soldier in vr talks about surviving the final evacuation of Afghanistan
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2023
- i talk with a soldier about his experience during the U.S. military evacuation of Afghanistan in 2021
email - syrmors@proton.me
/ discord
🌎4am Waffle House - Ігри
This was an interesting interview about the closing days of Afghanistan, thanks for letting me sit in on it.
thanks for joining us it was interesting hearing about post-traumatic growth
Struggle you're my favorite recurring character in the srymor universe.
It was good to see you pop up, Master Skywalker
Always a pleasure seeing you in a video
hey struggle, i dont think you remember me but i joined your discord after that first video 2 years ago and talked for a while to you, how are you doing? would love to rejoin if you have a new discord up
Who knew a game where you can have insane player models and weird-ass roleplay could also be home to some of the most heartbreaking and somewhat-therapututic conversations of all time.
Location matters. Waffle House is where you got at 3am to talk philosophical while you sober up a little after last call. Feels right.
@@P2HTUSYP 😂😂😂
Favorite thing about driving a tow truck was the long hauls across state taking people back home. In just a few hours you learn new perspectives on life and for a few hours you both have therapy and when your done you never see them again. Your learn what you were meant to learn from those people and you remember it forever.
@@Anonymous-jy5ew I’ve heard some stories about Taxi drivers having a similar experience. Just talking to people taking cabs home or across town and getting to know them even though they’ll never see them again.
It’s really those interactions that make life worth living imo. You’re literally wasting time getting to know somebody you’ll never see again and yet you both grow from it.
@@Not_Ciel
The movie taxi driver is about this exact thing except it’s not in a positive way.
I'm a Vet, and I have a lot of stories from '06 to '08 in Iraq and contracting after I got out. I mentioned some of the stuff I went through on another video with two other Vets talking, a few months ago, I think? I'm surprised at how many guy's have stories about babies/kids... those are the worst. If I remember, I will try to get in contact with you Syrmor, if you're interested in hearing any of my stuff.
I definitely want to hear your stories on this channel. Didn’t serve, but I imagine we’re roughly the same age (graduated HS in 2006), and I remember how surreal some of the videos coming out of Iraq were. Dudes on rooftops, talking like me and my friends playing paintball. “I think he’s in that window, dude. Up more. Yeah!” I don’t think it’s a coincidence war movies got grizzlier, and dialogue stopped sounding like John Wayne around this time period.
**Pouring out heartfelt regret and sorrow about the past**
Syrmor:”…………ever seen a ghost??”
😂
Honestly though, that transition
"Did you pray?"
"...At the airport, did people pray?"
Fucking deep
Honestly really cool that Syrmor did that. Seemed like the dude was getting quiet and going into his head and if that's the place in your head... it's good to have someone there to pull you back out.
@@ClintEPereiraI’m glad I have a friend who does that to me when I pour my heart out to him. I get scared of going too deep, and then he ends up saying the dumbest shit that makes me have the hardest belly laugh instantly making me feel better.
@@crimsondynamo615 That's a good friend to have. You should let him know that you appreciate him for that.
lmao I love the deadpan delivery of "have you ever had a paranormal experience?" to cut the tension right after he described some traumatic shit
Good topic change to the paranormal to lighten the mood. Seemed random probably to most, but that was very tactical of you. Nice!
Yea, I was thinking the same thing. Really well done.
It seemed random and off topic, and then he brought it back with “did the people at the airport pray” and o was like damn that’s deep
“what’s the point in living ya’know? You gotta have some beliefs and hope that you’re gonna make it back.”
Favorite line from this
I remember being in infantry training when this happened. The instructors came out and told us all what happened, and to pay close attention to what we were learning, because some of the guys over there were just in the training cycle prior to mine and what we were learning might actually come into use with the way the world is right now. Sent chills down my spine, very eye opening.
Crazy how a lot of people in the military join to help and protect something, and they all come back and their worst stories are always the ones where they couldnt help, or couldnt protect what they wanted to.
If you think about it, these videos are kind of like impromptu podcasts and it feels much more relaxed and calmer, a much easier conversation, someone can just tell their story and everyone listens.
It was actually really comforting having Struggle included in this interview, having another vet involved as another person to relate to.
Kinda ironic that the guy was reserved about speaking to a "civilian" therapist, and yet completely opens up to a dude with a cat avatar in VRchat. Glad he worked it out in the end.
Honestly the anonymity and mood the vrchat gives just makes one release more of their burden
@@anyasilverash6053 Exactly this, also, in my own experience, i don't feel comfortable with psychologists
I mean having a therapist on your medical record fucks with your chance of moving up in the military, passing background checks with government jobs, and there still alot of people that view therapy as accepting that they are a victim
The comforting aura of the diner really helps with the mood
i volunteered to watch minor refugees that evacuated to my country and i will never forget letting them to use my phone to make sure their families were okay, some of them were separated at different bases in the country and some were still in afghanistan.. it was hard to communicate but one of them opened up about how the taliban shot her brother and showed me pics of him,, it was really an indescribable feeling esp when it was her birthday the same night
AS A VETERAN I WANT TO GIVE VETS ADVICE:
You can still talk to Chaplains for free. If you have Base/Post Access( and sometimes even if you dont) you can still reach out to them to talk and get the same service you would get while Active
rest in peace for those who died due to the whole situation
*uncomfortable silence after intense monologue*
Syrmor: Have you ever had a paranormal experience?
This is why I keep coming back for more. 😂
Tells experience in Afghanistan
Symor: “have you ever had a paranormal experience”
😂😂😂
My dad passed away in 2018. In 2022 I found out that the last Helicopter he ever piloted was left in Afghanistan and in a weird way, it ripped that grief open again for me. By that point, the helicopter was old. It was bound to be retired nearly any day. But I know that knowing it was left behind would have infuriated him. I know it's not quite on topic, but something about it and this video felt. Poignant.
Sorry for your loss and I thank your dad for his service. I know this is a four month old comment but I hope you're doing well man
@@USA0312 I am actually. Thanks. Better than I've done in a long time.
@@egomur Very awesome to hear man, hope you have a good week bro
There was a kid from my high school who graduated a couple years before me who was one of the marines who were killed at the airport during the attack. When he was brought back to the states his funeral procession went through our actual high school. The whole school gathered outside to see the flag wrapped casket in the slow driving hurst. It was a sad moment, yet you could argue there was some beauty seeing an entire high school come together to preserve his memory. We love and miss you Hunter, Semper Fi Marine
Rest in peace Corporal Lopez 🕊️
To the individual that was being interviewed, as a fellow soldier & brother just know I hear you, we hear you & we see you. You’re not alone, brother 🙏🏽 thinking about you and praying for you 🙏🏽
Him and that Anakin guy would be great friends. The one you covered about being a gunner.
Great to see struggle in the video with this wonderful fellow. Thanks to both of them for their service and on behalf of our country I formally apologize for the fact we couldn't do more for them. You guys deserve the best. Fuck the politicians and the politics. I hope you guys get the help you need. Much love from Michigan.
I just remembered your channel existed from one of your old videos, surprised on how you've changed you're format into something more... cinematic. VRchat has long since left the limelight but I'm surprised it's a game that hasn't changed in year but still allows for people to communicate in such a heartfelt honest way. Please keep up the good work, even if the views dont roll in like the uganda knuckles days
"... And the rich people'. Man. I want to know more about that part of it.
It’s always the rich people my dude. They always get priority over normal joes.
Heart goes out to all the marines who went through that day
What about all the civilians murdered by that ISIS psycho?!
What a difference in his demeanor between the start and end of this video
Thank you so much for everything you’ve done. You are the people i admire. I know there are stuff not everyone would understand. But i do
This dude is brave as fuck. Should go without saying given his choice of profession but still.
I have nothing but respect for this man.
I’m sorry for all the great people we abandoned over there 😢. Keep your heads up Marines!
Amazing as always, thanks
I watched that shit happen from Camp Humphreys. We werent on any updated readiness or anything. We were more concerned about enforcing the jab than anything else. Sorry you had to be there and Im sorry that we who came before you couldnt have made this unnecessary
Yeah, guy I know from school was in Kabul during the fall. He told me all about it at the pub when I ran into him.
His job was to take his team around the city to pick up "key allies" to get to the airport. VIP guys. He got maybe half of them, the Taliban got to the other half first.
He said the first few guys were easy, then he started seeing bodies in the street, then he started seeing Taliban in pickups and corralling civilians. By the time half of them were collected he got the message "pack it up and head back to base" when he asked "what about the other VIPs?" They just said "they're dead, get back to base"
Said he saw Taliban mag-dumping into crowds of civilians. Screaming and blood everywhere, bodies all over the roads. When the Taliban took a city that they say as siding with the enemy, they would just kill and kill and kill and slaughter the population so the survivors would submit without a fight. Then came the rapes and the burning.
He saw babies torn open on barbed wire. Mothers threw their babies over barrier walls hoping some soldiers would pick them up and put them on a plane. They didn't know there was just barbed wire on the other side.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Jesus Christ. I didn't know that. The media did not tell this site of the story. They kinda shown the Taliban as "not so bad".
This retreat was one of the new major sins of the West. They did not just abandoned people who trusted them, and destroyed every progress over their, they betrayed everyone that died over there.
God…I know this is sort of left field but I think I understand why some people like the idea of isekai in anime…a sort of escape from it all.
@@killzone014 Terrorists are isekai larpers. Master your reality so people can't weaponize it for you.
@@samwallaceart288I like that did you get that from something? that's a good way to put it all
Thanks for sharing this.
this is amazing
much respect for him and all involved
the military is wild
Kindness is hard.
you don't know the half of it
Dude the end was beautiful
Glad to see that not only struggle is doing better and has grown so much from 4 years ago, but also that hes still around helping others cope with what they went through and grow from it as well.
I hope all these vets understand that whatever happened over seas, they were the ones with a strong enough WILL to do or attept to do the right thing. We need your leadership here in the states now and forever. Keep you head up soldiers! Any soldier who feels bad about anything that happened, you need to understand thay those feelings are what make you strong and a good person. Don't you ever give up, not on yourself, your republic and our God.
I’m glad he started going to therapy! I hope he continues to heal
great interview
I love that Struggle is a recurring character now. Lol
Please keep doing this
@Syrmor I hope these videos are achieved online forever my dude.
Thank you for sharing
Heartfelt talk about prayer, break in the disclaimers
Struggle: "Fuck yeah waffle house" (i cracked a smile at struggle coming back)
I was one of the people that worked at the airbase refugees evacuated to during OAR. It was a crazy time....
Thank you for your service.
The PTSD this causes for our Soldiers is insane
😿 The comment about not wanting to tell civilian therapists about stuff, totally get it, makes a lot of sense. But I just want to say that there are therapists out there that specialize working with vets! 💛 Just in case anyone else needed any confirmation about this.
Some therapists are very capable of not jumping to conclusions and can stomach the content. I would say definitely not all therapists, and it may take some effort to find a competent therapists out there but they do exist.
Syrmor why does your voice sound so deep?
The question is:
Has anyone held accountable for the lost blood & treasure ?
No, and they never will be sadly.
Incompetent military commanders overseeing U.S. operations explains a lot now...
Sounds like a guy who watched a movie about it.
I reallly need to keep up with the news lol so busy fr
“…cool story bro… do you believe in ghosts?”
Heart breaking story
feelsbadman when soldier's last message was not do exactly what he was forced into doing through the war. falling towards the crowds of the military is what he had to do to make his life better.
what a shit circumstance
He's so in love with his wife aww
This is literally the kind of shit the state department tried to lock down. Lol.
why dose his mic sound like a walkie talkie thought the index and meta headset had good mics
4:01 "privately doxxed" seems ironic lol
I just don't get why they left Bagram Air Base. And that's coming from a Canadian. Complete air superiority for the evacuation but was left at night along with the equipment.
Because Biden is a moron led by Morons, or they left 83 billion dollars of gear on purpose.
I will never forgive them.
0:51 one of my major complaints about the military today is that we don’t let people do their job.
Your trained to handle threats quickly and efficiently but they completely ruin that by making you have to ask some higher up a question about something they have no idea the context of and ultimately it results in more people dying, if you could just do the job you’ve been trained to do instead of having to ask someone who more then likely is sitting behind a desk with zero combat experience wether or not your allowed to kill a obvious threat and they deny it because in their land of sunshine and rainbows they see you as the bad guy it’s ridiculous.
And these same desk jockeys wonder why recruitment is so low and why morale is in a constant decline and chalk it up to soldiers not being able to transition sexually.
instead of the real cause which is little to no VA support after your service and the complete utter disregard to the mentality of soldiers and denying them therapy and other medical treatments that have been proven to help people experiencing high stress and trauma but no instead they tell you to grab a bottle of Jack and a pack of cigs and tell you to deal with it and at the most offer to pay for the mutilation of your genitals and free hormone replacement which probably if I had to say is not the way of handling that.
( I would like to preference this because I know people will get mad at those statement’s by saying that yes I do realize that their are people that experience gender dysphoria and helping them is great and all but acting like that’s the fix all to everyone’s situation is ridiculous, when people have been trying to get the military for years now to approve types of therapy and treatment for the mental\physical issues of soldiers of which many of these treatments have been proven to actually help if not cure most of these issues of which these treatments have all been shot down or ignored by higher ups until most recently they allow for sex change therapy that if anything has shown to ruin more lives then it has fixed.)
Therapists and counselors don't prescribe medicine and they know what they're doing. If you're on the fence about it please try it out
Bravo
This is your friendly reminder that it was the former occupant of the White House that negotiated with the Taliban for the U.S. to withdraw from Afghanistan.
The man literally negotiated with terrorists.
Waffler House 🤗
oh wows
What character skin is he wearing?
Lol, the CIA lost its poppy fields for the heroin sales.
Always got Burma
This one's messed up
dude why this have not spanish subtitles?
What character is that
I really hope his story, and others like his, reach those that facilitated that debacle. The word 'debacle' itself cannot and does not encompass what this young man experienced, and I hope those scum-sucking politicians running their campaigns realize that.
10:57
how do you verify the guests are legit
He goes over it in great detail here: 4:00 how bad is your attention span dude?
@@_bug56 cum
@@7ohm. understandable, have a good day.
I think you would struggle to make more of a god awful mess of the evacuation, it just looked to me like America had learned nothing since Vietnam.
1st
Wow quick on the draw fr
Respect
@@MarcusAurelius7777 safety and peace ✌️ ☮️ sib
thanks biden -_-
b b but Trump was mean😆
To be fair, I don’t think there would have been any *good* way to pull people out. iirc they tried to keep it secret so that the taliban wouldn’t try attacking the base earlier or something?
My point is that I don’t think it would’ve mattered if it was Trump, Biden, Obama, etc. it still would’ve been bad. But Biden’s method most certainly couldn’t have been the best outcome 🙃
@@Not_Ciel The thing is, when Biden said, “It was three days ago, man!” after the failure of the evacuation, along with boasting about how “You won't see helicopters leaving the rooftop of the U.S. embassy,” is the stupidity of the highest order.
😭😭😭I willingly volunteered for a war and I didn't like it because it traumatized me😭😭😭😭
Got a virgin in the chat
Jesus fucking christ
Nice job, Biden.
Yeah, but unironically.
We needed to leave Afghanistan and Biden was just making possible what Trump already was trying to do(again, for good reason) and the military hierarchy made it a teeth grinding process.
The fact of the matter is that it was a war that wasn't designed to end anytime soon and so the results speak for themselves.
@@eddie142 Yup. A big waste of lives and time.
America lost the war and needs to get over it.
Classic biden
Thanks Biden 😂
Thank you Joe Biden
Biden’s Afghanistan.
this happened like 4 months after biden took office, and it was because of a negotiation from trump
Afghanistan was a failure from the start. This is Reagan's Mujahideen, this is Bush's war on terror, this is Obama's trooper pull out, this is Bidens capitulation. America failed, it was never there to succeed only sell guns
Bidens Saigon
@@slimslendy2591
You guys never had a chance in Vietnam
@@Gordozinho it's not about the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars themselves, it's about both of them having botched exits that cost the lives of several civilians and soldiers alike
Let's go Brandon.
These are always classic