i7 7700K vs i3 12100F - Can The Last Quad Core i7 Keep Up?

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
  • How well does one of the last Core i7 processors keep up in comparison to a modern i3? The 7700K has 4 cores, 8 threads and was a really capable gaming CPU back in 2017.
    The i3 12100F launched in 2022 and is perfect for those who want to build a system on a budget. But which is better?
    0:00 Intro
    0:47 Fallout 4
    1:31 Kingdom Come Deliverance
    2:11 The Witcher 3
    3:02 Cyberpunk 2077
    3:56 Starfield
    4:32 Alan Wake 2
    5:00 Red Dead Redemption 2
    5:31 Cinebench CPU Benchmarks
    5:48 Final Thoughts
    Thanks for watching :)
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  • @rometherevenant8749
    @rometherevenant8749 Місяць тому +441

    Patrick: Its okay little guy take your time. (Pets i7 7700k)

  • @Vengir
    @Vengir Місяць тому +396

    A perfect demonstration of why "I have an i7" doesn't tell much about your actual specs.

    • @Mr.Genesis
      @Mr.Genesis Місяць тому +19

      THANK YOUUUUU!!!!! I was gonna make this comment but you made it for me "I have an i7" means literally nothing

    • @TheAtomoh
      @TheAtomoh Місяць тому +10

      When i tell people i have a Ryzen 7 they ask: "what is that?"

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 Місяць тому +23

      People are still using "i7" as a selling point when trying to move absolutely ancient Nehalem and Westmere processors at places like eBay and Amazon Marketplace.

    • @rj7250a
      @rj7250a Місяць тому +21

      ​@@dycedargselderbrother5353this was even worse for laptops. You would see a "i7" in the name, and then it was a dual core CPU, basically a i3 with better iGPU and slightly higher clock speed for $400 extra.

    • @HearsingAround
      @HearsingAround Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dycedargselderbrother5353if you compare it to the i3 systems of that time, if you know you're buying and old system and they advertise what gen i see no problem tho. i mean if it still works it still can be used 1 gen i7 compaired to the q2q's was mindblowing

  • @aid0nex
    @aid0nex Місяць тому +113

    Im still daily driving the i7 7700K with 32GB of DDR4 and a GTX 1080. Together with a fast m2 SSD, I can play all games I want - at least in 1080p.

    • @MjkL1337
      @MjkL1337 Місяць тому +19

      that's beastly config even for today in my opinion.

    • @aid0nex
      @aid0nex Місяць тому +9

      @@MjkL1337 yes it indeed is! build this pc in 2017 and it still does hold up!

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 Місяць тому +13

      Don't worry your 1080 is still faster than the junk RTX 3050 8GB

    • @thomaswest2583
      @thomaswest2583 Місяць тому +7

      The gtx 1080 is still pretty strong gpu. It still pretty strong. It's gonna be good at 1080p high for at least a couple more years

    • @vucadao
      @vucadao Місяць тому

      @@MjkL1337 cry BABY

  • @Mr.Genesis
    @Mr.Genesis Місяць тому +30

    Older Hardware comparisons are what all of us need.. I don't need to know how good a $3000 setup is.. i want to know how good my PC from 2016 is compared to a PC today
    That's what matters to me and many many others..

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +7

      Yeah they’re among some of my favourite videos to make too :)

  • @TehLKD
    @TehLKD Місяць тому +267

    It’s insane how far we’ve come. 10 years ago I’d say never touch i3 for gaming and now it’s industry norm!😊

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +36

      Yeah they’re great value for money :)

    • @sidrfen
      @sidrfen Місяць тому +14

      intel simply renamed i7 to i3 ☝😲

    • @kidmorbid9112
      @kidmorbid9112 Місяць тому +35

      But 12 years ago a i3 2100 (or 2120) was also good enough for gaming and a budget tip. Most of the games at this time aren't optimized for more than 2 CPU cores.

    • @BlazeShorts820
      @BlazeShorts820 Місяць тому +8

      I've had an i3 12100F for nearly 2 years and am very happy with it

    • @ryanolsen294
      @ryanolsen294 Місяць тому +2

      @@kidmorbid9112 true, apart from fry cry 1 lol

  • @QuiteLunacy
    @QuiteLunacy Місяць тому +121

    I'm honestly shocked at how well the 7700k did. I was not expecting 60+fps in every title but Starfield, which is one of the worst CPU optimized titles I can think of. Would've loved to see how it fared against the dreaded Dragons Dogma II!

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +40

      Haha yeah I don’t own any components that can offer smooth frame rates in that game

    • @ilovelimpfries
      @ilovelimpfries Місяць тому +6

      ​@RandomGaminginHD best part of being a broke youtuber. Everything that you own is pretty much what we have, which makes the result more relevant than the big guys.

    • @burrfoottopknot
      @burrfoottopknot Місяць тому

      It (the 7700K) would be a reall good choice if you only play at 1080p and dont expect above high settings and want above 60fps budget wise, much cheaper over all system cost and the power draw was only about %15-20 more at times (under 55 watts) which is very respectable

    • @Ignisan_66
      @Ignisan_66 Місяць тому +4

      Dragon's Smegma

    • @builder396
      @builder396 25 днів тому

      @@burrfoottopknot I dont know why people say specific CPUs are good for specific resolutions. There is no correlation between the two because rendering more pixels is more GPU work, but for the CPU the workload per frame does not really change, it still sends the same data of what to render to the GPU. Even on graphics quality settings only half of them at most have a serious effect on CPU load, and even that is mostly down to the CPU shuffling more data to the GPU like higher resolution texture files, which usually isnt a groundbreaking difference either.

  • @shammendraeshwar433
    @shammendraeshwar433 Місяць тому +84

    Iam really happy i chose i3 12100f for my first ever pc build.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +14

      Great choice!

    • @ironbru1986
      @ironbru1986 Місяць тому +8

      I used to have one, great CPU, highly recommended, however don't pair it with anything more powerful than a 3060 Ti 8 GB / 4060 Ti 16 GB, the bottleneck is quite extreme with anything higher than that. I'm saying this from experience.

    • @fanlessfurmark
      @fanlessfurmark Місяць тому +4

      i have i3 12100f with 3060 8GB dual, it's fine, tbh

    • @yQm.
      @yQm. Місяць тому +2

      @@ironbru1986 Go for a 3060 max anything higher will bottleneck i got a 12100f with a 4060 and there's always a 10-15% bottleneck depending on which game, There's no bottleneck in gpu intensive games tho

    • @kadavercade3597
      @kadavercade3597 Місяць тому +1

      Same here! Prebuilt sellers have been hounding me to get a Ryzen 3600, glad I didn't picked it up.

  • @XxPureKhaosxX
    @XxPureKhaosxX Місяць тому +130

    Something to note though is i3 is 20-30% more power efficient and that’s without undervolting.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +29

      Very true

    • @tuzzogetti
      @tuzzogetti Місяць тому +4

      why undervolting? the amount of energy you save by undervolting the CPU is minimal.

    • @XxPureKhaosxX
      @XxPureKhaosxX Місяць тому +28

      @@tuzzogetti it would just be additional power savings. If you think about it 15 W for 4 hours every 3 days is about 7-8 kWh a year saved. Granted it’s not much since these are generally low power chips. It’s definitely something to think about though if you have certain goals in mind.

    • @abhimaanmayadam5713
      @abhimaanmayadam5713 Місяць тому +14

      @@tuzzogetti you also benefit from lower temps as well when you undervolt.

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 Місяць тому

      We can overclock the 7700K though, and it is already keeping up pretty well.

  • @BenAkenobi
    @BenAkenobi Місяць тому +10

    The upgrade path for 7700 exists, it's called "coffee mod" where you take an 8th or 9th Gen i5 or i7 or Xeon or ES Qxxx chip, isolate some contacts, flash the BIOS and it works, not for every board but many do it fine

    • @TheChiro2000
      @TheChiro2000 28 днів тому

      Didn't know that, you can get 6 core in there?

    • @BenAkenobi
      @BenAkenobi 27 днів тому +5

      @TheChiro2000 yeah, up to 8-core as well (people ran i9 9900 on z170 boards), but the bios should be patched and flashed first, it's individual for every chip, it adds so-called CPU microcodes for 8th or 9th gen into the bios. Also some work required to cover several pins on the actual replacement CPU and to short a couple of contacts as well. Sounds like unnecessary hassle and indeed it is, except for upping from dualcore i3 or pentium to 4-core i3 8100, 8300 or 9100f SRF7W, these work without messing with contacts, just bios flash needed.

  • @Kim-fm2vo
    @Kim-fm2vo Місяць тому +16

    For Fallout 4, there's a mod that properly uncaps FPS to avoid breaking physics. It's called "High FPS Physics Fix"

    • @Vengir
      @Vengir Місяць тому +1

      Didn't it break with the recent patch?

  • @lokithor9905
    @lokithor9905 Місяць тому +28

    I scored a 6700k/mobo combo for free. Previous owner thought it was broken.

    • @Jepson07
      @Jepson07 Місяць тому

      ❤👍

    • @MjkL1337
      @MjkL1337 Місяць тому

      i wish i was this lucky

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Місяць тому +5

      That's better than the garbage PC I got a couple of years ago. As in someone just dumped it in the dumpster. That had some i7 900 series chip which I swapped out for a Xeon x5650. It's now in a family member's possession for whatever they're using it for.

  • @THU31
    @THU31 Місяць тому +16

    Please make sure you include the CPU clock in the RTSS overlay in all your benchmarks. Useful information. 😀

  • @onehourboy
    @onehourboy Місяць тому +17

    i got a gaming pc with a i7 7700k for free because it wouldn't boot it was because of a bad gpu so i spent 50$ on a gtx 1060 6gig and i love it

  • @m8x425
    @m8x425 Місяць тому +4

    I had a 7700k once. It was a fun little CPU to overclock and delid. it hit 5.2GHz with a bit of a voltage bump and 5.1GHz was the sweet spot. You'd be amazed at how small Intel's 4-core 14nm dies are.

  • @MojoWrangler
    @MojoWrangler Місяць тому +5

    I always enjoy your garden shots.

  • @thesaviorwolf8601
    @thesaviorwolf8601 Місяць тому +22

    My brother is still running a 1080 and i7 6700k. Still good enough to play games. He also has 13790k and 4070ti build but only for games he can't play on his old beast.

    • @monolofiminimal
      @monolofiminimal Місяць тому +1

      Yeah I'm like that as well, I just got a 7950x3d+4070S but I'm still using my i7-4790K+GTX1070FE primarily. I only switch to the other when I can't play it on there.

    • @theodentherenewed4785
      @theodentherenewed4785 Місяць тому +7

      I don't see what the point of using old PCs is. The newer hardware lets you play old titles in 4k, there's always a benefit of using the new build, even if it's just the shorter loading times.

    • @thesaviorwolf8601
      @thesaviorwolf8601 Місяць тому

      @@theodentherenewed4785 he has emulators on it that hard to set up+ he doesn’t like windows 11

    • @RudolfSikorsky
      @RudolfSikorsky Місяць тому +2

      Nostalgy? I am spending significantly more timebehind my C2D E8400/GTX 970 Win XP machine and FX6300/RX 580 Win 7 (both heavily overclocked of course) than behind my main rig (5800x3d/RTX 3080 12GB).

    • @RudolfSikorsky
      @RudolfSikorsky Місяць тому +2

      BTW, playing older titles at 4k usually isn't good idea, even if they have such high resolution option. UI usually doesn't scale and is unusable.

  • @ANN1H1LATE89
    @ANN1H1LATE89 Місяць тому +1

    Another awesome vid Steve. Love these comparison videos 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @codegame027
    @codegame027 Місяць тому +22

    I had a 6700k. I recently retired it into a dedicated baremetal linux box to do homelab stuff with.

    • @BREEZYM6015
      @BREEZYM6015 Місяць тому

      I have no idea what you just said. 😂

    • @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams
      @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams Місяць тому +5

      ​@BREEZYM6015 I'm going to try to guess what he means without searching anything up.
      He transferred it into an open/caseless build that he runs Linux with, to cook meth in his homelab

    • @jponz85
      @jponz85 Місяць тому

      Had the same. 6700k paired with a gtx 1080ti. Was great for 1080p gaming.

    • @NineS5
      @NineS5 Місяць тому

      @@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams you're the goddamn iron chef!

  • @Dregomz02
    @Dregomz02 Місяць тому +52

    I still have that i7 7700k and not going to replace it any time soon. New games are not worth the upgrade price and with my saved money i spent it on my dental health.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Місяць тому +5

      I still have a i5-4670 and I'm not going to replace it any time soon. Someday though. Maybe 4 of 5 years from now? I'll see what prices are like then.

    • @joeykeilholz925
      @joeykeilholz925 Місяць тому +16

      Damn. Has to be America.

    • @simonbannow3905
      @simonbannow3905 Місяць тому +2

    • @obtains
      @obtains Місяць тому +10

      I still have a i7-3770 and i7-4770k both still do well surprisingly with how old they are now. The i7-4770k is in a computer with a 980 ti never selling it was my first proper gaming pc.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Місяць тому +6

      @@obtains I've never sold any PC I've ever owned. I still have my 386. It's in tough shape today. But the bits and pieces are still around. I'm just not one for selling things.

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn Місяць тому +2

    I changed from an i7 7700k overclocked to 5ghz all core to a r7 5700x with just power limit raised to 120w ( both using my ageing gtx1080 and the same 32gb of ddr4 3600 ) and the performance uplift was nothing short of amazing .

  • @StancedVacuum
    @StancedVacuum Місяць тому +5

    just repurposed my z77+970+3570k+16GB @ 1600mhz platform for my inlaws as a productivity machine. Gonna boot it up soon and take a step back in time! Love vids like these. 2013 was right around the time I built my first rig so it warms me heart to see these benches. Cheers

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +2

      😒👍 Keep It Old School

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko Місяць тому +2

      Run the ram at least at 1866CL10/CL11. Push to the next speed if possible. It should massively increase minimum fps and processing speed. My 2500k has a massive boost going to 1866CL10

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ayuchanayuko I might have to do that for a friend myself... He has a 4670k right now. Pretty sure it's a set of Ripjaws X 1600MHz memory in his board too.

    • @StancedVacuum
      @StancedVacuum Місяць тому +1

      saw up to 2133mhz for ddr3 kits online. May do that to max out the platform lol

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko Місяць тому

      @@StancedVacuum if you have any decent ram, especially the OCer kind (Team Xtreem, GSkill), just use your board settings to manually turn up your Ram frequency up. Just make sure to compensate with timings. You're after the general frequency increase but maintaining your latency. There are frequency-CL tables out there.
      In general, 1333CL7=1600cl9=1866CL10/11. Most Ram modules are just like this. I ran mine in XMP mode to get 1600CL9-9-9-27 with tighter subtimings, then manually went to 1866CL10-10-10-33.
      Usually ram freq can go up but latency gets longer. End effect latency is still the same, but you get faster bandwidth (which means faster data loading, higher minimum FPS, faster minimum speed overall)
      Then if you're feeling adventurous, decrease your CL numbers by 1. E.g. From CL11-11-11-33 to CL10-10-10-33.
      If unstable, make sure you are running at 1.5V. Increase slightly to 1.52 and max out at 1.6V. AFAIK the higher voltage makes the ram generate more heat and can perform better, but it takes a toll on your IMC which can result in instability so balance it out. Basically tradeoff of ram instability to IMC instability.

  • @shadowkyun
    @shadowkyun Місяць тому +29

    When the 7000 series intel cpus came out and amd ryzen cpus came out I ended up deciding on more cores (r5 1600) as I thought that cpus with more cores was going to be the path forward. Now I'm happy with my 5800x3d.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +10

      Good choice to be honest. Then and now!

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf Місяць тому +4

      Back then the Ryzen were not good, specially compared to coffee-lake. But thankfully AMD was then forced to keep supporting AM4 despite trying to cancel it twice - and gave us some really good CPUs after that.

    • @muratbasc8302
      @muratbasc8302 Місяць тому +1

      What a crazy investment that was! Hats off

    • @JohnDoe_333
      @JohnDoe_333 Місяць тому +2

      @@ABaumstumpf First Ryzen was really good, if you factor in price to performance. Most people just don't buy the fastest chip, gaming performance was comparable in the same price class.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf Місяць тому +2

      @@JohnDoe_333 They were ok for some production workloads, but for games they were... yeah no. Zen1 released after Intels 7th gen, but was competing with 4th gen, in many games it was just barely on tie with the 2600K. But it was a massive step up in productivity and worlds apart from bullcrapper.
      With Zen2 AMD then finally filled the gap in terms of gaming performance - that was mid 2019, so 2 years later.

  • @rileybrown4066
    @rileybrown4066 Місяць тому +7

    Been rocking my 7700k since release and have no motivation to upgrade it since I do not play anything too intense

  • @userwastaken3069
    @userwastaken3069 Місяць тому +9

    203 views in 2 minutes, bro is thriving

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey Місяць тому +3

    Just upgraded from the venerable i7-7700K, even in 2024 it's still very capable. Served me well for 6 years.

  • @straybricks
    @straybricks Місяць тому +2

    I just picked up a 7700k on a Maximus IX Hero board for $80 and it’s perfect for my needs. I’ll probably pick up an 12th or 13th gen i5 bundle at Micro Center when I can raise the funds.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Місяць тому +3

    I still die a little inside seeing local system integrators selling "i7 gaming PCs!" at premium or near premium prices to unsuspecting buyers.

  • @Vile-Flesh
    @Vile-Flesh Місяць тому

    Fantastic comparison.

  • @NiCO-jo2vh
    @NiCO-jo2vh Місяць тому +1

    My very first PC that I bought with my own money had a i7 7700.
    It was pretty good at the time and is probably still usable today.
    That also makes me miss my GTX 1070 from back then.

  • @YuasBirds
    @YuasBirds Місяць тому +5

    Still have a 7700k! I do plan on getting an R7 7800x3D later this year though, slowly getting the parts together. 7700k is still perfectly fine for gaming (for me at least, don't play many AAA games), but the ram/storage/CPU limitations are preventing me from doing what I want with image processing.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      microcenter has the 7800x3d in a bundle =)

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 Місяць тому +2

      sht, later this year the Ryzen 9000 series processors will be out. 9000x3d processors early next year

    • @multiicore_
      @multiicore_ Місяць тому +1

      Doubt you need the 3d chip. Would honestly go with the 7900 with the stock cooler.

  • @norbertorlik354
    @norbertorlik354 Місяць тому

    Love your videos, it makes me smile when i get notification :) you can try to delid 7700k to get past 5GHz without cooking it.

  • @lord5619
    @lord5619 Місяць тому +2

    Just a hint for future videos, for us spec hungry people. Could you include frequency of each CPU in the Afretburner overlay?

  • @ussonsoupape6500
    @ussonsoupape6500 Місяць тому +2

    my 7700k still work well with rpcs3 on mint. Absolute garbage when i received it with really high temp. It was the first time with me trying to uncap a cpu. Since i put metal liquid behind the ihs it s running like good old wine at 5ghz. Great video!

  • @DanglyDongle
    @DanglyDongle Місяць тому +1

    Running both at factory is great, but my old 7700k had a ton of OC headroom. Out of the box perfection was most of what intel was stuck on for a few generations. Would love to see a follow up with some oc tweaking. Finally upgraded to a 13700k, and my old 7700k I keep in a backup/guest pc

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 Місяць тому

    Nice comparison

  • @Jomenaa
    @Jomenaa Місяць тому +1

    Really looking forward to those overclock results! If you bought one of these babies you HAD to try if it reached 5GHz as it was the first consumer CPU to do so :P I only ever had 6700K and it clocked to 4,7GHz with safe voltages for daily use. Sidegraded it to R5 3600 some years back and still going strong ;)

  • @Jason32Bourne
    @Jason32Bourne 19 днів тому

    What fov settings do you use in Fallout 4? It looks great!

  • @heylookthatboi
    @heylookthatboi Місяць тому +1

    Might have been nice if you could see the clock speeds of both the cpus in the msi overlay.

  • @dano5238
    @dano5238 Місяць тому

    Great video. Just shows how the modern i3 is a fantastic budget gaming cpu.

  • @HD_Heresy
    @HD_Heresy Місяць тому +4

    Man for some reason the 7700K is the only CPU I ever got REALLY excited for and I can't explain why, I think something about the super high clock speeds and quad core being still kind of rare at the time just got me so hyped for it and I still feel that love :)

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +2

      🙂 i feel the same for my Devils Canyon 4790K 🔥😈🔥 i recently refurbished it, i gave her a Red Devil 5700 XT to play with her🔥😈😈🔥

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Місяць тому +4

      Haswell is the one that has a special place with me for some unknown reason.

    • @HD_Heresy
      @HD_Heresy Місяць тому +1

      @@MrSamadolfo My friend had a 4790K and they loved it! Also the name is badass, "Devils Canyon" like it's impossible to be cooler 😂😂

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      @@HD_Heresy 😎👍 FACTS! 🔥😈🔥

  • @richardfarmer6570
    @richardfarmer6570 29 днів тому

    This is a great comparison, the last of Intels i7 4/8 flagship against what would be considered a very budget CPU. $122 vs $339 2017 price. Amazing how much has changed.

  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 Місяць тому +1

    Steve, let me know if you'd like to borrow an MSI GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme to test out! I can post one down (I'm in Edinburgh). Re your previous video about the GTX 560, would be interesting to see just how far Fermi 2.0 can really go these days, especially when VRAM isn't quite so limited.

  • @simonbannow3905
    @simonbannow3905 Місяць тому

    Fntastic job Steven!

  • @raymondhachmishvili2483
    @raymondhachmishvili2483 Місяць тому +2

    12th gen intel CPUs is the best release from intel in decade. great efficiency and performance. unlike 13th,14th gen.

  • @MajorstiQ
    @MajorstiQ Місяць тому +1

    good video , but you forgot the CPU Temps

  • @stewills9711
    @stewills9711 Місяць тому

    I know not exactly on topic, How did you run it uncapped ? its not working for me using the old .ini file tweak. I used to use an FPS cap to 60 to keep the physics in check but now im stranded at 46fps :/

  • @bluej511
    @bluej511 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Just noticed your rdr2, one is vulkan one is dx12. Not sure if it makes any difference. I recently redownloaded it to test my 5gbps internet, and game still freezes for me randomly in vulkan, have yet to try dx12.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      🙂 try old school DX 11

  • @F4N4TICFTW
    @F4N4TICFTW Місяць тому +1

    I would say the i7 did very well. Let's remember that this i7 is basically a 2015 refresh, yielding very solid performance for almost 10 years

  • @samcadwallader2899
    @samcadwallader2899 Місяць тому +1

    My takeaway from this is that people who still have their i7-7700K on a decent z170 still don't need to upgrade their CPU for gaming. Mine overclocked to a solid 4.6ghz without messing with voltages no problem at all.

  • @Reknilador
    @Reknilador Місяць тому

    Thats really cool, didnt expect the 7700k to lose out by so much. Would have loved to see how it would compete with an all core OC to like 4.8 ghz but i guess this will do.

  • @gurshair
    @gurshair 26 днів тому

    Good to see how far we have come since 14nm+. Excited to see what the 15th gen will bring with Xe graphics

  • @ghosttheoremproductions5469
    @ghosttheoremproductions5469 Місяць тому +2

    I was very impressed with the 10100f/10105. Almost bang-on with the 7700k. It's also available for dirt cheap. Probably one of the best value new cpus for 1080p gaming. Regularly available for $70 usd brand new or $50 usd used on Ebay. Cheaper motherboards too.

  • @mastracu66207
    @mastracu66207 Місяць тому +2

    My brother is looking into upgrading his old i5 7500 RX 570 PC, he was convinced he only needed a used 7700K for a 2080ti (he's on a tight budget) and wouldn't budge when I asked him to look into upgrading to AM4 or at least upgrade his Intel platform, but this video finally made him change his mind. Thank you.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      the 2080ti is a pretty fast card, u need a modern board

    • @mastracu66207
      @mastracu66207 25 днів тому +1

      @@MrSamadolfo I agree, he settled for a R5 5600

  • @frale_2392
    @frale_2392 24 дні тому

    The 7700K was my first CPU, it came in a prebuilt with a 1060 and a noctua cooler. That system lasted for 6 years, the only thing I have left is the cooler that I was able to put in a SFF case

  • @whodisab9725
    @whodisab9725 Місяць тому +1

    i had this cpu paired with an asrock z270 k6 and 16gb of corsair red led 3200 c16 , since my country's prices are so bad i was able to sell them when 12th gen went into the market and with only the money i got from the sale i was able to buy myself a 12400F + Gskill 16GB DDR4 RGB + B660 Plus D4 motherboard. Basically a free upgrade.

  • @elmSTREETnasty
    @elmSTREETnasty Місяць тому +1

    Great video! I'd like to see this with a 10400 vs 7700K.

  • @navit3723
    @navit3723 Місяць тому +1

    @RandomGaminginHD
    Pricing on old i7's is funny. About 2 months ago I sold a similar combo(6700k/z270/16gb) for $140 and picked up a i3 12100f B660M combo for $60. My question is, would I be bottlenecking a RTX 2080 super at 1080p? I wanted to know what would be a better pairing for the i3 12100f; an RTX 2080 Super or a GTX 1660 Ti?

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +2

      2080 Super is too much and the 1660 Ti is too slow, im would like something somewhere in the middle, maybe a 5700 XT, 6700 10Gb, 6700 XT, 3060 12gb, something like that 🤔 and of course a Tier C power supply from the PSU TIER LIST

    • @navit3723
      @navit3723 Місяць тому +1

      @@MrSamadolfo thank you for the advice, I appreciate it. As for the power supply, it's a Seasonic platinum 850w, a bit overpowered but it was a hand me down from my older brother.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      @@navit3723 🙂 your welcome, yes thats a decent power supply

  • @user-gm4ey2uj5u
    @user-gm4ey2uj5u Місяць тому +1

    I was looking forward to seeing the performance of the i7 7700k when overclocked in this video. I wondered if its gaming performance when overclocked would be on par with the i3 12100F. What do you think?

  • @wctgttm
    @wctgttm Місяць тому

    F4SE and the physics fix are both updated, you can go ahead and fix your Fallout 4 install now.

  • @MaxVelzgg
    @MaxVelzgg Місяць тому +1

    Helldivers 2 its also pretty cpu intensive too, you should add it to the benchmarks

  • @Redmage913
    @Redmage913 Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating to know how far the quad-core i7 has fallen. I’m keeping my i7-2600 of course, but I was a bit surprised!
    Only 2:30 in, but I’m hoping you did power comparisons - that might be more important at this point, in terms of Europeans needing efficiency over cost.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      🙂 unfortunately most content creators dont show you the power consumption nor do they have a Watt Meter, kinda strange

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Місяць тому +1

      the power draw is at the top, its about 10w more than the 12100f the entire time

  • @ironbru1986
    @ironbru1986 Місяць тому +1

    I know you mentioned it in the video about both CPU's holding the 4070 Super back, but as someone who briefly used a 12100 with a 4070 Super while waiting for my 12600 to arrive, I can give you some idea about how much it was holding it back.
    I tested it in Borderlands 2 (yes I know it's an old game, it's what I was playing with a friend at the time) with the frame rate limit removed (I usually play with a 60 FPS cap, I removed it to get a general Idea about how much headroom much system has overall) and was getting about 180 FPS with the 12100, with the 12600 I'm getting about 700 FPS.
    So yeah, the 4070 Super is just being slightly (massively) held back, LOL!

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      I keep a cap of 60, I play most of my games using the Living Room TV, with a 60 fps cap the Watt Meter is showing 350 watts, and just for fun I tested unlimited fps and the Watt Meter jumped to 500 watts 🔥

  • @itsryeko
    @itsryeko Місяць тому +3

    Hi, i love your videos. Can you test an i5 11400f in 2024 because i was thinking of upgrading to an i5 11400f with rx 6600 from my i3 10100f and gtx 1050 ti. Also can you help me decide whether i should upgrade to an i5 11th gen or just build a new system with r5 7500f and ddr5??

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      🙂 just depends exactly what you have rite now in the rest of the system? is it a nice ATX Z490 overclocking motherboard? some nice ddr4 3200 32gb of ram? if not and instead u got some stripped down dell hp prebuilt stuff then I would forget about the system and step up to something modern but get yourself something nice: nice chip, nice board, nice ram, nice power supply

    • @itsryeko
      @itsryeko Місяць тому +1

      @@MrSamadolfo I have a gigabyte h510m mobo and 16gb ddr4 2666, anyways thank you for your answer. I guess i would be upgrading to am5 with r5 7500f then. Thanks friend!! :D

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      @@itsryeko Your Welcome and have a good week =)

  • @vgRater
    @vgRater Місяць тому

    Wow this looks exactly as my old mobo+ cpu combo with the SAME cooler master cpu cooler, it was a beast. I upgraded last month finally to a i5 12th gen for better stability in VR. Still holds up great for modern games tho, I even bought it used from a office PC. Lasted me 4 years on that beast

  • @grimmpickins2559
    @grimmpickins2559 Місяць тому

    I enjoy these sorts of comparative benchmarks.
    As I've mentioned elsewhere, my modern platform computer is my secondary system as I bottom-feed the parts to complete it - so my main system remains a 10600k based PC. I'm really just short a decent CPU on my LGA1700 board, which I've been torturing with a G7400 for funsies (I found DDR5 ram locally, cheap for what it was - so it has 64 GB of 6000mhz that I can't even touch, LOL). I also sourced a i9 stock cooler for it, for free, from the guy who had the RAM (he downgraded, because the whole 12th gen i9 thing was overkill for the aRPGs he played, LOL. It's even worse for a cRPG guy like me!).
    I just haven't been able to make myself spend the bucks to buy a CPU that really, truly trumps the i5 in my older system - even when I know I have more RAM sitting in the little quiet side gaming PC. I really want to grab something 14th gen, since I can with the motherboard (oddly, a business class Q670 board that I love the green of, and - honestly - it's a pretty damn good, and stable, board). I even have the cooler, and I'm still like, "Meh, this thing is driving the 6750 just fine, still").
    That 10th - 14th gen Intel situation is a bit weird to me, because I'm not sure what or when the right upgrade is coming. $200+ seems steep, especially when 10th gen Intel is still sitting at an OK point. I actually consider that generation, in retrospect, as being a point of solid stagnation for Intel - they are still performing, the 11th gen was lackluster, the 12th/13th/14th is cool and all - but the prices, the damned prices...
    My processor in my main system is still getting nearly a $100 in some scenarios - I got mine as part of a combo...
    I just want to sell this PC and upgrade, but.........
    Yeah. It works.

  • @snotspat
    @snotspat Місяць тому +1

    The Ryzen 4100 and 4300G are quad core CPUs that I haven't seen tested much. Here in Denmark they retail for about 2/3rds the price of the i3-12100, so perhaps that's a comparison you could make some day?

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      🙂 yes its kinda strange but the smaller ryzen chips nobody covers, theres a few videos on the 4500 6/12 but not many

  • @dissolver5388
    @dissolver5388 Місяць тому +1

    im still using my i7700k,no problem in playing games.

  • @ricokaden6562
    @ricokaden6562 Місяць тому

    That’s a nice comparison :)
    7700K overclock also pretty nicely, I guess, it would be quite closed then ;)

  • @hrayz
    @hrayz Місяць тому

    A friend was doing a very limited budget upgrade a few years back. (Zen2 was out and Zen3 was just hitting.) Upgrading from a fx-8350 (Bulldozer 8-thread)
    Got him on the AM4 platform with "upgradability" as the theme. Picked to least expensive starting point to get the most out of the limited budget.
    Ryzen 3 3100 (4 core, 8 thread) -> benchmarks showed it at 98%-102% of the old i7-7700k
    Amazing little chip at a low price.
    ps, (He upgraded to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D when he could save up!)
    pps, (Same with the video card. Got a Radeon RX 6500XT - bargain basement card - then upgraded to the Radeon RX 6750XT when new budget allowed.)
    ppps, (I bought the old CPU and GPU from him to help him with the upgrade budget.)

  • @angeryanimal398
    @angeryanimal398 Місяць тому +2

    Can you test the 7700k with an overclock now?

  • @TheHoldenmcgroin
    @TheHoldenmcgroin Місяць тому

    Literally on upgraded from my i7-7700K in November. Its still in use in my home, its now the base CPU for a very OP Plex server. lol.

  • @evilMANGO-ec7mx
    @evilMANGO-ec7mx 22 дні тому

    It’s crazy how smooth is the rendering with i7 7700K! My temporary i5 6600K + 4070 Super build has stuttering problems in any modern game

  • @cristineb1
    @cristineb1 Місяць тому

    Have the i7 7700k bought it on launch day using it since. I have a asus mobo that offers me some nice OC profiles but the best OC i managed was 5.0 ghz and the temps with Noctua NH d-14 reached about 68 avg 80 -82 degrees celsius on some demanding game titles and big workloads (work related) but these days I only keep it stock so as the ram since I do not need more performance than it can offer on non oc profile even the ram i keep them on 2133 mhz . It stil offers me enough performance for the games i play and for work, at decent power consumption and keeping it stock the fans are quiet enough to keep me happy still also have 32 gb of ram 2 m2 ssds and gtx 1080ti using them on 3440x1440 monitor.

  • @Raiden-pi3gt
    @Raiden-pi3gt Місяць тому +27

    14 seconds and 2 views, bro is thriving

  • @statonotto
    @statonotto Місяць тому +1

    I still have mine at home OC to 4.8GHz because that is where I found it to be the most stable (quick and dirty) overclock I could hit. I think I maxed out ram speeds close to 3833MHz (not sure on the exact speed) but I keep them around 3600MHz for stability as well. Works well with the 1080ti I have in the system. Overall, this setup can still play every game that is available with some lowering of settings.

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer Місяць тому

    Up until about 6 months ago I was running an i7 7700 (non-k) in my HTPC, which I occasionally gamed on. It was surprisingly good. I have since built a new machine with an overclocked/undervolted i7 12700KF, and it shreds the old i7.

    • @AndrasMihalyi
      @AndrasMihalyi Місяць тому

      same experience with 6600k at 4.5 GHz to 12400f stock intel default (4GHz max all core)

  • @FloppyJesuss
    @FloppyJesuss Місяць тому +1

    I’m still rocking a Xeon 5580 from the Lga 1366 socket

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN Місяць тому +2

    6700K @ 4.5 on my media rig. Kinda is like a stock 7700K. :D

  • @ChillBuilds
    @ChillBuilds Місяць тому +1

    I like how you just throw your stuff in the dirt and rocks! 👍

  • @toasty-toast
    @toasty-toast 24 дні тому

    I love this video since my kids have a 2012 dual core laptop and it's incredibly slow. I am trying to build a cheap used PC for them due to budget.

  • @simonfil2
    @simonfil2 Місяць тому

    I would very much like to see a raytracing on/off version of this video, I find that as soon as I start to dabble with any kind of RT my 8700k is screaming at me, so would be interesting to see how much better a newer architecture would handle it with the same GPU.

  • @ezequielmartinez5927
    @ezequielmartinez5927 Місяць тому +2

    I had a 7700k running at 5.1 ghz and was able to keep up with a 2080 at 1440p but at 1080p just couldn’t keep up as good as my 12600kf

  • @justmatt2655
    @justmatt2655 Місяць тому +2

    Question: do you spend more money on components and pre builds than you earn from this channel?

  • @louigucciversace
    @louigucciversace Місяць тому

    Bought one at launch and it served me well but after upgrading to 1440p, it wasn't really cutting it.
    Got a good deal on a 12900k & the 7700k is now in my sister's PC along with my old 1070Ti.

  • @Novotny72
    @Novotny72 Місяць тому

    I'd be really interested in how they fare comparatively in overclocking.

  • @kadavercade3597
    @kadavercade3597 Місяць тому

    Oh man, glad I got an i3 12100f. Already good on most use cases.

  • @ronnie3626
    @ronnie3626 Місяць тому +2

    I am still running a 4790K and Vega 56 in my 2nd system. I don't play the most demanding games, the cpu still is too good to replace it. Of course even a newer i3 would be faster. :)

  • @MainelyElectrons
    @MainelyElectrons Місяць тому

    I figured the 7700k would have much higher power consumption but it wasn’t much more! Cool comparison, I’m still running 7500 i5s for my UNRAID backup servers.

    • @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams
      @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams Місяць тому

      I had an i5 7500. Bought it back in 2016, ran it with a GTX 960 and 8 gigs of DDR4 2400mhz RAM. A modest little system but it got the job done for playing games at 1080p back then

  • @zackzeed
    @zackzeed Місяць тому

    The 7700K and a 1080 was my first build back then. Good times.

  • @XYXYOUTUBE
    @XYXYOUTUBE Місяць тому +3

    will you ever use space engine to benchmark test? its very demanding on gpus specially with LOD amped up.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому

      I’ll have to check it out :)

    • @XYXYOUTUBE
      @XYXYOUTUBE Місяць тому

      @@RandomGaminginHD yeah the specs on the page are def outdated it easily eats 12gb of vram after like 1 hour on ultra lol

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      🙂 never heard of it, i just checked, its available on Steam and GOG, i will wishlist them and wait for a sale

    • @XYXYOUTUBE
      @XYXYOUTUBE Місяць тому +1

      @@MrSamadolfo its a fantastic "Game" to benchmark with

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      @@XYXUA-cam 🙂 ok thanks, i will check it out

  • @shockcrew5275
    @shockcrew5275 Місяць тому

    I was thinking of replacing my Haswell machines with something newer, yet affordable, while keeping the DDR3. Your video got me thinking: maybe I can find a Z170 board for a fair price...

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому +1

      Z Boards are expensive, sometimes the better deal is to buy it in a combo cpu/board/ram the other way is buying a whole used computer, some sellers dont know what they have nor care

  • @coonyman10
    @coonyman10 Місяць тому

    I built my pc 8 years ago and put in a 6700k, which performs identical to the 7700k. Now that new i3 chips walk circles around it, I'm finally considering upgrading

  • @MegaMoto85
    @MegaMoto85 Місяць тому

    ever tried LTSC and tested the difference in games with it installed?

  • @WTBMrGrey
    @WTBMrGrey Місяць тому +2

    Maybe do a similar video with the R3 3100/3300x 👍

  • @Joel-ew1zm
    @Joel-ew1zm Місяць тому +1

    Can't wait to experience the quad core goodness for myself. Just ordered a Q6600 for $0.99 on ebay today to slap in a 2007 Dell "Family PC" build I am doing for playing DX9 and DX10 stuff. PC itself was of course free from work.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      😒👍 LGA 775 FTW 🐢

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      🙂 you might have to update the bios

  • @Miles7955
    @Miles7955 Місяць тому

    I'm running a 6700k @ 4.7Ghz a core (1080Ti OC), I have been thinking about upgrading, but considering how well my system runs most titles, It's got to be a decent upgrade, or really cheap for it to be worth it.

  • @ViperTr99
    @ViperTr99 Місяць тому +3

    Is the 7700k overclocked? Has it faster RAM? Both will lead up to 40% performance gains. Then it will still be faster then the 12100.

    • @robertopazsoldan9641
      @robertopazsoldan9641 24 дні тому

      Mmm the 7700k have a very old memory controller cant support ddr4 3600 in the other side the i3 support ddr4 and ddr5 up to 5200mhz

  • @draakmanz
    @draakmanz 24 дні тому

    i streamed pubg on 7700k 1080ti on 120fps obs settings. pubg ran at 100+ fps. this system held up for 7 years and now my stepson is using it and it's still keeping up :)

  • @sirgurky
    @sirgurky Місяць тому

    It's nuts really how fast CPU can be overtaken, 5 gen jump from top to bottom and better! I do wonder though how a I3 would look in 5 year , the i7 has in theory lasted well but will an I3?

  • @BREEZYM6015
    @BREEZYM6015 Місяць тому +1

    I have an i7 8700k paired with a GTX 1060 6GB. I don't play very demanding games and the results I get are good enough for me. I'll eventually upgrade the GPU to something newer.

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Місяць тому

      🙂 Coffeelake is kinda like the borderline between old and modern, 8700K trades blows with a 3600 and the 3600 is being sold still as new at most retail stores for 80 bucks 🐢 , coffee supports Win 11