Is this legitimate self-defense training against a potential attack, or is it the beginning of a worrying slide towards militia training and civil conflict in France? WATCH NEXT: Race and Terror in Charlottesville, Virginia | VICE News - bit.ly/2iakloI
VICE. Do a video of the people of Britain being attacked with acid in the street and the raping gangs. The far left need to see what radicals are doing to all of Europe and Sweden.
fugitive88888 what the fuck are you talking about? That video documents the problems about acid attacks and talks about what should be done. Stop talking bullshit
"Muh colonialism" Yeah, is always whitees dfault until there is nothing leftover to eat and youz starve to death in your communist 3rd world shithole. Example: Almolst all countries in post-colonial Africa. WIthout us, you even weren't albe to write with me online. BTW Wish the Internet was only for whites and eastern asians. It would be a so much better place...
@@peligraso well lets look at the two countries history with each other... might not be the same governments but still not a thing people are going to forget
@İlyas Furkan its also a shame. Because you guys make some pretty cool weapons. Germany and austria,also make some of the best weapons in the world. Its a shame that countries that have such a long tradition of weapons making and armaments. Deny the right to bear arms to their citizens.
Vice straight out tells you at the end yeah so what, there are going to be more terrorist attacks and you shouldn't have the right to do anything about it.. According to their own words France has at the very least 17,000 possible terrorists on there watch list. That's like the size of an entire large military division. One man in the group already survived a terrorist attack but we're going to try and portray YOU as lunatics for trying to learn how to save lives and defend yourself. As the government basically has zero control of the situation. Oh dear they're in the woods how sinister... Where else would you expect them to go for fire arms training? In the middle of the Paris streets? To bad the black guy showed up and ruined their plans to play the race card. Propaganda this blatant isn't very effective.
Looking at VICE vids of fighting in the Sahel (Africa), any town in most any state could defend itself from what these African national militaries can't handle. A county could defeat them.
Well, almost every swiss man gets this training in the "mandatory" army and gets a full auto Sig 550 to keep at home...I don't see any problem in this, it's always useful to be trained in survival and self defense.
hates Turkey too presenting us like arab countries presenting like we force religion in our country presenting us like we cut hands and fuck 8 wives im muslim myself i dont give a single fuck about extremists killing people but when there is no way like no way you can put arabs and Turkey under the same category
And again vice talking shit about gun ownership. What a surprise. I just can't understand why firearms training is so controversial. It's been proven time and time again neither the police or the gov in general can help you. Why would you put your life in anyone else's hands is something I just can't comprehend.
fleepsman1234 I agree with you there, I believe that everyone should have the right to be armed regardless of race, gender, age or political affiliation. I myself am a far left anarchist and I never understand why other leftists are so anti-gun
Why is defending yourself seen as wrong? If human history proves anything it is that we are capable of being really fucked up to eachother. I don't understand what sheltered upbringing someone must have to believe they have some kind of invisible shield around them but a perfect world does not exist. Also, most people I see commenting are not from France. They are Americans who know nothing beyond their art covered downtown studio apartments and coffee shop next door. There is nothing wrong with that way of living, but it gives you a perspective of the world that a gerbil in a living room has of the moon.
Nick Bloom Yes but was is the realistic chance of getting killed in a terrorist attack very low to be completely honest it's more dangerous to ride around in a car. But I still do believe that people have the right to defend themselves just that their goal in mind isn't really a reality
That is definitely true, the odds of being a victim to terrorism is incredibly low compared to most other statistical probabilities for bodily harm or death. The only reason I cannot completely discredit the guys in the video is that I have never experienced what they are feeling right now (growing up where I do in the Northwest of America Grizzly Bears are about the only thing I have to be a little paranoid about haha). I have known many good friends from all over the world who would tell me about growing up in their once completely peaceful homelands to suddenly being thrown into developing chaos that ultimately decimated their families and they ended up as refugees in America. I know for a fact that the guys in this video are far separated from the struggles of the people I am taking about (at least at the moment) but I have always wondered what that feeling must be like, I hope none of us ever have to find out that's for sure. Anyway, I certainly worry about what other ulterior motives may be under the surface of these guys, I am hoping that no reproductions of an Anders Breivik come about from this.
WHAT THE DEAL IS THAT THEY DONT SOCIALIZE AND MEET PEOPLE THEIR LIFE IS SO BORING THAT THEY INSULT A RELIGION ON INTERNET EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT THEY JUST BITCH ABOUT IT BEACUSE THEY DONT HAVE PROBLEMS TO BITCH ABOUT THEY ARE WEAK NOT TALKING ABOUT AMERICA MOSTLY EUROPEANS ARE LIKE THIS IF THEY MET PEOPLE AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR WAY OF LIVING AND HAVE PROBLEMS ON THEIR OWN A PROBLEM SMALL AS A FIGHT I SWEAR TO GOD AND THEY CANT EVEN HANDLE IT BUNCH OF MILKBOYS I SWEAR THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CANT SAY ANYTHING TO YOUR FACE AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR FEAR BUT THEY DONT HAVE THE *RIGHT* TO GENERALIZE MY COUNTRY INTO OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES BEACUSE WE ARE WAY DIFFRENT -Turkey citizen
Kunt Hircine You honestly don't believe that Islam has problems with it??? Come on it calls for the killing of non believers and a bunch of fucked up shit. This is not to say that other religions don't have their own problems but these extremist follow to closely and hurt others. Plus that guys own experience is obviously very traumatic to him
It isn't wrong to defend oneself, but this could lead to preemptively escalating violence. Just look at this Rob idiot above me. Many people fiddling the flames of racial violence, and Muslims are mostly visible ethnic minorities in countries like France.
I am Muslim. No people should be under threat of fear. If they are doing it for self defence, that is great. Everyone should be able to protect themselves. May the Almighty help us all!
+kezsyrpo zsuirad You know me? Poland is not a smart country. A lot of Polish people I know in Europe are smart and have a good heart, but the country is still a little backwards and primitive in their thinking. This is no attack on Polish people, they have been through a lot.
You might see them as "backwards" or "primitive", but they certainly look smarter that the rest of Europe when it comes to immigration and keeping their country safe. There is simply no way to deny this.
RexCroatorum You are exactly correct. The Poles are looking like a country that cares about its future, and is not caving to the politically correct genocide the rest of Europe is welcoming with open arms
Erock Stoenescu I couldn't care any less about France. They won't be missed by me. They've always been a moral shithole. " French Culture"... drunkards and whores....
I'm all for this. It's always the right answer to defend yourself from someone who is trying to kill you in return. It's just fare. I wish my fellow brothers across the sea the best. They're trying to make a difference at least.
He talks about a tourniquet while they show a pressure bandage? Hmm...this "camp" is a basic firearms course that my nieces can take on any weekend in the United States LOL
Maybe not the most professional, but atleast i respect them for trying to fight back.. And for the record, europeans don't have guns, mostly. So basic training here could be a big deal however i don't know how useful it is, considering they officially can't own guns
No no no this is a worrying escalation and terrifying ... oh wait I did the same training (but better and more accurate) in Boy Scouts. It's obvious the narrator has never fired a gun, he would shit his pants if he went to a firing range in USA.
fdqsfdsf fdqsfdsqf fdqsfdsf fdqsfdsqf don't be stupid, if it's between dying at the hands of a terrorist or going to jail for firing a gun, he can choose to shoot and live. I would suggest you stay away from America, we have firing ranges all over where people shoot guns. You might pee your pants when you see all those scary "right wingers" practicing their first amendment rights.
I love the French people. Their response to force is always radical. France is a country of revolution and these guy's are preparing for that reality. What a great video again Vice!
I could see something in that man's eyes that made me feel something special about "Joe"... like I could somehow tell that he had a deeper meaning / reason for being there... So, I wasn't surprised, but rather reassured when they said that he was a survivor of the "Bataclan" shooting. WHOA, that takes some serious gonads, not to mention a real will to overcome, pulling himself together and traveling to Poland to take part in this training (as it is obviously illegal / not possible in his home country of France). Good for you, Joe, you fill us all with hope and determination!!
And I'm sure you're an expert in pre-history. Oh wait it was different from tribe to tribe and there's no evidence suggesting that men were always the fighters and in fact we have several finds indicating that women hunted just as often.
Do you think that America is a white country? Check the history that white western European killed millions of Native American and you say that America should be one race one religion? 🤦♀ Wake up bro, you just a New Immigrant from poland
one advice for the channel, could you edit the subtitles better? idk how it forks, if you could write them yourselves it would be great.. since i sometimes watch you with volume very low when i'm at work or watching on my phone in public
+Atlanta Light US police act more militaristic than the French army. The US police have killed way more of its own citizens than any other developed nation.
Mendozer Most of those (70%) Are black on black gun violence and of those 90+% involve illegal fire arms illegal fire arms are more common then you think with 2 million in the UK ( Estimate by the House of commons)
You fucking idiots. Do you belive a murdered will buy a registered gun from the fucking gun shop to do a murder or a gang raid? Especially when there are psichology background checks and other registered files ? These guns are fucking bought on the black market probably imported from poorer countries especially like the ones from south and central america. They are bough through conctact members of gangs that have a certain relationship with the fake gun crafters. They are fake cause they are not created by a gun crafting company with a license number that register them. They are probably made in the back of a fucking backyard. Go fucking research about guns you fucking degenerated pink T-shirted fucks!
"Attracted by the perceived benefits of a homogeneous society" There it is right there. Vice can't ever admit there just might actually be real solid concrete benefits of homogeneous societies. Why are you so intent on destroying other peoples cultures and way of life? Get off your high horse and realize Multi culture doesn't work when it's force fed and shoved down the throats of people just to appease these corporate masters bottom line. It's a being used as a deliberate tool of these governments to create confusion and distractions away from all the plundering going on by these bank corps and thief politicians. They want constant conflict within so no one is ever strong enough to challenge them. On top of allowing them to clamp down on the people by creating such instability. They're just afraid now because people aren't buying it anymore and beginning to arm themselves.
Danny K European = race. Muslim = religion. My ideal immigration policy would be no religious people at all regardless if whether that's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu etc... And race shouldn't be taken into account but things such as qualifications and work sector should be
ZZ Dixon Christianity is equally as brain dead and evil as Islam imo. If educated and atheist Poles came over instead of Christian, uneducated and unwilling to integrate poles came over id be much happier
Alex I'm not just talking about Poland though am I. I don't believe ant religious people should be allowed into live in the UK. Individuals with a higher IQ help the economy here however unskilled labourers also come here to work. There are very skilled Poles and other nationalities which are great but there are many that aren't too. Yeah, the average Brit is completely moronic and stupid imo. WW2 has nothing to do with immigration in the 21st century btw 😂
franky Generalisations though. Many Muslims work hard as do many Poles. Many Muslims claim unnecessary benefits as do Poles and Brits. The welfare system needs a rework as to only help those actively looking for work and to take children away from those who have them just for council housing
Civilians should NOT have guns in terrorist situations. It just adds to the confusion. Police and other civilians may mistake the armed civilian for an attacker. Armed civilians can also get in the way of officials. Not to mention, even with training like shown in the video, armed civilians can make mistakes and end up accidentally hurting other civilians. It's just not a good idea.
What do you propose they just end up dead statistics? Civilians should be ARMED, but they should be SMART when deploying it, In an active shooter situation, its best for the good guy to only pull out his firearm, when he is only in IMMIDIATE DANGER, otherwise he could be MISTAKEN for a bad guy if he pulls it out, knowing something is going on, but many meters away from the action, that's the official advise anyway for those type of situations, this way by keeping it holstered until he needs it, he avoids being shot.
Crush Islam! Because we haven't already done so in destroying Islamic countries and knocked off 1.5 million lives in the last 20 years - men women and children! And fuck "'the other side of the story''. Because we were told that Saddam Hussein had ''weapons of mass destruction'' and tore open a new one in Iraq, afghanistan, libya, and currently - syria. Even though we came back empty handed - LIKE A BOSS!! And it's not like some people have a reason to believe that 9-11, the event that started it all, was an inside/outside job or anything, it's ALL conspiriacy theorists who simply are nut-jobs who're questioning the critical questions! NO! FUEL THE ARTIFICIAL TENSIONS AND THE CYCLE OF VENGENCE!! FUEL THE HATRED!! DIE AS A PAWN FOR MANUFACTURED LIES!! ALL HAIL DEFENCE AS OUR SWORD!!
At 14:00 it summarizes perfectly how human beings are. Black, White, Muslim, Jew, Christian,... take any human population and the fundamentalists of that population will describe their inner feelings in this way that he's describing. I actually love this guy for so many reasons because he's showing so much light on a fundamentalist thought process.
I commend dude for not even having a flinch after experiencing a shooting like the Batlaclan, none-the-less being a freshly to guns. Wait until you experience some shit like that or have death hit someone close to you or moreover what's hitting these people is knowing someone affected by that gnarly brutality. You can never-ever shake that feeling of realness: I know personally myself, brahs.
The feeling of security and confidence in one's ability to act in the face of terror is both priceless and worth more than all of the left's statistics and bitching detached from reality. Vive Le France, Long live Poland, and Long Live Europe.
Jack 650 i think after what antifa and the radicals the far left should be waking up to what's REALLY happening! Our liberal MSM will not show anything but they're FAKE news!! Thank you for this documentary! !
"Do you think everyone should carry a tourniquet?" More loaded questions. Oh how awful. Being trained to carry and use a life saving device in crisis. Even the mundane and sensible things in this video are framed to be seen as scary, crazy, or stupid.
For the terrorist survivor I get why he would do so such thing because he'll be forvever scarred. But for the other guys it seems more overboard considering they're more likely to die from many things than terrorism
if you lived in a country that has had like 5 isis attacks in a couple of years. you would be pretty silly if you wouldn't try to find a way to increase your ways of surviving if ever put in that kind of situation.
what are you saying? you first have to survive a terror attack to be in a position where it would be "justified" to learn self defense? Are you listening to yourself?
The chance these guys will be put in a situation where Rambo skills save the day are extremely slim to none, they're embracing a fantasy similar to cosplay. Getting involved in community outreach programs would be hundreds of times more effective in making their communities safer, but that would require doing grown up things and evolving.
Yuh but this actually its fucking usefull compared to all the fucking weebs and geeks dressing as fucking japanese characters. Gun shooting and phisical training helps you deal with stress way better. Gun shooting its not like in fucking movies where you pick a gun and shoot. There are actually lots of tehnical steps that you must follow sistematically, this leading to better discipline and patience towards the trainees personality. What does cosplay do ? Just makes you look like a fucking freak infront of the others watching TV.
Training to use a gun is a recreational activity. You will almost definatly never need to use it and the mere presence of a gun makes a houshold more dangerous. America didnt get its reputation for shootings and mass murder caused by large numbers of people owning guns. Just to be clear i dont support gun bans or restrictions on how many guns an individual is allowed to own however we need to place stronger restrictions on who is fit to own firearms and accually enforce those regulations.
@Three Nazis walk into a B.A.R. The victim in this video was buried under people during the attack, so this training wouldn't have made a difference, hence the silliness of it all. The problem is knuckleheads who gravitate towards guns and other types of combative training want to put these "skills" to use in the real world, and that's why they are a threat to civil society. And like the OP stated, working with the disenfranchised within your community is countless times more effective in combating terror, if that's your actual goal.
I'd feel safer if these guys were involved in a relations program with poor Muslim communities rather than militia training. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. #commonsense
@Three nazis walk into a B.A.R. The victim could've been a certified ninja and he still would've been stuck under those people, that's what makes the this macho BS so silly. However, doing non-glamorous things like getting involved in your community and reaching out to those ignored by society does make a difference. How many times does this need to be spelled out for you before it sinks in?
ChaineYt UA-cam En dehors de toutes les convictions politiques que l'on peut observer dans les commentaires, se défendre face à un danger réel n'est pas mauvais. Se défendre et défendre son pays est quelque chose d'honnorable, chose qui actuellement s'est totalement perdu en Europe.
Alors je nie pas que le risque de mourir d'un attentat est réel, mais bon quand on sait que on a plsu de chance de mourir d'une piqure d'abeille que d'un attentat, on peut se dire que ce truc est quand même une vaste blague
Ils ne s'entrainent pas à résister au terrorisme en fait vu que le port d'arme est proscrit chez nous. Ils anticipent une dégradation de la paix sociale et éventuellement des conflits armés.
Sur le long terme on s'en va vers une guerre civile en raison d'une dislocation de l'Etat-Nation et du sentiment de citoyenneté, cet exemple est comme la fissure d'une inévitable rupture bien plus profonde.
Maybe they don't want to leave their families and lives behind? but still, want to defend them selfs also on a side note what do you think starts terrorism in the first place WARS
Daniel They don't want to pretend to be brave... they only want to have a chance to protect themselves and their families against the threat of terrorism.
Bloody hell, the Polish teaching the French! If Britain taught them they would be the best fighting force on the planet, aside from the British, obviously. /s
Being trained for a possible scenario means is being prepared. If it could help you not become a victim, wouldn't it be worth spending a afternoon or weekend learning?
Keep fighting. I am French by ancestry and I hope you men and women can truly find a way to ignore your useless government and fight against those that they let in that would harm you.
How the hell would you defend yourself against a terrorist attack with a gun? They are people who attack knowing they might get killed, and besides, they do not exactly "tell you in advance that they will now shoot you". This is not a movie where the villain points at the hero and talks to him for 10 minutes.
Possibly, but there is also the possibility that he might have panicked. Self-defence is mostly fear management and when you get hit in a sudden terrorist attack, you might easily panic. There is also the possibility that he might have got shot the very second he would have pulled the gun on them. Besides, when a guy blows himself and others up or comes at you driving a car, a gun does dick. Also, there is the problem that I doubt these people on the training camp are not taught about the legal definitions of self-defence.
Just like in Barcelona - shoot the f..cker thru wind shild and stop his ride on the ramblas 450 meters erlier ! No, better ! Just shoot him before he start accelerating on pedestrian walk !
Poland has taken more refugees and migrants than Germany. Not only we have the balls to discuss this topic on which statistics are in favour of our approach. We also have the balls to say simple verses like "There is no room for Islam in Poland, except for Ahmadiyya believers that live with us for over 400 years" And that's how it will stay. It's ridiculous that people spout bullshit about us being "anti-immigrant" when we take so many. We're anti-Muslim immigrant. That is quite precise. Islam is a backwater 3rd world ideology that has more fascism in it than Mein Kampf. We're not going to indulge such stupidity. Poland is a Christian country and we're not afraid nor has any guilt for anything in the past to use shame against us, people who want to work here and be Polish, live and work with us for the well being of our nation are always welcome here. Economic migrants from 3rd world countries that have violence, rape and lack of respect for human rights firmly rooted in their cultures, are not welcome and if it's necessary we will stand on our borders and repel them ourselves.
lmao polish people aint even european your language is fucking slavic and you guys get lynched by real white people in the UK. You guys are Btech white people hated just as much by western europe as muslims.
I wish VICE would share all the answers that they obviously have to the rest of the world on how to deal with counter terrorism. They seem to have it all figured out.
It's sad to see this problem growing worse and worse over the years
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We Swedes need this as well. But it is probably illegal to even get this training for Swedes and even more illegal to fight back against any type of aggression.
Why do I get the feeling that this vice document is leaning more to the left and has a subtle way of portraying the genuine concerns and how the way these people want to learn to defend themselves against a real genuine terrorist attack. How is there any other way to learn to defend oneself from a real threat involving terrorist using real guns killing innocent people? It's fucking obvious to say that the training would involve learning how to use a gun and doing it safely as possible. But it wasn't all about using guns it also was learning them how to use field dressings but as I suspected the emphasis was more about the weapon training. I would bet my life's savings that we only got shown a small percentage of what was filmed during the whole interview and its obvious it was more about labelling them more as a militia than a defensive purpose.
Was anyone else distracted by the fact that the participants were carrying and drawing their Glocks from condition 3 (AKA no round in the chamber). It was just irritating. The teacup grip was also distracting. Besides that, good on these guys for getting some training. HOWEVER, since France has heavy restrictions on guns, they would be better served spending more time with the medical portion than the shooting portion. This is particularly true since the medical portion can be useful in situations beyond terrorist shootings, like car accidents.
Poland and Hungary at least have learned thier lesson. The rest of the EU are just letting thier citizens be victimized with all thier pacifist laws and anti self defense laws.
I'm English and from a nanny state, I have only had the chance so far to Shoot firearms in the Land of the Free, where is that you may ask? America of course! and it was such a good feeling to be able to take part in this activity, I am glad that things like this are available for people to take part in around Europe now, I was under the impression that the British style of nanny state is mostly all around Europe.. but with one or two better circumstances such as pepper spray being legal to buy etc in certain European nations, this gives me hope for the future.. as we all need to be able to defend our selves from not only criminality, but the Jihadist threat potentially.
I'm German and I already have a tiny bit of experience with small arms. Sign me up for that training! A very good idea. It's sad that people have to go to Poland just to learn how to defend themselves.
Who said that it's always going to be a truck? And if it's a truck and it doesn't hit me, I can at least kill the driver. Should I rather cower in fear like the Muslims want us to? Besides, even trucks can be stopped. You just need some heavier weapons.
@Markus listen fella and answer me this, why aren't the white Germans informing on the nazis that still exist in your country?End of the day all groups have their radicals and extremists but the vast majority dont deserve discrimination because of it.
M1 Garand you're a backwards hillbillie and I choose to end our correspondence at this point or I'd be pissing in the wind, go and show your buddies how you won the argument. You have zero skills to debate properly.
Is this legitimate self-defense training against a potential attack, or is it the beginning of a worrying slide towards militia training and civil conflict in France?
WATCH NEXT: Race and Terror in Charlottesville, Virginia | VICE News - bit.ly/2iakloI
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João Lucas Nipon yes!!! We Must get prepared to defend ourselves!!
They want US dead!!
VICE. Do a video of the people of Britain being attacked with acid in the street and the raping gangs.
The far left need to see what radicals are doing to all of Europe and Sweden.
myname is love they have.
VICE this could raise conflicts between people with different views of Islam
According to vice acid throwing in London is a Victorian tradition
fugitive88888 what the fuck are you talking about? That video documents the problems about acid attacks and talks about what should be done. Stop talking bullshit
To these people, not saying the solution is to go after every Muslim is equal to endorsement, +damngoodfeeling. That's just where they're at.
So when did they say that?
"Muh colonialism" Yeah, is always whitees dfault until there is nothing leftover to eat and youz starve to death in your communist 3rd world shithole. Example: Almolst all countries in post-colonial Africa.
WIthout us, you even weren't albe to write with me online. BTW Wish the Internet was only for whites and eastern asians. It would be a so much better place...
AlexanderBogdanow Fuck off, no races are only entitled to the internet. No race is superior to another.
Poland is smart for not letting waves of people in.
no it s not trust me
@Rayyan Ali how is preparing for the worst discrimination against a group
@Rayyan Ali so defending yourself from a terrible evil person who is out to take as much life as possible is a bad thing?
if poland was smart, they would benefit more of being the neighbour of germany and produce more! but instead they keep on hating germany
@@peligraso well lets look at the two countries history with each other... might not be the same governments but still not a thing people are going to forget
I love how weird this seems to an American who can essentially practice these things whenever they want.
@İlyas Furkan its also a shame. Because you guys make some pretty cool weapons. Germany and austria,also make some of the best weapons in the world. Its a shame that countries that have such a long tradition of weapons making and armaments. Deny the right to bear arms to their citizens.
Vice straight out tells you at the end yeah so what, there are going to be more terrorist attacks and you shouldn't have the right to do anything about it.. According to their own words France has at the very least 17,000 possible terrorists on there watch list. That's like the size of an entire large military division. One man in the group already survived a terrorist attack but we're going to try and portray YOU as lunatics for trying to learn how to save lives and defend yourself. As the government basically has zero control of the situation. Oh dear they're in the woods how sinister... Where else would you expect them to go for fire arms training? In the middle of the Paris streets? To bad the black guy showed up and ruined their plans to play the race card. Propaganda this blatant isn't very effective.
Exactly. Well said.
It makes me appreciate our 2nd Amendment even more.
Looking at VICE vids of fighting in the Sahel (Africa), any town in most any state could defend itself from what these African national militaries can't handle. A county could defeat them.
Europe is waking up and will defend herself!
Siddhartha02 Yeah against right wing LARPers. You guys are annoying trash.
We stand together brother!Greetings from germany
@@hedgehog3180 LARPers in general 're annoying tras
Well, almost every swiss man gets this training in the "mandatory" army and gets a full auto Sig 550 to keep at home...I don't see any problem in this, it's always useful to be trained in survival and self defense.
That's a myth
What is a myth? If you are talking about the 550 mine is in a safe right next to me ;)
So you're Swiss?
Yeah, done my army training 2 years ago and I'm still active doing 1 month of service every year.
really ? the islamic state of Switzerland ?
Vice doesn't like Russia, doesn't like Hungary, doesn't like Poland, who do you like Vice?
hates Turkey too presenting us like arab countries presenting like we force religion in our country presenting us like we cut hands and fuck 8 wives im muslim myself i dont give a single fuck about extremists killing people but when there is no way like no way you can put arabs and Turkey under the same category
Vice are a bunch of muslim loving cuckold libtards.
San Francisco I bet lol
Vice like the Middle East and Mexico.
Christ you guys are so sensitive.
And again vice talking shit about gun ownership. What a surprise. I just can't understand why firearms training is so controversial. It's been proven time and time again neither the police or the gov in general can help you. Why would you put your life in anyone else's hands is something I just can't comprehend.
fleepsman1234 I agree with you there, I believe that everyone should have the right to be armed regardless of race, gender, age or political affiliation. I myself am a far left anarchist and I never understand why other leftists are so anti-gun
Why is defending yourself seen as wrong? If human history proves anything it is that we are capable of being really fucked up to eachother. I don't understand what sheltered upbringing someone must have to believe they have some kind of invisible shield around them but a perfect world does not exist.
Also, most people I see commenting are not from France. They are Americans who know nothing beyond their art covered downtown studio apartments and coffee shop next door. There is nothing wrong with that way of living, but it gives you a perspective of the world that a gerbil in a living room has of the moon.
Nick Bloom Yes but was is the realistic chance of getting killed in a terrorist attack very low to be completely honest it's more dangerous to ride around in a car. But I still do believe that people have the right to defend themselves just that their goal in mind isn't really a reality
That is definitely true, the odds of being a victim to terrorism is incredibly low compared to most other statistical probabilities for bodily harm or death. The only reason I cannot completely discredit the guys in the video is that I have never experienced what they are feeling right now (growing up where I do in the Northwest of America Grizzly Bears are about the only thing I have to be a little paranoid about haha). I have known many good friends from all over the world who would tell me about growing up in their once completely peaceful homelands to suddenly being thrown into developing chaos that ultimately decimated their families and they ended up as refugees in America. I know for a fact that the guys in this video are far separated from the struggles of the people I am taking about (at least at the moment) but I have always wondered what that feeling must be like, I hope none of us ever have to find out that's for sure. Anyway, I certainly worry about what other ulterior motives may be under the surface of these guys, I am hoping that no reproductions of an Anders Breivik come about from this.
WHAT THE DEAL IS THAT THEY DONT SOCIALIZE AND MEET PEOPLE THEIR LIFE IS SO BORING THAT THEY INSULT A RELIGION ON INTERNET EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT THEY JUST BITCH ABOUT IT BEACUSE THEY DONT HAVE PROBLEMS TO BITCH ABOUT THEY ARE WEAK NOT TALKING ABOUT AMERICA MOSTLY EUROPEANS ARE LIKE THIS IF THEY MET PEOPLE AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR WAY OF LIVING AND HAVE PROBLEMS ON THEIR OWN A PROBLEM SMALL AS A FIGHT I SWEAR TO GOD AND THEY CANT EVEN HANDLE IT BUNCH OF MILKBOYS I SWEAR THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CANT SAY ANYTHING TO YOUR FACE AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR FEAR BUT THEY DONT HAVE THE *RIGHT* TO GENERALIZE MY COUNTRY INTO OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES BEACUSE WE ARE WAY DIFFRENT -Turkey citizen
Kunt Hircine You honestly don't believe that Islam has problems with it??? Come on it calls for the killing of non believers and a bunch of fucked up shit. This is not to say that other religions don't have their own problems but these extremist follow to closely and hurt others. Plus that guys own experience is obviously very traumatic to him
It isn't wrong to defend oneself, but this could lead to preemptively escalating violence. Just look at this Rob idiot above me. Many people fiddling the flames of racial violence, and Muslims are mostly visible ethnic minorities in countries like France.
Poland has a great history of defending Europe. 1683, 1920, 1989. We stand tall.
Bart Karon are u gonna tell me about the winged honsars too? Give me a break.
winged what ?:D I hope your general education of the populace is better than yours. Holy shit.
Bart Karon well if Spain wouldn't had kicked the muslims, Europe would be a califat
Marcin Dobrowolski can't be as low as the average pole tho
アルコール nope
We in America call it the 2nd Amendment... Right to weapons to deal with a terrorist.
The Orlando terrorist had differing opinions I guess.
Also, he managed to get an assault rifle while on the terror watch list.
Right to be the country that has, by very far, the most gun related violence in the entirety of the developped countries.
z Haxeu Because there a bunch of nuts. Doesn't mean one nut has to ruin protection for others. Similiar to narcotics prescribed.
Atlanta Light you losers are a fucking joke all you need is good spanking
gun free zones are safe spaces for terrorists
I am Muslim. No people should be under threat of fear. If they are doing it for self defence, that is great. Everyone should be able to protect themselves. May the Almighty help us all!
Poland is a smart country
Noah Hoyt Quite the opposite if you've visited it.
+kezsyrpo zsuirad You know me? Poland is not a smart country. A lot of Polish people I know in Europe are smart and have a good heart, but the country is still a little backwards and primitive in their thinking. This is no attack on Polish people, they have been through a lot.
You might see them as "backwards" or "primitive", but they certainly look smarter that the rest of Europe when it comes to immigration and keeping their country safe. There is simply no way to deny this.
RexCroatorum
You are exactly correct. The Poles are looking like a country that cares about its future, and is not caving to the politically correct genocide the rest of Europe is welcoming with open arms
And what make the West so progressive and enlightened comparing to Poland?
Ah, the non biased reporting that we know and love from Vice .
RIP France you will be missed.
Somewhat
Still salty about LePen's loss at the elections ?
Erock Stoenescu I couldn't care any less about France. They won't be missed by me. They've always been a moral shithole. " French Culture"... drunkards and whores....
I'm all for this. It's always the right answer to defend yourself from someone who is trying to kill you in return. It's just fare. I wish my fellow brothers across the sea the best. They're trying to make a difference at least.
He talks about a tourniquet while they show a pressure bandage? Hmm...this "camp" is a basic firearms course that my nieces can take on any weekend in the United States LOL
or maybe vice doesnt know the difference and just showed the israeli bandage while they were talking. calm down tactical timmy.
Maybe not the most professional, but atleast i respect them for trying to fight back.. And for the record, europeans don't have guns, mostly. So basic training here could be a big deal however i don't know how useful it is, considering they officially can't own guns
That actually is a tourniquet he's holding there, you can see him turning the handle.
No no no this is a worrying escalation and terrifying ... oh wait I did the same training (but better and more accurate) in Boy Scouts. It's obvious the narrator has never fired a gun, he would shit his pants if he went to a firing range in USA.
fdqsfdsf fdqsfdsqf fdqsfdsf fdqsfdsqf don't be stupid, if it's between dying at the hands of a terrorist or going to jail for firing a gun, he can choose to shoot and live. I would suggest you stay away from America, we have firing ranges all over where people shoot guns. You might pee your pants when you see all those scary "right wingers" practicing their first amendment rights.
Old Adage : Its better to be warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in middle of a war
Cut the social benefits and your problems will be gone.
World wide slide towards militia training? Yeeeee-haaaaaw!
No shit, I find this awesome.
Comments on reporter - "oh no, there are shooting in the woods! " Do you expect them to shot in the middle of the main street ??
I love the French people. Their response to force is always radical. France is a country of revolution and these guy's are preparing for that reality. What a great video again Vice!
"Is Gregory radicalising people". He'd have to be preaching ideology to be doing that. He's just providing military training.
I could see something in that man's eyes that made me feel something special about "Joe"... like I could somehow tell that he had a deeper meaning / reason for being there... So, I wasn't surprised, but rather reassured when they said that he was a survivor of the "Bataclan" shooting. WHOA, that takes some serious gonads, not to mention a real will to overcome, pulling himself together and traveling to Poland to take part in this training (as it is obviously illegal / not possible in his home country of France).
Good for you, Joe, you fill us all with hope and determination!!
"Weird male bonding ritual."
Also known as, what protected the tribe, literally since the dawn of time.
And I'm sure you're an expert in pre-history. Oh wait it was different from tribe to tribe and there's no evidence suggesting that men were always the fighters and in fact we have several finds indicating that women hunted just as often.
hedgehog3180 hahahahahaha. Total bullshit.
We proud of kurwaland
As a polish person who was born in poland and now live in the US, i wish the US was more like poland and didn't give in to this 21st century bs.
Do you think that America is a white country? Check the history that white western European killed millions of Native American and you say that America should be one race one religion? 🤦♀
Wake up bro, you just a New Immigrant from poland
If you don't like diversity just go back to your home country
You're just a selfish, arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful person that i've ever meet
Hopefully you are not racist towards black or other races in the United states as a new immigrant
Funny how u posted this video when a Terrorist Attack has just been made in Barcelona...
one advice for the channel, could you edit the subtitles better? idk how it forks, if you could write them yourselves it would be great.. since i sometimes watch you with volume very low when i'm at work or watching on my phone in public
How about giving the people the right to bear arms so they can confront terrorist?
Mendozer well good luck dealing with terrorism. Good luck with the police and good to see the French need soldiers walking the street.
+Atlanta Light US police act more militaristic than the French army. The US police have killed way more of its own citizens than any other developed nation.
Mendozer Most of those (70%) Are black on black gun violence and of those 90+% involve illegal fire arms illegal fire arms are more common then you think with 2 million in the UK ( Estimate by the House of commons)
And increase our murder rate? No thanks we aren't idiots.
You fucking idiots. Do you belive a murdered will buy a registered gun from the fucking gun shop to do a murder or a gang raid? Especially when there are psichology background checks and other registered files ? These guns are fucking bought on the black market probably imported from poorer countries especially like the ones from south and central america. They are bough through conctact members of gangs that have a certain relationship with the fake gun crafters. They are fake cause they are not created by a gun crafting company with a license number that register them. They are probably made in the back of a fucking backyard. Go fucking research about guns you fucking degenerated pink T-shirted fucks!
5:00 Bro, the target board on the left is sad...the one on the right's looking more like it.
"Attracted by the perceived benefits of a homogeneous society" There it is right there. Vice can't ever admit there just might actually be real solid concrete benefits of homogeneous societies. Why are you so intent on destroying other peoples cultures and way of life? Get off your high horse and realize Multi culture doesn't work when it's force fed and shoved down the throats of people just to appease these corporate masters bottom line. It's a being used as a deliberate tool of these governments to create confusion and distractions away from all the plundering going on by these bank corps and thief politicians. They want constant conflict within so no one is ever strong enough to challenge them. On top of allowing them to clamp down on the people by creating such instability. They're just afraid now because people aren't buying it anymore and beginning to arm themselves.
Lol the women of West Virginia have more experience with firearms than any man in that room.
WINGED HUSSAR
THAT LOGO IS FUCKING AWESOME
Im a Israeli and the only thing ill say is.
don't try to be like us, don't chose to have a struggle.
Looks like Spain could use this training...perfect timing Vice!
Love you Aris!! Good reporting as always!
Poland hates migration but yall come to UK 💁
Danny K European = race. Muslim = religion. My ideal immigration policy would be no religious people at all regardless if whether that's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu etc... And race shouldn't be taken into account but things such as qualifications and work sector should be
ZZ Dixon Christianity is equally as brain dead and evil as Islam imo. If educated and atheist Poles came over instead of Christian, uneducated and unwilling to integrate poles came over id be much happier
Yet they work their ass of compared to lazy Muslims who live on state handouts or like they call it in the ghetto i live in ''Allah's money''
Alex I'm not just talking about Poland though am I. I don't believe ant religious people should be allowed into live in the UK. Individuals with a higher IQ help the economy here however unskilled labourers also come here to work. There are very skilled Poles and other nationalities which are great but there are many that aren't too. Yeah, the average Brit is completely moronic and stupid imo. WW2 has nothing to do with immigration in the 21st century btw 😂
franky Generalisations though. Many Muslims work hard as do many Poles. Many Muslims claim unnecessary benefits as do Poles and Brits. The welfare system needs a rework as to only help those actively looking for work and to take children away from those who have them just for council housing
Civilians should NOT have guns in terrorist situations. It just adds to the confusion. Police and other civilians may mistake the armed civilian for an attacker. Armed civilians can also get in the way of officials. Not to mention, even with training like shown in the video, armed civilians can make mistakes and end up accidentally hurting other civilians. It's just not a good idea.
What do you propose they just end up dead statistics? Civilians should be ARMED, but they should be SMART when deploying it, In an active shooter situation, its best for the good guy to only pull out his firearm, when he is only in IMMIDIATE DANGER, otherwise he could be MISTAKEN for a bad guy if he pulls it out, knowing something is going on, but many meters away from the action, that's the official advise anyway for those type of situations, this way by keeping it holstered until he needs it, he avoids being shot.
Crush Islam!
Erwin Rommel nah
Erwin Rommel word mr Rommel
Crush religion AND spiritualism.
Crush Islam! Because we haven't already done so in destroying Islamic countries and knocked off 1.5 million lives in the last 20 years - men women and children! And fuck "'the other side of the story''.
Because we were told that Saddam Hussein had ''weapons of mass destruction'' and tore open a new one in Iraq, afghanistan, libya, and currently - syria. Even though we came back empty handed - LIKE A BOSS!!
And it's not like some people have a reason to believe that 9-11, the event that started it all, was an inside/outside job or anything, it's ALL conspiriacy theorists who simply are nut-jobs who're questioning the critical questions! NO!
FUEL THE ARTIFICIAL TENSIONS AND THE CYCLE OF VENGENCE!! FUEL THE HATRED!! DIE AS A PAWN FOR MANUFACTURED LIES!! ALL HAIL DEFENCE AS OUR SWORD!!
Islam isn't bad. Its the extremists that give it a bad name.
At 14:00 it summarizes perfectly how human beings are. Black, White, Muslim, Jew, Christian,... take any human population and the fundamentalists of that population will describe their inner feelings in this way that he's describing. I actually love this guy for so many reasons because he's showing so much light on a fundamentalist thought process.
French people fighting back? you mean surrendering, right? lmfao
I commend dude for not even having a flinch after experiencing a shooting like the Batlaclan, none-the-less being a freshly to guns.
Wait until you experience some shit like that or have death hit someone close to you or moreover what's hitting these people is knowing someone affected by that gnarly brutality. You can never-ever shake that feeling of realness: I know personally myself, brahs.
I am glad that Many European men has the spine to defend their land. Love to These Guys.
The feeling of security and confidence in one's ability to act in the face of terror is both priceless and worth more than all of the left's statistics and bitching detached from reality. Vive Le France, Long live Poland, and Long Live Europe.
0:30 big fail, he couldn't save any life with that skill 😂
TheGrenadier13 lmao I was about to mention that, that's when I stopped watching
That's why they're there. To learn how to get better skills.
Why do I need to explain this.
eggo True but you would think that they would've learned that before hand.
Jack 650 leggo my eggo
Jack 650 i think after what antifa and the radicals the far left should be waking up to what's REALLY happening!
Our liberal MSM will not show anything but they're FAKE news!!
Thank you for this documentary! !
Honestly Poland is the best European country
RIP people of Barcelona.
There needs to be more of this. France needs to have a 2nd Amendment and the ability to defend themselves and their families. Period.
Actually, in the long run the Islamic threat may make men again out of the lazy, fat, and indolent men and women who have given into the sin of Sloth.
John Kitchin Wow how convenient that all the people you dislike are in some sort of coalition.
"Do you think everyone should carry a tourniquet?" More loaded questions. Oh how awful. Being trained to carry and use a life saving device in crisis. Even the mundane and sensible things in this video are framed to be seen as scary, crazy, or stupid.
For the terrorist survivor I get why he would do so such thing because he'll be forvever scarred. But for the other guys it seems more overboard considering they're more likely to die from many things than terrorism
if you lived in a country that has had like 5 isis attacks in a couple of years. you would be pretty silly if you wouldn't try to find a way to increase your ways of surviving if ever put in that kind of situation.
what are you saying? you first have to survive a terror attack to be in a position where it would be "justified" to learn self defense? Are you listening to yourself?
I also want to do this course.. what's the cost and duration of this course ??
I didn't see anyone "playing" with guns as the unshaven journalist with the wrinkled to hell shirt put it.
Learning to shoot a gun in self defense is never a bad thing.
The chance these guys will be put in a situation where Rambo skills save the day are extremely slim to none, they're embracing a fantasy similar to cosplay. Getting involved in community outreach programs would be hundreds of times more effective in making their communities safer, but that would require doing grown up things and evolving.
Yuh but this actually its fucking usefull compared to all the fucking weebs and geeks dressing as fucking japanese characters. Gun shooting and phisical training helps you deal with stress way better. Gun shooting its not like in fucking movies where you pick a gun and shoot. There are actually lots of tehnical steps that you must follow sistematically, this leading to better discipline and patience towards the trainees personality. What does cosplay do ? Just makes you look like a fucking freak infront of the others watching TV.
Training to use a gun is a recreational activity. You will almost definatly never need to use it and the mere presence of a gun makes a houshold more dangerous. America didnt get its reputation for shootings and mass murder caused by large numbers of people owning guns. Just to be clear i dont support gun bans or restrictions on how many guns an individual is allowed to own however we need to place stronger restrictions on who is fit to own firearms and accually enforce those regulations.
@Three Nazis walk into a B.A.R. The victim in this video was buried under people during the attack, so this training wouldn't have made a difference, hence the silliness of it all. The problem is knuckleheads who gravitate towards guns and other types of combative training want to put these "skills" to use in the real world, and that's why they are a threat to civil society. And like the OP stated, working with the disenfranchised within your community is countless times more effective in combating terror, if that's your actual goal.
I'd feel safer if these guys were involved in a relations program with poor Muslim communities rather than militia training. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. #commonsense
@Three nazis walk into a B.A.R. The victim could've been a certified ninja and he still would've been stuck under those people, that's what makes the this macho BS so silly. However, doing non-glamorous things like getting involved in your community and reaching out to those ignored by society does make a difference. How many times does this need to be spelled out for you before it sinks in?
Is this really true? Can a french citizen under fire from an attack legally not fire back?
Gooo POLAND! Support and cheers from New Zealand!
Anti jihadist training? Dude this is literally a self defense training camp lol
0:30 , I think you fucked up mate.
Jack Waters I thought too. It became reality
This is what original vice was, solid topics, and interesting videos
Des français ici ? Vous en pensez quoi ?
ChaineYt UA-cam
En dehors de toutes les convictions politiques que l'on peut observer dans les commentaires, se défendre face à un danger réel n'est pas mauvais. Se défendre et défendre son pays est quelque chose d'honnorable, chose qui actuellement s'est totalement perdu en Europe.
Alors je nie pas que le risque de mourir d'un attentat est réel, mais bon quand on sait que on a plsu de chance de mourir d'une piqure d'abeille que d'un attentat, on peut se dire que ce truc est quand même une vaste blague
Ils ne s'entrainent pas à résister au terrorisme en fait vu que le port d'arme est proscrit chez nous. Ils anticipent une dégradation de la paix sociale et éventuellement des conflits armés.
J'en pense que l'état de l'espace commentaire actuel est déplorable.
Sur le long terme on s'en va vers une guerre civile en raison d'une dislocation de l'Etat-Nation et du sentiment de citoyenneté, cet exemple est comme la fissure d'une inévitable rupture bien plus profonde.
I wonder if people know the difference between religious and religious extremist.
Lol
Fear mongering happens everywhere... Sad.
Realistically what are the chances any of these guys are caught in the middle of a terrorist attack
maybe join the army?
Maybe they don't want to leave their families and lives behind? but still, want to defend them selfs also on a side note what do you think starts terrorism in the first place WARS
Inayet Hadi they don't want to be brave, they just want to pretend to be brave.
Inayet Hadi This a ,Militia.
kal smith Its just good ,sense.
Daniel They don't want to pretend to be brave... they only want to have a chance to protect themselves and their families against the threat of terrorism.
Do Poland and Hungary have any troops in the Middle East?
Bloody hell, the Polish teaching the French! If Britain taught them they would be the best fighting force on the planet, aside from the British, obviously. /s
well the would retreat
Parkour, the French art of running away faster than an angry weapon wielding foreigner, whether it be a German or a Russian or a Brit!
+Zoidberg Medic you're not being as funny as you think you are. In fact, you're not being funny in the slightest.
Yeah I suffer from playing too much World War games
The British suck dude they couldn't hold their empire for shit. Would've gotten wiped out in ww2 as well if it weren't for their allies
Being trained for a possible scenario means is being prepared. If it could help you not become a victim, wouldn't it be worth spending a afternoon or weekend learning?
Barcelona...
mellowizard False flag, go back to😴
Wulfric Wodenson manchester , London , Paris
Keep fighting. I am French by ancestry and I hope you men and women can truly find a way to ignore your useless government and fight against those that they let in that would harm you.
How the hell would you defend yourself against a terrorist attack with a gun? They are people who attack knowing they might get killed, and besides, they do not exactly "tell you in advance that they will now shoot you". This is not a movie where the villain points at the hero and talks to him for 10 minutes.
Exactly.
Possibly, but there is also the possibility that he might have panicked. Self-defence is mostly fear management and when you get hit in a sudden terrorist attack, you might easily panic.
There is also the possibility that he might have got shot the very second he would have pulled the gun on them.
Besides, when a guy blows himself and others up or comes at you driving a car, a gun does dick.
Also, there is the problem that I doubt these people on the training camp are not taught about the legal definitions of self-defence.
+Three nazis walk into a B.A.R.
During a car attack i can think of few scenarios worse than scared civilians running around with guns.
Just like in Barcelona - shoot the f..cker thru wind shild and stop his ride on the ramblas 450 meters erlier ! No, better ! Just shoot him before he start accelerating on pedestrian walk !
MrTigerpirro yeah civilians being run down by a van is even worst.
I can't believe u
"Combat shitting with anger"
Sounds bad ass.
Hahaha... As if Poland have the balls to talk about mass migration XD
Poland has taken more refugees and migrants than Germany. Not only we have the balls to discuss this topic on which statistics are in favour of our approach. We also have the balls to say simple verses like "There is no room for Islam in Poland, except for Ahmadiyya believers that live with us for over 400 years"
And that's how it will stay. It's ridiculous that people spout bullshit about us being "anti-immigrant" when we take so many. We're anti-Muslim immigrant. That is quite precise. Islam is a backwater 3rd world ideology that has more fascism in it than Mein Kampf.
We're not going to indulge such stupidity. Poland is a Christian country and we're not afraid nor has any guilt for anything in the past to use shame against us, people who want to work here and be Polish, live and work with us for the well being of our nation are always welcome here.
Economic migrants from 3rd world countries that have violence, rape and lack of respect for human rights firmly rooted in their cultures, are not welcome and if it's necessary we will stand on our borders and repel them ourselves.
lmao polish people aint even european your language is fucking slavic and you guys get lynched by real white people in the UK. You guys are Btech white people hated just as much by western europe as muslims.
Marcin Dobrowolski well said my freind , tak dobra
Marcin Dobrowolski So we got more pozzed then Germany?
I loved the 80's soundtrack throughout the episode, great choice of music
That guy taking multiple rounds of hot brass to the forehead made me chuckle
It's not Isis terrisom its Muslim/Islam terrisom
Btw fuck you I disliked you leftist cucks
There are more kinds of terorrism you know...
Plankton mem Plankton mem no such thing
"Are you suggesting that people should be carrying tourniquet all the time?"
Yes, all day every day, two if you can, more in your vehicle.
Being against secularism and sharia is like being against exercise and obesity.
France needs more men like these. What he says about the country loosing it's masculinity is true.
I wish VICE would share all the answers that they obviously have to the rest of the world on how to deal with counter terrorism. They seem to have it all figured out.
It's sad to see this problem growing worse and worse over the years
We Swedes need this as well. But it is probably illegal to even get this training for Swedes and even more illegal to fight back against any type of aggression.
Interesting. Thanks for reporting
Wow, Vice not bashing gun owners or self defense minded folks. Hell has froze over.
Don't forget vice is pure liberal left-wing propaganda which is demonizing any white nationalist uprising in europe.
AMERICA, WHERE YOU CAN CARRY AN AR-15 in ur pants :)
Why do I get the feeling that this vice document is leaning more to the left and has a subtle way of portraying the genuine concerns and how the way these people want to learn to defend themselves against a real genuine terrorist attack. How is there any other way to learn to defend oneself from a real threat involving terrorist using real guns killing innocent people? It's fucking obvious to say that the training would involve learning how to use a gun and doing it safely as possible. But it wasn't all about using guns it also was learning them how to use field dressings but as I suspected the emphasis was more about the weapon training. I would bet my life's savings that we only got shown a small percentage of what was filmed during the whole interview and its obvious it was more about labelling them more as a militia than a defensive purpose.
When you have people that think that the government can't protect them anymore then you know that you fucked up.
Was anyone else distracted by the fact that the participants were carrying and drawing their Glocks from condition 3 (AKA no round in the chamber). It was just irritating. The teacup grip was also distracting.
Besides that, good on these guys for getting some training. HOWEVER, since France has heavy restrictions on guns, they would be better served spending more time with the medical portion than the shooting portion. This is particularly true since the medical portion can be useful in situations beyond terrorist shootings, like car accidents.
Poland and Hungary at least have learned thier lesson. The rest of the EU are just letting thier citizens be victimized with all thier pacifist laws and anti self defense laws.
I'm English and from a nanny state, I have only had the chance so far to Shoot firearms in the Land of the Free, where is that you may ask? America of course! and it was such a good feeling to be able to take part in this activity, I am glad that things like this are available for people to take part in around Europe now, I was under the impression that the British style of nanny state is mostly all around Europe.. but with one or two better circumstances such as pepper spray being legal to buy etc in certain European nations, this gives me hope for the future.. as we all need to be able to defend our selves from not only criminality, but the Jihadist threat potentially.
This reminds me of 5 foot women taking self-defense classes.
Thinking they can now fight of rapists lol.
I'm German and I already have a tiny bit of experience with small arms. Sign me up for that training! A very good idea. It's sad that people have to go to Poland just to learn how to defend themselves.
what could you do with a pistol against a truck running into a crowd though?
Who said that it's always going to be a truck? And if it's a truck and it doesn't hit me, I can at least kill the driver. Should I rather cower in fear like the Muslims want us to?
Besides, even trucks can be stopped. You just need some heavier weapons.
@Markus listen fella and answer me this, why aren't the white Germans informing on the nazis that still exist in your country?End of the day all groups have their radicals and extremists but the vast majority dont deserve discrimination because of it.
M1 Garand you're a backwards hillbillie and I choose to end our correspondence at this point or I'd be pissing in the wind, go and show your buddies how you won the argument. You have zero skills to debate properly.
Whenever someone says that the French are whinny, show them this guy...
If they don't have guns to defend themselves, what's the point in gun training?
It's pretty interesting how people talk about how "racist" it is without LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE CLASS.
2:29 lmao is that some relic from the 60s?