Exactly. Han is the best hero in HVV. He can stand on the other side of the map and get headshots, and when it gets close range he can shoulder charge and detonite. I have no idea what he was thinking when he added it to this list.
@@peteydeletey1115 with regards to obiwan it sounds basically useless. Unless your still not allowed to use your abilities when affected. It sounds like less of a hassle to deal with.
As if he wasn't strong enough already. Light side need buffed overall. I don't know about normal modes, but in HvV dark side stomp on light side most of the time.
@@raecher3393 After playing normal gamemodes, yes light side is strong on those, especially against infantry and playing the objective. By Darkside heroes excel in HvV, they have many moves such as Vaders choke and Kylo's freeze etc. which is an instant kill essentially if other people are around. Jedi pretty much only use the force to 'push' which isn't good for follow up attacks. Not even mention how OP palpatine is in this. Can't honstely remember the last time me and my friend lost as Darkside. From what I can see, it's simply impossible to balance these characters around so many various modes.
@TangibleArrow Same here her TL-50 is super good and she’s just in general a cool character but that Pulse Cannon jeez I only used it in Campaign cause it had a scope and the TL-50 doesn’t have a scope
I'm like the only one that thinks that the nerf was necessary, if a toxic obi wan saw a bossk , iden, or phasma, they'd just be dead no questions asked, I hated how being a blaster villain was a death sentence back then lmao
@@incredibilsmain2442 u need damage reduction card and good timing. Bomb into it. Duels are long they're aint fast u need the perfect timing. Damn its been a year since I posted this. And it's still valid . Also if u get hit by the charge and get downed ur gunna take alot more the 150 damage.
@@incredibilsmain2442 yes it is thats why timing is everything and its very close. Idk dude I'm max level and have alot of time in the game. I'm just saying han has two cc's. He is very good
TheOzzyJedi: ''Han Solo's Shoulder Charge is a bad ability.'' Han mains: * laughs in detonite and shoulder charge combo * Wow. 100+ likes in less than a day. That's quite a bit. Thanks, y'all!
I actually disagree with Dooku's expose weakness being on the list. In GA and CS, perhaps, but in HVV and HS it's great. Against agile enemy heroes like Luke or Rey it helps a lot, but its even better when used on cowardly low health enemies running away. Furthermore, when used in 2 v 1 situation in your favour, it can help swiftly defeat a hero and move on to the next. It can be chained with hard hitting attacks like Duelist, Vader's Throw or Rocket Barrage for instant kills. Manage it properly and the 20% extra damage is useful.
There was no reason to nerf Obi-wans mind trick. Its completely useless now. It was only overpowered when used in conjunction with Reys. All they had to do to fix that was to not let them stack. Its wasnt that hard to figure out.
The reason why they got rid of it was because I’d you were playing as someone like Iden you would just instantly lose because you can’t dodge any of the attacks he did.
I think Dookus Exposed Weakness is an amazing ability, the best times to use it is to deter heroes from attacking you as well as using it when they go for infantry as either you can attack them while they are attacking your teammates or your team will attack the hero while exposed weakness is active on them.
@@reedcoffman3210 and most veteran phasmas can put the droid in the right places sooooooo lmao and even then therre are more newcomers and average players rn
@@LeeEverett1 Boba mains in a nutshell:Spam rockets and blaster,run away,when they give up go back to kill,emote and think you are good. I hate those bobas
@@alfiemccormack7988 that's the only good thing about it. It's fine against infantry but against heroes it just simply isn't good enough. Add that onto the fact that you have to take a ton of damage to be able to even use it....yikes.
Sky Blue Sheepy staff strikes only work in HvV if you’re fighting a blaster hero at close range and their blaster overheats or a saber hero who doesn’t know where the block button is
@@beanjuice4263 a good phasma can beat any saber hero, you have to use staff strikes sparingly between your dodges with your blaster and normal melee, you cant just spam them like a saber hero and expect to win
@@Xokken333 A good phasma can beat a saber hero easy, just not with staff strikes. Unless a saber hero is stunned they can just block the staff, and if they're stunned you get more damage with the blaster. I guess if your blaster overheated right as the stun started staff strikes would be a decent choice
Shield just needs to get replaced, her e-11 should be like the spys sharpshot ability high damage for a short active time her stun nade should last longer and do like 150 damage maybe
@Reed C. Dice should just swap her stun grenade with the officers stun grenade(I don't know why an infantry class has a better grenade then a hero, wtf Dice?)Replace her shield with a stamina or health boost for herself and teammates. And make her E-11 more accurate but decrease the active time to balance it out.
Expose weakness on it's own isnt that great but when paired with duelist then its deadly. I like the ability but mostly when it is activated with duelist.
10. Obiwans Mind Trick (Make it disable dodges) 9. Hans Shoulder Charge (Give 90% damage reduction for 2 sec after leaving the charge) 8. Rapid Fire E-11 (Give it Ion Shot) 7. Undercover Team (Give Finn double Health on kill when using it) 6. Lightning Stun (Make it deal 65 Damage and add half a second stun time) 5. Smoke Grenade (Double the thickness and size of smoke) 4. Concussion Rocket (Disable abilities and dodges and deal 100 Damage) 3. Staff Strike (Give 75% Damage Reduction and make the animation shorter) 2. Flash Grenade (Replace with Thermal Detonator) 1. Squad Shield (Replace with Personal Buff)
I feel Obi Wans ability would be a bit more balanced if you only could use 1 dodge while under its effects. On one hand I get why they changed it from not being able to dodge to dodging, a way to fight back and it’s unblockbale/gun heroes were not able to do anything except die. But right now it’s a bit too weak as I mainly use it to back up other heroes attacking me as Obi .
I use shoulder charge to psych people out and make them dodge. I activate it and they usually dodge backwards or run away and I just roll backwards and blast spam them. It is also useful when you hit someone and as they lie on the ground, its easy headshots
Use expose weakness when with friends as you can weaken opponents and they can blast them on game modes like Galatic assualt and Capital supremecy. Leia needs a revamp of her abilities. Phasma needs a different ability to Staff strike.
Kenobi Mind trick should be a freeze/stun. The light side needs more characters with a freeze/stun like Kylo, the emperor or Vader. His current mind trick is useless especially considering most times it’s used on me my abilities are recharging anyway
11:46 I can already tell you that all of Anakin's abilities are going to make it on that list. The same could be said about Papa palps. God, I hate Anakin and Palps in Battlefront 2017, they should really nerf all the force abilities by giving everyone force immunity for three seconds after being force pulled/pushed/repulsed/froze. This will allow players to recover and remind these toxic Ani and Palps that they need skill/experience to dominate the battlefront and not to rely on cheap tactics.
I agree with Palpatine but not Anakin. Palpatine is mostly overpowered due to his extremely quick dodge speed and distance as well as his very quick recovery time. Nothing is more infuriating than knocking down Palps and running up to him to get a few swings in, only for him to immediately recover and dash away before the first hit even connects. As for Anakin, he's easy to deal with if you're patient. All of Anakins abilities can be blocked and I've noticed a lot of Ani players will spam their abilities as soon as possible. This is when he is most vurnable. Just wait for the opponent to waste their ability as you block and then go after him. Most Anakin players I've encountered dont know what to do once they are out of abilities and are fairly easy to deal with.
@@46sn29 I know how to deal with Ani mains as a saber hero. My real problem is the force spam or combo that he does. Especially if you're a blaster hero. If you're even pulled just once its all over. This is Anakin: force pull then force repulse and finally use passionate strike to deal even more damage. His star cards also add to this. With this combo, you can literally kill boba and bossk instantly. Don't believe me, try it out in arcade with two controllers and use all of Anakin's abilities on Boba or Bossk.
@@Darth_Anomalous I main Boba. Anakin is a no threat to me. When he uses force pull, I immediately use air recover. This prevents you from getting within range of his heroic might. I piss off many Ani players to the point where they will actually send me hate messages because of how "cheap" I am. Really the only blaster heroes that are susceptible to Anakin are Phasma, Iden and Bossk. And even then, you can time your roll to avoid getting hit by the force pull. The moment you see Anakin begin his force pull animation, hit the roll button. It takes practice but it is doable.
Dookus exposed weakness also removes healing now, plus its good against blaster heros. I use it in case there is a bosk or boba since it increases damage taken by the player affected so if boba or bosk use their explosives then you can take out a hero pretty easy.
I think the Top three worst should be (In no specific order, they’re all bad)... 1. Leia’s Flash nade 2. Obi-Wan’s Mind Trick 3. Boba’s Concussive Rocket
Leia's flash grenade should get a swap from officer's, the shield can be made that it deflects lightning, and Obiwan's mind trick can be changed that it makes the victims can only damage his own teammates for a few seconds?
WAAYYY better. I've killed heroes multiple times using it. The knockback is sooo good. I think the long animation is what really brings it down. Also it isn't very good at galactic assault. In HVV it's ok but GA.. not really.
The only redeeming quality for Phasmas staff strikes is that card that reduces all her cool downs after 5 kills with them. It’s a really good card once you get there - her middle ability will always be available to use which is great with the care that gives her damage resistance
Ozzy what would you think about doing a video about the best hero/villain combo powerups? Like Luke's push and slam, or Anakin's pull and slam/retribution, or Kylo's pull and freeze.
Why not give Leia some of her force sensitive abilities from the sequel trilogy? Like maybe a brink of death health boost to reference when she saves herself in The Last Jedi?
@@Xokken333 His mind trick is useless, if one of your teammates uses a force power like push or pull dominance. It completely cancels out his mindtrick letting the enemy team use their abilities even with the mindtrick still affecting them.
@@reeeee5399 it still has uses, it gives you time to recover stamina safely, use your rush ability safely, takes away hero abilities temporarily, which for some heroes is their only good means to kill you. Everything else about kenobi is already well above average he's already a tank he doesn't need more abilities for offense.
@@reeeee5399 to your point on other hero abilities cancelling out it's effects I agree this aspect could use removal since other heroes are able to chain most abilities with each other
If you hit an Iden using her Pulse Cannon with Restrictive Mind Trick there's literally nothing she can do. Just letting you know, because I learnt the hard way.
He is wrong about having one purpose, but his point is really how is this ability suppose to fit with Leia's playstyle or how it could be even useful in many stitutions
They need to give boba a flamethrower again to encourage boba players to also fight close quarters rather than be constantly distant. Also giving people more of a chance of killing boba
Obi Wans mind trick is good on some units An unfurled droideka will almost certainly die It's one of the best ways to deal with commando droids as it disables they're dodges Jet troopers are also vulnerable when hit
Only time I'd call people sweats is when they all turtle in one tiny room because there getting shit on or camp ledges when they are losing otherwise they are just better than me:)
For leia, make her flash grenade blind AND invert controls for a time limit. Squad shield should have a bacta dispenser which regens allies in the shield AND block emperors lightning. Her rapid fire should have a damage buff and give her a damage reduction while active. Also, her pistol should have a secondary fire speed buff and a slight normal fire damage buff. Also have a card which is like officers presence card, wwhere allies near her get decreased regen delay and increased regen speed.
Shoulder charge has saved myself like a million times you just gotta be smart with it I've never died while using it, it usually ends the conflict with the knockdown.
The officer's flash grenade is NOT better than Leia's. They literally swapped the officer flashbang and Leia's because the complete blind effect is soooo much better
@@tomh90s boba can use his jetpack regardless, kenobi already kills blaster heros with his mind trick regardless of having the ability to dodge or not. Same is said with any person who is competent with a saber hero in a 1v1 with a blaster.
@@tomh90s Boba can fly, Emperor can jump and shoot lightning, Iden could alt at ground and as for Bossk... Yeah he's fucked unless you gas yourself before he uses it on you as a shield. I don't think it would be OP, considering how so many of the dark side abilities are just as powerful.
The officer and Leia's flash grenades should be swapped. Then just buff the damage and revert only Leia's to the old white screen concussed effect. For the shield either completely rework it with something else or make it block force powers and allow her to shoot through it. Then those would at least be useful in HVV. I never really thought the E-11 for her was that bad but they could buff the accuracy and active time to round that one out more. All in all it's actually simple to come up with balances for Leia, I think the problem lies with the devs ability to execute. (Order 66)
Phasma’s Staff strikes are not as bad as you make it seem and it doesn’t deserve the #1 spot in your list. I have had many hero kills with her staff strikes, also note that the last hit has a knock down which enables her to easily finish off her enemies. Can’t believe you would put Boba’s concussion grenade higher than Phasma’s staff strikes.
Shoulder charge is good. Especially against Boba since you could take him out while he's down, it's also a good counted for lightsaber heroes a few times
Why don't they just make Leia's Squad Shield block force powers? It will change up the meta of the game drastically and will actually give blaster characters a way to counter the constant rag doll effects that you can't protect against.
Actually Phasma's staff attack ability isn't all that bad now but I rarely get the kill count for the card that shortens the cooldown for all her abilities if you get five kills with it. That needs to be reduced to 3 kills
Leia isn't as bad as you describe her to be, the flash grenade, like you said has a star card to reveal enemies, which can help you find out if an objective is occupied, and if the map is out in the open you can deploy the squad shield, which helps your team gain the objective easier. You can also combo this by luring in villans and surprising them with her rapid fire. It's not that leia has bad abilities, it's that her abilities aren't used right, and a buff may make her too powerful.
My problem with Leia is her secondary fire, It takes way to long to recharge it compare Iden keep spamming her TL-50 secondary fire since Iden’s secondary fire does splash damaged & it makes a lot of Damage
I feel like instead of rapid fire Leia should have some sort of stun/flash gun making her a complete support hero. Kinda like Phasma who imo can't really beat people head to head.
Undercover Team is only good for Galactic Assault, Hero Showdown, and Heroes Vs Villains! Finn really is Invisible on Enemy Radar's! I was being chased by Darth Vader once! I activated it and ran into a corner! He actually lost me and he was looking like where did he go?
there actually is an usage for obi wans mind trick for the ones who dont know. It is excelent at preventing rushes.Expecially a BX commando vibro blade rush,its not a big use but i have seen many bx players just wanna rush then i use my mind trick and they either flee giving me time to repozition or die because they are confused as to what is just happening
i think they would change her flash grenade to a shock grenade and she should be able to shoot through her shield and have a 150 health buff while in shield
Obi Wan is very strong without his mindtrick but they just nerfed too much,just make the mind trick invert aim or something,every one is used to cooldawn
Imagine living in a universe where Anakin's retribution was his worst ability...
Commander Bait has less damage reduction then Heroic might so that could be the worst thing about Retribution 😅
Retribution has always been Anakins weakest ability
@@eredinbreaccglas8396 really? It rips through infantry and if he has some teammates near him then they destroy you while he is choking
Passionate is his weakest
Concise Mango Passionate strike is good for breaking Guard, but man does it suck. 100% agree.
Han solo’s shoulder charge is a supppper good ability
Yeah especially if you know how to use it
Alex Kim i’m a han main, and in hvv you can do a detonate and shoulder combo they some headshot, this combo melt even vader.
Exactly. Han is the best hero in HVV. He can stand on the other side of the map and get headshots, and when it gets close range he can shoulder charge and detonite. I have no idea what he was thinking when he added it to this list.
@@KTLaughter yes, i am a han main too and feel the same way as evreyone else here too. Lol
true
Mind trick would bave not been on this list if it wasn't nerfed
How did they nerf it?
Jose Sosa you are able to dodge when u get mind tricked now
@@peteydeletey1115 with regards to obiwan it sounds basically useless. Unless your still not allowed to use your abilities when affected. It sounds like less of a hassle to deal with.
It should prevent abilities, dodges and blasters. It would be strong but it is his middle ability and should therefore be good
well its a complete death sentence to blaster heros in its pre nerf state
Count Dookus Abilitiy cancels extra health too since the last update
still not useful yoda and finn can get bodied by dooku either way
As if he wasn't strong enough already. Light side need buffed overall. I don't know about normal modes, but in HvV dark side stomp on light side most of the time.
OfficerBear especially in hero showdown. Light side needs major buff or another saber hero
OfficerBear sry man but the problem might be you... the light side is extremely strong especially with Anakin!
@@raecher3393 After playing normal gamemodes, yes light side is strong on those, especially against infantry and playing the objective. By Darkside heroes excel in HvV, they have many moves such as Vaders choke and Kylo's freeze etc. which is an instant kill essentially if other people are around. Jedi pretty much only use the force to 'push' which isn't good for follow up attacks. Not even mention how OP palpatine is in this. Can't honstely remember the last time me and my friend lost as Darkside.
From what I can see, it's simply impossible to balance these characters around so many various modes.
I would have Idens pulse cannon on this list
It useless
Same here
FelipeKun yeah the ability is bad but you can hide back and rack up kills with her in hvv
@@5thelonewolf5 I honestly like her as a character.
@TangibleArrow Same here her TL-50 is super good and she’s just in general a cool character but that Pulse Cannon jeez I only used it in Campaign cause it had a scope and the TL-50 doesn’t have a scope
Before the recent nerf to Obi wans mindtrick that now allows you to dodge, it was probably the best ability in the game
Facts man
And like the ONLY counter to the emperor
OBCity 71 tried force pushing him? I have found that as a good counter.
@@lofdraws7006 han, anakin, and Lando are good counters to the emperor
I'm like the only one that thinks that the nerf was necessary, if a toxic obi wan saw a bossk , iden, or phasma, they'd just be dead no questions asked, I hated how being a blaster villain was a death sentence back then lmao
Um Han's shoulder charger in hvv is insane
Against people who don't have a dodge button. He also takes like a quarter damage for an attack that does like 150
@@incredibilsmain2442 u need damage reduction card and good timing. Bomb into it. Duels are long they're aint fast u need the perfect timing. Damn its been a year since I posted this. And it's still valid . Also if u get hit by the charge and get downed ur gunna take alot more the 150 damage.
@@703jay4 it's easy to dodge
@@incredibilsmain2442 yes it is thats why timing is everything and its very close. Idk dude I'm max level and have alot of time in the game. I'm just saying han has two cc's. He is very good
Whenever someone tries to charge me I just walk backwards and hit them in their recovering animation
TheOzzyJedi: ''Han Solo's Shoulder Charge is a bad ability.''
Han mains: * laughs in detonite and shoulder charge combo *
Wow. 100+ likes in less than a day. That's quite a bit. Thanks, y'all!
Yeah, this video is a bad opinionated list.
No poopies.
That combo with his rapid fire at the end can destroy villains fast
Can confirm.
I’d say it’s one of the best lol
i personally have great success with the staff strikes while supporting another team mate in hvv
It's a godly ability in co-op
Decent in Hero Showdown as well
It would be cool if she could toggle between her blaster and staff as primary weapon
The only people who dont like her staff strikes are pussys
@@nailmontana1993 correction: pussies who can't aim.
I actually disagree with Dooku's expose weakness being on the list. In GA and CS, perhaps, but in HVV and HS it's great. Against agile enemy heroes like Luke or Rey it helps a lot, but its even better when used on cowardly low health enemies running away. Furthermore, when used in 2 v 1 situation in your favour, it can help swiftly defeat a hero and move on to the next. It can be chained with hard hitting attacks like Duelist, Vader's Throw or Rocket Barrage for instant kills. Manage it properly and the 20% extra damage is useful.
Yea using it again sweaty lukes is so fuckin satisfying like *run now bich*
@@RamLal-nq2jh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
So Hans shoulder charge is bad but Idens pulse rifle isn’t?
You kidding? It is literally the most broken ability in the game, but no one somehow even notices it.
There was no reason to nerf Obi-wans mind trick. Its completely useless now. It was only overpowered when used in conjunction with Reys. All they had to do to fix that was to not let them stack. Its wasnt that hard to figure out.
It was OP anytime it's a 2v1 all they have to do is spam through your block and there's nothing you could do
Anytime it was a 2v1 all they had to do was spam through your block and your dead since you couldn't dodge and there's no defense against it
Literally the whole battlefront 2 community is smarter than dice
Not being able to doge vs more than one person would = dead, yeah no fuck that
The reason why they got rid of it was because I’d you were playing as someone like Iden you would just instantly lose because you can’t dodge any of the attacks he did.
I think Dookus Exposed Weakness is an amazing ability, the best times to use it is to deter heroes from attacking you as well as using it when they go for infantry as either you can attack them while they are attacking your teammates or your team will attack the hero while exposed weakness is active on them.
Leia whould be so much better if she could shoot through her shield
Mopeypaladin it could be op though
@@Mattsthedevil that's the point commander
@@Mattsthedevil they could just reduce the damage while shooting through the shield if it was too op.
Mopeypaladin
i agree
Or they could punish enemies for being inside her shield to counteract the healing of the team
4:21 pretty sure dodging under the influence is illegal
@@BigMac0369 wooosh
One word nerfed
Dui but for nerds
The staff strikes can be extremely op against heroes, they can kill a full health han with one use!!!
Yes, against a noob. But against a veteran u will instantly be dead by the time of the third swing
@@larryt2839 even if you're han and you're stunned by her droid?
Tolidaros No veteran is dumb enough to run into the range of the droid
@@reedcoffman3210 I'm not talking about me, and there aren't that many veterans compared to newcomers and noobs
@@reedcoffman3210 and most veteran phasmas can put the droid in the right places sooooooo lmao
and even then therre are more newcomers and average players rn
6:48 wait Boba can recover from a force push in mid air? That's actually pretty cool
But incredibly annoying. Using Anakin and using pull to get him towards you is useless cause he can just take off again. It's fuckin annoying af
PopKultureGuy nah u just suck
PopKultureGuy Anakins are bitches anyways, use Finn.
@@the_revanchist_ Boba mains in HvV are super cancerous. There is literally nothing you can do when all they do is fly away and spam rockets.
@@LeeEverett1 Boba mains in a nutshell:Spam rockets and blaster,run away,when they give up go back to kill,emote and think you are good.
I hate those bobas
They all should have a 4th ability or no one has one. Especially when it is a op as retribution
Retribution is garbage not OP. Firstly you can only use it twice if your really lucky and secondly it just does not to enough damage.
@@GrimmReaper53320 it choke holds everyone in a massive circle radius
@@alfiemccormack7988 that's the only good thing about it. It's fine against infantry but against heroes it just simply isn't good enough. Add that onto the fact that you have to take a ton of damage to be able to even use it....yikes.
Grimm Reaper in HVV, it can single handedlily turn the tables of a game.
@@yankeeforcestudios5431 Except it doesn't because it hardly damages the enemies.
Ozzy: boba fett’s concussion rocket should disable blasters, dodge and hero abilities
Me: yeah no.....
Actually I'm pretty sure there's a Star card that can disable blasters for Boba fett
@@duckfacepersonguy9611 its bugged tho, only will work if you hit the enemy directly
@Blue yeah its completly useless
I think just disabling blocks is pretty sufficient for a boba buff cause ever since the rocket barrage nerf, hes kinda ass now
Disable blasters, sure. Dodge, maybe. Abilities? Hold up...
OzzyJedi: leia’s rapid direction sucks
a month and a half later: leia be op
In HvV the staff strikes are not bad. Certainly more useful than Kenobi's Mind Trick or Leia's Squad shield. Imo
Kenobi's mind trick is still good it makes his rush safe against any hero where it otherwise wouldnt be
Sky Blue Sheepy staff strikes only work in HvV if you’re fighting a blaster hero at close range and their blaster overheats or a saber hero who doesn’t know where the block button is
@@beanjuice4263 a good phasma can beat any saber hero, you have to use staff strikes sparingly between your dodges with your blaster and normal melee, you cant just spam them like a saber hero and expect to win
@@Xokken333 A good phasma can beat a saber hero easy, just not with staff strikes. Unless a saber hero is stunned they can just block the staff, and if they're stunned you get more damage with the blaster.
I guess if your blaster overheated right as the stun started staff strikes would be a decent choice
I’m a Max level Captain Phasma player. You would be surprised how easy it is to get kills with staff strikes. Saber and gun heros.
When all of leias abilities are on the list
Shield just needs to get replaced, her e-11 should be like the spys sharpshot ability high damage for a short active time her stun nade should last longer and do like 150 damage maybe
@Reed C. Dice should just swap her stun grenade with the officers stun grenade(I don't know why an infantry class has a better grenade then a hero, wtf Dice?)Replace her shield with a stamina or health boost for herself and teammates. And make her E-11 more accurate but decrease the active time to balance it out.
Freddie Mercury the Lightside doesn’t need another healer
E-11 is super good in Teamfights
3:15 excuse me?
You have been excused
@@aguy1272, 😂
I feel like expose weakness should not let you roll
No it would be too OP that way
@@cs7simmo246 it could be, but the point of it is to help dooku to disable his enemies such as op anakin and han dodge combo
@@cs7simmo246 op can be consider if you have an unkillable enemy or an invicible threat with no weakness
So if you couldn’t sprint and couldn’t roll away from Count Dooku how the fuck do you imagine to live? There’s no chance of you living that
Injun Sentry way too broken imagine not rolling when Dooku has duelist and plus the extra damage star cards PLUS exposed weakness mega yikes
You can jump to cancel Han's shoulder charge animation, it's faster then dodging.
Leias Rapid Fire is great, you have to keep in mind it’s only good once a lightsaber user comes close because it does more damage to Lightsaber users.
Do the best abilities next I bet its gonna be Anakin's Retribution
Its the best and coolest. Unless ur me and die every time im about to get or use it, and takes forever for me to get
@@Muddfeet64 yeah the animation its so cool
Unblockables are better for hvv and area of effect for GA/CS
Well u lost the best cuz its not there in the video
Darth there isn’t that much unblockables, and it can easily affect every opponent in hvv or hs
Expose weakness on it's own isnt that great but when paired with duelist then its deadly. I like the ability but mostly when it is activated with duelist.
Actually you can disable blasters with bobas concussion rocket but you need a star card which i dont use cause he has better cards
SWO_ Ventur I only use when the light side has chewy if I use that blaster disabled rocket he’s fucked
The star card only works if the rocket makes direct contact with the enemy otherwise it dont do shit
SWO_ Ventur he really doesn’t have better star cards tho 😂
@@Masterchuh5 true what i mainly use is two jetpack cards and focalize
Ability suppose to help turn the tides of battle, what's the point in hitting someone with paper instead of a rock
10. Obiwans Mind Trick (Make it disable dodges)
9. Hans Shoulder Charge (Give 90% damage reduction for 2 sec after leaving the charge)
8. Rapid Fire E-11 (Give it Ion Shot)
7. Undercover Team (Give Finn double Health on kill when using it)
6. Lightning Stun (Make it deal 65 Damage and add half a second stun time)
5. Smoke Grenade (Double the thickness and size of smoke)
4. Concussion Rocket (Disable abilities and dodges and deal 100 Damage)
3. Staff Strike (Give 75% Damage Reduction and make the animation shorter)
2. Flash Grenade (Replace with Thermal Detonator)
1. Squad Shield (Replace with Personal Buff)
In smoke enemies cant lock with blasters or lightsabers on Lando.
I feel Obi Wans ability would be a bit more balanced if you only could use 1 dodge while under its effects. On one hand I get why they changed it from not being able to dodge to dodging, a way to fight back and it’s unblockbale/gun heroes were not able to do anything except die. But right now it’s a bit too weak as I mainly use it to back up other heroes attacking me as Obi .
The staff strike works like a charm against lightsaber heroes (trust me I’m a lvl 52 Phasma sweat)
People sleep on her staff
Is that considered a sweat nowadays?
Alex So yes people hate it
Arthur Fleck the level doesn’t affect whether your a sweat or not it’s how hard u play
robust cube I know
I use shoulder charge to psych people out and make them dodge. I activate it and they usually dodge backwards or run away and I just roll backwards and blast spam them. It is also useful when you hit someone and as they lie on the ground, its easy headshots
8:20 are we human ignor the rage in the chat or no lol
Lol
Use expose weakness when with friends as you can weaken opponents and they can blast them on game modes like Galatic assualt and Capital supremecy. Leia needs a revamp of her abilities. Phasma needs a different ability to Staff strike.
Lando's smoke ability stops lightsaber hero's from locking onto him when they attack.
Not many know this.
The Creeping Jay If you’re using smoke on a sith close enough to hit you with their lightsaber it probably won’t matter anyways though
Kenobi Mind trick should be a freeze/stun. The light side needs more characters with a freeze/stun like Kylo, the emperor or Vader. His current mind trick is useless especially considering most times it’s used on me my abilities are recharging anyway
11:46
I can already tell you that all of Anakin's abilities are going to make it on that list. The same could be said about Papa palps.
God, I hate Anakin and Palps in Battlefront 2017, they should really nerf all the force abilities by giving everyone force immunity for three seconds after being force pulled/pushed/repulsed/froze. This will allow players to recover and remind these toxic Ani and Palps that they need skill/experience to dominate the battlefront and not to rely on cheap tactics.
I agree with Palpatine but not Anakin. Palpatine is mostly overpowered due to his extremely quick dodge speed and distance as well as his very quick recovery time. Nothing is more infuriating than knocking down Palps and running up to him to get a few swings in, only for him to immediately recover and dash away before the first hit even connects. As for Anakin, he's easy to deal with if you're patient. All of Anakins abilities can be blocked and I've noticed a lot of Ani players will spam their abilities as soon as possible. This is when he is most vurnable. Just wait for the opponent to waste their ability as you block and then go after him. Most Anakin players I've encountered dont know what to do once they are out of abilities and are fairly easy to deal with.
Anakin is easy.
But palpatine needs a nerf
@@vprebz9254 He's still annoying when you least expect him.
@@46sn29 I know how to deal with Ani mains as a saber hero. My real problem is the force spam or combo that he does. Especially if you're a blaster hero. If you're even pulled just once its all over.
This is Anakin: force pull then force repulse and finally use passionate strike to deal even more damage. His star cards also add to this. With this combo, you can literally kill boba and bossk instantly. Don't believe me, try it out in arcade with two controllers and use all of Anakin's abilities on Boba or Bossk.
@@Darth_Anomalous I main Boba. Anakin is a no threat to me. When he uses force pull, I immediately use air recover. This prevents you from getting within range of his heroic might. I piss off many Ani players to the point where they will actually send me hate messages because of how "cheap" I am. Really the only blaster heroes that are susceptible to Anakin are Phasma, Iden and Bossk. And even then, you can time your roll to avoid getting hit by the force pull. The moment you see Anakin begin his force pull animation, hit the roll button. It takes practice but it is doable.
Dookus exposed weakness also removes healing now, plus its good against blaster heros. I use it in case there is a bosk or boba since it increases damage taken by the player affected so if boba or bosk use their explosives then you can take out a hero pretty easy.
Can u do the best hero abilities
Every stun
There
Done
Did you mean an Anakin and Palpatine video?
Bean Juice well not passionate strike and electrocute
The concussion missile is pretty bad but u can use a card for it that makes the hit targets blasters disabled for like 1.5 seconds
I think the Top three worst should be (In no specific order, they’re all bad)...
1. Leia’s Flash nade
2. Obi-Wan’s Mind Trick
3. Boba’s Concussive Rocket
Leia's flash grenade should get a swap from officer's, the shield can be made that it deflects lightning, and Obiwan's mind trick can be changed that it makes the victims can only damage his own teammates for a few seconds?
Phasma's staff strike is definitely better than leia's grenade and squad shield
Actually, phasmas staff is really good, i have brought down heroes to half health with it
WAAYYY better. I've killed heroes multiple times using it. The knockback is sooo good. I think the long animation is what really brings it down. Also it isn't very good at galactic assault. In HVV it's ok but GA.. not really.
The only redeeming quality for Phasmas staff strikes is that card that reduces all her cool downs after 5 kills with them. It’s a really good card once you get there - her middle ability will always be available to use which is great with the care that gives her damage resistance
Ozzy what would you think about doing a video about the best hero/villain combo powerups? Like Luke's push and slam, or Anakin's pull and slam/retribution, or Kylo's pull and freeze.
Why not give Leia some of her force sensitive abilities from the sequel trilogy? Like maybe a brink of death health boost to reference when she saves herself in The Last Jedi?
Finally I see a video exposing how they killed obi wan with that nerf to his mind trick smh
He's still top teir he does not need to stop dodges
@@Xokken333 His mind trick is useless, if one of your teammates uses a force power like push or pull dominance. It completely cancels out his mindtrick letting the enemy team use their abilities even with the mindtrick still affecting them.
@@reeeee5399 it still has uses, it gives you time to recover stamina safely, use your rush ability safely, takes away hero abilities temporarily, which for some heroes is their only good means to kill you. Everything else about kenobi is already well above average he's already a tank he doesn't need more abilities for offense.
@@reeeee5399 to your point on other hero abilities cancelling out it's effects I agree this aspect could use removal since other heroes are able to chain most abilities with each other
If you hit an Iden using her Pulse Cannon with Restrictive Mind Trick there's literally nothing she can do. Just letting you know, because I learnt the hard way.
7:35 that’s not true, you can protect somebody who is on the objective, from snipers and others many uses
He is wrong about having one purpose, but his point is really how is this ability suppose to fit with Leia's playstyle or how it could be even useful in many stitutions
Andrea Salentino her shield is next to useless in hero modes
They need to give boba a flamethrower again to encourage boba players to also fight close quarters rather than be constantly distant. Also giving people more of a chance of killing boba
Remember when staff strike once knocked down enemy's?
the days when droid stun/+ 3 staff strikes
It still does my guy. If anything, the staff strike is her best ability. It can one shot blaster heroes and take about 75% of lightsaber health
TS Masked Does it not? Did they change that in like the last week or something
@@creed8712 it still does
@@liberationpocket6435does it knock heros to? If so is it the first hit or last hit that dose it?
Obi Wans mind trick is good on some units
An unfurled droideka will almost certainly die
It's one of the best ways to deal with commando droids as it disables they're dodges
Jet troopers are also vulnerable when hit
Everytime I hear a person call someone a sweat i feel they are just making excuses for being bad
Only time I'd call people sweats is when they all turtle in one tiny room because there getting shit on or camp ledges when they are losing otherwise they are just better than me:)
For leia, make her flash grenade blind AND invert controls for a time limit. Squad shield should have a bacta dispenser which regens allies in the shield AND block emperors lightning. Her rapid fire should have a damage buff and give her a damage reduction while active. Also, her pistol should have a secondary fire speed buff and a slight normal fire damage buff. Also have a card which is like officers presence card, wwhere allies near her get decreased regen delay and increased regen speed.
Shoulder charge has saved myself like a million times you just gotta be smart with it I've never died while using it, it usually ends the conflict with the knockdown.
From Prowess To Suc-cess it’s not bad, but other than abilities on this list I can’t think of one that’s worse
The officer's flash grenade is NOT better than Leia's. They literally swapped the officer flashbang and Leia's because the complete blind effect is soooo much better
Phasma’s strikes should be as fast as the commandos droids and caphex spies melee weapons
4:20 taking out the ability to dodge might aswell make Obi-Wan's mind trick an instant kill
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@@Etaiinso how would Boba, Bossk, Emperor, Iden and Phasma have a fair chance to avoid it, just like Vader, Maul, Kylo, Grievous and Dooku do?
@@tomh90s boba can use his jetpack regardless, kenobi already kills blaster heros with his mind trick regardless of having the ability to dodge or not. Same is said with any person who is competent with a saber hero in a 1v1 with a blaster.
@@tomh90s Boba can fly, Emperor can jump and shoot lightning, Iden could alt at ground and as for Bossk... Yeah he's fucked unless you gas yourself before he uses it on you as a shield. I don't think it would be OP, considering how so many of the dark side abilities are just as powerful.
@@tomh90s They could, but it would be hard, which is good considering I can't stand blaster heroes in Hero Showdown.
For some reason ever since they released Finn I’ve called dead-eye Finn bot
Man, Finn was so good on release, but after they nerfed him he's just kinda eh. He was my favorite when he came out though.
You can dodge the shoulder charges last animation by jumping
I use this every time I play as Han
How are you liking the pc version of the game?! I’m happy to see you switch over
The officer and Leia's flash grenades should be swapped. Then just buff the damage and revert only Leia's to the old white screen concussed effect. For the shield either completely rework it with something else or make it block force powers and allow her to shoot through it. Then those would at least be useful in HVV. I never really thought the E-11 for her was that bad but they could buff the accuracy and active time to round that one out more. All in all it's actually simple to come up with balances for Leia, I think the problem lies with the devs ability to execute. (Order 66)
Dooku’s expose weakness also removes bonus health like from Yoda and Finn
I think leias rapid fire is very good because u can get damage reduction with the right starcard
If you cant Dodge during Obi's Mindtrick you will lose with a Blaster or Palps, good that they changed it
Phasma’s Staff strikes are not as bad as you make it seem and it doesn’t deserve the #1 spot in your list. I have had many hero kills with her staff strikes, also note that the last hit has a knock down which enables her to easily finish off her enemies. Can’t believe you would put Boba’s concussion grenade higher than Phasma’s staff strikes.
Leia’s rapid fire is actually pretty good I would put Palpatines electrocute in instead
Palpatines electrocute is good, any stun is good lol
Iden Versios Pulse Cannon is more useless than Han Solos Shoulder Charge
i love this game.
I like how Finn has a holster for his small blaster, but it’s still empty even though he can use the blaster
I would switch Rey's ability with Han's.
Shoulder charge is good. Especially against Boba since you could take him out while he's down, it's also a good counted for lightsaber heroes a few times
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Why don't they just make Leia's Squad Shield block force powers? It will change up the meta of the game drastically and will actually give blaster characters a way to counter the constant rag doll effects that you can't protect against.
Actually Phasma's staff attack ability isn't all that bad now but I rarely get the kill count for the card that shortens the cooldown for all her abilities if you get five kills with it. That needs to be reduced to 3 kills
Leia isn't as bad as you describe her to be, the flash grenade, like you said has a star card to reveal enemies, which can help you find out if an objective is occupied, and if the map is out in the open you can deploy the squad shield, which helps your team gain the objective easier. You can also combo this by luring in villans and surprising them with her rapid fire. It's not that leia has bad abilities, it's that her abilities aren't used right, and a buff may make her too powerful.
I hate Leia's abilities, it makes her so useless except the middle one is somewhat okay
It's funny how many say chewbacca is the worst hero yet his abilities are quite good, but his blaster oh boy...
My problem with Leia is her secondary fire, It takes way to long to recharge it compare Iden keep spamming her TL-50 secondary fire since Iden’s secondary fire does splash damaged & it makes a lot of Damage
Iden needs a nerf. Her secondary fire can be used then immediately switch back to primary, basically allowing iden to infinitely fire.
Obi wans mind trick was easy to avoid before dodging was made possible .... just jump onto something and that's it 🤷♂️
Patsch ya that works for sabers users but the Gun hero’s should have just kept one roll or something. They totally killed the ability as is :/
@@gon9898 usually belaster heros should stay back ... that's the main mistake players can make... because then the mind trick won't even reach you
I feel like instead of rapid fire Leia should have some sort of stun/flash gun making her a complete support hero. Kinda like Phasma who imo can't really beat people head to head.
Undercover Team is only good for Galactic Assault, Hero Showdown, and Heroes Vs Villains! Finn really is Invisible on Enemy Radar's! I was being chased by Darth Vader once! I activated it and ran into a corner! He actually lost me and he was looking like where did he go?
there actually is an usage for obi wans mind trick for the ones who dont know. It is excelent at preventing rushes.Expecially a BX commando vibro blade rush,its not a big use but i have seen many bx players just wanna rush then i use my mind trick and they either flee giving me time to repozition or die because they are confused as to what is just happening
When saber heroes are in Landos smoke bomb their attacks don’t take as long distances
OzzyJedi:I don’t think Leia’s rapid fire is good..
Leia in Feb update: 😎😎😎
I think every hero should have a 4th ability. It could be like an ultimate ability from overwatch needing you to do certain things to charge it up.
i think they would change her flash grenade to a shock grenade and she should be able to shoot through her shield and have a 150 health buff while in shield
What game mode was he playing at the beginning
Expose weakness is pretty good tho. Combine it with the duelist ability and it’s amazing.
Obi Wan’s mind trick was good but then the community had to cry about it being too op
Bryan Torres Yep, I would understand if they gave gun hero’s one roll still because it was a free kill. But as it is now it is worthless.
They've been crying about Rey's even longer. Only a matter of time until they either take away the inverted controls or slow turn effect.
Rey needs to have her middle ability replaced to let her shoot lighting on extremely rare occasions
Leia's rapid fire has a lower DPS than her normal blaster...
i always use the shoulder charge to run away
Landos smoke disables lightsaber lock on in the field
Very useful for getting pushed
The mighty Jabba asks WHY he must change Leia's abilities...BECAUSE SHE'S HOLDING A THERMAL DETONATOR!!!!!!!
You could say that hans shoulder charge is *maclunkey*
OzzyJedi: "Your abillity is clunky..."
Han: "K thanks for ur opinion."
OzzyJedi: " *MACLUNKY* "
Han: **triggrd**
Obi Wan is very strong without his mindtrick but they just nerfed too much,just make the mind trick invert aim or something,every one is used to cooldawn
Makes his rush safe it's still useful