Maximizing Expensive Material | Making a Bronze Bushing
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- I'm back! A few shop updates and some work on a vise I've been messing with for a while. Hopefully I'll get some motivation to make more videos- I really enjoy it but it's a lot of work and the world is falling apart, so I'm distracted.
Email me: AlwaysSunnyintheShop@gmail.com
your lathe is AMAZING...so beautiful. WOW...I am amazed. Good job for the video
I have always enjoyed your videos because you have a great looking and organized shop. Have been missing your videos. Glad to see your back with a great new way to shoot them you seem to always think everything through and come up with something no one else thinks of. Thanks again.
Thanks Mark that’s a very nice comment.
World may have problems but your approach and positive appearance is always a pleasure to watch. Fingers crossed for this year. I like the "incremental" camera shots of the machining. That works well.
Thanks that was a new editing technique for me- I’ll get better at it and use it instead of just speeding up footage for multiple passes like that.
That is a gorgeous piece of stock when it gets turned!! videos when you have time Aaron...we want you to enjoy the process as much as we do watching! Cheers...Wayne
I love turning bronze and brass- everyone's a hero with surface finishes with it!
A A Ron is back........We were all hoping you were okay......Glad to see Your OCD is in full effect....the new vise will be another master piece in the shop...
Thanks Paul- hopefully be bringing out some more content soon.
Glad to see your still around, (Cancel the search team) during my metal shop teaching years at Phoenix Union HS, producing bronze bushings was one of the requirements for students to graduate the class, until one day a student decided to use the surface grinder to size the width of the bushing, needless to say, it shot the bushing thru a solid Burch door, after that the school removed the grinder,...(Carl,...I'm still looking for you), actually,..Carl Ivester finished a successful career with NASA as a machinist/tool/diemaker,...who woulda known!!!
Nice video!
I'm always excited to see a new video from you. That is one hell of a camera stand. Love the look. I need one for my phone.
Very nice work! Your photography of the machining operations is also a joy to watch. Thank you for taking the time to video and share this content.
Welcome back, glad to see you back in the saddle....
That's going to make a very nice setup Aaron. I rebuild quite a few large gear boxes and from time to time I need to have the area where the bearings go built up do to bearings spinning on the shaft. Pretty large bearings, 6.375 shaft size. They machine them then hard chrome and grind to size. Hardness is around 60- 61 Rockwell. Also goes by industrial hard chrome. I think that would be a great option for your vise also. Always enjoy your videos. Gary
Great to see you again. From personal experience, the best way to feel a little better about the world is to get out into to the shop and occupy your mind with things you can control. 👍😎👍 Thanks for the update and taking the time to ‘film’ when you’ve got the extra energy. If it helps, maybe just film and add voiceover later in post when you’ve accumulated enough ‘footage’. I wish you the best.
Thanks Joel, that’s what I’ve been doing with this vise project- putting in my earbuds and letting the camera run without commentary. Relaxing for me.
"Future me will be mad at me" I found that statement to be true all too often in the machine world... I have made thousands of bushings in my 35 years in aerospace machining. I used to make 6 and 8 inch ID bushings with a .500 wall for landing gear. We would freeze them and set them in the housings to later be bored and honed. Made from all sorts of stuff but mainly bronze alloys.Trick to machining bronze is a good sharp tool. It is kind of abrasive on tools.
You're absolutely right- high positive rake and sharp as can be but the edge will break down.
Install a thrust washer on the spindle, makes them alot smoother.
That camera stand is a beast. Nice.
That is a nice stand. I believe Wiltons tolerance on their vise is in line with its expected use. Anything with a built in anvil is not intended to be super precision. :-) That is a super nice camera stand!
Nice to see you back
Always a good day when you drop a new vid!
Nice to see you again, good stuff as always. "Nils Desperandum". See you again soon.
Nice work. Nice heavy camera stand Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Hello Aaron,
Good to have you back. The Cambo studio stand will be a good addition to the workshop…
The vice project will be interesting as you do get a great blend of precision and visual appeal with all your projects.
Take care
Paul,,
Thanks Paul it’s been interesting so far and hopefully will turn out as nice as I’m planning.
If you were looking to save stock you should set the indicator at the end of the shaft & bump it to run sort of true. the recheck the other end.
I did that- the material wasn’t straight (it never is with bronze), so indicating near the chuck was the compromise.
@@AlwaysSunnyintheShop the better compromise would have been as Bruce Tuckey said
@@tsw199756 does not matter for in this case......has got lot of money to burn on camera stands....lengths of raw stock......and oils the chips while drilling !!!
@@NavinBetamax lol
I totally agree.. How to maximized material, starts by wasting a bunch of material by uneccesary turning. Just chop off what you needed for the bushing and leave the rest of the stock alone...
I always love working with brass or bronze, it’s so pretty!
I’m thinking you should have bumped the bronze bar so it was as close to being concentric at the tailstock end before center drilling!
Yeah I did bump it around, and it just wasn't behaving. Just had a bit of a banana curve in it. Didn't take off too much to get it mostly cleaned up.
@@AlwaysSunnyintheShop Why clean up the rest of the length of it at all? I would have indicated at the end where the part was taken from, and who cares what the stock is doing near the chuck?
Because making chips is fun. That, and next time I use this material I will have a center in one end that is true to the turned OD, making life easier next time.
If you trepanned to size and then parted off, you could have saved a lot of material...but the job is done. This is where I have said before, there are many direction to the place you want to be, but it is up to you to choose the road you want to travel. Welcome back, you were missed!!!
the piece hes working on was trepanned off an even bigger piece
Happy New Year and welcome back!
HI ARRON, WHEN I AM TURNING BRASS, BRONZ , I INVIRT THE TOOL AND RUN THE LATH IN REVIRSE, ALL THE CHIPS SHOOT INTO THE CATCH TRAY, OR ON THE FLOR.. REGARDS RICHARD.
Gday Aaron, the camera stand looks to be a really great setup, the bar stock machined up very nicely, it may be expensive but you only have to buy it once and it will be there for when ever you need it, as always I throughly enjoyed watching, take care, Cheers Matty
Thanks Matty!
Next time you true up a bar like that indicate the very end of the bar then center drill. Then rinse and repeat. Turn the bar between centers.
Nice studio stand. I like the type that have an arm that slides sideways to either side by about two feet. Preferably with lock out wheels. Haven’t used one since I retired.
Ok, since that is expensive stock, I would have centered the end more using a center rest, then tightening the chuck up bit, and after that, I would have drilled for a live center. Then you can remove the steady rest and tightened the chuck up a bit more, but not too tight. Taking light cuts, you could just have to remove a bit of metal. Honestly, that was off not by 10 thou, but by a good 60 thou..
Great vlog, impressive new camera stand!. Would a standard Oillite bush, and a steel sleeve achieved the required part!, I always look at standard bushings before purchasing non ferrous bearings.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks I did consider a premade bushing, but I needed a solid bar to make my new spindle collar anyway, so I just made this bushing with the same material.
Keep your head up a out the world, your content is appreciated btw
HI Aron, as a photographer i can suggest looking into a c-stand with a slide-out small boom-arm or so, much more compact, easy to use, big reach.
I thought about a C stand, but the base would be wider than my studio stand, and the legs not as low-profile. Would have been cheaper though!
Your camera quality is cristal clear. What camera are you using. It's amazing
Thanks I try to provide quality footage. I use a Nikon Z6 and on this video I processed the video at a higher bitrate to see if the extra computer time would improve the video on UA-cam. Let me know if you think it’s better quality than my other videos.
Hopefully Abom records the spraywelding of your video repair.
The great thing about cleaning up an out of round bar is the built in chip breaking ability ;) hey, I always look at the positive.
At least you don't get the stupid long stringers right?
Great vid. Have you seen Adam Booth true up long stock on a lathe? Just wondering. Keep them coming bud!
I enjoy your channel a lot. Me too got into machining as a hobby from watching abom79 and Stefan. But I have a much smaller lathe, Bernardo profi 550lz and a mill like the PM 25MV
enjoyed the video...thank you...
We have really missed you, kind Sir. We hope you'll be back soon.
Wow I've been trying to figure out exactly which kind of Monarch Lathe I purchased and yours is the exact one I bought, the color of mine is grey as it was repainted. Anyways, from my serial I know it was made in 1951 so it's not a model k, there are a few models from that Era, but I believe mine was one that started to make in 1950. Could you tell me which model yours is please?
Mine is a Series 60, made in 1952
@@AlwaysSunnyintheShop I was having issues figuring out if mine was series 60 or 61 because I was having a hard time finding info, even at the monarch site. I started to Google pictures but a lot had the wrong info. I almost emailed Abomb79 but then I found Keith Rucker's site with all the information about our machines and more, including using our serial numbers, but that narrowed me down to K, 60, 61, & another one. I knew from pictures mine wasn't a K, but thanks to coming across your video showing you new camera mount with that beautiful lathe of yours, I 100% knew we had the same make... I want to say THANK YOU for having the time to answer my question/comment and I've also subscribed to your channel as well!!! I also like the content of your videos too lol 😆, but again, I'm extremely thankful! Oh, one more question because I love the colors you've painted your lathe and I wanted to know if those were the original colors or ones you chose when you redid the lathe?
@@offyouselfsbuddy1683 the original color was the same green color as Abom's, but was repainted by an owner previous to me. I've repainted some areas with a matched paint I purchased from Sherwin Williams.
Couldn't you find a bushing close to that size to modify? We had bushing stock tubes in various sizes.
I needed material to make a spindle collar so I just made the bushing out of this material too.
Would indicating and bumping the far end after doing the end next to the Chuck not have removed some of the need for all that wasted material
Unfortunately not- the material was kinda banana shaped, so bumping the far end would have just ‘moved’ the low spot.
I've seen people use annular cutters to prevent turning the un-needed metal into unusable chips. You end up with a core and an outer ring, for future use. I've heard it needs good horsepower and coolant in steel, prob no need for 954 bronze
I think this method is called trepanning...
Did you save the chips for recycling, or did you dump it?
I don't separate them out so they just go to the metal yard as mixed steel. If I'm making a bunch of aluminum chips, I'll clean the chip pan and collect them separately, otherwise it's not worth collecting the different metals separately.
Aaron, perhaps a fixed steady would be a useful addition to your arsenal.
By fixed steady do you mean a follow rest that moves with the carriage?
@@AlwaysSunnyintheShop No, that's a follow rest. A fixed steady is fastened to the bed of the lathe and provides a 3 point support at one place on the job. Have a look at Cutting Edge Engineering and you will see it in use.
Ok I haven't heard it referred to as a 'fixed' steady before. Yes I have one, but it's not real easy to set up, so I went without.
Next time you're looking for bronze drop a note here - I've got upwards of a hundred pounds of random stock that never seems to be the size and shape I need and I'd like to see if it doesn't work for you too.
Thanks very much!
G'day just found your channel and subbed 👍🍻
Excellent, thank you!
What brand vise is very well made if a Wilton isn't. Just wondering...
It's not that they are junk or anything, it's just that they aren't precision-built. I have had a few with obvious casting flaws that should have been rejected but weren't. I would say Starrett made the best vintage vise- well designed and solid as can be. I'm not getting rid of my Wiltons anytime soon, though...
Lol. I'm hanging on to a couple myself. Both of them very old but still very solid! Whew! Never thought about a Starrett! I'll bet they're expensive! I really enjoy your videos. You really keep an excellent shop! It's hard to do but can be done! Big thumbs up!
Thanks very much, James!
Did you use the studio stand for any of the footage in this video? I'm really curious, as the reach doesn't seem that long. Thinking about making one, so just trying to learn from others first.
Hi John. Yes, I filmed this video with the stand. The reach isn't amazing, but I filmed the start of fixing that problem today 😀. Since I can put the stand on the backside of the lathe, the shortish arm of the stand is ok, but I'll be making it longer.
I guess another cheaper option would be to collect or get some brass from the nearest shooting range and cast it into a rod, like a metal pipe or something, but then you would need the equipment for melting it
Yeah that's a whole other ball of yarn- very cool stuff though.
Do you mind sharing what you do for your day job?
I love and hate working in bronze (and brass). I love how easy it cuts. I hate how it goes EVERYWHERE (and the little bits of swarf are sharp!)
And know EXACTLY the "filming is different from doing work" part. I do get out and do work in the garage. I don't film much.
Yeah I think I’ll be finding those tiny shards for months! Sprayed absolutely everywhere!
To control chips on lathe work, position a suitable sized paint brush to trap/deflect.
Kind of a big vise for making watches.
Pretty chips!!!
You could have indicated the end you were going to turn and saved material and added a steady rest.
The material was curved so indicating the end would have just moved the low spot. I thought about using the steady rest but it’s so big and heavy I avoid moving it.
I would definitely buy that camera stand,....however if my wife discovered it, I'm afraid she would want to hang a bunch of Laundry on it to dry,...just like the day I caught her using my Starret 6 inch ruler to open paint cans,...geeeezzz
Grounds for divorce...
i could watch brass and bronze get shiny all day. clickspring should be classified as porn.
Ha yeah I agree!
Yup! Garden videos take twice as long to film as to just do... Shop videos take 4 - 6 times...
Nice piece of bronze. You don't really need cutting oil for brass or bronze.
nice...
Must have a great paying job to have that kind of a shop just for UA-cam.
Well, I get paid fairly for what I do, I think, but the shop is pretty much self-funded with tools I restore and I do take in paying jobs that I use my machines and tools on.
It look like the camera stand who rotarysmp is making!
Yes, i was thinking the same.
But the one from RotarySMP will be better than this one, because he will build a long reach extendable side arm on his one.
I'm taking heavier cuts on my ML7 LOL
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There are few occasions when a non marine part needs to be solid bronze. Oilite bronze bushings are good inexpensive bearing. You can combine simple bronze bushing with a steel bushing to fit anything. I would avoid the spray welding and put oilite bushings in the vise to get a great fit. It will be vastly better than new if you do.
If the size you need is available in an oilite bushing, I'm all for them. I like aluminum bronze as it wears better, and another part that will come out of this bar is a spindle collar so I needed a solid bar anyway.
Nice Job but it stinks seeing that Aluminum Bronze go to chips, been there.
looking at the camera stand got me thinking : thumbs.static-thomann.de/thumb/thumb250x220/pics/prod/210883.jpg
thats a high end mike stand , it doesnt have the counterweighted height ajustment but it does have the heavy low profile foot and will hold sumting the size of a canon digital camera (if you take off most of the overhead boom of the mikestand) and all the stuff around it , you can use camera clamps to tie the externals to the boom
Yeah those are good, too. I just wanted something sturdier that wouldn't easily move with a bump against it.
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So you bought the $10000 stand everyone else is building, hehehehe
I hadn’t seen anyone building one. I thought about making one myself but just in materials I would spend more than I did for this one, so it was an easy choice.
@@AlwaysSunnyintheShop I saw Alexander Chappel build one from 3d printed parts recently and then RotarySMP started machining also one on his Maho mill, You can check their channels, good stuff too.
Let me see that car!
Hiya Aaron
Why in the world did you buy a solid piece ! You could have gone to McMaster carr and bought one closer to the I'd and probably. 6 inches long , nice work but a waste of time and money
Hi Aron greatings from Hungary
Love your channel content
Look up cavemanwelder on instagram for ideas on vise repars
Thanks for checking out the video! Yeah I have been chatting with Alex about some of my procedures- he’s a really good dude.
Чересчур много пустой болтовни. Не надо ничего объяснять, надо делать и снимать так, чтобы было понятно без слов.