Can a Roofer Turn a Profit Charging $260/Square in 2025? Heated Debate

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  • @RoofingInsights3.0
    @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +3

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  • @OmarCardena-v5h
    @OmarCardena-v5h 7 днів тому +23

    This is the type of company’s who will never get back with the customer to fixe mess they leave behind.

  • @willysolis5337
    @willysolis5337 5 днів тому +8

    In Texas there are crews making only $70 per square. Its too low but thats what they charge including the dump fees. The reason they can make that work is because they arent paying Workmans Comp and if they have general liability insurance it usually isnt the right type of coverage for roofing. The company that hires them makes them sign paperwork saying they will have WC and GL to cover themselves but they dont do compliance checks so the sub either cancels or defaults on the coverage or keep the coverage but dont have the proper one. The roofing company only carries GL and doesnt pay for WC. In Texas WC isnt required like it is in Florida.
    This guy is only in business until something bad happens. He wont have enough to stand behind his work or cover the liability of a work injury.

    • @decabello67
      @decabello67 2 дні тому

      It called supply and demand.....a natural law that exist for a reason. Their are people that are will to charge $70, and their are people that willing pay $70. WELCOME TO THE LAND OF FREE ENTERPRISE. Why would we want it any other way????

  • @dx9506
    @dx9506 7 днів тому +32

    This is why every state should require a license for roofing contractors.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 7 днів тому +6

      @@dx9506 what does requiring a license do, nothing. Just adds more government interference. There are plenty of licensed roofing contractors ripping people off.

    • @Jamesrosario2348
      @Jamesrosario2348 7 днів тому

      ​Having a license protects the customer with a 25,000 fund recovery right. So if you abandon your project without honoring your warranty or if you abandon your project the job will be refunded to the customer by the state. Dishonesty fraud misconduct can all get the customer a refund. By choosing a licensed contractor you don't have to worry about him having touch children. You don't have to worry about your contractor having committed violent felonies that's why background checks are done at roofing companies when you're hired unless unlicensed sheisty roofing companies like yourself hire felons. I can keep going bud a licensed contractor is able to do provide bids for a insurance bid. You obviously are ineligible to even get a license cuz you're probably a felon you probably touch children and that's why you're defending it to your grave unlicensed contractors like to use crappy materials unlicensed contractors will defend it until the day they finally get a license now they're all against unlicensed contractors​@@ToddBizCoach

    • @dx9506
      @dx9506 7 днів тому

      @ToddBizCoach At least then his business model of using a local companies name to sell jobs would be illegal and he would have to be a salesman under the local companies license. Therefore his multiple state con game wouldn't be feasible. His entire story sounded made up, as dishonest people typically become angry when questioned beyond the surface level.

    • @jesselambright1005
      @jesselambright1005 6 днів тому +3

      License doesn't have anything to do with it.

    • @dx9506
      @dx9506 6 днів тому +1

      @@jesselambright1005 There seems to be a lack of business law education in these comments.

  • @manifestmetalroofing
    @manifestmetalroofing 7 днів тому +12

    Forget not charging enough-this guy’s inability to stop interrupting, will be his greatest obstacle in achieving long-term business success. Listen…

  • @timothyAreeves
    @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому +8

    I'd also like to point out that any company paying their subcontractors less than $100 per square for a 7/12 pitch or under on a single-story roof is taken advantage of them. If Texas adopts Florida's criteria and standards for starting a roofing business, many Texas roofing companies will go under.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому +1

      @@timothyAreeves explain why paying a sub less than $100/sq is taking advantage of them? There are many companies across US, including FL, where subs flourish getting paid a fair contract of less than $100/sq.
      Our subs,4 to a crew, can complete a 24-25 sq , 7/12 pitch or less in one 9 hour day. They get paid $65/sq X 25=$1625 per job. How they pay the helper and tear off guy is up to them.
      Subs with the right business organization, legally and job organization are earning a good living doing 200-225 jobs per year. 200 times $1625/ job = $325k. Explain how that is not enough money!

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      @ToddBizCoach Subcontractors aren't thriving at rates of $65 to $80 per square. In places like Florida, it's impossible to complete a house in under nine hours due to inspections -- you'll inevitably have to come back the next day to finish, no matter how you approach it. With a minimum rate of $100 per square, that should also cover the cost of providing a dump trailer and hauling waste to the landfill. Anyone paying less than that is absolutely taking advantage of them. Skilled subcontractors who deliver excellent work deserve to be stolen by companies that truly value their effort and pay them fairly.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому

      @ you don t know how to schedule inspections if you are not closing in a roof daily. I have worked in FL with no problem with inspections. Not every municipality is the same.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому

      @ I get it. You can t answer why $65/ sq is not enough so you move on to dump trailers and inspections.
      Don t confuse your issue with inspections with subcontractors ability to work and be profitable.

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 5 днів тому

      @@ToddBizCoach Funny enough, I actually sold my roofing company to private equity in 2023, and I've worked in just about every county in Florida. Name three counties or municipalities where you can get a full roof inspection done within a day -- I bet you can't. Let's put money on it and call anyone you want: Brevard County? Volusia? Dade? Orange? Polk?
      As for pricing, I didn’t change a thing. For $100+ per square, they include dump trailers. Straight labor goes for $95 per square. Anyone paying less than that is ripping off the crew. I’ve taken plenty of crews from other contractors like you in the past -- because you rip them off. Just own up to it.

  • @stick8294
    @stick8294 6 днів тому +7

    I talked to Jesse earlier this week about his business model. It went the same exact way. I told him his math wasn’t mathing. Super emotional guy. Cuts you off, tells you it’s in the name of god, gets emotional and shuts down. He threatened to come to my market and shut me down in the states I’m in, while in the same breath asking me for work. Watch out for this guy.

  • @marycentanni2687
    @marycentanni2687 7 днів тому +8

    Dimitri, you are 100% right. He or the company that he is working with will not make it through the Workmen’s Comp. audit . If they do make it through, they’re not reporting the correct labor cost. Thank you for your videos.

  • @timothyAreeves
    @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому +9

    I don't think he realized you were trying to help by giving him a heads up. He's upset because he believed his business model was brilliant but didn't think it all the way through. God love him.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому

      @@timothyAreeves are you naive enough to think that the interviews are unedited? This was an edited biased interview. There is no reward for people having success with this business model to be interviewed.

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      @ToddBizCoach Oh, so there's more to his business model than we heard here? Dimitri was right about the audit -- who's covering the workers' comp? I already knew the numbers inside and out across different states.

  • @dianarice8073
    @dianarice8073 6 днів тому +5

    He said this is good advertisement- I said yeah for the Dept of Labor and IRS 😮

  • @vincentmarro1396
    @vincentmarro1396 7 днів тому +11

    Impossible material is $190 a square sub rate is $125 a square plus dumpster. Raw cost is $335 a square.
    Owner has to charge atleast !480 a square to stay in business

    • @shieldroofingsystems
      @shieldroofingsystems 6 днів тому +3

      That's just not true in Texas. Material cost is closer to $160 a square and labor starts at $70 for a single story, low slope w/ trailer. That's $230 a square cost. When I started 4 years ago, crews were only $60 a square with trailer. The crews I use have been working for generations. They set the prices. Texas is different than nearly any other state. Heavy saturation in the market and I know for a fact materials are cheaper here. Larger businesses negotiate sub $100 a square for shingle based on volume.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому

      @@vincentmarro1396 obvious you are not an owner. No one pays $190/sq for materials unless you don t know what you are doing.

    • @vincentmarro1396
      @vincentmarro1396 6 днів тому +1

      @@ToddBizCoach bro you obviously have no clue. That is too tier pricing. You can’t beat it. In CT and I’m talking about everything step flashing material to flash chimney shingles ice and water nails paper pipe boots drip and rake edge

    • @vincentmarro1396
      @vincentmarro1396 6 днів тому +2

      @@ToddBizCoach biz coach lmao everyone is a coach now a days lol no one wants to own companies they want to say I’m a coach lmao. I been in business 20 years calm your horses of course I am a owner son

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 6 днів тому

      @@shieldroofingsystems get a new supplier, OC Duration is $100/sq or less when buying by semi load.

  • @bigbadbuilderllc
    @bigbadbuilderllc 3 дні тому +1

    I charge starting at 300$ a square plus materials new construction. Reroofs starting at 500$ plus materials and dump fees.
    Is this going to get me where I want to go?

  • @tonymunoz201
    @tonymunoz201 7 днів тому +8

    @IRS
    @OSHA
    Enough said. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
    As a 100% naturalized Mexican, he never even brought race into it. He pulled that card on Dmitry so fast. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +1

      he keeps calling me "racist" for home depot comment

    • @Deckroth
      @Deckroth 7 днів тому

      @@RoofingInsights3.0 calling you racist yet throwing out the phrase wetb*cks. Sounds awfully passive aggressive to me.
      This is what adhd meds do to your brain. He’s on adderall or something lmao

  • @Johrudlms
    @Johrudlms 4 дні тому +3

    Homie was about to start crying when them numbers started getting called out🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

  • @pika96
    @pika96 6 днів тому +9

    red flag: guy writes estimates on the side to start his day? No one that is rolling in it wants to dive into Xactimate to kick off their day.

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      True. And to do a proper Xacimate estimate takes time !

    • @roque2ezequiel
      @roque2ezequiel 6 днів тому +4

      @@timothyAreevesI mean at $260/sq does he really need to write a proper estimate lol

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      @roque2ezequiel LOL definitely not - that's a solid point.

  • @jasonesmail9786
    @jasonesmail9786 3 дні тому +1

    Dmitry this was an excellent concept of a video. Please interview more roofers on their business models.

  • @orlandogalvan2595
    @orlandogalvan2595 6 днів тому +3

    If he’s paying the workman’s comp his labor cost would go up to $90-$100 depending on rate and he said his material cost is $120 with accessories that’s $210-$220 job cost and he’s paying the company he is representing 30% of the profit Wich would be $10-15$ which would leave a total profit of around $20-$25 a sq unless he pays 30% off the top of the job then he would owe money. Off of a 9200 sq job he would make about $200k assuming nothing went wrong also I didn’t include GL so that would also be a factor

  • @isaacigamcompany
    @isaacigamcompany 7 днів тому +13

    You said it very well. He’s pimping these crews out. These subs just want busy work and job security he’s gives them that but at a costly return. He’s taking advantage of them and when the first accident comes he won’t have money to cover accidents or mistakes.

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +4

      Thank God someone sees it that way. When someone is too cheap, it’s my job to teach them how to bid profitably.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 7 днів тому +2

      @@RoofingInsights3.0how do you determine what is too cheap? Why do you place on a company owner your values what a company should make?
      There are plenty companies out there living profitably off $1500-$2000 gross profit per job per day.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 7 днів тому +2

      Since when is paying a sub $65-$75/sq pimping them out?

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +3

      @ on a 3 story apartment with them providing dumpsters you think $70 is enough? Do they have money for work comp? That’s the most important question

    • @Jasonfry15
      @Jasonfry15 6 днів тому

      ​@@RoofingInsights3.0most crews in residential are sub contractors. They have a certificate of insurance for work comp and liability. It does not actually cover any of the workers and the businesses know that.

  • @moldsquadrestorationcontra6252
    @moldsquadrestorationcontra6252 4 дні тому +2

    Cant stand people that never take accountability. When the facts prove otherwise.
    This guy is a dumbass...
    He exposed himself dimitri.
    They think they know. But they dont.

  • @CristianSalmeron
    @CristianSalmeron 6 днів тому +1

    For the Savannah-Pooler, GA area $70/sq seems like a reasonable number for a crew with adequate insurance coverage. Dump run in the area is about $4/sq. I recently did a race to the bottom price matching exercise with one of my local competitors (owned by private equity) to see how low they would go. They won. We threw in the towel at $285/sq. lol I can see how they can go that low if have some really good buying power and are pushing high number of squares. I would definitely argue it is not good business to price things that low constantly though.

  • @ditchcati
    @ditchcati 6 днів тому +2

    In large city in Florida one can get $80 to $85 sub crews with no insurance and $115 to $125 sub crews with all of the insurance on residential reroof homes.

  • @roofonerestoration1700
    @roofonerestoration1700 7 днів тому +5

    I'm I missing something? 260 for materials and labor? Not that that's too low to begin with BUT there is a profit he splits on top of that?? Feel sorry for the crews AND the customer(s) who will eventually get screwed when things catch up and the ponzi crashes and he disappears

  • @jonathonbroce
    @jonathonbroce 7 днів тому +7

    Its hard to believe that this pricing model is sustainable for a long term strategy.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 7 днів тому

      @@jonathonbroce do the math using subs if you can’t grasp the numbers.

    • @jonathonbroce
      @jonathonbroce 7 днів тому

      @ not sure what your comment is saying.
      My perspective is that I agree with Dmitry on this one. There is no room for Workers Comp audits from either the Crew, Roofing Company or the prime sub contractor. This feels like a missed opportunity for money to be lost somewhere in the equation in this business model.
      $60 a sq to crew there is not enough money to pay work comp and pay the crew a decent wage.
      (Unless we are not paying above board at the sub level with proper GL and payroll taxes)
      Prime Sub, making 20% off the top of the contract (70% of the profit - $50 sq) would not have a much room at all to pay the comp on the project. (Profit $1500)
      Roofing company making 30% of the profit (7.69% of contract $20) does not have room for paying for the work comp. (Profit $600)
      Texas uses payroll amounts and not gross receipts. 🧾
      So someone in the labor supply chain will catch this audit. More than likely the Crew catches the audit and is grossly underinsured on work comp.
      I found conflicting info on the work comp rate in Texas. Looks like they raised the base NCCI code 5552 to $35 per $100 in September of 2024.
      Source: visionarylawgroup.com/workers-comp-rates-for-construction/#:~:text=For%20instance%2C%20roofers%20(class%20code,dangers%20associated%20with%20electrical%20work.
      So let’s do an example.
      $60 a sq.
      30 sqs
      $1,800.00
      6 man crew
      $300 per day per man.
      Make it $250 (crew company keeps $300 for profit 17%)
      $1500 of payroll x $35 (35%)
      $525 comp cost on that job.
      Company held $300 to cover it.
      -$225 profit in work comp audit.
      So unless they are paying the crew members less than $10 an hour it is not mathing for me.

  • @jimthompson9929
    @jimthompson9929 6 днів тому +2

    He doesn't seem to want to see that 260 is too low. I am curious who charges the most per square going into 2025?

  • @weplayitall
    @weplayitall 5 днів тому +2

    in our area it $125-$150 a sq in michigan to get a installer with no dump, they would want us to provide a dumpster or trailer but dump fee with trailer isnt to much about $10 a sq would cover dump fees, but to only pay people $60-$70 a sq. they surely have no over head, insurance, workmans comp, our area its $450-$550 a sq labor and materials but have seen people at as low as $380 a sq. but there not using american labor they have a whole mexican crew who barely speak english , so thats where alot save as there using people who will do stuff cheap but expect lots of call backs as they do very bad work to be cheap and get done fast, they will come out with 8 people get job done in a day but as for it being correctly install they dont care about that longs it looks good enough to get paid is all they care, so when roofs blowing off as seen that alot as they might not even nail areas,

  • @lmartinez9902
    @lmartinez9902 7 днів тому +7

    out here in Cali cost of materials with accessories ranges from 220-250 per sq depending on the job with all these damn increases

    • @knightsrncorlando
      @knightsrncorlando 7 днів тому

      Same in Florida how can you charge this much with labor and materials

  • @andrewmasters1808
    @andrewmasters1808 6 днів тому +6

    That roofer is a race to the bottom. 3-4 months is crazy. Guys like this will be out the game in no time once he really understands he is broke. After he gives the other company 30% which is $21 of his $70 he makes he really makes $49 a sq profit. After he pays his taxes hes got nothing. Good luck. Dimitri why did you interview him?

    • @dianarice8073
      @dianarice8073 6 днів тому

      Yes the newness will sober him but to me it is a little like a Ponzi scheme like I feel like he’s rotating the funds from his left hand to his right.

  • @Roofvana
    @Roofvana 6 днів тому +3

    Please do a followup report after the worker comp audit. Please.

  • @maddillz
    @maddillz 7 днів тому +3

    they pay premiums up to 20% in Texas on workers comp. Yeah this guy will not be around too much longer.

  • @ProPerformanceRoofing
    @ProPerformanceRoofing 6 днів тому +3

    Emotional business owners really show themselves. No different in normal life.
    Told us his model, asked to get chopped up and did and even contradicted himself with his statements.
    Good luck brotha, brotha….brotha, brotha 😂

  • @winjohn777
    @winjohn777 5 днів тому +1

    In Florida his crews would be done. $250 per head not on company payroll for unlicensed roofing subs for first offense. $500/$1000 for second and third offense. Three strikes you are out. We are audited annually for worker’s comp and liability. All based on revenue and payroll. Good luck with Florida.

  • @WeFindSimpleSolutions
    @WeFindSimpleSolutions 7 днів тому +5

    He’s very defensive, he likely knows that this is a super short term plan at best, ultimately it cannot work.

  • @pro-choiceroofing5244
    @pro-choiceroofing5244 5 днів тому +2

    I agree with you. He think is smart but it's not. The worst think is that he is taking advantage of his crew. If he is paying $60/SQ assuming the dump fee is only $10/SQ keep in mind that there is no profit on dumpster so from $60 his crew will need a minimum of 30% to survive in business. 15-20% over cost not including work comp, and 10-15% profit. So where is the money left for this crew to pay work comp for his employees? Work comp is usually 30-40% minimum. Anyways, this guys is going to screwed up his guys and himself. This is not a sustainable business. They only way he can make money is by being dishonest, meaning not paying taxes, not paying work comp, not paying labor workers a fear wages. This is not new I see guys like this all the time that miss up business and looks good contractors bad because eventually will leave a mess. Because of this type of contractor Minnesota implemented this new law called HF4444 at least here in Minnesota he won't be able to do for $260 now.

  • @renurenovationsllc7780
    @renurenovationsllc7780 4 дні тому +1

    Math doesn’t lie, he is setting up to drive prices down and make it unprofitable for everyone to to quality installs.

  • @lawtonbowers7780
    @lawtonbowers7780 5 днів тому +4

    This guy is apart of the problem

  • @Squidwd
    @Squidwd 7 днів тому +9

    Come on it’s just common sense , this guy is nuts .

  • @TheGolfster3
    @TheGolfster3 7 днів тому +3

    At these prices per square the contractor should go solicit and work for insurance companies...they would love him. The method this sub is employing is not new. Pulte Homes employs a similar methodology when it comes to its' subs; pays them barely enough to survive but puts food on the table, with the focus being on bulk. The subs chasing this way of life will always be in the position of robbing Peter to pay Paul, but eventually they get worn down and either leave the business for good or go out of business (assuming they even have a business structure in place).

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому

      I think it’s going to be interesting to see how he progresses.

  • @vincentmarro1396
    @vincentmarro1396 7 днів тому +4

    Listen IMO no roofer pays true true roofers comp per every man on that job site. To be true true true roofing workers comp you would need $680 a square

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  6 днів тому +1

      We'll see how the numbers work out for him and his partners

  • @kellystitzer7171
    @kellystitzer7171 6 днів тому +3

    We averaged $800 - $900/sq. the last 2 years. No ligitimate company would charge $260/sq. Volume means nothing if you are not making money on every sq. you install. This guy is full od shit!

  • @callmedpo
    @callmedpo 6 днів тому +2

    His crew pay is probably set up like this
    2 Ground people- $100-$125/day
    4 Nailers- $150-$250/day (depending on experience)
    Putting on at least 26-40square a day…
    This is already cheap rates anything cheaper than this is borderline slave labor

  • @Noname23489
    @Noname23489 2 дні тому +1

    How do I figure out how many squares my roof is

  • @davidfletcher6021
    @davidfletcher6021 7 днів тому +4

    Workers comp for roofing is $14 for every $100 pd. Then you have Gen Liability, at avg 5% of sales.

  • @Jahazielbg
    @Jahazielbg 6 днів тому +1

    Dmitry, no matter what you said in his mind he is right and there was no room for anyone else. I hope he gets a good accountant or someone to whip up a simple excel showing why it doesn’t work long term. Long term players understand risk management.

  • @Lonestar_RoofingOR
    @Lonestar_RoofingOR 4 дні тому +1

    I’m confused, is he paying $70/sq on new construction or is that his price for a reroof?

  • @theroofguru807
    @theroofguru807 7 днів тому +5

    If I'm a residential retail roofer doing 800k a year. And I out of pure luck sell a 2 million dollar commercial job does that make me a 2.8 m dollar company ? I don't get it

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      If you can do that for 4 years , then yes.

    • @richardfabery4765
      @richardfabery4765 6 днів тому

      Dude seemed like he was trying to make himself believe

    • @theroofguru807
      @theroofguru807 6 днів тому +1

      Well this guy did it in 3 weeks bro

    • @timothyAreeves
      @timothyAreeves 6 днів тому

      @@theroofguru807 Yes, but you need to prove it's not just a fluke. Years ago, my company hit $46 million in revenue after a major hurricane. However, the following year it dropped to $28 million before rebounding the year after. To secure a valuation based on that $46 million, I would’ve needed to sustain that level for four consecutive years. I ended up selling it in 2023.

  • @roofrepairshtx
    @roofrepairshtx 3 дні тому +1

    Dmitry tell us facts. Texas is a different market. Don’t hate on something you can’t prove.

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  2 дні тому

      Prove me wrong, educate me, let’s do a zoom but don’t leave when I ask work comp question!

  • @jadenlovin5114
    @jadenlovin5114 6 днів тому +2

    Hey Dimitri, I’m 25 and started a new roofing company and have just finished my first year in business. I’d love to consult with you about my prices and if I’m at a good mark or not and maybe get some advice.

  • @chriskimandchloe9397
    @chriskimandchloe9397 5 днів тому +3

    Just him saying I’m not dumb. I’m not a Mexican or a wet**** I’m not dumb just shows what he thinks of his crews. And that’s why he takes advantage of them.

  • @dianarice8073
    @dianarice8073 6 днів тому +1

    You were not rude disrespectful or interrupting him. He just couldn’t make the numbers number. 😢

  • @joeljohnson9583
    @joeljohnson9583 7 днів тому +5

    Only if you yourself are doing the work with no overhead and employees

  • @markbonnell1036
    @markbonnell1036 7 днів тому +2

    Your 100 percent correct demitry

  • @dianarice8073
    @dianarice8073 6 днів тому +1

    I was waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out and say you’ve been Punked lol 😂

  • @decabello67
    @decabello67 2 дні тому +1

    It called supply and demand.....a natural law that exist for a reason. Their are people that are willing to charge $70, and their are people that willing pay $70. WELCOME TO THE LAND OF FREE ENTERPRISE. Why would we want it any other way????

  • @StevanVelazquez-c6r
    @StevanVelazquez-c6r Годину тому

    I would like to share my experiences regarding Jesse. During my time working on a job site in Tennessee, I encountered several concerning behaviors from him. He not only undermined his team but also attempted to manipulate the situation to his advantage. He proposed purchasing my company and disparaged my business partner, all while offering me a position with a base salary of $250,000 plus bonuses. This was quite surprising, considering he previously struggled to reimburse me for a $156 expense I incurred for materials.
    I believe Jesse possesses strong sales skills and is well-versed in the industry language, but I have serious reservations about his ethics. He has a tendency to take advantage of others if given the opportunity. Additionally, he was removed from the job site due to his contractors lacking the necessary skills, reflecting poor business practices.
    In response to your earlier question, it seems that you were not attacking him; rather, you were presenting factual information regarding financial matters, which he clearly found unpalatable.

  • @Scottp0387
    @Scottp0387 2 дні тому +1

    How do you even understand that guy???? Aside from the bad connection he talks way too fast. I’ve been in the industry 9yrs and I’m right there with you Dimitri, him and those companies are in for a very rude awakening. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @rbrothersrestoration3480
    @rbrothersrestoration3480 7 днів тому +3

    Not if your licensed and insured while paying your installers a good per square wage.

  • @strongroofing
    @strongroofing 7 днів тому +9

    No one is paying works comp!

    • @grandroofing1604
      @grandroofing1604 7 днів тому

      And GL.

    • @ToddBizCoach
      @ToddBizCoach 7 днів тому

      How would you know?

    • @grandroofing1604
      @grandroofing1604 7 днів тому +1

      @ not enough money

    • @clearviewexteriors3896
      @clearviewexteriors3896 7 днів тому +1

      20 sq x 260= 5200
      Materials $140 sq at discount is $2800
      Workers comp $5 hr x 6 guys at 8 hrs =$240
      Liabilty insurance $200
      Dump fees at $100 ton is about $400 plus truck and gas getting there.
      Payroll tax depends state?
      Tearoff $20 sq =$400
      Install $20 sq=$400
      So the crew gets screwed and the company will lose and go out of business. This has no over head in it. This guy is a sure way to fail you, your employess and your customers. Greed kills dreams!

    • @protexroofing5939
      @protexroofing5939 3 дні тому

      No WC required in TX

  • @derekhaller7435
    @derekhaller7435 6 днів тому +1

    Was this price for tear off/ re roof or new construction?

  • @brysonbates6757
    @brysonbates6757 7 днів тому +8

    I’ve been fb friends with this guy for a while and they post drama all the time. Just a few months ago they talked about how they had to file for bankruptcy and lost everything bc they got screwed by a contractor . Just seems he prays on new companies that don’t know any better.

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +6

      I’ve been friends with him on Facebook for years. The guy has always been broke-and the problem with many who struggle financially is that they often carry the most toxicity. Somehow, they remain self-righteous, constantly hiding behind phrases like, “I’m not in it for the money,” or “I’m not greedy.” Yet, when things fall apart, they’re the first to beg for help.
      It’s a strange cycle-going from broke to broke while always preaching about God. I believe in God, but I don’t believe in settling for the bare minimum or glorifying financial struggle.

    • @stick8294
      @stick8294 6 днів тому

      He asked me for money like a month ago. Told me he lost everything. I had only known him a couple weeks. He’s a very emotional guy. When he shared with me and my partner his business model I said the same exact thing to him as Dimitry and he yelled at me then hung up.

  • @MikeErb600
    @MikeErb600 7 днів тому +5

    My guys to rip an put back are 130 a sq for a walkable house

    • @vincentmarro1396
      @vincentmarro1396 7 днів тому +3

      Yes that is a true good sub rate

    • @MikeErb600
      @MikeErb600 7 днів тому

      @@vincentmarro1396 I believe it is as well.. it also depends over where you are for pricing but this guys pricing is straight up disrespectful

    • @callmedpo
      @callmedpo 6 днів тому +1

      It all depends on your market and were you are at

  • @HWBuilding
    @HWBuilding 7 днів тому +4

    "Adhd" this guy got something else going other than just adhd

  • @greentekroofingandsolar
    @greentekroofingandsolar 7 днів тому +4

    My first audit in year 2 was $60k. Was a total shocker. Luckily I was very frugal and had the money to pay. After first audit, we created a process for our insurance audits making sure we reported correctly .

  • @LovejoyBuild
    @LovejoyBuild 6 днів тому +1

    As a remodeling contractor (4 years) that dude won’t last by end of summer. Guaranteed

  • @jasonesmail9786
    @jasonesmail9786 3 дні тому +1

    He’s exactly what’s wrong with our industry we have absolute aggressive druggies taking advantage of desperate people. I’m not shocked but I feel disgusted about this child.

  • @markbonnell1036
    @markbonnell1036 7 днів тому +6

    What is he doing stealing all the materials

    • @asonofAbba2
      @asonofAbba2 7 днів тому +1

      Probably just slapping the shingles down with cheep starter eaves only, cheapest felt possible, no IWS, reusing all vents and flashings. His pricing sounds right for this type of roofing. This will only work in Southern states with no code enforcement. Try doing that s*** in cold Northern states like MN, CO, IL, etc. and you'll be thrown out on your ass by inspectors. Even if you didn't get caught, no IWS in northern states is borderline criminal even if code technically allows in. For example, IWS is NOT code in WI for any pitch over 4/12. Insane. NO one roofs here and actually abides by that. EVERYONE is putting at least 3ft at eaves and 3 ft in valleys, even though code doesn't require any for most roofs.

    • @markbonnell1036
      @markbonnell1036 7 днів тому

      @ I am in Canada and materials run about $250 a square

  • @briancooper5428
    @briancooper5428 6 днів тому +1

    I want to know how his other job materials only equal $20 per sq. He said $100 for shingles and all in for $120 ? I don't think he is making close to the $70 he says he is.

  • @Teflondon717
    @Teflondon717 6 днів тому +1

    Love his ambition & Love the overall goal he is trying to achieve. I wish him the best but it won’t last a year. He ran on Wc question. 🚩

  • @andrewchristensen1591
    @andrewchristensen1591 6 днів тому +2

    3-4months…not even credible. He was hoping for this platform to promote his scheme. Dimitri just breaking down the costs and asking questions. This guy is not accounting for taxes, insurance, wrokmans comp, ummm RISK 😂

  • @strongroofing
    @strongroofing 7 днів тому +5

    There is no cushion for mistakes

  • @christopherledbetter1009
    @christopherledbetter1009 7 днів тому +3

    I'd have to challenge you on the 10 dollars a square for dump. It's closer to 5 dollars. So for 70 square It's not costing 700.00 for the dump fee. Also most sub contractor's installers will want 200.00 per day ,so with 10 guy's he's out 2k. They better be installing 60 square per day to make money.

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +1

      @@christopherledbetter1009 25-30 square roof will cost $300 to dump in Midwest…. Maybe cheaper in Texas but doubt it. If you charge $10 per square managing just dumps you will not make money after you pay trailers, driver and dump fees…

    • @christopherledbetter1009
      @christopherledbetter1009 7 днів тому +1

      I'm baffled that he's comfortable making 35 square off and 35 back on. It's companies like this that hurt the industry. We let customers know that they're aren't just paying for quality but they're also paying for the warranty. If anything ever happens where he has a leak or a shingle blows off ,he probably will not want to show up; since profits are very small.

    • @joeldelamirande5792
      @joeldelamirande5792 6 днів тому

      Installer 200/day that most time they want 400-500/ day

    • @christopherledbetter1009
      @christopherledbetter1009 6 днів тому

      @@joeldelamirande5792 In what state?

    • @christopherledbetter1009
      @christopherledbetter1009 6 днів тому

      @joeldelamirande5792 That's not true. They aren't making 400 a day.

  • @tylericefoot1
    @tylericefoot1 6 днів тому +1

    Material goes up 6-10% every year minimum he’s definitely getting some sketchy material that’s been sitting at some shady warehouse.

  • @marcusmiller5308
    @marcusmiller5308 3 дні тому +1

    This is exactly why roofers have bad names out there, Jesse is ripping off the roofers/homeowners because it’s just time before they’ll go belly up.

  • @xrayded5037
    @xrayded5037 6 днів тому +2

    Some times God talks to in ways so things don’t happen to us or protecting us.

  • @codyzimmerman2582
    @codyzimmerman2582 5 днів тому +2

    The guy is an idiot. Cant see help when its slapping him in the face. Now hes posterized over the internet.

  • @Blessingroofs
    @Blessingroofs 6 днів тому +2

    Tamco titan is a Decent shingle

  • @olehmaksymov3672
    @olehmaksymov3672 4 дні тому +1

    People can lie, numbers not )

  • @PuebloRevolt1680
    @PuebloRevolt1680 6 днів тому +1

    Those audits are heavy and nothing to play with, GL/WC ... where is this guys profit margin, much less the companies he reps for? WOW

  • @RyanJohnson-l1m
    @RyanJohnson-l1m 6 днів тому +2

    Super shady. Does not have proper insurance guaranteed. Also anyone who tells you how religious they are is a huge red flag. And call you brother that much. This guy is using small time contractor math

  • @Alex-em9gq
    @Alex-em9gq 6 днів тому +1

    Is this tear off reroof or new construction price?

  • @cnconstructioninc1742
    @cnconstructioninc1742 6 днів тому +3

    I have 40,000 Squares for you to build at this price 65 a sq

  • @KINGSKING777
    @KINGSKING777 7 днів тому +2

    no way that the taxes and insurance are being paid. something is missing here

  • @xrayded5037
    @xrayded5037 6 днів тому +3

    Some times God talks to in ways so things don’t happen to us or protecting us. Everyone prices are different for sure. The more you buy the better price you will get for sure but there is a base! This guy will be out of business in short period of time.

  • @beewjor8533
    @beewjor8533 6 днів тому +1

    Liars can figure but figures don’t lie!

  • @dannyb5401
    @dannyb5401 5 днів тому +1

    Can you say workers comp exempt

  • @christopherledbetter1009
    @christopherledbetter1009 7 днів тому +3

    Did he say 3 story Apartments. Wow that's cheap. For Apartments 3 story he should be paying a lot more.

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому

      @@christopherledbetter1009 yes he did. $70 for three story apartment with crew paying for dumpsters and disposal …

    • @christopherledbetter1009
      @christopherledbetter1009 7 днів тому

      @RoofingInsights3.0 Better hope those roof's are stocked with shingles because that's very labor intensive getting material on the roof.

  • @VaqueroPirata
    @VaqueroPirata 6 днів тому +1

    Get Him Bro!!!!

  • @SteveWaible
    @SteveWaible 6 днів тому +1

    I believe this is absurd and completely unprofessional.
    Any fool can cut throat an industry just too keep some shady cash running business going for a short amount of time .
    Shameful , very shameful .

  • @beewjor8533
    @beewjor8533 6 днів тому +1

    Dude is straight about to get audited…no way it’s enough for work comp much less incidentals or equipment 😬

  • @tylericefoot1
    @tylericefoot1 6 днів тому +2

    He seems like a glorified middle man that isn’t needed in the market

  • @Jr-yi1oo
    @Jr-yi1oo 5 днів тому +1

    8:55 did I hear right 100 roofs a week?? 🤣

  • @kevincloonan9787
    @kevincloonan9787 6 днів тому +2

    Im not in the roofing business and this guy and these numbers dont make sense

  • @user-tg9gw3ww8c
    @user-tg9gw3ww8c 6 днів тому +3

    Sounds super sketchy

    • @user-tg9gw3ww8c
      @user-tg9gw3ww8c 6 днів тому

      Dmitry, would love to pick at your brain 🧠 for 30 seconds. Local SWFL roof company owner
      Young and hungry, I just need guidance with legal side of Roofing. for instance, covering all the right Worker’s Comp. so I don’t get audited

  • @ivanzepeda7713
    @ivanzepeda7713 2 дні тому +1

    One crew that does 100 roofs a week it must be about 50 guys in that one crew I bet those jobs sites look like there’s a party 🎉 at that home 😅

  • @ajlra9652
    @ajlra9652 6 днів тому +1

    That guy has far more issue than you can solve. He’s the reason why roofers have a bad name.

  • @shadenwyatt9461
    @shadenwyatt9461 7 днів тому +2

    I can't…... 🤦 260 a square psh… I can do it cheaper.

  • @markbonnell1036
    @markbonnell1036 7 днів тому +2

    He said he was broke , of course he is , you never sell materials at cost , , this guy will be bankrupt in 2 months

    • @RoofingInsights3.0
      @RoofingInsights3.0  7 днів тому +1

      Hey, he lasted 3 months so far…

    • @markbonnell1036
      @markbonnell1036 7 днів тому

      @ 2 more and he will be done , once his subs see this video might be sooner

  • @robertstanley980
    @robertstanley980 7 днів тому +2

    This guy makes my math brain hurt.

  • @MikeErb600
    @MikeErb600 7 днів тому +2

    Just labor*

  • @joeldelamirande5792
    @joeldelamirande5792 6 днів тому +2

    Volume is awesome it important to know your number because you’ll cry later

  • @MikeErb600
    @MikeErb600 7 днів тому +3

    There is no way this guy is legit