@@RandomGaminginHD It's widely variable depending on where you are. Here in the USA, the 12100f is $100, 13100f is $120 & 14100f $130 and as you mention the best budget Intel CPU, a 12400f for $135.
Can't believe my i5-11400H is still faster than a 14100F while using almost a third of the wattage. I understand there's such a thing as a CPU for basic needs but come on, for the price I'd expect more.
I can't express how disappointed I am that 14100 STILL does not use Raptor Cove cores. That is, the P cores in i7 and i9 13th and 14th gen CPUs, which have 2 MB of L2 cache each. 12th gen CPUs and 13100 and now 14100 too STILL have the 1.25 MB L2 cache one. Dang it Intel!
Every tech company didn't care about budget gaming anymore Whatever Intel,AMD or Nvidia.. Desktop Ryzen 3 is still stuck in zen 2 which is worse than 12th gen i3
Thanks, didn't know they still use Alder Lake for the 13 and 14 gen i3 CPUs, now it makes sense why they are not faster at all, so it's not just a refresh of a refresh like 14gen but refresh of a refresh of a refresh, that is indeed very disappointing.
because they are basically binning lower tier cpus for this, the 14900k tier dies aren't going to fail far enough down the stack to only have 4 cores left.
using i3 12100f for a year now, paired with rtx 2060 super i can play 1080p high settings 60+ Fps any latest aaa game. perfect Budget combo & doesn't bottleneck.
The 14100 is literally just a 12100 with higher clocks. Same architecture, same everything. Just consumes slightly more power which is the only reason it performs a bit better. What a scam. They know people will buy it regardless.
Fun thing about the LGA 1700 stock coolers-the i9 chips come with a taller, thicker, screw-in ARGB one-my coworker gave me his when he bought his 13900F. It’s one of the most hilarious inclusions considering the cooling requirements of those i9 chips.
@@macedonianlad There's 3 kinds of stock coolers for Intel's current chips. The RS1, RM1, and RH1. RS1 is paired with G6900 Celerons and G7400 Pentiums. The RM1 is paired with most chips up to the non-K 12700/13700/14700 chips. The RH1 is with non-K 12900/13900/14900.
I was rockin 12100F + RX6600 for last two years. With recent price drops, decided to change the CPU with 12600KF. 13th and 14th gen are more or less a refresh of 12th gen.
@@AmirDarkOne How are 12600kf and 13600kf similar in price? In Europe 12600kf is 166 Euro and 13600kf is 273. The situation is the same in the US - more than 100 USD difference between both CPUs.
They realized that the best selling CPUs are Ryzen 5 and 7 and they can earn more money by making like they did with the 7000 series - 7600X, 7600 and 7500F, different prices, almost equal performance. The same cannot be said for the Ryzen 3. They must pay TSMC to make chips for them and yet people still would go for R5 and 7 rather than R3. Intel has their own fabrication process so they don't mind making i3 still to this date
Not only that, AMD also killed HEDT/budget workstations. If you want a motherboard with more than 2 pcie slots or 4 memory slots, you'll have to pay 1000$+. And that's previous gen stuff. Current gen Threadripper pro is several thousands. AMD completely ruined the market. The cheapest way to have that is buying old X99 or X299 intel boards LOL.
this reminds me of that time i told a youtuber who was praising the i3 13100 over the i5 12400 i gave a whole 12 lines of arguments where i prouved that the 4 cores i3 13100 was worst and weaker in every way compared to the i5 12400 he skiped all that and started saying that the i3 14100 will out performe both ....he roasted me so hard on being an ignorant for not believing his lies i swear if i find his video im gonna show him how having 1.25mb l2 cache per core feels like inside of his case (if u know what i meaan cuz youtube won't allow me to use the word a$$)
Thanks for testing bfv, even though its an older title it can still chew up a budget CPU and its a good indication of performance vs slightly older quad cores that choke hard
I'm using a 12100F since 2022 ~late february so pretty much 2+ years now and its been a solid experience for me/for my use case. 'I do not play competitive games at all' Paired with a RTX 3060 Ti and a 2560x1080 75Hz monitor and it still plays everything I'm playing w/o much if any issues. 'currently playing Forbidden West and its all good/smooth with tweaked mix of high-medium shadows and rest max settings+DLSS Quality' I might upgrade to a second hand 13400F soon-ish but I'm not in a hurry either.
Here i3 14100 is 136$ and ryzen 5600 is 126$ the other cheaper option for intel are 10100 and 12100 but they're also 90 and 120 dollars.. I am planning on getting new pc so any advice would be helpful current plan : ryzen 5600 , gigabyte b550m ds3h , 8gb ram (will get one more 8gb later) , rx580 8gb (from my previous system) , psu Corsair 550cx
im sorry but in todays day and age 4 cores dont have a place anymore unless they are really efficient for small from factor but id still go for 6 or 8 cores with threads
13600k was the biggest jump in performance for the same tier of cpu across intel's 12 / 13 / 14 lineup, matching the 12900k in gaming perf everything else stayed on the same level
All they had to do was add 4-8 e-cores to it, literally just that, keep the same everything but add those cores Quadcores for DIY are dead unless you buy used. Hexacores new and used octacores are just that cheap
I hope next 15th Gen Intel starts making Core i3-15200K 6C/12T (no E cores) Core i3-15300K 12C/18T (8C/8T E cores) Core i5-15500K 8C/16T (no E cores) Core i5-15600K 16C/24T (8C/8T E Cores) Core i7-15700K 10C/20T (no E cores) Core i7-15800K 20C/30T (10C/10T E cores) Core i9-15900K 12C/24T (no E cores) Core i9-15950K 24C/36T (12C/12T E cores)
The only deal breaker for me is the cooler mounting mechanism, it was a terrible idea back in 2012. Good to see the lower end offerings still hold up well, cooler not withstanding.
Nope. AMD is still behind an Intel if you really need a 1C power. His X3D cache is only good for gaming using much higher tier cpu with 8 cores atleast. Maybe somewhere in the future will outperform intel in a single core performance but not now... BUT those 8 core AMD cpus are really cheap nowadays and cheaper than some 6 core i5 or i7 in core count/ price ratio, AMD W / INTEL F.
@@samohraje2433 half the cores of a defective 8core variant could provide higher clocks. It would make up for it. 4c X3D would still be viable in any case
@@mannduro you can still buy an 8core cpu, disable 4 cores with HyperThreading enabled and woala, 4c 8t cpu with higher clocks if you manually overclock it. I have Z77 chipset mobo with ivy bridge cpu i7 3770K. With only 2 cores enabled i'm able to achieve 5GHz stable clocks 48h on Prime95 With 4 cores 4.7 stable ( also with reasonable temps because i'm using air only cooler, no money for AIO water ). This idea was for the minecraft server where you need 1c power. It runs smoother on 2 cores with 5GHz overclock. You can still push all cores to 5GHz but with increased voltage ( in my opinion too much and not worth of doing that, considering that you seriously shorting this cpu's life span even tho you have 70c max ). i3 14th gen is the best of the best, providing strong single core performance and 4c performace and 8 threads of top of that as well for the extra UMPF if i can say that way. Is cheap, mobos are also very cheap and with a dedicated gpu u dont have to buy expensive DDR5 memory. If you planning to use iGPU, a little expensive DDR5 ram is worth to buy
If you're getting an 4 core CPU like this then you'll most likely see higher FPS with a comparable AMD card because the driver overhead is quite a bit less.
G'day Random, Yeah I agree if you are buying at this level getting the 12100F is the best option as without the RT Overlay there is no way you would notice the measly difference when gaming.
12400F should be faster. I got it on sale for the cheapest price I’ve ever seen at 1399kr after tax or 105USD before tax if converted. Cheaper than the 14100F and more cores.
I'm curious about the performance of this compared to i5 12400f. I cant find a proper benchmark for this 14th gen i3. Are they getting close now? Would be nice to compare them and see how close the current entry level i3 gets close to previous gens entry level i5's
I remember seeing a video where the 12th or 13th gen i3 was mopping a i7 9700k. I was honestly surprised considering the 9700k is an 8 core that's pretty modern, they're good little gaming chips that can handle a pretty decent GPU depending on the price you pay.
It's a strange place to be at entry level in 2024. The 14100F is $155 Cad. The 14100 is $200 Cad. A 5600G is $180 Cad. I don't know if AMD abandoned Ryzen 3 or if they simply turned Ryzen 5 in to the new Ryzen 3. I highly doubt we will see a Ryzen 3 8300G or 8100G from AMD so a tip of the hat to Intel for at least keeping the product stack alive if in name only. If an 8300G or 8100G were to be a thing it would be in the $120 Cad or lower price group. Much like on the GPU side none of the 3, Intel, nVidia or AMD seem capable or inclined to compete with used at those price levels though.
The 12300 and 14100f are the same speed and price. About $120 on Amazon. The i3 12100f can be had on Amazon for $94 right now. They are all within margin of each other so you may be right, the 12100f might just still be the best bang for buck right now. I am disappointed in Intel as I had heard that the i3 14100 was going to come with 2-4 E-Cores and as you can see, it does not.
it's sad to see that Intel axed the K SKU i3 CPUs when they started becoming interesting (like the 10100 or 12100). i think an i3 10350K or 12350K with an unlock B series board would give Ryzen a run for its money for tinkerers. missed oppourtunity!
I'd be intersted if this 14th gen i3 overclocks aswell as the 12th ones did on bclk motherboards. I remember some people getting upwards of 25-30% performance increase. The issue was back then those motherboards were in the 250- 300£ range. Asrock actually has a b760 riptide ddr5 board for 110£, which would actually still keep the budget element of this chip. Would be interested to see how far you could bclk overclock with this budget OC board.
The problem with Intel has always been the cost of the boards, they switch sockets too often. My AMD system went from a 1200 to 3600 to 5700x all on the same board, I would have had to buy 3 boards to do the same with Intel.
My 10700kf cpu died and I went with a budget build with the 12100f with a new motherboard and using all my existing components. Comparing 12th and 14th gen was exactly what I was looking for to see if I made a good decision and seems like I did due to barely any fps differences. Great video
Why is there no increase in cores in i3,s. i5 got a bump in cores, i3 could have at least 6 cores, in my opinion. because the jump from i3 to i5 is more in the latest generations (13 & 14)
why would you buy this over a 12400F? they cost more or less the same not to mention you can pair the 12400F with a cheaper B660 motherboard to save some money
You really should be running Fortnite in dx12 not dx11. dx11 has horrible shader compilation stutter and causes those low 1% figures. dx12 has mostly fixed it in Fortnite and is a lot more consistent
I think an i3 with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores would be awesome, especially if it was overclockable and sold for $200 or less. That's what my dream budget CPU looks like.
*Based on the RTX 4060 toRTX 4070 super results we can def say the i3 14100 is a VERY strong cpu as you gained 15-25% more performance with that upgrade that is huge to think of to be honest*
I would have chosen the i3-14100 version for the built in graphics, so more useful in Davinci Resolve, if I were to go with an i3 that is. Would make for a nice pairing with that GTX1050ti I have laying around. Hmmm.......
Single threaded score is quite impressive. The multi-threaded performance is like that of a Ryzen 6 core from a couple of generations ago. This is an acceptable CPU for an entry level gaming rig but that's about it. Core count is starting to matter more in AAA gaming and some benchmarks I saw just today suggest that even a midrange GPU really should have an 8 core CPU. I would likely see another 5-15fps in some more recent titles with my 3060 if I had a 5700X instead of a 5600X. Also, cache is king. A 5800X3D would give substantially better framerates with my 3060. The fact the bottom tier intel CPU has had the same amount of cache for the past 3 generations is pretty sad and says that they've just given up on the quad core at this point. Even AMD has seemingly thrown in the towel on quad cores with the launch of the Ryzen 3 5100 and 5300G, with just 8MB L3 cache.
i was on a 3900x for about a year and a half time to leave am4 i grabbed a b660 and an 12100 for now, updated my bios gonna snag a 14500 and have 14th gen intel but even this 12100 is running games as good as the 3900x
i did opposite...go the most unusual route and chosed the most rare i3 on lga1700 and winner was 13100T directly from Intel🤩fully unlocked UHD770 btw 14100(X) have newer memory controller so perf. on DDR5 can be higher or should be but i want to snap all of them and thest them to the limits even models with iGPU i don´t really like cpus without that but i accidentally ended with one😮💨13400 box but in it was F sku🤔and about 12400 i rather say go for 13400 or F or whatever even with ddr4 if price is not so far off for you because 10cores are 10 cores so you can do some work or installation without any stutters while in game
I think it would be a really great CPU if the price was just a bit lower. Right now I can get a ryzen 5 5600 for €129 while the 14100F is €124. Plus AM4 motherboards are a bit cheaper too. Edit: the 12400F is also only €130
The PS5 and the Xbox Sasuke X have 8 core zen2 CPUs that are similar to R7 3700x but gimped and thermal throttled and at around the performance level of an R5 3600. PS5 Pro will have the same 8 core cpu but better cooling solution and it will be higher clocked. So that R5 3600 is the bottom line for me. Even if some quad core was to be released at $50 that outperforms the R7 5800x3D I will not be buying a quad core cpu in current year.
power consumption is just like 7800x3d but a lot worse performance, goes to show how much better ryzens are(2x or more). also this is the exact same as 12100f just a little less clock 3 generations same silicon what a joke intel also i think its best to get 12100/f and BCLK overclock to 5+ ghz you get better then 14100
I view the 12/13/14100 line of 4 core processors as a bridge chip: something to start off with when money is tight on a new rig but not something to stick with. There is no way I'd spend extra for the minimal gains the 14 gen part offers over the 12th gen when in all likelihood I'd be replacing it shortly.
You must consider that there are poor countries in the world and being able to afford something like an i3 12100 is a big compromise, theres still a lot of people using Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Haswell in those places. Other than that, I agree with you.
in Jakarta: 12100F is about £65, 13100F is £90, 14100F is £100. Yup, pay 50% more from 12th to 14th gen for 10% better .1% fps. For £100, the i5-12400F is the better choice
Intel will almost surely scrap the upgrade path after the next generation and they have previously with their tick-tock model. Same CPU socket but incompatible chipsets etc so you have to buy a new motherboard for a modest improvement. I feel safer going with AM5 because hopefully AMD will keep the upgrade path open like they have with AM4.
Why would you test these games at ultra settings in a CPU comparison? In my understanding these settings affect mainly the GPU, so having the settings at max would only risk a GPU bottleneck (especially in games like kingdom come deliverance) therefore it wouldn't be an accurate CPU comparison...
reminder that AM4 isnt quite dead yet and an R5 5600 or 5600X with 6 cores costs as much or even less than these i3s with 4 cores. hell, you can even get the 8-core 5700X for like 30 bucks more. unless you're buying the i3 as a stopgap until you can afford a new i7 or something like that, i guess, AM4 remains an excellent choice for the gamer on a budget
*We need a 4P cores+2E core/6 threads i3 next gen so it is a 6 cores+6 threads entry level cpu as this is a compromise cause clearly intel does not want a 6 core 12 threaded entry level i3* 😢
Much better to get an i5-12400F unless you won't be playing modern games. Even if most newer games are still playable on quad-core the experience will be smoother and more consistent on a 6-core especially if you have other things running in the background like Discord or your web browser.
People shouldn't buy a quad-core for gaming in this day an age. The CPU usage is pegged at 100% in some CPU intensive games and when a small update or an antivirus scan starts running in the background, you start getting stutters. Get at least an i5 if you want smooth gameplay and longevity.
One piece of advice peoole should keeo in mind is that if you are planning on buying a new AM4 rig, you should really look at intel because your next platform upgrade will require a mobo change regardless. Otherwise if you can afford AM5, get it.
this seems like another pointless i3 re-release. the 13100f in my country is 40% more expensive than 12100f
Yeah the 12100f is the way to go
Same is on the i5 14400f.
@@RandomGaminginHD It's widely variable depending on where you are. Here in the USA, the 12100f is $100, 13100f is $120 & 14100f $130 and as you mention the best budget Intel CPU, a 12400f for $135.
@@uG0TRobbed H610 + 12400F DDR4 best budget PC
Can't believe my i5-11400H is still faster than a 14100F while using almost a third of the wattage. I understand there's such a thing as a CPU for basic needs but come on, for the price I'd expect more.
I can't express how disappointed I am that 14100 STILL does not use Raptor Cove cores. That is, the P cores in i7 and i9 13th and 14th gen CPUs, which have 2 MB of L2 cache each. 12th gen CPUs and 13100 and now 14100 too STILL have the 1.25 MB L2 cache one. Dang it Intel!
Every tech company didn't care about budget gaming anymore
Whatever Intel,AMD or Nvidia..
Desktop Ryzen 3 is still stuck in zen 2 which is worse than 12th gen i3
Thanks, didn't know they still use Alder Lake for the 13 and 14 gen i3 CPUs, now it makes sense why they are not faster at all, so it's not just a refresh of a refresh like 14gen but refresh of a refresh of a refresh, that is indeed very disappointing.
basically everything below the 13600k is rebranded 12th gen. I suspect the same is true for 14th gen.
I clicked this video hoping that this wasn't still Golden Cove, but here we are
because they are basically binning lower tier cpus for this, the 14900k tier dies aren't going to fail far enough down the stack to only have 4 cores left.
What a pleasant surprise at the end to get a cpu scaling bonus. I honestly did not see that coming. A+ for the extra effort sir. Top notch as always.
I don't think the 200 extra Megaherz are worth the €120,- too upgrade from my I3-12100f.
Oh definitely not
why would you upgrade to another i3 again lol
@@mikkodoria4778well if it performs better then last generation then yes otherwise no.
thats like people with a 14900k upgrading to a 14900KS
@@greatexpectation6456they would be better off dropping a 12400 into their current build
using i3 12100f for a year now, paired with rtx 2060 super
i can play 1080p high settings 60+ Fps any latest aaa game.
perfect Budget combo & doesn't bottleneck.
The 14100 is literally just a 12100 with higher clocks. Same architecture, same everything. Just consumes slightly more power which is the only reason it performs a bit better. What a scam. They know people will buy it regardless.
intel couldn't make another good i3 like the 12100f
They just need to add 2 more p cores and sell it at 100-120$, that would dominate the new entry level markt
The 12400f i5 is an amazing chip for £109
6 P cores or a 4 + 4 layout would've been interesting, but we instead get another Alder Lake refresh with a clock speed bump.
it literally is better than the 12001f, once the price comes down it will be better than the 12100
@XxGorillaGodxX The die this is based on is 6+0 (ADL-6P). They could've done the 6P option. Maybe a 14300 could take that spot, but sadly it won't.
Fun thing about the LGA 1700 stock coolers-the i9 chips come with a taller, thicker, screw-in ARGB one-my coworker gave me his when he bought his 13900F. It’s one of the most hilarious inclusions considering the cooling requirements of those i9 chips.
Haha nice I’ll have to try and find one
Is it Cooler Master OEM?
@@fajaradi1223most likely
its included in all non k processors i think
@@macedonianlad There's 3 kinds of stock coolers for Intel's current chips. The RS1, RM1, and RH1. RS1 is paired with G6900 Celerons and G7400 Pentiums. The RM1 is paired with most chips up to the non-K 12700/13700/14700 chips. The RH1 is with non-K 12900/13900/14900.
I was rockin 12100F + RX6600 for last two years. With recent price drops, decided to change the CPU with 12600KF. 13th and 14th gen are more or less a refresh of 12th gen.
go with 13600kf ,it is 20% stronger then 12600 but price is similar
@@AmirDarkOne It depends which motherboard he is using..
@@AmirDarkOne How are 12600kf and 13600kf similar in price? In Europe 12600kf is 166 Euro and 13600kf is 273. The situation is the same in the US - more than 100 USD difference between both CPUs.
I love the RX 6600, best thing I have ever spent my money on.
for gaming 13600k>12900k so 13th gen i5 k cpus are great for gaming :) GG
I hate that amd stopped caring about the ryzen 3 line after the amazing 3100/3300x. Not everyone can afford/needs a 6 core and up cpu.
Would be cool to see more quad cores from AMD too :)
There is a Ryzen 3 4100, and seen online that their might be a Ryzen 5 5100 soon
They realized that the best selling CPUs are Ryzen 5 and 7 and they can earn more money by making like they did with the 7000 series - 7600X, 7600 and 7500F, different prices, almost equal performance. The same cannot be said for the Ryzen 3. They must pay TSMC to make chips for them and yet people still would go for R5 and 7 rather than R3. Intel has their own fabrication process so they don't mind making i3 still to this date
@@RandomGaminginHD i do hope so too. I appreciate intel still modernizing the i3 line
Not only that, AMD also killed HEDT/budget workstations. If you want a motherboard with more than 2 pcie slots or 4 memory slots, you'll have to pay 1000$+. And that's previous gen stuff. Current gen Threadripper pro is several thousands. AMD completely ruined the market. The cheapest way to have that is buying old X99 or X299 intel boards LOL.
Man, watching Starfield and Cyberpunk back to back is like watching a game from PS3 era vs a game from PS5 era.
Ikr lol
Apparently humans hate decorations in Starfield or something. Not a hint of color anywhere.
and the funny thing is cyberpunk is a crossgen game and starfield isnt.
Looking for that meme that shows the 12100f and 14100f on a board and the woman saying "it's the same chip"...
It is not the same. They have different names. Duh.
If they made it 6 cores I would be interested,but staying with my 12100f for now.
this reminds me of that time i told a youtuber who was praising the i3 13100 over the i5 12400 i gave a whole 12 lines of arguments where i prouved that the 4 cores i3 13100 was worst and weaker in every way compared to the i5 12400 he skiped all that and started saying that the i3 14100 will out performe both ....he roasted me so hard on being an ignorant for not believing his lies i swear if i find his video im gonna show him how having 1.25mb l2 cache per core feels like inside of his case (if u know what i meaan cuz youtube won't allow me to use the word a$$)
Thanks for testing bfv, even though its an older title it can still chew up a budget CPU and its a good indication of performance vs slightly older quad cores that choke hard
Yeah it’s pretty cpu intensive and still really popular so it’s always good to try it out
I'm using a 12100F since 2022 ~late february so pretty much 2+ years now and its been a solid experience for me/for my use case. 'I do not play competitive games at all'
Paired with a RTX 3060 Ti and a 2560x1080 75Hz monitor and it still plays everything I'm playing w/o much if any issues. 'currently playing Forbidden West and its all good/smooth with tweaked mix of high-medium shadows and rest max settings+DLSS Quality'
I might upgrade to a second hand 13400F soon-ish but I'm not in a hurry either.
The i3-10100 and the Ryzen 5 4500 are good new options for the even lower budget. They're still very much usable imo.
4500 is more interesting due to better RAM support and 6 power efficient cores. Not to mention the undervolting
L3 on 4500? Maybe Ryzen 3600 used or new on a good deal should be better imo
@@valentin31865600 stomps any i3 while being cheaper. idk what kind of scrap you have in your pc when you say stuff like that
@@divinehatred6021explain what I said, please
@@divinehatred6021 explain what I said, please?
Here i3 14100 is 136$
and ryzen 5600 is 126$
the other cheaper option for intel are 10100 and 12100 but they're also 90 and 120 dollars..
I am planning on getting new pc so any advice would be helpful
current plan : ryzen 5600 , gigabyte b550m ds3h , 8gb ram (will get one more 8gb later) , rx580 8gb (from my previous system) , psu Corsair 550cx
12100f + motherboard with bclk oc
A budget gamers dream combo. I’m looking for an oc capable board now
the b760m pg riptide ddr5 is iirc capable of BCLK oc, pretty good board on a budget@@RandomGaminginHD
im sorry but in todays day and age 4 cores dont have a place anymore unless they are really efficient for small from factor but id still go for 6 or 8 cores with threads
13600k was the biggest jump in performance for the same tier of cpu across intel's 12 / 13 / 14 lineup, matching the 12900k in gaming perf
everything else stayed on the same level
Yeah it’s a great cpu :)
I would suggest including the clock speed in your comparison between the 2 cpus. As always, love your reviews!
Noted, thanks!
@@RandomGaminginHDhey which cpu to buy the i3 14100 is 28 usd more than the i3 12100 which to buy
All they had to do was add 4-8 e-cores to it, literally just that, keep the same everything but add those cores
Quadcores for DIY are dead unless you buy used. Hexacores new and used octacores are just that cheap
I hope next 15th Gen Intel starts making
Core i3-15200K 6C/12T (no E cores)
Core i3-15300K 12C/18T (8C/8T E cores)
Core i5-15500K 8C/16T (no E cores)
Core i5-15600K 16C/24T (8C/8T E Cores)
Core i7-15700K 10C/20T (no E cores)
Core i7-15800K 20C/30T (10C/10T E cores)
Core i9-15900K 12C/24T (no E cores)
Core i9-15950K 24C/36T (12C/12T E cores)
AMD RX 6600 or RTX 3050 Enough for this cpu.Most times cpu bottlenecking.
The only deal breaker for me is the cooler mounting mechanism, it was a terrible idea back in 2012.
Good to see the lower end offerings still hold up well, cooler not withstanding.
IMO a 6 core CPU is the bare minimum for gaming when building a new system.
The Moment AMD is rebinning it's X3D cache variants down to 4c it's over for Intel's quad Core dominance
Now that would be cool to see
@@RandomGaminginHD I am still on my BROADWELL CPU . Something like this would be Great. After 10 years of it. I'm ready to cheapout else where 😁
Nope. AMD is still behind an Intel if you really need a 1C power. His X3D cache is only good for gaming using much higher tier cpu with 8 cores atleast. Maybe somewhere in the future will outperform intel in a single core performance but not now... BUT those 8 core AMD cpus are really cheap nowadays and cheaper than some 6 core i5 or i7 in core count/ price ratio, AMD W / INTEL F.
@@samohraje2433 half the cores of a defective 8core variant could provide higher clocks. It would make up for it. 4c X3D would still be viable in any case
@@mannduro you can still buy an 8core cpu, disable 4 cores with HyperThreading enabled and woala, 4c 8t cpu with higher clocks if you manually overclock it. I have Z77 chipset mobo with ivy bridge cpu i7 3770K. With only 2 cores enabled i'm able to achieve 5GHz stable clocks 48h on Prime95 With 4 cores 4.7 stable ( also with reasonable temps because i'm using air only cooler, no money for AIO water ). This idea was for the minecraft server where you need 1c power. It runs smoother on 2 cores with 5GHz overclock. You can still push all cores to 5GHz but with increased voltage ( in my opinion too much and not worth of doing that, considering that you seriously shorting this cpu's life span even tho you have 70c max ). i3 14th gen is the best of the best, providing strong single core performance and 4c performace and 8 threads of top of that as well for the extra UMPF if i can say that way. Is cheap, mobos are also very cheap and with a dedicated gpu u dont have to buy expensive DDR5 memory. If you planning to use iGPU, a little expensive DDR5 ram is worth to buy
Missed opportunity to not give it at least 2 e-cores, otherwise it's just another i3-12100.
i5 12400f is the same price, i wouldn't build even a youtube/media box with quadcore
If you're getting an 4 core CPU like this then you'll most likely see higher FPS with a comparable AMD card because the driver overhead is quite a bit less.
G'day Random,
Yeah I agree if you are buying at this level getting the 12100F is the best option as without the RT Overlay there is no way you would notice the measly difference when gaming.
The i5 12400f is £5 cheaper in the amazon sale and only a few pounds more normally. Are those extra cores worth getting? My opinion is yes
Definitely at that price
12400f vs 14100f would also be a nice comparison, as they cost the same :D
12400F should be faster. I got it on sale for the cheapest price I’ve ever seen at 1399kr after tax or 105USD before tax if converted. Cheaper than the 14100F and more cores.
Let’s talk about the i5-12600kf is $149 usually
This is down to $89.99 in USA!
I'm curious about the performance of this compared to i5 12400f. I cant find a proper benchmark for this 14th gen i3. Are they getting close now? Would be nice to compare them and see how close the current entry level i3 gets close to previous gens entry level i5's
I remember seeing a video where the 12th or 13th gen i3 was mopping a i7 9700k. I was honestly surprised considering the 9700k is an 8 core that's pretty modern, they're good little gaming chips that can handle a pretty decent GPU depending on the price you pay.
Nice pfp
How perceptive are you to doing a comparison between gaming on the newer Intel chips with DDR4 and DDR5?
I just upgraded to a z790 and 14900K, So im using this old cpu for my diy nas!
So Kingdom Come Deliverance's Switch port is out now and considering what its like on this i3, have you tried said port to see what its like?
I haven’t yet but I want to
the existence of the ryzen 5 5600/x completely invalidates all procesors under around 150€ in my opinion
And the lack pf an upgrade path for the 12100/12400 doesn't help.
actually hoped they would have gone 6 core already with the I3 , but yeah , intel staying intel
And they don't even manufacture any quad core cpu dies, these are all disabled hex core i5 12500 CPUs.
It's a strange place to be at entry level in 2024. The 14100F is $155 Cad. The 14100 is $200 Cad. A 5600G is $180 Cad. I don't know if AMD abandoned Ryzen 3 or if they simply turned Ryzen 5 in to the new Ryzen 3. I highly doubt we will see a Ryzen 3 8300G or 8100G from AMD so a tip of the hat to Intel for at least keeping the product stack alive if in name only. If an 8300G or 8100G were to be a thing it would be in the $120 Cad or lower price group. Much like on the GPU side none of the 3, Intel, nVidia or AMD seem capable or inclined to compete with used at those price levels though.
The 12300 and 14100f are the same speed and price. About $120 on Amazon. The i3 12100f can be had on Amazon for $94 right now. They are all within margin of each other so you may be right, the 12100f might just still be the best bang for buck right now. I am disappointed in Intel as I had heard that the i3 14100 was going to come with 2-4 E-Cores and as you can see, it does not.
it uses more power than the 7800x3D
nice video :D do u have spare r5 5500 to test it against 14100f? r5 5500 is only 87 pounds :O
it's sad to see that Intel axed the K SKU i3 CPUs when they started becoming interesting (like the 10100 or 12100). i think an i3 10350K or 12350K with an unlock B series board would give Ryzen a run for its money for tinkerers. missed oppourtunity!
I'd be intersted if this 14th gen i3 overclocks aswell as the 12th ones did on bclk motherboards. I remember some people getting upwards of 25-30% performance increase. The issue was back then those motherboards were in the 250- 300£ range. Asrock actually has a b760 riptide ddr5 board for 110£, which would actually still keep the budget element of this chip. Would be interested to see how far you could bclk overclock with this budget OC board.
The problem with Intel has always been the cost of the boards, they switch sockets too often. My AMD system went from a 1200 to 3600 to 5700x all on the same board, I would have had to buy 3 boards to do the same with Intel.
My 10700kf cpu died and I went with a budget build with the 12100f with a new motherboard and using all my existing components. Comparing 12th and 14th gen was exactly what I was looking for to see if I made a good decision and seems like I did due to barely any fps differences. Great video
How did it die?
@@vasoconvictAMD killed it 😂
@@vasoconvict aio started making strange noises for about a week then overheated the cpu.
Why is there no increase in cores in i3,s. i5 got a bump in cores, i3 could have at least 6 cores, in my opinion. because the jump from i3 to i5 is more in the latest generations (13 & 14)
Because Intel wants to upsell people to the i5 and i7.
@@lharsay that much i can understand, but then why even make i3 because most people won't even but i3, 13-14gen, and go for i5 like 12400 or 11600
Thanks for the video been thinking about buying one for two months now!
Hope this helps with your decision :)
why would you buy this over a 12400F? they cost more or less the same not to mention you can pair the 12400F with a cheaper B660 motherboard to save some money
You really should be running Fortnite in dx12 not dx11. dx11 has horrible shader compilation stutter and causes those low 1% figures. dx12 has mostly fixed it in Fortnite and is a lot more consistent
Would this be good for Photoshop Editing ? Running 64gb DDR5 Ram and a GALAX 3060 Ti ?
Jeez, Starfield is such a mess. Maxing out that CPU and crippling the 4070 Super, looking like that. The transition to Cyberpunk is eye-opening.
if youre on that much of a budget you might aswell get a 13100f, its basically the same cpu
Yeah or 12100f
You commented a minute after this was uploaded, which tells me you didn't watch the video😂
@@pocapoco2546 it was ana educated guess cuz the whole lineup is just refreshes, and even the 12100 is a good alternative lol
@@afliehelicopter Yeah, but saying something that's already in the video, it's kind of a waste.
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I think an i3 with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores would be awesome, especially if it was overclockable and sold for $200 or less. That's what my dream budget CPU looks like.
*Based on the RTX 4060 toRTX 4070 super results we can def say the i3 14100 is a VERY strong cpu as you gained 15-25% more performance with that upgrade that is huge to think of to be honest*
Funny, I've been seeing used 12100F for under 70€, but I could buy a brand 14100F for twice that and 1% improvement, nice
I know 4c4t isn't good nowadays
but seems like Fortnite stutters with newest 4c8t CPU is crazy things LOL
I would have chosen the i3-14100 version for the built in graphics, so more useful in Davinci Resolve, if I were to go with an i3 that is. Would make for a nice pairing with that GTX1050ti I have laying around. Hmmm.......
Single threaded score is quite impressive. The multi-threaded performance is like that of a Ryzen 6 core from a couple of generations ago. This is an acceptable CPU for an entry level gaming rig but that's about it. Core count is starting to matter more in AAA gaming and some benchmarks I saw just today suggest that even a midrange GPU really should have an 8 core CPU. I would likely see another 5-15fps in some more recent titles with my 3060 if I had a 5700X instead of a 5600X. Also, cache is king. A 5800X3D would give substantially better framerates with my 3060.
The fact the bottom tier intel CPU has had the same amount of cache for the past 3 generations is pretty sad and says that they've just given up on the quad core at this point. Even AMD has seemingly thrown in the towel on quad cores with the launch of the Ryzen 3 5100 and 5300G, with just 8MB L3 cache.
i was on a 3900x for about a year and a half time to leave am4 i grabbed a b660 and an 12100 for now, updated my bios gonna snag a 14500 and have 14th gen intel but even this 12100 is running games as good as the 3900x
i did opposite...go the most unusual route and chosed the most rare i3 on lga1700 and winner was 13100T directly from Intel🤩fully unlocked UHD770 btw 14100(X) have newer memory controller so perf. on DDR5 can be higher or should be but i want to snap all of them and thest them to the limits even models with iGPU i don´t really like cpus without that but i accidentally ended with one😮💨13400 box but in it was F sku🤔and about 12400 i rather say go for 13400 or F or whatever even with ddr4 if price is not so far off for you because 10cores are 10 cores so you can do some work or installation without any stutters while in game
I think it would be a really great CPU if the price was just a bit lower.
Right now I can get a ryzen 5 5600 for €129 while the 14100F is €124. Plus AM4 motherboards are a bit cheaper too.
Edit: the 12400F is also only €130
Short answer: just get the i3-12100F or if you want to get on AM5 for cheap go with the R3 8300G
The PS5 and the Xbox Sasuke X have 8 core zen2 CPUs that are similar to R7 3700x but gimped and thermal throttled and at around the performance level of an R5 3600. PS5 Pro will have the same 8 core cpu but better cooling solution and it will be higher clocked. So that R5 3600 is the bottom line for me.
Even if some quad core was to be released at $50 that outperforms the R7 5800x3D I will not be buying a quad core cpu in current year.
Quadcores have come a long way. My I7 7700k with an RX6950xt gets almost 100fps less in Fortnite. Granted I run at 1440p, but still.
power consumption is just like 7800x3d but a lot worse performance, goes to show how much better ryzens are(2x or more). also this is the exact same as 12100f just a little less clock 3 generations same silicon what a joke intel also i think its best to get 12100/f and BCLK overclock to 5+ ghz you get better then 14100
I view the 12/13/14100 line of 4 core processors as a bridge chip: something to start off with when money is tight on a new rig but not something to stick with. There is no way I'd spend extra for the minimal gains the 14 gen part offers over the 12th gen when in all likelihood I'd be replacing it shortly.
You must consider that there are poor countries in the world and being able to afford something like an i3 12100 is a big compromise, theres still a lot of people using Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Haswell in those places. Other than that, I agree with you.
14100f is just a overclocked 12100, no perf increase what so ever, if it was good, MAKE IT A DUAL CORE
in Jakarta: 12100F is about £65, 13100F is £90, 14100F is £100. Yup, pay 50% more from 12th to 14th gen for 10% better .1% fps. For £100, the i5-12400F is the better choice
Intel will almost surely scrap the upgrade path after the next generation and they have previously with their tick-tock model. Same CPU socket but incompatible chipsets etc so you have to buy a new motherboard for a modest improvement.
I feel safer going with AM5 because hopefully AMD will keep the upgrade path open like they have with AM4.
Why would you test these games at ultra settings in a CPU comparison? In my understanding these settings affect mainly the GPU, so having the settings at max would only risk a GPU bottleneck (especially in games like kingdom come deliverance) therefore it wouldn't be an accurate CPU comparison...
reminder that AM4 isnt quite dead yet and an R5 5600 or 5600X with 6 cores costs as much or even less than these i3s with 4 cores. hell, you can even get the 8-core 5700X for like 30 bucks more. unless you're buying the i3 as a stopgap until you can afford a new i7 or something like that, i guess, AM4 remains an excellent choice for the gamer on a budget
Um.. As usual if you want reasonable performance, dont get an i3. I guess the 14400(F) is bang for buck optimization.
*We need a 4P cores+2E core/6 threads i3 next gen so it is a 6 cores+6 threads entry level cpu as this is a compromise cause clearly intel does not want a 6 core 12 threaded entry level i3* 😢
Much better to get an i5-12400F unless you won't be playing modern games. Even if most newer games are still playable on quad-core the experience will be smoother and more consistent on a 6-core especially if you have other things running in the background like Discord or your web browser.
In my country (czech republic) the I3 14100F is more expensive than an R5 5600X, so it just seems pointless to buy it here.
It's not the fastest quad core. Get the 12100/f and overclock it via baseclock. I had one a while ago that would easily do 5.4GHz all day.
Ngl I think 6 cores should be the norm now.
People shouldn't buy a quad-core for gaming in this day an age. The CPU usage is pegged at 100% in some CPU intensive games and when a small update or an antivirus scan starts running in the background, you start getting stutters. Get at least an i5 if you want smooth gameplay and longevity.
One piece of advice peoole should keeo in mind is that if you are planning on buying a new AM4 rig, you should really look at intel because your next platform upgrade will require a mobo change regardless.
Otherwise if you can afford AM5, get it.
in the US the i3 14100F is $119.99 -- the Ryzen 5 3600 is $110.99 -- how do these two compare ?
Basically old school i7 spec although 7nm lithography performance at a budget price.......for a cpu that can game
just buy old xeons guys, big tech doesn't care about budget gaming anymore.
You'll get enthusiast grade hardware for a fraction of the price.
I'd rather take my I3 12100f, it does okey for a bit stream on competitive games title. cause my gpu doesn't have encoder
So biggest change is the stock cooler. Still annoying under load, but not as awful as for 12100F.
I got a 13100F for $65 USD. I don’t think that deal is ever going to be beat for something new.
To be honest, the i3 12100f, i5 12400f and i5 13400f are only good one for alder lake socket...
Just get the ryzen 5 5500 for 80 bucks and cheaper motherboard if you're looking to get a budget rig
3200 ddr4 😁😁😁 man difference between 4133 ddr4 and 3200 nowadays like 20 dollars
With power consumption like that it’s starting to feel like the pentium D days vs the athlon 64 x2
The Intel core i5 12400F is better deal. It has two more cores and offers 1ms less latency.
Also it’s the same price as this i3 listed here.
Intel should have gave it 8 efficiency cores and 4 performance cores but I guess that will never happen since that will eat into i5 lineup of sales
"Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two processors."
"They're the same processor."
3 gens of re-releasing the same CPU's. intel is stagnating again, just like in 2012-2020
8:22, amazing parking skills mate
Seems like the ryzen 5 5500/5600 remains as the budget CPU kings