I really like the Canadian treasure Hunter I told him last week he is about the hardest working scrapper on YT he scraps it all day and night goes at it. Idk if you watch him much but he got these sweet plastic bins on wheels I think they use for laundry in hotels I bet some would work great in your shop maybe have to upgrade the casters for heavy loads,check them out.
I'm regularly impressed by how much you know about disassembling things. Manufacturers should take heed to these videos and work towards ease of recycling. We have SO much to learn about cyclic resource management.
Read a book like 10years ago that talked about Cradle to Grave design. The should be manufacturing everything so that in the end it can be re used as much as possible since resourced are finite
Just got a call from one of my lighting contractors! Gonna have 500-600 parking lot heads and wall packs to pick up in the next couple months! Biggest job I’ve had yet! Hope they are lots of double copper! Some kind of contract with a warehouse management company with 20 locations across Nashville!
@@ProjectShopFl 35 out of 36 so far double copper ! Original ballast the Cooper lighting brand with the sharp extra paper if you saw the transformers you’d know right away double copper! 400 watt and a few 175. Hoping for some 1000 watters on the other loactions
The bonding wires that connect the led die to the metal frame (the contacts that get soldered to pcb) are made out of gold or a mix of gold / silver alloy. But we're talking super thin wires, like 0.02mm thick and maybe 1mm bit of wire. It's probably only worth it if you get a bucket of them, crush them into dust and then extract the metals. If you're curious Strange Parts posted a video 2 months ago titled "Inside the Most Famous Chinese LED Factory" where you can see how the leds are made and how big those wires are.
Small amounts of gold are used in a lot of electronic equipment, it’s a good conductor of electricity. Anytime I come across a electronic device I always look for it. 👀✌️
Deano here from Biloxi, MS USA. Thanks for answering my question on this video. I was the person asking about scrap losing its value every time you touch it.
If you want gold, it’s a slow game. Computers, servers, modems, routers, telecom, military and medical electronics are all good sources. But it takes a long time to build up enough gold bearing material to make it worth processing. And melting things down won’t do it. You’ll need multiple steps, including using mixtures of acid to break down the gold veering material, and more chemistry to then get the gold out of the acid. It’s a big process to learn safely, and LED lights would be the absolute bottom of the barrel for gold recovery, as the only have trace amounts of gold
The micro LED: The really shiny silver looking stuff may be silver. Put some household bleach like chlorox on it. If it turns black TA DA! ITS SILVER! LEDS have silver and gold but would take 100s or thousands to produce an ounce of gold. Fill a laundry basket sized box, put it up for sale, consignee prepays for shipping. That way someone in your community can do a challenge for UA-cam E waste refiners THEN WE would know for sure how much. PRETTY PLEASE? Do it as a 2024 challenge? If I had the money I'd ship the LEDS out myself. 💖 from MINNESOTA
Those are LED COB's (Chip on board LED) It just tiny LED on a circuite board, i use these all the time when i build lights. Allso its not any amounts of gold in the LED COB's. Gold pins, chips etc is the way to go.
There should be teeny-tiny gold wires connecting those tiny chips of silicon together inside the package. The rubbery bit is a phosphor gel. It's near impossible to extract effectively, but people do try. Electronics recyclers do take the boards in their entirety, but i have no idea if you can get enough for them to actually care.
Derek is that a Steel Dragon? I've seen most all your videos and never once saw the guards and I've never heard you mention the manufacturer of The Copper King's stripper.
Yea our local autozone does the $10 in store credit for the batteries. I think we can only take 4 or 5 per week. We just take and then when we need a part or oil change we usually have enough store credit to cover it.
Go to Ewaste Ben he is out of Australia. All his video are long detailed on what to depopulated from a board and what to not wast time on. He saves the gold in barrels till he retires then he will start that process but he is so informative.
Enjoyed the 1 hour video today. I have no idea how much gold is in those LED's but looks to be wafer thin. Prolly need a shit load of those to amount to anything. Have a good afternoon Derek. 👊✌
those LEDs miiight have gold in them; if they do it will be the tiny tiny wires that electrically connect the LED chip itself to everything else. you can't see them on the white LEDs since the yellow phosphor obscures it. at 5:20 or so that LED seems to be something other than white and the bond wires should be visible but you will need a magnifying glass to see it. the wires are finer than a hair generally. the LED chips themselves don't have anything too interesting in them, mainly gallium. I am not sure how you would recover that small amount of gold though. newer lights use direct-soldered LED chips ("flip chips") so they don't have the bond wires any more. the lights you're getting probably do have the wires however since they aren't brand new.
The only way I know of to effectively separate the metals from computer boards is use a hammermill and shaker table. You could separate is chemically (nitric acid), but that is very dangerous, expensive and time consuming. I think you would be better off collecting the boards and selling to someone who specializes in precious metal refining.
To Go After That Lil bit of gold u would need about 10 million of them to make u single gram if that so in my opinion not worth it.....but the ic chips and gold corner bga chips and fingers are what u keep.....also the only way you separate the diffrent metals is with acids ....don't work just by melting
Bin the boards they are useless. Melting them down wouldn't work anyway. You would need to use chemicals to refine any metals out of them but the gold would be negligible.
The gold in led chips are referred to and is applied as gold vapor. Can you imagine how little gold there is in there, and what it would take to separate. Don't bother.
@Project Shop FL last yr i personally took 2 pounds of just led scraps and took 4 days processing it in total i got almost no gold and 4 grams of silver worth under $4. for me that scraps not worth the cost in chemicals to do it
hey i just gotan idea for youfor copper pipe i know you dont get a lot but i do i was thinking along the lineyou start with a cylinder with deferent size for your pip you need to cut and as it turnsthe pipedrops downand gets cut again&again so what do you think about making something like that??????????????
In the newer style computers there is less and less gold because gold is to expensive they use alu and copper in stead of gold im sure there is no gold in a light i never seen a batch of led boards at my board buyer just send as alu
Unless you can get a 5 gallon bucket of gold plated stuff its not worth it. The cost of chemicals outweighs the price of gold recovery. You need A LOT of gold plate to make money. For example, a pickle jar filled with gold plated pins might net you 3 or 4 dollars in gold, with a chemical cost of 50 dollars. Save it or sell it, but small batch gold recovery isnt worth it.
Most of the gold scrappers use chemicals to recover it and to be honest you’d need tons of it to recover an ounce of gold so not really worth it. Just saying, but you may find a lad who buys boards or electrical guts and save the headache and get a few beer tokens
Man I have some braided wire each line of wire is 16 gauge. Is that still bare bright? Also what is the casing of bc considered? Like sheet or extruded? The videos are great.
No gold in those LEDs, they are the new type that are even more efficient and don't even require silver interconnects. Older types have very small amounts, but it only becomes economical at a huge scale. I am all about e-waste and microscrapping but I don't think it would be worth your time to sell them to anyone (if you could find a buyer), let alone try to process them yourself.
@@ProjectShopFl Your welcome....I was thinking the hole Time on the Stator Wrecker and the CopperKing. I think I could make it more usebel an Effizient.
Yes, there is gold in the LED's, Technically.. But you need pounds of them to get any measurable amount of gold out of them. You can't just throw them into a furnace and melt them, you'll never see any gold. There is probably a whisker of gold wire in each led, about 1/2mm long in each LED, about the thickness of a spiderweb filament. I've processed about a pound of LED's from Television sets once, and all I can say is I'll never do it again. You're better off just selling the lights as aluminum, and don't even mess with the LED's. It's really not worth your or anybody's eles's time
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For your operation and 99% of all scrapers on UA-cam it’s a complete waste of time to think there is any amount of gold that would be meaningful to extract profitably over your lifetime!
The process to recover that small amount of gold that you would get out of those LEDs, would involve using dangerous chemicals, let me get the cops to check you out worse yet the feds.
Not enough gold to cover the cost of the chemicals to recover it and it can take days to complete the process. Watch some of sreetips videos and he will show you the process and how little he can recover from gold in electronics parts. Burning it will do nothing. You have to use acids to extract the metals and then use more acids and chemicals to extract the gold from the other metals. Not worth it at all Derek.
@@turji if you are on a industrial scale maybe otherwise no I don’t believe you. I have seen the process to recover the gold and silver and it’s not easy, it’s very time consuming, and the amount of pure gold recovered is minuscule for a whole lot of effort, never mind the price of the chemicals and acids. You also need a good bit of equipment. Flasks, burners, vent hood, ect. Definitely wouldn’t be worth the time and effort alone much less the expense.
There is a small amount of gold and silver in the LED lights, but a very small amount. You have to have a lot saved up to get anything. The process is pretty cool to refine the gold but it can be dangerous with the acids needed. There are a lot of gold refiners on YT. There is a channel called Sreetips, if you are interested. Get that copper! PS, loved your vid on the gun confiscation and your multiple court dates. I'm happy to learn it turned out good for you. Fucking Government!
hey i useto work foa company calledmaklen berg and dunkam thay made the door james trim on cars and thetingsyouare choping on. md for sort. it was hotass hell where thay would send the melted alumium
I don't think that there's much gold in those LEDs if any at all. But there's copper and you'll have to get it out with acid's. Sreetips did it awhile ago. youtube.com/@sreetips?si=ZcOCNYL_nVtXlGed . But you'll gonna have to have a ton of product to make it worthwhile for the time and effort it takes to recover it. Excellent video as always. Keep up the amazing job 🤙🏾🙏
I really like the Canadian treasure Hunter I told him last week he is about the hardest working scrapper on YT he scraps it all day and night goes at it. Idk if you watch him much but he got these sweet plastic bins on wheels I think they use for laundry in hotels I bet some would work great in your shop maybe have to upgrade the casters for heavy loads,check them out.
I am subbed to him.
I'm regularly impressed by how much you know about disassembling things. Manufacturers should take heed to these videos and work towards ease of recycling. We have SO much to learn about cyclic resource management.
Read a book like 10years ago that talked about Cradle to Grave design. The should be manufacturing everything so that in the end it can be re used as much as possible since resourced are finite
Thank you.
@@jonbeaulieu8863 agreed some of these companies make it easy on the back end but a lot do not!
Just got a call from one of my lighting contractors! Gonna have 500-600 parking lot heads and wall packs to pick up in the next couple months! Biggest job I’ve had yet! Hope they are lots of double copper! Some kind of contract with a warehouse management company with 20 locations across Nashville!
That sounds awesome
@@ProjectShopFl 35 out of 36 so far double copper ! Original ballast the Cooper lighting brand with the sharp extra paper if you saw the transformers you’d know right away double copper! 400 watt and a few 175. Hoping for some 1000 watters on the other loactions
glad too see oliver back hes a good worker and the video was right on spot for all the ways you recycle things thanks for shareing and keep the faith
Thanks!
The bonding wires that connect the led die to the metal frame (the contacts that get soldered to pcb) are made out of gold or a mix of gold / silver alloy. But we're talking super thin wires, like 0.02mm thick and maybe 1mm bit of wire. It's probably only worth it if you get a bucket of them, crush them into dust and then extract the metals.
If you're curious Strange Parts posted a video 2 months ago titled "Inside the Most Famous Chinese LED Factory" where you can see how the leds are made and how big those wires are.
Thanks for the info
Small amounts of gold are used in a lot of electronic equipment, it’s a good conductor of electricity. Anytime I come across a electronic device I always look for it. 👀✌️
Thanks for the info
Deano here from Biloxi, MS USA. Thanks for answering my question on this video. I was the person asking about scrap losing its value every time you touch it.
Glad I can help. 👊
If you want gold, it’s a slow game. Computers, servers, modems, routers, telecom, military and medical electronics are all good sources. But it takes a long time to build up enough gold bearing material to make it worth processing. And melting things down won’t do it. You’ll need multiple steps, including using mixtures of acid to break down the gold veering material, and more chemistry to then get the gold out of the acid. It’s a big process to learn safely, and LED lights would be the absolute bottom of the barrel for gold recovery, as the only have trace amounts of gold
Thanks for the info!
I like the time lapse it makes you look busy 🤣
Thanks!
The micro LED: The really shiny silver looking stuff may be silver. Put some household bleach like chlorox on it. If it turns black TA DA! ITS SILVER! LEDS have silver and gold but would take 100s or thousands to produce an ounce of gold. Fill a laundry basket sized box, put it up for sale, consignee prepays for shipping. That way someone in your community can do a challenge for UA-cam E waste refiners THEN WE would know for sure how much. PRETTY PLEASE? Do it as a 2024 challenge? If I had the money I'd ship the LEDS out myself. 💖 from MINNESOTA
Thanks for the suggestion
Those are LED COB's (Chip on board LED) It just tiny LED on a circuite board, i use these all the time when i build lights. Allso its not any amounts of gold in the LED COB's. Gold pins, chips etc is the way to go.
Thanks for the info
Man that car chopping video was great,my little sister is a firefighter the guys at her station really got a kick out of it😅
That's awesome! 😂👊
There should be teeny-tiny gold wires connecting those tiny chips of silicon together inside the package. The rubbery bit is a phosphor gel. It's near impossible to extract effectively, but people do try. Electronics recyclers do take the boards in their entirety, but i have no idea if you can get enough for them to actually care.
Thanks I will just sell it with the aluminum
Derek is that a Steel Dragon? I've seen most all your videos and never once saw the guards and I've never heard you mention the manufacturer of The Copper King's stripper.
No it's some cheep Chinese made machine that I've had to repair and do a few mods.
Yea our local autozone does the $10 in store credit for the batteries. I think we can only take 4 or 5 per week. We just take and then when we need a part or oil change we usually have enough store credit to cover it.
Nice! 👍
Hell yeah a good ol scrappin vid for my Sunday afternoon
Hope you enjoy it! 👊
$10/battery sounds great to me. Up here in Pennsylvania I take mine directly to Deka and they're only paying $7.50 each
Wow.
Good day.
Everything Allright?
It's so quiet on the other side of the ocean.
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Yes thanks for checking up on me. 👊👍
Another fine scrapping video . Well done .
Thank you!
Ok Derek...time for another box to stand on.
Thanks for the suggestion
Yes, LED diodes contain gold. Gold is found in all brands of lamp components, in concentrations between 0.01% and 0.07%.
Thanks!
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Wow your shop looking clean now well done
I agree, but it also means that you have to get more stuff
😂😂😂 It don't last long.
Go to Ewaste Ben he is out of Australia. All his video are long detailed on what to depopulated from a board and what to not wast time on. He saves the gold in barrels till he retires then he will start that process but he is so informative.
Thanks for the info.
Great video my friend
Thanks!
ALL THAT GLASS! Has to be worth something to someone!
I wish I knew who.
Very interesting video great job
Thanks! 👍
Enjoyed the 1 hour video today. I have no idea how much gold is in those LED's but looks to be wafer thin. Prolly need a shit load of those to amount to anything. Have a good afternoon Derek. 👊✌
Thanks, I will be just selling them off.
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@@silverlicious2086 ok I will look for it. Thanks
those LEDs miiight have gold in them; if they do it will be the tiny tiny wires that electrically connect the LED chip itself to everything else. you can't see them on the white LEDs since the yellow phosphor obscures it. at 5:20 or so that LED seems to be something other than white and the bond wires should be visible but you will need a magnifying glass to see it. the wires are finer than a hair generally. the LED chips themselves don't have anything too interesting in them, mainly gallium. I am not sure how you would recover that small amount of gold though. newer lights use direct-soldered LED chips ("flip chips") so they don't have the bond wires any more. the lights you're getting probably do have the wires however since they aren't brand new.
Thanks for the info
ya man i dig that with the glass windows hey do the sam e thing with my glass but put it in whole then bust the shith out of it lol
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Save your time my brother. Those chips are not worth the effort. You are already cramped for time and too busy now!
Keep 'em coming dude
Thanks for the suggestion
The only way I know of to effectively separate the metals from computer boards is use a hammermill and shaker table. You could separate is chemically (nitric acid), but that is very dangerous, expensive and time consuming. I think you would be better off collecting the boards and selling to someone who specializes in precious metal refining.
Thanks for the suggestion
love it
Thanks!
Everyone got to love copper 😂
I know I do. lol
To Go After That Lil bit of gold u would need about 10 million of them to make u single gram if that so in my opinion not worth it.....but the ic chips and gold corner bga chips and fingers are what u keep.....also the only way you separate the diffrent metals is with acids ....don't work just by melting
Thanks for the info 👊
Bin the boards they are useless. Melting them down wouldn't work anyway. You would need to use chemicals to refine any metals out of them but the gold would be negligible.
Thanks for the info
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Philip Bender made a video of gold recovery on You Tube.
Thanks for the suggestion
The gold in led chips are referred to and is applied as gold vapor. Can you imagine how little gold there is in there, and what it would take to separate. Don't bother.
Thanks!
@Project Shop FL last yr i personally took 2 pounds of just led scraps and took 4 days processing it in total i got almost no gold and 4 grams of silver worth under $4. for me that scraps not worth the cost in chemicals to do it
Wow! Definitely not worth it.
I would at least try
Try what?
hey i just gotan idea for youfor copper pipe i know you dont get a lot but i do i was thinking along the lineyou start with a cylinder with deferent size for your pip you need to cut and as it turnsthe pipedrops downand gets cut again&again so what do you think about making something like that??????????????
Thanks for the suggestion
In the newer style computers there is less and less gold because gold is to expensive they use alu and copper in stead of gold im sure there is no gold in a light i never seen a batch of led boards at my board buyer just send as alu
Thanks for the suggestion
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You can't melt them down for the gold, will have ro be done with chemicals.
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There is good gold if you have lot
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Unless you can get a 5 gallon bucket of gold plated stuff its not worth it. The cost of chemicals outweighs the price of gold recovery.
You need A LOT of gold plate to make money. For example, a pickle jar filled with gold plated pins might net you 3 or 4 dollars in gold, with a chemical cost of 50 dollars.
Save it or sell it, but small batch gold recovery isnt worth it.
Thanks for the info
Most of the gold scrappers use chemicals to recover it and to be honest you’d need tons of it to recover an ounce of gold so not really worth it. Just saying, but you may find a lad who buys boards or electrical guts and save the headache and get a few beer tokens
Thanks for the suggestion
Man I have some braided wire each line of wire is 16 gauge. Is that still bare bright? Also what is the casing of bc considered? Like sheet or extruded? The videos are great.
Thanks, that should be fair bright and the bc should be like a clean sheet not extruded.
No gold in those LEDs, they are the new type that are even more efficient and don't even require silver interconnects. Older types have very small amounts, but it only becomes economical at a huge scale. I am all about e-waste and microscrapping but I don't think it would be worth your time to sell them to anyone (if you could find a buyer), let alone try to process them yourself.
That's what I was thinking.
I would sell it as e scrap like computer boards
Thanks for the suggestion
@@ProjectShopFl Your welcome....I was thinking the hole Time on the Stator Wrecker and the CopperKing.
I think I could make it more usebel an Effizient.
It's not gold is gallium
Thanks for the info.
Yes, there is gold in the LED's, Technically.. But you need pounds of them to get any measurable amount of gold out of them. You can't just throw them into a furnace and melt them, you'll never see any gold. There is probably a whisker of gold wire in each led, about 1/2mm long in each LED, about the thickness of a spiderweb filament. I've processed about a pound of LED's from Television sets once, and all I can say is I'll never do it again. You're better off just selling the lights as aluminum, and don't even mess with the LED's. It's really not worth your or anybody's eles's time
Thanks for the info
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Not everything that shine is gold. But here i am not sure. But never herd of gold in LED!
theres more silver then gold but theres def alil bit of gold in them
I've had lots of comments saying there is gold in LED's
@@ProjectShopFl I'm crossing fingers for you!! Never say never.
that copper you put in weigh bin was 15lb not 7
Thanks for the clarification
can u save me one of the double copper one what do u need from me to send me one
When I go to my mailbox I will send it.
@@ProjectShopFl ok thxs
He found there was more silver than gold best to sell it to someone who extracts it as a business
Thanks for the suggestion
or you could recycle them and save the gift card to buy the new alternator and starter for the powerstroke outback...lol
Thanks for the suggestion
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Ok I will.
Not worth it to save the led chips. It will clutter up your shop. Focus on bread and butter transformers etc.
Thanks for the suggestion
For your operation and 99% of all scrapers on UA-cam it’s a complete waste of time to think there is any amount of gold that would be meaningful to extract profitably over your lifetime!
Thanks for the info
The process to recover that small amount of gold that you would get out of those LEDs, would involve using dangerous chemicals, let me get the cops to check you out worse yet the feds.
Thanks for the info
Not enough gold to cover the cost of the chemicals to recover it and it can take days to complete the process. Watch some of sreetips videos and he will show you the process and how little he can recover from gold in electronics parts. Burning it will do nothing. You have to use acids to extract the metals and then use more acids and chemicals to extract the gold from the other metals. Not worth it at all Derek.
It can be. Trust me.
@@turji if you are on a industrial scale maybe otherwise no I don’t believe you. I have seen the process to recover the gold and silver and it’s not easy, it’s very time consuming, and the amount of pure gold recovered is minuscule for a whole lot of effort, never mind the price of the chemicals and acids. You also need a good bit of equipment. Flasks, burners, vent hood, ect. Definitely wouldn’t be worth the time and effort alone much less the expense.
Thanks for the info
There is a small amount of gold and silver in the LED lights, but a very small amount. You have to have a lot saved up to get anything. The process is pretty cool to refine the gold but it can be dangerous with the acids needed. There are a lot of gold refiners on YT. There is a channel called Sreetips, if you are interested. Get that copper! PS, loved your vid on the gun confiscation and your multiple court dates. I'm happy to learn it turned out good for you. Fucking Government!
Thanks for the info, and thanks for watching my other video.
hey i useto work foa company calledmaklen berg and dunkam thay made the door james trim on cars and thetingsyouare choping on. md for sort. it was hotass hell where thay would send the melted alumium
Thanks for sharing
I don't think that there's much gold in those LEDs if any at all. But there's copper and you'll have to get it out with acid's. Sreetips did it awhile ago. youtube.com/@sreetips?si=ZcOCNYL_nVtXlGed . But you'll gonna have to have a ton of product to make it worthwhile for the time and effort it takes to recover it. Excellent video as always. Keep up the amazing job 🤙🏾🙏
Thanks!