Trip report Beijing - Shanghai by (bullet)train (Silk road part 9 Netherlands to China by train)
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Welcome to another trip report. Video 9 out of 9 on my way to and in China along the Silk-Road.
In this video I'll be travelling on a G high-speed train from Beijing to Shanghai on second class.
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High-speed trains in China allow you to order food on your phone and have it delivered to the train at the next stop
Yes, passengers can order takeaway online on the train
wow, that's a new and great idea, it's been several years since my last ride of G-train. things really change here.
@@4191682 你们俩中国人装什么装- -！
@@真有趣优土鳖 并没有装啊，人家的comment是英语的，我回复当然也用英语了。
@@4191682 哈哈哈，我不过是在逗闷子玩～(￣▽￣～)~，记得很早来UA-cam，我也是跟一个哥们儿聊英语，很久以后他突然用汉字问我，你丫中国人吧(●-●)哈哈哈哈
In my childhood, about late 1980s，the fastest train from Shanghai to Beijing took 17 hours, and now it is four and a half hours
And exactly what have you done to contribute to that, oh that's right, nothing.
Amazing yeah. Saw old videos around that era on how Chinese from villages would sleep outside of the train stations for many days just to wait for their trains. Now it's almost 40,000 km of high speed railways crisscrossing the country. And they just debuted 600 km/h maglev train.
@@aaabbb-py5xd Why did you comment that???
@@linksrepublikaner Because it is one's duty to call out posers who bask in the glory of other people's work. Suspect comments characteristic of such a diseased mindset will be confronted.
@@aaabbb-py5xd I agree on your opinion, but, didn't he just said how it used to be in the past? Is that already evil or bad for you?
China high speed rail and their stations are simply awesome, amazing and breathtaking.
It is amazing but it feels like an airport and airports are horrible. In Europe Trainstations are just open, there is no Boarding or separate Departure and Arrival or security scan or anything. You just go there, buy a ticket if required, wait, enter the train. Usually without reservation. I very much prefer that system as great as the Chinese system is.
Compared to 20-30 years ago, the living standard and overall infrastructure of China have improved tremendously. Most Chinese people are proud of the achievement of their Government. This is a relatively safe country to live in.
Absolutely, the development in general is like crazy in China. I mean just look at all the new things they are building.
I don't know how its like from a Chinese perspective but from the perspective as a tourist this country is extremely save.
@@Trainviking Some American "experts" said that Chinese economy hasn't developed that fast, or even has been stagnant in the last decade. However, in the last decade China has built up 35,000 kilometers HSR, and how much it values in USA? I doubt whether the USA can build a 500 kilometers HSR in CA, using 100 billions US$.
@@patrickwu6052 I'm not an economist and this is a kind of sensitive subject I found out on my videos on Chinese trains. Therefore I made this rule... I only talk about politics when it will be about railways on my channel (ooohh this is a tricky one, the strikes in France made me really angry on the trip where I'm on right now and I totally don't agree with the reason for the strike and the reason doesn't include railways but the retirement system, since strikes are not that common, I don't know if I'll upload this one but I'm on fire right now).
@@Trainviking Your comment about the development in China reminds me of the words the "experts" said about China. You say China is really developing like crazy but they say China lies about its development. Just a sudden thought, not a big deal.
@@patrickwu6052 well. Expanding at least ;).
I don't know the numbers, and when I see numbers I go crazy... Unless I see SNCF (France railways) staff with numbers. They should shut up and get to work (sorry I'm just pissed of at this moment at them).
HSR train is actually more comfy than plane, space is larger, much much less suffocating, no more taking off coat checkup, no more Uber to a suburb
Absolutely, this is why I love trains. Besides that, just concider the environment trains are so much better.
in my opinion，if travel distance less than 1500km，highspeed train is much better than plane
This is even better than flying on the plane.
Trains are pretty often better than flying in a plane. Not only in China. The advantage not arriving inside the city center, having way less time to spend at the security, don't have to wait for your luggage...trains are just better. Even on routes where trains are slower and, you can take a sleeper train so you have hotel + train ticket in one go (same thing for this route, there are lots of sleeper trains as well).
Amazing station.
Nice to know you went to China by railway. It is my dream trip too, From Asia to Europe by railway.
From this video, I can tell you are really a train fan. You have great knowledge on the Chinese railway/trains. This video should have much more views.
Thank you so much.
Well I just started with UA-cam, so I don't have that much followers etc yet. Hopefully this will grow. I just hope to convince more people to take the train instead not the plane.
I really recommend you to do this by train. For me it's a kind of difficult (from what I understood) to get a visa for Russia to re-enter. Otherwise a trip via Mongolia, China and back via Kazakhstan is also pretty cool (oh for me also a difficult thing with visa is Belarus but I hope to.make a video on the train to.russia via the Baltic States next summer)... I just want to show so many things that are possible by train to the world haha.
When you have any questions regarding this trip let me know. Something I really have to say, for Russia and Kazakhstan the cheapest thing to do is book traintickets yourself directly at the railway company (when you buy tickets in Kazakhstan via the Russian railway company, you already pay more). I will try to make a video on this as well :).
@@Trainviking thanks for the information. Sure I will contact you if I need the help
I traveled in Europe by train when I was studying there. I loved the inter rail pass. It was so convenient especially in northern European countries. Chinese railway is much better now. They will use e ticket for all the lines and stations in the end of next year. They already started in some regions. So next time foreigners don't need to print the tickets in the stations. For the security checks on all the Metro and railways, it started a few years ago after the terrorists attacks from ETIM arose the China especially in Xinjiang.
I hope you get more followers. The quality of the video is great. You covered everything in the video from travel info to views on the way. You won't see those desert and mountains along the Xinjiang to Lanzhou line if you fly.
just like an official documentary. Good job dude
Germany: we have ICE in 4 models
France: we have TGV in many models
Japan: We have bullet trains in many models
China: We can't choose we want them all
Hahahaha so true
China actually doesn't have TGV based model due to the ban of Jacobs bogie which imposes a heavier pressure on track. Also at the time when China was purchasing technology the French hasn't yet finished their AGV train so there was not a lot we can choose. Due to the ban of tilting technology Pendolino was imported with removal of tilting feature, and some how the producer didn't design it (the removal of tilting feature) well, so there was multiple debugging, domestification and refinement of CRH5, unlike the CRH2A and CRH3C models which are almost identical to original Shinkansen E2 and ICE3. CRH2C and CRH3A might be as domesticated as CRH5 families but for different reasons.
I am a Chinese. For short trips, I prefer high-speed rail. For example, Nanjing to Beijing. The fastest high-speed rail is three and a half hours. The average high-speed rail may be four and a half hours. But if I take an airplane, I need to spend more than an hour to the airport, another hour to check in, security check, and then two hours to fly, which is much slower than the high-speed rail. However, during the Spring Festival, I still have to take an hour's high-speed rail home, plus twelve-hour sleepers. At the end of this year, my hometown will be connected to the high-speed rail. I am looking forward to turning a dozen hours of slow train journey into few hours of high-speed rail.
Nice, it's great to see how all different towns are being connected to the high speed lines.
And I have to say, in a way slow sleeper trains can be nice as well. Next week I will make a trip in Europe with a slow sleeper train, when I do this with a high speed train it will take me 5 hours now it will take me 12 hours but because I can take a sleeper train, I don't need a hotel (well I'll explain this in the video, it will be the Intercité de nuit video from Paris to Portbou)
For travel, it is really good, you can save the cost of a night's accommodation, and you can slowly enjoy the scenery along the way. One of my dreams is to take the Qinghai-Tibet Railway to Lhasa, Tibet. The scenery along the way is too beautiful. I heard that the ChengDu-Tibet high-speed railway is also under construction.
Haha, but when I go home, I definitely want the train to go faster and go home earlier. It will be the Chinese New Year in another month, and the time to go home is getting closer and closer, thank you for the video. I wish you a pleasant journey on the European Railways and hope that you will be able to come to China again.
Yomi 。 agree. I worked at Suzhou, while my hometown is about 1000 kilometers away. I back home and see my parents by high-speed trains every two months on the weekend. It is quite convenient than the airplane.
@@569223535 The Chengdu to Tibet new railway is still under construction but the newly built Chengdu to Qunming railway will open to passengers next year if everything goes smoothly. That would be a hell of railway to ride! Also my parents’ hometown is on that line. Definitely go there when it’s ready!
You order on your phone through the apps, they will deliver it to you by the next station.
I found out after I made the video, I just think this is such a great concept. I really like it.
welcome to China.wish you great journey. by train, great, green
Shanghau Honqiao transportation hub is huge with bullet train, bus, metro and airport
Only FEW trains on Jinghu(Beijing-Shanghai) HSR actually operating at 350km/h, cuz it's one of the 2 profittable HSR railways in China .(the other one is Guangzhou-Hong Kong HSR which is expensive 😂)
just watched all 9 videos and that was a really fun adventure to follow! + subbed :D
after china then korea and japan, some awesome trains wait for you to ride
especially if you can ride the train across north korea 😍
Great trip report
It's also interesting that CR400 series is rather a PC in China for the so-called China Standard, independent manufaturing.
In most of the railwayfans' opinion, CRH380 series are better.
I’ve seen a number of your videos, if u’re still in China, you should definitely check out the business class. I frequently take it on short trips (e.g. Shanghai to Hangzhou or Guangzhou to Shenzhen), because it can get really expensive on a long trip.
Thanks :). I'm not in China anymore but I definitely want to come back. For now I will make more videos in Europe and because of the Chinese videos I also want to show people the highest class in frecciarossa trains in Italy. They are most like the Chinese business class (in Italy I do have some other wishes as well... I will safe you from that because me as a train nerd will go wild on this haha)
"..although in regular service, this train only hits a little more than 350km/hour" ... I'd love them run at over 400km/hr without raising the fare 🤣
Wonderful trip! I'll take it. 🤩
BGM is fantastic!
Your Dutch accent is so adorable😁
Haha thank you.
There are grammatical errors here and there, but it was still well spoken and pleasant to hear. Thank you for sharing.
Really nice report and if you are wondering provided you have a KLM or British Airways frequent flyer mileage the high-speed station in Shanghai is connected to the airport do what you can actually return to Schipol Airport via Hong Kong. You can also try Beijing Hong Kong High-Speed Rail post COVID-19 because of restrictions in Hubei and Hunan Provinces.
Fabulous " G " trains . 👌🎂
Yeah, they are nice. But the D trains are really okay as well (I didn't had that many trains in China but also the K train was nice I had from Kazakhstan to China)
@@Trainviking They often use the same train carriages for D and G trains. Last time I took a G train from Beijing to Shanghai. After arrival, while I was taking photos, I saw the G train has switched to a D train to a different destination. In no more than 15 minutes after my arrival, new passenges are already boarding the train again.
@starcraft5045 In China, G, C, D can be consider as high speed train by international standard (top speed reaches 250KM/h or more). Z, T, K and number only trains are much slower, their top speed are about 160km/h, 140km/h and 120km/h. There are different models in the high speed trains, some models top speed are less than 300km/h and they usually runs at about 250km/h, such as CRH-1, CRH-2. They can only be used as D, not G. For other models such as CRH-380A or CR-400 etc, they usually speed above 300km/h or 350km/h, they are used as G in most cases. However, as I said above, you may see some of those faster model trains run at a lower speed and serve as a D train. C train is intercity, usually runs between 2 close by cities. Most of them runs at 250km/h like D, but there is also service runs at 300km/h such as the service between Beijing and Tianjin.
WOW. very informative
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好吧，欢迎国际友人。
Many thanks for your travel reports. Found the building in Brest where they do the Talgo gear changes, and I *think* I found the Chinese statyion at the border with Kazakstan, but unless the tracks between that and Atynkol are dual gauge, I am not quite sure how you got there on a broad gauge bogie :-) Also, do you know where the train in China got its bogies changed? I assume they pulled it somewhere and rbought it back to the station? Quite the journey you had !
BTW, you entered China through a cultural region that is making the news. Back in 2019, did you know about that culture's treatment and did you notice anything, or was this totally invisible to you?
Gauge change mechanisms have been developed and are in situ on the France Spain and Poland Belarus borders. I would expect them to be on the China Kazakhstan border too
I am just curious on how they do maintenance on the tracks. in my canadian city, we have a light rail transit system (not that big), but it ALWAYS has maintenance on weekends and some stops are closed during this time.
every night, when there is no passenger train in operation, its maintenance time window
I was wondering the same, thanks for letting us know.
The same thing is on pretty much all high speed lines in Europe as well I guess. I work in the train business and there are some routes that just ALWAYS run but at night there are no services in those lines.
What is the music name that playst at the end of the video?
Bro, Try this train G1373 ( 上海虹桥站（Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station）------->昆明南站（Kunmingnan Railway Station） ) : 300 km/h, 2252 km , 10 hours and 39 minutes, 15 Stop ! Just 125 USD (Second Class seat)!
From China East To China West ! It will be a fun journey !
Hahaha......of course you're a big boy, you're descendant of the vikings!!
Hey man next time try the business class. It's awesome, like a 5-star hotel.
I'd love to but I need to safe some money foe that.
@@Trainviking Sure, everybody needs 😂 I also like railway traveling very much. Maybe we can travel together sometime. Good luck man. Looking forward your new videos.👍
From Netherlands to Shanghai by train.
Yup
these put most of the Russian and some European high speed trains to SHAME
Depends how you look at it. Passenger rights are better on paper in Europe because of through tickets (doesn't count for all countries thow). The thing with Europe is there is not enough cooperation, look at RENFE and SNCF, they had a cooperation, than SNCF started competing on one route (basically also competing their own train). However some high-speed lines don't make any sense in economical and environmental perspective (same thing counts for Spain by the way). However, no matter how you look at it, what China does is really impressive.
국민의 뜻과는 거래가 멀어지고 있사오니 70통당입금하시든지 말든지 알아서 하서요ㅡok 국민이 주도랄 생각입니다 ㆍ시진핑정부 님ㆍ ㄴ
China cannot have such a railway station, this is clearly South Korea.
It's really China. Korea is also really nice when it comes to this (I do have videos in Korea as well on my channel and beginning 2020 I will upload 2 other videos in Korea on tourist trains).
China is building this infrastructure like crazy these days everything is brand new.
Trainviking Frustrating, isn’t it ? That you have to explain that ... I can’t stop laughing every time when someone is accusing Chinese people being brainwashed, yeah see whose brains are actually washed to the extent that they choose to repeat outright lies over facts, subconsciously.
no, it is taiwan. no question. China can not steel and build this kind of train. Taiwan is import from Japan.
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I fully agree with you, and I should add that there is only one country on this planet, that is South Korea!!! and South Korea is the king of the earth. I wish you good health.