Hed2Hed: Hellcat vs XDS-9
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You said they was the same hight basically not when you take the flush fit and put it in the XDS the XDS is way shorter and you didn't even put the 8 or 9 round magazine that comes with the XDS in the gun and then compare the height with the Hellcat I bet they're about the same so you're really only losing two rounds and I like a trigger that goes off no matter how I push it sideways whatever it goes off at don't have trigger problem I've been cleaning like you said also like the safety on the palm
The grip safety on the XDs is a huge advantage when carrying in an appendix holster. All that is required is to place the shooting hand thumb on the back plate of the slide when reholstering. Doing so releases the grip safety and makes the pistol much less likely to have a negligent discharge when placing it back in the holster.
Yes Charles, glad I have the XD-40 Service 4 inch, with all the noted problems of the Sig P320 having ND's in the holster.
This is absolutely True, I carry an XD-S and this is exactly the reason I got it, specifically to appendix carry and I feel better pointing a grip safety pistol at my junk.
THAT BEING SAID THO! The hellcat Does come in a thumb safety version. So while I would still prefer no thumb safety striker pistols. Just cuz the draw is faster.
If we were to just argue the safety of appendix carry, plenty of people who appendix carry a smith just get the thumb safe version.
My XDS9 has nearly 9K trouble free rounds thru it. Absolutely reliable...not a single failure. Earlier this year, I sent it off to Powder River Precision for some tinkering. They installed a set of their stainless steel pins, extended grip safety, crowned barrel 11*, and installed their 5lb carry trigger. Crowning made an already very accurate pistol even more so. Trigger greatly improved...oh. They also installed a provided set of XS Big Dot sights for me. If I want capacity, I carry my P10C; If I need a bit more discretion, I carry the XDS. It is a fantastic little piece.
I have the Powder River Precision internals on mine as well, and it was such a fantastic upgrade. Awesome gun. The only reason I would consider something smaller is the weight of the XDS. It's dimensions are great.
I'll keep my XDs 9. I ordered 9 bullet magazines to go with the 7 bullet magazine that came w my gun. The safety is the main reason I love it so much.
Thanks for this video, Justin.
I love both and carried the XDs for years. I recently sold it though and went to the Hellcat. The Hellcat will be my summer carry and winter BUG. When the world was a bit more calm I was mainly concerned with the possibility of facing 1 or 2 adversaries. Now the possibility of encountering groups of outraged people is all too real. I decided the extra round count was worth it to me. We also replaced my wife's Kahr CW-9 with a Hellcat. I enjoyed your video.
where do you live lmao
@@poki580 I understand if he lives in south Africa or some Latin America
I love both guns. For me, it came down to size. I have a more athletic build, and don’t see much cold weather, so the smaller XD-S mod. 2 (OSP in my case) is what I’ll carry.
My XDS-9 came with the 8 round mag. I ordered a few of the 9 rounders and I still like the compact design
@Harun Ibn Ray ...Is the 8 round grip extension same length as the 7 round pinky grip? Thanks!
@@jaimek9629no
I’ve had my XDS 45 going on more then 8 yrs and I absolutely love it. Wouldn’t trade it for no other ccw.
King Duke My GEN ONE XDS hasn’t had a hiccup... I have 5,6 and 7 round mags. Carry two mags is enough for me. A small slim 45acp can’t be match. I don’t even notice it’s on me. I live in warm weather... I’m not carrying daily a 1911. If I lived in the cold... I would daily carry a Glock 21 hands down.
I have the original xds .45 model as well. The engineers at SA did a great job. The recoil is very manageable and the gun is accurate and dependable with a variety of ammo brands and bullet weights. I have big hands so the 6 round mag is my first choice in the holster with an extra 7 round mag in my pocket.
HugoStiglitz I agree. I carry 6+1 and 7rd mag as well.
.. probably because you're use to it ....gimme the Hellcat ..cheers 👍
I could never shoot the XDS 45. Always shoot it low and to the left. I met other people with the same problem. I hope the hellcat performs differently
The introduction of the Hellcat hasn't changed my decision to edc my XDs 9.
And that's why Springfield will go out of business 😆
Yall will just run those croation pistols until Springfield is gone
@@BOB-wx3fq you are a dumbass
@@BOB-wx3fqcope and seeth
Thanks Justin. I've had and carried an XDS9 for a few years now and when the Hellcat and P365X came out it was the next shiny object I was actually considering. This video laid out the original reason I went to the XDS in the first place.
Looking for my first handgun, ironically I helped my cousin pick out his first- I told him to go to the XDM. He loves it.
Years later here I am, staring at the XD series amongst the others… the manual safety is just unmatched for ccw
Excellent review and comparison. I have had an XD 9 subcompact for about 15 years and it is built like a tank and very dependable. Im leaning towards the XD S for EDC
I'm trying to decide between the xds 9 mod 2 osp or a hellcat pro
@@unity454 Can’t go wrong with either. If you are going to carry, the Hellcat Pro is thinner and will conceal more easily. I finally went with the regular Hellcat for EDC and could not be happier
I've never compared them side by side, but the XDS-9 is a brick house. I don't have any qualms about feeding it with the hottest ammo around. Bring on the Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and Corbon.
I recently shot some hard cast Buffalo Bore through my XDS 4.0. She took them like a champ.
I have alot of problems getting hollow points to feed in mine. Maybe I'm being too gentle when racking it. I think if I let it just slam forward it will feed better
@@cwatson42785 you definitely don’t baby any Springfield they LOVE to be ran and ran hard. Which is the main reason why I switched from I rotate between nothing but Springfield and smith and wesson
@@tayallen7986 Yeah I love it. I agree about S&W too. But my new recent love is I bought my first CZ and I absolutely love it! It's a p07 and my first hammer fire pistol and couldn't be happier. Check out CZ too as they make some really nice guns as well
@@cwatson42785 I had the same issue when mine was new, don't be gentle pull the slide and just let it go. Also putting a little oil on the feed ramp helps a lot too.
While I can appreciate the engineering in the Hellcat, to me there is no better looking and more comfortable single stack than the XDs mod.2. I just hope they're gonna continue to make them in the other colors - I want an all FDE one BAD!
I'm a huge fan of the whole xd line. The only one I haven't been in love with was the Hellcat. It is a good gun and shoots fine but my favorite striker fired gun I own is my xds 9 original. I was expecting a lot more from the Hellcat. Instead I was just kinda left with a sense that I was glad I rented before I bought.
The Hellcat has a steep learning curve…I think it took five trips to the range before I began to like shooting it. Now it’s my goto EDC and a range favorite! But it still kicks like a mule!
I have the XDS in 45. Most comfortable gun to shoot, is super accurate, and easy to conceal.
Great video!! Love the XDS9 for so many reasons for CCW. 7, 8, and 9 capacity mags (esp for those of us living in CA where 10 is the limit) and the slim width. It disappears in any carry position. Grip safety is a plus. It's an A+ solid shooter. Good round placement helps with fewer rounds. So yes, the XDS is still a contender for many.
I have had my xds mod 2 for 2 years now. I have put several hundred rounds through it with no failures. I have 7,8,and 9 round mags. Love all the options for which way you feel like carrying. Good luck with your choice.
Just came across this awesome video. I have the xd-s osp mod 2 and love it. As a NRA Pistol instructor I push more for practice and training than ammo capacity. I have trained many many local police to requalify and most with 15-17 rds of 9mm can not put a whole mag dump on a target. I teach that every bullet that leaves the muzzel has a DA and Judge attached to it. I only need 8 rounds. I only will engage if I have No Means of Escape. The xd-s is my main gun to carry. Just my humble thoughts.
Great and thorough comparison. Your channel is one of the best on youtube.
Glad you think so!
My brother has a hellcat. I shot it and it feels decent but a little too small for my liking. Picked up a xds 9 mod 2 with the CT red dot. Love it. I carried a CZ 75 for a long time but damn does it get heavy and bulky! I still carry the cz if I'm on a road trip or something if I can't easily access ammo but for every day carry I do the xds 9. Picked up 2. My old lady kept the 2, 7 round mags and I kept the 2 nine rounders. I'm very happy with my purchase.
Those extra rounds mean you can't carry a Hellcat in some States, like Connecticut. Only with a 10 round mog, like the XDS.
Great video! I like how you don't rush like these other videos where they speak so fast. Thanks
I have the XDS-9 and wondered that very question. I also carry a Glock 43X with the flush 15 round Shield Arms magazine. That beats them both if you ask me lol. But I love them all!
What a great comparison. You certainly have me thinking. Thank you.
First thing I did when I got my XDs - 9 was to buy two extended magazines. I have large hands and the extended magazines not only gave me two extra rounds but a better fit. I don't know if it is a psychological thing, but I always shoot better with the extended mags. Nice pistol!
I've already got a Baby Glock. I don't need two. In states with mags limited to ten rounds, Hellcat has nothing. I own my seconf XDS Mod2 with an optical sight. Love it!
Oh, and I do occasionally carry a Colt Defender.
Well reasoned comparison. I carry a 9mm XDE. I'm older and racking the slide is much easier. I think the 8+1 or 9+1 capacity quite adequate. It's a little larger and heavier than the XDS-9 but that makes it easier to shoot. The double action/single action manual of arms give me multiple carry options. But the main reason I carry it is its single action trigger. Like my 1911's, it's a trigger that lets me hit what I'm aiming at.
Hopefully you still have it since it's one of the best discontinued pistols ever
Hey my friend! I think I missed this one. I am a Huge HellCat Fan/Owner and I think it is Fantastic. Matter of fact, I Sold my 2 Small Sig Pistols and I am thinking about selling my 2 Glock 43s and my Glock 42 because I love the HellCat so much and it’s sights are perfect in my opinion.
Regardless, I always enjoy your Work and you stay safe my friend. 🤠👮🏻♂️🇺🇸👍👏👏👏. B9USA Sr.
I have been reaching for the Hellcat more and more often myself.
First time buyer at 68 and I'm sure I'm buying a Springfield Armory firearm as soon as my R.I. Blue Card arrives.The xds mod 2 was my choice partially due to the price and good reviews. I joined the SA forum and the members there have convinced me that the Hellcat is the one to go with.My good friend who's a big time shooter says they're right.
Nice vid,clearly spoken and well put,with no stupid gimmicks.Subscribed.BTW,I prefer the hellcat;the width difference is minimal compared to the extra round capacity which is priceless
I have to agree on the merits of the XDs for the Bears with larger paws out there. I practice routinely with a shirt lift and grab in a panic situation. I carry and XDs in 45, ext mag. I practice this drill with all of the guns that I carry. I always find myself adjusting my initial grip on the ruger LC9s, my Glock 33, my ( antique) Gen 3 S&W 3913, but I always have a positive grip on my Springfield EMP and my XDs gen1 .45. Practice , practice, practice. Ive tried the hellcat. My fingers get pinched at the magwell, and my trigger finger gets pinched at the trigger safety. Your results may vary, but I am not a fan of the hellcat. Take the time to find someone that has one, and go shoot it.
I am a small person so minimal width is definitely a factor. I just use an extended magazine and get a total of ten rounds considering the 9 round mag with 1 in the chamber!
I have XDS in 9mm and 45acp I still have them both. I also own a 365. I use them all at one time or another.
The hellcat has a lot of kick to it. But I love my xd 9 subcompact mod 2 over anything.
Nonsense. Dont know what you are talking about.
Haven't shot the hell cat but yes I love my xd9 mod2...16rds just gets me hard
That is my knock on Springfields, MY XDE kicks harder than my Elite SC and Beretta APX!!!
@@johnleon2594 xde is an older gun with a higher bore so I am not surprised it had a little sharper recoil. The original poster is claiming alot of kick with the hellcat. He doesnt know what hes talking about. Unless hes just a big baby. Personally I cant tell a difference between the hellcat and the p365. People dont know what "alot" of kick is until they shot a lightweight 357 or 44 snub nose. Modern semi auto guns have spoiled people. Hellcat is actually very tame and super easy to shoot.
@@czwarlord9243 Thanks for the info. I just got a Hellcat but my wife won't let me have it until Christmas lol
My xds mod 2 40cal is hands down my favorite gun. Small compact and the thin wide handle is a dream boat. Less rounds but more reason to practice ya first shot at the range lol
XDS is also a great deal now In 2024... 9mm XDS Mod 2 OSP... with CT sight... 5 magazines, and a large range bag for $480. That is a huge value! Love your channel btw.
@@johnharris3235 I see it come and go online, got mine and love it so far, a bit snappy but just gotta keep practicing.
The Comparison, I Have Been Looking For! Thx Justin..
Excellent comparison Justin. Actually I like both of them and great video and professionally done as usual!
I now have both the XDS 4.0 and the Hellcat. They both have a place for me.
Well said! Thickness!!! The reason .380s and single stack 9s will remain relevant. My Kahr CT380, Ruger LCP 2, and Kahr CM45 will always have a place in my carry rotation. Why? Thickness!
With all the handguns I’ve carried over the years I think the length dimension is more critical then thickness. I’ve even carried a 1911 and a FNX-45 Tactial. I always carry dominant side appendix and length is so crucial for when you sit down, get in and out of cars, etc..
I love your reviews. You do an excellent job and are beyond NOT BIASED when you make your points. For me it's which one you shoot the best. Hitting your target during moments of high stress and loss of fine motors kills is a thing, so hitting your target is priority.
Folks if you are considering a micro compact, find a range that rents them. It took me quite a lot of money trying to find what I liked to carry. I finally took a 48 slide and mounted it to a railed polymer 80 43 sized lower. With a tiny micro comp, and a baldr mini it has about the same muzzle flip of my 19. I like the Xd-S but I didn’t care for the grip safety. But side by side that Xd is just so much more pleasant to shoot. Just my opinion
Nice video, and pretty much backs up what I was thinking when comparing the two. I currently carry a double stack Ruger SR9C, which has suited me well. There's times when I want a smaller single stack for pocket carry, summer wardrobe, etc though. Think I'm sold on the XDS. Might go pick one up tomorrow.
I've thought about trading in my XDS several times, cant do it. I use an extended 9 round mag, I just like that damn gun. I shot the Hellcat today, It is snappy as F. I carry the Sig P365, so dont say its the weight. I'll take that XDS over a Hellcat all day.
Having shot my XDS in IDPA while occasionally shooting my lighter LC9s, I love the extra ounces in the XDS. I haven’t shot the Hellcat, but I have shot the P365 which behaves similar to the 17 oz LC9s.
I love the grip safety! I don't understand what's wrong with there being one. If you have to engage, it's right in line with the squeeze that it is like it's not there. Who's firing without gripping it correctly anyway? lol
XDS mod 2 in 9 with a 9-round mag is my EDC. A solid pistol. Had been carrying the 7-round mag for 2 years and recently upped to the 9 rounder. A bit heavier in the hand (but nicely so); no discernible difference in weight or grip length on the hip.
I own a XDS 9mm and love it. I also have different sized magazines for it. It's so little and lite. I keep it in my night stand next to my bed or in my SUV when traveling. It's my second choice out of all my pistols. My first choice is my Para Ordnance P14- 45 acp. The ultimate hoodlum stopper. Lol
Other than a feed ramp issue with Hornaday Critical Defense - which I fixed by switching to Speer, I can't find enough wrong with my XDS to justify going to the Hellcat.
Yeah mind don't like to chamber that first round of critical defense. Never had any issues shooting it. But a couple times that first critical defense round hit my feed ramp ...
Thanks for the video. I bought a Hellcat, and while it shoots well, I guess the last 30 years with my 1911 Officers has me shooting that better, and have been considering a XD-S in either 9 or 45. Besides, with the current primer shortage, it won't be long until I won't have 11-13 rounds to load into the Hellcat.
I purchased the xds last year as edc, i have sig p320× compact but i fixed it up so i don't carry, it. Xds is a great gun, less recoil than my sig
Decisions, decisions! I was thinking the added weight of 4 extra shells and thickness of the Hellcat might be uncomfortable, however, having those xtra rounds could be a game changer.
I have the xde in 45acp. I love it. The ergonomics is amazing and fit like a glove
All excellent points and a great approach towards showing the true benefits of both firearms. I think that a very good comparison would pit the Hellcat against the Glock 26/27. I have a 27 which I carry during the winter when it is more easily concealed, but prefer the SA XDS-9 during the remainder of the year.
Really good job on the comparison!
Really good explanation. Thank you for this!
Well I'm looking to move fo Nevada and I carry in the 11 O'clock and 5 O'clock iwb. Looks like the XDs is what I should get. I can always carry an extra mag or two and ofc I always carry my S&W 638 as a back up should there ever be a catastrophic failure with my semi. Usually 3 shots is what a defensive situation ends up being. With my 124 grain +p golden sabers I'm confident I'll get the job done. I do love those sights on the hellcat though. Wish they'd have added a grip safety
Thanks for the comparison - For us in New York State, XDS is very viable due to mag restrictions...
I love my Xds 9. I couldve got the hellcat but didn’t because I like the grip safety. Also being a lefty i like the ambidextrous mag release on both sides. The grip is nicer too on the xds due to the contour and the overall look of the gun I think is better. If you cant get the job done with 8-10 rounds then you shouldn’t have a gun in the first place 🤷🏻♂️
I'm one of those who prefer a grip safety but only for carry. Right now I carry the Springfield xd9 subcompact.
Xds 9 with the 9 round mag. Problem solved
That's exactly what I have and I freaking love it
@@dsmred6575 that's what I have and love it.
Hellcat with 13 round mag... but I own both.. and xds 45
@@reesemch2o635 I have the XDS 45 love! it just wanting a more compact and lighter gun. I'm debating between these 2.
Love my hellcat
My xds mod 2 osp is amazing to carry. It came with 7 and 9 round mags and i know dam well that Springfield knew youd buy the 8 round because its the perfect fit. I bought 2 8 rounders. That 8 plus one in the chamber equals 9, just 2 rounds shy of the hellcat standard mag. I also carry an extra 8 rounder in my pocket. Thats 17 rounds. The ergonomics of the xds mod 2 are amazing. I do not feel under armed.
In my opinion a better comparison would be Hellcat vs XD 9mm Mod.2 double stacked
Perfect video, XD 9 with grip safety and 13 and 15 round mags, thicker grip for larger hands, is the gun I will buy. :)
..funny , the slightly extra thickness is why I bought the Hellcat..still a comfortable carry....also , not sure it was stated in the video....but the Hellcat also comes with a 13 round mag , so 14 round capacity ....to me the choice is simple ... Hellcat wins ...but , that doesn't mean the competition is terrible ...good video 👍
How did I get unsubscribed? I was beginning to wonder. I do enjoy your videos.
UA-cam likes to play those games. Welcome back!
I own both and love both! However i shoot the XDS better
same here.. also got the xds in 45acp
Same got the xds, 2 1911s and a glock 17 and the xds is probably out of all my pistols the one I feel the most comfortable carrying hunting and concealed carry and the one I feel the most confident shooting
Also my xds is in 9mm and I just picked up a ruger pc charger as a new truck gun
The Sig P365 XL is slimmer...it holds 15, just thought I’d mention 🤷🏾♂️
I prefer, and still have, the original XDS 4.0 9mm because of the interchangeable back straps and the longer sight radius, rather than the Mod 2 version. And as much as I enjoyed shooting the Hellcat, I still prefer the XDM 3.8 compact, even though it's twice the thickness of the Hellcat. And now the the 3.8 compact comes in the Elite version, well... :D
Choices are a wonderful thing! I reviewed the first XDS 4.0 9mm when there were only a couple of them in the country, but I had to get it back to S.A. quick so they could take it to S.H.O.T. show. I never did wind up buying one, but I really liked it.
@@JustinOpinionChannel It’s because of you review that I bought the 4.0. 😃
I’m always swapping both of these more so then any other pistol I have. Xds is a great work /yard/gym pistol, yet the hellcat is a great after work edc/ date night pistol. Both are excellent.
I agree with you 100%. I sold my xd mod 2 for a xds45, then sold that for the hellcat in fde. I love the capacity and the U rear sight. It's my over the road truck gun. I like it better for CC than my old mod 2 or my xds 45. Every good American citizen should have a good pocket gun "in my opinion".
Everyone has their opinion on how many rounds a gun should have. Honestly, if you can’t defend yourself with seven rounds two more are not going to help. It isn’t the gun. It’s the person who is shooting it
Situation to situation needs will differ. Having extra is never a bad thing, but you'll pay for it with weight and comfort.
Thank you for the review, it was just in time for me. I was choosing between the xds and hellcat and I didn't realize here in good old non-progressive New York you can't have any magazine greater than 10 capacity. I was also unaware of the politics involved with Springfield in their home state. Can someone elaborate as I am new and young to the party? Thank you in advance.
I have pretty big hands and the xds 9 fits better. The Hellcat felt tiny in comparison.
I've been carrying XDS9 for couple years now. Switch back and forth with that and springfield champion RO elite 1911.
"XDS9, is it extinct?" -- getting there, alas. Check Springfield's site. The only XDS left is the newly released Mod 2 OSP version, 9mm only, with or without CT red dot.
I prefer the XDS-45 over the XDS-9. Yet, I do wonder if they will use the same technology for bigger bore pistols.
Having a relative who had a ND when reholstering, I am even more paranoid about safeties than I already was before that incident… but I’ve also been in a position where I had to consider whether or not to draw on a group and the pistol I was carrying had a thumb safety that wasn’t always smooth (a Ruger)…. Considering the possibility of a safety not smoothly being switched to safe isn’t one of the things you should be considering when deciding to draw or not….. the XD-S looks safer to me, and if I’m fine with thick I have a .45XD mod2…..
Those firearms are designed and produced by HS Produkt in Croatia. They make the finest firearms in the world. I've been to the plant several times and everything screams precision.
Hi Justin, Great video and overall side by side comparison of both these Springfield pistols. I did notice one thing if you would be kind enough to confirm and elaborate as to what made you decide to make the change: It appears the Hellcat that you are using doesn't have the stock trigger on it. Is that an Apex trigger system? If so, what made you switch it out and what benefits have you realized in doing so? Thanks in advance!
So true, some guys start out trying to conceal carry a canon and hate it after a while
I keep the 13rd mag in my Hellcat for my EDC.
All these social media gun pages, and Yt channels with guns, and i do not remember anyone having a shoot out on the street and talking about magazines. Carry gun capacity is really just marketing, and a way for the factories to keep the doors open. The xds is just fine, just carry an extra Mag, if you live in that bad of an area.
I prefer the XDS 9.
The xds 9 subcompact has a 16 rd capacity. I like that.
Link?
HellCat for me. Just like the security of 13 rounds. And excellent concealability.
For me I got the Hellcat. I used to carry a larger gun but basically stopped carrying because it wasn't comfortable at all and sometimes hard to conceal. For me it's about having the gun on me and not left at home.
@@jaredlamb9824 Couldn't agree more. I also carry a spare 13 round mag.
Great video. I’ve debated on trading my XD-S (9mm) for a Hellcat. I think I’ll keep the XD-S for now.
I have both. I love both of them but the Hellcat is snappier. I can feel the difference. I like the XDS a little more even though it holds less rounds.
great review and perspective
Is there an aftermarket magazine without the pinky extension for the XDS
If I see someone carrying a 1911 as a defensive pistol, I’m not going to ask them for any advice.
Then u don’t really know much 1911s will forever be the lightest recoil resistant reliable pistol there will ever be
@@lanceadana4394 LMFAO! Yeah, okay.
Good points and defining of the merits
I've been telling Paul Harrell to make this video, but I guess he didn't care. You beat him to Justin!!!
And no packages of meat were harmed! :)
Nice review! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
In these times, capacity is king. People with bigger hands will have no issue with the hellcat. I feel like the thicker grip of the hellcat offsets the hand size argument. Also, the viridian c5l looks so good on the hellcat. Its truly the one I prefer. Just my couple cents.
The Hellcat is only 1” wide at its widest point, which is plenty narrow for concealed carry in any position and you can’t beat having the option of 11, 13, and 15 round magazines. The 13 round mag is only 0.28” taller than the 11 round mag and the 15 round mag is only 0.28” longer than the 13 round mag.
If you want maximum conceal-ability, you can load the 11 round mag in your Hellcat and carry the 15 round mag in your back-up mag pouch.
Or you want more rounds, but still very good conceal-ability, you can load the 13 round mag in your Hellcat and carry the 15 round mag in your back-up mag pouch.
Or you want the maximum number of rounds, still with good conceal-ability, put the 15 round mag in your Hellcat and put another 15 round mag in your back-up mag pouch.
For me, depending on what I’m wearing and planning to be doing, I switch between option 2 with a total of 28 rounds and option 3 with a total of 30 rounds.
Occasionally if I am wearing clothes that really don’t cover my concealed firearm well, like workout clothes, or if I just want maximum concealed comfort, I’ll go with an 11-round mag loaded in my Hellcat, and a 15-round mag in my back-up mag pouch, for a total of 26 rounds.
All 3 set-ups give you an incredible amount of 9mm ammo in such a small & easily concealable handgun and one back up mag.
Honestly, I don’t see any reason why anyone would choose the XDS 9mm over the Hellcat, especially given that the Hellcat is only 1” wide at its widest point (the grip) and the huge advantage you get in ammo capacity, with an 11, 13, or 15 round mag in the gun and a 15 round mag in your back-up mag pouch.
Maybe it has something to do with capacity bans. The xds definitely appeals to the non free states
Valid points with respect to capacity but… these are personal defense weapons, for that “Oh Shit” moment. Does anyone really need 16 rounds in that moment? I don’t plan on getting into a gun fight with anyone while I’m out and about. Honestly, my plan is to extricate myself from the situation and be a good witness. I think I can do that with eight rounds. Maybe I’m prejudiced by the fact that I once carried a five shot revolver as a backup/off duty gun. I’ve also carried a little .380 pocket pistol for deal concealment. Anyway, to each their own. It’s best to have a plan and it looks like you have thought through yours. Stay safe.
manufactured and developed in Croatia, by Croatian engineers. a great move by Springfield where everyone is at a profit, hs product, springfield and customers.
I chose the xds mod2 over the hellcat I didn't like the way it felt in my hand I can only carry 10rounds and 7 in many counties in my state so the xds seemed like the better option for me very happy with the choice I made
What about 8 and above capacity revolvers? Never heard of a cylinder capacity limit before. In MA here, i think we have 10round limit for handguns. Although you can use preban mags in certain guns, but for pocket carry guns the 10 round limit isnt a big deal. We have an approved handgun roster in MA, still need to get my LTC. But i wanna check out xds, shield, lcp22, and lcr22. The xds looks like a great gun. Have you found it too big for pocket carry? I love the idea of pocket carry. Convenient, comfortable, discreet if you need to be ready to draw.
@@connor3288 in ny revolvers have no limits just mag fed semi automatic weapons
I threw that 11 round mag in the trash, my hellcat holds 14 rounds out of the box. Double is a MASSIVE advantage.
For me it's 12 rounds if I'm pocket carrying and 14 when using a IWB or OWB holster.
I tried shooting the xds when they came out and just couldn’t shoot it well or justify the $600 price tag for the small capacity. Just picked up a fde hellcat and I think its perfect. Size is just right to carry, feels better in my hand and 14 rounds! Not to mention I scored a deal for $400 on it new. After the hellcat was released I dont really see the point of the xds.
the nuge maybe now, Im talkin about years ago when they came out. I think the hellcat is much better capacity etc for the price. Cant see why anyone would chose the xds when the hellcat is available now
Brand new I got my xds 9 for 440 out the door
People that don't like the grip safety should like it I like guns that have safeties that go off quick when you have a situation that are better than other safeties In Chaotic situations And much safer I prefer the bigger Springfield's and feel If people would buy quality leather Hosters Instead of Junkie plastic ones they would fit better on you and conceal better Which one is more accurate Of mouse guns
Agree, I carry my XD-40 Service 4 inch, so much easier to shoot, and more accurate than a micro gun.
I carried a Glock 27 for years. Then I got a Shield and carried that for a few years. I picked up an XDs 45 about 2 years ago and everything else has been relegated to safe queen status.
I have XL size hands and the XDs feels like a full size gun to me. But it’s not. I can hide it in shorts and a t shirt and it doesn’t print.