Nice bike, but one thing I noticed is all the bikes today restrict the exhaust. I have another brand of Chinese bike and it's a 250cc 2 stroke. And the first thing I noticed was that after the expansion chamber it was choked down to a pipe that is only about 1" in diameter and that is the out side. In fact I just check it with my Calipers and it is 1.09 inches. Now if you look back at older bikes they were about an 1.5 size or greater. So why is it that manufacturer are choking off these bikes? Even my cheap Appollo the exhaust system seem small. And if you bike can't get the exhaust out it can't take anything in. If it is restricted then the exhaust from one stroke can't get out fully then it has to try and burn the next stroke with carbon from the first stroke still in there. That ruins the performance of you engine. And in another video I saw on here, I believe you can find it if you type in "Rebuilding the upper end of my KTM after 20 hours", but anyway there was a lot of carbon build up on that piston and a piece of the carbon build up dislodged and got into the piston rings and it no longer got a good seal with the cylinder and it acted like the rings were warn out. So when I get the money together I'm taking mine down to a fab shop that does mig and tig welding and replacing that pipe with an 1.5 ID piece of pipe. Just my thought on bikes today.
The work that goes into a business like GPX is amazing. Good customer service, important upgrades, parts support. It is hard for me to take a risk on a relatively unknown bike. It is good to hear that you recommend either one.
I got my 450r set up this week, recorded a clip on my channel for those who wanna see it riding, nothing special. One thing I checked was bolts, I went through every bolt on the bike, I found a few bolts that were more loose than others from the factory, other than that I had no problems. I haven’t touched a motorcycle in almost 10 years and I was able to put the bike together, took me probably 8 hours with some frustrations but it’s possible! I love the new odo/tach. I’ll be waiting for some more videos!
Flame out were rare, and yes she tractors very nicely. Unfortunetly all modern FI 4 strokes suffer from flame outs, the worst one I rode was a Honda crf450l and holy crap that thing flamed out in really crappy situations, but the GPX was pretty solid. It's ocassional, and maybe it's fixed in 22's, but an AOF clutch helps that.
I recently started comparing the GPX 300r, klx 300 and the crf 300l. They are all priced around the same, within a few hundred bucks. This gpx really isnt that cheap when you compare it to these other bikes. When it comes down to pulling the trigger though I think the GPX has the best suspension, I just wish the enduro kit came on the bike and not just included with it. Waiting for the next shipment of these bikes to come in, already have a 300r on reserve.
The bikes is holding up great! Honestly these engines and frames are bulletproof. I beat the hell out of mine and she keeps asking for more. I know many people have reservations about the Chinese thing as I did too, but GPX is cut from a different cloth and I own 2 and I’m very happy.
I had a Husky TE310 and felt like power was still lacking. Wondering how it compares to one of those bikes. I think beta has hit the sweet spot with their 390.
This bike has some good pull to it. It can wheelie pretty good but not power wheelie easily from any rpm like a high performance engine, there is a trade off when you choose a bike with a high performance engine and that is rebuilds. This engine seems to have the best of both worlds. Strong pull and long maintenance intervals. I really do like this engine.
Thanks for the video! Everide in his review stated the 250R had an awkward position/placement for the ignition key. Did they update that too with the 300R or is it still in down on the side where it can be "accidentally" turned off during heavy riding?
Nope, Key is where it should be now! It's next to the dash where it belongs. They really did up their game in the update for 2020, and they did another upgrade 2020.5 where the changed the plastics to a more KTM style. I was impressed by the finish and attention to detail. Thanks for watching!
You know Id be the first to comment LOL. Thats insane u get all the DS set up and the tools! The key and petcock for the bigger fuel tank is big upgrade from last year too. So hows the power, is it more than the TSE? And does the 300 rev out? Or is the power in the lower rpms?
If you were going back to Utah next week to ride again would you take 300 four stroke or the 250 2 stroke if you only had one to choose from.? And why would you choose that bike?
Oh my gosh that is the million dollar question! Too early to tell! I’ll do a comparison vid eventually, but man either one would be good because I rode both last time I was there.
Who's? RMATVMC has the basics with sprockets, filters, brake pads etc and the GPX website has stuff, but their website kinda sucks so I just call and order what I need.
I'll have to figure out how to do that...As far as 0-60 time I dunno, it's no crotch rocket but more of a torquey engine that loves to lug...it's a dirt bike so it's good for the dirt and not really a road racer.
Super happy you've shared you thoughts and experience with your gpx300 I got really excited when they started selling them because like you said in your video the 300 4 strokes are just awesome! And I was pondering on buying a new klx 300 because of the rugged reliability and if ya tune them in right and beef up suspension you've got a fun comfortable bike that with the 6 speed turns out to be a nice bike to plate and ride to and from the trails. But these gpx 300s seem to have much better suspension, billet parts, digital gauges, the rims look tough, and it's lighter than a klx I'm sure. And it comes with turn signals, mirrors ect.? Does it have a off-road title or MC title? I figured I could save a decent amount of money and maybe have a bike I am happier with than buying and building a klx 300.
Yes they come with all the dual sport goodies and the mso states motorcycle so you can register it for the road. Just for that I think it gets a one up on the klx
@@LCARSADVtrails around me are pretty open but I plan to check out the atv trails michigan has to offer (there is alot) mix between street, open trails, and I'm sure some tight technical stuff. I'm leaning to the 300,subbed to keep myself updated.
How heavy are you? If you are pushing 200lbs+ the 450 might be the better choice. They will both be pretty good for most things though. The 450 should last longer because it will spend more time at lower rpms. Are you a beginner? The smaller motor would be better for learning.
I mean its not totally a copy, some of the frame is similar and the plastics do match, but that's where it ends. Their engines are their own and suspension etc. Very capable bikes for far less, but if you're a racer, you're obviously going for the KTM anyways and so would I. I would say these are the working man bikes that everyone left behind.
I follow GPX since the beginning. My choice was the TSE 250R, to replace my 2005 kdx 220R. Looking to import to Canada, but now there some import guys. Price they ask is on the higher side. I can’t wait your review to compare both...
Nice review but that tool kit I absolute hate 12 point it should come with 6 point wrench's after all I'm sure this bike has with nothing but 6 point nuts and bolts and it could used a Hydraulic Clutch and OMG that Front Brake Line look a to a bit to weak which seem need a stiffer thicker plastic housing so that follow the front shock travel in line to bad the dash doesn't have water temp gauge and not a fan of those type of brush guard and plastic skid plate
Thanks! The tool kit is honestly the best tool kit I have ever had come with a bike by far! My crf250l came with an Allen wrench. It’s actually the same tool kit that comes with a KTM! That’s it lol! The clutch pull is super smooth and easy, actually easier than a hydraulic if you ask me, but I suppose that is preference. Yeah I agree the front brake line needs to be stiffer and they are addressing that. I had to get some black pex to stiffen it. Not many enduro bikes if any have a water temp gauge, you could easily add one though.
It's a delphi fuel injection controller, as with any fuel injection it adjusts automatically to the environment. You could get a programmer and mess with it.
@@LCARSADV I am already a GPX Fan. But, being able to bolt a bike together, anywhere in America. And, have optimal performance. Has got to be a huge Plus... I am hoping you won't have to re-map unless you change components.
Got my 2021 TSE250R yesterday. I paid the extra $100 to have them assemble it. Totally worth it. Lights and blinkers installed. Pretty much ready to ride. Just have to add some fluids. Started right up and idled perfectly. I'm 6'2" and the ergos are great. Way better than my 95 KDX200 with bar risers. Definitely a fantastic value. Hope to take to the trails on Monday.
@@LCARSADV Completely assembled. Ready to ride basically. Just have to add some fluids. But already had a little of all them in the bike. Including a little bit of gas.
Look.around your house, how many things can you find made in Russia? My guess is zero! Now look around and see what's made in China 50% 75,% 90% ? How is your Chinese, better learn fast because your going to need it.
Love the thunder cats sticker. It actually looks factory. Maybe gpx should apply for trademark usage.
Ha ha yeah man, best cartoon ever!
Nice bike, but one thing I noticed is all the bikes today restrict the exhaust. I have another brand of Chinese bike and it's a 250cc 2 stroke. And the first thing I noticed was that after the expansion chamber it was choked down to a pipe that is only about 1" in diameter and that is the out side. In fact I just check it with my Calipers and it is 1.09 inches. Now if you look back at older bikes they were about an 1.5 size or greater. So why is it that manufacturer are choking off these bikes? Even my cheap Appollo the exhaust system seem small. And if you bike can't get the exhaust out it can't take anything in. If it is restricted then the exhaust from one stroke can't get out fully then it has to try and burn the next stroke with carbon from the first stroke still in there. That ruins the performance of you engine. And in another video I saw on here, I believe you can find it if you type in "Rebuilding the upper end of my KTM after 20 hours", but anyway there was a lot of carbon build up on that piston and a piece of the carbon build up dislodged and got into the piston rings and it no longer got a good seal with the cylinder and it acted like the rings were warn out. So when I get the money together I'm taking mine down to a fab shop that does mig and tig welding and replacing that pipe with an 1.5 ID piece of pipe. Just my thought on bikes today.
100% agree. That's government in action protecting you from yourself!
@@LCARSADV That is what I thought.
Thanks for making these videos. I love watching them and plan to grab a 300R as soon as I can.
Awesome! Keep us posted in the FB group! Thanks!
The work that goes into a business like GPX is amazing. Good customer service, important upgrades, parts support. It is hard for me to take a risk on a relatively unknown bike. It is good to hear that you recommend either one.
I was on the fence too, ended up shooting from the hip on it, and I’ll share how it goes. So far so good
I was in the same spot, it’s hard earned money that you don’t want to waste!
Wow! I'm very impressed.
I love your youtube name lol
@@LCARSADV Thanks!
I got my 450r set up this week, recorded a clip on my channel for those who wanna see it riding, nothing special. One thing I checked was bolts, I went through every bolt on the bike, I found a few bolts that were more loose than others from the factory, other than that I had no problems. I haven’t touched a motorcycle in almost 10 years and I was able to put the bike together, took me probably 8 hours with some frustrations but it’s possible! I love the new odo/tach. I’ll be waiting for some more videos!
Thanks I’ll check out your vid!
Does the engine flame-out easily or can you tractor slowly without it stalling?
Flame out were rare, and yes she tractors very nicely. Unfortunetly all modern FI 4 strokes suffer from flame outs, the worst one I rode was a Honda crf450l and holy crap that thing flamed out in really crappy situations, but the GPX was pretty solid. It's ocassional, and maybe it's fixed in 22's, but an AOF clutch helps that.
Closest dealer to me 300 miles
I might have to drive that far to buy my truck! I ordered both mine straight from gpx and probably would do so again as I had a good experience.
I am beginning to believe that the 300 is the holy grail displacement for both the 2 and 4 stroke.
Pros to both in different ways.
The scz forks are slightly different than last year's version. The rebound clickers can be done by hand now instead of needing a screwdriver.
I like them so far!
I recently started comparing the GPX 300r, klx 300 and the crf 300l. They are all priced around the same, within a few hundred bucks. This gpx really isnt that cheap when you compare it to these other bikes. When it comes down to pulling the trigger though I think the GPX has the best suspension, I just wish the enduro kit came on the bike and not just included with it. Waiting for the next shipment of these bikes to come in, already have a 300r on reserve.
How is the bike holding up reliability wise? It looks like a nice bike, but I don't know how the hold up to abuse.
The bikes is holding up great! Honestly these engines and frames are bulletproof. I beat the hell out of mine and she keeps asking for more. I know many people have reservations about the Chinese thing as I did too, but GPX is cut from a different cloth and I own 2 and I’m very happy.
I had a Husky TE310 and felt like power was still lacking. Wondering how it compares to one of those bikes. I think beta has hit the sweet spot with their 390.
This bike has some good pull to it. It can wheelie pretty good but not power wheelie easily from any rpm like a high performance engine, there is a trade off when you choose a bike with a high performance engine and that is rebuilds. This engine seems to have the best of both worlds. Strong pull and long maintenance intervals. I really do like this engine.
TE 310 race bike with lights! Apples and oranges. TE is a great bike! And its lighter than the GPX!
Thanks for the video! Everide in his review stated the 250R had an awkward position/placement for the ignition key. Did they update that too with the 300R or is it still in down on the side where it can be "accidentally" turned off during heavy riding?
Nope, Key is where it should be now! It's next to the dash where it belongs. They really did up their game in the update for 2020, and they did another upgrade 2020.5 where the changed the plastics to a more KTM style. I was impressed by the finish and attention to detail. Thanks for watching!
@@LCARSADV Thanks! Will be looking at the FSE 300R 2021.5 model on the GPX website.
You know Id be the first to comment LOL. Thats insane u get all the DS set up and the tools! The key and petcock for the bigger fuel tank is big upgrade from last year too. So hows the power, is it more than the TSE? And does the 300 rev out? Or is the power in the lower rpms?
I’ll follow up once I get some more miles on it
The GPX bikes are the best looking dirt bikes in the market imo. Honda maybe second but these bikes are sexy as hell.
Yeah I think they look pretty dang good! Although I think husqvarna takes the top spot lol!
If you were going back to Utah next week to ride again would you take 300 four stroke or the 250 2 stroke if you only had one to choose from.? And why would you choose that bike?
Oh my gosh that is the million dollar question! Too early to tell! I’ll do a comparison vid eventually, but man either one would be good because I rode both last time I was there.
@@LCARSADV I'll be waiting for the review.
Easy, the 4 stroke, so that you don't make the whole canyon/area mad at you.
Court normally I would agree with you, but the tse is probably quieter than the fse. The fse is loud!
Their parts lists is blank except for filters and a few other items on website
Who's? RMATVMC has the basics with sprockets, filters, brake pads etc and the GPX website has stuff, but their website kinda sucks so I just call and order what I need.
Can you put that thing on a scale and give me an actual wet weight? Everybody's got a different opinion. Also 0 to 60 time? Thank you
I'll have to figure out how to do that...As far as 0-60 time I dunno, it's no crotch rocket but more of a torquey engine that loves to lug...it's a dirt bike so it's good for the dirt and not really a road racer.
do these come with title? or offroad only? I saw the mirror in the background..
They come with an MSO that states "motorcycle" Both my GPX bikes a street legal in New York
Super happy you've shared you thoughts and experience with your gpx300 I got really excited when they started selling them because like you said in your video the 300 4 strokes are just awesome! And I was pondering on buying a new klx 300 because of the rugged reliability and if ya tune them in right and beef up suspension you've got a fun comfortable bike that with the 6 speed turns out to be a nice bike to plate and ride to and from the trails. But these gpx 300s seem to have much better suspension, billet parts, digital gauges, the rims look tough, and it's lighter than a klx I'm sure. And it comes with turn signals, mirrors ect.? Does it have a off-road title or MC title? I figured I could save a decent amount of money and maybe have a bike I am happier with than buying and building a klx 300.
Also don't mind working on my own bikes, me, my wife and my 12 year old son all ride so when something breaks I'm the wrench guy lol.
Yes they come with all the dual sport goodies and the mso states motorcycle so you can register it for the road. Just for that I think it gets a one up on the klx
@@LCARSADV awesome thanks for the reply! Looking forward to more videos!
I'm torn between the 300r and the 450. If the 2stroke would be amazing...if only I could order them all
Depends on what riding you do, the 450 would be a big engine on tight trails
@@LCARSADVtrails around me are pretty open but I plan to check out the atv trails michigan has to offer (there is alot) mix between street, open trails, and I'm sure some tight technical stuff. I'm leaning to the 300,subbed to keep myself updated.
How heavy are you? If you are pushing 200lbs+ the 450 might be the better choice. They will both be pretty good for most things though. The 450 should last longer because it will spend more time at lower rpms. Are you a beginner? The smaller motor would be better for learning.
@@court2379 185lbs. Not a beginner, lower amateur level I'd say. I have loved every bike I have rode so I'm sure I would like anything lol.
I can't believe they get away with selling a copy of the ktm / husky!!!
Although I wouldn't doubt they probably improved on the stock WP suspension!
I mean its not totally a copy, some of the frame is similar and the plastics do match, but that's where it ends. Their engines are their own and suspension etc. Very capable bikes for far less, but if you're a racer, you're obviously going for the KTM anyways and so would I. I would say these are the working man bikes that everyone left behind.
Very nice review. Look like VERY promising bike. Does it come with radiator fan?
Thanks and yes it does to my surprise!
I follow GPX since the beginning. My choice was the TSE 250R, to replace my 2005 kdx 220R. Looking to import to Canada, but now there some import guys. Price they ask is on the higher side. I can’t wait your review to compare both...
Nice review but that tool kit I absolute hate 12 point it should come with 6 point wrench's after all I'm sure this bike has with nothing but 6 point nuts and bolts and it could used a Hydraulic Clutch and OMG that Front Brake Line look a to a bit to weak which seem need a stiffer thicker plastic housing so that follow the front shock travel in line to bad the dash doesn't have water temp gauge and not a fan of those type of brush guard and plastic skid plate
Thanks! The tool kit is honestly the best tool kit I have ever had come with a bike by far! My crf250l came with an Allen wrench. It’s actually the same tool kit that comes with a KTM! That’s it lol! The clutch pull is super smooth and easy, actually easier than a hydraulic if you ask me, but I suppose that is preference. Yeah I agree the front brake line needs to be stiffer and they are addressing that. I had to get some black pex to stiffen it. Not many enduro bikes if any have a water temp gauge, you could easily add one though.
How are the Kickstarter and the electric start battery treating you?
I don’t think I’ve ever used the kick starter lol. But the electric start has always been solid
I can’t find a dealer! Went to dealer locator and chose a few locations nearest me and they said they didn’t carry them 🤷🏼♂️
I ordered both mine from GPX, had a great experience. Perhaps a phone call to them might help.
How are the engine vibes? Buzzy at redline?
I don’t think so, as it’s counterbalanced . She is geared low for dirt
Mind me asking how much was it?
5k
Ouch little to much for me lol
How much do you weigh with riding gear and how does the rear suspension feel?
175ish I haven't set sag yet, but it feels good to me
Does the fuel injection mean no re-jetting a new chinese bike?
It's a delphi fuel injection controller, as with any fuel injection it adjusts automatically to the environment. You could get a programmer and mess with it.
@@LCARSADV Thanks, that is my point. It would be nice to put a bike together. And not have carburation problems.
@@LCARSADV I am already a GPX Fan. But, being able to bolt a bike together, anywhere in America. And, have optimal performance. Has got to be a huge Plus... I am hoping you won't have to re-map unless you change components.
#thumbsup
Thanks bud!
Is this street legal in california?
Not sure about California but in NY it is. I would post that question in the GPX Facebook group.
@@LCARSADV thanks for responding i will try that. Really wanting one after your review seems amazing for the money
I think so. I wouldn’t have 2 if I didn’t think so
How often does the oil need to be changed on this bike?
The engine manual says every 2000
Got my 2021 TSE250R yesterday. I paid the extra $100 to have them assemble it. Totally worth it. Lights and blinkers installed. Pretty much ready to ride. Just have to add some fluids. Started right up and idled perfectly. I'm 6'2" and the ergos are great. Way better than my 95 KDX200 with bar risers. Definitely a fantastic value. Hope to take to the trails on Monday.
Glad you like it! Did the tse come mostly assembled?
@@LCARSADV Completely assembled. Ready to ride basically. Just have to add some fluids. But already had a little of all them in the bike. Including a little bit of gas.
thanks for the reply, but the comment went missing?. lol. UA-cam works in mysterious ways.
Yeah I’m gonna let the video sit for a bit and let UA-cam finish converting it to vp09 it was wayyyy pixelated
Look.around your house, how many things can you find made in Russia? My guess is zero! Now look around and see what's made in China 50% 75,% 90% ? How is your Chinese, better learn fast because your going to need it.
Probably, lol
The Chinese own Smithfield the largest pork producer in the United states! Buying up real estate in the US as well.
If you were to buy components for the engine, what is it a Yamaha clone 🤔?
The fse300/450 are zongshen engines which are their own design. The TSE is a retuned Yamaha dt230 engine
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Junk
Have you ridden one?
Does it come with a radiator fan?
The fse does yes!