessly fun to find the limits on. I love going to IMSA races there
@@connorgagnon603 I wouldn’t call it that obscure, it’s in Forza. Coming from a guy in the Midwest who has access to dozens and dozens of no name tracks
Even though you intentionally excluded ovals, it's worth noting that Homestead Miami Speedway was originally shaped like a smaller version of Indianapolis, but was changed in 1997 to have more rounded corners after the tragic accident of John Nemechek (not to be confused with his nephew, John Hunter Nemechek). Aside from banking being added in 2003, the track has remained the same ever since.
@LordGoomba What I've seen said about it is: "Track management planned to make OMS as a replica of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with many important enhancements. The racing surface was one lane wider and, unlike the Indy speedway, the short chutes (the two shorter straight-aways, at either end of the track) were banked, which made the OMS slightly faster. " For whatever that's worth.
Albert Park wouldn't have counted, even if the layout hadn't changed for this year. They held non-championship F1 races in 1953 and 1956. Between the 50s and the first points race in Melbourne in 1996, the layout had changed as well.
Came here to say this. The roads they used for the 96 version did kinda exist back then and some parts are almost identical, but they did redo large parts of the layout to make it much more modern. Hilariously, the new changes for this year are closer to the original. Oh, and it used to be counter-clockwise.
@@Skasaha_ Except that the existing pitlane section was not there and the circuit as run in an anti clockwise fashion. The original circuit start line was pretty much where turn 3 exists now and was a straight shoot all the way from Jaguar Corner (no longer exists) all the way through to Melford Corner. There is actually an old road behind the current pitlane (that is now used as a footpath) that is the original circuit. These changes plus a bunch of others (more than i can be bothered listing haha) would only have 60-70% of the original circuit being used.
Here's another one to add to the list: Virginia International Raceway. Ignoring the additions that have been put in, it still has it's original layout and has been used for all levels of sports car racing in the US
8:40 the Supercars Championship have never raced on the old Grand Prix layout, only on the shorter layout. Turn 8 of the new layout used to be a mimic of Turn 10 of the Grand Prix layout. In 2002 they reprofiled the corner, increasing speeds through the corner to improve overtaking into Turn 9. They reprofiled Turn 8 again in 2009, albeit subtly after a driver lost his life at that corner in a Super 2 race
It's only a small British track, but Anglesey raceway was changed very dramatically from the last time I was there. Almost the entire track was changed to where I didn't recognise it when I saw it.
That "club track in Minnesota" is Brainerd International Raceway, which does still have its original layout, barring some widening of the front and final straights. An optional motorcycle line in turn 9 was added in the 90s, and the more common competition layout was created in the early 2000s, but you can still run the exact day one layout from 1968, including the longest straightaway and fastest right hander in North America. Never hosted F1, but it has had F3000, Can-Am, Trans Am, and AMA super bikes
It's also probably the only track in the world that can have 2 totally different types of racing happening on (technically) the same track at the same time.
@@RacingVagabond at MAP Proving Grounds there is drag racing on the old main straight, drifting on the straight between old turns 9 and 10, and HPDE on the competition course, all at the same time. It's a little unnerving coming around T13 and seeing cars with the chutes out in your mirror
East London GP circuit in South Africa. Did host F1 world championship early in the 60's. Original Pits still exist, but more have been added. Some tarmac coming out the complex has been replaced to remove bumps that were forming over time, otherwise a snap shot of the past. Think it is heralded as the oldest formal F1 championship track that is the most original in the world
Well the layout F1 ran is still there but that layout wasn't exactly the original. Before the war they ran on two versions of a longer course that both shared the pit straight with the current one.
@@corwintipper7317 I think Indianapolis is a special case because it's the only oval to have hosted an F1 race. I understand why he didn't include it in the video, but for the title of "oldest unmodified F1 track," being an oval shouldn't disqualify it, IMO.
Some tracks in Brazil are so old that still maintain the same pavement from when they were built. Tarumã holds the same layout for more than 50 years now and Brasília also kept the same layout (and paving) from opening in 1975 until they closed to reformation (which stopped and put the track in state of disrepair)
I remember Brasilia from Toca World Touring Cars, it was a very enjoyable track, surprisingly quick. I have to say, if I were Nelson Piquet, I'd be very upset that both of the tracks named after me are now out of use.
@@retardray5701 and both tracks were victims of corruption and bad management. Brasilia was set to host an indycar and MotoGP round and they started shedding the tarmac to put a new layer after 40 years using the same rugged and abrasive pavement. The justice stopped everything (rightfully, given they were stealing taxpayer money for themselves through the upgrades" and now they are just waiting to sell the lot to make condos
My home track, Mid Ohio, has had the same layout since *I believe* 1963. It opened in 62 and immediately made a change after a year. Despite that, it is a pretty long time to keep the layout. Keep up the great stories!
@@thereal84 as far as I understand it, they just added a straight by the bus stop... not "a lot curvier," in fact I still run the bus stop in SCCA. I'm frequently wrong, though, so if you can share a link to the changes I'd love to see what it looked like
Well, from what I have looked up, Road America has not changed it's layout, outside of some minor track width adjustments for safety reasons. And this one can be marked with an asterisk, but Mid-Ohio still has it's original layout, but is mostly used for special events.
Sepang hasn't changed a bit since it opened in 1998. I know it's only been opened for 24 years, but it never changed and has hosted MotoGP and F1 for a long time
@@AidanMillward I don't blame you. But that's the oldest track which is/was used regularly that I knew hasn't changed a bit since it opened. I know it isn't old enough to qualify
@@AidanMillward Interestingly, though, some of those tracks _have_ been modified, now. Most notable were probably the de-chicaning of Yas Marina and the reprofiling of the Singapore Sling. In fact, even Bahrain, which you specifically mention in the video as not having changed since it opened, had a turn reprofiled back in the early 2000s.
I live near Knockhill, and always enjoyed any race that was held there. The elevation changes and the tricky to determine speeds of the corners make it a blast. Wish it would be featured in more racing games other than project cars
I was quite proud of myself to shout out ‘knockhill’ when I saw this title… then thought F1? Hmmmm… Anyway… Love driving it on real life Love racing in Assetto Corsa VR. Can’t even start to imagine stewarding it though.. 😂🏴
@@Soulfirer Knockhill's outright track record was held by an F1 car. Footwork FA13 Judd set at the BTCC race in 1997. The car regularly did demos at the BTCC races thegre and went for the track record in '97. Edit: found an example- ua-cam.com/video/mrllPstMngk/v-deo.html
My Backyard race track has remained unchanged since I was a Boy: Down the start/finish straight, round the first tree, through the pond, over the flowerbed, passed the angry parent, down the fence straight before hanging it around the garden shed to finish.
@@ItzAnonyms Yes, only in 1933. After that, since 1935 to today, they take the left side, around the Beaumont Park. And F1/F2 used this circuit for 20-ish years. They made a few minor changes, because those streets still public road, and public security standard have changed, but it's still the same layout so far.
Mid-Ohio has had 2. The obvious chicane shortcut into the Keyhole, but the 'straight' between turn 9 and 10 used to be a couple of tight curves. The original track pavement still goes around the oak tree inside of turn 9
(re: original pavement still goes around the oak tree). That's cool, I did not know that. Here are the map coords, if anyone wants a look: 40.69343, -82.63272
Mosport (now called Canadian Tire Motorsports Park) located in Ontario, Canada was a F1 track back in the 60"s and early 70's but F1 outgrew the track. It hasn't had any major layout changes but pit out has been extended to after turn 1. It's still used for club racing, NASCAR, and ALMS races, not to mention a lot of Motorbike racing also.
Virginia International Raceway has never been changed to my knowledge. They've made additions to the track to essentially give it multiple smaller layouts, but the main layout or "Full Course" is still the same as it was when it was built. Willow Springs is another track that I'm pretty sure hasn't changed since it was build in terms of layout. It's interesting, many tracks in the US have had "layout changes" but still maintain the original layout and the changes made are more like alternate layouts rather than a complete removal of the original setup. Lime Rock Park is a good example being that even though it has had layout changes, or additions more accurately, the original layout still exists, and at least to my knowledge, is still commonly used.
What changed on the Nürburgring? The only thing I remember changing on the Nordschleife is the removal of the Steilstrecke and instead adding the Karussell. The GP circuit is more like a different track than a layout.
What about Brno? I know there were many races starting from the 1930s, yet the current curcuit was built from scratch and virtually had no changes since 1987. Mugello is another strong candidate.
I guess it wasn't included because no really major auto racing were here apart FIA GT and WTCC. And as motosport venue it doesn't count because MotoGP visited both old and new track so configuration was changed
Honorable mention to Le Castellet / Paul Ricard, which from 1971 to 1990 hosted 14 Grand Prix and accordinng to Racingcircuits saw changes only in 2001. So it's not still unchanged, by the time it was updated after 31 years of service it wasn't used, but it gets overlooked
A remarkable thing about Paul Ricard is that despite the complete overhaul into the test track, the "classic" layouts remained in very similar shape. The corners at the edge of the circuit before Mistral straight were made a bit tighter, as was the last corner. And the small chicane after the long right-hander was removed.
Correct on Laguna Seca. There are some old CART and IMSA races on youtube that show the original layout. They changed the track to the current config in 1987 to host MotoGP, to meet FIM minimum track distance. Cool footnote - it was a common crash for people to dip a wheel at the apex and oversteer out of the old Turn2 and end up in the "Lagoon". Lyn St. James did this in an IMSA race...
Mosport had 8 F1 races with the first Canadian GP in 1967. I was lucky enough to be there for that race. Only changes made since then are the track has been widened and the exit from the pits no longer happens before turn one. Best of all no bloody chicanes
I'm stumped, can't think of a track that hasn't changed. I remember the old pit location at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, but forgot just how long ago that change was. I am getting old. This video does get a thumbs up, of course.
For some reason I never bothered to look it up but that chart for silverstone has saved my life. Having played crammond’s Gp3/4 to death I am so familiar with the 1997-2010 layout and try as I might I’ve never been able to figure out exactly what the changes look like with the current version just from watching the tv. To the point it was just infuriating me. Thank you for making me realise that it was a futile exercise 👍
It was closed for a long time before being reopened in the 90s but by the looks VIR (Virginia International Raceway) has kept the same main layout since 1957.
Great concept! Greetings from Canada!! I'd like to add Mosport, as it's only change has been it's name, and hosted F1. And, for obscurity, my home track (only 70Km away): Atlantic Motorsport Park, near Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia. 1.6 mile permanent road course, opened in 1974. Gonna have to put some time into this one...
Track widened, pit lane entrance moved, bump at end of back straight removed, and run off areas paved, the last of which makes an error at turn two turn two much less consequential.
Interlagos hasn’t changed much since 1990, except for moving the pit entry/exit and constant resurfacing to remove the bumps, but it still falls short as the original layout was different.
Road America is a big one that would be on the list. I believe it’s been unchanged since the 50s bar some saftey and maybe an alternative layout or two
Agreed. They added a chicane instead of the kink in 2002, because us motorcyclists were tired of getting paralyzed at the kink... but "The Bend" is used only for bikes and car trackdays.
IIRC, there were some minor radius changes made in the Hurry-Downs during a repave, but yes, you should be able to use a map from the 1950s and not get lost.
As to the alternate layouts, there is a shunt near the Farmhouse that allows the use of either the front half, with the main straight the Turn 5, then shunting to the straight before Turn 13 and up the hill, or else the back half, shooting up the hill to turn 6, then the rest around to Canada Corner and then the shunt. Indycars, at least at one point, were able to take the shunt, subject to penalty, to avoid having to drive an additional 2 miles on a flat tire.
Mosport is interesting as although it has never had a layout change since it was built, it did famously have one between being announced and construction commencing. When looking at the proposed layout Sterling Moss suggested changing the rather simple hairpin into a two apex off camber corner. They took his advice and the section has always been known as Moss Corner. Yep Sir Stirling was able to suggest a great change to a track from looking at a plan, and people would listen.
Having been to Laguna Seca many times in my youth and actually driven there after the layout change, I can tell you that the on the old layout, the most epic wreck of that track occurred regularly between the old turns 2 and 3. Cars leaving the track and going end-over-end nearly missing spectators. The new layout may be slower, but the new section is very technical, trying to get the best corner speed out of 4 and maintain as much as possible before turn 5. Sears Point (Aka Infinion Raceway) is another cool track that was changed for. of all things, NASCAR. They made a bypass of the Carousel which is one of my favorite sections of the track. The good thing is you can still race the old layout. Great vid, I learned some stuff.
It took me a while to find Daytona in your list, but I remembered you driving there. Finally saw you had spelled it like the 2.5 mile oval. Correct young man!
The two Japanese tracks you omitted, Autopolis and Okayama, are still in constent use albeit not by F1 but their main layout did not change since they both openned in 1990.
These tracks have a lot in common, as I think Autopolis was also built with F1 in mind, so there probably hasn't been need to make any big changes to the tracks nor the facilities while they've continued to host smaller series. Okayama did have the small esses at the end of the first sector widened, not technically a layout change though.
@@AidanMillward Mallala was changed soon after it opened in the 60's, but has remained unaltered since. The bloody racing surface should be in a museum.
Near me is the first circuit in Indonesia, the Sentul International Circuit. It has not been changed since its inception in 1992 but new layout proposals are on schedule at the end of this year.
I would add Sentul International Circuit in Indonesia. 1. It's 30 years old and no layout change. 2. It's used to host WSBK, MotoGP, A1GP, and GP2 Asia. Now currently used for National Championship. Edit: Okay, Almost
I don't think Mosport has changed since it opened in 1961 with the exception of paving runoff areas that used to be gravel traps. Moss corner was made into a double apex hairpin rather than a normal hairpin but as far as I'm aware that change was made from the blueprints before the track was built.
Mosport held the Canadian Grand Prix back in the 60s and 70s and everything I’ve seen on the internet says that it’s been the same since it opened in 1961
nice video! off topic, but have you tried AMS 2? I like it as a historical immersion sort of game but it does have issues (limited livery spots, no custom helmets). It has some of these different track layouts in it, and it's absolutely beautiful. I know some folks are not a big fan of the general driving experience of it, but it's improving. May be good for some future background footage.
A lot of American ovals haven't had big layout changes, the only ones that really come to mind are homestead Miami, Phoenix, texas, bristol, and atlanta but a lot of others apply if you consider tracks that used to be dirt tracks
If you look at Laguna Seca on a map, or go there, the old track is actually still there, although it doesn't connect anymore. it would be really neat to see a race on that layout
Willow Springs raceway in California has never changed from when it was built in the 50's. It never hosted an F1 race, but Renault did do F1 testing there in the 80s.
I was originally going to shout out the Jacarepaguá circuit which hosted the Brazilian GP in 1978, and again between 1981 and 1989 but - I'll be damned - they changed that one, too! Only minor changes (turn 1, the hairpin onto the back straight, and the right-left turn just after the back straight were tightened) but that's it. 3 changes!
As you mentioned my home, Australia, Phillip Island had been shut for years & the track was redone & opened for GPMotocycles in 1989. It hasn't changed. Sydney built Eastern Creek Raceway (now called Sydney Motorsport Park) to steal the GP from P.I. in 1991 & although they built more onto it, the original circuit hasn't changed. And then there was the start of my love for F1 in 1968. Warwick Farm is where I saw Jack Brabham, Graeme Hill, & several others when I was 5. It was an F1 warm up called the Tasman Series, & the track has not changed at all, but sadly it is owned by the Australian Jockey Club & in the mid 70's they decided to stick to 1 horse power jobbies & ban motor racing.
I believe Watkins Glen has been basically the same since 1971, with a extra optional chicane added to the start of the back straight in 92. It seems F1 last raced there in 1980.
75 miles by road from Donington Park is Shelsley Walsh, which hasn't changed in 100 years. Apart from one meeting where low cloud cover brought the finish to just after Top Ess. F1 drivers like Stirling Moss and F1 cars have competed there.
They butchered Silverstone after they removed the bridge/priory section. Looked brilliant watching cars fly through there. Suzuka also had 130R neutered and destroyed
Mugello, Goiânia (Not an F1 track sadly) and Mosport never changed their layouts. I also thought about including Tarumã (Another non-F1 track sadly), but I don't know whether or not the chicanes at T3 and T9 count as changes. Same with Londrina, the new T2-T3 complex probably counts as changes. But maybe Cascavel counts, if we ignore the pits being mover from the now back straight to the current main straight
Ring Knutstorp in Sweden hasn't changed since 1970. They held F3 there and Alain Prost won one of the races according to Wikipedia. Also STCC raced there quite a few times
Brno in Czechia, build in 1986-87, F1 only tested privately there, but hosted several world championships series (motoGP, WSBK, WTCC, fia GT, A1GP) and except few changes of pit entry it still has the same profile.
well you can say that about interlagos, although it have been changed for the 1991 F1 season, the track layout have not been changed since them only add a longer pit exit and only surffered some repaving on some corners
but the old layout was also used, and it was massively different. I don't think i would qualify for that.. but I do wonder, did Jacarepaguá change before the.. you know, it's demise?
@@fernandoscheibler7004 yep, it change a bit when was construtected the Emerson Fittipaldi Oval in 1996, if not mistaken they resurfaced all the backstraight, but the basic layot did not change, but from what i can remember those 2 tracks (aside resurfaces) they basically didn't change the layout, they've done the max to not change, since layout change wasn't need
Portland International raceway is basically the same going back to its first Indycar/CART race, only changing the first corner chicane (wider and longer), and adding some additional width in turns 4-7
When was the first Indycar race at Portland, because watching back other old races that are on youtube, they changed the pitlane between I think 1983 and 84. Also the track went through a bunch of changes between 1961 and 70.
@@RLRSwanson Pit lane has always been on the right side of the front straight. There is a off shoot road to the left of the final turns, which leads to the drag strip (that goes down the front straight). That section is nowhere long enough to have the pit lane.
I thought I would mention some obscure ones in the Rocky Mountains, both in Colorado: la junta raceway was started in the 70’s along with pikes peak international raceway, and with the exception of some venue upgrades likes stands and curbs, both have remained unchanged
Aidan, that describes my home track, growing up. It has never been changed, it's nicknamed The Madhouse and was a multi season serial on the History Channel long before DTS... not Netflix. Bowman Gray Stadium.
Here in Brazil there were three circuits that hosted F1. Interlagos, jacarepagua and Brasília. Jacarepagua dosen't exist anymore and Interlagos was modified on the 80's. Brasília still retains it's original layout but only hosted an non official gp in 1974.
Here's some Australia, I can think of Baskerville in Tasmania.... Lakeside Raceway in QLD (the state)..... and.... Adelaide International Raceway (a bit of a stretch as it's still used for trackdays, but has only seen two proper race meetings in about 15 years).
Automotodrom Grobnik in Croatia hasn't changed since it opened in 1978, it held Moto GP races until 1990. Nowadays it hosts euro nascar and junior formulas
Mount panorama Bathurst in Australia Opened in 1938 and had one layout change in 1987 due to a fatal accident the year before Largely unchanged in over 80 years
I know it has probably been altered over the years, but could you please do a video on Mosport? I used to live within 15 min of the track and it is one of my favourites to drive on (even without my "bias" to it). It is a great track and F1 even went to it for a while in the 60s and 70s.
Oulton Park has had very little changes since F1 was last there in 1982. I know it was the International Gold cup but they were real F1 cars of their time. And there was a WSC meeting there in 1965. Only subtle changes (1953 being the big exception) but worthy of a mention.
Dijon-Prenois may count, depending on your rules - While they added the Parabolique section to extend the track in the 70s, the original configuration is still untouched and used as a short circuit, while the GP layout (with the Parabolique) is also untouched since its creation more than 30 years ago. The shorter layout was used for the 1974 F1 race, which famously had the shortest pole lap in F1 history until the Bahrain outer layout was used in 2020. The only one that I think definitely counts is Okayama (previously TI Aida), built in 1990 and still using the same configuration as was used in the 1994 and 1995 F1 races there. Sepang will make this list in a few years.
Aintree, host circuit of F1 Grand Prix races in 1955, 57 ,59, 61 and 62 still exists in its entirety. The club circuit is still used throughout the ,but because new stands and hospitality suites were built the whole GP circuit will probably never get used again.
As a Brazilian I really have to say: Interlagos and Jacarepagua. Both had F1 GPs. Interlagos had a lot of changes, and Jacarepagua don't exist anymore. (it was demolished to make room for an olympic training center built for the 2016 summer olympic)
Eastern creek in Sydney Australia was used by the ‘F1 of bikes’ 500cc’s in the 90s and has been in continual use since it was opened without any droid design changes. There was a smoothing of a kink into turn 6 I think but didn’t change the approach line of cars that raced there, just save on replanting grass on the outside verge.
I know it doesn't count, but Interlagos has stayed the same for the last 30 years (had no idea the layout was different before that). Another track I could think of, though obviously younger (23 years since it was opened, but still older then the likes of Sakhir, Shanghai and Istanbul), is Sepang, which never changed its layout. Edit: I really wonder, would Bahrain even count? It's been using the same layout since 2005 (they slighly changed one corner after the first race in 2004), except using the endurance circuit in 2010. And then obviously we had the outer loop layout, but that's a different track and a different GP.
Not an F1 track, but i'll give Sears Point (California, USA) an honorable mention. The original course from the 1960's only had one minor change in 1992, and you might not notice it if you were just comparing the original map to the current one. They moved the short front stretch sideways a few feet so it's no longer sharing the dragstrip's launch area. However, there are a few alternative layouts that have been added over the years, and neither NASCAR nor Indy Car use that original layout today
Mosport, as far as i know (which isn't very much) the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park has kept the same layout since it's opening in '61. But... they rebuilt the pits and extended pitlane in the 90s, and widened 3 turns when resurfacing the track. So, maybe? edit: i just noticed like 4 other mentions of mosport. i guess i'm late to the party. lol
Don't forget an ugly chicane that used to exist in a middle of the Esses. Not to mention that the original layout was very short (see Grand Prix Legends).
Some incorrect detail about the Adelaide Circuit as I'm a local. It was in 1999 that the V8 Supercars made a return to the Adelaide Street Circuit as a replacement for Formula 1. The circuit was already the shorter version. In the year 2000, the American Le Mans Series used the original full length track used by Formula 1. However, the following Supercar race still used the shorter track variant and this remained in place. And as you highlighted, the only change on the shorter circuit was Turn 8. There is a third variant which used for the Adelaide Motorsport Festival, (effectively our Goodwood Festival). This circuit turns right after the chicane onto Wakefield Road, and turns right again back into Victoria Park. If ever the full circuit were to be used again, there would have to be changes to turn 7 and 8 "Banana Bend", as there is now a bus tunnel located there. But the change would see the Banana Bend more closer to turn 6.
Admittedly at the start of the video, Brands Hatch immediately jumped to my mind... But I'd totally forgotten that started life shaped like a giant wotsit...
@@AidanMillward it was in the version I had. There were 3 or 4 switchback curves coming out of the hairpin past the old pits. The old pits were even identified on the circuit map in the printed manual.
@@timbrewin9241 I’ve just watched Race Sim Central do a lap of it, and it’s not there. The back straight is as it was back then with the kinks but no tight chicane that was there in 94 and 95. It was a few hundred metres after the left hand kink after coming out the hairpin. There’s no chicane at Eau Rouge either.
@@AidanMillward Oh, I thought you meant the chicane which you referred to as now being straightened. That's definitely in the game, as I've just picked my Lotus into a spin at the last right hander and taken my right front off.
Regarding Adelaide, if F1 were to return to the old layout it would actually have to be different as there’s a new bus tunnel exit at turns 7/8 which has changed the shape of that corner by effectively pulling that chicane forwards a little
The Mont Tremblant bit is being cut out. I saw one layout, so put it in.
Turns out daddy Stroll had other ideas. Good thing the edit function is an thing.
Dude, why are you ignoring Mallory Park???
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@@MrSpanks gr8 b8
Wait what changes did he bring. I thought he just widened the pit road and removed the old jumpy bit. Do those count as layout changes?
During a skip barber race weekend we all had to stop so that he could drive around his ferrari Enzo for a half hour or so.
Pretty sure you could count VIR. The original layout remained unchanged even after it was widened before the reopening at 2000.
Although not an F1 circuit, but I'd like to mention Willow Springs being relatively famous for not changing the layout since it got paved in 1954 (apart from extending the pit lane before the 80s)
Yep that is a Big one.
Isn't it the one of the oldest layouts in the world as well as the oldest layout in the US still in use after Pau (France) which hasn't changed since 1935
That's cause willow springs sucks (imo), probably fun to race on IRL but I hate it in racing games
Speaking of tracks in CA, does anyone know the history of Sonoma’s layouts?
It was also just paved IIRC the literal layout of oiled dirt was the same. I used to live on the US Air Force base nearby. Was so cool to live 20 minutes from such a historic track. Nascar hosted their season opener there once
Mugello is still the same as it was built in 1974, except maybe for the pits. However, I think they had to change a ton of things surrounding the track after riders Otello Buscherini and Paolo Tordi died in accidents during the 1976 Grand Prix of Nations (which is known nowadays as the Italian Motorcycle Grand Prix).
There are also 2 tracks in France. First one is Lédenon which didn't change since its opening in 1973 and still hosts championships like FFSA GT4 and French F4. Second one is Pau-Arnos, opened in 1986, host of f.e. WTCR last year.
Honorable mention goes to Tor Poznań in Poland, opened in 1977, where the only change was adding karting layout which will be host of ACCR Formula 4 Championship this year.
Mosport never changed in 60 years! The only change to the track itself was a bit of the tarmac being shaved off before T8 to remove a sudden 'jump'.
Mosport layout hasnt changed but it was widened around 2000 as well as the pit exit and entrance changed. I agree that it hasnt "changed" but there is too much to qualify
I thought Moss corner was originally a hairpin and it wasn't separated into two corners until later on, but I guess that change in design was made before the track was actually built.
@@nathanstroud2223 I believe it was originally conceived to be a hairpin, but Sterling Moss suggested the double apex corner instead, so the corner was built as it is today. The planned hairpin was never part of the track.
@@CrazyHades5516 Fair points all around, Rob. For me, I figured it was the racing layout itself that would qualify. That said, even the paved runoff at T2 has changed the character of the track where T2 is much quicker and the approach to T3 can be chaotic. Cheers!
And also the unneeded change in names.
Ahvenisto in Finland, if I remember correctly it uses the same layout since its foundation in 1967.
Now it's mainly used for low profile or local racing series, but in the 70s and 80s hosted various international venues with high profile drivers, and some rounds of the European Rallycross Championship.
Just because well, I fell in love with the virtual version for Assetto Corsa :)
"Race of champions" of sorts ua-cam.com/video/0DkNmS09fLI/v-deo.html
Heyyyyy! I was going to say that! :D
I would definitely consider taking this series to niche F1 tracks that are still in use like the Circuit Du Charade in France (as hilarious as that would be). Ferrari's Fiorano facility as a multi-car race track would also be fascinating.
Is there even a sim version of Fiorano? I can only think of PC2 which hasn't got any F1 cars
@@DJDiarrhea maybe in the original rfactor.
@@DJDiarrhea I only found the Fiorano track on pcars2 the other day, why the Ferrari essentials pack doesn’t include an F1 variant is beyond me.
@@DJDiarrhea there “are” F1 cars, but they coded the Pista-Fiorano track to only work with Ferrari
Fiorano would be an amazing karting venue
RE: Gilles Villeneuve
I take my road bike there several times per year. I worked there one summer. I know that place pretty well.
Looking at footage of Villeneuve’s win in Montréal is something I recommend, you’ll recognize most of the circuit.
Last year, I decided I’d try and see what remained of the old pit lane. There are still bits of tarmac here and there, but you’d never guess it was once a pit lane.
I’m teaching myself how to create a track in Blender so I can race the original layout. I went as far as to find high resolution drawings from the time. Sadly and surprisingly, none exists for AC… and I’m hoping against all odds that it’ll be part of Automobilista 2’s historic DLC. The changes are rather minor, but it’s the circuit with the most F1 races outside Europe.
You're correct in that the Adelaide short layout has changed (turn 8) but the V8s have always run on the short circuit from 1999-2020 and I assume for the revival later this year (wasn't run last year as the very recently deposed state government axed it, new government voted in Saturday almost immediately reinstated it). The race in 2000 that used the long layout was the ALMS Race of a Thousand Years which was a one off but did feature the R8 Audis.
Technically speaking, Lime Rock Park hasn't changed since 1957, although one could argue that only its Road Course layout stayed the same, since it had the Uphill chicane and the West Bend added to it, as optional layout elements.
Glad someone else mentioned that. I’m from the area so was hoping to see that one on here but it is a very obscure track
@@connorgagnon603 it's a track in iRacing that anyone that has the game surely have driven, but yeah, not many acknowledge its existance unfortunately
@@johnshark5219 it’s a great track for anyone starting out in sim racing. Easy to learn but endlessly fun to find the limits on. I love going to IMSA races there
@@connorgagnon603 I wouldn’t call it that obscure, it’s in Forza. Coming from a guy in the Midwest who has access to dozens and dozens of no name tracks
Even though you intentionally excluded ovals, it's worth noting that Homestead Miami Speedway was originally shaped like a smaller version of Indianapolis, but was changed in 1997 to have more rounded corners after the tragic accident of John Nemechek (not to be confused with his nephew, John Hunter Nemechek). Aside from banking being added in 2003, the track has remained the same ever since.
Atlanta and Darlington as well
Rip Ontario motor speedway, also an Indy copy in its day.
@@rickydeathtower
Ontario, Texas and Michigan were clones, weren't they?
@LordGoomba No, Texas World was a clone of Michigan and Ontario a clone of Indy. Truly nothing like Daytona or Talladega has been built since the 60s
@LordGoomba
What I've seen said about it is:
"Track management planned to make OMS as a replica of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with many important enhancements. The racing surface was one lane wider and, unlike the Indy speedway, the short chutes (the two shorter straight-aways, at either end of the track) were banked, which made the OMS slightly faster. "
For whatever that's worth.
Albert Park wouldn't have counted, even if the layout hadn't changed for this year. They held non-championship F1 races in 1953 and 1956. Between the 50s and the first points race in Melbourne in 1996, the layout had changed as well.
Came here to say this. The roads they used for the 96 version did kinda exist back then and some parts are almost identical, but they did redo large parts of the layout to make it much more modern. Hilariously, the new changes for this year are closer to the original.
Oh, and it used to be counter-clockwise.
@@Skasaha_ Except that the existing pitlane section was not there and the circuit as run in an anti clockwise fashion.
The original circuit start line was pretty much where turn 3 exists now and was a straight shoot all the way from Jaguar Corner (no longer exists) all the way through to Melford Corner. There is actually an old road behind the current pitlane (that is now used as a footpath) that is the original circuit. These changes plus a bunch of others (more than i can be bothered listing haha) would only have 60-70% of the original circuit being used.
Here's another one to add to the list: Virginia International Raceway. Ignoring the additions that have been put in, it still has it's original layout and has been used for all levels of sports car racing in the US
8:40 the Supercars Championship have never raced on the old Grand Prix layout, only on the shorter layout. Turn 8 of the new layout used to be a mimic of Turn 10 of the Grand Prix layout. In 2002 they reprofiled the corner, increasing speeds through the corner to improve overtaking into Turn 9. They reprofiled Turn 8 again in 2009, albeit subtly after a driver lost his life at that corner in a Super 2 race
It's only a small British track, but Anglesey raceway was changed very dramatically from the last time I was there. Almost the entire track was changed to where I didn't recognise it when I saw it.
That "club track in Minnesota" is Brainerd International Raceway, which does still have its original layout, barring some widening of the front and final straights. An optional motorcycle line in turn 9 was added in the 90s, and the more common competition layout was created in the early 2000s, but you can still run the exact day one layout from 1968, including the longest straightaway and fastest right hander in North America. Never hosted F1, but it has had F3000, Can-Am, Trans Am, and AMA super bikes
...and World Superbikes in 1989 / 90.
And the first series of turns are right handers. Turn left and you're in a world of sh!t.
@@toddmurray589 you're right. fixed
It's also probably the only track in the world that can have 2 totally different types of racing happening on (technically) the same track at the same time.
@@RacingVagabond at MAP Proving Grounds there is drag racing on the old main straight, drifting on the straight between old turns 9 and 10, and HPDE on the competition course, all at the same time. It's a little unnerving coming around T13 and seeing cars with the chutes out in your mirror
@@LizzyB123 I completely forgot about Proving Grounds, I should really get over there this year.
East London GP circuit in South Africa. Did host F1 world championship early in the 60's. Original Pits still exist, but more have been added. Some tarmac coming out the complex has been replaced to remove bumps that were forming over time, otherwise a snap shot of the past. Think it is heralded as the oldest formal F1 championship track that is the most original in the world
Well the layout F1 ran is still there but that layout wasn't exactly the original. Before the war they ran on two versions of a longer course that both shared the pit straight with the current one.
If repaving doesn't disqualify it, then surely that honor belongs to Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Aiden said “no ovals”
@@corwintipper7317 I think Indianapolis is a special case because it's the only oval to have hosted an F1 race. I understand why he didn't include it in the video, but for the title of "oldest unmodified F1 track," being an oval shouldn't disqualify it, IMO.
Some tracks in Brazil are so old that still maintain the same pavement from when they were built. Tarumã holds the same layout for more than 50 years now and Brasília also kept the same layout (and paving) from opening in 1975 until they closed to reformation (which stopped and put the track in state of disrepair)
I remember Brasilia from Toca World Touring Cars, it was a very enjoyable track, surprisingly quick. I have to say, if I were Nelson Piquet, I'd be very upset that both of the tracks named after me are now out of use.
@@retardray5701 and both tracks were victims of corruption and bad management. Brasilia was set to host an indycar and MotoGP round and they started shedding the tarmac to put a new layer after 40 years using the same rugged and abrasive pavement. The justice stopped everything (rightfully, given they were stealing taxpayer money for themselves through the upgrades" and now they are just waiting to sell the lot to make condos
My home track, Mid Ohio, has had the same layout since *I believe* 1963. It opened in 62 and immediately made a change after a year. Despite that, it is a pretty long time to keep the layout. Keep up the great stories!
Sorry, but the original Mid-Ohio is a lot more curvy than the newer one. The one you see today opened in 1990.
@@thereal84 as far as I understand it, they just added a straight by the bus stop... not "a lot curvier," in fact I still run the bus stop in SCCA. I'm frequently wrong, though, so if you can share a link to the changes I'd love to see what it looked like
@@eddyeckart2359 Sure, Sportscar Worldwide has a different diagram.
Well, from what I have looked up, Road America has not changed it's layout, outside of some minor track width adjustments for safety reasons.
And this one can be marked with an asterisk, but Mid-Ohio still has it's original layout, but is mostly used for special events.
Sepang hasn't changed a bit since it opened in 1998. I know it's only been opened for 24 years, but it never changed and has hosted MotoGP and F1 for a long time
I thought they added a chicane or was that just for bikes
This is why I went for the older tracks as post 1998 or so they’re all purpose built and future proof.
@@AidanMillward I don't blame you. But that's the oldest track which is/was used regularly that I knew hasn't changed a bit since it opened. I know it isn't old enough to qualify
@@AidanMillward Interestingly, though, some of those tracks _have_ been modified, now. Most notable were probably the de-chicaning of Yas Marina and the reprofiling of the Singapore Sling. In fact, even Bahrain, which you specifically mention in the video as not having changed since it opened, had a turn reprofiled back in the early 2000s.
Sepang had its last corner reprofiled in the 2017 if I’m not mistaken with its cambered last turn now
I live near Knockhill, and always enjoyed any race that was held there. The elevation changes and the tricky to determine speeds of the corners make it a blast. Wish it would be featured in more racing games other than project cars
Always a carnage fest in sim racing and it makes my job as a BTCC league steward a laugh 🤣
I was quite proud of myself to shout out ‘knockhill’ when I saw this title… then thought F1? Hmmmm…
Anyway…
Love driving it on real life
Love racing in Assetto Corsa VR.
Can’t even start to imagine stewarding it though.. 😂🏴
It's in iRacing now.
@@Soulfirer Knockhill's outright track record was held by an F1 car. Footwork FA13 Judd set at the BTCC race in 1997. The car regularly did demos at the BTCC races thegre and went for the track record in '97.
Edit: found an example- ua-cam.com/video/mrllPstMngk/v-deo.html
@@OsellaSquadraCorse thanks for that. Not seen it before.
Cheers for digging out the link 👍🏻
My Backyard race track has remained unchanged since I was a Boy:
Down the start/finish straight, round the first tree, through the pond, over the flowerbed, passed the angry parent, down the fence straight before hanging it around the garden shed to finish.
City of Pau Circuit stays the same since 1935.
Even if today, their biggest event is the F3 European Championship, it still a circuit full of history.
But the original layout from 1933 was going on the right side of the casino through the park instead of left and around it
@@ItzAnonyms Yes, only in 1933. After that, since 1935 to today, they take the left side, around the Beaumont Park. And F1/F2 used this circuit for 20-ish years.
They made a few minor changes, because those streets still public road, and public security standard have changed, but it's still the same layout so far.
Mid-Ohio has had 2. The obvious chicane shortcut into the Keyhole, but the 'straight' between turn 9 and 10 used to be a couple of tight curves. The original track pavement still goes around the oak tree inside of turn 9
(re: original pavement still goes around the oak tree). That's cool, I did not know that. Here are the map coords, if anyone wants a look: 40.69343, -82.63272
Mosport (now called Canadian Tire Motorsports Park) located in Ontario, Canada was a F1 track back in the 60"s and early 70's but F1 outgrew the track. It hasn't had any major layout changes but pit out has been extended to after turn 1. It's still used for club racing, NASCAR, and ALMS races, not to mention a lot of Motorbike racing also.
Virginia International Raceway has never been changed to my knowledge. They've made additions to the track to essentially give it multiple smaller layouts, but the main layout or "Full Course" is still the same as it was when it was built. Willow Springs is another track that I'm pretty sure hasn't changed since it was build in terms of layout. It's interesting, many tracks in the US have had "layout changes" but still maintain the original layout and the changes made are more like alternate layouts rather than a complete removal of the original setup. Lime Rock Park is a good example being that even though it has had layout changes, or additions more accurately, the original layout still exists, and at least to my knowledge, is still commonly used.
What changed on the Nürburgring? The only thing I remember changing on the Nordschleife is the removal of the Steilstrecke and instead adding the Karussell. The GP circuit is more like a different track than a layout.
They added a chicane before the pits in 1967.
What about Brno? I know there were many races starting from the 1930s, yet the current curcuit was built from scratch and virtually had no changes since 1987.
Mugello is another strong candidate.
I guess it wasn't included because no really major auto racing were here apart FIA GT and WTCC. And as motosport venue it doesn't count because MotoGP visited both old and new track so configuration was changed
Honorable mention to Le Castellet / Paul Ricard, which from 1971 to 1990 hosted 14 Grand Prix and accordinng to Racingcircuits saw changes only in 2001. So it's not still unchanged, by the time it was updated after 31 years of service it wasn't used, but it gets overlooked
Not quite, they shortened the track in 86 after Elio de Angelis was killed there in testing.
A remarkable thing about Paul Ricard is that despite the complete overhaul into the test track, the "classic" layouts remained in very similar shape. The corners at the edge of the circuit before Mistral straight were made a bit tighter, as was the last corner. And the small chicane after the long right-hander was removed.
Does it count as "not changing" if you just keep adding dozens of new layouts?
Correct on Laguna Seca. There are some old CART and IMSA races on youtube that show the original layout. They changed the track to the current config in 1987 to host MotoGP, to meet FIM minimum track distance.
Cool footnote - it was a common crash for people to dip a wheel at the apex and oversteer out of the old Turn2 and end up in the "Lagoon". Lyn St. James did this in an IMSA race...
It was done to host F1, but F1 decided to go to Phoenix instead. I think.
Bobby Rahal was a master of the old Layout
I wish they'd put "Historic Laguna" in some sim.
Very interesting subject matter. Thats why I keep coming back to this channel.
Mosport had 8 F1 races with the first Canadian GP in 1967. I was lucky enough to be there for that race. Only changes made since then are the track has been widened and the exit from the pits no longer happens before turn one. Best of all no bloody chicanes
Some tracks that never changed are Goiânia and Mosport Park. Both operating well after 30 years
I'm stumped, can't think of a track that hasn't changed. I remember the old pit location at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, but forgot just how long ago that change was. I am getting old. This video does get a thumbs up, of course.
For some reason I never bothered to look it up but that chart for silverstone has saved my life. Having played crammond’s Gp3/4 to death I am so familiar with the 1997-2010 layout and try as I might I’ve never been able to figure out exactly what the changes look like with the current version just from watching the tv. To the point it was just infuriating me. Thank you for making me realise that it was a futile exercise 👍
This is brilliant! As a fellow Brit I loved all the bits about the UK tracks. I love stuff like this because I didn't know 98% of it. Thank you Aid
It was closed for a long time before being reopened in the 90s but by the looks VIR (Virginia International Raceway) has kept the same main layout since 1957.
ack nm, it was widened in the rebuild.
Great concept! Greetings from Canada!! I'd like to add Mosport, as it's only change has been it's name, and hosted F1. And, for obscurity, my home track (only 70Km away): Atlantic Motorsport Park, near Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia. 1.6 mile permanent road course, opened in 1974. Gonna have to put some time into this one...
Track widened, pit lane entrance moved, bump at end of back straight removed, and run off areas paved, the last of which makes an error at turn two turn two much less consequential.
Interlagos hasn’t changed much since 1990, except for moving the pit entry/exit and constant resurfacing to remove the bumps, but it still falls short as the original layout was different.
Problem is, 1990 layout butcherd half of the OG layout, so it doesn't qualify
Road America is a big one that would be on the list. I believe it’s been unchanged since the 50s bar some saftey and maybe an alternative layout or two
It would make the list as I don't think any changes were made to any of the corners (although some drivers would love the Kink changed, I think).
Agreed. They added a chicane instead of the kink in 2002, because us motorcyclists were tired of getting paralyzed at the kink... but "The Bend" is used only for bikes and car trackdays.
IIRC, there were some minor radius changes made in the Hurry-Downs during a repave, but yes, you should be able to use a map from the 1950s and not get lost.
As to the alternate layouts, there is a shunt near the Farmhouse that allows the use of either the front half, with the main straight the Turn 5, then shunting to the straight before Turn 13 and up the hill, or else the back half, shooting up the hill to turn 6, then the rest around to Canada Corner and then the shunt. Indycars, at least at one point, were able to take the shunt, subject to penalty, to avoid having to drive an additional 2 miles on a flat tire.
@@toddmurray589 I can see motorcyclists not loving the 4 inches of runoff at the Kink.
Mosport is interesting as although it has never had a layout change since it was built, it did famously have one between being announced and construction commencing. When looking at the proposed layout Sterling Moss suggested changing the rather simple hairpin into a two apex off camber corner. They took his advice and the section has always been known as Moss Corner.
Yep Sir Stirling was able to suggest a great change to a track from looking at a plan, and people would listen.
Truth be told I haven't run Mosport since the GPL days. Seen some races in iRacing and it looks absolutely mental in terms of trying to overtake.
Having been to Laguna Seca many times in my youth and actually driven there after the layout change, I can tell you that the on the old layout, the most epic wreck of that track occurred regularly between the old turns 2 and 3. Cars leaving the track and going end-over-end nearly missing spectators. The new layout may be slower, but the new section is very technical, trying to get the best corner speed out of 4 and maintain as much as possible before turn 5. Sears Point (Aka Infinion Raceway) is another cool track that was changed for. of all things, NASCAR. They made a bypass of the Carousel which is one of my favorite sections of the track. The good thing is you can still race the old layout. Great vid, I learned some stuff.
It took me a while to find Daytona in your list, but I remembered you driving there. Finally saw you had spelled it like the 2.5 mile oval. Correct young man!
The two Japanese tracks you omitted, Autopolis and Okayama, are still in constent use albeit not by F1 but their main layout did not change since they both openned in 1990.
These tracks have a lot in common, as I think Autopolis was also built with F1 in mind, so there probably hasn't been need to make any big changes to the tracks nor the facilities while they've continued to host smaller series. Okayama did have the small esses at the end of the first sector widened, not technically a layout change though.
Phillip Island in Australia hasn't changed since 1988, but is different to it's original 1950's layout... but similar
@@Left-Foot-Brake they tightened Honda corner and moved it forward, or something like that.
@@AidanMillward Mallala was changed soon after it opened in the 60's, but has remained unaltered since. The bloody racing surface should be in a museum.
Near me is the first circuit in Indonesia, the Sentul International Circuit. It has not been changed since its inception in 1992 but new layout proposals are on schedule at the end of this year.
I would add Sentul International Circuit in Indonesia.
1. It's 30 years old and no layout change.
2. It's used to host WSBK, MotoGP, A1GP, and GP2 Asia. Now currently used for National Championship.
Edit: Okay, Almost
Almost 30 years old (opened in 93)
@@haryosoo Okay, almost. And maybe I will take that circuit off the list if the proposed renovation go ahead.
@@mnaufaldillah9254 Didn't Mang Kamil propose to make some alteration on it? I don't know the exact plan but I think some layout change is inevitable.
@@haryosoo Yeah. Until that happen. It stays on the list.
Spielberg/A1 Ring/Red Bull Ring also had some fairly massive changes over the years of its existence
I don't think Mosport has changed since it opened in 1961 with the exception of paving runoff areas that used to be gravel traps. Moss corner was made into a double apex hairpin rather than a normal hairpin but as far as I'm aware that change was made from the blueprints before the track was built.
The bump at the end of the back straight was shaved after a car went airborne. I think that happened in the mid ‘80s.
Mosport held the Canadian Grand Prix back in the 60s and 70s and everything I’ve seen on the internet says that it’s been the same since it opened in 1961
nice video!
off topic, but have you tried AMS 2? I like it as a historical immersion sort of game but it does have issues (limited livery spots, no custom helmets). It has some of these different track layouts in it, and it's absolutely beautiful. I know some folks are not a big fan of the general driving experience of it, but it's improving. May be good for some future background footage.
A lot of American ovals haven't had big layout changes, the only ones that really come to mind are homestead Miami, Phoenix, texas, bristol, and atlanta but a lot of others apply if you consider tracks that used to be dirt tracks
Also Darlington since they moved the finish line.
If you look at Laguna Seca on a map, or go there, the old track is actually still there, although it doesn't connect anymore. it would be really neat to see a race on that layout
Willow Springs raceway in California has never changed from when it was built in the 50's. It never hosted an F1 race, but Renault did do F1 testing there in the 80s.
I was originally going to shout out the Jacarepaguá circuit which hosted the Brazilian GP in 1978, and again between 1981 and 1989 but - I'll be damned - they changed that one, too! Only minor changes (turn 1, the hairpin onto the back straight, and the right-left turn just after the back straight were tightened) but that's it. 3 changes!
Loved that track! But, um, they've made a pretty major change to it with bulldozers...
As you mentioned my home, Australia, Phillip Island had been shut for years & the track was redone & opened for GPMotocycles in 1989. It hasn't changed. Sydney built Eastern Creek Raceway (now called Sydney Motorsport Park) to steal the GP from P.I. in 1991 & although they built more onto it, the original circuit hasn't changed.
And then there was the start of my love for F1 in 1968. Warwick Farm is where I saw Jack Brabham, Graeme Hill, & several others when I was 5.
It was an F1 warm up called the Tasman Series, & the track has not changed at all, but sadly it is owned by the Australian Jockey Club & in the mid 70's they decided to stick to 1 horse power jobbies & ban motor racing.
I believe Watkins Glen has been basically the same since 1971, with a extra optional chicane added to the start of the back straight in 92. It seems F1 last raced there in 1980.
At one point in the late 70s/early 80s they added a (still relatively fast) chicane in the middle of the Esses (it doesn't exist anymore).
The problem is The Glen was quite different in the 60s.
75 miles by road from Donington Park is Shelsley Walsh, which hasn't changed in 100 years. Apart from one meeting where low cloud cover brought the finish to just after Top Ess. F1 drivers like Stirling Moss and F1 cars have competed there.
Have (or would) you ever do a video about how much the F1 cars would need to change for the ovals?! Just a pretty random thought 😊.
They butchered Silverstone after they removed the bridge/priory section. Looked brilliant watching cars fly through there.
Suzuka also had 130R neutered and destroyed
Indeed. Also Spa in Belgia has been buthered by removing the bus stop chicane after 2002 and putting tarmac in to the safety areas instead of sand.
Thanks for alluding to Brainerd, MN! lol
The only thing that's changed at Mugello is the pit entry and run-offs, otherwise it's the same layout as when it opened in 1974.
Mugello, Goiânia (Not an F1 track sadly) and Mosport never changed their layouts. I also thought about including Tarumã (Another non-F1 track sadly), but I don't know whether or not the chicanes at T3 and T9 count as changes. Same with Londrina, the new T2-T3 complex probably counts as changes. But maybe Cascavel counts, if we ignore the pits being mover from the now back straight to the current main straight
Ring Knutstorp in Sweden hasn't changed since 1970. They held F3 there and Alain Prost won one of the races according to Wikipedia. Also STCC raced there quite a few times
Brno in Czechia, build in 1986-87, F1 only tested privately there, but hosted several world championships series (motoGP, WSBK, WTCC, fia GT, A1GP) and except few changes of pit entry it still has the same profile.
well you can say that about interlagos, although it have been changed for the 1991 F1 season, the track layout have not been changed since them only add a longer pit exit and only surffered some repaving on some corners
but the old layout was also used, and it was massively different. I don't think i would qualify for that.. but I do wonder, did Jacarepaguá change before the.. you know, it's demise?
@@fernandoscheibler7004 yep, it change a bit when was construtected the Emerson Fittipaldi Oval in 1996, if not mistaken they resurfaced all the backstraight, but the basic layot did not change, but from what i can remember those 2 tracks (aside resurfaces) they basically didn't change the layout, they've done the max to not change, since layout change wasn't need
Portland International raceway is basically the same going back to its first Indycar/CART race, only changing the first corner chicane (wider and longer), and adding some additional width in turns 4-7
When was the first Indycar race at Portland, because watching back other old races that are on youtube, they changed the pitlane between I think 1983 and 84. Also the track went through a bunch of changes between 1961 and 70.
@@RLRSwanson Pit lane has always been on the right side of the front straight. There is a off shoot road to the left of the final turns, which leads to the drag strip (that goes down the front straight). That section is nowhere long enough to have the pit lane.
@@jeremybrahm3326 I need to get my eyes checked. I could swear the final turns are different between 1982-3 and then 84.
Grobnik, Croatia. Hosted "MotoGP" races in the 80's and a lot of other series. Even Keke Rosberg drove a F1 car around it.
I thought I would mention some obscure ones in the Rocky Mountains, both in Colorado: la junta raceway was started in the 70’s along with pikes peak international raceway, and with the exception of some venue upgrades likes stands and curbs, both have remained unchanged
Aidan, that describes my home track, growing up. It has never been changed, it's nicknamed The Madhouse and was a multi season serial on the History Channel long before DTS... not Netflix. Bowman Gray Stadium.
Here in Brazil there were three circuits that hosted F1. Interlagos, jacarepagua and Brasília. Jacarepagua dosen't exist anymore and Interlagos was modified on the 80's. Brasília still retains it's original layout but only hosted an non official gp in 1974.
Here's some Australia, I can think of Baskerville in Tasmania.... Lakeside Raceway in QLD (the state)..... and.... Adelaide International Raceway (a bit of a stretch as it's still used for trackdays, but has only seen two proper race meetings in about 15 years).
Love your channel, have a look at Lakeside in Queensland as it was part of the Tasmin series and has had the stars of F1 race there.
Limerock, the original layout is still used every year they just added a potential for a chicane
Automotodrom Grobnik in Croatia hasn't changed since it opened in 1978, it held Moto GP races until 1990. Nowadays it hosts euro nascar and junior formulas
Mount panorama Bathurst in Australia
Opened in 1938 and had one layout change in 1987 due to a fatal accident the year before
Largely unchanged in over 80 years
I know it has probably been altered over the years, but could you please do a video on Mosport? I used to live within 15 min of the track and it is one of my favourites to drive on (even without my "bias" to it). It is a great track and F1 even went to it for a while in the 60s and 70s.
Oulton Park has had very little changes since F1 was last there in 1982. I know it was the International Gold cup but they were real F1 cars of their time. And there was a WSC meeting there in 1965. Only subtle changes (1953 being the big exception) but worthy of a mention.
Oulton has changed since then , chicane at knickerbrook for a start also foulstons
Was going to say Goodwood... but then read that the chicane at the end wasn't part of the original track layout. Damn.
Dijon-Prenois may count, depending on your rules - While they added the Parabolique section to extend the track in the 70s, the original configuration is still untouched and used as a short circuit, while the GP layout (with the Parabolique) is also untouched since its creation more than 30 years ago. The shorter layout was used for the 1974 F1 race, which famously had the shortest pole lap in F1 history until the Bahrain outer layout was used in 2020.
The only one that I think definitely counts is Okayama (previously TI Aida), built in 1990 and still using the same configuration as was used in the 1994 and 1995 F1 races there.
Sepang will make this list in a few years.
Love these videos !
My initial thought was Sepang, although it isn't 30 years old yet. I can't remember any changes from it's original layout.
I appreciate Daytona being spelled with a bunch of a's at the end.
Aintree, host circuit of F1 Grand Prix races in 1955, 57 ,59, 61 and 62 still exists in its entirety. The club circuit is still used throughout the ,but because new stands and hospitality suites were built the whole GP circuit will probably never get used again.
Anderstorp, Sweden. Still has the original layout apart from the start has been moved. The track is still active.
In 2000 the le mans series raced on the old Adelaide track. The Adelaide 500 however has always been run on the shorter circuit.
Goodwood hasn't changed since 1948.
As a Brazilian I really have to say: Interlagos and Jacarepagua. Both had F1 GPs. Interlagos had a lot of changes, and Jacarepagua don't exist anymore. (it was demolished to make room for an olympic training center built for the 2016 summer olympic)
Eastern creek in Sydney Australia was used by the ‘F1 of bikes’ 500cc’s in the 90s and has been in continual use since it was opened without any droid design changes. There was a smoothing of a kink into turn 6 I think but didn’t change the approach line of cars that raced there, just save on replanting grass on the outside verge.
Also the scene of THAT Skaife/Ingall moment.
I know it doesn't count, but Interlagos has stayed the same for the last 30 years (had no idea the layout was different before that).
Another track I could think of, though obviously younger (23 years since it was opened, but still older then the likes of Sakhir, Shanghai and Istanbul), is Sepang, which never changed its layout.
Edit: I really wonder, would Bahrain even count? It's been using the same layout since 2005 (they slighly changed one corner after the first race in 2004), except using the endurance circuit in 2010. And then obviously we had the outer loop layout, but that's a different track and a different GP.
That track in Minnesota your refer to at the beginning is clearly Brainerd International Raceway.
Not an F1 track, but i'll give Sears Point (California, USA) an honorable mention. The original course from the 1960's only had one minor change in 1992, and you might not notice it if you were just comparing the original map to the current one. They moved the short front stretch sideways a few feet so it's no longer sharing the dragstrip's launch area. However, there are a few alternative layouts that have been added over the years, and neither NASCAR nor Indy Car use that original layout today
Mosport, as far as i know (which isn't very much) the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park has kept the same layout since it's opening in '61.
But... they rebuilt the pits and extended pitlane in the 90s, and widened 3 turns when resurfacing the track.
So, maybe?
edit: i just noticed like 4 other mentions of mosport. i guess i'm late to the party. lol
How about doing a series on tracks that have changed the most?
Watkins Glen? Apart from having different layouts introduced over the years it's basically been the same track since about 50 years.
They added a chicane at the end of the back straight... Look up the Tommy Kendal 1991 IMSA GTP crash for the justification.
@@toddmurray589 Still, that's one chicane only. The rest of the track remained basically unchanged.
Don't forget an ugly chicane that used to exist in a middle of the Esses. Not to mention that the original layout was very short (see Grand Prix Legends).
Some incorrect detail about the Adelaide Circuit as I'm a local. It was in 1999 that the V8 Supercars made a return to the Adelaide Street Circuit as a replacement for Formula 1. The circuit was already the shorter version. In the year 2000, the American Le Mans Series used the original full length track used by Formula 1. However, the following Supercar race still used the shorter track variant and this remained in place. And as you highlighted, the only change on the shorter circuit was Turn 8.
There is a third variant which used for the Adelaide Motorsport Festival, (effectively our Goodwood Festival). This circuit turns right after the chicane onto Wakefield Road, and turns right again back into Victoria Park.
If ever the full circuit were to be used again, there would have to be changes to turn 7 and 8 "Banana Bend", as there is now a bus tunnel located there. But the change would see the Banana Bend more closer to turn 6.
Admittedly at the start of the video, Brands Hatch immediately jumped to my mind... But I'd totally forgotten that started life shaped like a giant wotsit...
Mosport forsure!! Gotta show love to my hometown favorite!!!
Great stuff, like given!
You should play Grand Prix 2 and drive Circuit Gilles Villeneuve to see some of the changes....
It wasn’t in the game.
@@AidanMillward it was in the version I had. There were 3 or 4 switchback curves coming out of the hairpin past the old pits. The old pits were even identified on the circuit map in the printed manual.
@@AidanMillward I've just booted my old laptop and loaded the game - it's definitely there.
@@timbrewin9241 I’ve just watched Race Sim Central do a lap of it, and it’s not there. The back straight is as it was back then with the kinks but no tight chicane that was there in 94 and 95. It was a few hundred metres after the left hand kink after coming out the hairpin.
There’s no chicane at Eau Rouge either.
@@AidanMillward Oh, I thought you meant the chicane which you referred to as now being straightened. That's definitely in the game, as I've just picked my Lotus into a spin at the last right hander and taken my right front off.
Regarding Adelaide, if F1 were to return to the old layout it would actually have to be different as there’s a new bus tunnel exit at turns 7/8 which has changed the shape of that corner by effectively pulling that chicane forwards a little