1991 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 - - the benchmark for small hot hatches?

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  • @samle8260
    @samle8260 23 дні тому +8

    My dad was a racing driver here in denmark,he was drivning the toyota corolla gti and the twincam ae86 and ae92 models but against renault clio peugeot 205gri 309 gti and so on.. I just love alle the 80s and 90s gti cars the where awsome. Rip dad u are missed a lot.. ❤

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому +1

      Corolla GTI would be nice to get on the channel!

  • @burntoutculture2147
    @burntoutculture2147 23 дні тому +14

    I think those alloys were originally only on the 1.9

    • @hutchy1111
      @hutchy1111 23 дні тому +1

      Yes you are correct. They were standard on the 1.9 GTI. They suit any 205. Brilliant design 👍

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      yup suit it well

  • @davidrumming4734
    @davidrumming4734 22 дні тому +1

    Very good looking car.
    And the dashboard and controls are impressively clean in design.
    Peugeot had the luxury of being a little late to the party with the 205, so benefit being able to see what their rivals did first.

  • @Buck3366
    @Buck3366 22 дні тому +1

    My friend did a full nut and bolt restoration on a 1.9. It was truly stunning condition selling for £22,000. It drove amazingly well but the years have moved on and the performance was slightly lacking when you have turbocharged non hot cooking hatchbacks with 200bhp now but for a nostalgia buzz it was unparalleled and took me back to the early 90s when I had one. I’m looking forwards to your 309 review as I had one of those too.

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      hi, I much preferred the 309 GTi tbh, just felt the better car!

  • @908776541
    @908776541 22 дні тому +1

    Definitely 1.9 wheels on that. IMO the 1.6 was the best car for tight roads I've ever driven. The suspension was so perfect it used to do improbable speeds over nasty undulations and across cambered roundabout entrances. I had mine in the air lots of times too as it flattered my boy-racer proclivities. I traded it for the 1.9 immediately they came out and was left disappointed. The 1.9 didn't feel much faster and had lost the perfectly judged suspension. Moved on to a Golf 16v - that was also disappointing but in different ways. Ahh - nostalgia.

  • @MIAMIBLUE777
    @MIAMIBLUE777 23 дні тому +3

    Have a 1.9 1990 Miami blue limited edition .Had it for about 18 years.Had a 1987 1.9 prior to that for 13 years. Certainly great cars of the time .A different era, more involving.Certainly attract a great deal of attention when ever I drive it. Beautiful styling that still looks good today .That said my Mini Cooper s F56 2016, is probably as much fun ,if not a bit more . The car you tested had incorrect seats and incorrect wheels for a 1.6 .Looked a bit high at the back on the suspension, probably because of the wheels .That is likely to have affected the price at auction ,as not original.

    • @Αναστάσιος-σ8υ
      @Αναστάσιος-σ8υ 22 дні тому

      The BMW Mini is a pig compared compared to the 205 GTi, certainly faster but no comparisons in everything else. Also the 1.9 wheels certainly an upgrade, you are paying less for getting more hahaha

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      long ownership!! id love to add one to my collection

  • @ianjones739
    @ianjones739 23 дні тому +3

    Definitely a bargain, I've seen loads of 205 GTi's for sale at ridiculously high prices, you got to look hard to get a low priced one. I prefer the 309 GTi, I'm sure they all have the 1.9 engine (correct me if I'm wrong). I have my eye on a nice metallic light blue 309 GTi for sale on eBay for over £6k - very tempted!

    • @Αναστάσιος-σ8υ
      @Αναστάσιος-σ8υ 22 дні тому +1

      The 309 is possibly the very best hot hatch from Peugeot, but its lack of racing heritage and its Talbot origins made it forgotten

    • @Buck3366
      @Buck3366 22 дні тому +1

      Buy it! The GTI 309 did only have the 1.9 8v but the Europeans got the 309 16v. I found mine to handle better than my 205 1.9 and it felt a bit more grown up and put together. They also have very cool manual opening rear quarter glass that you open via a system down near the handbrake. The 205 is the prettier car but the 309 was always my favourite.

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому +2

      yeah 4-5k doesn't get you much in the way of 205 gti now!
      id tend to agree with you, ive done a review on a 309GTI not that long ago, yeah only 1.9 8v.
      I would definitely add a 309 to my collection!

  • @Citroenloeb48
    @Citroenloeb48 23 дні тому +1

    Might upset a few but i had a few different hot hatches in the 90s and for me personally the R5 turbo was the car to have they were nuts, mk2 xr2 where far the best handling out of all of them imo, the mist underrated car of the 90s was the 309gti they had everything you wanted imo also, in summary thats the 3 id have in my garage now if i could

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      hello mate - yeah id certainly like to try a mk2 XR2..... let me know if you find one for a review :+)

  • @haddonmacdonald3824
    @haddonmacdonald3824 21 день тому +1

    Hi. Just found your channel 😊

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      hello, hope you enjoy the content.

  • @shahzadayub7191
    @shahzadayub7191 23 дні тому +1

    Bought a 1989 1.9 (130 PS) version back in 2009 - at the height of the financial crisis - for £1K. The most fun I've ever had behind the wheel. It was always so puppy dog eager! Even pottering around town it was fun! Two and a half years later I had a 1992 130 PS 16v Escort XR3i. Got it for £2K. It was a better car - in the dictionary definition sense of the word I guess (felt more sturdy, was more spacious, larger fuel tank etc) - but whilst it was somewhat fun if you pushed it, it was nowhere near as fun as the 205 GTi! In the shape those cars were in when I bought them they'd go for six and three times the amount I paid all those years ago respectively!

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому +1

      interesting, in the early days of the channel I drove a 105ps version of the xr3i and was pretty impressed with it, be good to try a 130ps version.

    • @shahzadayub7191
      @shahzadayub7191 20 днів тому

      @@RetroRatchet Wish I still had it - as Ford only made about 1200 of them so they were always rare - but it rotted from the inside out which rendered it pretty much worthless 😪. The Pug felt zippier at lower revs. The 130 brake XR3i felt swifter at higher revs and generally had a more tractable engine. The 1.8 zetec engine boomed like a cattle auction mind you at certain revs and vibration could be felt through the steering wheel and gearknob even on start up. However both cars had a certain amount of character, which modern motors largely have engineered out of them 😥

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 23 дні тому +1

    I used to have one back in the day, and later a Clio Williams ph1. The Clio was the better driving car. IMO.

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      would love a shot of a Williams !

  • @AnthonyFerran
    @AnthonyFerran 10 днів тому

    Quite right. Those look like 1.9 alloys. Actually prefer the proper pepper pot ones for 1.6

  • @anthonyeverett1391
    @anthonyeverett1391 22 дні тому +1

    I wonder how did the Vauxhall Astra hatchback did with a 1.6 petrol engine did against the Peugeot 205.

  • @StefG2024
    @StefG2024 23 дні тому +1

    What a car, see if you can test the 1.9 version so you can compare.

  • @adebrade172
    @adebrade172 23 дні тому +1

    I had 1.6 and 1.9 both great cars, i also had 5 gt turbo 205 much better road manners but gt was bit of a nutter

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому +1

      I done a review on a 5gt turbo and I know what you mean, id agree with that

  • @NigelMott
    @NigelMott 23 дні тому +1

    Excellent motors had a 1.9 good engines and brakes nothing felt anywhere near as sharp to drive.

  • @samle8260
    @samle8260 23 дні тому +1

    Here is a link to the races he was Walther sambleben My dad..
    ua-cam.com/video/Z-4uKxlzUls/v-deo.htmlsi=2O4d2InCM6e9glTE

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      thanks I just watched it, great seeing those hot hatches battling it out!

  • @Scotty24198424
    @Scotty24198424 23 дні тому +1

    Sooo... the best one was the 1.9 not the 1.6 and those wheels are from the 1.9... absolute sacrilege to have them on the 1.6.

  • @bhencho5256
    @bhencho5256 22 дні тому +1

    The 1.6 is junk, xs is hetter

  • @craighorton6387
    @craighorton6387 23 дні тому +1

    Very over rated

    • @RetroRatchet
      @RetroRatchet  21 день тому

      r u not a fan mate

    • @craighorton6387
      @craighorton6387 20 днів тому

      @RetroRatchet don't see the hype,they was far better cars in that era even the xr3i was better 😂

  • @kevinrobertfrasier1309
    @kevinrobertfrasier1309 23 дні тому +1

    Pug 105's were rappid but both 1.6 and 1.9 had very poor brakes.

    • @MikeMcCoy-o8n
      @MikeMcCoy-o8n 22 дні тому

      In fairness everything had poor brakes in the 80’s, I had an Alfa Romeo 33 that literally had not brakes and when it did the deceleration tore bits off the rusted 3 year old body