If upgrading from dslr on a tighter budget, ergonomics aside, for a mix of event, reportage, action photography with a little video on the side would you put the ZF top of the list? From this video, personally I would pick the z8 for rear screen in line with shot, sensor shield, and ability to use do crop for track - effectively saving money on lenses. If Nikon could add smaller file size modes, like on A75 so you could should a downssmplwd full frame file and toggle a custom button for a dx file of about the same size, that would be great for events etc where you don't need 45mp.
* "the ability to do DX crop for reach" when 20mp is plenty. Talking of which, a "can you tell the difference on your phone screen" dx crop mode for photo on z6iii would be an interesting video...
I’m a serious amateur who has been shooting Nikon for decades. I totally agree with your conclusion. I recently traded away my D850 and the bulk of my F Mount lenses for a Z8. I already had a lot of experience with the Z6, Z7 and even a Z50. I love the mirrorless format and have over time put together a nice collection of Z-Mount glass. My one complaint about the early Z cameras vs my D850 were the professional controls , layout and handling. I finally found that successor with a Z8. If I eventually pick up a Z6 III as a backup to my Z8, my biggest challenge will be adjusting to the layout and function difference between the two cameras
I am a cash strapped Fensioner 74 and sold a frew things and got the Z8 >> it will never die as it hasnt got Finite Mechanical shutter life The Z6III has a finite life as it has a Mechanical Shutter = expense down the line
Even as someone who likes to start out with wedding photography the Z6III is a huge win. 24MP are enough for weddings and i like that its lighter than the Z8. If you consider that you need two bodies for weddings its very nice to save some money. On top the Z6III has everthing video wise you will ever need for social media marketing.
I bought the Z8 at launch and have absolutely loved it. Preordered the Z6iii as a second body and while I think it’s great, I felt it was too similar to the Z8 for me to justify holding onto. I decided to cop the Zf and it’s been everything I wanted in a backup camera. Having two very distinct cameras has saved me a lot of mental bandwidth when deciding on which camera I want to use any given day.
I have the z8 and ZF because I can shoot differently/ style, but still similar enough as a second that I don't get confused at events shooting with 2 cameras. Plus the z30 as a toss around/ video camera. If the z6iii was a 30+mp I would have thought about it. z6iii video spec doesn't get me.
Nikon has a winner in Z6iii, it's a well rounded camera across all board and brands, its so good that canon and sony are in trouble....in fact except you are into large mega pixels (eos R5 ii and a7 v) the Z6 iii out shines them all. Great job Nikon.
Evan - I'm a content creator working in hospitality, being able to get a quick pan/slide over food and drink then slow it down in the timeline to smooth out any bumps, and then on top of that punch in for close up detail is almost an necessity for my work. So slow motion is very important for certain work
@@djtoman6875 I don't know about preference, but at the moment I'm using a A7R5. I was Nikon but lost patience waiting for good AF that was easy to use. I'm happy with Sony as everything works well for my needs. I could possibly do with a second camera that has better stabilisation
@@markshirley01 I just got a Z8 and it's great for my needs. But you should probably stick to Sony unless you want to go through the pain of selling all of your Sony system gear like I'm preparing to sell my Fujifilm.
Sidney Baker Green has a lot of Nikon specific content. Very little is unique to N-Log you just have to set the color management properly. Watch every video by Cullen Kelly and Darren Mostyn to see how professional colorists work.
NLOG needs updating, and lots of shooters are asking Nikon for an N-LOG2 which I believe we will see quite soon, especially after acquiring RED. The Z6 III should improve with firmware updates.
I was in a similar boat where I was waiting to upgrade my D850 to go mirrorless. I decided that for studio work, I was better off with the Z8 but if I could afford it, I would choose a Z6iii for my event shoots. I love my new Z8 and am still getting to know my camera.
@@lee4160 If you use the mechanical shutter mode it will however, you can’t shoot the max continuous high speed with the mechanical shutter, at which point you will experience the no blackout feature. Also the Z8 can have blackout in certain setting.
@@waynerm002 thanks for clarifying. I have been debating a z6iii vs z8 and it's hard to keep all the details and differences straight. Ultimately I'm leaning towards the z8 as it feels better built and better in my hand plus offers 45MP for cropping which the z6iii simply does not. Low light gets a lot of discussion but I downloaded the z8 5,000-20,000 ISO sample images, resampled to 24MP and it clears up at least one stop of noise visually, so effectively making it close to the z6iii in high ISO noise (plus can then apply noise reduction if needed). But z6iii can't get to 45MP... Size difference on paper seems large but in person IMO it is immaterial particularly with a small/medium zoom or fast prime.
@@lee4160 The Z8 is an awesome camera, holding it reminds me of using a DSLR (used my D200/300/500) with a grip, the weighting feels good. I normally use my Z8 in Medium (25.6MP) setting, much like I did with the A7R V (26MP), don’t need the full 45 MP all the time. The Z8 does well in low light video, of course with some noise reduction applied, it looks great. I posted a video on my channel with some night footage recorded up to ISO 25,600, was able to clean up the shadow noise quite well in Resolve. I’m getting a Z6 III as it has the flip out screen that I can use for my YT videos, plus it’s lighter to take around.
I was into ”upgrading” from my Z6II to III, but then I saw the price here in Sweden, comparing to the added features and my usage… I’ll be keeping my Z6II, it does what I need. The quirks on the Z6III makes me more interested in Z8… but I can’t justify those prices for what I do. Thanks for the video
@panzer3279 I am not a professional photographer and use camera as an enthusiastic. I like to take static images (less moving subject). in terms of AF and image quality, z6iii is far superior to d750. Sharp and top-notch images. Almost no blurry images. Due to urgency, I bought z6iii, as d750 died all of sudden, and I shoot the whole indoor event without flash. The pictures turned out to be excellent. I wasn't expecting that I would be able to recover the data. However, I noticed a good amount of noise at ISO 6000 and then reduced it to 2500. And the images were great. I have to reduce the shutter speed to compensate the light. Between 1/80 to 1/100. Astonishingly, I hardly get any blur images compared to d750. One thing I noticed that compared to d750, the pictures taken from z6iii with 24-130mm f4 lens turned out to be top-notch. I used the lens adapter so that I can use the f-mount lens on z6iii. In the past, pictures taken from d750 with the same lens without flash weren't so good and were dark. In d750, i limit the iso at 1250. I have yet to explore the z6iii further. If you use the latest version of the light room, then with the help of the denoise ai feature, you can reduce the noisy pictures drastically. I have set the shutter system to auto as z6iii has the ability to use electronic shutter. However, during the whole event, it used mechanical shutter. I have not tested Sony and Canon cameras. Therefore, I do not have any user experience with those cameras. But for sure, z6iii is a great camera for wedding photography.
The other difference is the massive difference in the USD and other currencies. So if you live in Europe or Asia pacific $2500USD for a Z6III is costing too much when converted from the stronger USD. In addition, for example in Australia and because Nikon has bench marked its Z6III at a USD price point of $2500 American dollars , the shops in Australia are over charging customers by charging extra on top advertised American prices. So Aussies pay $4500AUD which is equal to $2946.15 USD - American dollars for a Z6III and this is just crazy pricing . Nikon needs to have a good look again at these prices in markets outside the USA especially in Australia because I bet they will not sell as much , once people realise , what other people are paying in USA .
To be honest, this is pretty much the same conclusion I came to on the two cameras. And the Zf. With the Zf being closer in price, I still stand by my opinion to go for the Zf for stills, for video get the Z6iii. If I decide to keep doing video after my 90 day You Tube challenge, I may upgrade to the Z6iii from the Z6ii. Then again, I find the Z8 to be too bulky for me to carry on the street.
I went with the Z6III, saved ~$700-1000, I haven't printed more than 24 mpix can handle and the size is really nice (grip will be added when they release it).
@@harsh90868 If you print bigger than 13" x 19" often, or crop your photos a lot because you can't get close enough to the subject, have to shoot things that move really fast, or need 8K video resolution that's when you'd get a Z8 over the Z6III.
I love my Z8! It is the first no-compromise digital camera I've ever owned. (I skipped the Z9) It has made my professional life sooooo much easier. But I have to agree with Evan about the Z6 III being the best camera for 90% of photographers.
I just bought the Z6III at Colonial Photo in Orlando, Fl on Friday. I also bought the Nikkor 24-200 lens to go with it. I am going to save and buy a couple of prime lens for it down the road. I'm going to the Jacksonville zoo on Thursday to try it out.
I am a Nikon pro and have....Z8, Z9, Z6, D5 bodies. I shoot mostly action sports and need top performance in low light at high shutter speed and typically 6400 (or thereabouts) ISO. That said, the Z6 (I am speaking about the first Z6) has as good or better a performance in low light as any available Nikon camera. The issue is focus speed. The Z8(and therefore Z9) have blistering focus, and outstanding crop ability, but just OK low light performance.....not bad for sure, but nothing stellar. The Z6 III is a poorer performer in low light than the original Z6, BUT has great focus speed. Looks like the Z6 III may have a place in my arsenal yet !
They have different use cases in my kit so the answer is both. The manual focus assist is better on the Z6iii than even the Zf. The extra electronic shutter speed makes the Voightlander fast aperture lenses even better on sunny days. Cheers!
Semi retired, photo enthusiast who has been shooting every thing (except event photography) with a D7500 & Z50 for the last 5 years. Wanted full frame, IBIS and a better processor than the Expeed 6. A year ago I held a Z8 in my hand. It was physically more camera than I wanted. Did not want the retro Zf, again not the ergonomics I wanted in a camera although the Zf did foretell what we could expect in a Z6iii. Put myself on a “preorder list for a Z6iii with my local photography store in late 2023. Have the Z6iii now plus the 24-120 f4, 14-30 f4, & 105 macro. Perfect ergonomics for me, blistering speed with the semi stacked sensor. I’m glad I waited. Looking forward to playing with 4K @120fps & high def @ 240 fps
My D7500 is a DSLR whilest my Z50 and Z6iii are mirrorless bodies. DSLRs are much less demanding for battery power unless shooting in live-view &/or video. The battery in my D7500, the EN-EL15B would last for days whilest the EN-EL25 in my Z50 would last the better part of a day or more, depending on my shooting style. The Z6iii is powered by the EN-EL15 C. I suspect the battery life with the Z6iii would be the same or better, as compared with in the Z8. I purchased a second EN-EL15C, so between the four EN-EL 15 batteries I have in my kit, I should never be short of battery power for the Z6iii : ) All this is based on shooting stills. Unlike with my other 2 Nikons, I look forward to taking full advantage of the video features in the Z6iii : )
I haven’t done a test on battery life with my Z6iii, but mirrorless vs the D7500 DSLR, and reports of battery life with the Z8 & EN-EL15C, I’d say less than 500 shots, and probably less than 400 shots. If you have a power block, I believe you can charge on the fly while using the Z6iii using the USB-C port. Please check the compatibility of your power block with the Z6ii
When I have shot both side by side they really feel nearly identical. Which I think is impressive on Nikon's part. Loved the shots of Seaside and Rosemary.
I haven’t done a test on battery life with my Z6iii, but mirrorless vs the D7500 DSLR, and reports of battery life with the Z8 & EN-EL15C, I’d say less than 500 shots, and probably less than 400 shots. If you have a power block, I believe you can charge on the fly while using the Z6iii using the USB-C port. Please check the compatibility of your power block with the Z6iii.
The EVF on the Z6 II, Z8, Z9 were phenomenal. To be honest, I cant really see a difference with the Z6 III. I like the low light, size, and weight of the Z6 III
I wish you (and others also) would stop saying that doubling the number of pixels doubles the resolution. It does not. to double the resolution, you need to have four times the number of pixels.
Good job. The Z8’s stacked sensor also provides more flexibility than the Z6iii. I shoot wildlife / big cats in Africa and so have both a pair of Z9 and Z8 from the first moment that I could secure them. We have been on one heck of a journey with firmware and the z6iii has benefited from this. I had to relearn my muscle memory in how I shoot action - luckily I can set up both my z9 and z8 exactly the same. Buyers of the Z6iii who want to shoot action REALLY should study the manual on how the AF works, set up their camera for success and build the muscle memory - particularly when handing off from various AF modes (area to 3D being my most used) and when to dive into single point.
Great video brother! I currently have a Nikon Z7 for photo and a BMPCC6k Pro for video, but I'm looking to upgrade my video setup. I'm between the Sony FX3 and the Nikon Z6iii. How would you compare the Z6iii and FX3?
Great video. I agree that both are great. I use my Z8's for weddings and portraits and just picked up the z6iii for my wife (2nd photog) and as a backup for when I fly solo. Used the z6iii for a couple of shoots and it's right there with the z8 as far as performance in auto focus. Great second body for anyone who has the z8 or z9.
I switched many years ago from Canon to Nikon and I've started with the D750 at launch and later I had the D810 and now the Z7 - primaly for landscapes and portraits. The Dynamic range on the D810 was insane and I love how clean my images are at ISO 64 ever since. For that reason the Z8 will be my next camera. But, kudos to the z7/z6 size and weight, thats appreciated when hiking with the gear.
Besides the obvious resolution difference, customization is the best difference. For Z6iii, no recall shooting function and you can’t map any of the U modes to a custom button. I wish Nikon would give it to the Z6iii which will make it a much more compelling option especially for wildlife photographers.
Great video! You didn’t mention (unless I was distracted😅) the shutter issue, though: the Z8 has no physical shutter at all, just the electronic one, while the Z6iii still has one. Did you experience any advantage in one of the two solutions?
Been waiting for a comparison like this. I am a z6ii owner but thinking of upgrading to a z8. For me it’s more about megapixels and resolution for about $1200 more. Also as a semi-professional side hustle shooter, it puts you in a different category with customers having a pro-body. But your comparison is challenging me….
I am with you on this one. On my side, I do zero video (old school). I have a Z6ii and I want a Z8 for 4 main reasons: 1. the weight ratio with a Z 70-200 f2.8 lense ( with the z6ii I find it difficult, the camera is too small ); 2. the way it feels in my hand (coming from a D700), the z8 is a FULL hand camera; 3. the added resolution for landscape (24 to 48); 4. the sensor protection when changing lenses on the z8. That is it. I think the z6iii makes sense for 90% of people and I am not in that group. I am keeping my z6ii, fantastic with small lenses ( like the Z 26mm f2.8, great for street ), but a Z8 is coming up for me in the next 2 weeks.
Nice overview, Evan. I’m curious what you think about the upgraded IBIS on the Z6iii. Have you noticed a difference between the IBIS on your Z6iii compared to your Z8? I do a lot of hand-held macro shooting and, although I prefer the LCD screen configuration of the Z8, the upgraded IBIS of the Z6iii is compelling.
I purchased the Z6III to complement my Z9, it’s small size and excellent video capabilities really makes it a joy to use. Ido wish however, that it had the same bank system and function button placement as the Z9 &Z8 to make it easier to switch between the two.
As an enthusiast non-professional, the only way I could justify a Z8 purchase would be if I sold off a lot of my existing cameras / lenses, and used the Z8 as my only camera. But, I actually don’t think I would want the size/weight/cost of the Z8 as my only camera, esp for travel. Also not really sure I want all my files to be 45 MP for storage reasons. The Z6iii is still a bit much for me, but at least I can hope it goes on sale someday (or Nikon releases a Z5ii which may be my perfect performance/price camera).
Great video! Being a hobby/enthusiast for a couple decades, I'm still working with my trusty D750, but thinking of possibly moving upward. The Z8 seems a little intimidating, in that most of its special abilities might never, or rarely get used. Your video has me moving toward the Z6iii, yet I like the button layout of the Z8, but definitely don't need the 45 Mp's of it, as in all the years of using my D750 I've not done poster sized images, and don't plan on it in the future, or if I do, it would be very limited. The ability of cropping, I see the 45 Mp being handy, but I crop with the 24.5 Mp and I'm happy with the results anyway. I'll wait a while, to see how the Z6iii stands up over the winter months, and make a decision then.
Although for my wedding photography Z6III would be absolutely enough I will still go for Z8. The main reason is that I already replaced one Z6II with Z8 so getting another Z8 is the way to go. The second reason is ergonomics - I prefer bigger body with more customisation options. And that's it. If Z6II had better AF I don't think I would have switched to Z8 yet. Image quality is the same apart from more mpx.
Thank you for the video. Based on what I learned from watching it I think the z8 is the right choice for me. Having held one with the 24-70f4 attached it is kind of the sweet spot between a full-size pro body like the z9 and a smaller footprint like the z6 series. Ergonomics are super important to me and the z8 was (at least for me with smaller hands) super comfortable.
While I'd love the Z8, it's very much out of my budget, in Canada it's $6200 after taxes, where as the Z6III is $3900 after taxes..I can almost buy two Z6III's for the price of one Z8. I've had my Z6III two weeks now and it's a great all around camera.
Evan, you spoke well of the features of the Z8 and Z6 III cameras, their differences and the best reasons to choose either one. I look forward to receiving my ordered Z 6 III. I have a Z6 II and will use it as a second camera at events. QUESTION: I am a church event photographer but have not used video. What kind of software do I need to edit video? I am not interested in using the highest res settings, just clean short clip video for our church website. I have a first generation Apple Studio with extra memory. Thank you, Father Dan
iMovie video editor will be enough for all the basics and minor experiments for a beginner in editing (it can do more but for basics it'll be easier to use because of its layout)
The Z6iii makes more sense for me, particularly because of the video specs for my documentary work and its ability to take great full-frame photos. The extra $1k can be spent on nice glass.
For wildlife, I'd love to have 240p on the Z8. Animals, especially birds, move so quickly, that I'd absolutely trade the resolution for more frames. Hope Nikon brings 1080 240p to the Z8 and Z9 at some point!
Thankyou for this review. You mentioned the view finder but not the 4000 nitts brightness which for me could be a real benefit as my eyes are not very bright. In bright sunlight or snow I struggle to see an electronic viewfinder because of the peripheral bright light that closes my pupils. I can imagine the bright viewfinder would be of tremendous benefit to me as I have Glaucoma. I’ve only seen one review that mentions this. I guess wearing sunglasses might simulate having Glaucoma. I might add that I’m 73 as others below seem to think age is relevant.
Thanks for the video Evan. You briefly mentioned the upgraded level of spec needed for processing / handling the files - what would you suggest for a Mac?
I was surprised you didn't mention the mechanical shutter of the z6iii versus the electronic shutter of the z8. I feel like that is a huge difference. In addition, I would have loved to hear about the UI of the focus of each compared. Thanks for the good comparison.
Thank you for bring up the computer part. Many people from GoPro to these Nikons then get frustrated that their computer can't handle the footage. And lets not get started on storage.
LOL! So true. Having RAW is nice but storing and editing 8K RAW will tax your machine. Stick with 8K SDR if you need to, still large files but the image quality is fantastic and no need to grade it. If you do plan on the 8K RAW invest in some extra storage,
in my country Malayisa z8 2nd used and shutter count 15K price is RM13,999 about USD3,000 and new z6 iii is Rm12,500 about USD2,700, so i want z8 or z6 iii for long future? now im using Nikon D750 since 2018
I definitely would’ve bought the z6III if it came out last year. I was waiting for the z6iii but got impatient and bought the z8 instead. Once again thank you for the info… question which one do you Prefer?
Panasonic S5II is $1k cheaper on sale and has a comparable feature set to the Z6 III. I use the Z8 and like it, but its size and complexity of configuration are obvious 'not for a regular user' signs.
@@johnvillalovos right. I was looking at camera with two lenses at this price. I almost bought S5 (not S5II) on amazon prime deal. How hard is to call cameras S5.2023 or something :)
@@realnitearthehe. Yeah I saw the S5 deal. Very nice price but I don't want the only contrast detect auto focus. I do like both Lumix and Nikon gear and own both. I enjoy the micro four thirds Lumix G9 and full frame Nikon Z62
I got a used Z8 for 2800. Current prices of z8 new is 3500 and you can easily get one for 3000. To me, used Z8 is the way to go unless you need the flip screen. One thing that was missed in this review is that the Z8 has better dynamic range. Having 64 ISO is huge, that's almost a full stop more compared to 100 ISO.
Dynamic range is no big deal.. no matter how good the dynamic range of a camera is, you still have to bracket for good results unless you shoot film which has a better dynamic range than any digital camera out there..
Eh think I’ll wait till the z8 or z9 ii. Doesn’t make sense to compromise on the evf af etc. plus with the acquisition of red we will doubtless see a z8 RED EDITION or something sick like that
I have the z6ii and then got the z8. Love both so i don't need the z6iii but honestly I'm eyeing the ZF now for my purse camera bc i love the look of it. That with the vintage 28 2.8mm or a voigtlander nokton and I'd be golden.
I don't see much point in this mega pixel war. Certainly it is important but not the sole attribute. Let's bear in mind the Nikon D6 which still in production is used by a lot of pros out there even today and I know for fact many wedding photgraphers have hung onto D6 rather than moving to Z9. Back in the day when D6 was the king in DSLR's a lot of wild life photogs produced jaw dropping images from D6.
I have a Z8 and just really believe that the Ζ8 is the camera for the pro cause it gives you the confidence that it can handle any situation and as a freelancer photographer i really love that 🤌🤌
I like the idea of the sensor cover because I do work in dusty environments and need to change lenses. Not having a mechanical shutter is also quite a nice feeling
I see what you’re saying. If anyone uses a camera the way you do the z6iii makes sense. Would be kinda fun to see you do bird photography or something that needs the resolution you talked about
view finder for the z6iii is not the best one out, maybe for Nikon but not in general. Sony and Canon both have 9.6 million dot viewfinders and the r1 apparently is like the biggest so like thats a crazy claim if Nikon said that lol.
Funny that you mention the price difference being so huge, when it's actually tiny - in Poland Z6III is 13000 PLN, Z8 is 16000 PLN. Much less of a difference. Z8 is the best bang for the buck on the market.
I own a couple Zf’s, as well as the Z9. Zf’s are great for doing street-photography on my travels, I almost exclusively have my 40 1.2 Voigtländer on the one body, and the 50 1.0 on the other - I hate changing lenses often, rather carry an extra body. It does look a bit dorky though, haha. The Z9 is great for my small home studio, an absolute powerhouse. Just yesterday, I ordered the Z8 on a prime deal, as I do have a Z6II here somewhere as well, but I prefer the larger bodies, and the z8 reminds me a lot of my wife’s d850/d500 bodies. I really enjoy shooting with them still, and from a short handheld test I’ve done at a shop the other day, I decided the z8 will be a better fit. It will be a great travel-companion to my Zf’s, but I will probably grab one Zf and the Z8 with the 24-120 f4 on my travels. Sure, the z6iii is a wonderful body, will be the staple for Nikon wedding-photographers, with great capabilities, but it is great to have choices at the end, and the z8 will just go better ergonomically with my larger hands. Plus, doing some wildlife shoots, always great to have extra cropping capability if needed. Thanx for a good video, Evan, appreciate your efforts.
I am not a PRO. Amateur at best. I have a D610 on its last legs. I've been waiting for the Z6 III primarily for the AF. I'm satisfied with the preliminary reviews on AF, but I do wonder about the HDR and some other niggles (focus peaking). But as I said I am not a PRO. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Z6 III, but with reservations because there is more than the body at issue. We'll see.
If you’re ok waiting longer, you could see what the Z5ii looks like. I “upgraded” from a D750 to the Z5 a couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Even the Z5 eye af makes shooting human subjects much easier, and I can actually use real time AF in video. I’m waiting until either the first big sale of the Z6iii, or until a Z5ii to see what that brings. If it’s basically a Zf in a Z5 body, that may be my perfect camera.
@@joshmcdzz6925 A stacked sensor is a relatively new technology, where the photodiodes sits on top of the transistor layer in the sensor. The most obvious benefit is it allows a very fast sensor read-out speed, but generally with a slight hit on Dynamic Range. It however is an acceptable trade-off for most, as the small sacrifice in DR is well worth the benefits of reduced rolling-shutter. Where dynamic range however is critical for videographers, they might probably prefer BSI sensors, but horses for courses at the end. Decide your genre, and pick your camera based on your individual requirements.
The low light performance and noise level on the z8 is really not impressive. I also have the first gen z6 and I can bump up the iso so much higher and still have low noise. If the z6iii can handle noise a lot better plus have the same autofocus speed of z8 that would be perfect camera
It no rocket science.. the pixel density size determines the low light capability of digital cameras.. so a high mpx has its trade off (low light is poorer) the z6 series all have the same low light capabilities at 24MPx
Would a Mac Mini M2 with 16GB be able to cope with the files as mentioned at the start of the video? Or what would be a minimum Mac needed. Thank you. Great video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Not very specific and detailed reviews, just water. Btw 45 is almost 2x times more than 24...and in the past you used d810 with 36mpx, so don't tell you don't see difference. Btw both cameras can record 125min, same as z9, it's Nikon standart limit for now. Also there are some difference in record resolutions and codecs, btw 120 4k in z6 iii is in dx. As i said, very little specific information, just water. Sorry. Also now z8 is on discount.
45mp is not 2x more , its 1,4x more , to double it , the z6iii needs 96mp , you should do some math. I thought it was obvious the 4k120 was in crop mode. The same as when z5 advertised 4k30 or the s5ii at 4k60 or the a7iv at 4k60 or the Canon r/rp at 4k or the m50 at 4k - you shoukd get my point now.
@@JJARCHIE sorry, we were talking just as simple numbers like 24 and 45, not pixels numbers. Also it can't be obvious, with that logic as sony a7 iv was 4k 60 cropped, canon r6 ii should be cropped, or canon r8. But they are not. So no, you should be more detailed. I really like Evan videos, but this, one of the worst z6 iii and z8 comparisons, looks as simple clickbait video.
Which one would you use? Thanks for watching!
Both lol. 1 as the main, the other as the second.
The Z6 III. 24 megapixels is the sweet spot for me.
If upgrading from dslr on a tighter budget, ergonomics aside, for a mix of event, reportage, action photography with a little video on the side would you put the ZF top of the list?
From this video, personally I would pick the z8 for rear screen in line with shot, sensor shield, and ability to use do crop for track - effectively saving money on lenses.
If Nikon could add smaller file size modes, like on A75 so you could should a downssmplwd full frame file and toggle a custom button for a dx file of about the same size, that would be great for events etc where you don't need 45mp.
* "the ability to do DX crop for reach" when 20mp is plenty.
Talking of which, a "can you tell the difference on your phone screen" dx crop mode for photo on z6iii would be an interesting video...
Z8 was on sale for 3500 + 10% cash back on Amazon... pretty tough decision vs the Z6 at that price
I’m a serious amateur who has been shooting Nikon for decades. I totally agree with your conclusion. I recently traded away my D850 and the bulk of my F Mount lenses for a Z8. I already had a lot of experience with the Z6, Z7 and even a Z50. I love the mirrorless format and have over time put together a nice collection of Z-Mount glass.
My one complaint about the early Z cameras vs my D850 were the professional controls , layout and handling. I finally found that successor with a Z8.
If I eventually pick up a Z6 III as a backup to my Z8, my biggest challenge will be adjusting to the layout and function difference between the two cameras
If I were 5 years younger, I would have opted for the Z8, but I'm 71 and trying to lighten my load.
I am a cash strapped Fensioner 74 and sold a frew things and got the Z8 >> it will never die as it hasnt got Finite Mechanical shutter life The Z6III has a finite life as it has a Mechanical Shutter = expense down the line
The Z6iii has both a mechanical and an electronic shutter. You may set the camera to use only the electronic shutter.
It doesn't get any better at 81. LOL
Great to hear that you're still going out and taking photos... that's all that matters! All the best mate.
@@Secession1900 That's what I thought as well, that you can use the mechanical OR electronic shutter on the Z6iii.
Even as someone who likes to start out with wedding photography the Z6III is a huge win. 24MP are enough for weddings and i like that its lighter than the Z8. If you consider that you need two bodies for weddings its very nice to save some money. On top the Z6III has everthing video wise you will ever need for social media marketing.
6k Proress raw is good enough for big screen production if you know what you are doing.......
@@beautifulcoloursentertainm8958 yeah you could do a whole lot more than just social media.
I bought the Z8 at launch and have absolutely loved it.
Preordered the Z6iii as a second body and while I think it’s great, I felt it was too similar to the Z8 for me to justify holding onto.
I decided to cop the Zf and it’s been everything I wanted in a backup camera.
Having two very distinct cameras has saved me a lot of mental bandwidth when deciding on which camera I want to use any given day.
Lol The Z6III too Similar to Z8 ja like a Ferrari to a small Ford Sedan
I have a Zf and similarly thinking of adding a Z8 to complement it.
@@Mr09260 nonsense
I have the z8 and ZF because I can shoot differently/ style, but still similar enough as a second that I don't get confused at events shooting with 2 cameras. Plus the z30 as a toss around/ video camera. If the z6iii was a 30+mp I would have thought about it. z6iii video spec doesn't get me.
Nikon has a winner in Z6iii, it's a well rounded camera across all board and brands, its so good that canon and sony are in trouble....in fact except you are into large mega pixels (eos R5 ii and a7 v) the Z6 iii out shines them all. Great job Nikon.
Evan - I'm a content creator working in hospitality, being able to get a quick pan/slide over food and drink then slow it down in the timeline to smooth out any bumps, and then on top of that punch in for close up detail is almost an necessity for my work. So slow motion is very important for certain work
So what’s your preference of cameras?
@@djtoman6875 I don't know about preference, but at the moment I'm using a A7R5. I was Nikon but lost patience waiting for good AF that was easy to use.
I'm happy with Sony as everything works well for my needs. I could possibly do with a second camera that has better stabilisation
Sounds like an interesting concept!
@@markshirley01 I just got a Z8 and it's great for my needs. But you should probably stick to Sony unless you want to go through the pain of selling all of your Sony system gear like I'm preparing to sell my Fujifilm.
I'd be interested to see a video on grading N-Log . Your videos look clean and the lack of content for Nikon is a struggle.
it grades as all other log files from other brands
Sidney Baker Green has a lot of Nikon specific content. Very little is unique to N-Log you just have to set the color management properly. Watch every video by Cullen Kelly and Darren Mostyn to see how professional colorists work.
@@brandonklemets2958 thank you. This is probably what I need, appreciate the guide/help.
NLOG needs updating, and lots of shooters are asking Nikon for an N-LOG2 which I believe we will see quite soon, especially after acquiring RED. The Z6 III should improve with firmware updates.
I was in a similar boat where I was waiting to upgrade my D850 to go mirrorless. I decided that for studio work, I was better off with the Z8 but if I could afford it, I would choose a Z6iii for my event shoots. I love my new Z8 and am still getting to know my camera.
Love my Z8. Love the no blackout shooting of the stacked sensor. For me, the Z8 is the perfect camera.
The Z6 III is similar with no blackout during shooting, both are great cameras.
@@waynerm002 I don’t think that’s true. It blacks out and is not equivalent from my reading.
@@lee4160 If you use the mechanical shutter mode it will however, you can’t shoot the max continuous high speed with the mechanical shutter, at which point you will experience the no blackout feature. Also the Z8 can have blackout in certain setting.
@@waynerm002 thanks for clarifying. I have been debating a z6iii vs z8 and it's hard to keep all the details and differences straight. Ultimately I'm leaning towards the z8 as it feels better built and better in my hand plus offers 45MP for cropping which the z6iii simply does not. Low light gets a lot of discussion but I downloaded the z8 5,000-20,000 ISO sample images, resampled to 24MP and it clears up at least one stop of noise visually, so effectively making it close to the z6iii in high ISO noise (plus can then apply noise reduction if needed). But z6iii can't get to 45MP... Size difference on paper seems large but in person IMO it is immaterial particularly with a small/medium zoom or fast prime.
@@lee4160 The Z8 is an awesome camera, holding it reminds me of using a DSLR (used my D200/300/500) with a grip, the weighting feels good. I normally use my Z8 in Medium (25.6MP) setting, much like I did with the A7R V (26MP), don’t need the full 45 MP all the time. The Z8 does well in low light video, of course with some noise reduction applied, it looks great. I posted a video on my channel with some night footage recorded up to ISO 25,600, was able to clean up the shadow noise quite well in Resolve. I’m getting a Z6 III as it has the flip out screen that I can use for my YT videos, plus it’s lighter to take around.
I was into ”upgrading” from my Z6II to III, but then I saw the price here in Sweden, comparing to the added features and my usage… I’ll be keeping my Z6II, it does what I need.
The quirks on the Z6III makes me more interested in Z8… but I can’t justify those prices for what I do.
Thanks for the video
Autofocus capabilities is a huge difference that doesn’t show up on spec sheet comparisons that UA-camrs seem to always miss….
which camera is better in that regard between these two?
@@harsh90868 z8 still has better AF for fast moving subjects
Upgraded my camera from Nikon D750 to Z6iii and i was blown away with it.
Any difference in image quality between the two? I know that the AF will be light years ahead, but has image quality and DR improved?
@panzer3279 I am not a professional photographer and use camera as an enthusiastic. I like to take static images (less moving subject).
in terms of AF and image quality, z6iii is far superior to d750. Sharp and top-notch images. Almost no blurry images.
Due to urgency, I bought z6iii, as d750 died all of sudden, and I shoot the whole indoor event without flash.
The pictures turned out to be excellent. I wasn't expecting that I would be able to recover the data.
However, I noticed a good amount of noise at ISO 6000 and then reduced it to 2500. And the images were great. I have to reduce the shutter speed to compensate the light. Between 1/80 to 1/100. Astonishingly, I hardly get any blur images compared to d750.
One thing I noticed that compared to d750, the pictures taken from z6iii with 24-130mm f4 lens turned out to be top-notch. I used the lens adapter so that I can use the f-mount lens on z6iii.
In the past, pictures taken from d750 with the same lens without flash weren't so good and were dark. In d750, i limit the iso at 1250.
I have yet to explore the z6iii further. If you use the latest version of the light room, then with the help of the denoise ai feature, you can reduce the noisy pictures drastically.
I have set the shutter system to auto as z6iii has the ability to use electronic shutter. However, during the whole event, it used mechanical shutter.
I have not tested Sony and Canon cameras. Therefore, I do not have any user experience with those cameras. But for sure, z6iii is a great camera for wedding photography.
The other difference is the massive difference in the USD and other currencies. So if you live in Europe or Asia pacific $2500USD for a Z6III is costing too much when converted from the stronger USD. In addition, for example in Australia and because Nikon has bench marked its Z6III at a USD price point of $2500 American dollars , the shops in Australia are over charging customers by charging extra on top advertised American prices. So Aussies pay $4500AUD which is equal to $2946.15 USD - American dollars for a Z6III and this is just crazy pricing . Nikon needs to have a good look again at these prices in markets outside the USA especially in Australia because I bet they will not sell as much , once people realise , what other people are paying in USA .
same in the UK, £2700 at current prices, it really should equate to the proper exchange rates.
3285 Usd for The nikon z6iii here in Sweden . It’s a ripoff. I’m forced to look at other brands
To be honest, this is pretty much the same conclusion I came to on the two cameras. And the Zf. With the Zf being closer in price, I still stand by my opinion to go for the Zf for stills, for video get the Z6iii. If I decide to keep doing video after my 90 day You Tube challenge, I may upgrade to the Z6iii from the Z6ii. Then again, I find the Z8 to be too bulky for me to carry on the street.
I went with the Z6III, saved ~$700-1000, I haven't printed more than 24 mpix can handle and the size is really nice (grip will be added when they release it).
so if i can get nikon z8 for $3375 and z6iii for $3025. Does it make sense to go for z8?
@@harsh90868 If you print bigger than 13" x 19" often, or crop your photos a lot because you can't get close enough to the subject, have to shoot things that move really fast, or need 8K video resolution that's when you'd get a Z8 over the Z6III.
@@harsh90868 Only if you plan to crop a lot, print bigger than 13" x 19" a lot , shoot 8K video or shoot objects moving extremely fast.
I love my Z8! It is the first no-compromise digital camera I've ever owned. (I skipped the Z9) It has made my professional life sooooo much easier.
But I have to agree with Evan about the Z6 III being the best camera for 90% of photographers.
I just bought the Z6III at Colonial Photo in Orlando, Fl on Friday. I also bought the Nikkor 24-200 lens to go with it. I am going to save and buy a couple of prime lens for it down the road. I'm going to the Jacksonville zoo on Thursday to try it out.
I am a Nikon pro and have....Z8, Z9, Z6, D5 bodies. I shoot mostly action sports and need top performance in low light at high shutter speed and typically 6400 (or thereabouts) ISO.
That said, the Z6 (I am speaking about the first Z6) has as good or better a performance in low light as any available Nikon camera. The issue is focus speed. The Z8(and therefore Z9) have blistering focus, and outstanding crop ability, but just OK low light performance.....not bad for sure, but nothing stellar.
The Z6 III is a poorer performer in low light than the original Z6, BUT has great focus speed.
Looks like the Z6 III may have a place in my arsenal yet !
They have different use cases in my kit so the answer is both. The manual focus assist is better on the Z6iii than even the Zf. The extra electronic shutter speed makes the Voightlander fast aperture lenses even better on sunny days. Cheers!
Semi retired, photo enthusiast who has been shooting every thing (except event photography) with a D7500 & Z50 for the last 5 years.
Wanted full frame, IBIS and a better processor than the Expeed 6.
A year ago I held a Z8 in my hand. It was physically more camera than I wanted.
Did not want the retro Zf, again not the ergonomics I wanted in a camera although the Zf did foretell what we could expect in a Z6iii.
Put myself on a “preorder list for a Z6iii with my local photography store in late 2023.
Have the Z6iii now plus the 24-120 f4, 14-30 f4, & 105 macro.
Perfect ergonomics for me, blistering speed with the semi stacked sensor. I’m glad I waited. Looking forward to playing with 4K @120fps & high def @ 240 fps
How is the battery life compare to D7500
My D7500 is a DSLR whilest my Z50 and Z6iii are mirrorless bodies. DSLRs are much less demanding for battery power unless shooting in live-view &/or video. The battery in my D7500, the EN-EL15B would last for days whilest the EN-EL25 in my Z50 would last the better part of a day or more, depending on my shooting style. The Z6iii is powered by the EN-EL15 C. I suspect the battery life with the Z6iii would be the same or better, as compared with in the Z8. I purchased a second EN-EL15C, so between the four EN-EL 15 batteries I have in my kit, I should never be short of battery power for the Z6iii : )
All this is based on shooting stills. Unlike with my other 2 Nikons, I look forward to taking full advantage of the video features in the Z6iii : )
@@georgeb6466 I get over 1k stills from d7500 full charge battery on wedding. Can z6iii battery give you more or less
I haven’t done a test on battery life with my Z6iii, but mirrorless vs the D7500 DSLR, and reports of battery life with the Z8 & EN-EL15C, I’d say less than 500 shots, and probably less than 400 shots.
If you have a power block, I believe you can charge on the fly while using the Z6iii using the USB-C port. Please check the compatibility of your power block with the Z6ii
When I have shot both side by side they really feel nearly identical. Which I think is impressive on Nikon's part. Loved the shots of Seaside and Rosemary.
I haven’t done a test on battery life with my Z6iii, but mirrorless vs the D7500 DSLR, and reports of battery life with the Z8 & EN-EL15C, I’d say less than 500 shots, and probably less than 400 shots.
If you have a power block, I believe you can charge on the fly while using the Z6iii using the USB-C port. Please check the compatibility of your power block with the Z6iii.
The EVF on the Z6 II, Z8, Z9 were phenomenal. To be honest, I cant really see a difference with the Z6 III. I like the low light, size, and weight of the Z6 III
I wish you (and others also) would stop saying that doubling the number of pixels doubles the resolution. It does not. to double the resolution, you need to have four times the number of pixels.
Good job. The Z8’s stacked sensor also provides more flexibility than the Z6iii.
I shoot wildlife / big cats in Africa and so have both a pair of Z9 and Z8 from the first moment that I could secure them. We have been on one heck of a journey with firmware and the z6iii has benefited from this. I had to relearn my muscle memory in how I shoot action - luckily I can set up both my z9 and z8 exactly the same.
Buyers of the Z6iii who want to shoot action REALLY should study the manual on how the AF works, set up their camera for success and build the muscle memory - particularly when handing off from various AF modes (area to 3D being my most used) and when to dive into single point.
Great video brother! I currently have a Nikon Z7 for photo and a BMPCC6k Pro for video, but I'm looking to upgrade my video setup. I'm between the Sony FX3 and the Nikon Z6iii. How would you compare the Z6iii and FX3?
Great video. I agree that both are great. I use my Z8's for weddings and portraits and just picked up the z6iii for my wife (2nd photog) and as a backup for when I fly solo. Used the z6iii for a couple of shoots and it's right there with the z8 as far as performance in auto focus. Great second body for anyone who has the z8 or z9.
I have the Z8 and plan on getting the Z6III as a second body.
What site has the z6iii? It's hard to find any in stock.
I switched many years ago from Canon to Nikon and I've started with the D750 at launch and later I had the D810 and now the Z7 - primaly for landscapes and portraits. The Dynamic range on the D810 was insane and I love how clean my images are at ISO 64 ever since. For that reason the Z8 will be my next camera. But, kudos to the z7/z6 size and weight, thats appreciated when hiking with the gear.
Besides the obvious resolution difference, customization is the best difference. For Z6iii, no recall shooting function and you can’t map any of the U modes to a custom button. I wish Nikon would give it to the Z6iii which will make it a much more compelling option especially for wildlife photographers.
Great video! You didn’t mention (unless I was distracted😅) the shutter issue, though: the Z8 has no physical shutter at all, just the electronic one, while the Z6iii still has one. Did you experience any advantage in one of the two solutions?
I have MAJOR banding issues when using the z8 in HSS and trying to freeze sports action with flash. Does the z6iii have any issues?
Been waiting for a comparison like this. I am a z6ii owner but thinking of upgrading to a z8. For me it’s more about megapixels and resolution for about $1200 more. Also as a semi-professional side hustle shooter, it puts you in a different category with customers having a pro-body. But your comparison is challenging me….
I am with you on this one. On my side, I do zero video (old school). I have a Z6ii and I want a Z8 for 4 main reasons: 1. the weight ratio with a Z 70-200 f2.8 lense ( with the z6ii I find it difficult, the camera is too small ); 2. the way it feels in my hand (coming from a D700), the z8 is a FULL hand camera; 3. the added resolution for landscape (24 to 48); 4. the sensor protection when changing lenses on the z8. That is it. I think the z6iii makes sense for 90% of people and I am not in that group. I am keeping my z6ii, fantastic with small lenses ( like the Z 26mm f2.8, great for street ), but a Z8 is coming up for me in the next 2 weeks.
Nice overview, Evan. I’m curious what you think about the upgraded IBIS on the Z6iii. Have you noticed a difference between the IBIS on your Z6iii compared to your Z8? I do a lot of hand-held macro shooting and, although I prefer the LCD screen configuration of the Z8, the upgraded IBIS of the Z6iii is compelling.
I purchased the Z6III to complement my Z9, it’s small size and excellent video capabilities really makes it a joy to use. Ido wish however, that it had the same bank system and function button placement as the Z9 &Z8 to make it easier to switch between the two.
As an enthusiast non-professional, the only way I could justify a Z8 purchase would be if I sold off a lot of my existing cameras / lenses, and used the Z8 as my only camera. But, I actually don’t think I would want the size/weight/cost of the Z8 as my only camera, esp for travel. Also not really sure I want all my files to be 45 MP for storage reasons. The Z6iii is still a bit much for me, but at least I can hope it goes on sale someday (or Nikon releases a Z5ii which may be my perfect performance/price camera).
Great video! Being a hobby/enthusiast for a couple decades, I'm still working with my trusty D750, but thinking of possibly moving upward. The Z8 seems a little intimidating, in that most of its special abilities might never, or rarely get used. Your video has me moving toward the Z6iii, yet I like the button layout of the Z8, but definitely don't need the 45 Mp's of it, as in all the years of using my D750 I've not done poster sized images, and don't plan on it in the future, or if I do, it would be very limited. The ability of cropping, I see the 45 Mp being handy, but I crop with the 24.5 Mp and I'm happy with the results anyway. I'll wait a while, to see how the Z6iii stands up over the winter months, and make a decision then.
Although for my wedding photography Z6III would be absolutely enough I will still go for Z8. The main reason is that I already replaced one Z6II with Z8 so getting another Z8 is the way to go. The second reason is ergonomics - I prefer bigger body with more customisation options. And that's it. If Z6II had better AF I don't think I would have switched to Z8 yet. Image quality is the same apart from more mpx.
Thank you for the video. Based on what I learned from watching it I think the z8 is the right choice for me. Having held one with the 24-70f4 attached it is kind of the sweet spot between a full-size pro body like the z9 and a smaller footprint like the z6 series. Ergonomics are super important to me and the z8 was (at least for me with smaller hands) super comfortable.
While I'd love the Z8, it's very much out of my budget, in Canada it's $6200 after taxes, where as the Z6III is $3900 after taxes..I can almost buy two Z6III's for the price of one Z8.
I've had my Z6III two weeks now and it's a great all around camera.
Am I the only one that liked the playback button on top left instead of bottom right?
I always remap it to one of the front FN buttons.
nice, how about the "problem" of z6 iii with video and noise in dark areas?
Evan, you spoke well of the features of the Z8 and Z6 III cameras, their differences and the best reasons to choose either one. I look forward to receiving my ordered Z 6 III. I have a Z6 II and will use it as a second camera at events.
QUESTION: I am a church event photographer but have not used video. What kind of software do I need to edit video? I am not interested in using the highest res settings, just clean short clip video for our church website. I have a first generation Apple Studio with extra memory.
Thank you, Father Dan
iMovie video editor will be enough for all the basics and minor experiments for a beginner in editing (it can do more but for basics it'll be easier to use because of its layout)
There are are 2 dimensions to a sensor. To double the resolution of 24 megapixel sensor, you have to go to 96 megapixels.
5:10 I know people who love 24mp canons like the R3 for birds. Lens, AF, and preparation matters more than the pixelcount.
The Z6iii makes more sense for me, particularly because of the video specs for my documentary work and its ability to take great full-frame photos. The extra $1k can be spent on nice glass.
For wildlife, I'd love to have 240p on the Z8.
Animals, especially birds, move so quickly, that I'd absolutely trade the resolution for more frames. Hope Nikon brings 1080 240p to the Z8 and Z9 at some point!
Thankyou for this review. You mentioned the view finder but not the 4000 nitts brightness which for me could be a real benefit as my eyes are not very bright. In bright sunlight or snow I struggle to see an electronic viewfinder because of the peripheral bright light that closes my pupils. I can imagine the bright viewfinder would be of tremendous benefit to me as I have Glaucoma. I’ve only seen one review that mentions this. I guess wearing sunglasses might simulate having Glaucoma. I might add that I’m 73 as others below seem to think age is relevant.
informative comparison, thanks Evan!
I preferred the Z8 images and video for some 'intangible' feeling
Thanks for the video Evan. You briefly mentioned the upgraded level of spec needed for processing / handling the files - what would you suggest for a Mac?
4k 120 in Nikon Z6iii is in DX mode right?
z6iii and z9 is my dream setup. z6 for videography and z9 for stills
I was surprised you didn't mention the mechanical shutter of the z6iii versus the electronic shutter of the z8. I feel like that is a huge difference. In addition, I would have loved to hear about the UI of the focus of each compared. Thanks for the good comparison.
The Z6iii contains both an electronic shutter and a mechanical shutter. The camera may be set to use the electronic shutter only.
Thank you for bring up the computer part. Many people from GoPro to these Nikons then get frustrated that their computer can't handle the footage. And lets not get started on storage.
LOL! So true. Having RAW is nice but storing and editing 8K RAW will tax your machine. Stick with 8K SDR if you need to, still large files but the image quality is fantastic and no need to grade it. If you do plan on the 8K RAW invest in some extra storage,
I'm not fan of articulating screen. So z8.
I'm with you that point. I don't know if I can get use to that.
i am still z8😁
in my country Malayisa z8 2nd used and shutter count 15K price is RM13,999 about USD3,000 and new z6 iii is Rm12,500 about USD2,700, so i want z8 or z6 iii for long future? now im using Nikon D750 since 2018
Which one would you go for food photography and live music photography? Thanks for the great video
24.5 megapixels are enough for food so go ahead!
Have you done a review or comparison of the Z9 as well?
I definitely would’ve bought the z6III if it came out last year. I was waiting for the z6iii but got impatient and bought the z8 instead. Once again thank you for the info… question which one do you Prefer?
I got both. They really work well together
Panasonic S5II is $1k cheaper on sale and has a comparable feature set to the Z6 III. I use the Z8 and like it, but its size and complexity of configuration are obvious 'not for a regular user' signs.
I see the S5ii as $800 cheaper on sale at $1,700. The Z6iii is $2,500. Eventually the Z6iii will go on sale too.
@@johnvillalovos right. I was looking at camera with two lenses at this price. I almost bought S5 (not S5II) on amazon prime deal. How hard is to call cameras S5.2023 or something :)
@@realnitearthehe. Yeah I saw the S5 deal. Very nice price but I don't want the only contrast detect auto focus. I do like both Lumix and Nikon gear and own both. I enjoy the micro four thirds Lumix G9 and full frame Nikon Z62
6k30 only , no 4k120 and 4k60 cropped and no internal raw is quite a big difference.
Oh and close to double the rolling shutter aswell.
Starting @1:55, does the z6 iii look more washed out? I am looking at the 1996 text and everything else on the sweater.
Nikon Z6iii vs. Nikon Z8 Rolling Shutter on videos pls, any good 6k and 8k on both?
I got a used Z8 for 2800. Current prices of z8 new is 3500 and you can easily get one for 3000. To me, used Z8 is the way to go unless you need the flip screen. One thing that was missed in this review is that the Z8 has better dynamic range. Having 64 ISO is huge, that's almost a full stop more compared to 100 ISO.
@@cinemaheist8 also using bright lenses at day, also max shutter speed is 32k. This video misses a lot of information.
Dynamic range is no big deal.. no matter how good the dynamic range of a camera is, you still have to bracket for good results unless you shoot film which has a better dynamic range than any digital camera out there..
Eh think I’ll wait till the z8 or z9 ii. Doesn’t make sense to compromise on the evf af etc. plus with the acquisition of red we will doubtless see a z8 RED EDITION or something sick like that
I have the z6ii and then got the z8. Love both so i don't need the z6iii but honestly I'm eyeing the ZF now for my purse camera bc i love the look of it. That with the vintage 28 2.8mm or a voigtlander nokton and I'd be golden.
I have a Zfc for my walk around camera and love it. I wish I would have waited and bought the Zf.
I don't see much point in this mega pixel war. Certainly it is important but not the sole attribute. Let's bear in mind the Nikon D6 which still in production is used by a lot of pros out there even today and I know for fact many wedding photgraphers have hung onto D6 rather than moving to Z9. Back in the day when D6 was the king in DSLR's a lot of wild life photogs produced jaw dropping images from D6.
I have a Z8 and just really believe that the Ζ8 is the camera for the pro cause it gives you the confidence that it can handle any situation and as a freelancer photographer i really love that 🤌🤌
I like the idea of the sensor cover because I do work in dusty environments and need to change lenses. Not having a mechanical shutter is also quite a nice feeling
@@markshirley01 Yeah you cant gloss over the sensor shield. I love that feature and I don't want to go back to not having it.
If am wondering if I became a beach 🏝️ photographer the z8 with the sensor shield might be a safer bet. 😂
I see what you’re saying. If anyone uses a camera the way you do the z6iii makes sense. Would be kinda fun to see you do bird photography or something that needs the resolution you talked about
you can do bird fine on either cam if you know what youre doing
I went with the z6III and love it
view finder for the z6iii is not the best one out, maybe for Nikon but not in general. Sony and Canon both have 9.6 million dot viewfinders and the r1 apparently is like the biggest so like thats a crazy claim if Nikon said that lol.
Funny that you mention the price difference being so huge, when it's actually tiny - in Poland Z6III is 13000 PLN, Z8 is 16000 PLN. Much less of a difference. Z8 is the best bang for the buck on the market.
I'm In Australia how can I order the lightroom software?
I own a couple Zf’s, as well as the Z9. Zf’s are great for doing street-photography on my travels, I almost exclusively have my 40 1.2 Voigtländer on the one body, and the 50 1.0 on the other - I hate changing lenses often, rather carry an extra body. It does look a bit dorky though, haha.
The Z9 is great for my small home studio, an absolute powerhouse. Just yesterday, I ordered the Z8 on a prime deal, as I do have a Z6II here somewhere as well, but I prefer the larger bodies, and the z8 reminds me a lot of my wife’s d850/d500 bodies. I really enjoy shooting with them still, and from a short handheld test I’ve done at a shop the other day, I decided the z8 will be a better fit. It will be a great travel-companion to my Zf’s, but I will probably grab one Zf and the Z8 with the 24-120 f4 on my travels.
Sure, the z6iii is a wonderful body, will be the staple for Nikon wedding-photographers, with great capabilities, but it is great to have choices at the end, and the z8 will just go better ergonomically with my larger hands. Plus, doing some wildlife shoots, always great to have extra cropping capability if needed.
Thanx for a good video, Evan, appreciate your efforts.
Great video!
Are those images with the 24-70 2.8S?
I am not a PRO. Amateur at best. I have a D610 on its last legs. I've been waiting for the Z6 III primarily for the AF. I'm satisfied with the preliminary reviews on AF, but I do wonder about the HDR and some other niggles (focus peaking). But as I said I am not a PRO. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Z6 III, but with reservations because there is more than the body at issue. We'll see.
If you’re ok waiting longer, you could see what the Z5ii looks like. I “upgraded” from a D750 to the Z5 a couple years ago and haven’t looked back. Even the Z5 eye af makes shooting human subjects much easier, and I can actually use real time AF in video. I’m waiting until either the first big sale of the Z6iii, or until a Z5ii to see what that brings. If it’s basically a Zf in a Z5 body, that may be my perfect camera.
Surprised not to see anything about the stacked sensors. Seems like an important topic that wasn’t covered.
What is stack sensor?
@@joshmcdzz6925 A stacked sensor is a relatively new technology, where the photodiodes sits on top of the transistor layer in the sensor. The most obvious benefit is it allows a very fast sensor read-out speed, but generally with a slight hit on Dynamic Range.
It however is an acceptable trade-off for most, as the small sacrifice in DR is well worth the benefits of reduced rolling-shutter. Where dynamic range however is critical for videographers, they might probably prefer BSI sensors, but horses for courses at the end.
Decide your genre, and pick your camera based on your individual requirements.
i love my z8 and my z6ii -- my z6 was a letdown. Do i need a z6iii? Naw i think i'm done buying camera bodies
Does the z8 have u1 and u2 mode? Pls answer
The Z8 has shooting banks instead. It’s a kinda similar concept but allows for more customization
@@romanpul thank you. I bought it last week and I am very happy with its performance.
I have a Z8 and love it. I might get a z6iii also
The low light performance and noise level on the z8 is really not impressive. I also have the first gen z6 and I can bump up the iso so much higher and still have low noise. If the z6iii can handle noise a lot better plus have the same autofocus speed of z8 that would be perfect camera
It no rocket science.. the pixel density size determines the low light capability of digital cameras.. so a high mpx has its trade off (low light is poorer) the z6 series all have the same low light capabilities at 24MPx
If it only had the sensor shield which competing R6II does. I was hoping that would be included. Likely on the z7iii
Looking to trade both my d7500 and d800e to get that z6iii!!!
Thank you for the video … looks like z6iii is my next step 🎉 😎
Z8/9 if you make money with it ZF for everything else ☺️
Mp are king, save the money and get the z8. I'm an amateur and it's still way worth it
I wish my Z8 was the size of the Z6....
z7iii ?
With great imaging power comes great computing responsibility.
Would a Mac Mini M2 with 16GB be able to cope with the files as mentioned at the start of the video? Or what would be a minimum Mac needed. Thank you. Great video. 👍🏻👍🏻
But, you're unfortunate to call those two "similar". Insane.
Not very specific and detailed reviews, just water. Btw 45 is almost 2x times more than 24...and in the past you used d810 with 36mpx, so don't tell you don't see difference. Btw both cameras can record 125min, same as z9, it's Nikon standart limit for now. Also there are some difference in record resolutions and codecs, btw 120 4k in z6 iii is in dx. As i said, very little specific information, just water. Sorry. Also now z8 is on discount.
45mp is not 2x more , its 1,4x more , to double it , the z6iii needs 96mp , you should do some math.
I thought it was obvious the 4k120 was in crop mode. The same as when z5 advertised 4k30 or the s5ii at 4k60 or the a7iv at 4k60 or the Canon r/rp at 4k or the m50 at 4k - you shoukd get my point now.
@@JJARCHIE sorry, we were talking just as simple numbers like 24 and 45, not pixels numbers. Also it can't be obvious, with that logic as sony a7 iv was 4k 60 cropped, canon r6 ii should be cropped, or canon r8. But they are not. So no, you should be more detailed. I really like Evan videos, but this, one of the worst z6 iii and z8 comparisons, looks as simple clickbait video.
Thanks for this.
I love my Z8!!!! I will also be getting a Z6III, however!!!!
Z6iii for bird photo
8:17 Shutter* not speed Human Error😅
You go into them details like crazy
I'm falling for one of those
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duude perfect video! I'm making this exact decision right now
nikon z8 😍
Still want a Z8 have a Z6 (I) now!
Its not NAI-KHAN.
There is no “A” in Nikon.
Its pronounced as NEE-KHON (as in Contigo Bar)
American vs British pronunciation. Get over yourself.
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Nai-Khan🤣🤣🤣
….my ass
@@macallanvintage 😜