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  • @earlyhemisphere
    @earlyhemisphere Рік тому +15436

    next: "hollow knight players find out they can pogo their own pogo"

    • @johnathonfranklin
      @johnathonfranklin Рік тому +1071

      "hollow Knight players figure out how to pogo air"

    • @Redstoner34526
      @Redstoner34526 Рік тому +485

      @@johnathonfranklinalready found that out but it’s only possible with Tas cuz airwalk is super weird and basically humanly impossible

    • @milesdoblosky1619
      @milesdoblosky1619 Рік тому +97

      Multi-player in a nutshell

    • @caniputmyballsinyourjaw
      @caniputmyballsinyourjaw Рік тому +5

      @@Redstoner34526 nah wall cling storage is possible but they cant to it on a tas level

    • @thiagosantellan1062
      @thiagosantellan1062 Рік тому +54

      Hollow knight players just founded out how to pogo yourself xd

  • @yourlocalsplixson5081
    @yourlocalsplixson5081 Рік тому +11039

    This community needs Silksong desperately

    • @Trithis2077
      @Trithis2077 Рік тому +354

      Na, speed runners will always be looking for wild skips. If you ever want to see a hilarious graph, look at the Any% history graph of Zelda: Skyward Sword. It was a 5-hour speed run for 4 years and then over the course of 1 year got down to a 1-hour 30-minute speed run.

    • @Jonrocks7
      @Jonrocks7 Рік тому +44

      Don’t worry, nintendo has confirmed it will release this year, we have never gotten an official release year untill now, the date is still unconfirmed

    • @serumono
      @serumono Рік тому +65

      ​@@Jonrocks7 Xbox did, not nintendo

    • @pastorslant
      @pastorslant Рік тому +24

      ​@@Trithis2077 I love looking at the evolution of speed running. Watched a video recently about how the master sword speed run in BotW was several hours for years and was totally rng, then in a matter of months it dropped to 30 minutes.

    • @LIAuNXeNON
      @LIAuNXeNON Рік тому +6

      We do but we are also very patient

  • @meta_username
    @meta_username Рік тому +4244

    That's why Silksong hasn't been released yet. We haven't found all the possible tech in its predecessor yet.

    • @josh1electricboogaloo250
      @josh1electricboogaloo250 Рік тому +230

      We won’t get silk song until we can pogo off the knight himself

    • @Final.Fate45
      @Final.Fate45 Рік тому +98

      Silksong to HK community: You are not yet worthy.

    • @FinnaWoken
      @FinnaWoken 7 місяців тому +6

      Imagine of arkham city didn't release until players finally discovered all of asylum's secrets 😂

    • @braedenmu5380
      @braedenmu5380 7 місяців тому +5

      We have to 100% the game before unlocking Luigi 💀

    • @bowenmadden6122
      @bowenmadden6122 6 місяців тому

      We won't get Silksong until the nail can pogo with the knight

  • @phobosnazwisko
    @phobosnazwisko Рік тому +1228

    on today's episode of "shit that people found out while waiting for Silksong"

  • @sapphis_lazuli
    @sapphis_lazuli Рік тому +1151

    i STILL have not gotten over how cool stall-ball is and now THIS?!

    • @danielibarra8032
      @danielibarra8032 Рік тому +7

      I must have missed this, what is it?

    • @sapphis_lazuli
      @sapphis_lazuli Рік тому

      @@danielibarra8032 fire has a vid on it! basically if you have vsync on and shoot a fireball at a downward slope at just the right spot, the fireball is "stalled" by the slope and stays long enough for the knight to pogo it.
      it can replace monarch wings in certain cases, notably the one jump in white palace for which wings is *required* and that means the low% TE speedrun route no longer includes wings (and the person with vids on that is skurry) it's pretty fascinating

    • @ImpostorKat-ur4zl
      @ImpostorKat-ur4zl Рік тому +11

      Stallball is more worth though it takes longer to figure out ad perfect since vs is the first spell of the game

    • @SilverDragonMoon18
      @SilverDragonMoon18 5 місяців тому

      ⁠@@danielibarra8032 certain rooms’ platforms’ geometry causes the vengeful spirit projectile to slow down - or “stall” - to the point where you can pogo off of it

    • @brunopagnoncelli975
      @brunopagnoncelli975 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@danielibarra8032 it's....well
      You cast vengeful spirit, dash and pogo on it
      I know i'm a year late but at least i answered

  • @IIAwfulWaffleII
    @IIAwfulWaffleII Рік тому +153

    It's funny how we're insulting ourselves, not by saying "mfs need to touch grass" but instead "mfs need to touch Silksong"

  • @TheSoulHunter69
    @TheSoulHunter69 Рік тому +219

    Team cherry was like " they haven't discovered that skip yet so let's hold on on Silk song for a bit more "

    • @zisischartampilas6601
      @zisischartampilas6601 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah like they know it can be done xD
      I think they wait for any radiance 3.0 to be defeated glichless

    • @TheSoulHunter69
      @TheSoulHunter69 8 місяців тому +4

      @@zisischartampilas6601 LOL, those guys are waiting for us to completely eat this shit out before they release the next one

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube Рік тому +520

    people still finding new things about this game 6 years later, truly impressive stuff

    • @milkslugg
      @milkslugg Рік тому +8

      the fans grow desperate for silksong and tbh its fair

    • @LIAuNXeNON
      @LIAuNXeNON Рік тому +7

      Personally I love developers that embrace Speedrun strats hell Celeste made a Speedrun mechanic an in game mechanic within a dlc

    • @EaterOfGeese
      @EaterOfGeese 4 місяці тому

      Undertale:

  • @sootspirit5556
    @sootspirit5556 Рік тому +75

    "No voice to cry suffering"
    Vessel: *does this*

  • @aardpickle5640
    @aardpickle5640 Рік тому +1596

    In 2037 Silksong hasn’t come out yet and people have figured out how to beat the game by inputting a very long and complex series of button presses

    • @mocanasuciprian3472
      @mocanasuciprian3472 Рік тому +143

      That's what a TAS is

    • @ladyravendale1
      @ladyravendale1 Рік тому +81

      That’s also what Arbitrary Code Execution is.

    • @AaronRotenberg
      @AaronRotenberg Рік тому +303

      That's also what playing the game normally is.

    • @bumfuzzeler50
      @bumfuzzeler50 Рік тому +47

      Nah bro someone's gonna memorize all the inputs and do it blindfolded. Ima bet it'll be pointcrow

    • @ladyravendale1
      @ladyravendale1 Рік тому +21

      @@bumfuzzeler50 That’s not a feasible method on its own, but since the nail makes noise when it hits walls you could use those to make consistent strats for room navigation. The main issue with blindfold is the bosses, since their patterns are rng.

  • @BuggieTheBugSRB2
    @BuggieTheBugSRB2 Рік тому +26

    This is the "Parry your own shotgun" from Ultrakill of Hollow Knight

  • @Magolor9000
    @Magolor9000 Рік тому +173

    So abyss shriek + wings instead of crystal dash? 👁️👄👁️

    • @thesuperginge1348
      @thesuperginge1348 8 місяців тому +2

      Isn't it CD that triggers Myla getting corrupted? So we could get by without CD? :)

  • @RapidProbably
    @RapidProbably Рік тому +524

    Wait what?! How precise is this? That’s insane

    • @calvindang7291
      @calvindang7291 Рік тому +197

      The window is about 0.08s (4 frames on 50fps). If you try it yourself, you should be able to get decent consistency pretty quickly.

    • @Vetrical
      @Vetrical Рік тому +29

      Can't you just use shriek and spam down and attack so you pogo when shriek ends?

    • @gapplssb
      @gapplssb Рік тому +14

      You have to double jump and immideatly pogo

    • @ToreUltimate
      @ToreUltimate Рік тому +8

      ​@@Vetrical yea probably, you just need to be quick enough

    • @matheuscabral9618
      @matheuscabral9618 Рік тому +7

      @@Vetrical you would need to click at 12.5 times a second

  • @gamecrusader6768
    @gamecrusader6768 Рік тому +84

    Seeing the entire discussion about this in the speedrunning discord was crazy lol

  • @DynamicMagi
    @DynamicMagi Рік тому +23

    Oh no this might be a time-save in the Path of Pain speedrun

  • @Loebane
    @Loebane Рік тому +8

    I'm kind of amazed that something so seemingly basic was just now found, consider that pogoing off of other spells was already discovered.

  • @Red_Steampunker
    @Red_Steampunker Рік тому +9

    “Hmmm needs a triple jump… ok how bout a quadruple jump?”

  • @sebastianfontanez1081
    @sebastianfontanez1081 10 місяців тому +4

    "Breaking News, Hollow Knight players discover they can pogo off of gravity"

    • @maysee2515
      @maysee2515 6 місяців тому

      I think that's just a regular jump?

  • @melon0637
    @melon0637 Рік тому +23

    White palace speedruns are going to have a new wr 💀💀

  • @avasam06
    @avasam06 Рік тому +6

    This is one of those "Has no one ever done this before?" moment.

  • @FuzzyJeffTheory
    @FuzzyJeffTheory Рік тому +38

    It’s crazy that no one has ever stumbled across this in 6 years until now

  • @Schenkel101
    @Schenkel101 Рік тому +23

    Crazy that stallball was found before this, even if it is late game.
    Also, DDark pogo when?

  • @The_Darkness07
    @The_Darkness07 Рік тому +8

    POV : after i finished the white palace then find this video D:

    • @user-kb6fs6sx8e
      @user-kb6fs6sx8e 11 місяців тому +1

      Yep in the same boat

    • @istealkids1388
      @istealkids1388 7 місяців тому +1

      It would have made it easier anyways, better to enjoy every bit of the game than skip some just because "hard".

  • @Ether101
    @Ether101 7 місяців тому +1

    This is why I adore speed running. These monumental discoveries can be found YEARS later and it has the chance to redefine certain parts of runs

  • @cass6020
    @cass6020 Рік тому +5

    I love seeing things like this in contrast to the strategies back in 2019. Y'all are killin it

  • @ErrorRaffyline0
    @ErrorRaffyline0 Рік тому +4

    How the Hallownest has this not been discovered until now??

  • @c00ldude86
    @c00ldude86 Рік тому +5

    So your telling me I watch all your videos and I still don’t know all the secrets

  • @RubberCityHusla
    @RubberCityHusla Рік тому +1

    Fitting that I find out about this trick AFTER just now beating the path of pain

  • @Souul_
    @Souul_ Рік тому +6

    There is another use for it in white palace. You can skip the kingsmould also with it

  • @trolleramogus1183
    @trolleramogus1183 Рік тому +2

    And here’s i am, getting Embrace the Void after two years of having the game. Safe to say, I’m a bit behind.

  • @c0balt1
    @c0balt1 Рік тому +7

    Path of pain speedruns are gonna fly

  • @fighterpilotdragon02
    @fighterpilotdragon02 Рік тому +52

    Is this on any specific patch? It seems like one of those frame-perfect ones that are really difficult/inconsistent

    • @fireb0rn
      @fireb0rn  Рік тому +62

      Any patch and it's not super precise

  • @lawrencebole2000
    @lawrencebole2000 Рік тому +2

    That skip would have genuinely saved hours of my life. I spent so much time in that aria I recognised that tiny portion instantly.

  • @3nebula887
    @3nebula887 Рік тому +23

    Dude we actually need silksong now

  • @merry8647
    @merry8647 Рік тому

    I don't know what's more insane, the fact that it's possible, or the fact that runners only just found out

    • @BiIafy
      @BiIafy Рік тому

      I know, this seems like something that would've been found a long time ago

  • @stevenhagman5095
    @stevenhagman5095 10 місяців тому +1

    God damn it. This would have saved me an aneurysm going through that fucking white palace

  • @Gabriel.570
    @Gabriel.570 Рік тому +2

    The community found an extremely limited end game skip
    AND NO SILK SONG

  • @D.E.L.T.A
    @D.E.L.T.A Рік тому +27

    This is the reason we need Silksong..

    • @skyesyd221
      @skyesyd221 Рік тому

      Hmm

    • @thiagosantellan1062
      @thiagosantellan1062 Рік тому +1

      Way there is two niko's in this WHO IS THE REAL NIKO THE UP OR THE DELTA

    • @thiagosantellan1062
      @thiagosantellan1062 Рік тому +1

      Why there are 2 niko's who is the real
      Decide:
      DarkFox1997:cat
      Delta Symbol:sausage

    • @D.E.L.T.A
      @D.E.L.T.A Рік тому +4

      @@thiagosantellan1062 Both, both is good.

    • @ImpostorKat-ur4zl
      @ImpostorKat-ur4zl Рік тому +1

      At this rate we are gonna figure out how to beat hk with voice control before silksong comes out

  • @AmaryInkawult
    @AmaryInkawult 2 місяці тому +2

    Holy shit! But I'm still gonna do the entire Path of Pain. Make my husk bleeeeed 😈

  • @debuginagilator
    @debuginagilator Рік тому +7

    Wtf

  • @StormTrooperEX
    @StormTrooperEX Рік тому +2

    im surprised we found vengeful spirit pogoing before this

  • @user-hc2yv1ws1c
    @user-hc2yv1ws1c Рік тому +2

    What if team cherry finished silk song but want us to discover every bug firist

  • @DrDisasta
    @DrDisasta 8 місяців тому

    There is always that one person who says “oh you didn’t know about that?” 😂

  • @sriracha9125
    @sriracha9125 Рік тому +1

    I LOVE SHROGO

  • @Sapeidra
    @Sapeidra Рік тому +1

    next up: Hollow Knight players pogo on silksong trailers and Hornet dreams.

  • @thepacific2933
    @thepacific2933 2 місяці тому

    the "you can parry your own bullets" vibe

  • @silphv
    @silphv Рік тому +1

    Oh no. Skurry is going to have to kill birds or bees for 40 hours again (again)

  • @jonesfamily3989
    @jonesfamily3989 Рік тому +1

    some guy just beat all the bosses with chopsticks. lol

  • @ThatGuy-pu3tt
    @ThatGuy-pu3tt Рік тому +1

    Finally, after all these years... I was never crazy, my soul told me there had to be a howling wraiths skip

  • @DanaRJabbaR
    @DanaRJabbaR Рік тому +2

    See this what happens when the fans lost patient with silksong release date

  • @Kal431
    @Kal431 Рік тому +11

    Must add it’s easier with range charms and impossiblwe with wraiths unless u damage tank! Btw are u doing a video uploading a bit the path of pain situation? Leaderboards have changed quite a bit ;)

    • @Zaliant
      @Zaliant Рік тому

      omg kali?!?!?!

    • @Kal431
      @Kal431 Рік тому

      @@Zaliant OMG IS ZAL 😮😮😮😮😮 ❤❤

  • @krisdeluxe4417
    @krisdeluxe4417 Рік тому

    I love that as games age, they always reach a point where increasingly obscure tech is constantly being found

  • @TheGlowingBeansGuy
    @TheGlowingBeansGuy Рік тому

    Every Achivement Hunter rn: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!

  • @johnnygonzales2074
    @johnnygonzales2074 Місяць тому

    When i didn't know this, that one grub in hive took me 20 minutes pogoing the bees

  • @Adhamadous
    @Adhamadous 3 місяці тому

    bro's slowly ascending

  • @EuclidKnight
    @EuclidKnight Рік тому +1

    I think I found a possible new "trick" a few days ago in forgotten crossroads. in the first room that has Goams with the mask shard, you can pogo a background object to get up to the mask shard area. it's not even that difficult to do. don't know if this was known before, but I made a short video getting up there at the beginning of the game (so no charms)
    maybe it could save a little time on like a 112% run but idk

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 Рік тому

      Wait what? I knew you could use a vengefly to get up there early, but I didn't know there was any background objects making it possible. I doubt it makes any difference since players collect the mask shard much later anyway, but still.

  • @realbrickbread
    @realbrickbread Рік тому +1

    This remembered me of the gorgeous graphics in this game

  • @thmnwthnvwls
    @thmnwthnvwls 5 місяців тому

    I'm addicted to the hollow Knight randomizer. This could help significantly

  • @shivermaw5913
    @shivermaw5913 Рік тому

    With how much the community loves to try anything and everything I'm surprised this is only a recent discovery

  • @redfox8898
    @redfox8898 Рік тому +1

    If you have full soul and there is a place somewhere to Cdash stall to wait for the extra soul vessels or whatever to activate, you could propably get pretty far with this.
    I wonder if someone will ever find a way to go infinitely upwards.

  • @NaNNaNNaNNaNNaN
    @NaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Рік тому +3

    Does it only work with Abyss Shriek or maybe it works with Howling Wraiths too?

  • @thediamondcrossbow1
    @thediamondcrossbow1 Рік тому

    jarlyk: It's my time to shine!

  • @Aa..poxuyu
    @Aa..poxuyu Рік тому

    I'm glad that people find new things in hollow knight, even though I stopped playing this game

  • @A-Person1
    @A-Person1 7 місяців тому

    Team cherry is just seeing how far players will go while waiting for silksong at this point

  • @rediz5557
    @rediz5557 8 місяців тому

    I'm like truly godawful at hollow knight so despite a lot of time sunk into it I've never been able to progress very far and seeing videos of the later stages is kinda mindblowing, it literally looks like a whole different game 💀

  • @hellojellyfries
    @hellojellyfries 10 місяців тому

    now a new speedrunner will use this thing

  • @Eldersh1eld
    @Eldersh1eld 8 місяців тому

    MAN I wished I remembered this yesterday when I passed through the white palace

  • @liuser
    @liuser Рік тому

    can't wait to see this in the much longer categories!

  • @finn3264
    @finn3264 11 місяців тому

    that’s so exciting tho that we’re still discovering things

  • @tdav6539
    @tdav6539 Рік тому

    crazy that it’s been 6 years and we still finding new things

  • @vashanoid
    @vashanoid 7 місяців тому +1

    I now use this for randomized it’s so useful

  • @NoomStuff
    @NoomStuff Рік тому

    Crazy how this kind of stuff can still be found so long after release

  • @EvilerGlint1138
    @EvilerGlint1138 Рік тому

    I only recently got hollow knight and I love it some sections give some so much pain but I still love it

  • @nahlies2382
    @nahlies2382 6 місяців тому

    After we find every speedrunning trico they'll add them as mechanics. They're just waiting to finish silk song until they've added them all

  • @catalinaledermann
    @catalinaledermann Рік тому +1

    oh my god!!! that’s awesome, right in front of our eyes

  • @g1itch561
    @g1itch561 Рік тому

    Silksong will not release until the community has collectively discovered everything everything there is to know about this game.

  • @DIRTkat_ofc
    @DIRTkat_ofc Рік тому

    "hollow night fans discover something they're calling the "twisted aOob grubskip baldurr shell bomb pogo cancel" and it saves a whole 0.3 seconds on getting to greenpath"

  • @Kazachski-mj7cc
    @Kazachski-mj7cc 7 місяців тому

    This is actually insane, such huge discovery and no one has found it for 6 years!

  • @InquirerAshen
    @InquirerAshen 6 місяців тому

    I wish I saw this 24 hours earlier... making the trek through the white palace with no guide was brutal

    • @vladi3862
      @vladi3862 3 місяці тому

      you have 4 frames to pull off a shriek pogo, it's harder than doing the white palace casually

  • @jennijang7805
    @jennijang7805 Рік тому +1

    i wish i had seen this before navigating the white palace 😂

  • @KurasakiBleachigo1
    @KurasakiBleachigo1 Рік тому

    Are you actually kidding me. This is game-changing

  • @Dockboy-ie4yu
    @Dockboy-ie4yu Рік тому +3

    Say what now

  • @falnica
    @falnica Рік тому

    This will be much more impactful than it seems

  • @Jellylamps
    @Jellylamps 4 місяці тому

    I'm kinda baffled we didn't find this sooner

  • @PerpetualNoob
    @PerpetualNoob Рік тому

    Holy cow that is huge!

  • @CoeGr
    @CoeGr 3 місяці тому

    This community needs a song made for them, maybe written in silk?

  • @paulamarina04
    @paulamarina04 9 місяців тому

    this also makes the game beatable without using mantis claw
    we can chain 8 shriek pogos to get up to lurien without downpatching (using 3 soul vessels + spell twister), and then we can chain 2 or 3 to get up to monomon in a humanly-doable way. all other wallclings had already been solved, though shriek pogos trivialize a bunch of them
    in fact, the max% possible clawless is 109%, 2% of which is mantis claw itself. the other is white palace, which has a vertical corridor that needs more than 8 shriek pogos in a row, which isnt possible

  • @MapleclawGD
    @MapleclawGD Рік тому

    Spell twister gonna go crazy

  • @VoidSpirals
    @VoidSpirals Рік тому +1

    King soul finally being useful:

    • @hatyyy
      @hatyyy 10 місяців тому

      not really

  • @tris080
    @tris080 Рік тому

    The moment i found this is minutes after finishing White Palace

  • @mikopupsel
    @mikopupsel Рік тому

    Hey, that Alex speed runner you shouted out like a year ago used this tech to improve his path of pain speed run

  • @boomrickpatdead2758
    @boomrickpatdead2758 6 місяців тому

    I just started playing hollow knight but good to know something like this if i ever create a nee save profile

  • @Zoituq
    @Zoituq 5 місяців тому

    We are about to learn how to pogo ourselves

  • @YoyoIG
    @YoyoIG Рік тому

    Abyss shriek is my favorite ability its just so cool

  • @HappyDemonXI
    @HappyDemonXI Рік тому +1

    I wasted 2 hours of my life trying to get the half charm fragment.. and you could've told me.. YOU CAN SKIP THAT PART?!

  • @elliottcrain3097
    @elliottcrain3097 5 місяців тому +1

    Dear diary
    It’s yet another day without Silksong.
    The insanity has spread like infection.
    Community’s mental health starts to get more questionable as Silksong is still missing.
    Only the pure vessel ,Silksong, can contain this madness and even that is not limitless.
    May pale king have mercy on us.

  • @haritsadityo4467
    @haritsadityo4467 Рік тому

    One thing that we surely realized that we are not gonna get that silksong soon

  • @Imslandar
    @Imslandar 11 місяців тому

    Maybe using spell twister and king soul, combined with a double jump and a dash could pro-long the air-time

  • @illkissyourightnow
    @illkissyourightnow Рік тому

    woah! i LOVE the band “New Hollow” the band!
    Czech ‘em Outt!!

  • @amokami7563
    @amokami7563 Рік тому

    I cant believe stall ball was found before this