@@Krmeljso many reviewers aren’t using any camera at its optimum performance. They would need to use only that one camera for a couple of- 3 months minimum. Hopefully photographers watching to help sway their purchasing decision will realize it.
Seriously. Nikon never left the game since its inception! S range finder to F film to D1, and first Dual memory card and high ISO before a7s, D3 to Z they never left the game! Their touch screen on the mirrorless is way better than Sony. All these youtube reviewers want to get on that band wagon of Nikon after they bought RED camera. 😂 Dynamic range on their Stills RAW images has never been touched. You always shoot for the highlights on Nikon. YKIYK
@@kiykim277 YKIYK ??? Thanks for any reply. Definitely a bigger than usual push for Nikon lately. Your probably right about the Red purchase thing. If they get a chance to review will probably bring lots of views!
3:00 this seems misleading given the Focus mode is set to AF-S instead of AF-C, which will only draw focus once on each half press of the shutter button vs continously focusing when the shutter is held halfway in AF-C mode. I can't tell if you're unaware that you're in the wrong focus mode for the test being shown or this footage doesn't match your VO.
During the tracking demonstration you were in AF-S which isn’t continuous af. You need to be in AF-C. You were in AF-C for video and again that’s not correct. You need to be in AF-F. Come on man, learn how to use the camera before putting out a review.
I can't even begin to understand what this statement means. The Z8/Z9 has the fastest memory bus by far over any Canon or Sony camera. The Z9 can do 12fps in dual card write until the memory card is full without stopping or stuttering. Canon and Sony can't do that. The A1 is closer to 5fps and Canon just stops when the onboard buffer is full.
@@KungPowEnterFist he hasn’t said anything to contradict that ;) Might be English isn’t your native tongue. He’s right though, using chitty memory cards, will allow slower clearing of the buffer, not all cards are equal. You can find good info over at thessdreview
The Z8 is a beast. I prefer the screen it has. I don't think it's a vlog camera. More a camera professionals or prosumers would use. Hopefully the upcoming Z6iii will fill the vlog user needs.
The A1 and Z8 aren’t in the same price range at all. I’m not sure why this camera is being compared to a much more expensive camera throughout, even though it’s close on features. That’s the whole value of it.
@@alphaandomega2709 sure sure, it is a much better camera overall, go and use it, and stop trolling. Leave the Nikon shooters to enjoy the sun-par Z8 and Z9. We enjoy those over your R8. 😂
Great review!! but some things were a little contradicting. If it's heavy, it isn't ideal for it to be a vlogging camera. And the mentioning of resolution of the screen being lesser than the sony a1. Remember you said it is nearly 2k more than the z8. lol. Other than that, it is a great accurate review!
The slightly larger body balances very well with larger lenses, like the 50 1.2, Plena 135 1.8, etc. And some of us have larger hands, preferring larger bodies. Horses for courses, shoot what answers your photography and ergonomic needs.
I am still shooting with a D800/D3 with F mount FF non DX lens (70-200/2.8, 80/1.4, 17-35/2.8 etc. I am curious how well my older F mount lens can be used with these new models, especially in video. I assume I would need an adaptor for the mount and there is a crop factor but would I loose a lot of the auto features of the camera in video too such as autofocus?
If you use a Z camera, you can purchase the FtZ II adaptor to use your old F lenses. You don't lose much quality at all (you'd have to pixel peep at 200% or even 400% to really see a difference). Autofocus is camera-based, so it will work regardless of the lenses you use with the Z system. However, even though the old F lenses are great, the new Z lenses are sharper. Even the low-end Z lenses are very sharp already, I was impressed when I dropped my F lenses in favor of the new Z system. The S-line is very high end, just tack sharp. Nothing wrong with shooting with your DSLR, I had a D850 myself. But if you ever want to switch to the Z mount, you won't be disappointed.
I had a D850. Fantastic camera, I loved it deeply. I waited for the Z7.II to be released, hoping the prices of the older Z7 would fall, and they did. So I got one, it was my first step into the mirrorless world. I loved it, and saw myself using the Z7 much more often than my D850. When the Z8 was finally released I pre-orderered it on B&H right away. I've been using it ever since, and it's the best camera I've ever used. You're right, you don't need to put down your D850, it's a phenomenal product. I'm just saying, if the day ever comes when you feel like you could lean towards jumping to the Z system, you won't be disappointed. The Z lenses are even sharper than the older F lenses. 👍🏻
LOL, 5 mins at the park and somehow you want to sound like an expert ,you surely have an opinion your entitled to but have no clue how to use this camera.,
But I can tell you that the A7rV has far "better" autofocus than the A1. Yes, it's slower, but a lot "smarter". That means the A7rV will find human and birds eyes more quickly and more successfully than the A1. But for tracking the A1 is of course faster. That means if the Z8 wants to compete with the A7rV the af of the Z8 needs to be insanely good. I'm thinking of switching from my A7rV to the Z8 and will borrow a Z8 next week to check, if I'm happy with the af of the Z8 or not.
@@whitefordblueclark77 In the meantime I purchased a Z8. So yes, I liked it and more than an Alpha 1, because it is a bigger camera that feels great in my hands (even though it's heavier than an Alpha 1). It also supports features that my Alpha 1 doesn't like focus bracketing, pre-capture, bird eye af for video, supports connecting a hardware GPS receiver device, the 4k 60 video looks much sharper, the display is brighter and bigger, the CFExpress B cards are quite afordable compared to the crazy expensive type A of the Alpha 1 and much more. The downsides of the Z8 are the bigger size&weight (for those that like small cameras), the smaller viewfinder and the slightly inferior autofocus, but I can live well with it, if I use it differemtly. I use automatic eye detection most of the time, which works great in 95% of the cases. If it doesn't I press the AF-ON button and select the face of the person that I want in focus. The 3D tracking mode alwaays finds the eyes afterwards and can press the shutter several times while I hold the AF-On button. With this technique I have a near 100% success ratio of the autofocus even with quickly moving subjects.
It seems as if channels like this are lost causes when it comes to OM System and Micro Four Thirds. They’ve decided that full frame is always king and that’s it. Really unfortunate when 99% of people would be better off with more compact lenses. Especially when most people can’t tell any difference in quality.
I would hope that most people willing to spend more than $1000 on a camera, let alone the almost $4k that this particular camera costs, would be able to tell the difference in quality. Or were you referring to viewers being unable to tell the difference in the final image? Personally I support the existence of options, especially since MFT has its perks. But given how aggravating my APS-C sensor has been for years now in terms of limited framing, I would go full-frame or even medium format if I had money, rather than go down to MFT. Now if some crazy bastard figures out how to stick an MFT in a smartphone... I would be in there like swimwear.
@@virgilhawkins5680How is the medium format lens choices. I toss the idea up of MF every now & then & find the lens choices a bit limiting. That is where investing in FF is king.
@@virgilhawkins5680 I meant viewers not being able to tell in the final image. And in terms of video, most things broadcast on TV are still in 720p. Streaming services presumably are all higher but I don’t know if everything is in 4K. And even if it was also in 720p, almost no one would even consider complaining.
@@christill people already made a stink when Netflix tried to upcharge for a special 1080p and they rolled that back. Meanwhile UA-cam has quietly rolled out a special "Premium" 1080p and at one point tested restricting 4K to premium subs. People were pissed about the latter and they had to walk it back. As more people have gotten bigger TVs (in the US at least), 720p has become noticeably lower quality in a lot of cases. On the other hand, a lot of video is consumed on phones and tablets where it isn't such a big deal.
@@virgilhawkins5680 Obviously no one likes corporations squeezing them or charging for something that wasn’t charged extra for previously. Me included of course. But in terms of the actual picture quality, I’m sure it was only a very vocal, very small minority of people who would notice or complain. Especially once you’re over 1080p and you get into marginal gains of picture quality.
@benardjamwa2017 No issue here with managing the settings, you don’t need to fiddle to much to get it setup to shoot reasonably well. Further to this, my z-bodies are perfectly capable handling low light. Faster lenses are a great support, as always. Otherwise, where possible, off-camera lighting is a very handy aid.
The narrative that Nikon is playing catch up HAS TO STOP!
@@Krmeljso many reviewers aren’t using any camera at its optimum performance. They would need to use only that one camera for a couple of- 3 months minimum. Hopefully photographers watching to help sway their purchasing decision will realize it.
I've had mine for a years and the z8 it killer bro
@@Photojouralist123 what type of photography do you use it for?
Seriously. Nikon never left the game since its inception! S range finder to F film to D1, and first Dual memory card and high ISO before a7s, D3 to Z they never left the game! Their touch screen on the mirrorless is way better than Sony. All these youtube reviewers want to get on that band wagon of Nikon after they bought RED camera. 😂 Dynamic range on their Stills RAW images has never been touched. You always shoot for the highlights on Nikon. YKIYK
@@kiykim277 YKIYK ??? Thanks for any reply. Definitely a bigger than usual push for Nikon lately. Your probably right about the Red purchase thing. If they get a chance to review will probably bring lots of views!
3:00 this seems misleading given the Focus mode is set to AF-S instead of AF-C, which will only draw focus once on each half press of the shutter button vs continously focusing when the shutter is held halfway in AF-C mode. I can't tell if you're unaware that you're in the wrong focus mode for the test being shown or this footage doesn't match your VO.
During the tracking demonstration you were in AF-S which isn’t continuous af. You need to be in AF-C.
You were in AF-C for video and again that’s not correct. You need to be in AF-F.
Come on man, learn how to use the camera before putting out a review.
LOL !!!
Buffer in Z8 is subject to your memory card , if you have a minimum sustained speed of 1.5 gb card , buffer is unlimited unlike Sony camera .
I can't even begin to understand what this statement means. The Z8/Z9 has the fastest memory bus by far over any Canon or Sony camera. The Z9 can do 12fps in dual card write until the memory card is full without stopping or stuttering. Canon and Sony can't do that. The A1 is closer to 5fps and Canon just stops when the onboard buffer is full.
@@KungPowEnterFist he hasn’t said anything to contradict that ;) Might be English isn’t your native tongue. He’s right though, using chitty memory cards, will allow slower clearing of the buffer, not all cards are equal. You can find good info over at thessdreview
The Z8 is a beast. I prefer the screen it has. I don't think it's a vlog camera. More a camera professionals or prosumers would use. Hopefully the upcoming Z6iii will fill the vlog user needs.
God Damm right
Wow, what a spot-on comment. The new Z6.III, which has just been released, totally proves your point.
Only 90 minutes of internal 8K 69p RAW video? Total deal breaker. xD
Its almost like Sony/Canon paid for this video haha.
I've been shooting with the Z8 professionally for about a year now. With the recent firmware upgrade, the Z8 is a phenomenal camera at any price.
The A1 and Z8 aren’t in the same price range at all. I’m not sure why this camera is being compared to a much more expensive camera throughout, even though it’s close on features. That’s the whole value of it.
I actually prefer Nikon’s skin tone over Canons. It’s more natural way less saturated. Also, the Z8 is GOAT.
What is GOAT?
@@thomastuorto9929 Greatest of all time
@@rahuldash3332 thanks
Yeah, I prefer their color science and skin tones all the time and I shoot with all three Nikon, Canon and Sony.
The A1 is $2500 more expensive u can't compare the two man. Grab a z9 if you'll compare that to an a1
One of the Best camera ever produce and the best firmware Update policy 🙏🏾Nikon. 👍
The Z8 addressed everything that kept me from jumping to mirrorless all these years. A bigger, more egonomic body + good battery life. I’m all in!
V-Loging camera... Really 😑 the rear screen is perfect for what it is, IMO.
For $3500, this camera can't be beat.
Canon R8 has 40fps RAW with way better autofocus for $1199usd. Yes it can.
@@alphaandomega2709 sure sure, it is a much better camera overall, go and use it, and stop trolling. Leave the Nikon shooters to enjoy the sun-par Z8 and Z9. We enjoy those over your R8. 😂
Great review!! but some things were a little contradicting. If it's heavy, it isn't ideal for it to be a vlogging camera. And the mentioning of resolution of the screen being lesser than the sony a1. Remember you said it is nearly 2k more than the z8. lol. Other than that, it is a great accurate review!
A1 is $2.5k more than Z8. With the sales Nikon has been running, $3k! Just further proving your point.
Comparing the Z8 with the A1 is nonsensical.
The Z8 its such a powerful camera, the only drawback its the size, its still huge!
The slightly larger body balances very well with larger lenses, like the 50 1.2, Plena 135 1.8, etc. And some of us have larger hands, preferring larger bodies. Horses for courses, shoot what answers your photography and ergonomic needs.
How does it do for nighttime filming in really low light? Is it as good as a Sony FX3?
I believe when companies are desperate they produce the best products..Z8 would be an example
Halfway and I get it that it's a Canon ad.
A Nikon Hater >> He is
Thanks I am saving to buy this.
You won't be disappointed. It's a fantastic camera. 👍🏻
Perfect screen. I wan’t no flipout screen!
I am still shooting with a D800/D3 with F mount FF non DX lens (70-200/2.8, 80/1.4, 17-35/2.8 etc. I am curious how well my older F mount lens can be used with these new models, especially in video. I assume I would need an adaptor for the mount and there is a crop factor but would I loose a lot of the auto features of the camera in video too such as autofocus?
I'm still shooting with a D3 too. Great image quality and it only cost me £250.
If you use a Z camera, you can purchase the FtZ II adaptor to use your old F lenses. You don't lose much quality at all (you'd have to pixel peep at 200% or even 400% to really see a difference). Autofocus is camera-based, so it will work regardless of the lenses you use with the Z system. However, even though the old F lenses are great, the new Z lenses are sharper. Even the low-end Z lenses are very sharp already, I was impressed when I dropped my F lenses in favor of the new Z system. The S-line is very high end, just tack sharp. Nothing wrong with shooting with your DSLR, I had a D850 myself. But if you ever want to switch to the Z mount, you won't be disappointed.
@@HaggenKennedy Thanks for the advice.
Im Still happy with the 850
I had a D850. Fantastic camera, I loved it deeply. I waited for the Z7.II to be released, hoping the prices of the older Z7 would fall, and they did. So I got one, it was my first step into the mirrorless world. I loved it, and saw myself using the Z7 much more often than my D850. When the Z8 was finally released I pre-orderered it on B&H right away. I've been using it ever since, and it's the best camera I've ever used. You're right, you don't need to put down your D850, it's a phenomenal product. I'm just saying, if the day ever comes when you feel like you could lean towards jumping to the Z system, you won't be disappointed. The Z lenses are even sharper than the older F lenses. 👍🏻
LOL, 5 mins at the park and somehow you want to sound like an expert ,you surely have an opinion your entitled to but have no clue how to use this camera.,
the competition will be somewhat in the A7RV model instead of the A1 I guess
But I can tell you that the A7rV has far "better" autofocus than the A1. Yes, it's slower, but a lot "smarter". That means the A7rV will find human and birds eyes more quickly and more successfully than the A1. But for tracking the A1 is of course faster. That means if the Z8 wants to compete with the A7rV the af of the Z8 needs to be insanely good. I'm thinking of switching from my A7rV to the Z8 and will borrow a Z8 next week to check, if I'm happy with the af of the Z8 or not.
@@stefan_becker Hi. Did you get a chance to test the difference? If so, what did you think? Thanks!
@@whitefordblueclark77 In the meantime I purchased a Z8. So yes, I liked it and more than an Alpha 1, because it is a bigger camera that feels great in my hands (even though it's heavier than an Alpha 1). It also supports features that my Alpha 1 doesn't like focus bracketing, pre-capture, bird eye af for video, supports connecting a hardware GPS receiver device, the 4k 60 video looks much sharper, the display is brighter and bigger, the CFExpress B cards are quite afordable compared to the crazy expensive type A of the Alpha 1 and much more. The downsides of the Z8 are the bigger size&weight (for those that like small cameras), the smaller viewfinder and the slightly inferior autofocus, but I can live well with it, if I use it differemtly. I use automatic eye detection most of the time, which works great in 95% of the cases. If it doesn't I press the AF-ON button and select the face of the person that I want in focus. The 3D tracking mode alwaays finds the eyes afterwards and can press the shutter several times while I hold the AF-On button. With this technique I have a near 100% success ratio of the autofocus even with quickly moving subjects.
Learn to use the AF before you review
Dude we get it you like sony.... 😂😂😂😂
Filipy screen not ideal for professional work
If the screen flipped forward I’d switch back from sony. videographing yourself is just so much easier when the screen flips out.
So many bot comments… 😂
Grok, really?
Nothing new here!
$3000
All the information you are telling is told several times on youtube. What are you actually telling new? Vlog months too late.
It seems as if channels like this are lost causes when it comes to OM System and Micro Four Thirds. They’ve decided that full frame is always king and that’s it. Really unfortunate when 99% of people would be better off with more compact lenses. Especially when most people can’t tell any difference in quality.
I would hope that most people willing to spend more than $1000 on a camera, let alone the almost $4k that this particular camera costs, would be able to tell the difference in quality. Or were you referring to viewers being unable to tell the difference in the final image? Personally I support the existence of options, especially since MFT has its perks. But given how aggravating my APS-C sensor has been for years now in terms of limited framing, I would go full-frame or even medium format if I had money, rather than go down to MFT. Now if some crazy bastard figures out how to stick an MFT in a smartphone... I would be in there like swimwear.
@@virgilhawkins5680How is the medium format lens choices. I toss the idea up of MF every now & then & find the lens choices a bit limiting. That is where investing in FF is king.
@@virgilhawkins5680 I meant viewers not being able to tell in the final image. And in terms of video, most things broadcast on TV are still in 720p. Streaming services presumably are all higher but I don’t know if everything is in 4K. And even if it was also in 720p, almost no one would even consider complaining.
@@christill people already made a stink when Netflix tried to upcharge for a special 1080p and they rolled that back. Meanwhile UA-cam has quietly rolled out a special "Premium" 1080p and at one point tested restricting 4K to premium subs. People were pissed about the latter and they had to walk it back. As more people have gotten bigger TVs (in the US at least), 720p has become noticeably lower quality in a lot of cases. On the other hand, a lot of video is consumed on phones and tablets where it isn't such a big deal.
@@virgilhawkins5680 Obviously no one likes corporations squeezing them or charging for something that wasn’t charged extra for previously. Me included of course. But in terms of the actual picture quality, I’m sure it was only a very vocal, very small minority of people who would notice or complain. Especially once you’re over 1080p and you get into marginal gains of picture quality.
Still a weak AF compered to Sony Canon...and i am a nikon user...
Learn to shoot your Nikon proper, is all I can say, if you think this has a weak AF. You shooting with a D90?
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Nikon camera is not very user friendly too technical and so many settings and handles low light like an elephant on a beach ball
Say you haven't touched a Nikon without saying so!
Z6 II is the best high ISO performance body right now, if medium format is not counted.
@@souviksarkar2431 Z50 is crap
@@benardjamwa2017 Even if it is true, does it mean all Nikon mirrorless bodies are crap? What kind of logic is this?
@benardjamwa2017 No issue here with managing the settings, you don’t need to fiddle to much to get it setup to shoot reasonably well. Further to this, my z-bodies are perfectly capable handling low light. Faster lenses are a great support, as always.
Otherwise, where possible, off-camera lighting is a very handy aid.