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"The engineer creates the human, the human creates the android, the engineer creates the weapon, the android steals the weapon, the android destroys the engineer with the weapon, the android creates the alien from the weapon, the alien destroys the human." Dr. Ian Malcolm
I’ll always die on the hill of this being a good movie for the alien series. It’s not perfect, but it’s got some gorgeous storytelling elements in it. David’s character progression is unbelievably good and the music choice & score? My god don’t even get me started it’s excellent. I adore this film regardless of the alien fandom’s general thoughts
Also known as "Let's go to an unknown planet and immediately all of us breathe in ALL its equally unknown microorganisms 'cause we real smart sciency folk we are."
Fassbender is truly an ss-class actor. Somehow managed to deliver two character's lines, tone and accent completely differently. The way he portrays Walter's demeanor, mannerisms, body language and attitude are incredibly different than the way he acts David out. He's one of the very best and i wouldn't be surprised if he reaches de niro, alpacino level of greatness. More like, im sure he will. By the time he's 80 he'll be screen legend.
I saw a book called David's drawings and it shows all David's work on the planet. So disturbing drawings. I hate how detailed the facehugger implanted looks. Looks very..........un cut lol
It’s too bad this movie tanked hard at the box office when it could’ve done so well. I think what would’ve made it a little bit better was if they showed the important plot points in the movie instead of cutting them out entirely and putting them on UA-cam instead. Not every movie has to give you homework.
The original Engineers couldn't procreate, they created the goo to alter DNA, what they didn't expect was to create a Deacon. They worshipped the Deacon and the process of being used as a vessel for these beings. However something happens and they decide to lock up the goo and only use it to wipe species out. The ship in Prometheus was meant for Earth. David used Shaw's body with the goo after much experimenting to create the first eggs. David does this without a Queen, because Shaw's genetic material is used to make David's xenomorphs which are cousins to the xenomorphs we saw in Alien/Aliens
Covenant is a weird movie for me. This is my fourth time watching it, and whilst I kinda enjoy it while I'm watching, once it's over I instantly forget everything that happened.
I think they did a good job, brought back visceral alien violence and somehow in trying to balance it and make everyone happy pissed off the most people. Idk I liked Covenant but I get people feeling underwhelmed and it doesn't help that these movies kinda make you connect dots on your own to figure out the engineer/goo/xenomorph relationship and if you don't understand it why would you care? It leaves you less invested
I wish the alien movie would have split into two plot lines. The body horror and the higher concept. This movie attempted to live in two worlds and failed. The newest movie succeeded in heading down the horror route. Would be nice to see this plot line continued as well, as I enjoy the direction it was headed after prometheus
I'm surprised how many people can't work out if it is David or Walter at the end, Walter can heal, so the damage to his face would have healed which means it has to be David pretending to be Walter.
The planet they're on isn't actually the Engineers' homeworld. It’s more of a settlement they used and those indigenous were another race created by the Engineers. Also David was merely trying to replicate the xenomorph that were referenced by the Engineers. Some background is the engineers either discovered or developed an organism as a bioweapon. This was called the wolf and is meant to be the first iteration of xenomorphs
The book mentions that David found an egg sac with a face-hugger in it that was dead/petrified. That is why Oram looks and the egg sac and believes David that he is safe. He has survived looking at one already as well as everything in the lab. I wish the movie had included things from the book that show as it makes them less "reckless" as they are depicted in the movie. Walter had made scans during the few weeks they had to travel to Planet 4. He is the first one out of the ship to confirm the air. He even reaches to physically test the water and states the results match the scans, before they all leave the shuttle. Of course, the ending is different. The book does end with the reader not knowing if Daniels figured it out or not. Instead of the cabin error, they talk about how she doesn't care about regulations and would find a way to help him once they reach Origae-6 _“Walter-thank you. For everything. You’re crew, and I don’t know what kind of a future there will be for you once the colony is established, but I know there’ll be something. I don’t care what the regulations say. I’ll see to it myself.”_ _At his touch on the external controls, the pod canopy closed. He hit the control to activate hypersleep. Her eyes were locked on his as the narcotic steam began to fill the pod._ _“I know you will, Danny, but even if you can’t do anything for me, I’ll love you just the same.”_ (after he kissed her as David, he said "You stink of Humanity, but I'll love you just the same.") _When the steam cleared, she was fast asleep. He wondered if he would dream. If so, he wondered if he would be in it. That last moment, those last words-did she know? Had she retained, at the last, just enough cognizance to comprehend?_ _The thought that she would dream of him was pleasurable._
I'm starting to realize you guys pay virtually zero attention to dialogue. A character will mention something and then you guys question it as if they didn't just effing tell you not five minutes before.
This is like every one of their videos, every reactor on this channel besides maybe greg do it and my head canon is that they know they’re doing it and are just trying to get people commenting because theres no way they can all be so oblivious and dense Andrew might be the worst one, will literally shout out something so unrelated to the movie and miss dialogue or a plot device and then question/review negatively because he doesn’t know how to just watch the damn movie
@@ChrisTheAspergerGuy nope, Aaron is bad but Andrew is worse The Ghostbusters Frozen Empire reaction has like 4-5 examples of what I exactly described, it was Andrew shouting out pointless “trivia” unrelated to the movie and him missing entire plot beats and then at the end when they reviewed it he gave them negative feedback because he couldn’t just take a minute and watch the damn movie
Prometheus and this arey favorite in the series. I dragged my boyfriend to the theater to see Prometheus. I loved the movie. A couple walked past me saying "wow that was the stupidest movie i ever seen" lol so opinions vary.
It's not an opinion to understand that the characters in both Prometheus and especially in Covenant act stupid just to further the plot. That's factual. You may enjoy that but that shows you lack the necessary critical thinking skills to understand what makes a story good or not. Prometheus has some good themes. So does Covenant. Both movies also have some of the stupidest mofos in all of movie history.
@@blinkachu5275 Ain't no critical thinking necessary. Entertainment is subjective. You can both like a movie and it can be the stupidest movie you've ever seen. Neither is a measure of "quality." Characters don't have to ACT stupid to further the plot. They ARE stupid. That IS the plot. Humans are stupid = plot. That was the plot of the first Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien 4, Prometheus, Covenant, and even Romulus. It's the central pivot of the entire franchise.
Most people said Prometheus had the dumbest scientists in a movie ever when the movie came out and then Alien: Covenant has even dumber characters. Putting these above Alien and Aliens is certainly a hot take.
These films are too deep and contemplative for many people out there. And their opinions are usually fueled by varying degrees of anger. For many of those people, they prefer teen slasher films with plenty of hormonal based behavior and a few breasts.
@blinkachu5275 Charlese Therons character used all the brains in prometheus in that one moment she torched the guy who was infected instead of letting him on board. That one reasonable action stole the IQ from the rest of the movie
Enjoyed the video, watching you two enjoying this series is a lot of fun. I know fans sometimes bash some of the series, but when you think about sequels.. this series is really pretty good. They are not terrible unlike other sequels. But the first 2 movies set the standard so high… that’s pretty hard to compete with. That’s all I’m saying. Loved the reactions, this channel has a good funny group of viewers. Congrats!!
Alien - a blue collar, working class, slasher film. 70s inflation, rising gas, an every persons decade of doing what you must for cash, despite the consequences. Aliens - a Reagan esque, military heavy romp where no matter the weapons, hubris is how you fall. Alien 3 - a grungy, dirty, Gen X slog, that shows that the dirtiest of them all, despite their issues, will stand up for whats right. (I think 4 doesn't move anything forward, so I'm skipping.) Prometheus - A "hope and change" Obama era film that ponders the innate need for us to trust where we're going and what we're made of and the hope that who created us has the empathy that we know we're capable of. We overestimate our own sociopathic programming. Alien Convenant: A late 2010s Trump era, sobering dose of reality, that when we take a risk on a "what if?" or "we should try!" only returns horrific results. The "hope and change" of our search turns out to have incredibly disgusting results in our trusting of the uncertainty.
Sometimes you guys theorize things that have already been explain in the movie e.g. David mentions that they "accidentally" released the virus onto the planet and we know from the previous movie that the Engineers created the virus as a weapon. It is a little frustrating at times.
The Walter/David misdirect is actually pretty weak when you realize they show Walter healing himself so you'd see David doesn't. It's so annoying that same thing got me the first couple times I saw it because I thought maybe he could just do that to his neck but eventually he even did that to his arm nub it's so completely obvious now on my 5th go around.
Loving these TARON reactions, honestly you guys are such a great duo, great chemistry. After all the Alien franchise and Predator franchise stuff, hope you guys stick together and react to a bunch of horror stuff, cause Tara's blood pressure is just not high enough (kidding, love you Tara, you're great and make these reactions so great!)
As soon as David cut his hair I said "He's going to switch places with the other android" and then the fight ended and "Walter" showed up I knew it was him, even with the scare David had no reason to give himself (unless it is a body switch)
I don't care what anyone says, i love this movie. I recognize some of its flaws. But i also think the hate is over exaggerated and comes from place of bias and unrealistic expectations. The movie is not perfect but its not as bad as some people make it seem. Wish they'd finish this part of the Alien saga
@simplebull210 - It gave birth to the Walter/Daniels ship - therefore it is not pointless! @Harley-chan69 - If you have read the book: "I'll love you anyways" is a better ending.
I love it too. The theming, foreshadowing, music choice, and storytelling are all excellent. There are some minor details that don’t make as much sense (like the scientists not doing enough analysis before breathing open air on an unknown planet), but they’re forgivable for the most part. The film is gorgeous. And the ending was genius too
You may say what you want to say about Covenant, but Michael Fassbender makes these films great with David’s god complex. Ridley Scott needs to make a third of this trilogy, but not beat around the bush when it comes down to the complex lore of this universe.
Here are some movie suggestions just because I can... The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise (If any of the Rejects haven't seen it.) The Invisible Man (2020) The John Wick franchise Critters (1986) It (the original mini series and the 2 modern movies.) The Harry Potter franchise The Jurassic Park franchise Super 8 (2011)
Every reactor leaves everyone to die when watching these movies. There is never an urge to try to save anyone. None of this means that I will stop watching.
Check out the original screen play it a million times better and it fleshes out David’s story also the accompanying book ‘David’s Drawings’ is a must read.
The book ending though... The reader doesn't know if Daniels figured it out since there was no cabin by the lake mistake. There was only "I'll love you just the same" that you have to remember he said after he kissed her. He even wonders if she figured it out.
It’s shocking to me that audiences aren’t suspicious enough of David in the first movie and still don’t understand how dangerous he is in this movie until it’s all being laid out. Maybe it’s the politeness? As long as David is bland and polite, nobody seems bothered to dig deeper. Which, of tbh, meshes with my experience of society, where people will accept those who can blend in with their group and appear to respect their feelings of importance/value within the group, even if that person’s actions demonstrate clear violations of values that the group believes that all members should uphold. It makes sense that David was “too human” and promoted the creation of Walter, who to me seems just as human but with a more humanistic attitude. David is human in the way cult leaders are human.
Blame it on Bishop. Ash was bad but Bishop was good. Call was also good (as a auton created by the synthetics and not humans) If you played the game, Isolation, Christopher Samuels helps Amanda Ripley. That of course led to many a shipper of Ellen Ripley/Bishop, Call/Ripley, A. Ripley/Samuels and Shaw/David 8 at the end of Prometheus for those who interpreted his actions as unable to disobey Weyland and not his own actions). You only know David 8 is bad if you watch Prologue: The Crossing, where Shaw attaches David's head to his body, you see she trusts him to put her in cryo (And she may have been sick given her pallor) and you see the weapons being dropped
3:53 - "Bring me this tea...David". One of the greatest lines in recent films, its crazy the amount of subtext and intent there is behind that one single line. I wish more films could pull off dialogue like this, its a fucking shame we get this kinda stuff rarely nowadays. It also kind of ticks me off that a lot of people miss this line and dont' realize what its trying to convey lol
Before you guys watch the movie people in the common forget to mention official "alien covenant prologues" in youtube what really happend to last movie Elizabeth Shaw and James Franco cammeo.
This is such a violent movie when it comes the the emergence of the aliens, really hard to watch. I always feel sorry for the actors in these scenarios as a hell of a lot is cut from this movie that would have made it way more coherent and probably successful. The actors think they are filming one thing and then have to promote a different and worse off project.
Actually David only recreated the aliens. In Prometheus you can see a painting of an alien queen in the background of the room where they find the pods, meaning the engineers were already aware of the aliens. Also the crashed ship of the very first movie had a dead pilot which was fossilized. That would not happen within just a few years, so the ship probably crashed a long time ago. You could also take the AvP movies into consideration, if you really wanted to. If you think of the Covenant aliens as kind of a "second" generation the AvP movies do not really go against anything established in the other movies. As a sidenote: the white aliens in this movie are called neomorphs and the bulky ones are the protomorphs.
@@steelbarber I'm not sure. I just took another look at it and it does have four arms and a "crown". However the shape isn't right. Maybe this is supposed to be a "deacon queen"? Either way, it still proves that the xenomorphs, or at least one sub-species of xenomorph, was already known to the engineers. It is really too bad that we never got the third part of that trilogy. Maybe this riddle could have been solved.
I do think these are fun to watch but then when you give an in depth review/criticism at the end, it’s kind of hard to take seriously because you have talked over key moments of dialogue and story. I think it might be beneficial to have shorter videos and not talk quite so much.
is the fact that we know that things are gonna go badly because of the movie and the outsider knowledge of we know that what kind of movie this is. open against Hope we want things to go well for them however, every viewer knows the truth that things will not go well. We are really waiting for the shoe to drop.
all the complaints about these films could be said about the original, touching things they shouldn't, stupid crew blah blah.. this film is the perfect blend of the mysteries of Prometheus and the classic Alien tropes. Best one right here 😎
The Problem with this Movie as well as Prometheus is the Need to EXPLAIN something that didn't Need and explanation. This is the same as Lucas creating Midichlorians to Explain The Force in Star Wars. Its all a RETCON and people Hate Retcons.
I think it's a valid complaint with Prometheus. The crew in that movie are supposed to be the best of the best because of how important the mission is to Weyland, you'd think a bunch of highly educated field scientists would be more careful around potential biohazards on an alien planet and clearly hostile mutated fauna. Compare that to the crew of blue collar space truckers in the original Alien and it makes a lot more sense in that film's context. At least in Covenant it's the less educated members of the crew who initially are infected and completely by accident, which is way more believable. I still find it a bit odd that in both this and Prometheus they would enter and explore an alien biome with no respirators or helmets even if the air is breathable. I feel like that's the first thing I would be concerned about in that situation. Like you have no idea what could possibly be in the air even if there's enough oxygen to breathe.
Not knowing the word covenant is crazy... its a promise made two ways, you promise me this, and I promise you that... a marriage for example is a covenant, a lot of times theres symbolism used which is why religious promises usually called covenants, anyway, many religions call baptism a covenant, they say your promising to believe in and follow Christ, hes promising Eternal Life or whatever they believe... anyway, that's what a covenant is, a promise made two ways...
I feel like the reason I kinda don’t like the movie is it paints David as the creator of the Xenos when in actuality they came from before because this is in the future
HELL YES! So stoked for this one! Idc what people say, as I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Hopefully you guys will have the same opinion as I have.🤞😅😉👍
I wasn’t a fan of either of the two movies Prometheus or Covenant. I felt like both were the director trying to move away from Cameron’s take on Scott’s characters and that’s not what some people wanted. He moved away from the xenomorphs and was touching on the creators of them and how they seeded all of these planets and could have created humans blah blah blah,just wasn’t interested. I wanted to see people fighting for their lives against xenomorphs and I got, mess. The science in this movie makes zero sense, what space explorers land on an unknown planet, don’t put on encounter suits to go take samples of things to see if it’s safe to be exposed. These fools are just stomping around and don’t care that they released spores into the air they are breathing and then take the infected personnel on to the ship to risk exposing everyone, didn’t we cover this in the first movie? Wouldn’t all of this be covered in training for any space faring people? Also we go through all of this drama in the movie before which ends with Shaw repairing David who then ends up killing her and using her for a xenomorph shake in bake oven. We don’t see it but the concept art from the movie shows he did horrible experiments on her in an attempt to turn her into a queen xenomorph and that just pissed me off. I hope they don’t ever return to this storyline in the new films or they give it to a new director because I don’t know what Scott was trying to do, but this ain’t it.
aaand i have to disagree, prometheus was just awful, in terms of the characters set design and story. what makes prometheus better is its connection to covenant with david
I've been watching all of theses like right before your videos have been coming out, so I've been enjoying them even more. This definitely made Prometheus more interesting in hindsight. I had completely forgotten it when I watched a second time and felt like it was forgettable this second time around too...
I think it's hilarious that this movie and Prometheus were so bad and tanked so hard the studios refused to let ridley scott to direct the next one....and it did WAY better without him.
43:20 Walter is a more advanced model compared to Ash and Bishop. He has self-repairing capabilities, which allow him to heal from injuries. This feature is part of his design to make him more resilient and reliable for long-term missions1. Ash, on the other hand, is an older model with a different set of priorities. He was designed primarily for scientific and covert operations, which didn’t include self-repairing abilities2. Bishop is another advanced model, but his design focuses more on human interaction and ethical behavior, rather than self-repair. His primary function was to assist and protect the crew, adhering to strict behavioral inhibitors being a prequel doesnt mean they were built in that order, Ash and Bishop models were earlier and different than Walter.
I’m going to disagree with y’all on this one. It’s my least liked alien film. I thought this is a movie with Aliens in it but not an an alien movie which is funny because it was directed by the creator of the whole franchise. Plus I didn’t like the concept of David viewing himself as a God, the off screen death of Elizabeth Shaw, and the captain’s decision to follow David into face hugger pod lair after he killed a proto-xenomorph
they shot scenes with the crew together on ship and showed there relationships and shot the scenes between shaw and david on the ship and what happend to her but cut it all out in the final film , you can see both on youtube , it would have improved the film
You guys are getting deep into it now. Can't wait to see Tara freak out at AVP or Romulus. Not the second AVP though I think despite the dope concept that movie can be left alone
Great video. I love your unique ways to name creatures and characters. It's so adorable. My mother does that aswell. I can't even spell the name she gave Lui Kang from Mortal Kombat.
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The landing scene was filmed in Milford Sound within Fiordland National Park New Zealand
Just so you know, it's not Sigourney Weaver doing the voice, it's Lorelei King
"The engineer creates the human, the human creates the android, the engineer creates the weapon, the android steals the weapon, the android destroys the engineer with the weapon, the android creates the alien from the weapon, the alien destroys the human."
Dr. Ian Malcolm
Brilliant logic tree. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⚡🥃
Android inherits the earth
@@avengersassemble1458 and ripley blast aliens to peaces lol
Perfection 🤌🏽😂
Weird drinking physics bird inherits the universe.
I’ll always die on the hill of this being a good movie for the alien series. It’s not perfect, but it’s got some gorgeous storytelling elements in it. David’s character progression is unbelievably good and the music choice & score? My god don’t even get me started it’s excellent. I adore this film regardless of the alien fandom’s general thoughts
Also known as "Let's go to an unknown planet and immediately all of us breathe in ALL its equally unknown microorganisms 'cause we real smart sciency folk we are."
Fassbender is truly an ss-class actor.
Somehow managed to deliver two character's lines, tone and accent completely differently.
The way he portrays Walter's demeanor, mannerisms, body language and attitude are incredibly different than the way he acts David out.
He's one of the very best and i wouldn't be surprised if he reaches de niro, alpacino level of greatness.
More like, im sure he will. By the time he's 80 he'll be screen legend.
He's german so maybe dont associate him with the letters "ss"
GIVE ME EIGHT MORE MOVIES ABOUT DAVID DOING WEIRD SHIT IN SPACE
I saw a book called David's drawings and it shows all David's work on the planet. So disturbing drawings. I hate how detailed the facehugger implanted looks. Looks very..........un cut lol
Youre not gettin it womp womp
@@domesticmh4567 get what?
@@domesticmh4567well considering Andy and Rain are on their way to the same planet, the possibility of seeing more David is likely.
@@sletha2067I have that book, it gets pretty dark. David has some odd fantasies about Shaw.
It’s too bad this movie tanked hard at the box office when it could’ve done so well. I think what would’ve made it a little bit better was if they showed the important plot points in the movie instead of cutting them out entirely and putting them on UA-cam instead. Not every movie has to give you homework.
LOL clever
Probably its only downfall was releasing those clips. If you just saw the movie without those, then it’s still a great movie
I think a lot of people just lost interest after AvP, AvP2 and Prometheus. I sure did.
I don't even know why it's called a flop considering it made 240 millions against a 100 million budget.
@@jjrod2988I guess double isn’t enough due to greed and also cuz of all the shitting on it ig lol
Well David didn’t really invented the xenomorphs, the engineers did thousands of years ago, he just recreated the process
Exactly, that's why his chest bursters are different and his Xenos look muscular instead of biomechanical
I wish covenant keep a scene where David explained the lore about Xeno and Engineer
Also, I don’t think the Alien lore really clarifies if the Engineers created the Xenomorphs or just reverse engineered the bioweapon from them.
The original Engineers couldn't procreate, they created the goo to alter DNA, what they didn't expect was to create a Deacon. They worshipped the Deacon and the process of being used as a vessel for these beings. However something happens and they decide to lock up the goo and only use it to wipe species out. The ship in Prometheus was meant for Earth.
David used Shaw's body with the goo after much experimenting to create the first eggs. David does this without a Queen, because Shaw's genetic material is used to make David's xenomorphs which are cousins to the xenomorphs we saw in Alien/Aliens
@@ibkawodele8977I think the mural in Prometheus supports this.
Do you think they struck a successful blend of tones between Classic Alien & Prometheus??
Covenant is a weird movie for me. This is my fourth time watching it, and whilst I kinda enjoy it while I'm watching, once it's over I instantly forget everything that happened.
I think they did a good job, brought back visceral alien violence and somehow in trying to balance it and make everyone happy pissed off the most people. Idk I liked Covenant but I get people feeling underwhelmed and it doesn't help that these movies kinda make you connect dots on your own to figure out the engineer/goo/xenomorph relationship and if you don't understand it why would you care? It leaves you less invested
I wish the alien movie would have split into two plot lines. The body horror and the higher concept. This movie attempted to live in two worlds and failed. The newest movie succeeded in heading down the horror route. Would be nice to see this plot line continued as well, as I enjoy the direction it was headed after prometheus
@N3ur0m4nc3r yeah like a "choose your own adventure" type of situation lol.
No, not really.
Katherine Waterston - the short haired lady is also in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Finding out that alien and blade runner share the same universe buss my head
That’s pretty sick
I'm surprised how many people can't work out if it is David or Walter at the end, Walter can heal, so the damage to his face would have healed which means it has to be David pretending to be Walter.
OMG I didn't even think about that 😮
Terrible writing, that's why!
"let him cook!" 6:37
Literally burns to death seconds later, lmaoooo
Just like "right away, sir" lol
@@sblee6757 yes, chef!
Vexbolts bro
regarding the computer on the Covenant, it wasn't Sigourney Weaver voicing it, it was a voice actress named Lorelei King
"let him cook!" "I didn't mean literally" LOLLLL
The planet they're on isn't actually the Engineers' homeworld. It’s more of a settlement they used and those indigenous were another race created by the Engineers. Also David was merely trying to replicate the xenomorph that were referenced by the Engineers. Some background is the engineers either discovered or developed an organism as a bioweapon. This was called the wolf and is meant to be the first iteration of xenomorphs
The book mentions that David found an egg sac with a face-hugger in it that was dead/petrified. That is why Oram looks and the egg sac and believes David that he is safe. He has survived looking at one already as well as everything in the lab.
I wish the movie had included things from the book that show as it makes them less "reckless" as they are depicted in the movie. Walter had made scans during the few weeks they had to travel to Planet 4. He is the first one out of the ship to confirm the air. He even reaches to physically test the water and states the results match the scans, before they all leave the shuttle.
Of course, the ending is different. The book does end with the reader not knowing if Daniels figured it out or not.
Instead of the cabin error, they talk about how she doesn't care about regulations and would find a way to help him once they reach Origae-6
_“Walter-thank you. For everything. You’re crew, and I don’t know what kind of a future there will be for you once the colony is established, but I know there’ll be something. I don’t care what the regulations say. I’ll see to it myself.”_
_At his touch on the external controls, the pod canopy closed. He hit the control to activate hypersleep. Her eyes were locked on his as the narcotic steam began to fill the pod._
_“I know you will, Danny, but even if you can’t do anything for me, I’ll love you just the same.”_
(after he kissed her as David, he said "You stink of Humanity, but I'll love you just the same.")
_When the steam cleared, she was fast asleep. He wondered if he would dream. If so, he wondered if he would be in it. That last moment, those last words-did she know? Had she retained, at the last, just enough cognizance to comprehend?_
_The thought that she would dream of him was pleasurable._
The epilogues give a lot more context to what happened and what would be to come
How the hell you both heard Sigourney Weaver is beyond me 😐
Same. I didn’t hear it but i trust them.
@@DeeSee25 it's not, that's the point. Are we all trolling here?
If one had said it was Morgan Freeman the other would agree anyway
@@Kromark 😂
I don't know if it was or not but I thought it sounded like her before they said it
YES YES YES YES!!!!! Aaron is soooo right in that this film makes Prometheus better and I just love all the world building
I'm starting to realize you guys pay virtually zero attention to dialogue. A character will mention something and then you guys question it as if they didn't just effing tell you not five minutes before.
This is like every one of their videos, every reactor on this channel besides maybe greg do it and my head canon is that they know they’re doing it and are just trying to get people commenting because theres no way they can all be so oblivious and dense
Andrew might be the worst one, will literally shout out something so unrelated to the movie and miss dialogue or a plot device and then question/review negatively because he doesn’t know how to just watch the damn movie
@@evilclown5 Are you sure you don't mean Aaron? Because everything you described is what he does. I've never noticed that with Andrew.
at this point, they do it for that chunk paycheck 😂
It’s either that, or they’re jump scaring ‘purge’, talking or theorizing about things that’ll soon have answers while missing actions and/or dialogue…
@@ChrisTheAspergerGuy nope, Aaron is bad but Andrew is worse
The Ghostbusters Frozen Empire reaction has like 4-5 examples of what I exactly described, it was Andrew shouting out pointless “trivia” unrelated to the movie and him missing entire plot beats and then at the end when they reviewed it he gave them negative feedback because he couldn’t just take a minute and watch the damn movie
“That’s not what it normally looks like” bruh, this movie takes place BEFORE the originals. Jesus god all mighty 😂😂
Prometheus and this arey favorite in the series. I dragged my boyfriend to the theater to see Prometheus. I loved the movie. A couple walked past me saying "wow that was the stupidest movie i ever seen" lol so opinions vary.
It's not an opinion to understand that the characters in both Prometheus and especially in Covenant act stupid just to further the plot. That's factual. You may enjoy that but that shows you lack the necessary critical thinking skills to understand what makes a story good or not.
Prometheus has some good themes. So does Covenant. Both movies also have some of the stupidest mofos in all of movie history.
@@blinkachu5275 Ain't no critical thinking necessary. Entertainment is subjective. You can both like a movie and it can be the stupidest movie you've ever seen. Neither is a measure of "quality." Characters don't have to ACT stupid to further the plot. They ARE stupid. That IS the plot. Humans are stupid = plot. That was the plot of the first Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien 4, Prometheus, Covenant, and even Romulus. It's the central pivot of the entire franchise.
Most people said Prometheus had the dumbest scientists in a movie ever when the movie came out and then Alien: Covenant has even dumber characters. Putting these above Alien and Aliens is certainly a hot take.
These films are too deep and contemplative for many people out there. And their opinions are usually fueled by varying degrees of anger. For many of those people, they prefer teen slasher films with plenty of hormonal based behavior and a few breasts.
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Charlese Therons character used all the brains in prometheus in that one moment she torched the guy who was infected instead of letting him on board. That one reasonable action stole the IQ from the rest of the movie
Can't wait for y'alls Alien Romulus reaction soon! 💜
It will never not be funny to me that Danny McBride and James Franco are in an Alien movie lol
Enjoyed the video, watching you two enjoying this series is a lot of fun. I know fans sometimes bash some of the series, but when you think about sequels.. this series is really pretty good. They are not terrible unlike other sequels. But the first 2 movies set the standard so high… that’s pretty hard to compete with. That’s all I’m saying. Loved the reactions, this channel has a good funny group of viewers. Congrats!!
Alien - a blue collar, working class, slasher film. 70s inflation, rising gas, an every persons decade of doing what you must for cash, despite the consequences.
Aliens - a Reagan esque, military heavy romp where no matter the weapons, hubris is how you fall.
Alien 3 - a grungy, dirty, Gen X slog, that shows that the dirtiest of them all, despite their issues, will stand up for whats right.
(I think 4 doesn't move anything forward, so I'm skipping.)
Prometheus - A "hope and change" Obama era film that ponders the innate need for us to trust where we're going and what we're made of and the hope that who created us has the empathy that we know we're capable of. We overestimate our own sociopathic programming.
Alien Convenant: A late 2010s Trump era, sobering dose of reality, that when we take a risk on a "what if?" or "we should try!" only returns horrific results. The "hope and change" of our search turns out to have incredibly disgusting results in our trusting of the uncertainty.
Sometimes you guys theorize things that have already been explain in the movie e.g. David mentions that they "accidentally" released the virus onto the planet and we know from the previous movie that the Engineers created the virus as a weapon. It is a little frustrating at times.
42:11 omg that was so quick and tactical 😮😮😮
The clapping at the beginning 😂
I hope you guys react to AvP films as well before seeing Romulus!
Bloody loved this ALIEN's music the bass every time is great feeling
Even more questions than answers, tbh. Also apparently, Deacon somehow became a mountain. Bit of wasted of potential with that and Shaw
The Walter/David misdirect is actually pretty weak when you realize they show Walter healing himself so you'd see David doesn't. It's so annoying that same thing got me the first couple times I saw it because I thought maybe he could just do that to his neck but eventually he even did that to his arm nub it's so completely obvious now on my 5th go around.
I don't know why you two are my fave combo on this channel 😊
Think this is how we first met Aaron. He appeared with Tara & she is like (meet my friend Aaron)..
And yes, i loved them ever since
Loving these TARON reactions, honestly you guys are such a great duo, great chemistry. After all the Alien franchise and Predator franchise stuff, hope you guys stick together and react to a bunch of horror stuff, cause Tara's blood pressure is just not high enough (kidding, love you Tara, you're great and make these reactions so great!)
TARON?
@@Aman-fn5hz
You don't know about portmanteaus?
His name is Aaron, and her's is Tara
He even said it: Together we are Taron.
@@ChibiHoshiDragon thanks I must of missed it
Now that Shejects is up and rolling, I’m excited to support “Taaron” and all the fun movies you two watch.
Some of the crew were frustratingly incompetent and negligent!
As soon as David cut his hair I said "He's going to switch places with the other android" and then the fight ended and "Walter" showed up I knew it was him, even with the scare David had no reason to give himself (unless it is a body switch)
I don't care what anyone says, i love this movie. I recognize some of its flaws. But i also think the hate is over exaggerated and comes from place of bias and unrealistic expectations. The movie is not perfect but its not as bad as some people make it seem. Wish they'd finish this part of the Alien saga
Its mostly because it’s pointless
@simplebull210 - It gave birth to the Walter/Daniels ship - therefore it is not pointless!
@Harley-chan69 - If you have read the book: "I'll love you anyways" is a better ending.
“Shake that thang” had me dead
It's actually "Shake that ting", lol he was quoting Sean Paul's song "Get Busy"
@@TitanGT66 yea no shit but thanks for the spell check king. 👑
@@shadstahl9594 You're welcome
31:30 The MOTHER was voiced by Helen Horton ....Small trivia here
Not in this movie
A lot of people didnt like this movie but i don’t careeeeee i loved it lol I watch it allll the time
The effects in this movie look freakin amazing to me. Idk how people have a problem with iT. It’s so cool and real
I love it too. The theming, foreshadowing, music choice, and storytelling are all excellent. There are some minor details that don’t make as much sense (like the scientists not doing enough analysis before breathing open air on an unknown planet), but they’re forgivable for the most part. The film is gorgeous. And the ending was genius too
Tara said "what a lovely pour he has" just as i was pouring root beer over ice cream and trying not to make foam. 😮
You may say what you want to say about Covenant, but Michael Fassbender makes these films great with David’s god complex. Ridley Scott needs to make a third of this trilogy, but not beat around the bush when it comes down to the complex lore of this universe.
Here are some movie suggestions just because I can...
The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise (If any of the Rejects haven't seen it.)
The Invisible Man (2020)
The John Wick franchise
Critters (1986)
It (the original mini series and the 2 modern movies.)
The Harry Potter franchise
The Jurassic Park franchise
Super 8 (2011)
It's not that great as Prometheus but I honestly loved that movie. ❤ Whenever it's comes down to alien stuffs Ridley Scott is the best man.
Shaw’s death was just horrifying even if you don’t see hers just makes it even worse
Every reactor leaves everyone to die when watching these movies. There is never an urge to try to save anyone. None of this means that I will stop watching.
You could tell a switch was coming when David changed his hair color like Walter's.
The writing in this film is pretty convenient
As soon as he heard they had 2,000 colonists he started salivating internally 😅😅
Did UA-cam really make you censor a spore burrowing into an ear? 😂😂😂
Check out the original screen play it a million times better and it fleshes out David’s story also the accompanying book ‘David’s Drawings’ is a must read.
The book ending though...
The reader doesn't know if Daniels figured it out since there was no cabin by the lake mistake.
There was only "I'll love you just the same" that you have to remember he said after he kissed her.
He even wonders if she figured it out.
It’s shocking to me that audiences aren’t suspicious enough of David in the first movie and still don’t understand how dangerous he is in this movie until it’s all being laid out. Maybe it’s the politeness? As long as David is bland and polite, nobody seems bothered to dig deeper. Which, of tbh, meshes with my experience of society, where people will accept those who can blend in with their group and appear to respect their feelings of importance/value within the group, even if that person’s actions demonstrate clear violations of values that the group believes that all members should uphold.
It makes sense that David was “too human” and promoted the creation of Walter, who to me seems just as human but with a more humanistic attitude. David is human in the way cult leaders are human.
Blame it on Bishop.
Ash was bad but Bishop was good.
Call was also good (as a auton created by the synthetics and not humans)
If you played the game, Isolation, Christopher Samuels helps Amanda Ripley.
That of course led to many a shipper of Ellen Ripley/Bishop, Call/Ripley, A. Ripley/Samuels and Shaw/David 8 at the end of Prometheus for those who interpreted his actions as unable to disobey Weyland and not his own actions).
You only know David 8 is bad if you watch Prologue: The Crossing, where Shaw attaches David's head to his body, you see she trusts him to put her in cryo (And she may have been sick given her pallor) and you see the weapons being dropped
David when creating the xenomorphs: "yeah so they gotta be the perfect organism...but I gotta make them scared of cats tho bc fuck them mfs"
Listening to tara is like a guilty pleasure. She is like a coke addict on a sugar rush but damn she grows on u so fast. Need 1 percent of her energy
3:53 - "Bring me this tea...David". One of the greatest lines in recent films, its crazy the amount of subtext and intent there is behind that one single line. I wish more films could pull off dialogue like this, its a fucking shame we get this kinda stuff rarely nowadays. It also kind of ticks me off that a lot of people miss this line and dont' realize what its trying to convey lol
What does it mean?
Before you guys watch the movie people in the common forget to mention official "alien covenant prologues" in youtube what really happend to last movie Elizabeth Shaw and James Franco cammeo.
This is such a violent movie when it comes the the emergence of the aliens, really hard to watch.
I always feel sorry for the actors in these scenarios as a hell of a lot is cut from this movie that would have made it way more coherent and probably successful. The actors think they are filming one thing and then have to promote a different and worse off project.
Actually David only recreated the aliens.
In Prometheus you can see a painting of an alien queen in the background of the room where they find the pods, meaning the engineers were already aware of the aliens.
Also the crashed ship of the very first movie had a dead pilot which was fossilized.
That would not happen within just a few years, so the ship probably crashed a long time ago.
You could also take the AvP movies into consideration, if you really wanted to.
If you think of the Covenant aliens as kind of a "second" generation the AvP movies do not really go against anything established in the other movies.
As a sidenote: the white aliens in this movie are called neomorphs and the bulky ones are the protomorphs.
The mural is of the Deacon
@@steelbarber I'm not sure.
I just took another look at it and it does have four arms and a "crown".
However the shape isn't right.
Maybe this is supposed to be a "deacon queen"?
Either way, it still proves that the xenomorphs, or at least one sub-species of xenomorph, was already known to the engineers.
It is really too bad that we never got the third part of that trilogy.
Maybe this riddle could have been solved.
I enjoy covenant more than Prometheus but at the end of the day I just don’t like my Alien Films to be weighted down by lore and histrionics.
Can we watch the predator movies then alien vs predator
This still my favorite film in Alien franchise and I won't apologize for my love.
I do think these are fun to watch but then when you give an in depth review/criticism at the end, it’s kind of hard to take seriously because you have talked over key moments of dialogue and story. I think it might be beneficial to have shorter videos and not talk quite so much.
Great vid as always and can’t wait for when Romulus comes out on digital for y’all’s reaction!
Next AVP: Alien Vs Predator (2004) 😊 a underappreciate cult classic monster gem 💎
James Franco's best role lol
is the fact that we know that things are gonna go badly because of the movie and the outsider knowledge of we know that what kind of movie this is. open against Hope we want things to go well for them however, every viewer knows the truth that things will not go well. We are really waiting for the shoe to drop.
I loved this one way better than Prometheus. I hope the success of Romulus will enable them to give us finale on David's story.
success? alien covenant was a box office flop. It underperformed
@@thewerewolff7248 I meant Romulus, lol. Fixed it
all the complaints about these films could be said about the original, touching things they shouldn't, stupid crew blah blah.. this film is the perfect blend of the mysteries of Prometheus and the classic Alien tropes. Best one right here 😎
Not true
The Problem with this Movie as well as Prometheus is the Need to EXPLAIN something that didn't Need and explanation. This is the same as Lucas creating Midichlorians to Explain The Force in Star Wars. Its all a RETCON and people Hate Retcons.
I think it's a valid complaint with Prometheus. The crew in that movie are supposed to be the best of the best because of how important the mission is to Weyland, you'd think a bunch of highly educated field scientists would be more careful around potential biohazards on an alien planet and clearly hostile mutated fauna. Compare that to the crew of blue collar space truckers in the original Alien and it makes a lot more sense in that film's context. At least in Covenant it's the less educated members of the crew who initially are infected and completely by accident, which is way more believable. I still find it a bit odd that in both this and Prometheus they would enter and explore an alien biome with no respirators or helmets even if the air is breathable. I feel like that's the first thing I would be concerned about in that situation. Like you have no idea what could possibly be in the air even if there's enough oxygen to breathe.
I wonder how many people would raise the same complaint about Star Trek where they basically never take ANY safety measures 😂
@@Renoistic If you're a trekkie you'd know it's one of the well known jokes between us lol
36:22 Why do you say "Good catch" without even confirming if it really is Signorney Weaver?
That did make me chuckle just a bit. They were both sure in the moment at least lol
Tara and Aaron should watch the Cloverfield trilogy
No I liked aliens,aliens and aliens3 better because Sigourney Weaver was in them and this and Prometheus was just ok to me.
Not knowing the word covenant is crazy... its a promise made two ways, you promise me this, and I promise you that... a marriage for example is a covenant, a lot of times theres symbolism used which is why religious promises usually called covenants, anyway, many religions call baptism a covenant, they say your promising to believe in and follow Christ, hes promising Eternal Life or whatever they believe... anyway, that's what a covenant is, a promise made two ways...
I feel like the reason I kinda don’t like the movie is it paints David as the creator of the Xenos when in actuality they came from before because this is in the future
The fact that James Franco's name has been brought up in so may of theses reactions 😂😂😂
He just want to be normal again!
HELL YES! So stoked for this one! Idc what people say, as I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Hopefully you guys will have the same opinion as I have.🤞😅😉👍
HERE BEFORE 1k VIEWS, love this franchiseee
26:01 That’s what she said
I wasn’t a fan of either of the two movies Prometheus or Covenant. I felt like both were the director trying to move away from Cameron’s take on Scott’s characters and that’s not what some people wanted. He moved away from the xenomorphs and was touching on the creators of them and how they seeded all of these planets and could have created humans blah blah blah,just wasn’t interested. I wanted to see people fighting for their lives against xenomorphs and I got, mess. The science in this movie makes zero sense, what space explorers land on an unknown planet, don’t put on encounter suits to go take samples of things to see if it’s safe to be exposed. These fools are just stomping around and don’t care that they released spores into the air they are breathing and then take the infected personnel on to the ship to risk exposing everyone, didn’t we cover this in the first movie? Wouldn’t all of this be covered in training for any space faring people? Also we go through all of this drama in the movie before which ends with Shaw repairing David who then ends up killing her and using her for a xenomorph shake in bake oven. We don’t see it but the concept art from the movie shows he did horrible experiments on her in an attempt to turn her into a queen xenomorph and that just pissed me off. I hope they don’t ever return to this storyline in the new films or they give it to a new director because I don’t know what Scott was trying to do, but this ain’t it.
I have to disagree, not that I don't like this one, in fact I love the first half, Prometheus was a masterpiece.
aaand i have to disagree, prometheus was just awful, in terms of the characters set design and story. what makes prometheus better is its connection to covenant with david
I get some of yall get upset with these reactions but I don’t share the same feelings at all. Interesting
I've been watching all of theses like right before your videos have been coming out, so I've been enjoying them even more. This definitely made Prometheus more interesting in hindsight. I had completely forgotten it when I watched a second time and felt like it was forgettable this second time around too...
I think it's hilarious that this movie and Prometheus were so bad and tanked so hard the studios refused to let ridley scott to direct the next one....and it did WAY better without him.
43:20 Walter is a more advanced model compared to Ash and Bishop. He has self-repairing capabilities, which allow him to heal from injuries. This feature is part of his design to make him more resilient and reliable for long-term missions1.
Ash, on the other hand, is an older model with a different set of priorities. He was designed primarily for scientific and covert operations, which didn’t include self-repairing abilities2.
Bishop is another advanced model, but his design focuses more on human interaction and ethical behavior, rather than self-repair. His primary function was to assist and protect the crew, adhering to strict behavioral inhibitors
being a prequel doesnt mean they were built in that order, Ash and Bishop models were earlier and different than Walter.
I’m going to disagree with y’all on this one. It’s my least liked alien film. I thought this is a movie with Aliens in it but not an an alien movie which is funny because it was directed by the creator of the whole franchise. Plus I didn’t like the concept of David viewing himself as a God, the off screen death of Elizabeth Shaw, and the captain’s decision to follow David into face hugger pod lair after he killed a proto-xenomorph
❤❤❤TARON❤ ❤❤ love this movie!
Do you guys like the rainbow......
they shot scenes with the crew together on ship and showed there relationships and shot the scenes between shaw and david on the ship and what happend to her but cut it all out in the final film , you can see both on youtube , it would have improved the film
I think the Shaw scenes would have ruined the surprise and suspense but they're good to watch afterwards.
I remember the crew scenes when I saw it at the theater. Did they only cut it out for certain places?
@@sproductionsincNo, you saw them on UA-cam. They were not in the theater. The original prologue scene was on UA-cam.
The moment i saw an android that looks like David at the begining of the film i knew he would swap places. So crap
24:42 oohhhh it's soo cute
Alien Covenant? More like the Roast of James Franco..
This movie is a hollow course correction, and the only this movie was a perfect marriage of was mediocrity and pretentiousness
You guys are getting deep into it now. Can't wait to see Tara freak out at AVP or Romulus. Not the second AVP though I think despite the dope concept that movie can be left alone
Tara’s overwhelming enthusiasm is one of my favorite things
She gives me big Louise from Bob's Burgers energy and I'm here for it every time lol
@@brettcloud8550 that is wildly accurate
Great video. I love your unique ways to name creatures and characters. It's so adorable.
My mother does that aswell. I can't even spell the name she gave Lui Kang from Mortal Kombat.
how can y'all not understand david by now?
The white ones are neomorph the alien that comes out the captain is the protomoroph
Tara! We love you
That was a ‘Deacon’ at the end of Prometheus. The white alien in this movie is a ‘neomorph’ and the final alien is a ‘protomorph’
thank you for the react!! 🫶🏼💗 and i cannot wait for y’all to watch romulus !!! it’s my in my top 3 alien movies :)