Michael, I recently heard a Grimerica podcast in which you read a passage about language by Ernst Junger. Could you please tell me the book this came from? I tried the message link on your website but the message was returned. Kind regards and thanks for the inspiring videos!
Just wanted to leave a comment, your a wonderful creator to find among the millions out there. I love all the thoughtfilly presented videos and discussions you've made and appreciate your insight ❤ I hope your having a wonderful start to the new year 🇺🇸🫶🇬🇷
The meaning and translation of the word "duende" into English, or for that matter to any other language, is hard to explain. Personally, from my standpoint, you did a fantastic job. Well done Michael!
@@AncientGreeceRevisited i guess thats the old meaning, if you go to any spanish speaker with that word and expect them to understand it as demon or spirit it'll never happend. For us duende elfo hada is all the same. Also, i didnt know fairy was only for the female form.
Wow Michael Thank you so much. Your videos are a breath of fresh air. What an inspiration. I now have something worth while to watch on Utube. I look forward to watching your many episodes over the next few months. A great way for me to explore my Greek heritage at this late stage in my life. Having been brought up in South Africa then lived in Greece in my early 20's moving in and out of India while studying Yoga and Classical Indian music, I always felt that there were many connections and similarities in the ancient cultures of Greece and India. Now im studying Famenco guitar while still keeping up Indian music. i stumbled on this video on Duende, and will definitely be getting the book. I wonder if you are familier with the controversial book Shiva and Dionysus. Thanks again for your, insightful and informative videos. Please keep up the great work you are doing.
there are 222 views with 22 likes after 2 days as I write this @ 2:22 during the video. anyway, thanks for new video and a book suggestion for the winter.
Off topic: I would love to know your perspective on a modern thinker such as Ludwig von Mises, who at least superficially resembles an ancient Greek philosopher in tending to think _axiomatically_ about human nature and human purpose, and yet gives the impression (to me at least) of being much more of a liberal individualist than Plato or Aristotle.
Moderns proceed from entirely different presuppositions on human nature., Mainly, the idea that all behavior is the result of our struggle for survival. It’s a “pushed from behind” kind of thinking. The ancients believes in teleological explanations. That all phenomena, including Man, can also be explained via their “ends,” their end goals as it were.
@@AncientGreeceRevisited I mentioned Mises in particular because he represents the classical liberal's trust in the spontaneous order formed by free markets. Is this particular idea a genuine modern improvement on ancient thought? I think so. While I'm intrigued by your attempt to revive ancient philosophy, I also worry about the potentially oppressive nature of a Platonic-Aristotelian state that concerns itself with your telos and with mine. Let's maintain separation of telos and state.
@@brian423Well, it would concern itself with the telos of Man (as Man), And concerning this, yes, it would include you and I. What many modern philosophers don't understand is - ironically - the power of philosophy itself. That is why, say, the Trial of Socrates, is so often presented as nothing but an example of prejudice over reason. The reason why this event is interpreted like so is the general ignorance about the dangers of philosophy. And it's power (which is to say the same). Philosophers define the reality in which others play in. The background against which human actions occurs.
@@AncientGreeceRevisited Yes, philosophy is powerful, and therefore it's dangerous for the state to have a teleological agenda any more specific than "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as the U.S. Declaration of Independence says. Wouldn't it have been much better for Socrates if his city had, in effect, remained teleologically neutral by granting him freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion (even though, ironically, Socrates himself failed to appreciate the potential benefits thereof)?
Well its good that you know in this video "where you stand" unlike the last video which had so many errors. Which feels like when you mention of ancient Greek religion I dont think you are ready for that. But some hints that might help you. professor and rector Mr. Georgios Babiniotis notes: "Whoever talks about Orthodoxy in the absence of Hellenism, I think is in vain, but whoever talks about Hellenism in the absence of Orthodoxy is doing something worse; it is ugly." "Saint Justin continued to wear his attire of a philosopher, thus witnessing that there is no contradiction between being a philosopher and a Christian." Which called Socrates and Plato for example Christians before Christ which is why the church has icons of them which most dont know about. Even Alexander the great their were Orthodox icons of him which is considered a demigod in ancient Greek(and Egypt). Clement of Alexandria, in his work Stromateis, "the Apostle Paul says: "Take also the Greek Bibles, know the Sibyl, who declares one God and the future, and you will find our Lord Jesus Christ written more clearly." Greece Archbishop Christodoulos said "Early Greek Christians blessed and honored the Ancient Greek temples,... by recycling the materials (stones and dirt) from the Ancient Greek Temples to build Christian temples." & "when our [Ancient Greek] ancestors gave the lights of civilization, they [Europeans] were living up in trees" "The goal of the Olympians was to prepare and to promote humanity under the unknown God, until the Coming That one." "The Olympians confessed that they are angels of God, that they have a share only the Good, and prepared the way for the coming of Jesus Christ." as stated in the book Archives of lost knowledge words of fire. "The Greeks received the laws from Minos long before the appearance of Moses when Zeus appeared on the top of the mountain Idi. These laws were handed over to lithe plates, copies of which are now in the museum of Gortys and the Louvre Museum" "If an ancient Greek lived in today's times, they would have liked it to the temples dedicated to the Saints of Orthodoxy, not for the worship of the saints, but the worship of the One God. Comparing the current situation with its own, would distinguish a religious one furthermore, because of the churches that were dedicated to Apollo, Athena and the other Olympians, was worshiped One God. Only then did Christ appear not in humanity and for that very reason the Unknown God was worshiped." theologian, historian, professor, Fr George Metallenos Of the school of Athens mentions in his book "Pagan Hellenism or Greek Orthodoxy?" "That Christianity is a spiritual continuation of Hellenism, in almost everything (terminology, symbols, ritual, etc.) and [then later altered] the Hebrew alleloujah [it is not what most think it is] is (both literally and etymologically) the sequence from Zeus to Jesus" "The ancient Greeks were not pagans. They did not worship idols, but personified ideas and values, to which, in fact, they had given a high spiritual and ideological content. In fact, they were not, as Xenophanes the Colophonius first put it (in God... magnum), nor polytheists. ... The so-called gods of Olympus were believed to be all children of the one and only god, Zeus, and constituted a kind of numerous Holy Family or eleven (+1) Saints. On the contrary, Christians have at times, wrongly of course, been considered pagans, because of the worship of images." These are all translated from Greek so this is not alliable in English for the most part.
Michael, I recently heard a Grimerica podcast in which you read a passage about language by Ernst Junger. Could you please tell me the book this came from? I tried the message link on your website but the message was returned.
Kind regards and thanks for the inspiring videos!
It’s the end of “The Forest Passage.”
Just wanted to leave a comment, your a wonderful creator to find among the millions out there. I love all the thoughtfilly presented videos and discussions you've made and appreciate your insight ❤ I hope your having a wonderful start to the new year 🇺🇸🫶🇬🇷
The meaning and translation of the word "duende" into English, or for that matter to any other language, is hard to explain. Personally, from my standpoint, you did a fantastic job. Well done Michael!
duende means fairy. I guess it used to have different meanings in the past.
It’s not exactly “fairy” as in the female spirits of the Celts. Duende is NOT a “nature spirit.” I think the Greek daemon is better
@@AncientGreeceRevisited i guess thats the old meaning, if you go to any spanish speaker with that word and expect them to understand it as demon or spirit it'll never happend. For us duende elfo hada is all the same.
Also, i didnt know fairy was only for the female form.
I'm already hunting for the book 🔪❣️ Thank you!
Wow Michael Thank you so much. Your videos are a breath of fresh air. What an inspiration. I now have something worth while to watch on Utube. I look forward to watching your many episodes over the next few months. A great way for me to explore my Greek heritage at this late stage in my life. Having been brought up in South Africa then lived in Greece in my early 20's moving in and out of India while studying Yoga and Classical Indian music, I always felt that there were many connections and similarities in the ancient cultures of Greece and India. Now im studying Famenco guitar while still keeping up Indian music. i stumbled on this video on Duende, and will definitely be getting the book. I wonder if you are familier with the controversial book Shiva and Dionysus. Thanks again for your, insightful and informative videos. Please keep up the great work you are doing.
I play Flamenco on the guitar as well. Sort of …
there are 222 views with 22 likes after 2 days as I write this @ 2:22 during the video.
anyway, thanks for new video and a book suggestion for the winter.
The Gods are trying to tell us something!
Off topic: I would love to know your perspective on a modern thinker such as Ludwig von Mises, who at least superficially resembles an ancient Greek philosopher in tending to think _axiomatically_ about human nature and human purpose, and yet gives the impression (to me at least) of being much more of a liberal individualist than Plato or Aristotle.
Moderns proceed from entirely different presuppositions on human nature., Mainly, the idea that all behavior is the result of our struggle for survival. It’s a “pushed from behind” kind of thinking. The ancients believes in teleological explanations. That all phenomena, including Man, can also be explained via their “ends,” their end goals as it were.
@@AncientGreeceRevisited I mentioned Mises in particular because he represents the classical liberal's trust in the spontaneous order formed by free markets. Is this particular idea a genuine modern improvement on ancient thought? I think so. While I'm intrigued by your attempt to revive ancient philosophy, I also worry about the potentially oppressive nature of a Platonic-Aristotelian state that concerns itself with your telos and with mine. Let's maintain separation of telos and state.
@@brian423Well, it would concern itself with the telos of Man (as Man), And concerning this, yes, it would include you and I. What many modern philosophers don't understand is - ironically - the power of philosophy itself. That is why, say, the Trial of Socrates, is so often presented as nothing but an example of prejudice over reason. The reason why this event is interpreted like so is the general ignorance about the dangers of philosophy. And it's power (which is to say the same). Philosophers define the reality in which others play in. The background against which human actions occurs.
@@AncientGreeceRevisited Yes, philosophy is powerful, and therefore it's dangerous for the state to have a teleological agenda any more specific than "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as the U.S. Declaration of Independence says. Wouldn't it have been much better for Socrates if his city had, in effect, remained teleologically neutral by granting him freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion (even though, ironically, Socrates himself failed to appreciate the potential benefits thereof)?
@@brian423 Well, the answer to your question can be found in Aristophanes' "The Clouds"
outstanding. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Well its good that you know in this video "where you stand" unlike the last video which had so many errors.
Which feels like when you mention of ancient Greek religion I dont think you are ready for that. But some hints that might help you.
professor and rector Mr. Georgios Babiniotis notes: "Whoever talks about Orthodoxy in the absence of Hellenism, I think is in vain, but whoever talks about Hellenism in the absence of Orthodoxy is doing something worse; it is ugly."
"Saint Justin continued to wear his attire of a philosopher, thus witnessing that there is no contradiction between being a philosopher and a Christian." Which called Socrates and Plato for example Christians before Christ which is why the church has icons of them which most dont know about. Even Alexander the great their were Orthodox icons of him which is considered a demigod in ancient Greek(and Egypt).
Clement of Alexandria, in his work Stromateis, "the Apostle Paul says: "Take also the Greek Bibles, know the Sibyl, who declares one God and the future, and you will find our Lord Jesus Christ written more clearly."
Greece Archbishop Christodoulos said "Early Greek Christians blessed and honored the Ancient Greek temples,... by recycling the materials (stones and dirt) from the Ancient Greek Temples to build Christian temples." & "when our [Ancient Greek] ancestors gave the lights of civilization, they [Europeans] were living up in trees"
"The goal of the Olympians was to prepare and to promote humanity under the unknown God, until the Coming That one."
"The Olympians confessed that they are angels of God, that they have a share only the Good, and prepared the way for the coming of Jesus Christ."
as stated in the book Archives of lost knowledge words of fire. "The Greeks received the laws from Minos long before the appearance of Moses when Zeus appeared on the top of the mountain Idi. These laws were handed over to lithe plates, copies of which are now in the museum of Gortys and the Louvre Museum"
"If an ancient Greek lived in today's times, they would have liked it to the temples dedicated to the Saints of Orthodoxy, not for the worship of the saints, but the worship of the One God. Comparing the current situation with its own, would distinguish a religious one furthermore, because of the churches that were dedicated to Apollo, Athena and the other Olympians, was worshiped One God. Only then did Christ appear not in humanity and for that very reason the Unknown God was worshiped."
theologian, historian, professor, Fr George Metallenos Of the school of Athens mentions in his book "Pagan Hellenism or Greek Orthodoxy?" "That Christianity is a spiritual continuation of Hellenism, in almost everything (terminology, symbols, ritual, etc.) and [then later altered] the Hebrew alleloujah [it is not what most think it is] is (both literally and etymologically) the sequence from Zeus to Jesus"
"The ancient Greeks were not pagans. They did not worship idols, but personified ideas and values, to which, in fact, they had given a high spiritual and ideological content. In fact, they were not, as Xenophanes the Colophonius first put it (in God... magnum), nor polytheists. ... The so-called gods of Olympus were believed to be all children of the one and only god, Zeus, and constituted a kind of numerous Holy Family or eleven (+1) Saints. On the contrary, Christians have at times, wrongly of course, been considered pagans, because of the worship of images."
These are all translated from Greek so this is not alliable in English for the most part.
Nice quotes, but I stand with Heidegger who said that Greek and Christian are like “Wooden Iron,” a contradiction in terms.