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Also your correct in saying underwater failed because the dark Knight could start in the middle of action without status quo Because it spent a whole movie before it setting up Batman, sequels can start in the action
@@masterchieftheconqueror2631 Those sequels established rise of Batman where he took down a illuminati like cult but it didn't established how he is affecting mob. The prologue shows action, consequence and reaction. You are right as prequels set up world and characrers, best example is Infinity war
What if he was just a 14y old kid who just loved the Batman movie? Its also not wrong to be a bit dumb as an adult, you cant be an expert on everything.
@@__-fi6xg The person in question was not just expressing fan status of Batman, but rather using the Dark Knight to defend Underwater. And filmento singled out the user not for being a dumb hater, but for trying to offer an actual, although flawed, critique compared to just baseless whining and disagreement.
In reality, that dude is so intellectually inept that they woudln't even comprehend that this video was a major NO U sent to their face. Every day, the realization of just how low the average human intellect is, frightens me more and more
What I LOVED about The Dark Knight the first time I saw it was how EVERYONE, including Batman and the mob, underestimated the threat the Joker posed until it was too late. He blindsided the entire city to the point the mob was sort of on the side of the police by the end.
Honestly I find you one of the most level headed film critics on UA-cam. I feel most critics dont look deep enough in the politics, story, characters and just make a 2 dimensional argument why its bad/good. Rather you break down the elements and reasons why these characters or the story doesn't/does work. Your way of explaining is set in a good balance of great examples, point outs and various methods used to make films. Continue what you do!
He clearly has a strong psssion for films and so he puts more work into the reviews. This video is a great example 15 minutes talking about why a movies beginning is good without even going into detail about the rest of the plot
Right? Filmento is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam! I don’t agree with everything he says, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna talk trash on him lol difference of opinions is what makes us human.
@@DonVigaDeFierro kinda sad nolan has always wanted to make a new huge movie(like inception but it only lasted a few years, now most people have it a little forgotten; thats why they are gonna re release it when cinemas open again hahaha) but he will always be remember by this master piece of super hero movie, he is proud but by far he would like to have other gran opus for the audience and not just be "that batman director"
RAY ENG what are you talking about??? Almost 10 years have passed and Inception is STILL talked about till this day, that and it’s considered by many to be the greatest movie of last decade. Idk if you live under a rock but inception too is known for being a movie still controversial a decade after its release, just look at how many videos there are on it. TDK is just on a whole other spectrum though cause there’s so much to break down and comprehend due to the messages, villian, hero etc etc. (inception is also considered to be Nolan’s Magnum Opus as well)
Some geniuses were recognized because they stood on the shoulders of giants. Filmento went a step further and stood on the shoulders of haters. Great reversal video.
Then let’s introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos... I’m an agent of chaos. And you know the best part about chaos...it’s fair.
When you were talking about how joker needed his introduction, and just walking into the room would not have held any effect without it...… I just realized exactly how much that feels like some super hero movies. They just show up and since they know people probably already know everyone there is seldom a proper intro. No reason to care or understand, except what you know from the comics, which have no real bearing on the movie.
@Ilovesuperman In the MCU, he might age enough so we'll see him in his thirties. Nevertheless, the chance of him becoming a villain isn't high since Tony's death and the combined efforts of Vulture and Mysterio didn't break him down.
@Ilovesuperman He was going to college in the 2nd Sam Raimi movie. He's been at least a college age adult in almost the entire mainline comicbook run of the character. So it really depends on the incarnation.
I don't have any interest in writing a story in itself, but understanding how it's done let's me enjoy movies in a different way. Twitter is a really toxic platform. Don't let that keep you from doing what you love here on YT, your work is really appreciated here.
I haven´t seen much of your channel: I´m only recently starting to watch your content. So I don´t get any justifiable reason behind the "hate". Your videos look like very good quality, in my opinion. Twitter is a terrible platform, just keep that in mind. You could state something like: "I brushed my teeth today" and someone would find a reason to be offended and do everything in their power to share their misery. Keep up the good work!
problem? PROBLEM????? if anything, it's what movies need. better to have filmento than to have cinemasins take it a step further into parody content and people taking it as literal criticism. at least here there is a chance of real conversation or at least a real understanding of the thought process Filmento goes through.
So true also I'm not satisfayed with his "day in life" introduction. the action scene were he talk about movie his good to show what he is capable of but I still don't know what he want and what he need as a character (pretty weak introduction if you ask me). this is sad but I have to make a video "Filmento | Anatomy of a failure" with FAILURE in red in the thumbnail
There is also a problem of not getting a 'day in the life' part before Filmento dives right into the action, therefore missing the baseline of his character.
Filmento is without a doubt my favorite movie analysis channel. I learn genuine writing skills and he has his own little style of humor that adds to and enhances the videos. Can't see how he gets any hate at all, really. Everything he says is justifiable and fair.
I feel like a day in the life definitely offers a huge advantage in writing a story. I don’t think it’s absolutely essential because some pieces of art are good because they break rules. That’s the cool thing about story structure. A good writer can take any situation and make a great story out of it.
@@arandombard1197 exactly, you should know the rules and why they existed so you can start thinking about compensating the downsides of not having it, instead of 'oh well I hope it works out'
I still think there are some fundamental rules that must be kept though. Like every story must have a beginning and end. Otherwise, I can never see how that would work.
The thing is that still, you have to stablish the rules, which is a problem with most sequels this days: They don't stablish rules because you have to know them from the 15 movies and 3 TV series that came before. And that's stupid. You are supposed to make a movie selfcontained and for everyone, not just the guys that have maniacly followed your content for decades.
I don‘t know if such a movie really exists… Somehow I remember a movie that starts with a scene like in the kitchen where all the bad guys meet and talk about how the hero is messing with their businesses and they decide to work together and kill him. But after that we would go to a normal day of the hero which is interrupted by the bad guys‘ plan.
I genuinely don't understand why Filmento is getting so much hate, I've watched almost every video he's made, and in every single one he has made justifiable praise or criticism for whatever he might be talking about. I'm constantly nodding my head in agreement at least once or twice in every video. As somebody who has spent most of their early life learning about film and TV and studying it. He makes valid, strong arguments. While I might not agree with every single detail I acknowledge that Filmento has his own opinion. And that's fine. I know that this is the internet and people get pissy about everything. But any haters reading this. Fuck yourself and give the guy some space. He doesn't deserve hate from you just because you disagree with what he said in a video. If you don't like his content, then go, don't watch him again. Just be the better man/woman and leave him be. He undoubtedly puts a lot of effort into his videos as do most content creators on youtube. So respect that, and if you don't like him. Leave. I get that quarantine is boring, but maybe you could find another pass-time that doesn't involve making other people's lives misery! P.S keep it up filmento, you are a fantastic content creator, never change!
The female symbol on the foreheads of the protagonist of Underwater and Charlie's Angels in his thumbnails, followed by the word FAILURE in big red letters. That's pretty much it. The rest is just people watching the video and trying to pick up things as to discredit his opinions, out of the idea that doing so they'll also shut down the "Feminism is a failure" imagery in thoses thumbnails.
Because he isn't a sick puppy sjw like the rest of the film channel wise guys cough ' just write' cough. Filmento is a good dude,has no agenda which makes him NOT one of them= an enemy.
This analysis taught me things about the Dark Knight, a movie I've seen more times than probably any other (a low bar, not a movie person), and I'm very happy for it. Also, your comment on defining technical terms is very important. Always gotta do it, never assume people know what you mean without clarifying
@Rajnoor Brar There are 22 pixar rules of story telling. My absolute favorate one is "A great hero is admired more for their failures than their successes". That one is very close to my heart. It means that you will suck at first and fall down over and over again but if you keep trying you might one day be good at something.
@@icecreamhero2375 do they have one on the hero's hardships? I see everyone say "give flaws to your hero". But I believe one could make a good hero by showing how hard it is to do good and only good. I mean, something as simple as saying the truth all the time is not easy.
@@whoareyou1034 No that isn't one of them it says give your hero flaws. But yeah that can totally work. Of course no matter how nice you are you aren't completely perfect. www.aerogrammestudio.com/2013/03/07/pixars-22-rules-of-storytelling/
@@lancedayneburgos8529 Good for you man! Maybe we could/should collab some time. I'm actually in the process of editing my old writing. I'll put it up on a blog, and start off some new things.
He really does a great job of breaking down films. Extremely underrated. Especially on that... underwater film with Kristen Stewart, whatever it was called. I can't even remember. I'm not even joking, because I feel like the name of the movie was something stupid like "Underwater" and it's making me look stupid because it's so forgettable. Edit: Oh shit, I just looked it up. Seriously? I swear that was not planned. What a dumb name for a movie. What a forgettable name for a forgettable movie.
@@rars0n Yeah, we all know stupid forgettable movies like this... I mean, just imagine someone would call a movie about a terminator "The Terminator" or a movie about the Titanic would be called "Titanic". Instant flops.
People need to treat the word ‘difference’ like ‘variations’ or ‘variety’ that way people can start viewing different opinions as a variety of opinions, not just plain old “if ur not with me, ur my enemy”
@Black Ninja then I try to absorb and understand them, to see if holds value since he has arguments to think differently. To... You know... Learn :)) (don't worry, I'm not one of the hatters)
@Black Ninja He's not saying he disagrees with particular points in this video, only in general. As do I. For example, I still think a "A day in the life of" sequence is not strictly neccesary to be at the very beginning of a film/story. I believe it can just as well come at a later date with the same effect. The only genuine thing that matters in any good story is execution and result. If something is satisfactory (in the sense that it is entertaining, not in the sense that it is "adequate"), then that something fits in the story. An ADITL sequence might just work later on as well. One may also argue that ADITL acts as a "baseline" and nothing more. That is to say, it gives us the context we need. As such, different things might provide that context, without neccesary being strung together in a single comprehensible sequence. That said, a single ADITL sequence is an effective tool, and putting it at the beginning of your film/story is effective, if done properly. I just don't believe it is strictly neccesary for every imaginable story. For classic hero's journey/action blockbuster films, it does work, though.
@@kenechukwuaniagboso4583 not really. Him taking an Oscar as a villain in Superhero genre is very very rare. Plus, TDK is highly praised by many viewers and critics.
A Day in Life is just a reference frame to contrast with. It can be anything to establish the norm. I thought that's self explanatory. Did Underwater showed us a reference frame to contrast with? Now that's the bigger question..
That's usually to create contrast and conflict between characters and push the plot which most movies do and do well and which I appreciate for the setups and payoffs in the story. Underwater didn't do that because all the characters cooperated which is very unusual for a disaster/monster movie but it didn't really hurt the story as much as you would expect - Mostly because there were some good performances and the director made some great artistic choices - I think Filmento was too harsh on Underwater but I'm a big fan of this channel - Great content and insight into movie making and very entertaining. His point is valid - There was no day in the life to help you easily connect to the charcter/set expectations. I saw a video recently on a character not having an arc which breaks story-telling rules and that's very hard to do successfully, too. Think it was on the Just Write UA-cam channel.
It's a TAT formula, tried and true, but I sort of enjoy how Underwater breaks it. It does make you remember it. We start with brushing teeth, then shit goes down. When we read an article, we get bare background before hearing about how the base collapsed. When we saw the movie, we got bare background before seeing the movie, the base collapsing.
Day in the life sequences are good because seeing the status quo can show or at least foreshadow a character's mindset, including values and flaws, and gives a much more intimate lens through which we see the rest of the story, because we have a better understanding of what they're fighting for. They're also good opportunities for relatability/save the cat type stuff.
As much as you can learn a lot from failure, I really enjoyed this as a more positive explanation of when something is done right. I went back to watch the Underwater video on the back of this, despite having not seen the film. The section on how the protagonists should really be responsible for the inciting incident kind of made me think of The Thing, with the initial release of the Thing being already set in motion by the Norwegian Camp. I guess there the difference is the film is about much more than survival, focusing on mistrust and paranoia, with the inciting incident from our protagonists point of view being to shoot the Norwegian instead of trying to figure out what their intentions were.
I remember watching Underwater and going... dang that was too fast...I don't even know who I'm supposed to care about. It's kinda ridiculous cos they don't criticize Joker for being a bad film cos it's obviously an amazing movie. But when we criticize their favorites..."Well Everyone loses their minds."
Not true. One movie is about a man dressed as a bat. The other one is about a women trying to survive a horriffic accident. Why tf do people compare these genres?!
@@Ivlodded Completely agree, though when I watched underwater I couldnt help but wish there had been a little more in the beginning. Filmento isn't wrong in his critique that that movie would have benefited from a less abrupt start. I wish there had been more TJ Miller though.
He has done it again. Solid editing, solid arguments and solid humor! I always pick out special time during the day to watch your newly released videos so I can focus on what is happening!
For real tho, filmento is great at breaking down the fundamentals of a story to explain why a movie is good instead of most reviewers saying that it is good. Dont get me wrong, some reviewers I like as some of them provide a different perspective on a movie but damn filmento increases my writing skill tree with his vids.
2:13 "Batman and the Joker clashing over Gotham City." That's A Day in the Life of Batman. Him rounding up Scarecrow on the parking deck, and clashing with the Batmen gang. The Joker Heist is an Opening Performance, because everything we see from the Joker is a Performance. He's got "LOOK AT ME!" Painted all over his face. This is an escalation of the Theatrics, and Deception of Batman Begins. The League of Shadows taught him 101. This is the next level of Theatrics, and Deception, and it's written all over the heist as well. He tricks his henchmen into killing each other off. He stops to plant the smoke grenade in the banker's mouth. That wasn't part of the plan, he had a smoke grenade with the pin tied to his sweater for that gag. "Do I look like a guy with a plan?" Yeah, you look like a guy who's plan is to conceal everything about your planS.
Nolan has got to be one of the finest directors working today. _The Dark Knight Rises_ wasn't even that bad. It's just that the trilogy had already peaked with this one.
@@ChamChamRealSmooth Twitter is much worse than Tumblr ever was. 2014 Tumblr was mostly lonely young girls, who expressed their anger through feminism. Sort of like a female version of 4chan. While twitter today, is literally people threatening violence to anyone who disagrees with the left, and it's the most toxic place on the internet right now.
To this day i declare myself as a Filmento's goon. Your channel is just too good and precious to me even understand how come somenone hate on this, i mean it's just jealousy or idiocy.
I liked how you took the strongest criticism against you, which was backed up by an amazing example of a movie as great as the Dark Knight, made a video on it, and completely ruined that strong criticism. Lmao.
How could anyone possibly hate your videos when you put so much work into analyzing these films. Your production value is off the damn charts. You're the GMTK of movies
one thing i love about the intro, is that some of the masked henchmen weren't informed about certain parts of the plan. the bus driver, after coming across the dead bodies of his fellow thugs, didn't know what happened, and Joker just ended him during the confusion.
This is the first Filmento video I've ever seen, so IDC about what anyone's said about your work before, but honestly that sentence at 14:03 broke my brain. You treated the English language like the Joker treated Harvey Dent’s face.
Bro keep going forward, although so many haters hate you, who cares, never give up, your videos inspire me to see movies in a different way, thank you, and have a great day!!!
this video is a perfect example of why i hate people who dont pay attention during movies and then ask questions in the middle of the movie about whats going on
I don’t understand why people are hating, I just recently found your channel but I genuinely think it’s super underrated. You give precise logical explanations of of your opinions which people can disagree with but it’s hard because of how you present your arguments.
Filmento didn't have haters, he only have "people to show how capable Filmento is" if those people think ADITL is peaceful day in the life, i assume they think that Slice Of Life is a slice of someone that you cut on your life
A fine video! Glad I found it again. I would not have said the opening scene was part of the day in the life of Gotham, just a prologue. But you have convinced me! Way to go!
I would just like to say this has become one of my new favorite channels. Without realizing it I have been watching your videos every day for a couple weeks.
Your sufficient use of memes and valid and understandable points make your vids rewatchable. Dont listen to people on Twitter. Honestly, most of the people there don't even know the difference between plot and story.
Recent fan and subscriber of yours Filmento, just wanted to add my voice into the fan pile. Don’t listen to the haters, rarely do they have a valid point. You have a channel with videos full of them. Keep doing you.
I like how people on twitter think countering one of the arguments you make in a video with a half-thought discredits not only the entire video, but also your entire channel. And what is worse is it actually seems to work sometimes. If that hurts to watch I can't imagine what must go through your head brother. Stay strong
I’ve learned more about writing stories from this UA-cam channel about filmmaking than I did after most of my childhood language arts classes. Thanks for all the help, Filmento.
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Thank you!
Also your correct in saying underwater failed because the dark Knight could start in the middle of action without status quo Because it spent a whole movie before it setting up Batman, sequels can start in the action
@@masterchieftheconqueror2631 Those sequels established rise of Batman where he took down a illuminati like cult but it didn't established how he is affecting mob. The prologue shows action, consequence and reaction. You are right as prequels set up world and characrers, best example is Infinity war
Did people think a day in the life meant watching the Joker eat breakfast
This actually made me laugh
He's crazy so he might skip to LUNCH.
@@garythemanhunter2228 what a MAD LAD
@@garythemanhunter2228 I must be crazy then 👀
“*fade in - int. Bedroom - morning *
An alarm clock on a nightstand beeps as the camera dollys back...”
The fact that this movie is over ten years old and we are still talking about it shows just how good it is.
And in ten more years will still be taking about it
The only reason we should EVER stop talking about this movie, is when the earth is literally uninhabitable for life lmao.
@@cryojudgement2376 yeah 😂
So the fact Batman For Ever is still being talked about must mean it is also very good?
@@Legorreta.M.D that's a different kind of talk
Imagine being the one dude that gets a full Filmento video directed at him.
To he honest i want to know his reaction to have a dedicated video
What if he was just a 14y old kid who just loved the Batman movie? Its also not wrong to be a bit dumb as an adult, you cant be an expert on everything.
@@__-fi6xg The person in question was not just expressing fan status of Batman, but rather using the Dark Knight to defend Underwater. And filmento singled out the user not for being a dumb hater, but for trying to offer an actual, although flawed, critique compared to just baseless whining and disagreement.
In reality, that dude is so intellectually inept that they woudln't even comprehend that this video was a major NO U sent to their face.
Every day, the realization of just how low the average human intellect is, frightens me more and more
@@Real_MisterSir I hate to break it to you, but the average is just the halfway point.
What I LOVED about The Dark Knight the first time I saw it was how EVERYONE, including Batman and the mob, underestimated the threat the Joker posed until it was too late. He blindsided the entire city to the point the mob was sort of on the side of the police by the end.
Person: Your theory is flawed because this movie here doesn't follow the formula
Filmento: *uno reverse card*
Well yes, but no.
I LOVED the little subtle usage of the reverse card in the mob/ Joker scene.
Haters SEETHING!
Honestly I find you one of the most level headed film critics on UA-cam. I feel most critics dont look deep enough in the politics, story, characters and just make a 2 dimensional argument why its bad/good.
Rather you break down the elements and reasons why these characters or the story doesn't/does work. Your way of explaining is set in a good balance of great examples, point outs and various methods used to make films.
Continue what you do!
He clearly has a strong psssion for films and so he puts more work into the reviews. This video is a great example 15 minutes talking about why a movies beginning is good without even going into detail about the rest of the plot
I dont know why everyone hates on you. It is ok to disagree and i do somethimes but i still really enjoy your videos. Keep going king
What are you talking about, this is the internet. You are not allowed to have a different opinion here
It's twitter.. The toilet of the internet.. I'm surprised that surprises you..
Right? Filmento is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam! I don’t agree with everything he says, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna talk trash on him lol difference of opinions is what makes us human.
Never seen anyone trash this channel. Mostly because I don't have twitter
Because truth can be harmful to some people, like feminists and fanboys.
Twitter: "U wrong"
Filmento: "Ok, I'll go easy on you..." **Cracks Knuckles**
Me:**Resists urge to make a fist of the North Star reference**
@@naprizodenvtuber2529 I know, I know...
I mean its Twitter of all things.
12 years passed and people still making videos about this movie, this shows how great this movie really is
Great videos, at that.
Undisputed classic movie.
Yep. Nolan knew his shit.
@@DonVigaDeFierro kinda sad nolan has always wanted to make a new huge movie(like inception but it only lasted a few years, now most people have it a little forgotten; thats why they are gonna re release it when cinemas open again hahaha) but he will always be remember by this master piece of super hero movie, he is proud but by far he would like to have other gran opus for the audience and not just be "that batman director"
@@brozomana I'm eager to see "Tenet".
RAY ENG what are you talking about??? Almost 10 years have passed and Inception is STILL talked about till this day, that and it’s considered by many to be the greatest movie of last decade. Idk if you live under a rock but inception too is known for being a movie still controversial a decade after its release, just look at how many videos there are on it. TDK is just on a whole other spectrum though cause there’s so much to break down and comprehend due to the messages, villian, hero etc etc. (inception is also considered to be Nolan’s Magnum Opus as well)
Some geniuses were recognized because they stood on the shoulders of giants. Filmento went a step further and stood on the shoulders of haters. Great reversal video.
He’s getting hate because he’s putting more thought into things than the average reviewer. People hate change lol
It’s from a generation that grew up entitled and self serving
Then let’s introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos... I’m an agent of chaos. And you know the best part about chaos...it’s fair.
well his hater give him more idea for videos than his fans i think..
It's not change people hate. It's exceptionalism.
@@Add183 Generations have been like that since the boomer great economy days.
I always love that the Joker deliberately switched who was at which location, knowing which one Batman would try to save.
exactly. whoever batman wanted to save he would rescue the opposite
Filmento did you really make a video just to flex on the haters? Because I approve.
Using their own example against them was just brilliant.
When you were talking about how joker needed his introduction, and just walking into the room would not have held any effect without it...… I just realized exactly how much that feels like some super hero movies. They just show up and since they know people probably already know everyone there is seldom a proper intro. No reason to care or understand, except what you know from the comics, which have no real bearing on the movie.
It's the same problem so many J. J. Abrams movies suffer from. That guy simply cannot stay intrinsic to the movie he currently shoots.
@Saleem Frazer black panther had terrible character building.
Oh look. You articulated one of my biggest gripes about Suicide Squad. (Aside from the usual dumpster fire problems it has.)
@@adityamahajan1631 XD 6 months and @TREMEKILLERMAN7 still doesn't have an awnser
@@xtremekillerman7803You still haven't answered how lol
3:08 now THIS is how you do a sponsor bit. I was literally hyped during the explanation with the music and the screaming lol amazing
_"You either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."_ *~ Harvey Dent*
To this day, this quote aged like fine wine.
Superman (Earth-0), Spiderman and many more heroes that won't become villains don't like that quote.
@Ilovesuperman But Spider-Man didn't.
@Ilovesuperman In the MCU, he might age enough so we'll see him in his thirties. Nevertheless, the chance of him becoming a villain isn't high since Tony's death and the combined efforts of Vulture and Mysterio didn't break him down.
@Ilovesuperman He was going to college in the 2nd Sam Raimi movie. He's been at least a college age adult in almost the entire mainline comicbook run of the character. So it really depends on the incarnation.
@Ilovesuperman Canon Superman no.
I don't have any interest in writing a story in itself, but understanding how it's done let's me enjoy movies in a different way. Twitter is a really toxic platform. Don't let that keep you from doing what you love here on YT, your work is really appreciated here.
Why do people use twitter, and give slightest amount of respect to randoms sharing their opinion there is beyond me.
Ive been wondering about for myself aswell. Why does anyone care about twitter??
The vast majority of people who use Twitter are nimrods anyway.
Yeah, You're right, the last time I used Twitter, wait, I've never used Twitter. I heard it's pretty much a porn site, no?
@@R__________ Yup, the only value it can provide is porn. And even then there are better alternatives.
@@insertname485 what, people post nudes there ?
I haven´t seen much of your channel: I´m only recently starting to watch your content. So I don´t get any justifiable reason behind the "hate". Your videos look like very good quality, in my opinion.
Twitter is a terrible platform, just keep that in mind. You could state something like: "I brushed my teeth today" and someone would find a reason to be offended and do everything in their power to share their misery.
Keep up the good work!
Me: makes a post about a peanut butter sandwich.
Karen: THIS POST IS OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE WITH ALLERGIES YOU SRE THE NODT SELFISH PERSON TO EXIST.
You should always pour milk before cereal.
Now fight me.
The problem I find with Filmento is that he is a passive protagonist.
problem? PROBLEM????? if anything, it's what movies need. better to have filmento than to have cinemasins take it a step further into parody content and people taking it as literal criticism. at least here there is a chance of real conversation or at least a real understanding of the thought process Filmento goes through.
Without Filmento, I'd never know what a passive protagonist is.
So true also I'm not satisfayed with his "day in life" introduction.
the action scene were he talk about movie his good to show what he is capable of but I still don't know what he want and what he need as a character (pretty weak introduction if you ask me).
this is sad but I have to make a video "Filmento | Anatomy of a failure" with FAILURE in red in the thumbnail
One of the best comments I've ever reviewed. You must have signed up for skillshare.
There is also a problem of not getting a 'day in the life' part before Filmento dives right into the action, therefore missing the baseline of his character.
Filmento is without a doubt my favorite movie analysis channel. I learn genuine writing skills and he has his own little style of humor that adds to and enhances the videos. Can't see how he gets any hate at all, really. Everything he says is justifiable and fair.
Twitter guy: tries to correct what filmento did
Filmenos: now i know what i must do
I will shred this argument down to it's last atom
I feel like a day in the life definitely offers a huge advantage in writing a story. I don’t think it’s absolutely essential because some pieces of art are good because they break rules. That’s the cool thing about story structure. A good writer can take any situation and make a great story out of it.
Yes, not every film needs to follow that structure but first you've got to know the rules before you can start breaking them.
@@arandombard1197 exactly, you should know the rules and why they existed so you can start thinking about compensating the downsides of not having it, instead of 'oh well I hope it works out'
I still think there are some fundamental rules that must be kept though.
Like every story must have a beginning and end. Otherwise, I can never see how that would work.
The thing is that still, you have to stablish the rules, which is a problem with most sequels this days: They don't stablish rules because you have to know them from the 15 movies and 3 TV series that came before. And that's stupid. You are supposed to make a movie selfcontained and for everyone, not just the guys that have maniacly followed your content for decades.
I don‘t know if such a movie really exists… Somehow I remember a movie that starts with a scene like in the kitchen where all the bad guys meet and talk about how the hero is messing with their businesses and they decide to work together and kill him. But after that we would go to a normal day of the hero which is interrupted by the bad guys‘ plan.
I genuinely don't understand why Filmento is getting so much hate, I've watched almost every video he's made, and in every single one he has made justifiable praise or criticism for whatever he might be talking about. I'm constantly nodding my head in agreement at least once or twice in every video. As somebody who has spent most of their early life learning about film and TV and studying it. He makes valid, strong arguments. While I might not agree with every single detail I acknowledge that Filmento has his own opinion. And that's fine. I know that this is the internet and people get pissy about everything. But any haters reading this. Fuck yourself and give the guy some space. He doesn't deserve hate from you just because you disagree with what he said in a video. If you don't like his content, then go, don't watch him again. Just be the better man/woman and leave him be.
He undoubtedly puts a lot of effort into his videos as do most content creators on youtube. So respect that, and if you don't like him. Leave. I get that quarantine is boring, but maybe you could find another pass-time that doesn't involve making other people's lives misery!
P.S keep it up filmento, you are a fantastic content creator, never change!
Twitter is cancer is the reason he is getting hate. I mean he universally said that is where all the negativity was coming from.
i hope someday Filmento helps a directer or screen writer in the future
i learn so much from him
nah filmento is garbo, moviemento on the other hand, is the real deal XD
The female symbol on the foreheads of the protagonist of Underwater and Charlie's Angels in his thumbnails, followed by the word FAILURE in big red letters. That's pretty much it. The rest is just people watching the video and trying to pick up things as to discredit his opinions, out of the idea that doing so they'll also shut down the "Feminism is a failure" imagery in thoses thumbnails.
Because he isn't a sick puppy sjw like the rest of the film channel wise guys cough ' just write' cough. Filmento is a good dude,has no agenda which makes him NOT one of them= an enemy.
This analysis taught me things about the Dark Knight, a movie I've seen more times than probably any other (a low bar, not a movie person), and I'm very happy for it.
Also, your comment on defining technical terms is very important. Always gotta do it, never assume people know what you mean without clarifying
Pixar Rule #4:
Once upon a time there was ___. Every day, ___. One day ___. Because of that, ___. Because of that, ___. Until finally ___.
@Rajnoor Brar There are 22 pixar rules of story telling. My absolute favorate one is "A great hero is admired more for their failures than their successes". That one is very close to my heart. It means that you will suck at first and fall down over and over again but if you keep trying you might one day be good at something.
@@icecreamhero2375 do they have one on the hero's hardships? I see everyone say "give flaws to your hero". But I believe one could make a good hero by showing how hard it is to do good and only good. I mean, something as simple as saying the truth all the time is not easy.
@@whoareyou1034 No that isn't one of them it says give your hero flaws. But yeah that can totally work. Of course no matter how nice you are you aren't completely perfect. www.aerogrammestudio.com/2013/03/07/pixars-22-rules-of-storytelling/
@@whoareyou1034 Of course most of them are just a guide and not all of them should be super litteral 100 percent of the time.
@@icecreamhero2375 true. I just always see "give the hero flaws" everywhere lol. I keep forgetting these are not set in stone rules lol.
As someone who wants to write/make comic-books, this was extremely helpful. Thank you!
same! especially for me i want to make a mech short film, so glad to find this guy on UA-cam!
@@lancedayneburgos8529 Good for you man! Maybe we could/should collab some time.
I'm actually in the process of editing my old writing. I'll put it up on a blog, and start off some new things.
Oh that's sound nice! Sure! would love to hear more from you soon!
Your channel is so underrated...
Congrats on 69 likes!
He really does a great job of breaking down films. Extremely underrated. Especially on that... underwater film with Kristen Stewart, whatever it was called. I can't even remember. I'm not even joking, because I feel like the name of the movie was something stupid like "Underwater" and it's making me look stupid because it's so forgettable.
Edit: Oh shit, I just looked it up. Seriously? I swear that was not planned. What a dumb name for a movie. What a forgettable name for a forgettable movie.
@@rars0n
Yeah, we all know stupid forgettable movies like this... I mean, just imagine someone would call a movie about a terminator "The Terminator" or a movie about the Titanic would be called "Titanic". Instant flops.
@@moserfugger6363 The difference is that those titles are memorable.
@@rars0n
Yeah, because you've read and heard them countless times during the span of several decades.
People need to treat the word ‘difference’ like ‘variations’ or ‘variety’
that way people can start viewing different opinions as a variety of opinions, not just plain old “if ur not with me, ur my enemy”
*Filmento getting hate*
me: *visible confusion*
@Neil Brown what
Who is Neil and why i have the need to hate him
Yeah, like his vids are so educated and amazing how could someone hate this
I see if this sounds sarcastic I don’t mean it to be
Seriously!!
I see dark knight. I click.
yes
I may not always agree with your points, but I definitely agree with your editing choices... God bless dat windows shutdown sound
@Black Ninja then I try to absorb and understand them, to see if holds value since he has arguments to think differently. To... You know... Learn :)) (don't worry, I'm not one of the hatters)
That part broke me. I wasn’t prepared for that
@Black Ninja He's not saying he disagrees with particular points in this video, only in general. As do I.
For example, I still think a "A day in the life of" sequence is not strictly neccesary to be at the very beginning of a film/story. I believe it can just as well come at a later date with the same effect.
The only genuine thing that matters in any good story is execution and result. If something is satisfactory (in the sense that it is entertaining, not in the sense that it is "adequate"), then that something fits in the story. An ADITL sequence might just work later on as well.
One may also argue that ADITL acts as a "baseline" and nothing more. That is to say, it gives us the context we need. As such, different things might provide that context, without neccesary being strung together in a single comprehensible sequence.
That said, a single ADITL sequence is an effective tool, and putting it at the beginning of your film/story is effective, if done properly. I just don't believe it is strictly neccesary for every imaginable story.
For classic hero's journey/action blockbuster films, it does work, though.
"My arguments are perfect" 10/10 IGN
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If Heath Ledger's alive, he would be the most wanted actor in Hollywood movie projects
This is an idiotic take!
@@kenechukwuaniagboso4583 not really. Him taking an Oscar as a villain in Superhero genre is very very rare. Plus, TDK is highly praised by many viewers and critics.
@@Theo-bk6qj the oscars has no credibility whats so ever
@@thanos7459 sometimes they do like the best film one
@@thanos7459 no they still has
"twitter"
yeah that's the first fallacy
A Day in Life is just a reference frame to contrast with. It can be anything to establish the norm. I thought that's self explanatory.
Did Underwater showed us a reference frame to contrast with? Now that's the bigger question..
That's usually to create contrast and conflict between characters and push the plot which most movies do and do well and which I appreciate for the setups and payoffs in the story.
Underwater didn't do that because all the characters cooperated which is very unusual for a disaster/monster movie but it didn't really hurt the story as much as you would expect - Mostly because there were some good performances and the director made some great artistic choices - I think Filmento was too harsh on Underwater but I'm a big fan of this channel - Great content and insight into movie making and very entertaining. His point is valid - There was no day in the life to help you easily connect to the charcter/set expectations.
I saw a video recently on a character not having an arc which breaks story-telling rules and that's very hard to do successfully, too. Think it was on the Just Write UA-cam channel.
Exactly. We don't know if they have boring office work every day or the fight different monsters all the time.
It's a TAT formula, tried and true, but I sort of enjoy how Underwater breaks it. It does make you remember it.
We start with brushing teeth, then shit goes down.
When we read an article, we get bare background before hearing about how the base collapsed.
When we saw the movie, we got bare background before seeing the movie, the base collapsing.
Day in the life sequences are good because seeing the status quo can show or at least foreshadow a character's mindset, including values and flaws, and gives a much more intimate lens through which we see the rest of the story, because we have a better understanding of what they're fighting for. They're also good opportunities for relatability/save the cat type stuff.
I am a filmento lover. Pro filmento. Initiate the fight against the haters.
i stand with you
As much as you can learn a lot from failure, I really enjoyed this as a more positive explanation of when something is done right. I went back to watch the Underwater video on the back of this, despite having not seen the film. The section on how the protagonists should really be responsible for the inciting incident kind of made me think of The Thing, with the initial release of the Thing being already set in motion by the Norwegian Camp. I guess there the difference is the film is about much more than survival, focusing on mistrust and paranoia, with the inciting incident from our protagonists point of view being to shoot the Norwegian instead of trying to figure out what their intentions were.
Props for the guy that stung filmento to annoy him enough, so he's making this video
These twitter people really thought that a day in the life is literally watching joker apply his make up and eating breakfast huh
Filmento is literally my fav film critic in UA-cam.
I had seen this 2 years ago, but only now realized i had made the exact same mistakes in my story. One inciting incident happened in a flashback...
Comparing underwater with the dark knight just makes underwater looks more incompetent
I remember watching Underwater and going... dang that was too fast...I don't even know who I'm supposed to care about. It's kinda ridiculous cos they don't criticize Joker for being a bad film cos it's obviously an amazing movie. But when we criticize their favorites..."Well Everyone loses their minds."
Not true. One movie is about a man dressed as a bat. The other one is about a women trying to survive a horriffic accident. Why tf do people compare these genres?!
@@Ivlodded Completely agree, though when I watched underwater I couldnt help but wish there had been a little more in the beginning. Filmento isn't wrong in his critique that that movie would have benefited from a less abrupt start. I wish there had been more TJ Miller though.
“My armor. Too much weight.” Skyrim fans, including myself: just eat your 80 wheels of cheese.
RussianBadger? Is that you?
What the fuck.
"Damn bro, I picked up this basket now I weight 6k pounds. Let me eat this basket now to solve the problem"
More than 10 years ago I was sitting in a cinema watching this movie and it's still as complex as today. Nolan never fails.
Except when he does ;)
Like with Interstellar, Dunkrik or the Dark Night Rises.
Austin Boo you know nothing
@Mutaz Muhanad Hammad Every people has their own opinions. He is hating the movies you love doesn't allow you to offend him.
He has done it again. Solid editing, solid arguments and solid humor!
I always pick out special time during the day to watch your newly released videos so I can focus on what is happening!
The level of editing of this guy is just marvelous..
11:43 - this was brilliant. I didn't even notice that.
I'm learning more from Filmento then my online classes
For real tho, filmento is great at breaking down the fundamentals of a story to explain why a movie is good instead of most reviewers saying that it is good. Dont get me wrong, some reviewers I like as some of them provide a different perspective on a movie but damn filmento increases my writing skill tree with his vids.
2:13 "Batman and the Joker clashing over Gotham City." That's A Day in the Life of Batman. Him rounding up Scarecrow on the parking deck, and clashing with the Batmen gang. The Joker Heist is an Opening Performance, because everything we see from the Joker is a Performance. He's got "LOOK AT ME!" Painted all over his face. This is an escalation of the Theatrics, and Deception of Batman Begins. The League of Shadows taught him 101. This is the next level of Theatrics, and Deception, and it's written all over the heist as well. He tricks his henchmen into killing each other off. He stops to plant the smoke grenade in the banker's mouth. That wasn't part of the plan, he had a smoke grenade with the pin tied to his sweater for that gag. "Do I look like a guy with a plan?" Yeah, you look like a guy who's plan is to conceal everything about your planS.
The amount of memes in this vid is off the charts... I loved that
Seriously. Kudos to the editor
@@renukapallege5970 fil is the editor, it's a solo job
Filmento: “then you’re gonna love me”
Ignore the haters. Anyone who is good at what they do will have people who are jealous and want to see them fail.
Your content is great.
Nolan has got to be one of the finest directors working today.
_The Dark Knight Rises_ wasn't even that bad. It's just that the trilogy had already peaked with this one.
I've learned more story writing from Filmento than anywhere else. Thanks for the videos sir.
"This gentlemen on twitter..."
*Twitter and tumbler want to know your location*
at this point, twitter is tumblr
all those tumblrinas migrated to twitter after tumblr's "death"
@@ChamChamRealSmooth Twitter is much worse than Tumblr ever was. 2014 Tumblr was mostly lonely young girls, who expressed their anger through feminism. Sort of like a female version of 4chan. While twitter today, is literally people threatening violence to anyone who disagrees with the left, and it's the most toxic place on the internet right now.
@@kjullthedemon 4Chan: Incels and nerds, but good comedy, and world-renowned memes.
Tumblr: FIX TEH WAGE GAP SKREEEEEE
I don't see the resemblance.
Don't get why people hate you. You're a great UA-camr! Much love, man. Don't let the haters get to you!
A day in the life seems to be a basic introduction to the world and what role our characters play in that world
This is the only film that I watch almost 20 times.
No film is ever close to that.
It's crazy how people don't know what "a day in the life" means.
I love the fact that you compared 2 movies to show what should be done and what wasnt done.
Great stuff
Me hearing about people complaining about thumbnails, it was Charlie's Angels wasn't it. That one was asking for trouble.
It probably was too much
People are too sensitive, about anything
That thanos rat still haunts me till this day
Bat Person that one still burns my eyes as well
To this day i declare myself as a Filmento's goon. Your channel is just too good and precious to me even understand how come somenone hate on this, i mean it's just jealousy or idiocy.
I liked how you took the strongest criticism against you, which was backed up by an amazing example of a movie as great as the Dark Knight, made a video on it, and completely ruined that strong criticism. Lmao.
If Twitter hates you, it's just another strong reason to like you even more, good job and thanks for the quality and informative content
Why are these haters so serious?
Why so serious?
Is that a -JoJo- Joker reference?!?!?!
@@thedesertfox3932 Jojoker reference?
@@plutarchvonpluto6439 Y E S S S S S S S
How could anyone possibly hate your videos when you put so much work into analyzing these films. Your production value is off the damn charts. You're the GMTK of movies
one thing i love about the intro, is that some of the masked henchmen weren't informed about certain parts of the plan. the bus driver, after coming across the dead bodies of his fellow thugs, didn't know what happened, and Joker just ended him during the confusion.
So basically the henchmen are like pawns on a chess board, and the Joker is the Queen that does everything.
This is the first Filmento video I've ever seen, so IDC about what anyone's said about your work before, but honestly that sentence at 14:03 broke my brain. You treated the English language like the Joker treated Harvey Dent’s face.
Another partnership with a burn. Love it
I'm glad you don't listen to the haters, Filmento. Your content is what UA-cam needs and deserves
Films are like onions, they have layers
like ogres, you mean
So... Movies are like shrek?
I always enjoyed the opening of the first alien movie as a day in the life sequence. You got a feel of being a blue collar worker in the future.
Bro keep going forward, although so many haters hate you, who cares, never give up, your videos inspire me to see movies in a different way, thank you, and have a great day!!!
this video is a perfect example of why i hate people who dont pay attention during movies and then ask questions in the middle of the movie about whats going on
Interesting how the "haters" only pop up around certain films... 🤔
"Oh is that a thing that people enjoy? I hate joy, there has to be something problematic in it".... and this every day, how do these people even life?
certain wamen films. grow up wamen, be sarah connor, not captain marvel
Weirder because Underwater didn't have critical or audience acclaim.
@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 But it had Kristen Stewart with short hair and underwear... That's enough to get the simps worked up!
@@DonVigaDeFierro Would they know anything about screenwriting?
I don’t understand why people are hating, I just recently found your channel but I genuinely think it’s super underrated. You give precise logical explanations of of your opinions which people can disagree with but it’s hard because of how you present your arguments.
Filmento didn't have haters, he only have "people to show how capable Filmento is"
if those people think ADITL is peaceful day in the life, i assume they think that Slice Of Life is a slice of someone that you cut on your life
or that Thrillers have something to do with Micheal Jackson
Someone suggested a Gothic horror movie to me. It was so dumb. Not a single black-haired woman in a laced up black and purple dress.
I cant believe Endgame wasnt a chess game and infinity war only lasted 2 hours and not infinite. I want my money back
A fine video! Glad I found it again. I would not have said the opening scene was part of the day in the life of Gotham, just a prologue. But you have convinced me! Way to go!
I would just like to say this has become one of my new favorite channels. Without realizing it I have been watching your videos every day for a couple weeks.
More of Pirates of Carribean series please ❤
Your sufficient use of memes and valid and understandable points make your vids rewatchable. Dont listen to people on Twitter. Honestly, most of the people there don't even know the difference between plot and story.
Im half way through the vid but I need to say this but your meme game is so top notch dude
Krakozhians are all like that, man.
Filmento using hold middle mouse button to scroll through page.
Me: I see you're a man of culture as well.
Saving private Ryan also has a great opening battle scene
Recent fan and subscriber of yours Filmento, just wanted to add my voice into the fan pile. Don’t listen to the haters, rarely do they have a valid point. You have a channel with videos full of them. Keep doing you.
Filmento, your meme game is top notch my guy.
I just subscribed 2 days ago and this is my new favorite youtube Channel, Big Fan
There are Filmento haters?!
Fools! Simple as that.
Screw the haters. I really like your channel and you make great points.
Love the channel. Along with the fans and the “haters”.
I like how people on twitter think countering one of the arguments you make in a video with a half-thought discredits not only the entire video, but also your entire channel. And what is worse is it actually seems to work sometimes. If that hurts to watch I can't imagine what must go through your head brother. Stay strong
5:40 if that wouldve actually happened I wouldve lost my actual shit laughing
Day in a life is probably the most interesting way to put things conceptually. Thanks man
tyler1 is a gold mine of our generation of over acting. Thank you.
I dont care what the haters say about Filmento. I enjoy the videos and find them very interesting and informative, keep it up filmento
I honestly love the fact that you posted a whole 15 minute long comeback to someone’s comment 😂 fantastic energy here
I’ve learned more about writing stories from this UA-cam channel about filmmaking than I did after most of my childhood language arts classes. Thanks for all the help, Filmento.