Even then they spent a good deal of time developing her sadistic character(killing her twin and massacred herbivores). Whether they succeed is up to you. But it's still better than nothing compared the "Pterosaurs gone wild" and others in the JP series.
@@jerdasaurusrex557 the mosasaurus (yet not being a dinosaur) irl looked like a sort of whale boi, but jw's looks like a fucking kaiju/crocodile that hammered its feet into flippers, it also reminds me of lizzy if you took of her spines, sized her up and took away her frill and fangs
In the defence of Rex vs Indo, it is speculated T. rex may have been a highly territorial animal and we know for a fact that in the JPverse it is true, thanks to TLW's Buck and Doe. Rexy may have seen Indo as a territorial rival, and they do stare at each other roaring for a moment before charging into action
To add to what you said, the T-Rex initially only attacked the Indominus Rex, by taking quick snaps and slowly pushing her back. It was only after the T-Rex was nearly killed and got back up, that she started to treat it as a serious fight to the death. That was when the T-Rex stopped pulling her punches and started slamming the I-Rex into buildings, ramming her opponent with full force, etc. To me, that is entirely consistent with an animal, which would try to minimize a fight with an equally-sized opponent, unless there was no other option. Arguably, the T-Rex may have simply not expected the I-Rex to be so murderous and, therefore, got surprised and overwhelmed in the beginning.
In the marketing before FK came out, the DPG website said the pterosaurs went berserk because the aviary was not the right type of habitat for them and they got overstimulated by their newfound freedom. While this explanation is not shown in any of the films (and ironically is barely canon since they hired fans to write this marketing) I think its a fine explanation. Plus in the next movie the pteranodon ignore people both on the island and on the mainland and basically just act like animals as you described.
yeah no thats now how it works, that explanation is so unreasonable. The whole habitat explanation only works for the I. Rex since its pen was too small for its size
@@M1N1molo Yes, and what about the Scorpios Rex? Slaughtering the poor Ceratosaurus after already killing a Galimimus. I believe they just don't treat their subjects with respect.(Not trying to target u)
I think Trex vs Indominus battle could have been fixed with some small changes. Lets show Trex trying to just scare away Indominus, and Indominus being hyperagressive towards Trex, shouldnt be such big of a strech considering it killed for sport. This way you could justify why they had to fight.
In my one personal fanfiction rexy asexually reproduced baby’s and defended them by first trying to scare away the i Rex and then when the i Rex attacks rexy kills the i Rex by ripping off the i Rex’s arms because she identified them as the i Rex’s main advantage and the snapping it’s neck
@@DBZ_Rex in mines they do a bit of communication, and leave each-other alone due too same DNA, working together from time too time, but mainly leave the selfs alone
they actually do show this in the fight scene. Rex starts out snapping and shoving on the Indominous, that is, until she's seriously injured, at which point it becomes a fight to the death for her survival.
I think Rexy should’ve not gotten any hits in (she missed the first bite, then started getting attacked by the Indom), and the fight shouldn’t have been as awesomebroified, with Rexy only getting in some headbutts and about two-three bites after Blue attacks the Indom, before the mosasaurus kills the Indom
In Peter Jackson's iteration of King Kong, the island was constantly shrinking to the point it no longer existed in 1950, it was a literal battle royal where the map was constantly shrinking and everything was more aggressive just to survive, hence why the island was so mountainous.
The thing about this franchise is that most of the dinosaurs were not given adequate space, which is the explanation for why they’re so aggressive They’re also kept hungry to give visitors a more spectacular show
Roberta and the Indominus were practically identical in size and threat-level; that combined with Roberta's hungery state, the flare which signalled food, AND the territorial behavior that the Roberta was showing is what started the conflict. As mentioned above a bit, the rex was more taking small bites and was getting tossed around quite a bit. Only in the second round did she attack in full force, showing a bit of her older glory from her free days. The only real part that bugged me about JW isn't even the behavior of the Indominus, but rather the explanation of it. I am a proponent of the "Cockatoo theory" - Scratchmarks on the inside of the cage were just because she was trying to break out. - Claire threw in a steer, signalling dinner time, so like any camophlaging hunter does, she hid first, stalking her prey. - Humans panic, and enter the enclosure; new treats for the Indominus. This must be her lucky day! - the humans run out of the cage, with the big door open. Indie decides to explore, as any curious bird would. - Cockatoos are notoriously destructive, and will break things for fun; so when she came across a herd of apatosauruses, she thought it'd be a fun game to chase them down until they break. - Cockatoes are also well-known for being social animals, and will try to communicate with similar species like other birds, mimicking and repeating behavior; similar to what the Indominus did with the raptors. - The raptors turning on their human handlers was simply because of their hunting instinct, since hide-and-seek ends in a treat, and they weren't getting anything. "Drones don't eat people if you forget to feed them" - The final fight; by now the indominus has had several bad encounters with humans that try to hurt it; the raptors are not showing adequate agression towards the humans, and the indominus at the start didn't even seem to be hostile towards the humans. Blue lets out a roar and gets smacked aside. This would've been a simple reprimande were it not for the Indominus size. - The other raptors turn on her; the human starts shooting etc, and she's done with everything. At this point, she's gotten confirmation that humans are painful and she decides to get rid of them. - then another large bird shows up, and squares off. Cockatoes are very defensive, and will hold their ground a lot more than most other birds, so she stands her ground. The rex roars, goes in for a small reprimande, and the indominus now also registers the rex as a threat, and fights back. Anyone who's seen a cockatoo fight on a bad day knows how this will end; so she decides that she will stop this threat completely. so yeah, all of the indominus behavior can be explained by modelling it from the perspective of a pissed off cockatoo.
This makes no sense. Why wouldnt she go full in kill mode untill after she got taken down? Thats not how nature works, when u see a couple of lions fighting they dont "snap" at eachother, they first try to intimidate their opponent and then they both try to do the most dmg possible to their opponent while trying to take the less dmg possible in return
@@youlaughyouphill842 Roberta wasn't fully in the fight, and got caught by surprise and not fully prepared. From her perspective she went in chasing a little prey only to find another large carnivore. You have to remember that she was the top predator for a VERY long time, and she did weaken considerable after her capture by Hoskins. After she went down once she was now fully doped up on adrenaline and that's when she went in to kill. It's not completely how "nature" works, but it is how wild animals that have escaped captivity work.
After the big I.rex fight scene when Rexy and Blue looked at each other, the kid behind me in the cinema asked "Are those gonna fight now?" That was the moment I realized Jurassic World was more Jurassic Fight Club than Jurassic Park.
One weirdly specific thing I kinda liked: The gyrospheres are just plain goofy in general and would be a terrible idea, since guests can plow into herbivores. That being said, there's something very "setup -> payoff" about the gyrospheres being built strong enough that they'd generally discourage a dinosaur from attacking them, and the Indominus having a ridiculous snake jaw that manages to grip onto it anyway. Even the Rex would've found gyrospheres to be annoying but inedible.
I find it funny that I myself am really interested in ACTUAL dinosaur facts and know that dinos arn't as different as regular animals we see today, yet my favorite parts of learning about any animal in general is learning how it fought for either self-defense or how it hunted. And yeah i know dinos are not bloodthirsty killers, i at least know that much but come on. Can't I have a little fun every once in awhile? (Great vid btw)
Same here, I hate people saying they killed just for fun but I like looking at the way dinosaurs fought. In my head I always imagine one of them, or both, as starving and desperate.
The fall of the park should have been a tradgedy to better reflect the message of dinosaurs being animals and not monsters. They already showed the mass herbivore stampede when the kids were in their gyro balls. The destruction of the park and the deaths of some hundreds of guests could have been the result of one monster and a heap of paniking animals. A mass stampede could easily release more animals and destroy eletrical infastructure. If the chopper was closer to the avairy hole some pterasaurs in a panic to escape the indomitus rex and not compeehending helicopter design could have ran into the blades and been killed, and inadvertantly brought the chopper down. Making this a tradgedy for the pterasaurs, and the helicopter crew in Simon Masrani's attempt to slay the monster. Hell you could even have the finishing be Owen, Clare and the kids in a surreal scene of them walking through the scene of absolute carnage whilst the carnivores of the park go to work cleaning up the mess.(I'm imagining dead and dying herbivores from the stampede, fried dinosaurs from before mentioned eletrical hazards and the indomitus's trail of bodies)
@@Betweentheraindrops8 thank you, i personally think that with the indo-rex and the battle at the end it is vitally critical to end with the predators of the island as being just animals as well.
I agree. I say it all the time but it looks and feels like a Transformers fight. The cgi, the camera angles, the music. When Rexy arrived, it was way too happy. The music needed to be ominous in order to sell to us that this is more bad news...not their savior coming to rescue them. They should’ve used the dark music from The Lost World where the Buck breaks free from the cargo hold and leaves the ship. I think while Indy was trying to grab the boys, we have Claire run open to the Rex gate and wait with the flare. We see the gate open, see glowing eyes, and Claire takes off without waiting. We don’t see her make contact with Rexy and start running; we cut back to Indy trying to grab the boys. Then we hear the classic rex roar and it’s quiet. This causes the boys and Indy to stop moving, and Indy’s hand hovers there in front of them. She looks next to her and we see a flare on the ground, already thrown down next to her. Claire is already hiding behind the trees. Owen stands up and sees her, in disbelief she freed a rex. Crying, she WHISPERS “Run!” We hear Rexy’s steps, and the music takes that ominous tone we heard in TLW. Rexy busts through the spino skeleton in full motion much like the Buck burst through the warehouse. There’s no slow motion, no loud music, no posing to roar. Once she sees Indy the low music stops. They size each other up and here’s where there are parts of the fight I liked, such as them roaring at each other and Rexy making the first move to protect her territory, overwhelming Indy who isn’t used to a large predator with that much power so she uses her powerful arms to push Rexy’s head away, then Rexy being overwhelmed by Indy who would immediately go for the kill rather than intimidation. But Blue appearing alone after being that badly injured and not even ambushing Indy but full-on shrieking and leaping at her from the front? Nope. I understand some animals do indeed keep getting up and fighting but this would not be that situation. I think if Owen were to shoot at Indy, or Barry appeared and found them and started shooting at her, this could serve as the distraction. If we need to hear Blue, make it her calling out for her pack not knowing they were just killed while she was down. Any of this could distract Indy to look up after she knocked down Rexy. This could’ve resulted in Rexy taking that moment to bite down on Indy’s hand above her and not let go, completely crushing it as we hear Indy roar in pain. Rexy uses her foot to kick Indy and knock her down next to her while still clamping down on her hand. Rexy stands up, still holding Indy’s hand, and places her foot onto Indy’s ribs to hold her there but Indy stabs her foot with her other hand, causing Rexy to let go and step back. As Indy attempts to stand, Rexy grabs her and continues to toss her into buildings closer and closer to the lagoon. The result is the same, with the mosa being attracted to the sound of Indy crashing above and dangling her tail over the edge. Mosa grabs Indy by the tail, and uses all its weight to pull her down into the water. No weird heroic music buildup, no weird money-shot of all 4 of them roaring at each other while the mosa leaps up. No staring contest between Rex and Blue. Rex just hobbles off and Blue is seen in the back by Owen hobbling off too after being bitch-slapped earlier. He’s thankful she’s alive, but doesn’t see her afterwards.
@@Betweentheraindrops8personally i was keeping this part in the too hard basket along with the raptors going traitor(which has the troubling implications that Owen taught them how rocket launchers work and that they fully understood such instruction lol). i totally agree, the rex should be much more menacing, its not a returned hero, its an animal it has killed and eaten people in the past, it'll do it again. the shooting could have had more effect in the fight. I just got the impression that Owen was literally just blasting away into the night sky. Could made it convincing that the bullets are hitting the thing, show some impacts, but the indo is moving and its really big and he does not do much immediate damage (yeah he'd caused some serious internal injuries and the indomituswill probably die, but nothing immediately debilitating as to interfere much with the fight, but do cause a distraction for the trex to deliver more immediately debilitating attacks such as crushing an arm to uselessness or ripping it off(age rating is a bit of a hard limit here as ever). You could also have blue sucseed in actually blinding or half blinding it too. That way by the time the mosasaur makes its enterance you have all 3 parties have had a satisfying amount of participation in the fight. The indo is pretty screwed but opts to fight on like the movie monster it was made as meaning that it mught die, but it might kill everyone else before it does. Then bam mosasaur. With the 2nd movie in mind i think one of the last scenes(I'd have cut the scene in the hanger in Costa Rica)need to be as they are leaving the island, and despite the horrors of that previous night Clare looks out and sees more importantly is seen to appreciate the majesty of the animals in their new found freedom on their island, whilst Owen head down, or towards their destination does not. You could also do something with the brothers.
The whole raptor pack turning on the team wasn’t actually bad for me. It was a fun surprise. How to explain it though...I’m not sure. How did she speak to the raptors, never having formed language with them before? Even humans who aren’t socialized won’t learn to speak with other humans. Kind of like Genie, the feral child. Indy would be Genie in this case. If maybe it was established that the raptors and Indy had their paddocks close enough to communicate for the last few years, maybe. It would’ve also been cool to see all 3 raptors in the end survive. Maybe while they’re fighting that’s when they all freeze, looking in the direction of Rexy as she walks down the dark tunnel to Main Street. Claire could’ve gotten around the raptors and Indy while fighting, or she could’ve thrown the flare at them and stayed perfectly still in the dark tunnel so Rexy didn’t see her and just followed the flare to where it landed. That way, Rexy comes out trying to scare them all off, and Indy makes the first move or loudest response...causing Rexy to focus on her instead of the raptors. As they fight, raptors try to avoid getting stomped and attack Indy’s flank, knowing she’s a bigger threat than Rexy. Once Rexy gets the upper hand, we have an all-out attack of a raptor pack and a rex all fighting to take down Indy, the raptors sticking to the outside as to not get trampled or holding on to the top of Indy. Then mosa comes in and finishes it. Coordinated inter-species attacks aren’t unheard today. The raptors are beat up, and give Rexy a wide berth as they walk around her. She eyes them as they do so. The 3 of them survive and take off into the jungle and Rexy walks off in the opposite direction.
@@supertrike5893 You call them "braindead" just because they care about the subject matter, and not about the fun that is presented. People who just wanted to turn their brain off and have fun is fine, just don't compare one target audience to another and saying that the people who cared are braindead and inferior. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Even if the film is solely made for fun, there will always be people who will care about accuracy, logic, themes, plot holes, and characters, and not just the loud noise and big dumb fun. And that is fine, film is subjective and those types of people are normal. Calling these people "braindead" just because they do not appreciate the film, cared too much, or just because they are not the film's target audience is just insulting and ridiculous.
If you want Camp Cretaceous, they make Wu kind of a nut He’s obsessed with his hybrids and doesn’t really respect his creations as animals Spoiler: He also made a hybrid before the I-rex called the Scorpius Rex that he cryogenically froze because it was “too dangerous and unpredictable” which kinda seems outside of his established character
I’m watching this video a year late, and I 100% agree about the pterosaurs, but not with the rex. I highly recommend checking out Klayton Fioriti’s interview about paleontological accuracy of the T. rex in JP with a paleontologist (I believe his guest was a paleontologist). He describes that T. rex was one of the only carnivores that wouldn’t stand down from a fight most of the time, although I don’t fully remember the quote. I would also “argue” that the Indominus was trying to communicate with the rex like she had with the raptors, but that’s just speculation!
but trex should'nt be standing and keep going after so many fatal injury and bites wounds to their neck, its just straight up transformers movie for me. would be cool if the result of the fight gave trex a long lasting effect to her body, not just a cool scar...maybe cripple legs, broken hips, deformed face or lost an eye. its would made the fight less pointless
@@kadalsaurus6232 it probably did have a lot of broken bones after the fight, but it didn’t really matter anyway since all of the other predators on the island were way smaller than the T. rex and wouldn’t really stand much of a chance against her unless she was teamed on.
Okay, I am going to push back a little on this. With the pterosaurs. The I-Rex literally broke into their cage and started roaring and chomping at them. ANY animal capable of flight would’ve tried to fly away, and away, is also out through the hole in the aviary and away from their nests and stuff (seeing as most animals today leave their nest as soon as a predator gets to it, it’s not unlikely they’d abandon their nests also. As for the helicopter scene, it COULD be interpreted as them, not necessarily attacking it, but more like just running into it in their panic. And the end with the T-Rex fight can be explained if the Indominus had charged first (which I think she did). A T-Rex seeing another large carnivore charging it, would’ve prompted a charge and an attack too.
So, you know how you said JP3 has the Pteradons act more like real animals because they didn't attack the helicopter? Yeah... That was supposed to be the third act. It was in the script and everything but they blew the budget which is why that movie is the shortest in the franchise.
@@masterofgaburincho yeah but that’s because either 1: A giant three headed dragon from space is coming to kill earth or is being resurrected, 2: a gigantic robot or cyborg is terrorizing everything on the planet, 3: a monster came out of earth and has a want to kill, or 4: human op must stop.
Depends on version really. Sometimes Godzilla is hero, sometimes beast full of rage, sometimes straight up sadist, sometimes apocalypse istself...but yeah monsterverse version is fighting to restore balance
I find it very sad how the indominus Rex’s death is treated as a victory. Like she didn’t ask to be made y’know, and the park is still destroyed, hundreds of people are injured or killed, and Simon is dead. This is a bad ending right?
I agree. I never saw Indominous death as victory. It was quite poetic and sad. She is human creation. Something that never existed and never should exist. All she know was laboratory and her own small cage.
I love your video man and I respect a lot of things you said in this video and brought up some good points, but I really love this franchise even more it's just fun, so no offense but I don't care what anyone says I love JP and JW to heart.
I agree. Jurassic World had a pretty cool premise, and the contrast between the monstrous Indominus rex and the (somewhat) natural dinosaurs could've been an interesting theme. But alas, we got a mindless action movie with little to no focus on anything other than dinosaurs killing people and each other.
I’ve been a huge fan of dinosaurs since I was 4 years old, and I still don’t quite think I have completely realized what dinosaurs really were. I grew up watching the Jurassic movies and I can’t bring myself to dislike them over something as small as not being realistic. I think the first two work as true dinosaur movies, being actual movies with ideas. While the others are just for when your wanting Dinosaurs action, just being Hollywood blockbusters. Anyway, whenever when the day comes that I truly understand, I’m sure I will still enjoy everything from the Jurassic franchise (even Fallen Kingdom) all though only two are good dinosaur movies, and that’s fine, you can be someone who wants truly fantastic movies, or just a good ride, I like to think I’m a bit of both, and it’s fine to just be one. I will admit the JW villains suck.
16:30-17:00 but that is what we're seeing. If you pay close attention to the initial confrontation, it opens with the t rex roaring and the I rex roaring in response, ending in the 2 roaring at each other. According to Camp Cretaceous, Rexy's territory on nublar is the main park, therefore, this is a territorial dispute. On top of this, after the 2 roar at each other, the I rex roars in response to their intimidations. Given an I rex can speak with t rex similarly to how it can speak and negotiate with raptors, the roaring before the fight is a message of "fck you" to the t rex. Given the initial roaring from both of them being equivalent to " Your last chance to negotiate," Rexy would take the I rex roaring as "welp, it was worth a shot" followed by the fight. The intimidation/negotiation was short, but it's there if you look for it.
I didn't like the movie for 2 points: the raptors just switch sides and join the indomitus rex, who despite never having been taught any social skills can magically communicate with them, and they turn on Owen and then they backflip for no real reason at the end of the film. And secondly because of the pteradon attack.
The raptors actually didn't just switch sides and join the Indominus rex. When the Indominus tried to communicate with them, they actually were looking back at Owen because they were confused. However, a few moments later the humans opened fire. Not until then the raptors join the Indominus and attack the humans.
Very slight changes could’ve changed the pterosaur scene, like the gunner shooting at the pterosaurs first spooking them so they hit the helicopter, or instead of outright attacking main street stealing people food and perching on buildings spooking the guest, and then the en sighting panic and stampede of guests is our danger set piece, also if the indominous attacked the Rex first it would’ve been better than both attacking at once
I believe when the i-rex broke into the pterosaur enclosure & started attempting to kill the pterosaurs, they panicked. when you panic, you tend to lose a bit of your critical thinking. the pterosaurs flew away because of the i-rex. & panicking probably made them attack the visitors of the park. EDIT: the t rex was confirmed to have attacked the i rex for territorial reasons, & that's about all I can say for confirmation. it's portrayed she was overwhelmed by the i rex's vicious nature. when blue attacks the i rex, the t rex starts using full force & slamming the i rex into buildings & shit. the indominus is not how a normal dinosaur would act. the t rex was trying to intimidate the indominus & attacked when she wouldn't back away
at this point the Jurassic World franchise can honestly just throw all semblance of scientific accuracy to the wind and go straight to cyborg dinosaurs with lasers in space and shapeshifting dino-human hybrids who are also wild-west gunslingers played by Kevin Bacon and John Cena. they've shown again and again that they don't care about scientific accuracy, and portray completely awesomebro things, so...just stop pretending to be realistic and go 200% awesomebro, it'd be more entertaining that way, and we can just watch documentaries for proper realism
I kinda doubt dinosaurs were that smart. I have chickens as pets, and some of them are decently smart, but obviously nowhere near as smart as the velociraptors in this franchise. It makes sense that dinosaurs wouldn't be geniuses that immediately can detect humans in a two mile radius, since it's not rare to see animals in the wild doing dumb stuff to.
Well creatures like crows, which are decendants of dinosaurs are highly intelligent. Also due to recent studies scientists think trex might have been as smart as a chimp
An alternative scene where the pterosaurs crash into walls or signs because of stress from hearing hundreds of people scream in panic. The scene woukd be more of a tragedy rather than an action sequence.
Here’s my theory: The Tyrannosaurus (Like @LolloBlie96 said) was territorial, and fought the Indominus for territory, but didn’t know that the Indominus was trying to kill them and only noticed when Blue tried to help her
Virtually all the inaccuracies of Jurassic Park/World's dinosaurs can be explained by the fact that those animals are not and never will be authentic dinosaurs. They are artificial, man-made creatures that required genes from modern day animals. This was fully fleshed out in the book, but not the films unfortunately. The T-Rex's movement based vision was the result of having foreign genes used to grow it. The sci-fi element of the story provides a perfect excuse that also leaves room for commentary. So honestly, for all intents and purposes, the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are all accurate enough imo. The story has never been about literal dinosaurs.
I agree with mostly everything within this video besides the final battle between Tyrannosaurus and Indominus. It seems this video completely ignores the fact that, all be it very short, there was evidence for Tyrannosaurus attempting to scare off the Indominus as she slowly approached hoping to bush Indominus back. I find the argument for a "realistic territorial dispute" between the two to be a rather mute point since, as explain in this very video, Indominus has no interest in territory nor backing down from fights but rather instigating those battles for its own want and need for death. Let's also keep in mind that the reasoning for predators choosing not to fight to the death but rather intimidate one another is also rather mute. There is loads of evidence to show that any carnivore when faced with another, regardless of species, is going to act hostile due to one important thing, competition. Tyrannosaurus itself is a good example as it is theorized to be highly territorial to others of its own kind and age due to the sheer amount of prey it would need to sustain itself. Let us also not forget about Majungasaurus, a Dinosaur that takes these points to the extreme by cannibalizing its own kind. Dinosaurs aren't bloodthirsty monsters, this much is true however, battles between carnivores are bound to happen especially when these carnivores are as big as most Theropod Dinosaurs. Bigger bodies means more food and territory which thus means more competition between individuals and the best way to stop competition is to kill the competitor. The only and best way for carnivores to avoid competition and likely death from one another is by evolving to sustain less sustainable niches within their ecosystem, a great example of this is Spinosaurus, one of the largest carnivorous Dinosaurs sustaining a semiaquatic piscivore niche. Spinosaurus had no need to compete with other carnivorous Dinosaurs besides the occasional acceptations and thus was generally able to live in relative peace.
Something to mention is the concept of territories. From Rexy's perspective, another apex predator has boundary stomped, invaded her territory, and challenged her. That could merit a response that goes past a threat display. I find it funny how Red Raptor gets the concept of dinosaurs being animals too, but balks at the idea of two animals attacking each other as soon as they are in range, because clearly that has never happened in the history of ever /s.
firstly, the majungasaurus evidence was likely just a scavenged meal or the killing of an sick/elderly dinosaur. Secondly, wouldn’t it be better for both creatures to mark their boundaries? At the very least, they wouldn’t fight to the death. Imagine, say, a giganotosaurus has invaded a t-rex’s territory (despite them living at different times and places, this is purely hypothetical). If they fight to the death, no one wins with both getting seriously injured. If they leave each other alone, then all goes well unless there isn’t enough food in the split territory. In that case, both dinosaurs would occasionally when necessary fight/threaten each other for a small amount of the territory, reverting back after a while once they’d had their share. This sort of back and forth ‘truce’ would go on for a while, until either one died of natural causes or took too long before making their threat displays. Here, they may go for a fight, but would likely be even more injured in their starving state and eventually succumb to their wounds. The other dinosaur wouldn’t go out of their way to finish them off, a few deep scratches and a bite mark or broken bone would likely spell game over for the attacker and it would be too risky to go further.
@@carrott36 The problem with your argument is you act as if Indominus Rex acts like a normal animal. Yes, in a realistic scenario with two large carnivores, they'd spread out their territory as to not compete with one another. However, Indominus Rex showed absolutely no signs of even making territory, she just went from location to location killing all over the island. She had no need for territory either due to her bloodlust or because, as stated in the film, she doesn't understand what she is and how to act. This is an animal that reacts to even the most basic of stimuli with violence because, that's all she has to protect herself from something she doesn't understand. She doesn't know how large carnivores are supposed to interact with one another or even how she's supposed to act as one herself, she didn't have a parental or even sibling figure to teach her and find comfort with. The only reason not all the Dinosaurs on the island are like this is most likely due to their deep seeded instincts that lays within their very genetic code. This instinctual code could've very well been terminated in the creation of Indominus Rex and possibly all hybrids from the films.
@@alienstar2088 Okay, it's just you said the best way to go about someone being in your territory is to kill them, which is wildly not true. Also, Rexy WAS a normal dinosaur. I'd have been perfectly happy if they'd roared at each other, then the indo begins to back off. Rexy, satisfied, turns her back to go back the way she came, maybe reaching out her head to snag Blue in a very intense scene, before the indominus launches herself back at Rexy. To make it then clear that indy wasn't trying to help blue, we can have maybe one of the other pack members alive at this point and she kills that one without a second thought.
@@carrott36 In response to Rexy being hyper aggressive, think about other animals that exist today. Lions will push out their young adults in order to preserve balance within the pride. They can do this knowing the young Lion lacks the experience and strength the adults do. Odds are, Tyrannosaurus could identify Indominus' age and, according to instinctual knowledge, perform the same action based upon that information. If you knew you were older, bigger and had more experience than your opponent than there'd be no reason to back down. They are a threat simply by existing. Imagine if a Tyrannosaurus allowed a younger rival to simply leave the territory, what if it came back when it was older and become twice as hard to take down? Threat displays are only used when both opponents are equal because that leads to equal chances of damage and death for both parties involved. The same risks are not given when there is a gap in age, sex, experience or even species. Whilst Tyrannosaurus wasn't a cannibal, it was most likely highly aggressive to it's own species when not a mating pair.
I think theirs a way to fix the helicopter and the park attack scene maybe instead of it showing the Pteranodon attacking the helicopter it shows them bumping into it like since they're trying to get away from the I-rex as fast as possible they keep accidentally hitting NOT on purpose and it shows some flying into the jungle and shows some flying over the tourists and out towards sea and the I-Rex follows the Pteranodon leading it to the tourists which shows the attacks BOOM fixed
Dude, how do you only have a few thousand subscribers??? Your content is criminally underrated. Your video was very well made and honestly should be a lot more popular than it is. :D
I mean its nothing new. In the original movie characters were constantly attacked by dinos. T rex and Dilo were just hungry but Raptors were acting like antagonistic monsters that not only kill for food but they seem to enjoy it way too much. Idk why so many people ignore that
4:13 i wouldn't put the movie "Dinosaur" there since in the context of the movie it makes sense why the carnos act like that. They are in the middle of a drought probably as hungry, thirsty and exhausted as the herd itself
16:34 I disagree with you The reason rexy Attacks the irex is because Claire throat the flare at the irex and a flare signals food for rexy so she was attempting to eat
It could be argued for the initial attack on the helicopter that the arkosaurs were panicking, and perceieved the large, loud and strange flying object as a threat. As for the attack in the park i have no defense for. But as others have mentioned, as for the Rex vs Indo, remember that Jurassic Park's universe is different from ours, and in the JP Universe, T. Rex is very territorial (see: LW Buck and Doe). Rexy starts out trying to scare the indominous off, before she's injured and realizes the indo is a genuine threat and not just a rival, at which point she fights with no holds barred.
I remember that now! I believe there was a third sharp tooth that was the actual bad guy who wanted to eat them but chompers parents come to the rescue.
“It would been better if the rex and the i rex try to scare each other off by roaring.” Expect that they do that in the movie, they roar at each other in two different scenes, I can’t defend the pteranodon scene but the rex vs I rex fight was good visually and meaningful, (not with the deepest meaning) I think that yes the I rex tried to subdue rexy like she did with the raptor but since rexy isn’t really a pack animal due to the fact she always live by herself, like Owen says in the movie both of them really never met a top predator before, plus in the canon I feel like the dinosaurs didn’t back up just for the simple reason that it may be their last shot to take the I rec down due to her almost invincible resilience, (she took a fucking ankylosaurus’s whip to the face, the same whip could have killed an adult rex, just saying) by the messages part I feel like it just a “nature fixing itself like in Godzilla, let them fight, some says that it’s a “old one always better” situation by letting the old rex win but blue and the mosa are new generations so I don’t know where that complain is coming from, thought I feel like your essay was well put through but not thought enough. It feel like you just watch a couple of times.
The reason the Indominus Rex being such a monster actually works is because it’s not a real animal, it’s a hybrid. She’s doesn’t even know what she is and it also proves that the point of the Jurassic World movies is that we haven’t learned our lesson from creating dinosaurs.
Why would good cost this dinosaur's future? Why did someone make a story that hybrids can be good, and then have the modern age message of pets and how baby pets can be bad. Another dinosaur of her breed is just a I-Rex
Love this take on JW. This was my exact sentiment when I saw it in theaters. They threw out the plot here and went straight for a kaiju/Transformers fight at the end. Plus I couldn’t stand the overuse of cgi. The raptors looked crazy, and they were constantly snarling like dogs and moving their tails like cats 🥴. Also, no use of animatronic for the indominus?? Really?? We waited 14 years for this and there are multiple animatronic indominus heads and full-sized bodies in Universal rides now...but nothing for the movie?? And they managed to completely f up Fallen Kingdom. My god, what a disaster. I know it’s a lot to ask but I’d love to know how you’d rewrite that movie, much like you gave us rewrites in Jurassic Fight Club. Would you do a video on everything you’d change FK?
You’re over analyzing the Rex and I Rex fight. It’s a reasonable assumption, given the scarring found on the muzzles of almost every adult tyrannosaurus skull that’s been found, that a Rex wouldn’t back down and would choose to fight. If you want scientific accuracy, go read a paper published about Rex behavior. These, at the end of the day, are movies meant to entertain, they’re not here to show what the scientific understanding of the time.
Kind of why I place JW1 higher than any of its sequels. There was something there that made it truly feel like Jurassic in its execution that reflects the morals of neglecting the animals of what they're genetically coded to live as and the psychology behind them, but ultimately threw it out to be a modern action film for the sake of being a modern action film in most parts. You can retort that Dominion does the same exact thing, but then the action aspect overshadows everything else from there. It doesn't redeem itself to make me feel better seeing the JP rex finding its own kind because I already saw dinosaurs littering casually roaming the streets of Malta and a predictably bland fight with a less than menacing "antagonist" dino. Even the Extended Edition didn't bother to patch much up other than make the film more clear for people who watch these films without a brain.
The thing we should understand about T-rex confrontation with Indominus was that it was absolutely a territorial dispute between two large predators that Rexy saw as a rival. It is canon in the JP series that Rexes are highly territorial and aggressive towards each other unless they are a mating pair, of course. If you listen to Indominus it was clearly mimicking the vocals of the T-rex in a bid to force it to back down. Another factor that is keeping me from harping on JW behaviors is how Ngens carnivores behaviors are portrayed. In the "Jurassic Park novel" by Micheal Chriton, Dr. Henry Wu wasn't certain if the behaviors of his dinosaurs were their actual behavioral patterns. When he saw the tactical nature of the raptors, he was forced to question if this was how they behaved in the past. For me and anyone else who studies animals, the raptors' violent nature goes well beyond most animals we know of. To the point of having a very rogue disposition with not even pack mates are safe from one another and the idea that they would ignore self-preservation to attack a T-rex. I felt inclined to ignore the nonsense of the pterosaurs because I doubt a pack of compys would swarm attack an individual or really desperate pteranodon would mob a person for food in JP3.
I understand about your reason with the pterosaurus attacking the people instead of flying away. But this is a movie after all since you needs animals to act unrealistic for sake of tension, action and entertainment for the movie audience. Jurassic Park was no different to Jurassic World about animals acting like monsters. Here are some examples, T.rex smashing a tree through while chasing a jeep with no injury. The raptors hunting the kids when they already killed 2 people and even ignored a table full of food. Dilphosaurus playing peek a boo behind a tree and aswell it just "happens" to enter Dennis jeep with no explanation of how it got in there.
Thank you. It seems people forget that JP and JW are fictional entertainment movies and not dinosaur documentaries. If they all acted like realistic animals then the tension would deflate really quickly. The I-rex would've been killed early on, the pterosaurs would've scattered, the raptors wouldn't have "switched sides" and attack the soldiers, instead they'd likely try to get away from the danger for the sake of self-preservation and Blue's return at the final battle wouldn't have happened as she'd realize that the I-rex would be way out of her league. This isn't a fault of the movie, it's just the way it is. Action movies and war movies wouldn't be the same either if they followed realism. In 90% of action movies the hero would likely be dead after the first big fight for example.
@@GilgameshofBabylon I don't think that game ever established, the dilo in the jeep was a different one. Also the game is "soft canon" and more like a "what if" scenario.
@@RyanTheSergal This is really dishonest. I don't think anyone wants the movies to be like documentaries. You can't compare a few really minor flaws that could actually be explained away easily with the problems in Jurassic World. The raptors in JP could just be surplus hunting, something animals do or could just be exploring a new location. They are portrayed as intelligent animals and intelligent animals tend to be really curious. The dilophosaurus scene isn't even a flaw. There was a good amount of time between Nedry stumbling up to the jeep and wiping his eyes for the dilo to get into the Jeep through an open window. And I am not even going to explain the scene with the T rex. Comparing these to all of the stupid shit that happens in Jurassic World is mindbogglingly dishonest. Y'know like the raptor teaming up with the T rex to take down the I rex for some reason.
@@saisameer8771 I wouldn't say dishonest. Saying I am being dishonest implies I wasn't being honest with my thoughts, whilst infact I was being honest with my own thoughts, which, perhaps weren't too well thought out. Thinking over your argument I do see your point and I even concede that I agree and was a bit ignorant in my original comment. It definitely seems like the francise has changed significantly from a more realistic view of intelligent, dangerous animals not used to/evolved to fear humans introduced into a foreign ecosystem because of human carelessness, wrecking havoc amongst unprepared survivors, to a more unrealistic, cheesy, dumbed down action/ sci-fi flick. (though luckily it never went as dumb/bad as the proposed original sequels to JP 2 and 3.) I think I was a little blinded by my love for the franchise as a whole, as I personally love every installment aside from 3. I can now definitely see the flaws and why more critical fans (especially fans of the original) would dislike the new direction of the JW series. However, I stand by my opinion that I still love the JW series of films, despite their flaws. I seperate the JP/JW series a lot from actual paleontological media. I recognize that JW is highly unrealistic, even compared to the original trilogy. Still, I love the movies and remain a fan of both series.
Pterosaurs escaping and massacring people wasn't that far from reality though , it's not a single creature running after all those humans , there are hundreds of those trying to hunt for themselves and they have lived all their lives in captivity which can also mess with their behaviour considerably and make them more violent (like how orcas never attack humans in the wild , but orca attacks in captivity are a pretty common thing) Not to mention that they were all released suddenly and had to escape the indom causing them to act strangely amid the chaos
And then, they say her clone however like many man-made animals can be bred for a job/beneficial working animal or live stock. Unbelievable that a good hybrid story the hybrids have the opposite ending
Out of all of three Jurassic world movies fallen kingdom cause it’s tone was more horror based and how it shifts to two different movies in one like the first half the end of Isla Nublar the end of the island that started it all and the fate of an endangered cloned extinct species and the other half a horror movie monster and a beginning of a new world of humans and dinosaurs coexisting there are some ideas and plot that isn’t fully fleshed out even with some characters but it’s the concept of it that makes it so fun to watch and the Indoraptor is my favorite hybrid dinosaur it was scary and cool I wish we got more of him and him using his abilities cause they never explore it at all and although it’s a prototype the fact that it was meant for war and it was kept in captivity where it couldn’t use it’s many skills cause it wasn’t in a open environment and wasn’t put on many field like test it would’ve been interesting if it survived to see if we could expand on people’s desire for using dinosaurs as weaponry with Indoraptor and instead of locus the main threat is a virus from dinosaurs made by Dodgson released onto the world and the Indoraptor has a gene in it’s blood to cure it and it still needs to be engineered with beta’s blood to it can more adaptive immunity to the virus to make a cure
What do you mean dinosaur treated it’s animals like monsters? The Carnotaurus and the raptors both hung back against the larger herd and only picked off lone individuals. It’s part of the plot.
Dinosaur films and shows and shows like Jurassic park and Jurassic park and Jurassic world or the whole reason why I wrote my book Bandit’s Legacy. To give people a more realistic perspective on what these animals may have actually been like.
Except that Jurassic park is self aware that it’s dinosaurs aren’t real dinosaurs as Henry Wu said in Jurassic world when he says “nothing in Jurassic world is real”
Quick heads up. I know you are referring to Dino Thunder but, I think that it would somewhat please you to know that in the Japanese version the Dino Zord are alive and are treated as animals at first until there intelligence is revealed.
I think the pteranodons and dimorphodons attacked the people because they wanted revenge like it's possible that they went under abuse before being put in the aviary and in Jurassic park 3 Alan Grant said that the raptors were smarter than primates which that might also be the case with the other dinosaurs and due to abuse they carnivores wanted revenge !
To defend the pterosaur attack scene, there was some reasoning for it. Klaytons done a video about it, so give that a watch & maybe you wouldn’t feel & think the pterosaurs were attacking for no reason. Because they did had a reason to attack maybe?
I think if they showed that they starved the pterosaurs to make them look skinnier and had the i Rex it would have worked better but still shouldn’t happen
Dinosaurs are animals, no (killing-)mashines. I think, all dinonaurs living in peace together, like lions, bears today. Paradiese. Thank You for this view. We humans took our sight over this 120 million years of creation in our view. That's lost. But it explain our human anger and fear.
I love how the Indominus.Rex is pretty much is the embodiment of what the average person thinks of a dinosaur
Whereas the Indoraptor is basically a devil beast that kills out of spite. :p
Even then they spent a good deal of time developing her sadistic character(killing her twin and massacred herbivores). Whether they succeed is up to you. But it's still better than nothing compared the "Pterosaurs gone wild" and others in the JP series.
In the end I.rex became a metaphor for the movie itself. And not in a good way.
@@jerdasaurusrex557 the mosasaurus (yet not being a dinosaur) irl looked like a sort of whale boi, but jw's looks like a fucking kaiju/crocodile that hammered its feet into flippers, it also reminds me of lizzy if you took of her spines, sized her up and took away her frill and fangs
And yet, her behavior is not so different from say, honey badgers or chimpanzees...
In the defence of Rex vs Indo, it is speculated T. rex may have been a highly territorial animal and we know for a fact that in the JPverse it is true, thanks to TLW's Buck and Doe. Rexy may have seen Indo as a territorial rival, and they do stare at each other roaring for a moment before charging into action
To add to what you said, the T-Rex initially only attacked the Indominus Rex, by taking quick snaps and slowly pushing her back. It was only after the T-Rex was nearly killed and got back up, that she started to treat it as a serious fight to the death.
That was when the T-Rex stopped pulling her punches and started slamming the I-Rex into buildings, ramming her opponent with full force, etc. To me, that is entirely consistent with an animal, which would try to minimize a fight with an equally-sized opponent, unless there was no other option. Arguably, the T-Rex may have simply not expected the I-Rex to be so murderous and, therefore, got surprised and overwhelmed in the beginning.
You also have to take into account how emaciated Rexy was. She was clearly fed the bare minimum.
@@THEDonnyB A goat maybe twice or thrice a day is not feeding a mature T.rex well I agree. We also see she has bulked up in Fallen Kingdom once again.
Camp Cretaceous confirmed it. T-rex attacked the predator for territory reasons.
It means nothing, nothing to look at, Indo-nothing doesn't exist. Proper dinosaurs in the fossil records do.
In the marketing before FK came out, the DPG website said the pterosaurs went berserk because the aviary was not the right type of habitat for them and they got overstimulated by their newfound freedom. While this explanation is not shown in any of the films (and ironically is barely canon since they hired fans to write this marketing) I think its a fine explanation. Plus in the next movie the pteranodon ignore people both on the island and on the mainland and basically just act like animals as you described.
yeah no thats now how it works, that explanation is so unreasonable. The whole habitat explanation only works for the I. Rex since its pen was too small for its size
@@lonzoformvp5078 Is it too much to consider they are panicking and went out the only way out they saw which had them run into the chopper?
@@lonzoformvp5078 AHEM. Ouranosaurus going crazy in CC? That's based on lack of enclosure.
@@M1N1molo Yes, and what about the Scorpios Rex? Slaughtering the poor Ceratosaurus after already killing a Galimimus. I believe they just don't treat their subjects with respect.(Not trying to target u)
I think Trex vs Indominus battle could have been fixed with some small changes. Lets show Trex trying to just scare away Indominus, and Indominus being hyperagressive towards Trex, shouldnt be such big of a strech considering it killed for sport. This way you could justify why they had to fight.
In my one personal fanfiction rexy asexually reproduced baby’s and defended them by first trying to scare away the i Rex and then when the i Rex attacks rexy kills the i Rex by ripping off the i Rex’s arms because she identified them as the i Rex’s main advantage and the snapping it’s neck
@@DBZ_Rex in mines they do a bit of communication, and leave each-other alone due too same DNA, working together from time too time, but mainly leave the selfs alone
the t rex sort of tried to scare away the indominus
they actually do show this in the fight scene. Rex starts out snapping and shoving on the Indominous, that is, until she's seriously injured, at which point it becomes a fight to the death for her survival.
I think Rexy should’ve not gotten any hits in (she missed the first bite, then started getting attacked by the Indom), and the fight shouldn’t have been as awesomebroified, with Rexy only getting in some headbutts and about two-three bites after Blue attacks the Indom, before the mosasaurus kills the Indom
How a helicopter machine gunner can’t hit a slow-moving 50-foot target is beyond me.
It's like seeing someone play XCOM with low-level fighters.
Or maybe the gunner was a retired Imperial stormtrooper.
The Indominus Rex was stated to run 35 miles per hour in the movie tho
@@suchomimustenerensis well it was still a bus sized animal
@@Rafael_Peixoto oh and it’s bulletproof
In Peter Jackson's iteration of King Kong, the island was constantly shrinking to the point it no longer existed in 1950, it was a literal battle royal where the map was constantly shrinking and everything was more aggressive just to survive, hence why the island was so mountainous.
The thing about this franchise is that most of the dinosaurs were not given adequate space, which is the explanation for why they’re so aggressive
They’re also kept hungry to give visitors a more spectacular show
Roberta and the Indominus were practically identical in size and threat-level; that combined with Roberta's hungery state, the flare which signalled food, AND the territorial behavior that the Roberta was showing is what started the conflict. As mentioned above a bit, the rex was more taking small bites and was getting tossed around quite a bit.
Only in the second round did she attack in full force, showing a bit of her older glory from her free days.
The only real part that bugged me about JW isn't even the behavior of the Indominus, but rather the explanation of it.
I am a proponent of the "Cockatoo theory"
- Scratchmarks on the inside of the cage were just because she was trying to break out.
- Claire threw in a steer, signalling dinner time, so like any camophlaging hunter does, she hid first, stalking her prey.
- Humans panic, and enter the enclosure; new treats for the Indominus. This must be her lucky day!
- the humans run out of the cage, with the big door open. Indie decides to explore, as any curious bird would.
- Cockatoos are notoriously destructive, and will break things for fun; so when she came across a herd of apatosauruses, she thought it'd be a fun game to chase them down until they break.
- Cockatoes are also well-known for being social animals, and will try to communicate with similar species like other birds, mimicking and repeating behavior; similar to what the Indominus did with the raptors.
- The raptors turning on their human handlers was simply because of their hunting instinct, since hide-and-seek ends in a treat, and they weren't getting anything. "Drones don't eat people if you forget to feed them"
- The final fight; by now the indominus has had several bad encounters with humans that try to hurt it; the raptors are not showing adequate agression towards the humans, and the indominus at the start didn't even seem to be hostile towards the humans. Blue lets out a roar and gets smacked aside. This would've been a simple reprimande were it not for the Indominus size.
- The other raptors turn on her; the human starts shooting etc, and she's done with everything. At this point, she's gotten confirmation that humans are painful and she decides to get rid of them.
- then another large bird shows up, and squares off. Cockatoes are very defensive, and will hold their ground a lot more than most other birds, so she stands her ground. The rex roars, goes in for a small reprimande, and the indominus now also registers the rex as a threat, and fights back. Anyone who's seen a cockatoo fight on a bad day knows how this will end; so she decides that she will stop this threat completely.
so yeah, all of the indominus behavior can be explained by modelling it from the perspective of a pissed off cockatoo.
@DemPenguins I'm a bit of a purist about her name, that's all.
This makes no sense. Why wouldnt she go full in kill mode untill after she got taken down? Thats not how nature works, when u see a couple of lions fighting they dont "snap" at eachother, they first try to intimidate their opponent and then they both try to do the most dmg possible to their opponent while trying to take the less dmg possible in return
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Roberta wasn't fully in the fight, and got caught by surprise and not fully prepared. From her perspective she went in chasing a little prey only to find another large carnivore. You have to remember that she was the top predator for a VERY long time, and she did weaken considerable after her capture by Hoskins.
After she went down once she was now fully doped up on adrenaline and that's when she went in to kill.
It's not completely how "nature" works, but it is how wild animals that have escaped captivity work.
At least it's more creative than rexy
Rexy*
After the big I.rex fight scene when Rexy and Blue looked at each other, the kid behind me in the cinema asked "Are those gonna fight now?" That was the moment I realized Jurassic World was more Jurassic Fight Club than Jurassic Park.
Odd child
One weirdly specific thing I kinda liked: The gyrospheres are just plain goofy in general and would be a terrible idea, since guests can plow into herbivores. That being said, there's something very "setup -> payoff" about the gyrospheres being built strong enough that they'd generally discourage a dinosaur from attacking them, and the Indominus having a ridiculous snake jaw that manages to grip onto it anyway. Even the Rex would've found gyrospheres to be annoying but inedible.
Yeah, I liked the idea too
The "snake jaw" thing makes sense due to pit viper DNA added, which is cool.
I find it funny that I myself am really interested in ACTUAL dinosaur facts and know that dinos arn't as different as regular animals we see today, yet my favorite parts of learning about any animal in general is learning how it fought for either self-defense or how it hunted. And yeah i know dinos are not bloodthirsty killers, i at least know that much but come on. Can't I have a little fun every once in awhile? (Great vid btw)
No. Now go watch walking with dinos for the 400th time
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Im not liking otherwise that would change
Same here, I hate people saying they killed just for fun but I like looking at the way dinosaurs fought. In my head I always imagine one of them, or both, as starving and desperate.
No,because if the dinosaurs aren't 120% accurate,then your not allowed to enjoy the product
The fall of the park should have been a tradgedy to better reflect the message of dinosaurs being animals and not monsters. They already showed the mass herbivore stampede when the kids were in their gyro balls. The destruction of the park and the deaths of some hundreds of guests could have been the result of one monster and a heap of paniking animals. A mass stampede could easily release more animals and destroy eletrical infastructure. If the chopper was closer to the avairy hole some pterasaurs in a panic to escape the indomitus rex and not compeehending helicopter design could have ran into the blades and been killed, and inadvertantly brought the chopper down. Making this a tradgedy for the pterasaurs, and the helicopter crew in Simon Masrani's attempt to slay the monster. Hell you could even have the finishing be Owen, Clare and the kids in a surreal scene of them walking through the scene of absolute carnage whilst the carnivores of the park go to work cleaning up the mess.(I'm imagining dead and dying herbivores from the stampede, fried dinosaurs from before mentioned eletrical hazards and the indomitus's trail of bodies)
I love your take on this! Much more realistic and exciting to watch.
@@Betweentheraindrops8 thank you, i personally think that with the indo-rex and the battle at the end it is vitally critical to end with the predators of the island as being just animals as well.
I agree. I say it all the time but it looks and feels like a Transformers fight. The cgi, the camera angles, the music. When Rexy arrived, it was way too happy. The music needed to be ominous in order to sell to us that this is more bad news...not their savior coming to rescue them. They should’ve used the dark music from The Lost World where the Buck breaks free from the cargo hold and leaves the ship.
I think while Indy was trying to grab the boys, we have Claire run open to the Rex gate and wait with the flare. We see the gate open, see glowing eyes, and Claire takes off without waiting. We don’t see her make contact with Rexy and start running; we cut back to Indy trying to grab the boys. Then we hear the classic rex roar and it’s quiet. This causes the boys and Indy to stop moving, and Indy’s hand hovers there in front of them. She looks next to her and we see a flare on the ground, already thrown down next to her. Claire is already hiding behind the trees. Owen stands up and sees her, in disbelief she freed a rex. Crying, she WHISPERS “Run!”
We hear Rexy’s steps, and the music takes that ominous tone we heard in TLW. Rexy busts through the spino skeleton in full motion much like the Buck burst through the warehouse. There’s no slow motion, no loud music, no posing to roar. Once she sees Indy the low music stops.
They size each other up and here’s where there are parts of the fight I liked, such as them roaring at each other and Rexy making the first move to protect her territory, overwhelming Indy who isn’t used to a large predator with that much power so she uses her powerful arms to push Rexy’s head away, then Rexy being overwhelmed by Indy who would immediately go for the kill rather than intimidation. But Blue appearing alone after being that badly injured and not even ambushing Indy but full-on shrieking and leaping at her from the front? Nope. I understand some animals do indeed keep getting up and fighting but this would not be that situation. I think if Owen were to shoot at Indy, or Barry appeared and found them and started shooting at her, this could serve as the distraction. If we need to hear Blue, make it her calling out for her pack not knowing they were just killed while she was down. Any of this could distract Indy to look up after she knocked down Rexy. This could’ve resulted in Rexy taking that moment to bite down on Indy’s hand above her and not let go, completely crushing it as we hear Indy roar in pain. Rexy uses her foot to kick Indy and knock her down next to her while still clamping down on her hand. Rexy stands up, still holding Indy’s hand, and places her foot onto Indy’s ribs to hold her there but Indy stabs her foot with her other hand, causing Rexy to let go and step back. As Indy attempts to stand, Rexy grabs her and continues to toss her into buildings closer and closer to the lagoon. The result is the same, with the mosa being attracted to the sound of Indy crashing above and dangling her tail over the edge. Mosa grabs Indy by the tail, and uses all its weight to pull her down into the water. No weird heroic music buildup, no weird money-shot of all 4 of them roaring at each other while the mosa leaps up. No staring contest between Rex and Blue. Rex just hobbles off and Blue is seen in the back by Owen hobbling off too after being bitch-slapped earlier. He’s thankful she’s alive, but doesn’t see her afterwards.
@@Betweentheraindrops8personally i was keeping this part in the too hard basket along with the raptors going traitor(which has the troubling implications that Owen taught them how rocket launchers work and that they fully understood such instruction lol). i totally agree, the rex should be much more menacing, its not a returned hero, its an animal it has killed and eaten people in the past, it'll do it again. the shooting could have had more effect in the fight. I just got the impression that Owen was literally just blasting away into the night sky. Could made it convincing that the bullets are hitting the thing, show some impacts, but the indo is moving and its really big and he does not do much immediate damage (yeah he'd caused some serious internal injuries and the indomituswill probably die, but nothing immediately debilitating as to interfere much with the fight, but do cause a distraction for the trex to deliver more immediately debilitating attacks such as crushing an arm to uselessness or ripping it off(age rating is a bit of a hard limit here as ever). You could also have blue sucseed in actually blinding or half blinding it too. That way by the time the mosasaur makes its enterance you have all 3 parties have had a satisfying amount of participation in the fight. The indo is pretty screwed but opts to fight on like the movie monster it was made as meaning that it mught die, but it might kill everyone else before it does. Then bam mosasaur.
With the 2nd movie in mind i think one of the last scenes(I'd have cut the scene in the hanger in Costa Rica)need to be as they are leaving the island, and despite the horrors of that previous night Clare looks out and sees more importantly is seen to appreciate the majesty of the animals in their new found freedom on their island, whilst Owen head down, or towards their destination does not. You could also do something with the brothers.
The whole raptor pack turning on the team wasn’t actually bad for me. It was a fun surprise. How to explain it though...I’m not sure. How did she speak to the raptors, never having formed language with them before? Even humans who aren’t socialized won’t learn to speak with other humans. Kind of like Genie, the feral child. Indy would be Genie in this case. If maybe it was established that the raptors and Indy had their paddocks close enough to communicate for the last few years, maybe. It would’ve also been cool to see all 3 raptors in the end survive. Maybe while they’re fighting that’s when they all freeze, looking in the direction of Rexy as she walks down the dark tunnel to Main Street. Claire could’ve gotten around the raptors and Indy while fighting, or she could’ve thrown the flare at them and stayed perfectly still in the dark tunnel so Rexy didn’t see her and just followed the flare to where it landed.
That way, Rexy comes out trying to scare them all off, and Indy makes the first move or loudest response...causing Rexy to focus on her instead of the raptors. As they fight, raptors try to avoid getting stomped and attack Indy’s flank, knowing she’s a bigger threat than Rexy. Once Rexy gets the upper hand, we have an all-out attack of a raptor pack and a rex all fighting to take down Indy, the raptors sticking to the outside as to not get trampled or holding on to the top of Indy. Then mosa comes in and finishes it. Coordinated inter-species attacks aren’t unheard today.
The raptors are beat up, and give Rexy a wide berth as they walk around her. She eyes them as they do so. The 3 of them survive and take off into the jungle and Rexy walks off in the opposite direction.
"Nothing in Jurassic World is natural!"
-Dr.Henry Wu 2015
I hope more people will relise that in their braindead heads that it's not about the accuracy it's about a fun
His dialogue was the only good spoken lines in the movie, they clearly tried to have Dr Wu echo the character discussions in the first movie there.
@@supertrike5893 You call them "braindead" just because they care about the subject matter, and not about the fun that is presented. People who just wanted to turn their brain off and have fun is fine, just don't compare one target audience to another and saying that the people who cared are braindead and inferior. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Even if the film is solely made for fun, there will always be people who will care about accuracy, logic, themes, plot holes, and characters, and not just the loud noise and big dumb fun. And that is fine, film is subjective and those types of people are normal. Calling these people "braindead" just because they do not appreciate the film, cared too much, or just because they are not the film's target audience is just insulting and ridiculous.
If you want Camp Cretaceous, they make Wu kind of a nut
He’s obsessed with his hybrids and doesn’t really respect his creations as animals
Spoiler:
He also made a hybrid before the I-rex called the Scorpius Rex that he cryogenically froze because it was “too dangerous and unpredictable” which kinda seems outside of his established character
@@normalhuman9878tbf, it did try to kill him at one point.
I’m watching this video a year late, and I 100% agree about the pterosaurs, but not with the rex. I highly recommend checking out Klayton Fioriti’s interview about paleontological accuracy of the T. rex in JP with a paleontologist (I believe his guest was a paleontologist). He describes that T. rex was one of the only carnivores that wouldn’t stand down from a fight most of the time, although I don’t fully remember the quote. I would also “argue” that the Indominus was trying to communicate with the rex like she had with the raptors, but that’s just speculation!
but trex should'nt be standing and keep going after so many fatal injury and bites wounds to their neck, its just straight up transformers movie for me.
would be cool if the result of the fight gave trex a long lasting effect to her body, not just a cool scar...maybe cripple legs, broken hips, deformed face or lost an eye. its would made the fight less pointless
@@kadalsaurus6232 it probably did have a lot of broken bones after the fight, but it didn’t really matter anyway since all of the other predators on the island were way smaller than the T. rex and wouldn’t really stand much of a chance against her unless she was teamed on.
the t rex was telling the indominus to get out of here. now the indominus wasn't about to be second in command to this random tyrannosaurus.
True.
"Every pteranodon and their mother said 'Get to da choppa!'" - GDELB
Okay, I am going to push back a little on this. With the pterosaurs. The I-Rex literally broke into their cage and started roaring and chomping at them. ANY animal capable of flight would’ve tried to fly away, and away, is also out through the hole in the aviary and away from their nests and stuff (seeing as most animals today leave their nest as soon as a predator gets to it, it’s not unlikely they’d abandon their nests also. As for the helicopter scene, it COULD be interpreted as them, not necessarily attacking it, but more like just running into it in their panic. And the end with the T-Rex fight can be explained if the Indominus had charged first (which I think she did). A T-Rex seeing another large carnivore charging it, would’ve prompted a charge and an attack too.
Rexy charged first
17:30 He was the worst. He was like that one spot on your back that you can't reach but then you eventually get it.
So, you know how you said JP3 has the Pteradons act more like real animals because they didn't attack the helicopter?
Yeah... That was supposed to be the third act. It was in the script and everything but they blew the budget which is why that movie is the shortest in the franchise.
tbh you saying godzilla is a mosnter is kinda unfair, hes actually pretty chill and only fights to protect the earths balance
Even then he gets pretty pissed and goes on a massive rampage if someone _does_ screw with the balance.
@@masterofgaburincho yeah but that’s because either 1: A giant three headed dragon from space is coming to kill earth or is being resurrected, 2: a gigantic robot or cyborg is terrorizing everything on the planet, 3: a monster came out of earth and has a want to kill, or 4: human op must stop.
Depends on version really. Sometimes Godzilla is hero, sometimes beast full of rage, sometimes straight up sadist, sometimes apocalypse istself...but yeah monsterverse version is fighting to restore balance
He’s a neutral force that keeps the world balanced
Like, well, a god
i mean in the new movies yes but the original movie he is a pure monster
Despite Planet Dinosaur showing off the killing ALOT, it's still one amazing documentary.
No
@@ONYX_Maximus Ever hear an opinion? Mine doesn't match yours, deal with it.
@@vesuvius115 it’s so bad
@@ONYX_Maximus Its really not. Opinions are opinions for a reason. People have different ideas, if you can't live with that, you need to grow up.
@@vesuvius115 its so bad
I find it very sad how the indominus Rex’s death is treated as a victory. Like she didn’t ask to be made y’know, and the park is still destroyed, hundreds of people are injured or killed, and Simon is dead. This is a bad ending right?
I agree. I never saw Indominous death as victory. It was quite poetic and sad. She is human creation. Something that never existed and never should exist. All she know was laboratory and her own small cage.
I love your video man and I respect a lot of things you said in this video and brought up some good points, but I really love this franchise even more it's just fun, so no offense but I don't care what anyone says I love JP and JW to heart.
Still great video, I subscribe now
Actualy, the thing with Vastatosaurus was Made on purpose (even the designer of the Vastatosaurus say that put Osteoderms in a Theropod is stupid)
Ceratosaurus would have a word with you
@@JacobKaiju and carnotaurus
@@giovannia.casula2542 carnotaurus lacked ‘osteoderms’ but had large, round scales that appeared like them.
I agree. Jurassic World had a pretty cool premise, and the contrast between the monstrous Indominus rex and the (somewhat) natural dinosaurs could've been an interesting theme. But alas, we got a mindless action movie with little to no focus on anything other than dinosaurs killing people and each other.
bro i have been watching your videos for like 3 hours and seeing the progression of your quality is amazing.
I’ve been a huge fan of dinosaurs since I was 4 years old, and I still don’t quite think I have completely realized what dinosaurs really were. I grew up watching the Jurassic movies and I can’t bring myself to dislike them over something as small as not being realistic. I think the first two work as true dinosaur movies, being actual movies with ideas. While the others are just for when your wanting Dinosaurs action, just being Hollywood blockbusters. Anyway, whenever when the day comes that I truly understand, I’m sure I will still enjoy everything from the Jurassic franchise (even Fallen Kingdom) all though only two are good dinosaur movies, and that’s fine, you can be someone who wants truly fantastic movies, or just a good ride, I like to think I’m a bit of both, and it’s fine to just be one. I will admit the JW villains suck.
16:30-17:00 but that is what we're seeing. If you pay close attention to the initial confrontation, it opens with the t rex roaring and the I rex roaring in response, ending in the 2 roaring at each other. According to Camp Cretaceous, Rexy's territory on nublar is the main park, therefore, this is a territorial dispute. On top of this, after the 2 roar at each other, the I rex roars in response to their intimidations. Given an I rex can speak with t rex similarly to how it can speak and negotiate with raptors, the roaring before the fight is a message of "fck you" to the t rex. Given the initial roaring from both of them being equivalent to " Your last chance to negotiate," Rexy would take the I rex roaring as "welp, it was worth a shot" followed by the fight. The intimidation/negotiation was short, but it's there if you look for it.
I didn't like the movie for 2 points: the raptors just switch sides and join the indomitus rex, who despite never having been taught any social skills can magically communicate with them, and they turn on Owen and then they backflip for no real reason at the end of the film. And secondly because of the pteradon attack.
Indominus: [roars a suggestion]
Raptors: What is he saying? Is that a regional dialect? Anyone here speak that?
"she can communicate with them! she's part raptor"
"and i'm 12.5% mexican on my mom's side but i don't know shit about spanish"
@@dracodracarys2339 lmao this reminded me of South Park
The raptors actually didn't just switch sides and join the Indominus rex. When the Indominus tried to communicate with them, they actually were looking back at Owen because they were confused. However, a few moments later the humans opened fire. Not until then the raptors join the Indominus and attack the humans.
@@dracodracarys2339 lol 😆 right xD
Very slight changes could’ve changed the pterosaur scene, like the gunner shooting at the pterosaurs first spooking them so they hit the helicopter, or instead of outright attacking main street stealing people food and perching on buildings spooking the guest, and then the en sighting panic and stampede of guests is our danger set piece, also if the indominous attacked the Rex first it would’ve been better than both attacking at once
Walking With Dinosaurs was the beginning of the fight back to disprove dinosaur media narratives, and the first realistic and successful documentary.
8:29 Jurassic world dominion prologue: I’m about to end this mans whole statement
I would love realistic behaviors but I’m also a sucker for action so I guess you take what you can get
I believe when the i-rex broke into the pterosaur enclosure & started attempting to kill the pterosaurs, they panicked. when you panic, you tend to lose a bit of your critical thinking. the pterosaurs flew away because of the i-rex. & panicking probably made them attack the visitors of the park.
EDIT: the t rex was confirmed to have attacked the i rex for territorial reasons, & that's about all I can say for confirmation. it's portrayed she was overwhelmed by the i rex's vicious nature. when blue attacks the i rex, the t rex starts using full force & slamming the i rex into buildings & shit. the indominus is not how a normal dinosaur would act. the t rex was trying to intimidate the indominus & attacked when she wouldn't back away
Did you ever see Mauler's review of Fallen Kingdom? It's hilarious.
at this point the Jurassic World franchise can honestly just throw all semblance of scientific accuracy to the wind and go straight to cyborg dinosaurs with lasers in space and shapeshifting dino-human hybrids who are also wild-west gunslingers played by Kevin Bacon and John Cena. they've shown again and again that they don't care about scientific accuracy, and portray completely awesomebro things, so...just stop pretending to be realistic and go 200% awesomebro, it'd be more entertaining that way, and we can just watch documentaries for proper realism
I kinda doubt dinosaurs were that smart. I have chickens as pets, and some of them are decently smart, but obviously nowhere near as smart as the velociraptors in this franchise. It makes sense that dinosaurs wouldn't be geniuses that immediately can detect humans in a two mile radius, since it's not rare to see animals in the wild doing dumb stuff to.
True, but then again, humans: the smartest beings this planet has ever seen can be extremely stupid.
@@TheGunslinger44 Another example of animals being dumb
Crows are reasonably intelligent, maybe the raptors in JP have corvid DNA in their makeup.
Well creatures like crows, which are decendants of dinosaurs are highly intelligent. Also due to recent studies scientists think trex might have been as smart as a chimp
@@TheRealKing98453 No. That's definitely not true. The most a Tyrannosaurus might've been smart as is a songbird.
An alternative scene where the pterosaurs crash into walls or signs because of stress from hearing hundreds of people scream in panic. The scene woukd be more of a tragedy rather than an action sequence.
I think it's funny how he thought that Jurassic world dinosaurs will never have feathers if you could time travel he would be very shocked
I love that he says that JW will never have feathered dinos. Little did he know they would be in Dominion!!!
Still a shit movie
Here’s my theory:
The Tyrannosaurus (Like @LolloBlie96 said) was territorial, and fought the Indominus for territory, but didn’t know that the Indominus was trying to kill them and only noticed when Blue tried to help her
Virtually all the inaccuracies of Jurassic Park/World's dinosaurs can be explained by the fact that those animals are not and never will be authentic dinosaurs.
They are artificial, man-made creatures that required genes from modern day animals.
This was fully fleshed out in the book, but not the films unfortunately. The T-Rex's movement based vision was the result of having foreign genes used to grow it.
The sci-fi element of the story provides a perfect excuse that also leaves room for commentary.
So honestly, for all intents and purposes, the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are all accurate enough imo. The story has never been about literal dinosaurs.
I agree with mostly everything within this video besides the final battle between Tyrannosaurus and Indominus. It seems this video completely ignores the fact that, all be it very short, there was evidence for Tyrannosaurus attempting to scare off the Indominus as she slowly approached hoping to bush Indominus back. I find the argument for a "realistic territorial dispute" between the two to be a rather mute point since, as explain in this very video, Indominus has no interest in territory nor backing down from fights but rather instigating those battles for its own want and need for death.
Let's also keep in mind that the reasoning for predators choosing not to fight to the death but rather intimidate one another is also rather mute. There is loads of evidence to show that any carnivore when faced with another, regardless of species, is going to act hostile due to one important thing, competition. Tyrannosaurus itself is a good example as it is theorized to be highly territorial to others of its own kind and age due to the sheer amount of prey it would need to sustain itself. Let us also not forget about Majungasaurus, a Dinosaur that takes these points to the extreme by cannibalizing its own kind.
Dinosaurs aren't bloodthirsty monsters, this much is true however, battles between carnivores are bound to happen especially when these carnivores are as big as most Theropod Dinosaurs. Bigger bodies means more food and territory which thus means more competition between individuals and the best way to stop competition is to kill the competitor. The only and best way for carnivores to avoid competition and likely death from one another is by evolving to sustain less sustainable niches within their ecosystem, a great example of this is Spinosaurus, one of the largest carnivorous Dinosaurs sustaining a semiaquatic piscivore niche. Spinosaurus had no need to compete with other carnivorous Dinosaurs besides the occasional acceptations and thus was generally able to live in relative peace.
Something to mention is the concept of territories. From Rexy's perspective, another apex predator has boundary stomped, invaded her territory, and challenged her. That could merit a response that goes past a threat display.
I find it funny how Red Raptor gets the concept of dinosaurs being animals too, but balks at the idea of two animals attacking each other as soon as they are in range, because clearly that has never happened in the history of ever /s.
firstly, the majungasaurus evidence was likely just a scavenged meal or the killing of an sick/elderly dinosaur. Secondly, wouldn’t it be better for both creatures to mark their boundaries? At the very least, they wouldn’t fight to the death. Imagine, say, a giganotosaurus has invaded a t-rex’s territory (despite them living at different times and places, this is purely hypothetical). If they fight to the death, no one wins with both getting seriously injured. If they leave each other alone, then all goes well unless there isn’t enough food in the split territory. In that case, both dinosaurs would occasionally when necessary fight/threaten each other for a small amount of the territory, reverting back after a while once they’d had their share. This sort of back and forth ‘truce’ would go on for a while, until either one died of natural causes or took too long before making their threat displays. Here, they may go for a fight, but would likely be even more injured in their starving state and eventually succumb to their wounds. The other dinosaur wouldn’t go out of their way to finish them off, a few deep scratches and a bite mark or broken bone would likely spell game over for the attacker and it would be too risky to go further.
@@carrott36 The problem with your argument is you act as if Indominus Rex acts like a normal animal. Yes, in a realistic scenario with two large carnivores, they'd spread out their territory as to not compete with one another. However, Indominus Rex showed absolutely no signs of even making territory, she just went from location to location killing all over the island. She had no need for territory either due to her bloodlust or because, as stated in the film, she doesn't understand what she is and how to act. This is an animal that reacts to even the most basic of stimuli with violence because, that's all she has to protect herself from something she doesn't understand. She doesn't know how large carnivores are supposed to interact with one another or even how she's supposed to act as one herself, she didn't have a parental or even sibling figure to teach her and find comfort with. The only reason not all the Dinosaurs on the island are like this is most likely due to their deep seeded instincts that lays within their very genetic code. This instinctual code could've very well been terminated in the creation of Indominus Rex and possibly all hybrids from the films.
@@alienstar2088 Okay, it's just you said the best way to go about someone being in your territory is to kill them, which is wildly not true. Also, Rexy WAS a normal dinosaur. I'd have been perfectly happy if they'd roared at each other, then the indo begins to back off. Rexy, satisfied, turns her back to go back the way she came, maybe reaching out her head to snag Blue in a very intense scene, before the indominus launches herself back at Rexy. To make it then clear that indy wasn't trying to help blue, we can have maybe one of the other pack members alive at this point and she kills that one without a second thought.
@@carrott36 In response to Rexy being hyper aggressive, think about other animals that exist today. Lions will push out their young adults in order to preserve balance within the pride. They can do this knowing the young Lion lacks the experience and strength the adults do. Odds are, Tyrannosaurus could identify Indominus' age and, according to instinctual knowledge, perform the same action based upon that information.
If you knew you were older, bigger and had more experience than your opponent than there'd be no reason to back down. They are a threat simply by existing. Imagine if a Tyrannosaurus allowed a younger rival to simply leave the territory, what if it came back when it was older and become twice as hard to take down?
Threat displays are only used when both opponents are equal because that leads to equal chances of damage and death for both parties involved. The same risks are not given when there is a gap in age, sex, experience or even species. Whilst Tyrannosaurus wasn't a cannibal, it was most likely highly aggressive to it's own species when not a mating pair.
I think theirs a way to fix the helicopter and the park attack scene maybe instead of it showing the Pteranodon attacking the helicopter it shows them bumping into it like since they're trying to get away from the I-rex as fast as possible they keep accidentally hitting NOT on purpose and it shows some flying into the jungle and shows some flying over the tourists and out towards sea and the I-Rex follows the Pteranodon leading it to the tourists which shows the attacks BOOM fixed
The mother was another dinosaur that refused to listen, but baby S-Rex was tameable
Dude, how do you only have a few thousand subscribers??? Your content is criminally underrated. Your video was very well made and honestly should be a lot more popular than it is. :D
"like that is ever gonna happen"
JWD Theri and Pyroraptor:hold my beer
“Jurassic world hate from the trope of dinosaurs are monsters trope”
-dinosaurs continues to randomly attack people during the entire movie.
I mean its nothing new. In the original movie characters were constantly attacked by dinos. T rex and Dilo were just hungry but Raptors were acting like antagonistic monsters that not only kill for food but they seem to enjoy it way too much. Idk why so many people ignore that
If there are two indoraptors one maybe a S-Raptor as Owen saw the way to give them a heir was blood samples, and a raptor wanted to help lay the eggs
4:13 i wouldn't put the movie "Dinosaur" there since in the context of the movie it makes sense why the carnos act like that. They are in the middle of a drought probably as hungry, thirsty and exhausted as the herd itself
I know the Dora movie is bad but you got to admit both of the quick sand scenes were very funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I actually really enjoyed it lol
16:34 I disagree with you The reason rexy Attacks the irex is because Claire throat the flare at the irex and a flare signals food for rexy so she was attempting to eat
King kongs retro dinos are fully intentional though, its more speculative evo than just innacurate dinos
8:33 It’s nice they in the trailer for the new movie we do see some dinosaurs with feathers although they could obviously look a lot better
It could be argued for the initial attack on the helicopter that the arkosaurs were panicking, and perceieved the large, loud and strange flying object as a threat. As for the attack in the park i have no defense for. But as others have mentioned, as for the Rex vs Indo, remember that Jurassic Park's universe is different from ours, and in the JP Universe, T. Rex is very territorial (see: LW Buck and Doe). Rexy starts out trying to scare the indominous off, before she's injured and realizes the indo is a genuine threat and not just a rival, at which point she fights with no holds barred.
8:26 It looks more like a cross between a Kangaroo, an Ostritch, and a Ground Sloth IMO😂
Didn't the second Land Before Time have two Tyrannosaurus looking for their kid, Chomper, and leave when they did?
I remember that now! I believe there was a third sharp tooth that was the actual bad guy who wanted to eat them but chompers parents come to the rescue.
I loved Chomper
Named my pet bearded dragon Chomper
“It would been better if the rex and the i rex try to scare each other off by roaring.” Expect that they do that in the movie, they roar at each other in two different scenes, I can’t defend the pteranodon scene but the rex vs I rex fight was good visually and meaningful, (not with the deepest meaning) I think that yes the I rex tried to subdue rexy like she did with the raptor but since rexy isn’t really a pack animal due to the fact she always live by herself, like Owen says in the movie both of them really never met a top predator before, plus in the canon I feel like the dinosaurs didn’t back up just for the simple reason that it may be their last shot to take the I rec down due to her almost invincible resilience, (she took a fucking ankylosaurus’s whip to the face, the same whip could have killed an adult rex, just saying) by the messages part I feel like it just a “nature fixing itself like in Godzilla, let them fight, some says that it’s a “old one always better” situation by letting the old rex win but blue and the mosa are new generations so I don’t know where that complain is coming from, thought I feel like your essay was well put through but not thought enough. It feel like you just watch a couple of times.
The reason the Indominus Rex being such a monster actually works is because it’s not a real animal, it’s a hybrid. She’s doesn’t even know what she is and it also proves that the point of the Jurassic World movies is that we haven’t learned our lesson from creating dinosaurs.
8:30 well this aged well
Personally had the Indominus Rexes had been raised correctly it wouldn't had been a monster.
Why would good cost this dinosaur's future? Why did someone make a story that hybrids can be good, and then have the modern age message of pets and how baby pets can be bad. Another dinosaur of her breed is just a I-Rex
Big Theropods didn't figth against each outher? Tell this Sue, and ask her who crushed her Skull.
Love this take on JW. This was my exact sentiment when I saw it in theaters. They threw out the plot here and went straight for a kaiju/Transformers fight at the end. Plus I couldn’t stand the overuse of cgi. The raptors looked crazy, and they were constantly snarling like dogs and moving their tails like cats 🥴. Also, no use of animatronic for the indominus?? Really?? We waited 14 years for this and there are multiple animatronic indominus heads and full-sized bodies in Universal rides now...but nothing for the movie??
And they managed to completely f up Fallen Kingdom. My god, what a disaster.
I know it’s a lot to ask but I’d love to know how you’d rewrite that movie, much like you gave us rewrites in Jurassic Fight Club.
Would you do a video on everything you’d change FK?
You’re over analyzing the Rex and I Rex fight. It’s a reasonable assumption, given the scarring found on the muzzles of almost every adult tyrannosaurus skull that’s been found, that a Rex wouldn’t back down and would choose to fight. If you want scientific accuracy, go read a paper published about Rex behavior. These, at the end of the day, are movies meant to entertain, they’re not here to show what the scientific understanding of the time.
Kind of why I place JW1 higher than any of its sequels. There was something there that made it truly feel like Jurassic in its execution that reflects the morals of neglecting the animals of what they're genetically coded to live as and the psychology behind them, but ultimately threw it out to be a modern action film for the sake of being a modern action film in most parts. You can retort that Dominion does the same exact thing, but then the action aspect overshadows everything else from there. It doesn't redeem itself to make me feel better seeing the JP rex finding its own kind because I already saw dinosaurs littering casually roaming the streets of Malta and a predictably bland fight with a less than menacing "antagonist" dino. Even the Extended Edition didn't bother to patch much up other than make the film more clear for people who watch these films without a brain.
Pryoraptor watching this bee like :Yea that never happen
The thing we should understand about T-rex confrontation with Indominus was that it was absolutely a territorial dispute between two large predators that Rexy saw as a rival. It is canon in the JP series that Rexes are highly territorial and aggressive towards each other unless they are a mating pair, of course. If you listen to Indominus it was clearly mimicking the vocals of the T-rex in a bid to force it to back down. Another factor that is keeping me from harping on JW behaviors is how Ngens carnivores behaviors are portrayed. In the "Jurassic Park novel" by Micheal Chriton, Dr. Henry Wu wasn't certain if the behaviors of his dinosaurs were their actual behavioral patterns. When he saw the tactical nature of the raptors, he was forced to question if this was how they behaved in the past. For me and anyone else who studies animals, the raptors' violent nature goes well beyond most animals we know of. To the point of having a very rogue disposition with not even pack mates are safe from one another and the idea that they would ignore self-preservation to attack a T-rex. I felt inclined to ignore the nonsense of the pterosaurs because I doubt a pack of compys would swarm attack an individual or really desperate pteranodon would mob a person for food in JP3.
I understand about your reason with the pterosaurus attacking the people instead of flying away. But this is a movie after all since you needs animals to act unrealistic for sake of tension, action and entertainment for the movie audience.
Jurassic Park was no different to Jurassic World about animals acting like monsters.
Here are some examples,
T.rex smashing a tree through while chasing a jeep with no injury.
The raptors hunting the kids when they already killed 2 people and even ignored a table full of food.
Dilphosaurus playing peek a boo behind a tree and aswell it just "happens" to enter Dennis jeep with no explanation of how it got in there.
Thank you. It seems people forget that JP and JW are fictional entertainment movies and not dinosaur documentaries. If they all acted like realistic animals then the tension would deflate really quickly. The I-rex would've been killed early on, the pterosaurs would've scattered, the raptors wouldn't have "switched sides" and attack the soldiers, instead they'd likely try to get away from the danger for the sake of self-preservation and Blue's return at the final battle wouldn't have happened as she'd realize that the I-rex would be way out of her league.
This isn't a fault of the movie, it's just the way it is. Action movies and war movies wouldn't be the same either if they followed realism. In 90% of action movies the hero would likely be dead after the first big fight for example.
For #3... the Dilophosaur in the Jeep was not the same as the Dilophosaur that spat at Nedry if the game is any indication.
@@GilgameshofBabylon
I don't think that game ever established, the dilo in the jeep was a different one. Also the game is "soft canon" and more like a "what if" scenario.
@@RyanTheSergal This is really dishonest. I don't think anyone wants the movies to be like documentaries. You can't compare a few really minor flaws that could actually be explained away easily with the problems in Jurassic World. The raptors in JP could just be surplus hunting, something animals do or could just be exploring a new location. They are portrayed as intelligent animals and intelligent animals tend to be really curious. The dilophosaurus scene isn't even a flaw. There was a good amount of time between Nedry stumbling up to the jeep and wiping his eyes for the dilo to get into the Jeep through an open window. And I am not even going to explain the scene with the T rex.
Comparing these to all of the stupid shit that happens in Jurassic World is mindbogglingly dishonest. Y'know like the raptor teaming up with the T rex to take down the I rex for some reason.
@@saisameer8771 I wouldn't say dishonest. Saying I am being dishonest implies I wasn't being honest with my thoughts, whilst infact I was being honest with my own thoughts, which, perhaps weren't too well thought out.
Thinking over your argument I do see your point and I even concede that I agree and was a bit ignorant in my original comment. It definitely seems like the francise has changed significantly from a more realistic view of intelligent, dangerous animals not used to/evolved to fear humans introduced into a foreign ecosystem because of human carelessness, wrecking havoc amongst unprepared survivors, to a more unrealistic, cheesy, dumbed down action/ sci-fi flick.
(though luckily it never went as dumb/bad as the proposed original sequels to JP 2 and 3.)
I think I was a little blinded by my love for the franchise as a whole, as I personally love every installment aside from 3. I can now definitely see the flaws and why more critical fans (especially fans of the original) would dislike the new direction of the JW series. However, I stand by my opinion that I still love the JW series of films, despite their flaws. I seperate the JP/JW series a lot from actual paleontological media. I recognize that JW is highly unrealistic, even compared to the original trilogy. Still, I love the movies and remain a fan of both series.
Planet dinosaur isn't all bad because it does focus on recent discovers
11:02 made me cringe so hard I almost died 😂
It was a terattoriel battle between trex and irex they roared at each other three times
You make a good point these are not monsters they are animals just like anything else here on the planet
One thing I hate about the Jurassic World movies is they portray there quadrupedal herbivores galloping.
"Feathers[...]like that's ever going to happen." Pyroraptor JW Dominion. This didn't age well.
Pterosaurs escaping and massacring people wasn't that far from reality though , it's not a single creature running after all those humans , there are hundreds of those trying to hunt for themselves and they have lived all their lives in captivity which can also mess with their behaviour considerably and make them more violent (like how orcas never attack humans in the wild , but orca attacks in captivity are a pretty common thing)
Not to mention that they were all released suddenly and had to escape the indom causing them to act strangely amid the chaos
And then, they say her clone however like many man-made animals can be bred for a job/beneficial working animal or live stock. Unbelievable that a good hybrid story the hybrids have the opposite ending
Out of all of three Jurassic world movies fallen kingdom cause it’s tone was more horror based and how it shifts to two different movies in one like the first half the end of Isla Nublar the end of the island that started it all and the fate of an endangered cloned extinct species and the other half a horror movie monster and a beginning of a new world of humans and dinosaurs coexisting there are some ideas and plot that isn’t fully fleshed out even with some characters but it’s the concept of it that makes it so fun to watch and the Indoraptor is my favorite hybrid dinosaur it was scary and cool I wish we got more of him and him using his abilities cause they never explore it at all and although it’s a prototype the fact that it was meant for war and it was kept in captivity where it couldn’t use it’s many skills cause it wasn’t in a open environment and wasn’t put on many field like test it would’ve been interesting if it survived to see if we could expand on people’s desire for using dinosaurs as weaponry with Indoraptor and instead of locus the main threat is a virus from dinosaurs made by Dodgson released onto the world and the Indoraptor has a gene in it’s blood to cure it and it still needs to be engineered with beta’s blood to it can more adaptive immunity to the virus to make a cure
What do you mean dinosaur treated it’s animals like monsters? The Carnotaurus and the raptors both hung back against the larger herd and only picked off lone individuals. It’s part of the plot.
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i love Jurassic world.
Wow plot twist entertainment huh
Dinosaur films and shows and shows like Jurassic park and Jurassic park and Jurassic world or the whole reason why I wrote my book Bandit’s Legacy. To give people a more realistic perspective on what these animals may have actually been like.
The only reptiles I can think of that have warm blood are birds and tegus
Except that Jurassic park is self aware that it’s dinosaurs aren’t real dinosaurs as Henry Wu said in Jurassic world when he says “nothing in Jurassic world is real”
As much as it aimed for a healthy diet at first, the movie wanted to have it’s cake and eat it too.
That saying was always stupid.
@@cristhianmlr Still applies in this case.
@@Dinoslay No, because it makes no sense.
@@cristhianmlr I would consider you toxic.
@@LeoTheYuty Imagine using toxic still unironically.
Every other dinosaur will raise their families, and so will the dinosaurs they lost with their spirt hatchlings
tlbt i think sharptooth being like that makes sense because its about as big as bigfoots mother who is an apatosaurus
AND it would need ALOT ALOT ALOT of food
Like seriously tho. Jurassic series isn't about realism.
"modern birds, which are considered dinosaurs" they _are_ dinosaurs. in modern day there is no debate about this
Quick heads up. I know you are referring to Dino Thunder but, I think that it would somewhat please you to know that in the Japanese version the Dino Zord are alive and are treated as animals at first until there intelligence is revealed.
I think the pteranodons and dimorphodons attacked the people because they wanted revenge like it's possible that they went under abuse before being put in the aviary and in Jurassic park 3 Alan Grant said that the raptors were smarter than primates which that might also be the case with the other dinosaurs and due to abuse they carnivores wanted revenge !
Ironic how wrong you was about Planet Dinosaur.
We know this because you rated it B in your accuracy rankings.
Planet Dinosaur is a GOAT.
To defend the pterosaur attack scene, there was some reasoning for it. Klaytons done a video about it, so give that a watch & maybe you wouldn’t feel & think the pterosaurs were attacking for no reason. Because they did had a reason to attack maybe?
These films are made for entertainment first and accuracy second.
For example the Raptors and Dilophosaurus.
This is awesome man
Actually i WAS NOT intelligent enough to understand the themes in this movie, or any others for that matter.
same
I think if they showed that they starved the pterosaurs to make them look skinnier and had the i Rex it would have worked better but still shouldn’t happen
Dinosaurs are animals, no (killing-)mashines. I think, all dinonaurs living in peace together, like lions, bears today. Paradiese. Thank You for this view. We humans took our sight over this 120 million years of creation in our view. That's lost. But it explain our human anger and fear.
You should review the Land Before Time movies and the Rite of Spring scene in Fantasia.
Like thats ever gonna happen... pyroraptor moment..
lol and 2 more. Theri and Quetz
@@nooglet5473 lol