Seriously 15?? Lol I thought he produced for longer than that. I think the moment you play in that DAW is the moment you start. Not the moment you get signed.
Not really. There are producers of just 5-8 years who can produce of this caliber. Years of expertise isn't always a factor of having better experience than someone new but how well you have grasped information and learned doing it. It's not hard if you know what you're doing and can execute it well
Experience is an important factor but since it’s all in the box, new producers can accelerate timeline immensely due to less hurdles. Also, for EDM among others, there is a HUGE luck factor and a plethora of other factors that have nothing to do with making music. Do you and Party on 🎉🎉🎉
For obtaining as insanely loud at -5 LUFS, without huge compromises - one must design the song for being loud. It begins in the sound design/selection.
It's all about mastering the song as soon as you start it. You want to edit sounds when they are pushed to their absolute limit. That's how you get the loudest sound with most clarity. Clip 2 Zero has some of this info.
I’ve switched to using fab pro L2/ SIR standard clip for all actual dynamics control, and compression is more for effect/distortion/vibe. Every track has the pro L2 shaving off 3-5 db (sometimes more if it doesn’t need to be dynamic). Really tightened up my mixes and made mastering way easier.
@@Bloquednb hard limiting does, but to those reaching the set limit, meaning you don't have to add unwanted harmonics to the rest of the sound, if your goal is only to increase perceived loudness
Wow, your knowledge and communication approach are second to none. I have been producing for ages and I learn something new today. Subbed and keep up the awesome work.
Most mastering engineers use two limiters to get to a commercial volume as slamming it through one chokes the sound. Also things to consider are expansion which makes songs sound bigger, loud and jump out of speakers. Saturation, multiband compression, mid/side eq and compression etc. Being super loud is irrelevant nowadays but creating a punchy and bold mix is always good. Good job Big Z
This was such a well made easy to understand breakdown! For people interested in learning more about the last concept I want to reference AHEE and Baphometrix. They go super in depth on Skrillex’s bus mastering technique. Thank u for the tutorial!
Great video. Most of these tips / techniques are valuable even if you're not interested in super loud masters. BTW, standard clip allows up to 256 times oversampling. That's too much for live producing, but it's entirely ok when you print your mix/master. And, standard clip allows you to set one oversampling rate for live and a higher one for printing. And, it allows you to choose the type of brick-wall, anti-aliasing filter you want. It's a pretty great, very configurable clipper for buses and even your 2bus.
This video paired with the on that Ahee did about Skrillex's routing chains in ableton are way useful. If you're looking for more info on exactly why/how you can hit -4 LUFS, check that breakdown. Love your videos BZ!
Hey bro, I make DnB and other electronic music. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, some of them have been very helpful to my workflow! thanks again bro!
I've tried putting an L2 on my Drum/Bass/Synth busses but I get weird timings (latency?) all over the place in LPX. What am I doing wrong? Is it a Logic setting? Help..
The bus comp you added back on after the group limiters will be adding back the extra dB's you gained - granted with a more even response.. You could add another agro limiter or Kclip/Standard Clip?Fire the Clip on after the comp to get those 1 or 2 dB the comp is reintroducing. Sounds really good man
If you guys think rumble sounds like skrillex’s best master, it’s because he didn’t master it. Luca pretolesi did. He does all of diplos masters and he did the Jack u album too. I was impressed when I found out skrillex mastered about 70% of his own album. But you can clearly tell Luca is the dude.
i don't get how the FF limiter can catch fast peaks with 10 sec attack setting you have put in the video , something seems not logical to me, to catch peaks fast the attack shouldn't be fast ??? i guess it's to avoid distortion but the is something i can't understand about it
The master chain is also missing things like a mono maker, stereo widener, passive eq and many other things that add to the master but don’t have a place in the mix so much ✨✨
hello to everyone, I don’t understand how the Pro-L2 works. If the attack is set to 10 seconds, is that the time it takes for the limiter to start working? Why such a long attack time?
Loud masters mean lower dynamic range. The platform is anyway going to reduce it to a certain LUFS, and you lost some points on dynamics. Anyway this works as well. When doing this keep an analyzer with dynamic showage as well. 8DB of dynamics is what you get at -8 LUFS. The higher you go the less dynamics. Depends on what you want.
This workflow could be improved a lit by using clippers instead of limiters on the busses. Clippers are not pumpy, retain punch and saturate the transient to suppliment loss of level with wide eq bursts...
You can check out my new Serum pack at bigzsounds.com - thanks for watching 🙌🏼
15+ years of music production is also a factor of his level
There are people who have less time in who produce similar results tho
Seriously 15?? Lol I thought he produced for longer than that. I think the moment you play in that DAW is the moment you start. Not the moment you get signed.
@@AAABeatbox then in that case I have 25 years of experience!
Not really. There are producers of just 5-8 years who can produce of this caliber. Years of expertise isn't always a factor of having better experience than someone new but how well you have grasped information and learned doing it. It's not hard if you know what you're doing and can execute it well
Experience is an important factor but since it’s all in the box, new producers can accelerate timeline immensely due to less hurdles. Also, for EDM among others, there is a HUGE luck factor and a plethora of other factors that have nothing to do with making music. Do you and Party on 🎉🎉🎉
For obtaining as insanely loud at -5 LUFS, without huge compromises - one must design the song for being loud. It begins in the sound design/selection.
It's all about mastering the song as soon as you start it. You want to edit sounds when they are pushed to their absolute limit. That's how you get the loudest sound with most clarity. Clip 2 Zero has some of this info.
@@matthewchavezm.b.s5503 There are countless more aspects than just not sacrificing or compromising clarity.
COMING BACK TO THIS VIDEO 1 YEAR AFTER AND IT STILL SO RELEVANT. THANK YOUUUUU
I’ve switched to using fab pro L2/ SIR standard clip for all actual dynamics control, and compression is more for effect/distortion/vibe. Every track has the pro L2 shaving off 3-5 db (sometimes more if it doesn’t need to be dynamic). Really tightened up my mixes and made mastering way easier.
Music gigachad
Big Z … the man teaching us what other won’t , thanks so much king super helpful 🙏🏼
every sound in your mix sounds so nice man and they all work perfectly together
Always incredible advice! Gonna have to buy your Serum preset pack as well 🤘🏼💛✨🎶
Solid explanation of the limiting busses. Seen a couple vids on it but this one was great
this is - by far - one of my fav. music producing channels / mixing channels on youtube.
Saturation can also be used to increase the perceived loudness of a sound and control the dynamics while reducing the RMS.
Essentially what he is doing with the hard limiting
Limiting doesn`t add harmonics which is why saturation adds perceived loudness.
@@Bloquednb hard limiting does, but to those reaching the set limit, meaning you don't have to add unwanted harmonics to the rest of the sound, if your goal is only to increase perceived loudness
I use BlackBox by Plugin Alliance for loudness. It's perfect
@@Hovis_Enjoyer exactly...plus if you want catching the peack(and i do almost all the time) the attack should be 0 ...
Something to mention, in Skrillex's Mumbai Power video you can see he's using the transparent setting on his bus limiter
Wow, your knowledge and communication approach are second to none. I have been producing for ages and I learn something new today. Subbed and keep up the awesome work.
Most mastering engineers use two limiters to get to a commercial volume as slamming it through one chokes the sound. Also things to consider are expansion which makes songs sound bigger, loud and jump out of speakers. Saturation, multiband compression, mid/side eq and compression etc. Being super loud is irrelevant nowadays but creating a punchy and bold mix is always good. Good job Big Z
This video has so many gems in it. Thank you, I never thought to do this with the limiter.
This was such a well made easy to understand breakdown! For people interested in learning more about the last concept I want to reference AHEE and Baphometrix. They go super in depth on Skrillex’s bus mastering technique. Thank u for the tutorial!
Could you hook me up with the links of the tutorials, please?
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Thank you! Love all your videos! Just purchased one of your sound packs too! Sounds I definitely been searching for;)
Great video. Most of these tips / techniques are valuable even if you're not interested in super loud masters. BTW, standard clip allows up to 256 times oversampling. That's too much for live producing, but it's entirely ok when you print your mix/master. And, standard clip allows you to set one oversampling rate for live and a higher one for printing. And, it allows you to choose the type of brick-wall, anti-aliasing filter you want. It's a pretty great, very configurable clipper for buses and even your 2bus.
Thanku so much What lookhead does in L2
This beat is 🔥🔥🔥! You've got some serious skills. Can't wait for more! 🎧👏
You’re a natural born teacher man, thank you for this 🙏
this man knows whats up hell yea baby
Composition + arraignment x good choice in voices and eq.. 👍🏻
This video paired with the on that Ahee did about Skrillex's routing chains in ableton are way useful. If you're looking for more info on exactly why/how you can hit -4 LUFS, check that breakdown. Love your videos BZ!
-4 LUFS is just completely unnecessary these days.
Most of tracks on Eatbrain label are -3 to -4 Lufs
yeah doesn't anything above like -10 LUFS just get squashed anyways on streaming services
@@Danz_Partydjing tho
At least in dubstep djs like it around at least -6
As Always Amazing , Thank You Big Z
Big info from Big Z. Thanks for sharing, man. Always looking for things I don't know or have not thought of yet. I learned something today!
I saw Mr.Bill hitting +1.5 Lufs / 0.1 true peak once and it was amazing. Never been the same since that day.
Hey bro, I make DnB and other electronic music. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, some of them have been very helpful to my workflow! thanks again bro!
I've tried putting an L2 on my Drum/Bass/Synth busses but I get weird timings (latency?) all over the place in LPX. What am I doing wrong? Is it a Logic setting? Help..
Great video again, bro! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Congratulations for all your work, i am denfinitly getting Modern Syths, as soon as posible, greetings from Ensenada México amigo : )
The bus comp you added back on after the group limiters will be adding back the extra dB's you gained - granted with a more even response.. You could add another agro limiter or Kclip/Standard Clip?Fire the Clip on after the comp to get those 1 or 2 dB the comp is reintroducing. Sounds really good man
That limiter tip has to be one of the best things I've learnt on the internet, kudos brother.
I feel stupid admitting this, but the section about keeping your drums mostly fry was game changing for me.
Amazing tips as always! You are amazing, dude!🤟🤝
Amazing video, this is the key piece I was missing in mastering my tracks for loudness. Thanks!!!
Each and every Big Z video that comes out have become like crack to me.. Great work as always!!
If you guys think rumble sounds like skrillex’s best master, it’s because he didn’t master it. Luca pretolesi did. He does all of diplos masters and he did the Jack u album too. I was impressed when I found out skrillex mastered about 70% of his own album. But you can clearly tell Luca is the dude.
Insane video, man! Hope you will keep analyzing different artists and then make video about it!
So many useful and essential tips, I will watch it again many times
You're still the LOGIC Pro and overall production GOAT!
I love hearing about production tips for Skrillax 🙌🏻
layers as one sound. simple concept, but great to focus in on!
Amazing reverb tip! Thanks Big Z!
It is not the best idea to limit your drums, unless you want that pumping effect. Prefer soft clipping instead.
That last tip was huge, helped so much .
Great video. I was thinking about this the past few weeks. Copped the presets as a thank you.
The Group Mastering trick is Gold!!! ❤❤
Keep doing these content, you do it well
Why attack on full ?
You are the best!! Pure
Absolute geniuse tip !! Thanks 🙌
Thanks for the tips my man! So awesome!
is LD Elsewhere & LD Mirage a reference to the Brooklyn concert venues?
don't get RMS and LUFS mixed up. A decently loud master should peak at around -4.5 RMS where as in terms of LUFS you usually land at around -8
Thanks for sharing. Great help.🤗
i don't get how the FF limiter can catch fast peaks with 10 sec attack setting you have put in the video , something seems not logical to me, to catch peaks fast the attack shouldn't be fast ??? i guess it's to avoid distortion but the is something i can't understand about it
This is heavenly good!
Great video! Some good points here.
Secret: just pump it up all and kill the dynamics. Actually there should be variation in loudness of the notes and the percussion.
This is so on point. Thank you man!
I hope you use ozone 😢for this technique of loudness and pick it’s very interesting but i don’t have fabfilter
Cant you use a clipper instead?
your synth are the best !!!
Big Z, thanks for your Channel and Knowledge!
I always enjoy your content
This is such an amazing and simple tutorial for all of my vocals! Thank you so much!
This video is a golden nugget... Thank you so much!!
Loving the project track very nice
Amazing advice thank you !
The master chain is also missing things like a mono maker, stereo widener, passive eq and many other things that add to the master but don’t have a place in the mix so much ✨✨
Thanks, always useful ! king
Thanks for sharing this! And those presets sound very smooth, looking to cop soon
Wow. I love this video. Thank you.
This vid was really helpful and straight to the point, huge W
Ty❤️
Also, his routing is crazy. His tracks are routed to different chains... Hype chain, basic chain, chain master, premaster.
Really valuable tips here thx mate
great knowledge, love the example song too ngl
I needed all of this 🙌
Good stuff Big Z!
Love this channel!
This is such a great video.
hello to everyone, I don’t understand how the Pro-L2 works. If the attack is set to 10 seconds, is that the time it takes for the limiter to start working? Why such a long attack time?
Great videos, thank you so much man
Great tips man
Loud masters mean lower dynamic range. The platform is anyway going to reduce it to a certain LUFS, and you lost some points on dynamics. Anyway this works as well. When doing this keep an analyzer with dynamic showage as well. 8DB of dynamics is what you get at -8 LUFS. The higher you go the less dynamics. Depends on what you want.
This workflow could be improved a lit by using clippers instead of limiters on the busses. Clippers are not pumpy, retain punch and saturate the transient to suppliment loss of level with wide eq bursts...
Nice man thx for sharing that!!!
So many gems in this one
Perfect, thank you! EDIT: I try in a mixing process and wow, really can get 2 or 3 dB more at -0 in my master! Thank you again!
Awesome, just what I needed to know in an easy to understand way, thanks, subbed 👍 😀
Nice video , you could also put a soft clipper before the final master limiter so it cut again a bit of peak ! :)
Which Logic Pro plugin does that soft clipper thing you mention here ?
This is something I haven't tried yet. Thank you .
Nice methods, thanks!
Fantastic tips and breakdown
Imma try that for sure! Thanks for the video 🙏
Excellent video once again! I love to see (and hear) your in depth tips & tricks on just one certain subject; they supply great new insights!
Big Z u magnificent bastard, you've done it again!
Thanks man it helps a lot