Let's Play: Solomon Kane
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Sam welcomes Az back to the studio alongside Leo and Benoit from Mythic Games to talk about the upcoming Solomon Kane board Game.
Taking us through the narrative-driven game, we are introduced to the four virtues that players will embody as they guide Solomon through the scenario. Throughout, the team must work together and share their resources to solve the mystery at the heart of the story.
Which of the four virtues would you most like to play as?
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Hmmm, not so sure. I’ve been really looking forward to this, but this kind of made it look like a slog where not much happens. I need to get some more info.
Joel Karpowitz I thought the same thing. I imagine a lot of this is them explaining things in depth to teach the game, but I could see this turn into a situation where everyone gets bored and wants to get on with it. Not sure if this is worth $110 either.
Sadly I feel the same. 50 minutes into the video and all I see is some micromanaging. Leo and the rest of the MG crew put a lot of passion into the games...I WANT to like this...but currently doubt I'll keep my pledge.
Normally I would agree, but the thing about this game is the theme. There isn't a ton happening physically, but there's a lot in the background, behind the scenes that is shaping the story, and outcome. It does have a fair amount of micro-managing, but that can be said about a lot of games. But when you let yourself get immersed in the story and working together with your other Virtues, you'll either feel a great sense of accomplishment in the outcome, or feel engaged enough to cry out in pain at your loss, lol.
If the explanation was removed, the gameplay would move along at a faster pace, definitely. I got the feeling that it's less about playing only your own character, but everyone working together for the best outcome/strategy.
This game is just oozing theme, with a great, fresh look at mechanics and player characters/abilities. I was quite intrigued when it first came on Kickstarter, and after this video, it's definitely got me hooked. The inclusion of solo rules is just a bonus at this point, as I was more than happy to play all 4 characters by myself if needed, lol.
Hopefully other info or videos will turn your opinions around. This looks to be a great story-driven/thematic game with a fresh feel. I'd hate for any to miss out on this.
Managing 3 d6 and same board design as Mythic Battles...I don't see fresh mechanics. I'm always skeptical when people try to sell me on theme. Gloomhaven has "theme"...and it works in all other areas as well. This is a visual novel more than a game. I'm not saying that is bad or good...I'm only saying it definitely doesn't appeal to me. I'm not trying to bash the game because the people behind it are awesome...if it comes across that way...it's because I'm disappointed.
yeah just seems like a lot of overhead and not much excitement...
From this let's play i have a feeling that game is not about action but about story and even minis are not required.
Looks unique, but not for me. Shame because I love Everything created by Robert E. Howard.
Me too. Beautiful minis but weird game.
I love the solomon kane short stories, I love these miniatures, I was incredibly excited and really wanted to love this game but it just seems quite slow and tedious which is disappointing as I would struggle to find peeps to play this with having watched this.
puh, I love the setting, but I think it starts really slow.
Once I saw the NPC "boy" miniature it only reaffirmed my suspicion that this is more needless chrome from another KS project. I'd rather pay $50 and have them take out the bloated fluff. 90mm miniatures for the virtues, and they spend a majority of the time just sitting on the player boards? Ok... It took 22 minutes and getting to the second chapter before a Virtue (or any) miniature touched the board. 36 minutes before the second Virtue touched the board. Neither Virtue moved on the board a single time until 48 minutes, when the second Virtue moved (and was then immediately removed from the board), and the first Virtue that entered play at 22 minutes was still sitting motionless. I'm being slightly hyperbolic pointing out the times, because they are explaining the game as they go, of course. But still...
To those defending the game by saying it is focused on story and not exciting/action gameplay--then they should have made an RPG. Or, made this game without $110 miniature bloat. I mean, it's about appreciating the story with your imagination, right?
I think KS has gotten out of hand. Now manufacturers are using it to cut out retailers AND maintain MSRP prices. These companies do not need KS to "bring their visions to life"; they use KS as a marketing machine to sell the board game equivalent of BMWs and Mercedes (cars that are essentially the Chevys and Fords of Europe--i.e., not worth the money). I'd make the standard appeal to vote with your wallets, but this thing is already closing in on $700k...
But for the miniatures I wouldn't give this a second look. It doesn't feel like a boardgame, just a bit of dice management, resolving card effects and working towards tokens with very little interaction on the board. This could probably have been a $30 card game but as there is virtually nothing exciting happening I presume the miniatures are there as eye candy. This isn't supposed to sound rude, just a dose of reality and I am sorry to say as I love Mythic and Leo's charisma.
This was as boring a play session as I've watched in some time. If this would be a typical gaming session I think I'm gonna have to pass. The concept sounded cool but the execution seems tedious.
I wish some of the turn based stuff was more automated / luck based. This type of play leads to someone micromanaging the entire scenario. It appears that before every scenario there will be a 25 minutes discussion. Hopeful that the rules are still being worked on?
I know this won't be popular, but I just don't like this game. I was expecting more tension, more action, but it's just a procedural game. It makes Pandemic look exciting, to be honest.
its more about story its game to get immersed into unlike other games where there is more guns, moving, actions, ect. this type of game is more stop and smell the roses type game.
What story? All I saw was 3 people being alphaed, and very little happening.
first there teaching you how the game works, and second just pay attention to detail there playing through the whole scenario there just giving you the card examples of the story, they also said that the book will have more of the depth of it. did you even watch the whole thing?
Not sure what video you were watching, but none of that happened. There was no learning, just an alpha and no story, at all.
Seriously, where's the story in the game play, or are you trying to say the story is before and after play? That's not exactly 'rich narrative gameplay'; that's just bookending gameplay with narrative that will be skipped by 99% of people. Essentially it has as much story as Catan.
I like how you're blaming me for the game being devoid of story and flat out boring. I suppose fanbois will be fanbois, especially when it comes to kickstarter games.
im new to this solmon kane thing. second mister mc complain just read this update #14 www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/solomon-kane/posts/2215904
This entire video can be summarized as "Az tells Sam how to play instead of letting him play the game". Really wished I could have seen some of the things Az prevented Sam from doing.
Really seems to suffer from alpha gamer issues
Mark Horneff TOTALLY! This should have been called a "Let Me Play!" video.
Was about to add this exact comment. Rare to find a coop game that doesn't suffer a bit from it, but this one would be unplayable if you don't have an amazing group.
I am very concerned about this too. I have a rule that other players only get to help with a players turn in co-op if they specifically ask for it but seeing how this play through went I am worried that rule would get tossed out the window. I love he concepts and backed it but will want to see more.
Seems like it's really just a solo game. Which is OK for me. :)
Was just about to pledge and get all the expansions bundle ....loved the minis and was quite excited. Then thought i would watch this ...jeez that was boring, such a shame. So slow so i imagine a learning curve on this. I am an experienced gamer and put off let alone trying to get my non gamers to enjoy a game. Sure the more you play then the faster games will be, but who will be willing to sit through that as not a lot seemed to happen on the board. Too much micro managing which you don't want. Might consider getting them and using with another rule system as the minis are cool.
I just finished watching the weekender, and was wishing the let's play was up. Then I refreshed and here it is. Good day for me.
Az is the physical manifestation of a quarterback.
Cool panoramic art!
Glad I watched the video...HARD PASS
As I write this, it's a stormy evening in late October, how I'd love to be playing this game, in good company, with a roaring fire and spiced cider to drink!!!! I saw the Kickstarter trailer and I'm SO glad this game came to fruition! I have never played tabletop games, altho I've painted and sculpted a tonne of various gaming miniatures. I LOVE the dark rennisance setting. IMO, the "pike and shot"/ "flintlock fantasy" settings are sadly underrepresented in all forms of entertainment media. Not enough games like Vermintide out there. I am a huge fan of the OG Solomon Kane pulp novels by R.E. Howard, as well as the Purefoy film!
I'm hoping another lets play gets posted that doesn't feel as slow... I really really want to like the game, and the idea behind it is super interesting, but this was kind of a drag to watch. And its lacking a lot of flavor text.
Ok so, I need to find money really quick for this game ^^
I can see where the comments about 'dull and slow moving' are coming from, but I think that's partly due to the nature of the video being aimed at providing us with some context of the rules - hence potentially slowing down the game. I do think the game could be made more 'interesting / challenging' (and possibly less prone to alpha-gamer) if the Turn Order chits were just put into a bag and randomly drawn - (definitely going to look at house ruling that) - such that there is less opportunity to plan (alpha gamer decides turn order) and the game becomes more reactive as you have to play your turns to the best advantage of the (now) random turn order... could be more interesting I think.
This game is unlike anything I have seen before. It is also very different from what I expected, but I like how cooperative it is and how the virtues work in the game. I find interesting that you have to work for everything you want to do, even something as simple as moving. And oddly, it makes sense in this game. When you are surrounded by darkness you may need courage to move, and when you roll fear on your dice you can use that for a boost in strength.
The only thing that is missing is flavor text on the cards, but then Leonidas comes (42:20) and says that in the final game the cards will mention what happened. I already love this game.
I think it especially makes sense in this game, as you are not playing Solomon, you are essentially playing the guardian angels whispering in his ear, trying to persuade him to enact your will. It is presumably difficult to communicate with the mortal realm, even to one devoted as Kane.
I though exactly the same: I really like the mechanics but I found a lack of immersive stuff. Then, they talked about game cards with narrative text and a full book with a lot of details on the story. We will see!
To be fair and share an updated point of view, disregarding this video, the latest info from camp Mythic and Leo at their kickstarter page looks and sounds pretty sweet. However I haven’t viewed any other play throughs yet so can’t say much about gameplay. Is it more appealing? Is it not? Until I see more play I remain on the fence with my pledge. But Leo is doing a great job turning public perspective around. My hunch is that this is a game that will have a very strong niche following and with the latest updates it’ll get a good number of additional curious customers. If they add a starter set to be had at a much lower price-point then they’d have another winner imho.
Who knew board gaming was such dangerous business. Hope Leo heals quickly.
I do wish though that you had introduced the characters. Only Prudence seemed to have ever been mentioned by name.
then try rewatching the first 2 minutes because you must have skipped those if you didn't hear the introductions
They are also better introduced in the weekender. There is a fairly large portion of it dedicated to this game, and if you are interested in the game, I recommend you watch at least that portion of it.
They also take a much better look at the models themselves.
I love watching Az play games!
Good to see another game from Mythic which also has amazing thematic minis and boards but a completely different playstyle... where as Pantheon was a vs fighting game (primarily) and Joan was a Wargame (Primarily) this is a fantastic storytelling game which outside of a semi-tutorial let's play video is clearly going to have loads of story and fluff for what is going on on the board and drives people to work together to tell a story
Dreadful video
I think it's a solo experience at best. too much quarterbacking for my taste. I don't enjoy Pandemic or Spirit Island for these reasons, the debate and discussion about moves is tedious.
52:30 is it correct to follow the bottom behaivior (no shadows near), because there is a shadow in tbe neighbour area?
but what I really want to know is... what's the next game after SK? ;)
You'll have to keep an eye on our social media for that one
MythicGames I always do ;)
the concept seems super cool, but this is super overproduced.
What is that device Sam has his hand on?
Great video as always! Thank you for the video!
That was tension-filled and a pleasure to watch.
Did I hear correctly, that "Faith" acts as a wild?
yes
I thought so. So why wouldn't people choose faith when they were allowed to select a die of their choosing? Didn't make sense to me.
OK I watched for about 40 minutes - didn't follow the story of the game if there was one, didn't really understand what was happening - if anything. seems hopelessly dull :(
its more about story its game to get immersed into unlike other games where there is more guns, moving, actions, ect. this type of game is more stop and smell the roses type game.
Which would be the exact opposite of a 1930s pulp story from REH which this is based on.
Flip or re-roll...why would you ever choose re-roll?
is it just flip to the opposite side?
That's correct, Bravery becomes Fear, Pain becomes Determination and Faith only flips to Faith as Solomon's biggest drive.
know if they unlock the Spanish translation?
I'm afraid the current plan is purely English and French printed in the game but we are always open to working with communities who want to support the game in other languages. Az
MythicGames maybe can put a minimun number of spanish backers for unlock the Spanish translation, It would be sad to see how many people could not enjoy this game because of the dependence on the language, surely everyone would value the effort and concern of the company for its patrons
MythicGames
recently in the spanish Joan of Arc facebook group people were disappointed because Mythic games still hasn't shared the format of the rulebook, although before you said you would. The text is already translated by the fans .... but there's no answer from MG side, providing the format. :(
Angy E I'm sorry to hear this
Overproduced garbage, good enough for Yankees. Not for me.
How/when did AZ got employed by Mythic? And what is his role?
I got asked to join Mythic Games in February this year and my current role focuses on our Communication, Community, our Ambassador Programme and Conventions / Events :) - Az
MythicGames Thanks. All the best to you. I just got surprised all of a sudden (for me at least) to see you in a Mythic shirt. 😀
I was wondering the same thing!