Thailand ordered 49 of them and while they did fulfill the order the tank arrived in such a horrendus condition that they have to order VT-4s to plug the gap. I'm pretty sure Thailand has more of these than Ukraine itself.
@@TrynaLift-zv5st Ukraine has regained substantial amounts of territory this year, while russia has failed miserably in every single counteroffensive they tried to mount. They've lost hundreds of officers and have resorted to conscripting prisoners into front line penal battalions with little or no training, and we can see from satellite imagery that they're pulling large numbers of T54s and T55s out of storage facilities. The only metric you could possibly be using to justify "winning" is that russia is still hanging onto the halves of 4 provinces by their fingernails. At the start of the war, russia claimed it would take all of Ukraine including Kyiv, then it claimed it would take 4 eastern provinces, now it's looking like they can only manage to take halves of them. russia keeps moving the goalpost of what they consider "victory" in light of their frequent and seemingly endless failures. At this point, we wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine manages to liberate Crimea next year. So the real quesiton is: are you mad that russia is losing? lol
Fun fact. The Malyshev Factory that domestically made some of the parts of the T-84 MBT went Bankrupt in 2021. They also never paid there workers and are still in hot water for violating Workers Rights and Corruption of its owners like the Legendary Kharkiv Tank Factory in late 90s early 2000s. There's also a lot of scandal with Ukraine and its tanks. With there BTR-4 having such bad rep for the quality metal used on them.
Если точнее то БТР имел нормальную сталь, но ужасно сваренную. Ибо цех где раньше при СССР варили броню был закрыт уже, а люди уволены.. Вот сварные швы и трескались.
Its sad but this is Ukraine for you. I don't even know how they messed up maintaining the Legendary Kharkov Tank Factory which produces the T-80 MBT. Hence why they can only build a handful of T-84s unless its paid by a foreign power. They simply don't have the money due to the insane corruption inside.
To call the tank the best despite the fact that the country has never had enough capacity to produce it. This is the same as calling a tungsten core bullet the best bullet in the world.
That's one of the problems with this video. It shows a lot of bias towards ukraine putting a lot and too much emphasis on the best and better then Russian and western MBTs. I think it is very good but it will be like the t-14 armada. It's there but it's not getting produced it's probably the best in the world but no good way to test it because there's only so few that exist. I would say something like a t-90M is better because they are at least being produced and modernized.
@@thecringeinspector5636 that's normal. Just because your pro something doesn't mean you 100 percent agree with some actions and act all things are holy. Doubts are bound to be made
@@thecringeinspector5636 that's the point IF it existed, and IF it adhered to it's claims, it could have been the best tank in theory ( or at least one of the best). The point is that that tank was the EPITOME of the Soviet Tank development. There was always a current gen tank, and also some research and work done in advance for it's next gen improvement. So they had a current T80UD tank at the dissolution of the Soviet Union and they applied all of the available post Soviet advancements to it, and on top of that some better version western thermal sights etc. So that tank was literally the epitome of the Soviet Tank development, the best possible tank that the Soviet Union could have produce over it's 70 years of tank research and development, was released in that tank the T84 BM Oplot . So it's not like it came out of the blue or out of nothing. It had a solid Soviet basis behind it. And the tank in theory was good, however , as I've said in the beginning, if it had existed... It doesn't exist and Ukraine can't produce it without Russia (all of the previous production tanks were made together with Russian cooperation), and their official Russian parts replacement program for Oplot was supposed to be finished in 2025 ( I think that program was called "Bastion" if I'm not mistaken) and for obvious reasons we now know that it's not going to happen. So there's no point even discussing it. Ukraine has 4 of those tanks left. And they are basically only using 1 of them, and the rest 3 are there for spare parts. Cheers
@@1ndragunawan so the Oryx forced ukrainians to mandatory report losses to it? If it not on Oryx so nothing lost? :) Do you ever know that ukrainians are forbidden to report their losses to the media?
The most accurate part of this video is someone actually admitting to the corruption that Ukraine is suffering, from its government to its military production facilities. You never hear that from the western mainstream media outlets. I give props to Nick for bringing that up.
Yep. That's why the news sucks. You're not going to see 30min documentaries on pre-war Ukrainian corruption or even what led UP TO this war. You'll only hear whatever's politically expedient that they need people to hear. Ukraine needs our support, but it doesn't hurt to acknowledge that they had some serious issues prior to this war, some of which were contributing factors in russia starting the war in the first place. *ANY* post Soviet bloc nation that suffered economic stagnation while sitting on a stockpile of Soviet weapons had issues with corruption.
i am from ukraine. im strongly against current government, i can admit ukraine is in big corruption. the previous president poroschenko was leading us to join europe but then... yeah i really want my home land saved but with it being consumed from the outside and inside. i have very low hopes
@@mechanicalcrazy9590 A work colleague of mine from Ukraine told me that Selenskyj was not well liked before the war. I despise Putin and his cruel war, but also dislike Selenskyj. I think he also profits a lot from the war and it seems to me he likes his current position a bit too much. Long story short, I think I hate politicians in general. These people play with human lives like it's a game of chess.
@@koi_krapfen yes I agree but i think previous president poroschenko was really trying do the best for Ukraine. He did the first steps required to enter European union. And when he was president corrupt people idk like judges were actually a bit scared to corruptly judge
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 Turret tossing, can't reverse, shot traps, shit ERA even if it works, no CIWS, old as your mother, transmissions that break like glass, shit armor, to name but a few problems with the tanks Russia is using and i am not even going to mention how their tanks are maintained
@@havokvladimirovichstalinov Here we again with the jack-in-the-box nonsense The relatively safer ammo storage configuration of the Abrams is an advantage, however, it only works because the Abrams doesn't carry any dedicated HE/HE-frag rounds; such rounds are far more powerful than the canister and multi-purpose rounds used by the Abrams, but they are also a lot more explosive... ..The detonation of such rounds (not mere propellant cook-off) routinely obliterates the entire tank, and this is why the Abrams doesn't use this round. HE/HE-frag rounds are particularly useful against fortifications, but they cannot be contained by blast doors or blow-out panels.
Actually, the plant in Kharkov is not Ukrainian, but Soviet, since it was built by the whole union. And the chief designers of the T-34, Koshkin and Morozov, are Russians by nationality.
Тихо-тихо, это "не та" правда, им можно подавать нужную переписанную, а то сразу обозначат агентом Кремля. Я тут одному в чат рулетке вдалбливал, что ракетный крейсер "Украина" был однотипный с крейсором "Москва", они одного проекта, и ранее крейсер "Москва" именовался "Слава". Только в отличии от украницев русские прокачали "Славу", и он даже был на боевом дежурстве, а "Украина" по прежнему гниëт. Они даже не способны были его достойно утилизировать. С танками та же промывка у них, мол они сами создали уникальный танк с уникальным двигателем. И с самолëтом Мрия было тоже самое, который не индивидуально с нуля построили украинцы, а в конце существования СССР, его строило общество из республик. Upd: От украинцев в Мрие был только русскоязычный экипаж, который давал интервью, и краска биколор по борту.
lo he said the fucking funniest shit Quietly, quietly, this is the “wrong” truth, they can submit the necessary rewritten version, otherwise they will immediately be labeled an agent of the Kremlin. I was hammering home to someone in chat roulette that the missile cruiser "Ukraine" was the same type as the cruiser "Moscow", they were of the same design, and previously the cruiser "Moscow" was called "Slava". Only, unlike the Ukrainians, the Russians upgraded “Slava”, and it was even on combat duty, but “Ukraine” is still rotting. They were not even able to properly dispose of it. They have the same idea with tanks, saying they themselves created a unique tank with a unique engine. And it was the same with the Mriya plane, which was not built individually from scratch by Ukrainians, but at the end of the existence of the USSR, it was built by a society of republics. Upd: From the Ukrainians in Mriya there was only a Russian-speaking crew who gave interviews, and bicolor paint on board.@@snafu1635
Yeah, "soon". In your wet dream, vatnik. Aren't you bothered by the simple fact that your "fast and precise military operation" already lasts for more than 666 days with devastating losses in equipment and KIA, instead or week or two, like your Pootin promised in the beginning?
I’ve been watching since the very beginning. It was merely promising at the beginning, but now it’s really great. Awesome balance between ease of understanding for the casual viewers and the detail enough to capture attention of folks like me, who after watching a video move on to read about the main and all tangential topics on my own.
This video we spoke exclusively about the Ukraine tank, I tried to mention that its not involved in combat in the conflict there. I hope I haven't offended anyone. :)
@@mclukas44lol25 It's not in Ukraine, those are Leopard 2A4's. And as far as i'm aware none of those have been killed by another tank yet, only by mines and artillery
The tank doesn't do anyone any good if it's just hidden away in a hanger or a drawing board. Still, would love to see this tank featured in a game in the future (Gaijin when?)
@@rajaydon1893gotta love the angle wedge Armor style turret, and as utilitarian as the add on ERA bag on the side, I like it compared to a tank glued with explosive block of bricks all over
Not isolated ammo is a big issue. Really big. That's why it rather would be worse than M1 in terms of protection and, because of more versatile gun with rather better ammunition - fire power.
@@aaroncruz9181 tanks are mostly harmed by mines and artillery, once immobilized it is more likely to hit the ammo rack. When ammo is fully isolated it is more likely to save the crew (or at least some of them), because trained crew is worthy much more than a tank itself.
@@danylokosmyna7115 drones are successfully used mostly on immobilized machines. There is a lot of movies shoving the fpv drone chasing some running tank, but even if machine would be hit in the ammo rack, the explosion will be directed by explosion flaps and the crew will be safe (at least from that, when they escape the vehicle they can be shot by a sniper or so on. The main thing here is to limit the most dangerous situations for the crew. There are, of course, some scenarios that fpv drone would destroy any tank, the crew can, for example, keep hatches opened or there can be other factors. That's why comparing just machines is discussable, because what fights is the system, the battlefield is far away from the popular tank games and tank battles are in fact quite rare.
Also please explain to the westerners that it is KiEv not KIIIIIV! I am Bulgarian and it totally makes me sick how they distort the historical names to make them more easily pronounceable in English...
@@Veselinius_III EASILY. THE WORD "KIEV" WILL WORK BETTER IF YOU PRONOUNCE IT AS TWO SEPARATE WORDS: "KI-EV. YOU CAN DO CUN🤪GUS BEFORE THAT TO PRACTICE ARTICULATION.
The only problem is not just corruption but the way the Ukrainian military industry was designed from the late Russian Empire and especially the early industrialization of the USSR. It was conceived to work as a part of the Soviet industry, once the Union disolved the supply chain broke and lots of the workers from other republics (mostly Russians) fleed back home. Imagine what would happen to the military industry in Texas if they became independent from the USA today, building an F-35 or anything similar would become impossible.
imagine Texas separates itself from US and Russia supports this starting from Lavrov giving cookies to separatists and then supplying long range weaponry, tanks and modern age fighters...oh wait
The ukraine we have today is a modern soviet creation, most of it - 1/2 is basically russians, communists promoted ukrainization but lets be honest if you can earn x2 more why would you stay.. It wasnt just that "russian experts left" and ukrainians are idiots who cant make anything, no .. Its that these people in these cities left to russia for jobs.. They went for better paying jobs and many took russian citizenship. Its why russia invaded they.. In their hubris though all the ukrainians would switch back to being russians just like that.. And to be honest if they invaded in 2014 and ukraines were suddrnly matched to russian wages 60% of ukrainians would have accepted it. Not saying russia invading is good... But its based on logic.. Russian land russia people ect should be easy right? Haha well didnt work out.. But "ukraine" is a communist creation. People in ukraine and western and southern russia have never been able to clearly tell eachother as seperate groups.. There is not a clear line "russian" and ukrainian.. Its more.. Somebody slowly feels more or less as you go further east or west. When russia did that shit in 2014 they lost many factories they had funded in the ukrain to make weapons, ukraine had even a russian ballistic missile factory gunded in denipro.. If it hadnt closed ukraine would have large numbers of rockets similar to iskandr.... And ukraine lost 1000snds of workers, scientists ect who just went to russia to live.
Recent update says Texas governors already running their own rules despite Biden's tantrum not to activate their national guard. If Texas border problems continue to 2025, imagining this scenario won't be an issue.
How many of these miracle weapons will “save Ukraine” only to be destroyed or have little effect, there was a lot of hype for the challenger and Abrams, but the Abrams got destroyed on its first day of combat
@@БогданГрещук-е5тSo? The T90 has been being used for 2 years now in a conventional war. The Abrams has rarely seen any conventional combat, and now when it did there is not so much hype about it anymore is there?
My guy, this thing is not the next best tank...This thing is a just a really good post soviet design (on concept and paper because the thing needs more battle testing and teething!) but even on that notion. This thing would only be great if it implemented some stuff from the Yatagan (The Nato variant intended for turkey like you mentioned with your video) with the bustle, Western *good* quality Fire control system and communications suite. Combining the Oplot-M and the Yatagan with the 120mm gun would make this a really great "Good enough" cheaper tank in comparison to it's contemporaries, but not the best...
@@Mykha_panda Оригинальное название именно Харьков, вы его зачем-то подстроили под произношение языка, который сами не используете. По итогу получится как с Астаной, ну или переходом под управление другого государства.
Didn't you say that in a contest this tank came in last place because of all the problems? Did they actually fix those problems? And how does the tank actually function after those fixes?
там була проблема з стібілізацією пушки, вона осцилювала без перестанку після траспортування і танк не попадав в цілі. На минулих змаганях був т-64 і в нього проблем не було ніяких, то ж то був випалковий брак.
exactly this type of reactive armor and so many layers of it is doing exceptionally well against apfsds rounds. really, you can easily check some videos or topics about it. btw and overall armour of t80 is not bad, really
Не совсем верно, динамическая защита очень полезна, например наша реликт. Но у танка Оплот большая проблема с динамической защитой Нож. Ее концепцию разработали ещё в конце СССР. Но признали опасной и слишком тяжелой для танков.Там вместо метательной пластины (или 2-3 как В реликте) Стоят небольшие кумулятивные заряды, как бы разрезающие гранату противника (от сюда и название нож). Но вся проблема в том что, это требует огромного количества взрывчатки. Особенно во лбу машины, ведь там стоит 2 слоя. При срабатывании есть шанс проломить бортовую броню. А так же, при попадании срабатывает огромный кусок такой брони. Что делает машину уязвимой. @@MoTuBaToPMoTuBaToPoBu4
the era works just fine against apfsds but the main issue with it is that each peice of era only works once but i think its cheaper than adding better armor
"I mean....sure it has that reactive armor.But i really don't think that it is able to do much against APFSDS and other kinetic penetrators" Actually, the Russian latest version T-90 ERA has in the last 2 years proven to be VERY effective against pretty much everything, including kinetic penetrators.
T-14 isn't mass produced since Russia the "strongest country on earth" accord to a 12-year old doesn't have the capacity to do it and it is not send to the frontline. If the tank is not in the frontline how would it be destroyed? Also M1 Abram isn't "invincible" and no tank is. It's a tank in active war zone ofc one of it gonna get destroyed some day.
It's basically a T-80UD with the copy of Object 187 turret(not T-90A turret), the only ukrainian there is a never really battleproofed nozh ERA and engine+transmission. It could perform good in war thunder thou.
"never lost before" yeah, but also 'never really used before' lol hard to lose something you don't even use the only one that was hit, was knocked out. Repaired? possibly, but hasn't seen the front since and it has been over a year
Russia is already having a hard time restarting the T-80 production. Though the Kharkov Tank Factory was the original one that manufactures the T-80. I highly doubt its capable of modernizing such an ancient factory.
See how Soviet (or improved Soviet) design and technology is praised. Russians have over the years improved on their own design (much like everyone else really) and technology but western media still call them "old" and have in fact equate "soviet designed" to mean antiquated, when in fact almost all weapons in most armies were designed in the 80s but improved upon. Be consistent for once
It's good on paper, but has a lot of issues with the 'soft' factors. Like the CITV blocking the commander's cupola, so he has terrible situational awareness without almost getting out of the tank, or relying entirely on cameras. Also, Duplet ERA is very heavy, so they had to remove armor to fit all of that ERA. If those blocks don't work as advertised, are damaged, or used up, then the tank had basically paper thin frontal armor. And of course throwbacks to soviet tank design like lever driver controls, explosive autoloader, tight intetior etc.
The t80 is basically a t64 but with a more powerful engine and incorporating suspension components of the T-72. Guess who designed the t64? Ukraine did The t84 is based on the t80ud Who designed the t80ud? Ukraine did. The other series of tanks made by Russia the t72 which the t90 is based on the T-72 was often used to equip infantry battalions due to its versatility and relatively simpler design, while the more advanced T-64 was typically assigned to tank battalions. so if it looks similar its because the t80 is like the grandad of the t84, and the t84 is the son of the t80UD
This tank is JUST A T-64 with a lot of additional things mounted on it from outside. A product of suffocated and agonizing russian engineering school left behind in degrading ukraine which lost every single part of vitality and perspective. The other fact is that this tank hasn't been destroyed because they literally do not have them anymore
In fact there are many more tank designs that had already demontrated such an amazing survivability in this conflict. The key factor here is to stay as far away from the frontlines as possible, it's also important to keep production figures low. Oplots maintain 700 km distance and that seems far enough. But there are more impressive numbers out there, french Leclercs, for example, operate as far as 2000 km away, to make sure that russians will never have a chance against them. However some designs are truly in the league of their own - EE-T1 Osório, just two of them produced and 11.000 km distance wins brazilian top spot in your survival rating!
NAFO bots in the comments: 'It survived a lancet drone attack so it's the best in the world' Yeah, 1.5kgs of explosives hit the tank treads of a _T-84_ , not a BM Oplot and it survived. That doesn't make it the best in the world, sorry NAFO bots.
@@rowaystarco Cost. And Iranian drones are cost efficient enough unlike US drones where the dim taxpayers love dropping cash into the Military Industry Complexes pockets without question. Are you envious that a simple drone like that, costing $30k, is shredding dozens of Western tanks? There's a channel called 'Morning Briefing' loads of great videos of Lancet drones ($30k) destroying $1.1m tanks (Leopards). Go look 😘😘🥰🥰🤗🤗
Dude, Ukrainian artillery very recently destroyed a 250 million USD russian radar system. With rocket munitions costing a fraction of it. The russian armed forces are an embarassement. Imagine going from the second most powerful army to struggling against one poor country. russian bots like you are reallly struggling now..@@reggiep75
Во первых у танка Т-90М уже закрыты все борта, низ переда и корма. Во вторых. У танка Оплот большая проблема с динамической защитой Нож. Ее концепцию разработали ещё в конце СССР. Но признали опасной и слишком тяжелой для танков.Там вместо метательной пластины (или 2-3 как В реликте) Стоят небольшие кумулятивные заряды, как бы разрезающие гранату противника (от сюда и название нож). Но вся проблема в том что, это требует огромного количества взрывчатки. Особенно во лбу машины, ведь там стоит 2 слоя. При срабатывании есть шанс проломить бортовую броню. А так же, при попадании срабатывает огромный кусок такой брони. Что делает машину уязвимой. Ну и главная проблема танка это качество, их не отправляют на фронт по простой причине. Все машины что работали 2 года назад. Уже нерабочие.
"Could this tank save Ukraine?" Nobody... nobody in the world can save Ukraine! It would be time to understand this and make peace, save lives! ---- Just as the age of battleships ended in World War II, so did the age of tanks in the Russian-Ukrainian War! ...to give way to drones!
It used to be the best tank in the world when it was made, but with production numbers lower than the Russias T14 armata, there's clearly a flaw in there somewhere.
T84 oplot M is like T14 armata they don't exist yet 2:41 when Soviet union collapse.The entire industrial supply chain is damaged because all components are not made in one place like western companies . but are distributed as quickly as possible to all regions and provinces. This results in high prices for transportation but evens out economic prosperity in all regions
@@1ndragunawan and once again - did you see that particular Oplot moving again after the Lancet, or are you just dreaming about it? Did anyone see that?
With Ukrainian probably not being your first language and the fact that you got it close enough for people to understand enough to correct you, I think you're doing ok.
@@YarIsGooberAt least armata is still in is prototype stage and saw little but some combat, and also unlike oplot the armata is an actual modern tank, not some modernized t80
@@aaroncruz9181But they did though... Ukraine was left with the USSRs Industrial Burwark yet everything they did got to pass a crap ton of red tape and corruption. The T-84 is no different hence the insanely low production numbers. You know the Legendary Kharkiv Tank Factory that used to produce the famous T-34 and soon the T-64 and T-80? Yeah well Ukraine was so corrupt even a factory of that size was left to rot and closed in early 2000s. The final nail on the coffin for the Oplot was the closing of the Malyshev Tank Factory a few years later due to also insane levels of corruption and workers violations. Killing it permanently.
Kharkov is one of the best plant/tank design bureau during the Soviet era, unfortunately because how broke the economy of Ukraine is I'm not surprised they can't afford their best tank
@@adillakandi.r On May 12, 2023, Defense Minister Reznikov drove an Oplot at a training ground in Kharkiv Oblast and subsequently announced that the Armed forces of Ukraine would order an unspecified number of Oplots. Obviously they now can afford to restart the production of the Oplot.
@@Henry_the_Eighth_ Ukraine has been buying a lot of combat vehicles from several countries using funds from the EU and the US, so now Ukraine has the money to restart production.
Absolutely right. All the cream ended up in Ukraine during the Soviet era. All general secretaries were from Ukraine: Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev. Therefore, Ukraine in the USSR lived for free. And when they separated, it became heroic... They got used to begging and stealing. Now let the entire European Union feed the freeloaders. Let's see how much is enough for Europe?
@@ФёдорПопович-й3т : Russia would be doing fine if it concentrated on developing a diversified economy and improved its public and social services. But right now, Russia is collapsing slowly inside. No single dramatic thing, but multiple systems breaking down outside the main cities - such as roads and transport, health and local government. The point of no return will likely be when the Federal government begins amalgamating ministries and divesting formerly federal decision-making roles down to regions - or forming autonomous government agencies in regions to do so.
Dear, where did you get such crap from? According to the rating, Russia has overtaken several European countries, including Germany and the UK@@HummelJaeger
Russia warned Ukraine that another betrayal would result in the loss of its statehood. Well, the West doesn’t understand what kind of viper it is protecting; it will soon regret it.@@HummelJaeger
Very far from the best, don't get me wrong it's not bad but i wouldn't call it better than it's Russian counterpart the T-80BVM in both passive and active abilities.
@@korana6308It still aint cause it is sluggish, heavy and outdated and also it doesn’t have good ammunition, a T90m or a Leopard will turn this thing into scrap metal
Dude, do you even know how insanely heavy the Duplet ERA is? Relict does the job and its smaller and super compact. The only positive is the -30Km/h reverse speed if its even real.
Ukraine/Russia conflict has changed the way we look at tanks. I find myself drawn to looking at the top of the tank now instead of the armor and reactive plates all around them. Drone warfare will forever change the way tanks are designed and made. Initially, I think they will look to technology to counter drones flying into them but from what we have seen in this conflict they will need to come up with some sort of change on the exterior of the tanks to stop even small drones from dropping an explosive on top of them. The way they have used small FPV drones along with larger kamikaze drones it will be interesting to see what tank designers come up with.
The tank does exist Thailand owns a good amount of them and Ukraine owns the rest they weren't mass-produced because of corruption in lack of funds and the start of the war happened and some of them went to Ukrainian military and the rest were exported to their buyers it is a pretty modernized version of the t80 I wouldn't say it is the best tank in the world I wouldn't say any tank is but it is a pretty well-rounded tank and a huge difference from the original
Why would there be corruption on tanks bought by Thailand? Then I hope the Government of Thailand has properly asked for there money back from the snakes in Kharkiv.
@@kittenastrophy5951 yeah I'm sure they use both the same round and there is a pretty big market for that type of round so they won't have problems getting the ammo and a lot of the parts that are modern Western technology shouldn't be hard to get if they know the right sources now the Soviet parts of the tank might be a little harder to get but still there is a vast amount of parts for anything from t62 to t80 probably because there is a lot of countries still using them
Autoloader was never a problem, wet rounds are. Idk why all these so-called experts are just parroting whatever they hear. This is why you see the wet rounds moved to the back instead of getting rid of the whole autoloader Also the oplot has the problem that all tanks must work within, production, cost, weight. Its too heavy for its theater, producing the era has a high defect rate (which is why era sticks with plates), its too expensive, the engine isnt exposed (aka the sprocket is easy to jam) etc etc. These are concessions tanks make for reasons.
Why do you guys keep saying that? there's literally nothing there to improve. Russian tanks are better. The only thing that you could potentially improve is electronics. But good luck copying that (impossible). But Russian tanks have superior design overall. Even more so, I feel like it will make another leap soon, which will leave any other world's tank design behind by many decades.
When did Russia get a "few" challenger 2's one is confirmed destroyed with another reported but not confirmed that's a possible two neither of which were secured by the Russians. But even if they had recovered both there isn't much to learn the electronics will have been destroyed and even if by some miracle some electronics did survive congrats you've got old systems not the current system's installed in Challenger 2's in British service good luck with that.
This is what I want to tell you, as a ukrainian. 1. We love our "Oplot", but we never considered it "the best in the world"! We considered it an adequate response to the tanks like russian T-90MC, but nothing more. 2. Our choice of the main battle tank of post-war Ukraine is NOT Oplot, and not Bulat. Our choise - KF-51 Panther.
Its made in the 90s. Its a response not to the T-90 model but to NATO demands as its supposed to be an export tank not for domestic use. No way its even comparable to the BVM and T-90M with Relict. Its more comparable to the T-80BV.
@@pilotmanpaul да? А мне почему мне говорили, что всрф использует ржавые танки без снарядов которые даже не заведутся. И по сравнению с Западной техникой просто груда металлолома. Как так вышло, а?
As a Ukrainian, I do not believe that Oplot is the future tank of our army. Some combination of "Oplot M" and "Scythe" can become them, but if we want a really new tank, we should finally take up the finishing work of the experimental "Nota". Because "Nota" is literally a tank of a new generation, which is undeniably better than any other modern tank. In addition, the peculiarity of its design allows for good protection of the tower from above.
The funny thing about Soviet production in Ukraine isn't just that the USSR chose to do it there, it's that the actual engineers and skilled workers were from there. Russia did and does have their own production around Yekaterinburg utilizing their own workforce, but the cutting edge was always in or from Ukraine. And so today we have tens of thousands of hours of historical programming on YT which examines the history of Russia specifically, including their previous colonial phases under the tsar and the Soviets, so why anyone would come to any other conclusion than "they're doing it again" and also actively deny that it is boggles my f*cking mind. The reasons are also just as clear.
those skilled engineers were Russians, Kharkov was Russian until 1922 where it was given to Ukraine, the engineers at Kharkov exclusively spoke Russian, a lot of them were Russian before Kharkov was given to Ukraine.
Are you some kind of idiot or nucklehead? This whole tank platform was initially developed in Kharkiv, Ukrainian SSR as T-64. Then russians in Tagil made T-72 out of it, by downgrading it to make it cheaper, simpler and as a result less capable. Same thing with T-80 and T-90 - they are versions of Kharkiv chassis.
If Gaijin added this thing in the Soviet tree then the bias would be even more incredible, the sheer reverse speed would be incomparable to every other T-64/72/80 variants.
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Oplot is a pretty good tank but calling it WORLDS BEST is just hilarious
There's a big mouthful of tongue-n-cheek in that title =P
It's only problem is the lack of improvements on the firepower departmnet, but that thing literally has better armor than western MBTs
Abrams ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 T-90M ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
protection wise it may actually be one of the best if not the best in the world (all round), cuz of the duplet era
Abrams eats 5 Oplot for breakfast.
Few of them made, with zero spare parts... A great post soviet design that hit the funding wall HARD.
Thailand ordered 49 of them and while they did fulfill the order the tank arrived in such a horrendus condition that they have to order VT-4s to plug the gap.
I'm pretty sure Thailand has more of these than Ukraine itself.
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@@agentorange9867 Mad that urkaine is loseing lil guy?
@@TrynaLift-zv5sttheir not just look at the casualties count for both sides or how much territory Ukraine has liberated.
@@TrynaLift-zv5st Ukraine has regained substantial amounts of territory this year, while russia has failed miserably in every single counteroffensive they tried to mount. They've lost hundreds of officers and have resorted to conscripting prisoners into front line penal battalions with little or no training, and we can see from satellite imagery that they're pulling large numbers of T54s and T55s out of storage facilities.
The only metric you could possibly be using to justify "winning" is that russia is still hanging onto the halves of 4 provinces by their fingernails.
At the start of the war, russia claimed it would take all of Ukraine including Kyiv, then it claimed it would take 4 eastern provinces, now it's looking like they can only manage to take halves of them. russia keeps moving the goalpost of what they consider "victory" in light of their frequent and seemingly endless failures.
At this point, we wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine manages to liberate Crimea next year.
So the real quesiton is: are you mad that russia is losing? lol
Fun fact. The Malyshev Factory that domestically made some of the parts of the T-84 MBT went Bankrupt in 2021. They also never paid there workers and are still in hot water for violating Workers Rights and Corruption of its owners like the Legendary Kharkiv Tank Factory in late 90s early 2000s.
There's also a lot of scandal with Ukraine and its tanks. With there BTR-4 having such bad rep for the quality metal used on them.
The war, doesn't let those news to be know... I haven't no ideia that happened.
Если точнее то БТР имел нормальную сталь, но ужасно сваренную. Ибо цех где раньше при СССР варили броню был закрыт уже, а люди уволены.. Вот сварные швы и трескались.
Corruption and greed. 😢
Its sad but this is Ukraine for you. I don't even know how they messed up maintaining the Legendary Kharkov Tank Factory which produces the T-80 MBT. Hence why they can only build a handful of T-84s unless its paid by a foreign power.
They simply don't have the money due to the insane corruption inside.
Germany is willing to pay for those corrupt f…s. They are even in the talks to build a rheinmetal factory over there 🚮
To call the tank the best despite the fact that the country has never had enough capacity to produce it.
This is the same as calling a tungsten core bullet the best bullet in the world.
Ikr
That's one of the problems with this video. It shows a lot of bias towards ukraine putting a lot and too much emphasis on the best and better then Russian and western MBTs. I think it is very good but it will be like the t-14 armada. It's there but it's not getting produced it's probably the best in the world but no good way to test it because there's only so few that exist. I would say something like a t-90M is better because they are at least being produced and modernized.
@@russian_boy1382 I'm very pro-Ukraine but even I'm pretty doubtful of the T-84 being the best..
@@thecringeinspector5636 that's normal. Just because your pro something doesn't mean you 100 percent agree with some actions and act all things are holy. Doubts are bound to be made
@@thecringeinspector5636 that's the point IF it existed, and IF it adhered to it's claims, it could have been the best tank in theory ( or at least one of the best). The point is that that tank was the EPITOME of the Soviet Tank development. There was always a current gen tank, and also some research and work done in advance for it's next gen improvement. So they had a current T80UD tank at the dissolution of the Soviet Union and they applied all of the available post Soviet advancements to it, and on top of that some better version western thermal sights etc. So that tank was literally the epitome of the Soviet Tank development, the best possible tank that the Soviet Union could have produce over it's 70 years of tank research and development, was released in that tank the T84 BM Oplot . So it's not like it came out of the blue or out of nothing. It had a solid Soviet basis behind it. And the tank in theory was good, however , as I've said in the beginning, if it had existed... It doesn't exist and Ukraine can't produce it without Russia (all of the previous production tanks were made together with Russian cooperation), and their official Russian parts replacement program for Oplot was supposed to be finished in 2025 ( I think that program was called "Bastion" if I'm not mistaken) and for obvious reasons we now know that it's not going to happen. So there's no point even discussing it. Ukraine has 4 of those tanks left. And they are basically only using 1 of them, and the rest 3 are there for spare parts. Cheers
"Could this tank save Ukraine?"
I don't even have to watch a single second of the video to answer without slightest hesitation, a big fat NO.
It hasn't been destroyed, because it wasn't used for combat.
A Lancet literally hit one Oplot, and Russia didn't dare to show the aftermath.
t84's are currently deployed to the Frontline
@@chlu556 it's in the video, dude:
10:58
The Oplot has zero loss in the Oryx list of Ukrainian losses.
@@1ndragunawan so the Oryx forced ukrainians to mandatory report losses to it? If it not on Oryx so nothing lost? :)
Do you ever know that ukrainians are forbidden to report their losses to the media?
Oryx is not a source. And not even OSINT. It's just a gallery at this point.@@1ndragunawan
The most accurate part of this video is someone actually admitting to the corruption that Ukraine is suffering, from its government to its military production facilities. You never hear that from the western mainstream media outlets. I give props to Nick for bringing that up.
Yep. That's why the news sucks. You're not going to see 30min documentaries on pre-war Ukrainian corruption or even what led UP TO this war. You'll only hear whatever's politically expedient that they need people to hear.
Ukraine needs our support, but it doesn't hurt to acknowledge that they had some serious issues prior to this war, some of which were contributing factors in russia starting the war in the first place.
*ANY* post Soviet bloc nation that suffered economic stagnation while sitting on a stockpile of Soviet weapons had issues with corruption.
Yes you do hear it lol stop
i am from ukraine. im strongly against current government, i can admit ukraine is in big corruption. the previous president poroschenko was leading us to join europe but then... yeah i really want my home land saved but with it being consumed from the outside and inside. i have very low hopes
@@mechanicalcrazy9590 A work colleague of mine from Ukraine told me that Selenskyj was not well liked before the war. I despise Putin and his cruel war, but also dislike Selenskyj. I think he also profits a lot from the war and it seems to me he likes his current position a bit too much.
Long story short, I think I hate politicians in general. These people play with human lives like it's a game of chess.
@@koi_krapfen yes I agree but i think previous president poroschenko was really trying do the best for Ukraine. He did the first steps required to enter European union. And when he was president corrupt people idk like judges were actually a bit scared to corruptly judge
this tank might be powerful when manned by anime school girls.
Only if those girl have main character & power of friendship
"Worlds Best Tank" that hasnt even seen combat, meanwhile the Abrams has been pretty much everywhere for the last 40 years
But abrams sucks. Russian tanks doing way better in all regards to western tanks
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 has anyone told you of the "turret tossing challenge" that's going on in Ukraine for the past couple years?
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 youre right. Theyre much better at cosplaying a jack-in-the-box
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 Turret tossing, can't reverse, shot traps, shit ERA even if it works, no CIWS, old as your mother, transmissions that break like glass, shit armor, to name but a few problems with the tanks Russia is using and i am not even going to mention how their tanks are maintained
@@havokvladimirovichstalinov
Here we again with the jack-in-the-box nonsense
The relatively safer ammo storage configuration of the Abrams is an advantage, however, it only works because the Abrams doesn't carry any dedicated HE/HE-frag rounds; such rounds are far more powerful than the canister and multi-purpose rounds used by the Abrams, but they are also a lot more explosive...
..The detonation of such rounds (not mere propellant cook-off) routinely obliterates the entire tank, and this is why the Abrams doesn't use this round.
HE/HE-frag rounds are particularly useful against fortifications, but they cannot be contained by blast doors or blow-out panels.
Actually, the plant in Kharkov is not Ukrainian, but Soviet, since it was built by the whole union. And the chief designers of the T-34, Koshkin and Morozov, are Russians by nationality.
Тихо-тихо, это "не та" правда, им можно подавать нужную переписанную, а то сразу обозначат агентом Кремля.
Я тут одному в чат рулетке вдалбливал, что ракетный крейсер "Украина" был однотипный с крейсором "Москва", они одного проекта, и ранее крейсер "Москва" именовался "Слава". Только в отличии от украницев русские прокачали "Славу", и он даже был на боевом дежурстве, а "Украина" по прежнему гниëт. Они даже не способны были его достойно утилизировать.
С танками та же промывка у них, мол они сами создали уникальный танк с уникальным двигателем.
И с самолëтом Мрия было тоже самое, который не индивидуально с нуля построили украинцы, а в конце существования СССР, его строило общество из республик.
Upd: От украинцев в Мрие был только русскоязычный экипаж, который давал интервью, и краска биколор по борту.
@@Kit-jus speak english katzap
@@snafu1635 порвался псина
@@Kit-jus забей, им бесполезно объяснять
lo he said the fucking funniest shit Quietly, quietly, this is the “wrong” truth, they can submit the necessary rewritten version, otherwise they will immediately be labeled an agent of the Kremlin.
I was hammering home to someone in chat roulette that the missile cruiser "Ukraine" was the same type as the cruiser "Moscow", they were of the same design, and previously the cruiser "Moscow" was called "Slava". Only, unlike the Ukrainians, the Russians upgraded “Slava”, and it was even on combat duty, but “Ukraine” is still rotting. They were not even able to properly dispose of it.
They have the same idea with tanks, saying they themselves created a unique tank with a unique engine.
And it was the same with the Mriya plane, which was not built individually from scratch by Ukrainians, but at the end of the existence of the USSR, it was built by a society of republics. Upd: From the Ukrainians in Mriya there was only a Russian-speaking crew who gave interviews, and bicolor paint on board.@@snafu1635
6:22 Ah yes, the Panzerkampfwagen 84 Ausf
Oplot-M.
"there is no nazi-wehraboos in ukrainian military, i swear"
everything is fine with him, that’s all, but there are only 2 nuances
Soon the city will again be named KarkhOv
Не кiт, а кот)
Yeah, "soon". In your wet dream, vatnik.
Aren't you bothered by the simple fact that your "fast and precise military operation" already lasts for more than 666 days with devastating losses in equipment and KIA, instead or week or two, like your Pootin promised in the beginning?
Don’t cry Russian kid😁
I feel sorry for anyone that has not found this channel yet.
I can’t explain my sadness for them
I’ve been watching since the very beginning. It was merely promising at the beginning, but now it’s really great. Awesome balance between ease of understanding for the casual viewers and the detail enough to capture attention of folks like me, who after watching a video move on to read about the main and all tangential topics on my own.
Just found it, subbed, so there!
Glazing
I feel sorry for those who enjoy this propagandist nonsense
It's hard to find non biased channels nowadays
you mad its not horrible like the russian tanks?
This video we spoke exclusively about the Ukraine tank, I tried to mention that its not involved in combat in the conflict there. I hope I haven't offended anyone. :)
@@FoundAndExplained if you follow the line there is no problem mass media has done the convincing part the zeit geist is the result of the pr
@@FoundAndExplainedno need to care bout russian bots dude, every sane person not brainwashed by a bald kgb monkey knowes who is wrong.
There's no such thing as "world best tank"
Imo the Leopard 2A7V is currently the best
@@jorenbaplu5100 Ukrainian battlefields are saying otherwise
@@mclukas44lol25 It's not in Ukraine, those are Leopard 2A4's. And as far as i'm aware none of those have been killed by another tank yet, only by mines and artillery
@@mclukas44lol25find me a tank that wouldnt be killed by artillery...
@@tripwire3992 Oplot-M
The tank doesn't do anyone any good if it's just hidden away in a hanger or a drawing board. Still, would love to see this tank featured in a game in the future (Gaijin when?)
It's probably gonna get leaked to war thunder before it's even added 😂
armored warfare has it.
Best looking is debatable, sorry but the T-90M is a lot more sexier IMO
Leopard 2a7 and t90M are the 2 sexiest tanks ever made
@@rajaydon1893 This is the only opinion I agree with.
@@pilotmanpaul it wasn't just my opinion, it was just a fact
@@rajaydon1893gotta love the angle wedge Armor style turret, and as utilitarian as the add on ERA bag on the side, I like it compared to a tank glued with explosive block of bricks all over
LOL !! LOOK UP THE KF-51 THE BEST TANK EVER MADE AND UKRAINE WILL HAVE A FACTORY IN UKRAINE @@??
Not isolated ammo is a big issue. Really big. That's why it rather would be worse than M1 in terms of protection and, because of more versatile gun with rather better ammunition - fire power.
It still has to penetrate the armor to explode
If it bleeds, then it can be killed.
@@aaroncruz9181 tanks are mostly harmed by mines and artillery, once immobilized it is more likely to hit the ammo rack. When ammo is fully isolated it is more likely to save the crew (or at least some of them), because trained crew is worthy much more than a tank itself.
Yeah abrams has isolated ammo but ammo is unprotected as result 300$ fpv drone can take it out
@@danylokosmyna7115 drones are successfully used mostly on immobilized machines. There is a lot of movies shoving the fpv drone chasing some running tank, but even if machine would be hit in the ammo rack, the explosion will be directed by explosion flaps and the crew will be safe (at least from that, when they escape the vehicle they can be shot by a sniper or so on. The main thing here is to limit the most dangerous situations for the crew. There are, of course, some scenarios that fpv drone would destroy any tank, the crew can, for example, keep hatches opened or there can be other factors. That's why comparing just machines is discussable, because what fights is the system, the battlefield is far away from the popular tank games and tank battles are in fact quite rare.
@@srogamina
T-80U better than M1A1 Abrams
T-90M better than M1A2 Abrams SepV3
Nothing can save Ukraine
Every tank now a days need anti drone cage / electronics and anti mine rollers. If it dosent have those it’s fucked
"HAR'KOV" MUST BE PRONUCED CORRECTLY. I SAY THIS AS A CITIZEN OF KHARKOV.
Also please explain to the westerners that it is KiEv not KIIIIIV! I am Bulgarian and it totally makes me sick how they distort the historical names to make them more easily pronounceable in English...
Go away russian!
@@Veselinius_IIIgo away!
Dont be vatnik. Your destiny is to be citizen of Kharkiv. Forget about Kharkov, it's the past.
@@Veselinius_III EASILY. THE WORD "KIEV" WILL WORK BETTER IF YOU PRONOUNCE IT AS TWO SEPARATE WORDS: "KI-EV. YOU CAN DO CUN🤪GUS BEFORE THAT TO PRACTICE ARTICULATION.
The only problem is not just corruption but the way the Ukrainian military industry was designed from the late Russian Empire and especially the early industrialization of the USSR.
It was conceived to work as a part of the Soviet industry, once the Union disolved the supply chain broke and lots of the workers from other republics (mostly Russians) fleed back home.
Imagine what would happen to the military industry in Texas if they became independent from the USA today, building an F-35 or anything similar would become impossible.
imagine Texas separates itself from US and Russia supports this starting from Lavrov giving cookies to separatists and then supplying long range weaponry, tanks and modern age fighters...oh wait
The ukraine we have today is a modern soviet creation, most of it - 1/2 is basically russians, communists promoted ukrainization but lets be honest if you can earn x2 more why would you stay.. It wasnt just that "russian experts left" and ukrainians are idiots who cant make anything, no .. Its that these people in these cities left to russia for jobs.. They went for better paying jobs and many took russian citizenship.
Its why russia invaded they.. In their hubris though all the ukrainians would switch back to being russians just like that.. And to be honest if they invaded in 2014 and ukraines were suddrnly matched to russian wages 60% of ukrainians would have accepted it.
Not saying russia invading is good... But its based on logic.. Russian land russia people ect should be easy right? Haha well didnt work out..
But "ukraine" is a communist creation.
People in ukraine and western and southern russia have never been able to clearly tell eachother as seperate groups.. There is not a clear line "russian" and ukrainian.. Its more.. Somebody slowly feels more or less as you go further east or west.
When russia did that shit in 2014 they lost many factories they had funded in the ukrain to make weapons, ukraine had even a russian ballistic missile factory gunded in denipro.. If it hadnt closed ukraine would have large numbers of rockets similar to iskandr.... And ukraine lost 1000snds of workers, scientists ect who just went to russia to live.
Recent update says Texas governors already running their own rules despite Biden's tantrum not to activate their national guard. If Texas border problems continue to 2025, imagining this scenario won't be an issue.
How many of these miracle weapons will “save Ukraine” only to be destroyed or have little effect, there was a lot of hype for the challenger and Abrams, but the Abrams got destroyed on its first day of combat
What about many bursted t-90?)))
@@БогданГрещук-е5т but we still can see who move forward and taking cities
@@БогданГрещук-е5тSo? The T90 has been being used for 2 years now in a conventional war. The Abrams has rarely seen any conventional combat, and now when it did there is not so much hype about it anymore is there?
My guy, this thing is not the next best tank...This thing is a just a really good post soviet design (on concept and paper because the thing needs more battle testing and teething!) but even on that notion. This thing would only be great if it implemented some stuff from the Yatagan (The Nato variant intended for turkey like you mentioned with your video) with the bustle, Western *good* quality Fire control system and communications suite. Combining the Oplot-M and the Yatagan with the 120mm gun would make this a really great "Good enough" cheaper tank in comparison to it's contemporaries, but not the best...
you made the pronunciations almost perfectly right of the city Харків
Харьков*
@@ИгорьсуздальскийХарків!! 😒
Harkov nafo bot!
@@Mykha_panda Оригинальное название именно Харьков, вы его зачем-то подстроили под произношение языка, который сами не используете.
По итогу получится как с Астаной, ну или переходом под управление другого государства.
Ukraine doesn't produce any tanks at all. All facilities are destroyed 2 years ago.
The tank demonstrated in the video is USSR design.
"P r o p a g a n d a"
Not even 2 years ago. In the early 2000s, many of the Soviet factories left behind got destroyed by Corruption.
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What makes really hood tanks is a really good crew and combined arms training and support
Didn't you say that in a contest this tank came in last place because of all the problems? Did they actually fix those problems? And how does the tank actually function after those fixes?
They didn’t, these tanks basically don’t exist, you cannot solve a problem of a tank that literally doesn’t exist
там була проблема з стібілізацією пушки, вона осцилювала без перестанку після траспортування і танк не попадав в цілі. На минулих змаганях був т-64 і в нього проблем не було ніяких, то ж то був випалковий брак.
I mean....sure it has that reactive armor.But i really don't think that it is able to do much against APFSDS and other kinetic penetrators
exactly this type of reactive armor and so many layers of it is doing exceptionally well against apfsds rounds. really, you can easily check some videos or topics about it. btw and overall armour of t80 is not bad, really
Не совсем верно, динамическая защита очень полезна, например наша реликт. Но у танка Оплот большая проблема с динамической защитой Нож. Ее концепцию разработали ещё в конце СССР. Но признали опасной и слишком тяжелой для танков.Там вместо метательной пластины (или 2-3 как В реликте) Стоят небольшие кумулятивные заряды, как бы разрезающие гранату противника (от сюда и название нож). Но вся проблема в том что, это требует огромного количества взрывчатки. Особенно во лбу машины, ведь там стоит 2 слоя. При срабатывании есть шанс проломить бортовую броню. А так же, при попадании срабатывает огромный кусок такой брони. Что делает машину уязвимой. @@MoTuBaToPMoTuBaToPoBu4
the era works just fine against apfsds but the main issue with it is that each peice of era only works once but i think its cheaper than adding better armor
"I mean....sure it has that reactive armor.But i really don't think that it is able to do much against APFSDS and other kinetic penetrators"
Actually, the Russian latest version T-90 ERA has in the last 2 years proven to be VERY effective against pretty much everything, including kinetic penetrators.
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The only thing that could save Ukraine is the negotiating table and a reality check.
You can say it is Cursed... by Design.
T84 is garbage, worse autoloader than the T90. No projectiles and etc. Watch the Redeffect video for further explanation.
Doesn't even have access to any better rounds than the 3BM42 which is decades old while T-90Ms and T-80BVMs are using 3BM60 Svinets already.
@@pilotmanpaul yeah, and v-2 engine from 1930
Lmao yes
@@pilotmanpaul they can use the chinese DTC-10 rounds tho since the gun in t.84 is basically the same as ZTZ variants, but that is unlikely to happens
T-90 is also a garbage
I love your work and your team. Keep up the great work all, but do have the editors listen in as well, because ai move my ammo to for “safely”😜.
T-14 : 0 destroyed
Abrams: 1 destroyed
Russian tech wins again
T-14 : 10 destroyed MARCH 2022
Abrams: 1 destroyed
Russian tech LOSER again @??
T-14 isn't mass produced since Russia the "strongest country on earth" accord to a 12-year old doesn't have the capacity to do it and it is not send to the frontline.
If the tank is not in the frontline how would it be destroyed?
Also M1 Abram isn't "invincible" and no tank is. It's a tank in active war zone ofc one of it gonna get destroyed some day.
It's basically a T-80UD with the copy of Object 187 turret(not T-90A turret), the only ukrainian there is a never really battleproofed nozh ERA and engine+transmission. It could perform good in war thunder thou.
nozh ERA is battleproofed since it was made, lol
@ivanfylymonov5885 you are correct even that armor fits into a western tank like the leopard 2A4 which turns it to a Leopard 2A4V
No
@@danylokosmyna7115 че нет блять, если нож ставят на булаты, а они с 14 года на донбассе гоняют
"never lost before" yeah, but also 'never really used before' lol
hard to lose something you don't even use
the only one that was hit, was knocked out. Repaired? possibly, but hasn't seen the front since and it has been over a year
Make the fact it is propaganda less obvious pls
Make it less obvious that you have the literacy skills of a kindergartener pls
Short answer. No. Only negotiated peace will save Ukraine.
It has a bright future though, when Kharkov returns to the motherland , Russia will fund it's small series production.
Something tells me that Russia has no money for that either, and I don't see how it's gonna change any time soon.
Russia is already having a hard time restarting the T-80 production. Though the Kharkov Tank Factory was the original one that manufactures the T-80. I highly doubt its capable of modernizing such an ancient factory.
@@pilotmanpaulDidnt the Ural factories pump out 1800 T90M's in 3 weeks a few months ago? I remember western media commenting on it.
See how Soviet (or improved Soviet) design and technology is praised. Russians have over the years improved on their own design (much like everyone else really) and technology but western media still call them "old" and have in fact equate "soviet designed" to mean antiquated, when in fact almost all weapons in most armies were designed in the 80s but improved upon.
Be consistent for once
the gas turbines are used in the coldest parts of russian because they start well when cold
It’s actually called Kharkov or it will be call that again soon.
Ain't no way the worlds best tank could be made in Ukraine
It could be. Take the “nota” for example. It’s much better than any modern tank
@@gigabrothers6131Is it even real?
@@M65V19 it is, it’s build but project is cancelled
It's good on paper, but has a lot of issues with the 'soft' factors. Like the CITV blocking the commander's cupola, so he has terrible situational awareness without almost getting out of the tank, or relying entirely on cameras.
Also, Duplet ERA is very heavy, so they had to remove armor to fit all of that ERA. If those blocks don't work as advertised, are damaged, or used up, then the tank had basically paper thin frontal armor.
And of course throwbacks to soviet tank design like lever driver controls, explosive autoloader, tight intetior etc.
@@andrasbeke3012 it has no duplet. Thing about cupola is a previous object 477A
It looks awfully similar to a t80
What a suprise, when the entire t-84 bloodline is based on T-80UD
The t80 is basically a t64 but with a more powerful engine and incorporating suspension components of the T-72.
Guess who designed the t64? Ukraine did
The t84 is based on the t80ud
Who designed the t80ud?
Ukraine did.
The other series of tanks made by Russia the t72 which the t90 is based on
the T-72 was often used to equip infantry battalions due to its versatility and relatively simpler design, while the more advanced T-64 was typically assigned to tank battalions.
so if it looks similar its because the t80 is like the grandad of the t84, and the t84 is the son of the t80UD
@timverrecchia1654 And ? And nothing the whole reason why Oplot looks like t80 is because it's further development of that platform.
same tank
@@doktor7422my comment was aimed at the original comment not yours.
I have edited it now as I could see how it was confusing
ONLY USE LANCET BOY😎....
AND CORNET ATGM :)
Lancet highly unlikely cornet maybe
This tank is JUST A T-64 with a lot of additional things mounted on it from outside. A product of suffocated and agonizing russian engineering school left behind in degrading ukraine which lost every single part of vitality and perspective. The other fact is that this tank hasn't been destroyed because they literally do not have them anymore
man in these past few years we keep getting these videos with "best tank" &" game changer" alot ...
Lancet keeps humbling them 😅
Well turns out all those “wunderwaffe’s” are useless against early cold war artillery 😂😂😂😂😂😂
In fact there are many more tank designs that had already demontrated such an amazing survivability in this conflict. The key factor here is to stay as far away from the frontlines as possible, it's also important to keep production figures low. Oplots maintain 700 km distance and that seems far enough. But there are more impressive numbers out there, french Leclercs, for example, operate as far as 2000 km away, to make sure that russians will never have a chance against them. However some designs are truly in the league of their own - EE-T1 Osório, just two of them produced and 11.000 km distance wins brazilian top spot in your survival rating!
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"best tank in conflict because it hasn't been destroyed yet" my guy it hasn't even been deployed on the frontlines
So you didn't watch the video...
A tanks best defense is a trained crew utilizing proper tactics and commanders that do not misuse them.
NAFO bots in the comments: 'It survived a lancet drone attack so it's the best in the world'
Yeah, 1.5kgs of explosives hit the tank treads of a _T-84_ , not a BM Oplot and it survived. That doesn't make it the best in the world, sorry NAFO bots.
T84 was amazing tank but corruption made it difficult for engineers
Do a video on the Russian Lancet drone. It's one hell of a tank destroyer drone and very cost efficient.
You mean the drone using American computer parts to function? If russia have so good drones, why are they relying on Iranian ones...
@@rowaystarco Cost. And Iranian drones are cost efficient enough unlike US drones where the dim taxpayers love dropping cash into the Military Industry Complexes pockets without question.
Are you envious that a simple drone like that, costing $30k, is shredding dozens of Western tanks?
There's a channel called 'Morning Briefing' loads of great videos of Lancet drones ($30k) destroying $1.1m tanks (Leopards).
Go look 😘😘🥰🥰🤗🤗
Dude, Ukrainian artillery very recently destroyed a 250 million USD russian radar system. With rocket munitions costing a fraction of it. The russian armed forces are an embarassement. Imagine going from the second most powerful army to struggling against one poor country. russian bots like you are reallly struggling now..@@reggiep75
@@rowaystarco bruh, did you pull that infos right out of joe biden's ass, mate?
The cast turrets were made by Azovstal in Mariupol, not Russia. It's the Russians who switched to welded turrets as a result.
cast turrets were made in Omsk and UVZ. This technology isn't used anymore.
Во первых у танка Т-90М уже закрыты все борта, низ переда и корма.
Во вторых. У танка Оплот большая проблема с динамической защитой Нож. Ее концепцию разработали ещё в конце СССР. Но признали опасной и слишком тяжелой для танков.Там вместо метательной пластины (или 2-3 как В реликте) Стоят небольшие кумулятивные заряды, как бы разрезающие гранату противника (от сюда и название нож). Но вся проблема в том что, это требует огромного количества взрывчатки. Особенно во лбу машины, ведь там стоит 2 слоя. При срабатывании есть шанс проломить бортовую броню. А так же, при попадании срабатывает огромный кусок такой брони. Что делает машину уязвимой. Ну и главная проблема танка это качество, их не отправляют на фронт по простой причине. Все машины что работали 2 года назад. Уже нерабочие.
у них было 2 или 4 штуки всего. что-то они куда-то на экспорт сделали. агония умирающей промышленности
"Could this tank save Ukraine?" Nobody... nobody in the world can save Ukraine! It would be time to understand this and make peace, save lives!
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Just as the age of battleships ended in World War II, so did the age of tanks in the Russian-Ukrainian War! ...to give way to drones!
It used to be the best tank in the world when it was made, but with production numbers lower than the Russias T14 armata, there's clearly a flaw in there somewhere.
Nah there are 2 to 3 times more Oplots than t14's
@@danylokosmyna7115 This has to be a new kind of Cope, just like the Oplot itself.
@@cerkurkafelst7335 What are you talking about?
@@danylokosmyna7115 There are less than 10 Oplots, and you still suggests there are more of them than the T-14? Your numbers dont add up.
@@cerkurkafelst7335 Bruh Ukraine sold 50 of them to Thailand
2:52 - I really love this custom camouflage pattern
T84 oplot M is like T14 armata they don't exist yet
2:41 when Soviet union collapse.The entire industrial supply chain is damaged because all components are not made in one place like western companies .
but are distributed as quickly as possible to all regions and provinces. This results in high prices for transportation but evens out economic prosperity in all regions
they do somewhat "existed", but the tank doesn't look so complex , just upgrade version of t80 tank
T-14 at least was bald in a few dozens units. And it is new tank and not redesign of soviet era tank
The video showed a Lancet hit an Oplot, so the tank obviously exists and is operational.
@@1ndragunawan and once again - did you see that particular Oplot moving again after the Lancet, or are you just dreaming about it? Did anyone see that?
@@alexanderkharin7036 once again, did Russia prove that the Oplot was out of action?
The burden of proof is on the Russian side, not me.
😂😂
BM Oplot hasn’t been destroyed because it really didn’t exist
With Ukrainian probably not being your first language and the fact that you got it close enough for people to understand enough to correct you, I think you're doing ok.
With the present corruption that will be only a dream.
Ah yes. The best tank that doesn’t exist
Just like armata or any 4th gen tanks
@@YarIsGooberAt least armata is still in is prototype stage and saw little but some combat, and also unlike oplot the armata is an actual modern tank, not some modernized t80
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH so is using WW2 engine for you is modern?
@@YarIsGooberoh my god stfu about the engine it’s been proven to be completely different go back to watching lazer pig
@@YarIsGoober If lazerpig is your only source you shouldn't be talking, but sure.
Thank you for building this channel for the engineers behind every marvelous machinery, rather than politics and rivalry
There is no way that new best tank can be produced in my homecountry
Praise your people, they actually put effort to make good equipment than push money down their pockets.
@@aaroncruz9181But they did though... Ukraine was left with the USSRs Industrial Burwark yet everything they did got to pass a crap ton of red tape and corruption.
The T-84 is no different hence the insanely low production numbers.
You know the Legendary Kharkiv Tank Factory that used to produce the famous T-34 and soon the T-64 and T-80? Yeah well Ukraine was so corrupt even a factory of that size was left to rot and closed in early 2000s. The final nail on the coffin for the Oplot was the closing of the Malyshev Tank Factory a few years later due to also insane levels of corruption and workers violations. Killing it permanently.
Yeah, its round can't pen more than 700mm
I think the T-84m is a great example of a tank combining both Western and Eastern tank design and making something awesome
It's sacrcasm he is not serious with yhat title.
No, it couldn't.
Kharkov is one of the best plant/tank design bureau during the Soviet era, unfortunately because how broke the economy of Ukraine is I'm not surprised they can't afford their best tank
Uralvagonzavod?? .
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa I said one of the best so Uralvagonzavod obviously also belongs to that category
@@adillakandi.r On May 12, 2023, Defense Minister Reznikov drove an Oplot at a training ground in Kharkiv Oblast and subsequently announced that the Armed forces of Ukraine would order an unspecified number of Oplots.
Obviously they now can afford to restart the production of the Oplot.
@@1ndragunawanCan they though? Their economy is pretty mych in ruins, quite literally.
@@Henry_the_Eighth_ Ukraine has been buying a lot of combat vehicles from several countries using funds from the EU and the US, so now Ukraine has the money to restart production.
you poke a few people at the wrong spot lol, great vid
Absolutely right. All the cream ended up in Ukraine during the Soviet era. All general secretaries were from Ukraine: Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev. Therefore, Ukraine in the USSR lived for free. And when they separated, it became heroic... They got used to begging and stealing. Now let the entire European Union feed the freeloaders. Let's see how much is enough for Europe?
Europe knows it will receive a friendly neighbour and ally by helping Ukraine resist a brutal invasion.
How naive you guys are!! We will go to the end, we warned you. You've played too hard with your NATO. Are you tired of your full life?@@HummelJaeger
@@ФёдорПопович-й3т : Russia would be doing fine if it concentrated on developing a diversified economy and improved its public and social services.
But right now, Russia is collapsing slowly inside. No single dramatic thing, but multiple systems breaking down outside the main cities - such as roads and transport, health and local government. The point of no return will likely be when the Federal government begins amalgamating ministries and divesting formerly federal decision-making roles down to regions - or forming autonomous government agencies in regions to do so.
Dear, where did you get such crap from? According to the rating, Russia has overtaken several European countries, including Germany and the UK@@HummelJaeger
Russia warned Ukraine that another betrayal would result in the loss of its statehood. Well, the West doesn’t understand what kind of viper it is protecting; it will soon regret it.@@HummelJaeger
Nothing can save Ukraine lmao
The tank that broke down during parade hahahhaa its shit
that... applies as much to the invading orks called russians as it does to ukraine
@@user-et2dx5du7e"ooohh but Russia! but *Russia!"*
Wait what parade comrade😅
That tank is older than your parents, please respect the elderly(even though they're wrong sometimes).
T-14 broke on parade as well..
ukraine has a incredible 6 of them. russia has over double the armatas
Very far from the best, don't get me wrong it's not bad but i wouldn't call it better than it's Russian counterpart the T-80BVM in both passive and active abilities.
Bvm is sexy af and pretty mobile for a T series
Bvm is just an upgraded t-80bv
That REVERSE driving speed feature is really coming in handy now
It’s not the Tank, it’s the Driver.
Oplot is not new, nor it's great.
It's great if they were able to produce them and if it would work as promised and as intended. It's a good tank on paper.
@@korana6308It still aint cause it is sluggish, heavy and outdated and also it doesn’t have good ammunition, a T90m or a Leopard will turn this thing into scrap metal
Ukraine never got out of corruption
Propaganda warning
The T84 is pretty much everything the T90M should’ve been
A massively overweight tank plastered with fifteen tons of high-explosives? _That's_ what the T-90M should've been?
Fuck no 😂
Dude, do you even know how insanely heavy the Duplet ERA is? Relict does the job and its smaller and super compact.
The only positive is the -30Km/h reverse speed if its even real.
Naan mate stick with the t90m
T84 is heavy, sluggish, outdated and has seen zero to no combat
I dunno what you have to be smoking to think this is better than the T90m
А где он? Он участвовал в войне, или картон размок от дождя.
It's always going to be Kiev, Kharkov, etc; just like i'm never going to call Turkey "Turkiye". I don't care what local butthurt name changes they do.
It’s very very far from the worlds best tank.
During Euro tank trials it came last.
Ukraine/Russia conflict has changed the way we look at tanks.
I find myself drawn to looking at the top of the tank now instead of the armor and reactive plates all around them. Drone warfare will forever change the way tanks are designed and made.
Initially, I think they will look to technology to counter drones flying into them but from what we have seen in this conflict they will need to come up with some sort of change on the exterior of the tanks to stop even small drones from dropping an explosive on top of them. The way they have used small FPV drones along with larger kamikaze drones it will be interesting to see what tank designers come up with.
"next best" means 2nd place so it is still one of the better tanks.
The tank does exist Thailand owns a good amount of them and Ukraine owns the rest they weren't mass-produced because of corruption in lack of funds and the start of the war happened and some of them went to Ukrainian military and the rest were exported to their buyers it is a pretty modernized version of the t80 I wouldn't say it is the best tank in the world I wouldn't say any tank is but it is a pretty well-rounded tank and a huge difference from the original
Why would there be corruption on tanks bought by Thailand? Then I hope the Government of Thailand has properly asked for there money back from the snakes in Kharkiv.
Thailand has been frustratingly seeking the substitutable parts for years. I think at least the 125 mm round is common with its Chinese tank VT-4.
@@kittenastrophy5951 yeah I'm sure they use both the same round and there is a pretty big market for that type of round so they won't have problems getting the ammo and a lot of the parts that are modern Western technology shouldn't be hard to get if they know the right sources now the Soviet parts of the tank might be a little harder to get but still there is a vast amount of parts for anything from t62 to t80 probably because there is a lot of countries still using them
@@kittenastrophy5951 t-84 can use DTC 10 yes. it is same gun but with different name
Autoloader was never a problem, wet rounds are.
Idk why all these so-called experts are just parroting whatever they hear.
This is why you see the wet rounds moved to the back instead of getting rid of the whole autoloader
Also the oplot has the problem that all tanks must work within, production, cost, weight. Its too heavy for its theater, producing the era has a high defect rate (which is why era sticks with plates), its too expensive, the engine isnt exposed (aka the sprocket is easy to jam) etc etc. These are concessions tanks make for reasons.
Now that Russia has a few British Challenger tanks for evaluation they can improve on their existing T-90s or their Armata T-14s now
Aren’t they older challengers? Surely there t90s are better then that
Why do you guys keep saying that? there's literally nothing there to improve. Russian tanks are better. The only thing that you could potentially improve is electronics. But good luck copying that (impossible). But Russian tanks have superior design overall. Even more so, I feel like it will make another leap soon, which will leave any other world's tank design behind by many decades.
When did Russia get a "few" challenger 2's one is confirmed destroyed with another reported but not confirmed that's a possible two neither of which were secured by the Russians. But even if they had recovered both there isn't much to learn the electronics will have been destroyed and even if by some miracle some electronics did survive congrats you've got old systems not the current system's installed in Challenger 2's in British service good luck with that.
To be honest we need something newer then the Armored column they are loosing their importance
This is what I want to tell you, as a ukrainian.
1. We love our "Oplot", but we never considered it "the best in the world"! We considered it an adequate response to the tanks like russian T-90MC, but nothing more.
2. Our choice of the main battle tank of post-war Ukraine is NOT Oplot, and not Bulat. Our choise - KF-51 Panther.
уже не леопард, дожили
@@MariSad_Crying Леопарду скільки років? 40? Який це танк майбутнього?
@@ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш ну да ебать 2а6 на который пол укрии молились действительно древний танк
Its made in the 90s. Its a response not to the T-90 model but to NATO demands as its supposed to be an export tank not for domestic use.
No way its even comparable to the BVM and T-90M with Relict. Its more comparable to the T-80BV.
@@pilotmanpaul да? А мне почему мне говорили, что всрф использует ржавые танки без снарядов которые даже не заведутся. И по сравнению с Западной техникой просто груда металлолома. Как так вышло, а?
As a Ukrainian, I do not believe that Oplot is the future tank of our army. Some combination of "Oplot M" and "Scythe" can become them, but if we want a really new tank, we should finally take up the finishing work of the experimental "Nota". Because "Nota" is literally a tank of a new generation, which is undeniably better than any other modern tank. In addition, the peculiarity of its design allows for good protection of the tower from above.
The funny thing about Soviet production in Ukraine isn't just that the USSR chose to do it there, it's that the actual engineers and skilled workers were from there. Russia did and does have their own production around Yekaterinburg utilizing their own workforce, but the cutting edge was always in or from Ukraine. And so today we have tens of thousands of hours of historical programming on YT which examines the history of Russia specifically, including their previous colonial phases under the tsar and the Soviets, so why anyone would come to any other conclusion than "they're doing it again" and also actively deny that it is boggles my f*cking mind. The reasons are also just as clear.
those skilled engineers were Russians, Kharkov was Russian until 1922 where it was given to Ukraine, the engineers at Kharkov exclusively spoke Russian, a lot of them were Russian before Kharkov was given to Ukraine.
"A lot" is a quantity given by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about @@Voschane
They don’t just “build” them. Planning and testing is not done in Ukraine. They are mass produced in an Ukraine. Not designed and made in Ukraine.
ok Ivan @@jade7631
I don't like how the title has "best"...pretty subjective
It's all Russian don't matter if Ukraine makes it
Are you some kind of idiot or nucklehead? This whole tank platform was initially developed in Kharkiv, Ukrainian SSR as T-64. Then russians in Tagil made T-72 out of it, by downgrading it to make it cheaper, simpler and as a result less capable. Same thing with T-80 and T-90 - they are versions of Kharkiv chassis.
Just remember from Kharkiv to Odessa was Russian. So it was Russian design and manufacturing capability
Its actually "Soviet".
If it is "Russian land" then why is there such a strong national spirit (to Ukraine)?
If Gaijin added this thing in the Soviet tree then the bias would be even more incredible, the sheer reverse speed would be incomparable to every other T-64/72/80 variants.
But for some reason even ukraine have this most powerful tank in the world.. Ukraine keep on begging for weapons
They sold there factories.
Ukraine used to have nukes, nuclear bombers and 2 carriers. They had to give their nukes to Russia in the 90s in a US brokered deal
They have restarted the production of the T-84.
@@1ndragunawan they didn't.
They didn't have tank factories since 1990s
@@Игорьсуздальский so, the Thai army acquired 49 T-84 tanks in 2019 must have been just an imagination then?